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EiOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
M[:MBE:RS
,John ~Y,/icl~ham. Chairman
Henry Moisa
Alfred Grebe
~'chibatd Youns
~(~ill~am Unkelbach
M I N'U T~E S
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
June 3. 1965
A regular meeting of the-Southold Town Planning Board was
held at 7:30 P.M;'. Thursday~ June 3~ 1965, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold~ New York.
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman. Henry
-Moisa,i Alfred Grebe, Archibald Young, acting chairman until Mr.
Wickhamwas present~' and William Unkelbach.
Also present: Messrs: Otto Van Tuyl~ Consultant. Howard
Terry, Budding Inspector.
Lefferts~P. Edson, Esq.~ and Mr. Schneider~appearedbefore
the ~oard to request a date .for~a final hearing-on:E~stern Shores,
at-Greenportl Section III. Mr. Yonng~ acting'Chairman~ advised
Mr. Edson that a letter of-approVal ~as needed from Harold Price~
Superin~dent of~Highways~ on .thelayout-of the roads. Also.
the Planning Board had not yet received an estimate for a per-
formance bond fort~e completion of the roads and water mains
in the subdivision. Mr. Young. acting Chairman, further advised
Mr. Ed~en. that they would set~a date for a hearing after Mr.
Wickhamwas present.
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Southold 'l'own/Doarq ~ -2- June 8, 1 ~
'Lefferts P. Edson, Esq., and Mr, Schneider~also appeared
before the Board to obtain preliminary approval of the
subdivision to be known as "Eastern Shores,at Greenport, Section
IV,~ This portion of the subdivision contains approximately
12 acres and is fur~er bounded and described as follows:
All that certain plot, piece or parcel of land, situate~
lying and being near Greenport~ Town of-Southold, County of
Suffolk and State of New York, bounded and described as follows:
BEGISINING at a point at the ordinary high water mark of Long
Island Sound marking division of lands of F.H.S. Land and
Development-Corp., and HJJ~S% Land & Development~Corp; running
thence northerly'and then eaSterlyalong said ordinaryhigh
water mark of'Long Island Sound 2045 feet, more or less, to land
now or formerly of Butt; running thence southerly along said
land of Butt a distance of 320 feet, more or less; running thence
through land of H~'J~S. Land &'Development'Corp. a distance of
450 feet to Sound Drive as shown on Map of Eastern Shores at
Greenport~ Section II; running thence northerly 50 feet, south-
westerly 460 feet, more or less and thence southerly 50 feet, more
or less to the southwesterly corner of Sound-Drive as shown on
said map; running thence Southerlya distance of'206 feet along~the
westerly line of Map of Easter~ Shores at Greenport, Section II,
to land now or formerly of Speeches; running thence along said
land now or formerly of Speeches and land now or formerly of
Morrison in a westerly direction a distance of ~.~8 feet, more or
less, to a concrete monument; running-thencealong said land now or
formerlyof Morrison in a southerly direction a distance of 275
feet, more or less to land of F.'H.S~ Land &Development-Corp;
running thence along said land of F,'HjS. Land & Development'Corp.
in a ~esterly direction a distance of 500 feet, more or less,~ to
the ordinary high watermark of Long Island Sound att he point or
place of beginning.
On motion by Mr. Unkelbac~, seconded by Mr. Moisa, it was
RESOLVED that the subdivision to be known as "Eastern Shores
at Greenport,'.Section IV,, located at Greenport,. containing
approximately 12 acres, oWned and developed by HJJ.~S% Land &
Development'Corp., be ~iven preliminary approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mrj Young, Mr. Grebe, Mr. MoiSa,
Mri Unklebach. -~
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Ju~e 3, 1965~'~
Edward Abitz appeared before the Board to request~a date
for a final hearing on the subdivision, "Mat%~k'Estates,.
M_ri Young ~ acting Chairman, advised him that '~y~Q~ld set
a date for a hearing as soon as possible, but would have to
wait for Mrl Wickham to set a definite date.
Mr. AbitZ also presented the Board with photographs of
the type of entrance he would ~e to have to the subdivision.
He stated that this entrance~would be five feet to six feet
back from the road and requeSted the BOard's opinion on the
matter. Mr. Young advisedMr. Abitz, thata WOod entrance
would be more acceptable than e~be~y shrubbery. There is
a chance that the shrubbery wouid become overgrown and obstruct
vision of the traffic. Mr. ~bitz was also advised that ~n
entrance such as he proposed, would have to be set back 35 feet
from the highway line/
(Mr. John Wickham%Rs present at the meeting at 8:20
and presided as Chairman.)
On motion by Mr,. Moisa, seconded byMr. Grebe~ it was
RESOLVED that-the Southold Town Planning Board set 7:30 PjM~,
Tuesday, June 29, 1965, at the Town Office, Main Road,~Southold,
New York, as time and place of hearing upon~question of approval'
of the following plat:
1. Plat'of property owned by HJJ.~S~' Land &'Development
Corp.~ and Ji'MjS¥ Land & Development'Corp.~ entitled Eastern
Shores at Greenport, Section III, consisting of a parcel of
land of 7.96 acres,' situated at Greenport, in the Town of
Southold, Suffolk County~ New York, and more particularly
bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at-a point on the northerly line of a proposed
50 foot highway to be known as "Homestead Way"~ at the south-
easterly corner of Lot 89 as shown on "Map of Eastern Shores,
Section 2", from said point or'beginning running the following
courses: (i) N. 20~ 57" 50" W.-650.0 feet; thence (2) N. 8° 53'
10" W~-284.11 feet;' thence (3) N. 22° 40'i§0" E.-55.90 feet;
thence (4] N. 7° 21' 00" W.-165.30 f~et; thence (5) N. 86° 07'
00" E.-103.0 feet; thence (6) N. 72~ 31" 40" E.-109.81 feet;
thence (7) S. '20° 57'- 50" E,-142.02 feet; thence (8] S. 4°
16' '20" E.-52.20 feet; thence (9) S. 20° 57' 50" E.-950.0 feet
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thence (10) S. 69° 02' 10" Wi-130.0 feet; thence (11) N. 20
57' 50" W.-5010 feet; thence (12) S. 69° 02~ 10" W*~200.0 feet
to the point of beginning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mrl Wickham~ Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
Southold TownPlanning B~d =4-
J~ne _3..,
On motion by M_v. Grebe,' seconded by M~ Unkelbach~ it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set~7:30 P.M.s.
Tuesday, June 29~ 1965~ at'the Town Office, ~4ain.Road, Southold~
New York, as time and place of hearing upo~ question of:approval
of the following plat:
Plat;of property-ownedby M~ttituck'Estates~ Inc.~
entitledMattituck Estates, atMattituck, consisting of a
parcel of land of 42.8 acres, situated at Mattituck,. in the
Town of Sou~hold,. Suffolk'County.~ New York, and.more ~articularly
bounded and d~scribed as follows:
Beginning at a granite monnment set on the southerly line
of the Main Road at the northwest corner~of the premises herein
described and adjoining land of. Joseph Miska on thewest; running
thence along the southerly line of the Main-Road N. 88~ 08'~ 20"
E.-748.67 feet to a granite monument; thence cont'~nuin~ N.~89~
03' 00" E.-86 feet to land of Elizabeth M. Tuthill; running thence
albng said land of~Tuthill t~o courses and distances as follows:
(1) S. 1° 34' 30" W.-200.0 feet, thence ~2) N. 89~ 03"E.-125.0
feet to land of'Filia; running thence along said ~andlof Filla
S. 1° 34' 30"~W.-904.70 feet to a gutter; running thence again ~long
land 'of~Filla through said gutter N. 50° 40~ 10" E.-452.34 feet
to land of~C.B.' ~m~hill;running thence ~lon9 said land of Tuthill
S. 87°~-26® 30'L E.-288.74 feet to a-pipe and land formerly of
Leicht, now of'Sidor; running thence along said land of~Sidor
S. 7° 43' 50" W.-1125.34 feet~to the northerly line of New Suffolk
Avenue; ~unning thence along the northerly line~-of~NewSuffolk
Avenue N. 82~ 53~ 50" Wi-550.0 feet to other~land of. Metot; running
thence along said land of Melotthree courses and distances as
follows: (1) N. 7~'43' 50" E~-500.0 feet; thence ~2) N~ 82~ 53'
50" W. L350.0 feet~' thence.southwesterly about 25~ feet to a
monument onthe northwest corner of land of~Russel D. Tuthill;
running thence at,rig said land of~Tuthill S. 10~ 49' E.--262~1 feet
to the northerlyline of NewSuffolk~Avenue; running thence N. 82°
53~'~50" W.- along the northerly line or'New'Suffolk'Avenue 28.5.0
fe~t to'land of~Miska; running thence along~said land of~Miska
eight courses and distances as follows: (1) N. 11° 00~E.--160.~0
feet~' thence (2) N. 3° 54"-W.-104~35 feet, thence"~3) N~ 79° 29
50" W~240j'0 feet, thence ~) Ni /6o 37~ 50" E.-545.49 feet; thence
(5)~ Ni 5° 2~' 40" E~-410.42 feet~' ~thenCe ~6) S. 89° 31~ 20"
244.89 fee~ thence (7) N. 6~ 37''~ 10" Ei-394.51 fe~t, thence
N~ 3~ 30' ~0'~ E.-134.0 feet {o the monument and Place of beginning.
Vote of the Board: AyeS:-Mr. Wickham~ Mr~ Moisa, Mr. Grebe~
Mr. Young.~i and Mr. Unkelbach.
~ 'Southold Town Planning BO~d -5- June 3. 196b~
Bernard and Theodore Kaplan appeared before the Board to
discuss the proposed subdivision to be known as "Dawn Estates",
located at Greenport, in 'the Townof-Southold, Suffolk'iCounty,
New York,~owned and developed byDawnEstates Builders'Corp.
This sub,vision will contain approximately 28 lots. Mr.
Kaplan was advised that the Board would wait until they had a
report from Mr. Young on the meeting with the Town Trustees.
This meeting dealt with the creation ofman made carols , s~ch
as proposed in the subdivision "Dawn Estates". It was felt
that themeeting wither he trustees should not be discussed with
the applicants.. Mri~ Wickhamadvised the applicants that the
Planning Board would try to have an answer, for them at their
next mee~:ing.
Mr. Wickham felt that.the lots in the subdivision were
too small, however, Mr. Kaplan fettthatthere was no real
basis to determine whether lots were too small or'too large.
He also felt that there are many people who request smaller
lots. Mrl Young advised thatthe water tablewas a serious
question and should be given very serious consideration. Mr.
Kaplan didn't feel that the proposed'canal in the subdivision
would harm the-water table,] in v~ew of the fact that the
subdivision would have village~ater.
Mr. Wickham further advised thatthere are ~les~and
regulations for the provision of a park-and playground area
in the subdivision. He also.'~ormedMr. Kaplan that said
park and playground area would have tobe for the public and
not just for t~e lotowners in the subdivision.
Lefferts P. Edson. Esq..,. and Mr. and Mrs. Clayton-Clarke
nextappeared bebre the Board to discuss the following Change
of zone application of Mr. amd Mrs. Clarke.
Ail thatcertain tract or parcel of land situated
at Peconic. in the Town of Southold, Suffolk~County, New
York~ and more particularly boundedand described as follows:
Beginning at a monument on the northerly-line of-North Road
marking-the division of land of Clayton H. and Rose M. Clarke,
and the County of-Suffolk; running thence north 45° 37' 00"
W. along said~division line a distance of 200 feet~ running
thence through land of'Clayton Hi Clarke and Rose M.~ Clarke
south 59' 27'-30" W.- a distance of 445.35 feet more or less
to land now or formerly of Laura and Kenneth Case; Runing thence
along said last mentioned land south 47~ 10~ 00" E.- a distance
of 100 feet more or less to land now or formerly of Belinski;
running thence along said last mentioned land two courses as
~ Southold Town Planning Bo~ -6- June 3., 1965~J
follows: 1. North 51e 58~ 00" E. a di
40° 03' 00" E.-- a distance
no~erly line of North Road;
erly line of the North Road
445~35 feet to the monument at
ce of 16.20 feet. 2. South
~ a~monument on the said
along the said north-
?30" E.- a distance of
'beginning.
Mr. Edson stated that the applicants were not asking for the
whole farm to be changed 'to business. They only-wanted a small
parcel of the farm, in order, to conduct their'business, namely
an antique shop. Mr. Edson also stated that 'to the east of the
property in question is KaelinJ-s Farm Machinery, D0roski'ls and
Myers FactorY"' all zoned business. The propertyofCharles
Hubbard~~ non-donforming business, is across the street from the
property in question. The applicants were advised that the
Planning Board was not willing to goalong with this change of
zone. Such a change in this particular location would constitute
spot zoning. This would be a small business district in the
middle of a residential section. The Planning Board also pointed
out that~County-Route 27A was to be a high-speed highway and
should not have small businesses on the route.
Lefferts P. Edson appeared before the Board to discuss the
following change of zone application.
The petition of:Vitaliano Caroleo and others for a change
of zone from -A,, Residential and Agricultural District to "B=2"
Business District on certain real property situated ab~Cutchogue,
in the Townof:Southold, Suffolk-County, New York, a~d more
particularly bounded and described as follows:
Beginning at a monument on the southerlyline of Middle Road
marking the division of lands of the ~pplicants herein and L.
Glover; running thence along lands of:the saidL.-Glover.tWo courses
as follows.: 1. south 44~' 56~ 00" E.- a distance of 439~i62 feet to
a monument. 2. south 67~ 37" 50" W.- a distance of 402%~84 feet to
the easterly line of'Co,es Lane; runn~_~g thence'along the said
easterly line Of'Coxes'Lane north 44e 05'~ 50" W.- a distance of
$50.02 feet to the southerly end of ~ curve connecting the easterly
line of-Coxes Lane with the southerly iine' of:Middle Road; running
thence along the arc of a curve to the right~ the radius of Which
is 58.98 feet a distance of 1115.01 feet; running thenCe along the
southerly lihe of'Middle'Road north 67~ 37' 50" E.- a'dist~3~ce of
308.92 feet~to the monument~at the poi~t of'beginning, containing
3.682 acres~
~ Southold Town-Planning B~drd -7- June 3, 196~~
The Planning Board advised Mr. Edson that the change of
zone would also constitute spot moning. This change of zone
is also on the County Route 27A#. which the'~Planning Board
feels should be maintained as a high-speed highway. Mr. Edson
requested that the Planning Board hold-up their recommendation
on this application until they receive a report from theCounty
on a study being made of'County Route 27A.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it~was
RESOLVED thatLawrence Tuthill, professional engineer,
be authorized to make an estimate for a performance bond for
the completion of the roads and water mains in the subdivision
-to ~e known as Eastern Shores at Greenport, Section III. There
shall be a total for the completion of the roads, and a total
for the water,mains, and the grand total.
Vote of th~ Board: Ayes:- Mr. Wickham,. Mr~ Moisa, Mr. Grebe,'
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition or'Anna C. Hansen, fora change of'zone
from "A" Residential and Agricultural DiStrictto "B-2"
Business~Dis~t~ict on certain real property.-situated at
Mattituck, ~in the Town of Southold~Suffolk~CounJty,~ New York~,
with the instructions-to prepare an official report defining
the conditions therein. This property~sbounded and described
as follows:
Beginning at a monument on the horsefly side or'Mill Road
at the southeast corner of the premises described adjoining land
of'Krupski on the east; running thence along said Mill Roadfive
courses and distances as follows: (1) S. 68° 14' 50"~W.-304.46
feet; (2) S.~83" 31' 10" W.-146.16 feet; (3) N.~57 48' 50~'. W.-
252176 fee~; (~)~ N. 49* 25' 30" ~.-127.37 feet~ (5)' N. 77 34'
50" W.-129,04 feet to 6ther land of the petitioner zoned "~B";
running thence along said "B" zone in a northerly direction about
400 feet; thence westerly about 300 feet to Mattituck-Creek;
running thence aiong Mattituck Creek northerly thence northeasterly
to the center of Sebastian~'s Gutter; thence southeasterl~along
the center'of~Sebastian~s ~utter to a gutter~running in a north-
easterly direction; thence along the center ofsaid gutter to
land of Krupski; running thence along said land of Krupski four
courses and distances as follows: (1) N. 80° 52~ 40" E.-88.0 feet;
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(2) N. 77° 41' 20" E.~410.57 feet;. (3) ~. 12° 05' 1.0" E.-908.45
feet; (4)"S. 12° 50" 10" E.-241~0 feet to th'~ ~oint-~or place
of beginning.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr~ Young, it was
~ RESOLVED that~the Southold Town Plan~ning Board does not
favorably recommend to the Town Board the change ~of zone from
"A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B~2" Business
District on the property of Anna C. Hansen as described above.
The Planning Board fe~ls that the property in question is
too large of an area to be zoned for business.
Vote of the Board~ Ayes:- Mr. Wickham,~ Mr~ Moisa~ Mr, Grebe,.
Mr. Young, and MrjUnkelbach.
The Planning Board again, took up the matter'of'the petition
of H.R. Reeve &'Sons, Inc., for a change of zone from "A"
Residential and Agricultural District to "B-2" BusinessDistrict,
on certain real property situated at Mattituck,. in the Town of
Southold~ Suffolk~County~ New York, and more particularly bounded
and described as follows:
Beginning at a concrete monument on the westerly side of
WickhamAvenue at the northeasterly comner of land of'Elmer
Ruland; running thence S. 47° 38'~ W.~236 feet along said land of
Ruland to a concrete monumen~ thence-S. 39' 07a 20'' E.-67.52
feet along said landof'Ruland; thence along l'and formerly of Tyler
now: of zimnoski s. 43° 41~ 20" E.-48 feet to other land of applicant
zone "B" Bus,ness; the'nce-'southwesterly along said "B" ~Business
zone about 280 feet to the~easterly linelof'Maiden~Lane, said
pointt~ing 180 feet northerly fromMiddle Road'Extension; running
thence along theleasterly line of Maiden'Lane N. 48' 57~' 30" W.-
315feet~ mo=e or less to Mattituck~Creek; running ~hen-~e in a
northerly thence in~'~aneasterlydirection along Mattituck Creek
to landor'Walter Williams; thence running S. 44° 'll'*~Ei- along
said land ~flWilliams 219~61 feet more or less; ~thence again
running along land of Williams N. 47° 38~ E.-101.34 feet to the
westerly line of'Wickham'-Avenue; running'thence S. 39° 07~ 20"
E.-49.58 feetalong the westerly side of-Wickham Aven~e to the
point or place of'beginning.
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June 3.~ 19~
On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young, it was
RESOLVED that the Planning Board hold-up their recommendation
on the property of H.R. Reeve & Sons, Inc.~ until the Southold
Town Board takes action of the petition of~Vina Baker and George
Van Buren, for a change of zone from"A" Residential and Agricultural
District to "B'2" Business'District. This property is.in the
same vicinity as the property of H.R.' Reeve-~ Sons, Inc.
Vote of'the Board: Ayes:-Mr.---Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board again took'up the matter of the ~e~%~e~
petition of William J. Pollert for a change of zone from'"A''
Residential and Agricultural District to "B--2" Business~District,
on certain real property situated at Greenport, in the Town of
Southold, Suffolk County,' New York, and more particularly'bounded
and described as follows:
Beginning at a point.on the westerly line of'Manhanset
Avenue where the same is intersected by the northerly i/ne of
Champlin Place and thence running along said northerly line of
Champlin Place, south 58° 35~ 20" west, 489.90 feet to a point~
running thence north 31"-'24~'"'40'' west, 832.03 feet to a point on the
southerly line of the N~rth"lRoad; thence along the southerly line
of North Road two courses, as follows: ~) north 66° 36~40" east,
291~24 feet, and (2) north 65~ 23'-50" east~ 228.44-feet; thence
abng land now or formerly of~enze,, two coursesl as follows:o
1) south 22~ 30' 10" east, 191.59 feet, and [2) north 66 36~
40" east, 1'~.14 feet to the westerly li~e of'Manhanset ~venue;
thence along said line~ south 20~. 12' 30" east, 569.68 feet to
the point or place of beginning.
On motion byMr. Wickham, seconded by'Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board doe"s not
favorably-recommend to the Town. BOard the change of zone'from
"A" Residential and Agzicultural DistIict to "B-2" Business
Districton the property of Wiliiam J.. Pollert~as described
above.
It is the opinion of the Plann/ng Board that a business
zone of this size and in this particular vicinity doesn~'t
appear to be needed at this time.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young~' and Mr. Unkelbach-
South01d Town Planning Bd~d -10- June 3~ 19~~
A letter'was sent to H~rmon F. Bishop, commissioner, Depart-
ment of Public'Works,.Cou~ty ofSuffolk, r~questing a copy of
the plans for the future extension of C0unty Route 27~, as soon
as they are available~
Howard Terry, Building Inspector, reportedthat hehad
talked to Mr. Williamson, and he had given his approval on
the subdivision to be known as~"Blue Horizons". This.subdivision
had been approved subject to a letter from Mr~ Williamson. The
Chairman is tobe notified when the Town Board accepts the
performance bond so that he may sign %he final maps.
On motion by Mr. Grebe, seconded by Mr. Young, it-was
RESOLVED that the minutes ofthe Southold Town Planning
Board dated May 11,. 1965, be approved as submitted.
Vote of the'Board: Ayes:-Flr~ Wickham, Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,~
Mr. Young, and bir~Unkelbach.
Mr. Young.reported on his meeting with the Town Trustees,
Town AttorneyRobert Tasker,' Esq., and Supervisor Albertson~
At the meeting t~e creation of man-made canals was discussed.
Mr~ Young reported that Robert Tasker, Esq. informed them that
a man can dig in his back yard and create a canal if he wants
to. The Planning Board then held more disuussion on this
particular subject.
Mr. Young also reported thatthere should be an exchange
of minutes between the Town Board,' Board of-Appeals, Planning
Board and Town Trustees.
A letter was sent to'Brookhaven Town Planning Board and
Southampton Town Planning Board asking~ them what their policy
has been in conmection with the creation of~man-made canals.
A letter was written to Bernard and Theodore Kaplan in
regard to the proposed subdivision "Dawn Estatest Section I~'
Theywere advised that the Pllanning Board would have a more
definite answer for them at-their'meeting in July. They will
be notified of the exact date.
Southold TOwn Planning Bo~d -11- June 35 19~~
The Southold TownPtan~ing Board will hold an executive
meeting on June 22, 1965,. at'the Town Office,~ MainRoad~ SouthO~d,
New York, at 7:30
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
will be held at ~7:30 PjM., Tuesday, June 29~ 1965, at the Town
Office, Main Road, SouthoId, New York.
Meeting adjourned at 11:05 Pa'M%
RESPECTFULLY 'SUBMITTED,
Barbara C~ Dittmann~ Secretary
~JOHN' WICKS%M,~ CHAIR/~AN