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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-08/28/1978JOHN WICKHAM. Chairman FRANK S. COYLE HENRY E, RAYNOR, Jr, FREDERICK E. GORDON JAMES WALL Southold, N.Y. 11971 TELEPHONE 765 - 1938 held Main A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was at 7:30 p.m., Monday, August 28, 1978, at the Town Hall, Road, Southold, New York. Present were: John Wickham, Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr., Vice-Chairman Frank S. Coyle, Member Frederick E. Gordon, Member Peter Campbell, Suffolk Times Douglas Love, L. I. Traveler-Watchman Frank Bear, North For~ Environmental Council Jean Tiedke, League of Women Voters Lawrence M. Tuthill, Engineer (9:00 p.m.) 7:30 p.m. Public Hearing on the matter of the approval of the preliminary map of "Sterling Forest" owned by Ronald and Edith Reese. Mr. Harold Reese, agent for the developers, appeared. Mr. Raynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented proof of publication in the Suffolk Times. Mr. Wickham read the following letter from the Suffolk County Department of Planning to the Planning Board. Dear Mr. Wickham: In accordance with your request the staff has examined the proposed subdivision layout for an 8.66 acre tract reputedly owned by Harold Reese and offer the following comments on the map for your use. The proposed layout relative to County, State and Federal roads, properties and proposals is considered to be satisfactory. We have noted that there is no tie distance to the nearest intersection shown on the preliminary map. This should be indicated on the final map. In addition, there appears to be a low, swampy area in the northwest corner of the tract which is not shown on the topo. Since Sound View Avenue will undoubtedly become a major town collector road serving the area when it becomes developed, it is suggested that vehicular access to Lots i and 8 be restricted to the proposed street to help preserve the traffic carrying capacity of the road. Staff comments on a preliminary map do not constitute a review of the map by the Suffolk County Planning Commission. When the map has been finalized it should be referred to the Commission for review pursuant to Section 1333 of the Suffolk County Charter. /s/ Charles G. Lind, Chief Planner Mr. Reese is to be sent a copy of this letter. July 11, 1977 Gentlemen: I approve of the layout and clearing of the road and recommend leaching pools and not a recharge basin for this subdivision. The driveways of lots I & 8 must be on the proposed road and not on to Soundview Avenue. /s/ Raymond C. Dean Supt. of Highways The following memorandum from Lawrence M. Tuthill, Engineer, was read. "On June 15, 1977 Mr. Dean and I inspected the site and noted that there are definitely clay deposits on the site. Because of the unsuitability of this clay in roads, it is recommended that these areas be removed to 4' below the proposed road grade and be filled with bankrun. It is also recommended that prior to final approval the exact location of the leaching pools be staked out and that test holes be dug in these areas. Mr. Wickham: The file appears to be in order. As is the usual procedure, I will ask for those that wish to be heard in opposition to this subdivision. This is a preliminary. Hearing none, I will ask for those that wish to be heard in favor of it. Mr. Reese: We are in favor of it. I think we have complied with most of the requirements in the preliminary map which we supplied to you. Mr. Wickham: I want to support our engineer's statement that there are probIems with these soils in that particular area and in this regard, last meeting we had a subdivider who is building a road a short distance to the east and the subsurface water had found its way almost to the center of the road and was coming out in the form of a spring. He had to take the rather unusual step of tile draining the roadbed and I am supporting the engineer's -3- contention that there may be problems here and I bring this to your attention. We will be on the lookout for this and you should understand it. Does any member of the board have anything? Mr. Coyle: Just make sure that Larry follows up on it. Mr. Wickham: If there is nothing else, I will declare the hearing closed. Frank Reed appeared representing his partner, Mr. Brisco Smith, and Mr. Smith's morner and brother. Mr. Smith received the property under the will of Winifred B. Clark. It is on Equestrian Avenue at Fishers Island. They wish to sell the property aud the buyer wants to build another building on Parcel A. Proof will have to be presented that this was devised this way. Mr. Raynor told Mr. Reed to get an accurate survey of the property so he will know which board to come back to as it may be a matter for the Board of Appeals to divide a piece of property with insufficient area. It is a hard and fast rule of the Planning Board that if the owner wants to split off a piece of property he must covenant the rest to come in as.-a major subdivision. Dawn Estates. Richard Cron, Esq., showed the board a map of a minor subdivision of this property which had been presented to the board before. The board had told Mr. Kaplan previously that this must be a major subdivision and it has not changed its mind. Margery Burns minor subdivision. Richard Cron, Esq., appeared. There was discussion regarding the maps of this property presented as a two-lot minor subdivision. Mr. Cron said they had permission from the Dept. of Environmental Conservation for two lots. The Board will require a covenant that lot 2 cannot be further sub- divided. Richmond Creek Farms. Richard T. Haefeli, Esq., appeared. The Board had previously received copies of this subdivision in the cluster concept. Mr. Wickham suggested that the development rights be sold to the county and then the property sold back to the farmer for farming. Mr. Haefeli di~u't think the owners would be interested. The Board will wait for Mr. Haefeli to get back to them. Macari subdivision. Gary 01sen, Esq., appeared. Mr. 01sen was asked if the developer was going to extinguish the rights-of-way and Mr. Olsen answered that he thought the lots would be sold subject to the rights-of-way. There was discussion about some type of landscaping at the entrance. -4- At this point, Mrs. Mary Zebroski appeared before the Board with an unstated objection to the subdivision of the Reese property, "Sterling Forest". She demanded to be notified when the public hearing is scheduled for the final map. Dr. Meyer Rosenburg minor subdivision. Mrs. Rosenburg presented a revision in the minor subdivision of property which had been approved by the Planning Board but not signed. They have since gone to the Board of Appeals and received a variance to divide the property on the water. It will still be necessary to file covenants that the property will not be further subdivided and final maps presented. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to approve the site plan of Eastern L. I. KampMrounds, Inc. containing 1~8 sites and dated August 21, 1978, subject to: 1. Approval of the Town Board for additional sites and permit issued. 2. Approva! of Board of Appeals for special exception to operate tourist camp, including additional sites. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon. Kontokosta site plan for Sea Breeze Village was reviewed. The following information will be necessary before final approval can be given this site plan. Planting schedules separate from the master sheet to see if there is adequate planting. What is going to be in the front yard. A separate lighting schedule. Front, rear and both side profiles not atypical but a drawing representative of each quad unit. Mr. Wickhamwould like serious consideration to be given to hooking up with the Greenport Sewer System. Sterling Marina consideration of additional boutiques at this area. As this area is limited for the amount of parking, the matter will be referred to the building inspector for his calculations as to what additional building could be allowed. It was the consensus of the board that this area should not be turned into a shopping center with its obvious bad effect on the Village of Greenport shopping area. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the property of Margery Burns Dated November 8, 1974 and revised August 17, 1978. The final map is to have the Health Department stamp on it. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board approval of Application #2~0 of William W. Schriever requesting a change of zone from "B" Light Business to "A" Residential and Agricultural District on certain property at Orient, New York, due to the fact it is: 1. Consistent with the Development Plan of the Town of Southold. 2. Consistent with the residential pattern of the immediate neighborhood. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Gordon Nay: Coyle Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Raynor and carried to approve the minutes of the meeting of August 7, 1978. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board the bond estimate as prepared by Lawrence M. Tuthill, P. E., in the amount of $27,000 for the roads and improvements in the subdivision known as "Southold Gardens" located at Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon A letter directed to Lawrence M. Tuthill from the Town Clerk was discussed. The section of the letter which will require clarification reads as follows: "In the future the Town Board will not accept a revised amount for a bond, such as you submitted for the above subdivision. The original recommendation must stand, regardless of what items have been completed prior to the estimate." Mr. Wickham reported that he inspected the road at the "Dndian Woods subdivision" owned by Rene Gendron and was present at the time he was laying the tile and as he started to cover them and, in general, Mr. Wick~am is satisfied. The water was running through the tile even before he was finished backfilling. This should be investigated further. -6- Sterling Forest. Mr. Tuthill said that the developer should ascertain that there is no clay in areas where he plans to put in catch basins. He recommended going in with a backhoe snd making test holes at these locations. Mr. Raynor asked him to put his recommendations in writing. Mr. Bear made a report on the progress of the Development Plan. The S~mmary needs more checking because there is some question about dates. He will put in the Coastal Zone Management and 208 Water Study information. Mr. Wickham said the plau submitted by Raymond May together with the recommendations of the Planning Board would be inserted in the S~mmarywhich has already been accepted by the Planning Board. Mr. Bear was authorized to submit the Plan to the Town Board for its approval upon its completion. The next meeting of the Planning Board will be September 18. Mr. Raynor made a motion that the chairm~n write to Dr. Lee Koppelman stating the position of the Planning Board as to the creation of a single agricultural district in the Town of Southold. He is to relay what it means in terms of farm acreage, assessed valuation, loss in tax base and so forth. The Planning Board as well as the Town Board think it unwise to make a single district of the entire town. Trustee Gordon seconded the motion and it was carried. Mr. Wickham stated that he is directly involved in the change of zone application of Lawrence Kirk as he is a partner in the owner- ship of the adjacent property and would like to absent himself from the meeting at this point. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board approval of Application #239 of Lawrence Kirk requesting a change of zone from "A" Residential and Agricultural District to "B-l" General Business District on certain property at Cutchogue, New York, for the following reasons: 1. It is in conformity with the Development Plsn of the Town of Southold. 2. It is in keeping with the continuity of the business district in the hamlet of Cutchogue. 3. The Planning Board basically agrees with the reasons im the application. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon -7- Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Gordon and carried to adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 10:17 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ~JJohn Wickham, Chairman