HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/10/1978JOHN~CKHAM, Chairma~
FRANK S. COYLE
HENRY E. RAYNOR, Jr.
FREDERICK E. GORDON
JAMES WALL
Southold, N.Y. 11971
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A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was
held on Tuesday, October 10, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York, at 7:30 p.m. Present were:
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry E. Raynor, Jr., Vice-Chairman
Frank S. Coyle, Member
Frederick E. Gordon, Member
James Wall, Member
Millicent Gossner, League of Women Voters
Jean Tiedke, League of Women Voters
Franklin Bear, North Fork Environmental Council
Douglas Love, L. I. Traveler-Watchman
Peter Campbell, Suffolk Times
7:30 p.m. Public Hearing on the minor subdivision of property of
Margery D. Burns located at Southold, New York. Margery D. Burns
and Richard Cron, Esq., appeared.
Mr. Raynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented
proofs of publication in the L. I. Traveler-Watchman and Suffolk
Times.
Mr. Wickham read the following letter under date of October
5, 1978 fromthe Suffolk County Department of Planning to the
Southold Town Planning Board.
Dear Mr. Wickham:
The Suffolk County Planning Commission at its regular meeting
on October 4, 1978, reviewed the proposed subdivision plat entitled,
"Minor Subd~¢ision- Margery D. Burns", referred to it pursuant to
Section 1333 of the Suffolk County Charter. After due study and
deliberation it resolved to approve said map subject to the ~ollowing
conditions deemed necessary to help~eserve the natural and aesthetic
attributes of Canoe Inlet and Dryad's Basin:
1. No sanitary disposal facility shall be constructed within
100 feet of the mean high water line.
2. No stormwater ruuoff resulting from the development and
improvement of the lots shall be permitted to discharge directly into
the adjoining bodies of water.
3. Erosion control measures shall be required during and immed-
iately after construction to insure that soils and other deleterious
materials will not be carried into the adjoining bodies of water.
4. No building shall be erected on either lot that will be
closer than 50 feet to the mean high water line.
5. All necessary permits under the Tidal Wetlands Act, if
applicable, shall be acquired before start of any clearing or con-
struction on either lot.
/s/ Charles G. Lind, Chief Planner
Mr. Wickham: There are no highways involved. The correspondence
goes back to May of 1974. We have here under date of July 2, 1974
a statement from the then Tidal Wetlands Permit Administrator saying
that the construction of one home would have no adverse effect on
adjacent tidal wetlands and so forth. Our file would then appear to
be in order and I will ask for anyone who wishes to speak in
opposition to ~his minor subdivision on Cedar Beach Road in Southold
entitled "Minor Subdivision of Margery D. Burns". Hearing none, is
there anyone that wishes to speak in favor of it?
Mr. Cron: I appear on behalf of Mrs. Burns. As the Board has
indicated, this has been before this Board some period of time and
at one time there were three lots proposed. Since the Board opposed
that particular layout it was decided to ~roceed with a two-lot
minor. This was delayed somewhat by the applicant and ~omewhat by
circumstances not under her control. I ask that the Board please
make an early determination on this matter.
Mr. Wickham: Is there anyone else that wishes to be heard in favor
of this subdivision? I would like to say for the record that these
restrictions placed by the County are, in general, the same
restrictions which we would require on behalf of the Town of Southold
and the one thing which we generally require and is required by the
County Board of Health is that both the sanitary facilities and the
house be graded up to the same level and that would entail 20,000
square feet. We determined there was area enough to do this and
we foresee no problem but I would like it in the record that the
requirements of the County Board of Health are similar, if not
identical, and will require grading up to the cesspool and the house.
This is put in rather sharp perspective because of an application we
had last week where it was proposed to put houses on pilings and we
weren't able to discover what he was going to do with the cesspools.
Mr. Cron: In light of the fact that the board's restrictions will
be the same as the County's may I have a copy of it.
Mr. Wickham: Does this board have any questions? If there is nothing
else, I will declare the hearing closed.
Gunther Morchel site plan. Mr. Morchel ~nd Gordon Ahlers appeared.
At first, Mr. Morchel said he didn't own the property that the
Planning Board wanted put in shrubs. Then, Mr. Ah~ers said that Mr.
Morchel owned it but was using it to park six small foreign cars
for the tenants upstairs. Mr. Morchel said there would be a parking
problem if these spots were taken away. The Board insisted that
it be put in shrubbery as per the approved site plan and the cars
be parked elsewhere. There was discussion about a three foot paved
buffer zone on the east.
Lawrence Sto~an minor subdivision. Mr. Stojau and George Stankevich,
Esq., appeared. Mr. Stojan has sold the development rights to the
rear of this property. It should say Minor Subdivision of Lawrence
and Martha Stojan, together and as individuals. The Pl~uning Board
requested a copy of the deed for the development rights.
Long Pond Estates. Richard Cron, Esq. appeared. Mr. Cron asked
for some kind of action regarding the approval of this as he has
new recommendations from the Town Engineer.
Russell Case minor subdivision. Mr. Case would like a minor
subdivision where the golf driving range is. Mr. Wickham suggested
to him that he come in for a cluster minor subdivision and use the
golf driving range as the additional open space required and use
one-half acre lots for the buildings. The Board will inspect the
property.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to give tentative approval to the sketch map of
"Bayview Woods Corporation" dated February 15, 1978, pending
submission of a sketch plan map incorporating the proposals made
by the Planning Board in sketch map dated September 7, 1978
including the enlargement of the park aud playground.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
Heritage Harbor. Riverside Homes, Inc. Howard Young appeared.
Mr. Young wanted to know what is supposed to be done with the catch
basins and the fact that Mr. Tuthill's bond estimate doesn't
reflect what is on the map. He wants to know what to stake out.
Mr. Wickhamwants to discuss the matter with the Supt. of Highways.
The secretary was directed to set up an appointment.
Orient Point Estates. Mr. Raynor reported that he had made an
inspection of the property and looking at the surveyor's elevations
he can't believe it. Mr. Wickham said potatoes are growing there
although Mr. Raynor said water was up over his shoes. The following
appeared questioning the advisability of housing in that area.
Orville Terry, Joyce Terry, Frank Kujawski, Marie Johnson, Shirley
Bachrach, Paul Stoutenburgh, Merlin Wiggin, Walter Smith, Marjorie
Smith.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommends that
all consideration be given to Donald Tuthill, the developer of
Yennecott Park~ because he has met all the requirements of the Town
of Southold at every step and exceeded them and because the current
proposals will result in substantially lower density than originally
contemplated by this Board and the development uses municipal water.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
This resolution is in snswer to a request by Mr. Tuthill for support
from the board in his application to the Suffolk County Department
of Health for release of three lots, #2, #29 and #46 from an agree-
ment that these lots would be held and not sold.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
~ESOLVED to approve the preliminary map of the subdivision
"Sterling Forest" said map dated April 7, 1977, subject to the test
hole requirement as outlined by the Tow~ Engineer in report dated
August 29, 1978.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
RosenberE minor subdivision. A letter was read from Mr. Rosenberg
and Mrs. Rosenberg. Mr. Raynor reported that he had talked with
Dr. and Mrs. Rosenberg and it was his opinion that the Board should
rescind the resolution approving the original submission and where
he has gone to the Board of Appeals he now has a legal lot aud the
Board should start again with this subdivision. There was also a
letter dated October l0 from R. Terry, Attorney for the developers,
in which Mr. Terry requested~no action be taken. There was no
action taken at this meeting.
On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the Minor Subdivision of
Margaret V. Braatz, map dated July 27, 1978.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
***
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to give final approval to the map of the Minor
Subdivision of Mary W. MacNish dated October 13, 1977 and authorize
the chairman to sign the map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
***
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was
RESOLVED to refer to the Southold Town Board for its decision
as to whether it may be developed in the cluster concept the
subdivision to be known as Richmond Creek Farms.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
***
On motion made by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to approve the site plan of Sea Breeze Village owned
by Kace Realty Company, said plan dated May 25, 1978 and amended
August l, 1978.
Vote of the Board:
~es: Wic~, Razor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was
RESOLVED to approve the map of the Minor Subdivision of
Margery D. Burns and authorize the chairman to sign the map.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Coyle, Gordon, Wall
The site development plan of a Racquet and Tennis Club for
Sandy Rowe & Mary Tloczkowski. It will be necessary to have a
lighting schedule, more defined planting schedule, a drainage
schedule and copy of building plans.
In answer to an inquiry by John P. Gilowski regarding the
construction of the roads in his minor subdivision, the Planning
Board feels there is no reason why he can't remove the top soil
and replace it with bankrun but he will need a stabilizer of
either MC 0il, Pea Gravel or crushed stone.
A meeting will be set up for October 23rd with Robert
Beazley of Ecological Analysts, Inc. regarding the new State
Environmental Quality Review Act.
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
will be held on October 30th followed by a meeting November 27th.
There being no further business to come before the Board,
Mr. Coyle made a motion, seconded by Mr. Wall and carried to
adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Muriel Brush, Secretary
~d~ohn Wickham, Chairman