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JOHN WICKHAM, Cha~man
FRANK S. COYLE
HENRY E. RAYNOR, Jr.
FREDERICK E. GORDON
JAMES WALL
Southold, N.Y. 11971
MINUTES
January 24, 1977
TELEPHONE
765-1313
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held January 24, 1977 at 7:30 p.m. at the Town Clerk's Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York.
Present were:
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry E. Raynor, Jr., Vice-Chairman
Frank S. Coyle
Absent were:
Frederick E. Gordon - ill
James Wall - unable to attend from Fishers Island
Peter Kreh~ Jr. - the Board reviewed Mr. Kreh's four lot minor
subdivision, all of which have over 40,000 square feet in area.
Covenants and restrictions as to no further subdivision will be
required for the oversized lots as well as a notation on the map
that there will be no further subdivision. The Planning Board
will make a physical inspection of the property when the snow
is gone.
C. E. Allen - the Board reviewed Mr. Allen's four lot minor
subdivision. Covenants and restrictions will be necessary for
no further subdivision and a notation should be placed on the
map to that effect. The Planning Board will require an affidavit
of ownership whenever there is a corporation involved at to the
stockholders and principles to show there is no conflict of
interest. In answer to whether Folly Beach Ltd. had a right-of-way
over the access owned by Peconic Sands, Inc., the answer was in
the affirmative. There is access for lots l, 2 and 3 as it is
laid out on this map. They also have rights to bring water down
from a well approved by the Health Department. They have been
laid out for cluster cesspools. Mr. Wickham asked if they will
continue to use the private road for access to lot #4 and the
answer was in the affirmative. There is a building and shed on
lot #4. Mr. Raynor remarked that lot #4 presently exists on a
filed map.
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Mr. Reese subdivision on Soundview Avenue. It was suggested
that the park and playground be to the rear of the property
rather than on Soundview Avenue which is a heavily travelled area.
Mr. Raynor suggested that it be to the northwest so it could be
joined with the Zebroski property is it is ever subdivided. It
was thought that it would be more trouble if the area remains
here and is fenced as suggested by Mr. Reese. Mr. Raynor mentioned
drainage and recharge facilities. It also might come uuder the
jurisdiction of the Suffolk County Dept. of Planning because the
County Park is across the street. This will have to be checked.
Storm water has to be kept on the land and returned to the ground
on the premises. Mr. Raynor felt if the lots were moved up there
would be a terracing effect.
Eouros subdivision in New Suffolk. Edward Boyd V, Esq. appeared.
Mr. Wickham told Mr. Boyd that the 50 feet should be disposed of
to one of the adjacent property owners. Mr. Boyd will inform the
Kouros'. Five lots constitute a major subdivision. Mr. Boyd said
the roads are already there. Four lots would be extremely large.
He would like the five-lot plan to be adopted. Mr. Wickham said
5% is usually required for park and playground and, perhaps, the
14,000 square feet which is the above-mentioned 50 feet could be
used for that if no one wants to buy it.
Piccione. Mr. William Finn appeared to complain about the
right-of-way location for this minor subdivision. He said it goes
a few feet from his bedroom window. He wanted to know why access
couldn't be obtained from Second Street and there was a question
about the condition of Second Street as access for three more
property owners. It seems it gets flooded when it rains to be
impassible. Mr. Wickham suggested that the principles be contacted
and an extension of time be asked for to straighten this problem
out. If the principles agree, the Planning Board can reconsider
the map. If the Planning Board fails to take action, the map is
considered automatically approved. Mr. Raynor suggested that the
Board ask the principles to pave the extreme east of the driveway
which would give about another 12 feet of area from the Finn house.
Mr. Finn was going to talk to Mr. Rein and inform the Planning
Board of the outcome of the conversation.
Gunther Morchel site plan. Larry Liso appeared.
Mr. Liso said the diagonal parking, as suggested by the Planning
Board, came out further into the street than straight parking.
Fifteen spaces is probably adequate but the slots are only 200
square feet rather than the 350 square feet required by the
ordinance. Low shrubs will be required and the Planning Board
should be notified as to the kind of shrubs that will be put in.
The owner doesn't want to put grass in but leave the concrete
as it is on the Old Main Road. There should be some sort of
barrier to keep people from parking in the front. They may have
to go to the Board of Appeals for a variance on parking. Mr.
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Liso was told to contact the building inspector to find how many
parking spaces he needs for the old building and the total for the
old and the new. If he can't come up with the required number of
parking spaces, he will have to go to the Board of Appeals.
Fischer property. Renee Gendron and Lou Edson appeared.
The on--~y oomment made on this minor subdivision was that the
right-of-way should go to the east thirty feet in the vicinity of
lot #3 or lot
Lawrence Sto~an minor subdivision on the Main Road, Cutchogue.
Mr. Stojan is combining some property to come up with a four-lot
minor subdivision on the Main Road. He is in Phase I of the
Suffolk County Farmland Aquisition program for the property in
the rear. The Planning Board had no objections to this layout.
Mr. Wickham stated that it has come to the attention of the
Planning Board that there are several major additions or new
buildings within the Town that have not come to the Planning Board
for site plan approval. In particular, there is the Haas property
in Peconic; Mattituck Bowling Alleys in Mattituck; MacGuire green-
house in Mattituck which, if the greenhouse were set back from
the road would be an accessory building, but since it is set up
near the road it is obviously for sales purposes and the Planning
Board is concerned about the parking because of the traffic hazard
already in that area; Colonial Corners at Southold; Norkus crystal
factory in Southold. Mr. Wickham requested that the secretary
write a letter to the building inspector with this information.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to recommend waiving the construction requirements
pertaining to depth of curbs in the subdivision known as ,,Or~fo~
View Estates" and to recommend release of the bond based on the
approval of the Highway Superintendent and the Town Engineer.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to recommend a drawing back of the turnaround on
Sleepy Hollow Lane in the subdivision entitled "Sleepy Hollow at
Southold" as requested by the developer in order to comply with
the Southold Town Wetland Ordinance.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
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On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to transmit to the Town Board for their findings
the proposed cluster subdivision of Fellinger-Ihar.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
The Planning Board does not like this particular cluster layout
but feels that a cluster subdivision at this location might have
value for preserving agriculture. This information is to be
transmitted to the Town Board.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the map of the minor
subdivision of Edward Gibbons.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the preliminary mpa of
the subdivision known as "Heritate Harbor".
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to approve the preliminary map dated December 2,
1976, of the subdivision known as "Col. Ted Dowd", ~ubject to
covenants and restrictions being filed as to no further subdivision
and a notation being placed on the final map that no lot will be
further subdivided.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to approve the minor subdivision of D. T. and G.
Smith as amended December 28, 1976, subject to receipt of
recommendations of the Suffolk County Planning Commission,
covenants and restrictions being filed in the Suffolk County
Clerk's Office as to no further subdivision.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
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The Planning Board directed that a letter be written to
the purchasers in the Claussen Construction Compauy minor
subdivision as to their responsibility in the upkeep of the
right-of-way owned by Hale.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to give final approval and authorize signing of
the maps of the minor subdivision of Barbara A. Howard in Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle.
The following letter was directed by the Chairman to be directed
to Supervisor Martocchia.
The Planning Board has found that our secretary, Mrs. Brush,
is entitled to between three and seven days off a month depending
upon her responsibility for night meetings and night hearings.
As a result, she is not in the office to handle the telephone.
We would respectfully request than answering and recording service
be provided for her to speed the work of the Planning Board and
Trustees. Such equipment would be under $100 and would be of
substantial help to all of us.
Mr. Raynor made a motion, seconded by Mr. Coyle and carried
to approve the minutes of the meeting of December 27, 1976.
EliOah's Lane Estates~ Section I. The Joseph Saland office has
been in contact with the office of the Planning Board. They are
desirous of dissolving the corporation after the necessary
improvements have been made in the spring. There was a question
of some water to the west outside of the subdivision, the problem
apparently caused by the installation of the recharge basiu in
Section I. There are two solutions to this situation. Either the
roads and recharge basin has to be dedicated to the Town or a
property owners' association formed to accept title to these items
because the corporation can't be dissolved and leave the ownership
of the improvements in the name of the corporation.
Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Raynor and carried
to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 p.m.
Respectfully s~ubmitted,
Mur~el B~MYsh, Secretary