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JOHN WlCKHAM, Chairman
FRANK S. COYLE
HENRY E. RAYNOR, Jr.
FREDERICK E. GORDON
JAMES WALL
Southold, N.Y. 11971
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765-1938
A regular meeting of the Southold Tow~ Planning Board was held
at 7:30 p.m., Monday, July 17, 1978, at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York. Present were:
Chairman John Wickham
Vice-Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr.
Frank S. Coyle, Member
Frederick E. Gordon, Member
James Wall, Member
Lawrence M. Tuthill, Town Engineer (8:30 p.m.)
Edward Bage, Town Engineer (8:30 p.m.)
Douglas Love, L. I. Traveler-Watchman
Peter Campbell, Suffolk Times
Franklin Bear, North Fork Environmental Council
Millicent Gossner, League of Women Voters
Victor Trunce, Planning Student
Mr. Wickham called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Rene Gendron - Indian Woods (Fischer Estate) Mr. Gendron appeared.
Mr. Wickham read over the letters from the Soil & Water Conservation
District and Supt. of Highways Dean regarding the water problem that
Mr. Gendron is having with his minor subdivision. There is no
updated letter from Mr. Dean's office although Mr. Gendron said that
Mr. Dean had indicated he would deliver a letter today. Mr. Wickham
said the Planning Board will not take action until there is a letter
in the file from the Supt. of Highways.
Mr. Wickham asked Mr. Raynor to chair the remainder of the meeting.
Sea Breeze Village. Richard Lark, Esq., and Emmanuel Kontotkosta
appeared. Mr. Raynor reported that he had contacted the Town
Attorney regarding the Southold Town Environmental Quality Review
Act and Mr. Tasker had told him to comply with Local Law #3,
Sections 44-5, 44-6 and 44-7. The letter from Mr. Lark which
complies with 44-5 and 44-6 has been posted on the Town Clerk's
Bulletin Board which is part of requirement 44-7. Mr. Lark stated
that this is a revised plan which meets with the building inspector's
approval and it is in technical compliance as far as the zoning law
is concerned. Mr. Wickham expressed concern about the setback from
the bank. He said we have required 100 feet. Mr. Lark referred to
a study that shows the area in question to have a .6 foot accretion
rather than erosion. Mr. Wickham said he would not accept this
study as valid and the Technical Report 18 is worthless because it
is completely inaccurate. Mr. Wickham stated that this property is
not adapted to that many units or that much use. Further discussion
ensued regarding the zoning of the property for that purpose and so
forth. Mr. Raynor ended the discussion by saying that the Planning
Board would discuss the matter later in the evening.
Woodbine Manor. Mr. and Mrs. John Fellinger-Ihar and Shepard
Scheinberg, Esq. appeared. Mr. Scheinberg said that the Fellinger-
Ihars agree to pay the inspection fee based on the $66,000 bond
estimate but desire not to post the bond but complete all require-
ments before the signing of the final map. Mr. Raynor said he had
not had the opportunity to check with the to~n attorney. If it is
agreeable to the town attorney that the board follow this line of
reasoning, it would be the only change from the set schedule. The
Fellinger-Ihars have entered into an agreement with the town to
deed to the town property for a recharge basin and are ready to
enter into a contract and close immediately depending on the action
of the Planning Board. There is an understanding with the Supt. of
Highways and the Town that the soil being removed should remain on
the property for the Fellinger-Ihars to utilize. Mr. Tasker is to
be asked for a written opinion on this.
Mr. Wickham made a motion, seconded by Mr. Coyle and carried
that the Planning Board explore with the Town Attorney a setback
requirement for property with bay or sound frontage to be an amend-
ment os the Rules and Regulations for the Subdivision of Land.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED that final approval be given the map of subdivision
known as "Brionngloid-by-the-Sea" and upon receipt of final maps
containing all signatures necessary from all agencies the chairman
be authorized to sign the map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
There was a question about the construction of the rights-of-way
and the developer expressed an interest in having the work bonded.
Mr. Raynor asked Mr. Tuthill to prepare a bond estimate.
Maude Morgan. Helen Reiter had inquired as to what the Planning
Board would require for access to this property. It will be
necessary to have 25 foot wide for a minor subdivision and 50 foot
wide for a major subdivision. It will be up to the town engineer
as to what is necessary to make the road passable. An inspection
will be made if Ms. Morgan intends to proceed with a subdivision.
Serge Traube property. Helen Reiter had inquired about this
property and if it was possible to make this a subdivision with
all lots on the road and however deep they were. A sketch should
be submitted as to what the developer would like to do.
An amendment to the minutes of June 26 is to be made on page
5 regarding the size of the water mains. It should be 3/4 inch and
i inch.
Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon and carried
to approve the minutes as amended.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to recommend the bond amount of $230,000 as submitted
by Lawrence M. Tuthill, Engineer, for the subdivision know~ as
"Paradise-by-the-Sound" to the Town Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
It will be necessary to have a letter in the file from Supt. of
Highways Dean before the Planning Board can give final approval
to the preliminary map and forward same to the Suffolk County
Planning Commission for its action.
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Wickham, it was
RESOLVED to graut approval to the sketch map of Droperty of
William and Barbara Schriever, said map dated May 16, 1978, subject
to Mr. and Mrs. Schriever applying for and obtaining a change of
zone of the business-zoned property to residential.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to recommend the bond amount of $140,000 as submitted
by Lawrence M. Tuthill, Engineer, for the subdivision known as
"Country Club Estates" to the Town Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
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It will be necessary to have a letter in the file in the matter
of "Country Club Estates" from the Supt. of Highways before the
Planning Board can give final approval to the preliminary map and
forward same to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for its
action.
On motion made by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED that based on a report from Edward Bage, Town
Engineer, stating that all elements of the bonding have been met
according to town standards, the Planning Board of the Town of
Southold recommends to the Town Board release of the bond for
the subdivision known as "Pebble Beach".
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion m~de by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that in view of the fact that the rough grading has
been completed, the Planning Board would recommend that the bond
amount for the subdivision known as "Country Club Estates" be
reduced to $100,000. The inspection fee is to be based on the
original bond amount of $140,000.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Ceyle, it was
RESOLVED to approve the preliminary map dated January 7, 1977
and amended April 14, 1978 for the subdivision known as "Bayview
Farm" owned by Peter Blank, Jr., and Mary Louise Blank.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
Long Pond Estates. The recommendations of Lawrence M. Tuthill
of June 25, 1978 are to be sent to Ernest Wilsberg.
Orient Hills. Mr. Tuthill's recommendations were reviewed as to
the compliance with the revised maps. Item i is still incorrect.
It shows 1,000 feet more pip than is needed. Comment and
recommendation #1. Included in the correction should be a control
survey of the proposed roads. NorthviewDrive is broken up by
C~mmings property so it should be labelled east and west on the
map.
On motion made by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve the preliminary map of subdivision known
as "Richmond Shores at Peconic" dated June 28, 1978 with the
exception that the trees are too close and should be fifteen feet
apart.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve the final map of the subdivision known as
"Southold Gardens" with the stipulation that the sand drain be
lowered one foot and recommendation that there be a pipe connecting
with the adjacent catch basin. This is also subject to the approval
of the Supt. of Highways and the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
Acknowledgement was made of a letter from Ms. Jody Adams. The
Board will study her comments.
Mr. Raynor asked that the record show that he was very pleased
with the performance of Mrs. Linda Kowalski who helped out the board
during the two-week absence of the regular secretary. Ms. Brush
also commented that Mrs. Kowalski had catalogued all telephone
messages and the mail which was most helpful to her upon her return.
On motion made by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve the site plan of "Sea Breeze Village"
dated May 25, 1978 and revised June 2, 1978 subject to the rear yard
setback requirement being equal to the adjacent property to the
west and that on the east it be not closer than 75 feet from the top
of the bluff.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
Receipt was acknowledged of a letter from Mr. Edward Bage
indicating that he will no longer be performing engineering services
for the Planning Board.
Mr. Wickham reported on the "S~mmary of Development Plan for
the Town of Southold". He and Frank Beear have discussed this
matter several times and there are several things that would be
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added to it. Some reference has been made to the "208 Waste Water
Study" and the Coastal Zone Management. The Soil Conservation
Service has suggested that this would be the time to have some sort
of an update on the erosion control requirements for subdivisions
in progress so that raw land isn't left out for the winter. Each
one of these things should be considered in the implementation.
Shore erosion could be in there, too. The Supervizerwants the
completed s~mmary and Mr. Wickham said he would try to get it to
him in five or six weeks. Another draft will be made and if the
Town Board thinks well of it, it can be printed.
There being no further business to come before the Board,
Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Wall and carried that the
meeting be adjourned. Meeting adjourned at lO:O0 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,