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SIDUTHE)LD, L. i., N. Y.
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John V/ickham, Chairman
H~nry Mois~
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Youns
%V/il Ha m U nkelbach
MINUTES
SOUTH~ TOWN PLANNING BOARD
June 29~. 1965
A regular meeting of the Southold Town-Planning Board
was held on Tuesday, June 29,, 1965~ 7:30 P.'M.-~ at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold~ New YOrk.
There were present: Messrs: John Wickham,.Chairman~ Henry
Moisa~ Alfred Grebe~ Archibald Young~' William Unkelbach.
There were also present: Messrs: Howard Te~7~y~ Building
Inspector; Ro~dVan Tuyi and. Otto Van Tuyl, Consultants, Larry
Tuthill, Professional Engineer~
PUBLIC REARING: Upon question ofapproval of'the following
plat of property:
1. Plat of property owned by HjJ.Sj. Land &.Development
-Corp.~- and J.I~.'S-l-Landand Development Corp., entitled Eastern
Shores at Greenport~ Section' III, at Greenport,. consisting of
a parcel of land of 7.96 acres, Situated at Greenport~ in the
Town of-Southold~ Suffolk~County, New ~ork~ and more particularly
boundedand described as follows:
Southold Town Planning Boa~ ~- June 29, 196~_j
BEGINNING at a point on the northerly line of a proposed
50 foot highway to be known as "homestead Way",' at the south-
easterly corner of'~Lot 89 as shown on "Map of Eastern Shores,
Section II", from said point of beginning running the following
courses: (1) N. 20° 57' 50" W.- 650.0 feet; thence (2) N. 8°
53~' 10" W.-284.11 'feet~i thence (3) N. 22° 40' 50" E.-55.90 feet;
thence (4) N. 7° 21' 00" W.-165.30 feet~' thence (5) N. 86~ 07'
00" E.-103.0 fe'~t; thence (6') N' 72~ 31' 40" E.-109/81 feet;
thence ~(7) S. 20~ 57' 50" E.--142.02'"fee~; thence (8) S.
16' 20" E.-52.20"fee%; thence :(9)S. 20~ 57' 50" E.-950.0'
feet; thence ~(10) S. 69~ 02' 10" W.-130~0 feet; thence
N. 20° 57' 50" W.-50.0 'keet'} thence (I2) S. 69~ 02''10" W.-
200.0 feet to the point of beginning.
The Chairman read the legal notice ofhearing and the
affidavit-attesting to the publication of the legal notice.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present'who wishes to speak
in opposition to this subdivision?
(There was~no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is thereaanyone present who wish~s to be heard
in favor of this subdivision to. be known 'as "Eastern~ Shores at
Greenport, Section III.~" ?
LEFFERTS PJ EDSON;' ESQ.~: We ask-that the Board give favorable
consideration~to the ~al approval of this subdivision, subject
to the signing of the pe~f0rm~nce bondl
THE CHAIRMAN: There are a couple or'other things that need
to be ~leared up. First, What.about the water? Do you want to
submit to the Town Board a contract with the village of Greesport?
Also there is the park and Playground provision. If you recall,
when you gqt-approv~l of!SectiOn II, you gave us a letter of intent
and the time is getting closer when we feel that the property
should be dedicated to the Town..Now, I am not sure just how to
go about this, but something should be donel
~(Lefferts P. Edson, Esq. advised the Board that he would
provide the documents for the installation of the water'mains.
He further~ advised the Board that after'Eastern~shore, Inc. held
a meeting and decided upon the definite land to be dedicated to
the Town~ he would prepare the necessary papers for said dedication
of land tothe ~own of~Southold.)
Before Eastern Shores, Section III, may receive final
aDproval, the Planning Board must receive the performance
bond for the roads, performance bond for the watermains~ or
a contractwith the Village of~Greenporr, 'legal document
Southold Town Planning Boa%~ -3- June 29, 196~
dedicating land to the Town of~SouthOld for park and playground
~oses, and a copy of the permit to connect the 'road in the
subdivision to the'County Highway.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there an'
wi{h this subdivision?
(There was no response.)
THE ~HAIRMAN: If there is
hearing at this time and the Be
later this evening.
q.uesti
PUBLIC P~.ARING: Upon/~e~
plat of property:
2. ~lat of'property owned
Mattituck Estates, a~Mattituck
of 4218 acres, situated at-Matt
Suffolk Coutny, New York, and ~
described as follows:
BEGINNING at a granite mo~
the Main Road at the northwest
described and adjoining land o~
thence along the southerly line
E.-748.67 feet to a granite mot
03' 00" E.- 86 feet to land of~
along Said land of Tuthill two
(1) S. 1: 34' 30" W~-200~0 feel
feet to ~an~ of Filla; running1
1~ 34' 30" W.-904.70 feet to a
1Rnd bf~Filla through sai~ gutt~
to land of~CjB,~ Tuthill; runni~
-S. 87~ 26" 30" E.-288.74 feet ~
Leich~, n~w of~Sidor;~unning
~$. 7: ~3' 50" W.-1125.34 feet
SuffOlk Avenue; running thence
Suffolk~Avenue N. 82:53~'- 50" 1
Melot; running thenc~ albng sa
other questions in connection
othing fu~'~$a~ier, I will close the
rd will take action on this subdivieion
n
~ of !approval of the following
by Mattituck Estates, Inc., entitled
~ consisting of a parcel of land
ituck, in the ~own of!Southold,
ore particularly bounded and
ument set'-on the southerly line of
corner or'the premises herein
Joseph Miska on the west, running
of the Main. Road N. 88:08~ 2'0"
ument; thence continuing N.~89:
Elizabeth M. Tuthilt; running thence
courses and distances as folloW~:
., thence ~) N. 89:03~ E.-125.0
~ence along said land 0f'Filla, S.
gutter; running thence again along
~r N. 50:40~ 10" E.452.34 feet
~g thenc~ albng said land of-Tuthill
~o a pipe and land formerly of
hence along said land of~Sidor
~o the northerly line of'New
along the northerly line cf'New
;.-550.0 feet to other land of
id land of~Melot~three courses and
distances as follows: (1) N. 7 43' 50" E.-500.0 feet., thence
(2) N. 82' 53' 50"'W,-35010 fe'~t; ~hence southwesterly'about 250
feet to a'monUment set-on the northwest corner of land of Russel
D. Tuthill; running thence along said land of Tuthill S. 10:49~
E.-262.1 feet to the northerly line of~qew Suffolk Avenue; ~unning
thence N. 82:53~' 50" Wi-along the northerly line of New Suffolk
Avenue 28510' fee~ to land of Miska; running~hence along said land
Southold Town. Planning B~a~rd
-4-
June 29, ' 1 g6~
of Miska eight courses and distances as follows: (1) N. 11°
0~0'~ E.-160.0 feet~ thence-(2) N. 3° 54' W2-104.35 feet thence
(3) N.-79~ 29' 50"' W.-240,0 feet~~ ~hen~e (4) N. 6° 37' 50"
E~-545-~49"fee~,' thence (5) N. 5° ~24' 40" E.-410.42~ fe~t; thence
(6) S. 89~ 31' 20" Wi-244.89 fe~t, -~'thence ~) N.~ ~ 3~~ i!m~
E.-394.51-~fee't, thence i(8) N. 3~ 30~ 4'0"'E.-134.0 f~eet-to the
me~em~ monument-and place of beginning.
The Chairman read the legal notice of hearing and the
affidavit attesting to its publication in the official news-
paper~ the Town.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to speak
in opposition to this subdivision?
Cj EDWARD NELSON: (owns propertyin New Jersey and in
Mattituck, Long'Island). I have property on the other side
or,New Suffolk'Avenue, next to land ofRussell Tuthill. I
belisve that there is a culvet that drains under'New Suffolk
Avenue. This culvet allows the water to drain by my property.
I am here to ask questions. What is 'the intention of the
real estate developer in reference to this culvet? I realize
that~they have already made improvements on this land. There
is one house already constructed and there is another house
under construction. What I would like to know, is there
going 'to ~e any change in the present arrangement for drainage?
MR,~ UNKELBACH: Do you face on Deep Hole'Creek~ south or
north of'New Suffolk~Avenue2
EDWARD ~ELSON: South, nextto Russell Tuthill.
MR.' UNKELBACH: You are aware that we demand that all surface
water be returned to the ground.
C,' EDWARD NELSON: There are constructed basins that are~ on
the road. Now, on thenorth side of the road, this ~ water
runs under'a culvet, adjoining land where I am. ~'want~to know
if there is going to be any change in the water pattern when
this development is opened. ~mother thing I~ish to state, it
was.-necessary for me to leave my job at 1:00 this afternoon
to attend this meeting. Now, I would like to know what'the
intentions are as far'as the water drainage is concerned.
THE CHAIRMAN: We cannot advise you what their intentions
are. There is no one here to speak for or representing
Mattit~ckEstates.
Southold Town Planning B~d
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June 29~
Cj EDWARD'NELSON: I willreverse my statement then. I
am launching a formal complaint-on the negligence on the part
of-these developers to show up and answer questions of adjoining
property owners.
THECHAIRMAN: Anyone elsewish to be heard, in opposition
to this application for a subdivision?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present-who wishes to be
heard in favor of this subdivision to be known as "Mattituck
Estates"?
'~There was no responsel)
THE.CHAIRMAN: Hearing none, I will recess this hearing
until the next'meeting of the'Southold Town Planning Board.
:(C. Edward Nelson gave his name and Long'Is~nd Address
and New Jersey address to the secretary so that he may be
notified~of the next meeting of the Southold Town Planning
Board.)
Lefferts P. Edson appeared before the Board with Vitaliano
Caroleo to discuss his proposed change of zone from "A"
Residential and Agricultural District to "B~2" Business
District~on p~operty located at~Cutchogue~ This property
is bounded and described as follows:
All that~ certain plot, piece or parcel of land situate
lying and being in the Town of'Southold, at~Cutchogue~ County
of'Suffolk'and State of New York, bounded and described as
follows: BEGINNING at a monument on the southerly line of
Middle Road marking the division of lands or,the applicants herein
and L. Glover; running thence along lands of the said L. Glover
two courses as follows: t. south 44° 56' 00" E.- a distance
of 439.62 feet to a monu~nt. 2o south 67° 37~ 50" Wi- a distance
of 402.84 feet to the easterly line of~Coxes Lane; Running thence
along the said easterly line of Coxes Lane north 44~ 05~50''
W.- a distance of 350.02 feet to the southerly end
curve connecting the easterly line of-Coxes Lane with th~
southerly ~e of'Middle Road; running thence along the arc of
a curve to the right'kav the radius of which is 58.98 feet
a distance of 115.01 feet; running thence along the southerly
line of MiddlerRoad ,north 67~ 37' 50" E.-a distance of 308.92
feet to the monument at the point of beginning, containing 3.682 acres
Southold Town Planning Boated -6 .... June 29, 196b~
The Chairman again advised Mrl Edson and Mr. CarOleo that
the Planning Board was not-willing to go along with this change
of zone, in view of the fact' that it was planned to maintain
County Route 27A as a high spDed highway, with a limited number
of businesses and access onto the highway.
Wiiliam'Wickham, Esq. appeared before the Board to inquire
if anyfurther action had been taken on the property or,Martin
Nelson for a.change of zone in GreenPort. Mr..~ Wickham was
advised that no formal action was taken on this proposition, it
had only been generally.approved by'the Planning Board.
William Wickham~Esq. also wished to discuss the property of
Anna Hansen~ located at~Mattituck. Mr. Wickhamwanted to know
if the Planning Board would looknDre favorably upon changing
to business a smaIler parcel of land than'was previously requested.
The Chairman advised Mr. Wickham that the Board would like to
see some kind of plan as to what-would be done with .the property.
However,-Mr. Wickham advised the Board that' Mrs. Hansen requested
the proPerty.changed to business property~ in order 'to sell it.
Mr. Wickham said that he would file another ~application for'the
land of~nna Hansen, however, he would request-a smaller parcel
of land to be zoned to business district.
On motion by Mr. Moisa, seconded by'Mr. Young, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend
to the Southold Town Board a performance bond of~$12,000.00
for the~comPletion of the roads and the watermains in the
subdivision to be known asEastern Shores at Greenpert, Section
~II, Greenport~ New York, Owned and developed by'H."JJS%' Land
and.Develo~ment~C0rp., and J~M.'S~ Landand Development~Corp.
Vote?f the Board:Ayes:- Mr. Wickh~m, Mr. Moisa,. Mr. Grebe,
Mr, Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
On motion by Mr. WiCkham,. seconded by'Mr'. Grebe, itw~as
RESOLVED: WHEREAS-~ H.'JJS. Land &~-DevekPment~Corp'.,
and j~M.-S~ Land and DeveloPment~Corp~, haspetitionedthe'~S°uth~d
Town Planning Board .for final approval of~their~platknown as
"Eastern~Shores at Greenport, Section III", atGreenport, New
York, and
W~M. REAS the Superintendent ofHighways of~the Town of
Southoldhas inspected the map and approves the highway layout
or'the roads to be constructed, and his report is hereby approved
by-the Planning Board,~ and
South'old Town Planning B~d
June 29,.' 19~/
WHEREAS the Southold Town Planning Board pursuant to due
notice thereof, held a public hearing on the maWr'of approval
of the plat at-which time all interested persons were given an
opportUnity to be heard, and
W-~REAS the subdividers have agreed to submit to the
Planning Board legal documents .for the ~edication' of land
to the Town of'Southold~ for the purposeo~ park and play-
ground area, and
.... -£W~_.~REAS-the'~signing of the final maps by the Chairman
of the Southold Town Planning Board is waive~ un%il s~ch time
as a performance bond is posted for the ro~~e~ond
is accepted by the Southold Town Board;
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the subdivision to be
known as EasternShores at Greenport, Section III, owned and
developed by HjJ~Sj Land &'Development~Corp.,' and J,-ML'S~ Land
&Development-Corp. be approved, subjectto the following
conditions:
1.. A copy of a contract'~ with the Village of Greenport
for the installation of the water mains.
2. A copy of the permit from the'County for'permission 'to
connect the road in the subdivision to the County'Road.
3. The presentation of a legal document dedicating land
to the Town of'Southold for park and playground area as required
in the rules and regulations for the subdivis&on or'land.
4. The posting of a performance bond for the installation
of the roads and watermains in the subdivision, and its acceptance
by the Southold Town Board,-
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Wickham, FL~.i Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Mr. Young, and Mr~ Unkelbach.
The Planning Board received from the Town Board the
original petition of ~Katherine J. Schafer, for 'a change of
zone from "A" Residential and Agriculturai District to "B'2"
Business Distmict with the instructions to prepare an official
report defining the conditions described therein. This change
of zone is for certain real property situated a~' East Marion,
in the Town of'Southold,. Suffolk. Coutny, New York, and more
particularly bounded and described as follows:
Southold Town.Planning Boa~
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June 29, 1965
Beginning'ata monument on the northerly line of Main Road
at the southwest corner oflandnow or formerly of~Cowan; thence
N. 9°~ 27' 00" W~-124.'20 feet; thence N. '10°-01~ 00" W.-60.00
feet~ more. or less; thence N. 78° 47' 20" ~.- a distance of
200.00 feet, more or less, to a ~onu~ent; thence S. 12~ 29' 50"
E.-159.80 feet to 'the said northerly line of'Main Road;
t~ence'S. 83~ 41' 00" W~-100.55 feet; thence S. 88° 03'
W.-92.00 fee~ to~the point-or place ofbeginning, dontaining
3/4 acres, more o~ less.
On motion by'Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
'RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board does not
favorablyrecommend to the Town Board the change of zone from
"A" Residential andAgricultural District to"B--2" Business'District
on the property of-Katherine J% Schafer, as described above.
The Planning Board points out thatthe proposed changeof
zone would constitute spot'zoning, since there are no other
business districts in the immediate vicinity. The Planning
Board further points outthattheproperty in question is
directional across from a church.
Vot~6f the Board~Ayes:-Mr' Wickham, Mr. Moisa~ Mr. Grebe,
Mr, Young,. and Mr. Unkelbach.
The Planning Board briefly discussed the change of zone
application of'Hl'R.' Reeve &~SON, for a change of zone from
"A" Residentialand'AgriculturaI District to '~-2" Business
District on property situated, at Mattituck on the~Westerly
side of'Wickham Avenue. The Rlanning Board agreed to write
Mr' Reeve a letter~'requesting his presence at the next
planning Board meeting so that theymay discuss the propoSed
change of zone with him.
On motion by Mr~ Grebe,' seconded'.by~Mrl Moisa, it-was
RESOLVED that theminutes ofthe Southold Town Planning
Boa~d'dated June 3~ 1965, be approved as submitted.
~ Vote of'the Board: Ayes:-Mr. Wickham,~ Mr. Moisa, Mr. Grebe,
Young, and Mr. Unkelbach.
$outhold Town Planning Bo~-d -9- June 29, 196~
The ne~t-meeting of the'Southold Town Planning Board will
be held at '7~0 P.'M~',' Tuesday,' July'20, 1965, at t=he Town Officg,
Main Road, SoUthold, New York.
Me~'ting adjourned at 9~50 P.~M.
Respectfully -submitted,
Barbara C. Dittmann~ Secretary
Southold Town. Planning Board