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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-09/18/1978P T( D ~,D JOHN~CKHAM. Chairman FRANK S. COYLE HENRY E. RAYNOR. Jr. FREDERICK E. GORDON JAMES WALL Southold, N.Y. 11971 TELEPHONE 765- 1938 held Main A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was at 7:30 p.m., Monday, September 18, 1978, at the Town Hall, Road, Southold, New York. Present were: John Wickham, Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr., Vice-Chairman Frank S. Coyle, Member Frederick E. Gordon, Member Millicent Gossner, League of Women Voters Franklin Bear, North Fork Environmental Council Peter Campbell, The Suffolk Times Lawrence M. Tuthill, Engineer Absent: James Wall (inclement weather) Orient Point Estates. Robert Grant and Mr. Margolin, owner, appeared. Mr. Wickham asked if they had considered offering this property for farmland acquisition by the County. Mr. Margolin answered that they had been negotiating for three and a half years and the offers were unrealistic. When questioned about the datum for the map, Mr. Grant replied that it had been taken from a 1968 Alden Young map. Mr. Wickham stated that the Board did not consider four and five foot elevations as buildable land. Mr. Margolin said he had a development in Westhampton Beach with four and a half foot elevations, all on pilings. There is fill only in the driveways. Mr. Wickham said the County and the Board require cesspools be the same elevation and require that land be filled to the 18 inches below first floor level. Mr. Margolin said the County had approved what they have done in Westhampton Beach. Mr. Wickham said the cesspools had to be flood proofed to flood plain which is first story elevations. Mr. Wickham said the Board has insisted that at least 20,000 square feet of a lot be buildable or be filled or in natural state at an elevation not subject to flooding and that the cesspool be included in that 20,000 square feet or fill or natural standing area. Mr. Margolin replied that if they built on pilings it makes no sense to fill a lot. Mr. Wickham requested a more detailed map including the datum for the contours, the wetlands labelled, high tide line labelled. The Board will want the recommendations of the Soil and Water Conservation District and the Conservation Advisory Council. A team from the Board will investigate the site. Braatz minor subdivision. Abigail Wickham, Atty. appeared. This subdivision was reviewed and the Board indicated it would have to know where the town road ends. Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Gordon and carried to approve the minutes of the meeting of August 28, 1978. Country Club Estates. Gary Flanner Olsen, Esq., appeared. Howard Young. Mr. Wickham read a letter from the attorney in which he stated he would include the following in the covenants and restrictions to be filed with the map. 1. That all roof drain pipes must be connected to dry wells. 2. Access to Lot Number 32 shall not be from the Main Road. 3. No sewage disposal shall be located within 100 feet of the marsh area. Mr. Raynor questioned if there is enough park and playground area. Mr. Wickham asked about the marsh area of 4.129 acres which is not to be built upon. The total area of the marsh and recreation area is 4.129 plus two acres which will not be built upon. The Dept. of Environmental Conservation has given a blanket approval on every- thing according to the attorney. The covenants will have to include that no lot will be resubdivided. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to approve the final map of the subdivision known as "Country Club Estates" and authorize the chairman to sign the map which will be released to the attorney upon receipt of the filing information of the covenants and restrictions. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Mr. Wickham informed the Board that Mr. Babcock feels that since this has finished in a year and meets all the standards of the inspector and surpasses them, it is somewhat unfair to require the increased costs for three years in the bond. He thinks one year is reasonable but the second and third are not in view of the fact that the work is all done and approved. He has spoken to the supervisor on this and may take it up at a future time. Mr. Wickham feels that from the point of view of the Planning Board this would seem reasonable and doesn't involve a great deal and there are cases where developers complete all of their work without posting a bond and it seems unreasonable to Mr. Wickham to add the increased cost for two years in computing the fees. Regardless of what Mr. Babcock may do now, he feels the Planning Board has to be fair and he would guess that the Planning Board would recommend that the Town Board under some circumstances where the work is all completed that the increased cost part of the bond be not considered in setting the fee. Southold Gardens. Gary Flanner Olsen, Esq. appeared. Howard Young. On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to approve the preliminary subdivision map of Southold Gardens as a~ended August 8, 1978 which includes a revision on the sand drain. Mr. Lawrence M. Tuthill, Engineer, gave verbal approval of the map. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Mr. 01sen will send a copy of the agreement with the Village of Greenport for water and after that the map will be forwarded to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for its review. Macari. Gary Flanner Olsen, Esq. appeared. Howard Young. On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to waive the requirement of AlO6-32F of the Code of the Town of Southold that states that a subdivision of more than twenty lots must have two connections to a town highway in the subdivision of Macari in view of the fact that the Planning Board has requested that the developers have a single ingress and egress because of the inherent danger of the double entry sketch that was first presented to the board. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by ~. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to grant approval of the sketch map of Macari as dated June 18, 1978. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Col. Ted Dowd. Mr. 01sen resubmitted the final maps with the name of the subdivision changed to Sea-Aire Estates. There was no objection to the new name by the Board. Bayview Woods. Howard Young and Joseph Shipule, developer, appeared. The circle should be moved to the property line on the northern cul-de-sac. Mr. Shipule was requested to submit an affidavit of the principles, stockholders and directors of the corporation.)~ A field survey will be made of the property with the road entrances of special interest. Ms. Jody Adams appeared before the Board with some questions mud observations regarding the Indiau Neck area of Peconic. She requested more information regarding Indian Neck Park. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Ray-nor, it was RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the minor subdivisions of C. Edmonds Allen and Peter F. Kreh dated September 21, 1976 and ~mended Setpember 12, 1978. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon The Board directed that this map be sent to the Suffolk County Planning Commission for its determination. The County had originally denied both these minor subdivisions. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the minor subdivision of property of Margery. D. Burns at Southold, New York, at 7:30 p.m., Tuesday, October 10, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Ray-nor and carried the following proposed budget for 1979 was approved. Office Supplies $ 450.00 Advertising for legals 2,000.00 Transportation, lodging & meals (FoI.member) 2,300.00 Car expense @.13~mile 250.00 Assn. of Towns, NTPF and educational courses 1,O00.00 Office equipment 500.00 New York Planning Federation dues 55.00 Members salaries (presently $16,000) Secretary's salary (presently $9,565) If engineer is to be paid from Planning Board budget it will require a revision. Estimated receipts for application filing fees and inspection fees included in Town Clerk's budget. On motion made by Mr. Wickham, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to designate Mr. John Davis as inspector of roads and improvements in subdivisions in the Town of Southold. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Rosenberg minor subdivision. The Board of Appeals gave a variance to split one of these lots and the Planning Bosrd would like to see the restrictions placed on the lot by the Board of Appeals. Mr. Raynor will contact the town attorney to determine how this matter should be handled. Sterling Forest. (Reese) The Board had been awaiting Mr. Tuthill's recommendations in writing. Mr. Tuthill indicated he had submitted them and the secretary will follow up on this matter. Action on the preliminary map was not taken at this meeting. Mr. Wickham said he had made another inspection of the Rene Gendron Indian Woods subdivision and the drainage seems to be working nicely. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was RESOLVED to amend the resolution of August 28, 1978 regarding the change of zone application of William W. Schriever to read as follows: "RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board approval of Application #240 of William W. Schriever requesting a chsnge of zone from "B" Light Business to "A" Residential and Agricultural District on certain property at Orient, New York, due to the fact it is: 1. Consistent with good planning. 2. Consistent with the residential pattern of the immediate neighborhood." Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wibkham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Orient Hills. The Planning Board requests a controlled survey of the property to establish the elevations because the Board is sure that the elevations taken from the aerial surveys are not accurate and there is too much variation in the highway profiles. Long Pond Estates. Mr. Lawrence Tuthill said a letter will be forthcoming with his recommendations on this map. Mr. Tuthill took an additional map and profile of this subdivision. Rich Young subdivision. Mr. Tuthill said a letter would be forth- coming on this subdivision. The following is a list of p6ssible changes in the Code of the Town of Southold which are to be presented to the Town Board for discussion at a future date: 1. Setback requirement of 100 feet from the Sound or Bay. 2. Establishment of an Environmental Quality Review Board. 3. Specifications for rights-of-way in minor subdivisions and time limit on installation of same. 4. Procedure for release of bond in major subdivisions. 5. Tightening up of requirements for fire hydrauts and firewells. 6. Elimination of decrepit houses in the Town. 7. Establishment of minimum elevations on property being developed. 8. Fines for illegal subdivision of property. 9. Redesign of curbs specifications. 10. Redesign of recharge basin specifications. ll. Adoption of fence detail specifications. 12. Provision that stamp of Health Department must appear on minor subdivision maps. 13. Increase in filing fee for minor subdivisions. 14. Site plan approval by Planning Board on all B, B-1 snd C zoned properties. 15. Changes to be made in section of Environmental Quality Review Section when referring to Section 617. 16. Consideration of a road from Bailie B~ach to Duck Pond Lane and possibly to Peconic Inlet to be constructed at Town expense so that property owners can develop their property along the Sound and one lot deep along the south side of the road with the remainder of the property to go into agricultural zoning. 17. stands. 18~ 19. 20. 21. Provision in ordinance regarding sale of produce at farmside Better enforcement of yard sales. Erosion controls during subdivision road construction. Front, rear and side profiles for architectural review. Architectural Review Board be set up. -7- 22. Review of marina and shore frontage requirements. 23. Separate lighting, planting and drainage schedules for site plan. 24. Recommendation that permanent certificate of occupancy not be given until two-year review by Planning Board of business sites. 25. Manholes distance be reduced from 250 to 200 feet. There being no further business to come before the Board, Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Gordon and carried to adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 10:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Muriel Brush, Secretary ~ohn Wickham, Chairman