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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-03/06/1978P ~D JOHN WICKHAM, Chaffman FRANK S. COYLE HENRY E. RAYNOR, Jr. FREDERICK E. GORDON JAMES WALL Southold, N.Y. 11971 TELEPHONE 765- 1938 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held on Monday, March 6, 1978 at 7:30 p.m. at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Present were: John Wickham, Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr., Vice-Chairman Frank S. Coyle Frederick E. Gordon James Wall Arthur and Millicent Gossner, League of Women Voters Peter Campbell, Suffolk Times Frances Wegner, L. I. Traveler-Watchman Ruth Pachman, Suffolk Life 7:30 p.m. Adjourned public hearing of Frank Murphy minor subdivision. Mr. Murphy attended. Mr. Wickham: The public hearing was held February 14th and there was no one here representing the developer or his attorney. In a minor subdivision we normally have covenants that none of these lots will be subdivided. Each one is about twice the minimum lot area. Mr. Murphy: I have no objection to that. Mr. Wickham: When you set off a minor subdivision from a larger parcel, we require a covenant that if you or the subsequent owners decide at some time that you want to subdivide it, it has to be subdivided as a major subdivision. Mr. Murphy: My reason for buying the property is to put it into the trees. I want to get rid of the woodland. I am going to tie that piece up for a minimum of twelve years in Christmas trees. Mr. Wickham: We found that one's plans frequently change and this is why we require these covenants to go with the land. It has been uniform practice on this board as a condition of a minor subdivision on one portion of the property, we require a covenant that will run with the land that the rest of it will not be Planning Board - -2- March 6, 1978 divided except by a major subdivision smd this is toing to be a condition. It has uniformly been a condition that we require. Mr. Murphy: I have a man very interested in buying a lot. He has to start building very soon and I am looking for approval so I can sell this lot to this man. We tried to make very large lots and make it as good for the to~n as possible. I have spent a lot of money on interest on the land and I bought the land so I could raise some Christmas trees and the only way is to buy a piece like this and sell some off. If I can sell the four lots off, I hope to have Christmas trees in there for my retirement. Mr. Wickham declared the hearing closed and told Mr. Murphy a determination would be made later in the evening. West Creek Estates marina. Mr. Pfeffer, Mr. Jellett and another gentleman appeared. There was a question regarding the marina in the subdivision. It was these gentlemen's understanding that it would go to a property owners' association. Mr. Wickham would like to talk to the town attorney about it. It is possible that it is a violation of the implied promise of the filed map. Mr. Wickham told the gentlemen to call the office in a few days and he would have the information for them. There was a question as to who should initiate the action and Mr. Wickham felt it should be the property owners. Sebastian's Cove. George Toumanoff appeared. There was question about the cul de sac and where it should be located. Mr. Toumanoff suggested that it be a cul de sac with Section i and if Section 2 is developed it be made into a corner and go down to the boat ramp. When Mr. Raynor questioned the egress and ingress, Mr. Wickham said there would be a fifty foot road put in Section 2 but it would not be a spec road. Mr. Toumanoff said the intention was to keep the roads private when a 100 foot turnaround dotted in at the boat ramp area was discussed. Mr. Toumanoff said he wanted to sell lot 2 which has a house on it. Mr. Raynor said on preliminary approval they have released one lot but with road frontage. Xouros Acres. Edward Boyd, Esq., appeared. The lot transferred to Mr. Horton has been left out of the subdivision and must be put back in. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to set 8:30 p.m., March 27, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing on the final map of the subdivision known as "Kouros Acres", owned by Olympia Xouros. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall Planning Board - -3- - March 6, 1978 01d Towne Park. James Bitses, Esq., appeared. This property has been before the Town Board for its decision as to whether it can be developed in the cluster concept. The Town Board referred the matter back to the Planning Board to decide what is buildable land. Actually, the code says that land subject to flooding cannot be considered as part of the overall area. Mr. Wickham told Mr. Bitses to use the center of the dike line as the limit of buildable land with a little cut out where the flooding occurs. He then wants the total area. Mr. Bitses should present this map to the Planning Board and the Planning Board will re-present the matter to the Town Board. ~ong Pond Estates. Roderick Van Tuyl and Larry Tuthill, Town Engineer, appeared to discuss this subdivision with the Planning Board. The memorandum of Mr. Tuthill dated January 17, 1978 was reviewed. 1. That recharge basin #1 be redesigned because elevation changes between that of the designed top of water elevation used in computations for capacity and the actual grade as determined from adjacent road grades. It was agreed that by dropping it, it will be right. 2. A plan showing new proposed drainage lines. It was agreed the drainage facilities should be shown on the map. 3. A 20 foot road leading to the recharge basin #2, that shall be considered as part of the drainage area. It was originally 15 feet wide and that will be acceptable. The comment about lot #6 being undersized was discussed. Mr. Van Tuyl said it was his understanding that the developers would go to the Board of Appeals for a variance on this lot. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board the bond estimate of $195,000 as prepared by Lawrence M. Tuthill, P. E., for the roads and drainage in the subdivision known as "Centennial Manor~ Section One" owned by Luglio and others. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall One of the reasons for the high cost on this is because the trenching for the piping will have to be sheathed because of the depth. Planning Board - -4- - March 6, 1978 On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was RESOLVED to set 7:30 p.m., March 27, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing on the preliminary map of the subdivision known as "Peconic Bay Cove" owned by Zaino and Sardelli. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was RESOLVED to set 8:00 p.m., March 27, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing on the preliminary map of the subdivision known as "Orient Hills" owned by Ernest and Harold Wilsberg. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was RESOLVED to set 9:00 p.m., March 27, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a public hearing on the map of the minor subdivision of property of'Joanne Schwartz. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall Mr. Gordon made a motion, seconded by Mr. Coyle and carried to approve the minutes of the meetings of January 30, 1978 and February 14, 1978. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to disapprove the preliminary map of the subdivision known as "Soundwood Farm" owned by Rubin for the following reasons. 1. The subdivision does not meet the requirement of Article III Section A106-32F of the Code of the Town of Southold which calls for two accesses for twenty lots or more. 2. The grades of the roads do not meet the minimum require- ment of .5 slope and the Planning Board sees no way that this requirement could be met the land being simply too flat and too long a strip to provide acceptable drainage without a number of substantial drainage area structures. 3. The bluff should not be used as part of the park and playground area. Therefore, the park and playground area is not adequate. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wic~am, Razor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall Planning Board - -5- March 6, 1978 Country Club Estates. The letters of the Conservation Advisory Council and Lawrence M. Tuthill, P. E. were read. These letters will be forwarded to Gary Olsen, attorney for the developer. Erard A. Matthiessen minor subdivision. This will have to be presented as a minor subdivision. Each lot has to be at least 40,000 square feet and if any are substantially over 40,000 square feet, he must provide a covenant which will run with the land that it will not again be divided. Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Raynor and carried that the meeting be adjourned. Meeting adjourned at 10:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Muriel Brush, Secretary Wickham, Chairman