HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/25/1993PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Mark S. McDonald
Kenneth L. Edwards
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P. O. Box 1179
Southold, NewYork 11971
Fax (515) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINUTES
October 25, 199:5
Present were:
Richard O. Ward, Chairman
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
O. Ritchie Latham
Kenneth Edwards
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Robert Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer
Martha Jones, Secreta~/
Steve Jones, SCPC Director
Absent: Mark McDonald
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Mr. Ward: Oood evening. I'd like to call the October 25, 1993 Town Of Southold
Planning Board meeting to order. First of all I'd like to introduce a guest that's
with us tonight, Steve Jones, who Is the Birector of Planning for Suffolk County
Planning Commission, here in Suffolk County, and we thank you Steve for joining
us this evening. We call on some words of good wisdom. We've had some
discussions with him today on certain programs the County is doing, as well as
some of the things that we're dealing with here in the Town. He's starting to make
his rounds of the various towns, and we welcome you, Steve, and thank you for
coming.
First order of business, setting of next Planning Board meeting. Board to set
Monday, November 15, 1995 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Orlowskh Second.
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Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward:
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Mr. Ward: We'll wait until the applicant is here.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF APPLICATIONS
Final Determinations:
Mr. Ward: John & Joan Petrocelli - This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 9.8+
acres located on the east side of Paradise Point Rd. in Southold. SCTM# 1000-81-
3-19.5. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize
the Chairman to endorse the final surveys dated January 7, 1995. Conditional final
approval was granted on March 22, 1993. All conditions have been fulfilled.
Mr. Latham: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Final Extensions:
Mr. Ward: Paul Friedber.q ~ This major subdivision is for 9 lots on 22.105 acres
located on the west side of West Mill Rd.; 1102.15 feet south of Naugles Drive in
Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-106-9-4.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman I'd like to entertain a motion that the Southold Town
Planning Board grant a six month extension of conditional final approval from
November 3,199:5 to May 3, 1994.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in ~avor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
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Mr. Ward: Opposed?
Motion carried.
Preliminary Extensions:
Mr. Ward: Anclel Shores - This major subdivision is for 49 lots on 92.74 acres
located off Main Bawiew in Southold. SCTM# 1000-88-6-I, 4 & 5. What's the
pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a six
month extension of preliminary approval from October 27, 1995 to April 27, 1994.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Ward: Anna K. Plock - This major subdivision is for 5 lots on 21.79 acres
located on an existing r-o-w off North Bayview Rd. approximately 9:55 feet east of
Reydon Rd. in Southold. Four of the lots are between 1.7 acres and 2.2 acres in
size. The fifth lot is a reserved area to be conveyed to Peconic Land Trust. SCTM#
1000-79-5-20.2. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to entertain a motion that the Southold Town
Setting of final hearings:
Mr. Ward: HiahDoJnt Woods at East Marion - This major subdivision is for 10 lots on
20.5668 acres located on the north side of Main Road in East Marion. SCTM#
1000-22-:5-5 & :51-4-15. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I 'd like to make a motion that the Southold Town
Planning Board set Monday, November 15, 199:5 at 7::50 p.m. for a final public
hearing on the maps dated July 16, 199:5.
Mr. Orlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
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Planning Board grant a six month extension of preliminary approval from
November 3, 1993 to May 3, 1994. Conditional preliminary approval was granted
on May 3, 1993.
Mr. Latham: Second that motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Review of Reports: Suffolk County Planning Commission
Mr. Ward: Dunlap & Gray - This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 5.62 acres located
on Fox Ave. and Sappho Rd. on Fishers Island. SCTM# 1000-6-5-13.1. What's the
pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Southold Town Planning Board adopt
the Suffolk County Planning Commission report.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried~
Bond Determinations:
Mr. Ward: HiahDoint Woods at East Marion - SCTM# 1000-22-3-5 & 31-4-15.
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion to adopt the bond estimate dated as revised
October 19, 1993, and to recommend same to the Town Board. The bond
estimate is in the amount of ~;221,675.00 with an inspection fee in the amount of
$43,300.50.
Mr. Latham: Second that.
Mr, Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
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MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LiNE CHANGES, SET OFF APPLICATIONS - STATE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
Lead Agency Coordination:
Mr. Ward: Indian Shores - This major subdivision is for 42 lots on 105.6 acres
located on the south side of Main Road and the north side of New Suffolk Ave. In
Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-116-1-3. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion that
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board has received an application for a
major subdivision of a 105.6 acre parcel into 42 lots; and
WHEREAS, the subject property is located adjacent to a Critical Environmental Area
(Downs Creel0; and
WHEREAS, the subject property contains an area of archeological significance,
namely Fort Corchaug; and
WHEREAS, the environmental and historical issues pertaining to the site may be a
determining factor in the design of the layout of the site; and
WHEREAS, it is the Planning Board's opinion that in order to proceed with review of
the application with undue delay, the environmental review should be conducted
prior to determining the yield or the design of the layout of the site; be it
therefore,
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board start the lead agency
coordination process on this Type I action.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Determinations:
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to entertain a motion that the Southold Town
Planning Board acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, assumes
lead agency, and as lead agency makes a determination of non-significance, and
grants a Negative Declaration.
Mr. Ward: Dunlap & Gray - SCTM# I000-6-5-13.1. What's the pleasure of the
Board?
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Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
SITE PLANS
Final Determinations:
Mr. Ward: Mattituck-Laurel Veterinary Hospital - This site plan is for a $,656 square
foot Veterinary Hospital on 1.377 acres located on Route 25 in Laurel. SCTM#
1000-127-2-5.1. The applicant's attorney is here, so you may speak.
Pete Danowski: I'm not sure what the content of the resolution may say, I'm here
only to speak on behalf of the resolution. As you may know I appeared before the
Zoning Board of Appeals when the Zoning Board granted us permission for the use
and also granted us permission for the setbacks. Subsequent to that time, my
clients, Dr. Andresen and his wife, and Dr. Timpone and his wife, have individually
and perhaps together met with various people on the Planning Staff, and
addressed some issues that may have been raised with this Board, which resolved
in the final site plan that you're now considering.
I did speak to some staff today concerning a question that apparently may have
arisen, but I'd like to perhaps put to bed before you vote on the final resolution.
That concerned itself with somehow the possibility of perhaps someone saying,
and I don't even know if this Board said it or the staff said it or some stranger said
it, but somehow we should be going back, perhaps, to the Zoning Board of
Appeals. I don't think we should ever have to do that because the two issues
heard before the Zoning Board of Appeals was one, should there be a Veterinary
Hospital, and they voted yes, and two should there be a certain setback, and again
they voted yes.
The revisions done to a site plan really have nothing to do with those two issues
before the Zoning Board of Appeals. Specifically some question was asked of me
about a question that was originally asked of me in the Zoning Board of Appeals,
and that was would my client be having animals in paddocks outside the building
and in essence would we be renting out space or housing animals outside. My
answer to that was, we're here to treat animals in an emergency situation. This is a
hospital and we operate. Obviously, a horse will come in that has to be operated
on that may not be able to be operated out in the field or maybe we choose for
health standard reasons to operate in the hospital. That horse will be taken care of
and then hopefully will survive and be sent back home. But we don't plan on
having outside paddocks, there on none on the site plan that has been submitted
to you, that I know of. And therefore, I see no reason to have any conditions on
the site plan approval that would suggest going back to the Zoning Board of
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Appeals.
The interesting part is I also appreciate any contact, with myself as an attorney, to
alert me to the fact that if it's going to go back there, there are time frames to
get it in the paper, and I'm trying to save time. So anticipating, I come here
tonight I said, I better come and fill out a new application. It's the same
application to the Zoning Board of Appeals; it doesn't change at all. It merely just
shows them the most recent site plan. The setback stays the same, the $0 feet In
the back, and the use is the same, and we're not asking for the building of
paddocks and the storing of animals outside, which I had agreed with before the
Zoning Board of Appeals, would require a further application.
So I don't know whether someone stated some misinformation, but if you look at
the site plan which the Planning Board properly considers and the changes we
have made since the original application, you certainly have a right to delve into
questions about the building, and I think this final site plan addresses all the issues
that have been made known to my client. So, I would like to think that the
resolution, although I don't know it's content, won't make us go back to the Zoning
Board of Appeals, because I really don't see the right to make us go back there.
Not that I mind the people, they've granted us the use variance and the setbacks,
so I love them now, but the end line here is it's duplicitous. The same application
would have to be considered, and there's no purpose for it. So if someone is
going to tell me or explain to me that that's going to be a suggestion here, then
I'd like to continue to discuss it and perhaps have my clients individually speak to
that issue, but I really would like to have a resolution of approval tonight, which
won't be conditioned upon any further Zoning Board of Appeals application. We've
gotten the Health Dept. permission, we've been through SEQRA and it's an unlisted
action, we've had no comments in the allotted time period, and we've tried to
cooperate back and forth without my presence, which is probably a benefit, in
dealing with this Board.
Mr. Ward: AIright, maybe before we do a resolution on it, Bob what conversation
did we have with the Zoning Board?
Robert Kassner: We had planned to give final approval tonight to this site plan, but
as part of the approval process we send it to the Building Inspector In Charge for
his certification. This was done after Dr. Timpone delivered the site plans with the
Health Dept. stamp. He informed me today that he couldn't certifY it, that it was a
different site plan then was given to the Board of Appeals by Mr. Danowskl. I
informed him that I thought that the Special Exception was granted for a use as
opposed to a configuration. I asked Linda in the Zoning Board of Appeals if she
could poll her Board and see if the changes were of such a nature that we could
continue with our resolution. She polled the Board and apparently they came back
and said they wanted an amended Special Exception. And I believe Mr. Danowski
conversed with Linda down at the ZBA as to the reasons for this.
Mr. Danowski: I don't want to put Bob in a bad light here either because I haven't
had a chance to get back to him since this afternoon, I appreciated him contacting
me, but i've since talked to Mrs. Andresen, who is here, and Dr. Andresen and Dr.
Timpone and it's beside ourselves, we've cooperated, we've got the uses, I certainly
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don't mind if you granted us the site plan approval. If there's a further application
that's necessary for some additional amended grant of some further approval,
whether it's paddocks or whatever, I don't mind doing that. I think the problem
you have in any town is where you start first. And here, as in many towns, we
have some sort of coordinated effort in the very beginning saying OK you need a
variance, go to the Zoning Board, but we'd like to see a little bit of the sketch of
the site plan, and you try to cooperate in the beginning stages, which we did. We
showed a building and a setback. The setback for the $0 feet is consistent with
both plans, so no one's saying to us well you've changed the setback distance.
The use is still the same, there's no problem there. And I also don't want to not
cooperate with the Zoning Board. The problem I have is that I have a contract
that's conditioned on a time period that's about to expire, I still have to get my
building plans done and submitted, and I'm racing these time frames and I'd like to
think that we've satisfied the design criteria of this Board. So I would like to think
that you would not condition on anything. I appreciate Mr. Kassners comments,
but it's kind of, I don't want to say late in the game, but it is late in the game to
hear It today, that somehow, someone informally might want to see the plan
again, and I say for what purpose? No one is saying to us it's a different use, no
one is saying it's a different setback. And you'll have the same problem forever if
as you get back, after having left the Zoning Board, you correctly come here and
after discussions you change plans back and forth, with good discussions back and
forth, and revise plans, that every time we're going to end up saying after you got
permission from the Zoning Board and you come before the Planning Board, we're
going to send you back to the Zoning Board. It doesn't make sense, and so I think
this Board appreciates, and Mr. Kassner appreciates, that when you go before the
Zoning Board in any town, and not specifically on this project, you ask for a
particular use. For that purpose, you could just use a perimeter survey without
even showing a building on it. We want to build a veterinary hospital and office on
the site, you don't even need to show a structure. You don't need a site plan at
all.
Secondly, when you want to have a setback line, certain you show where the
setback line is. In this case $0 feet. That would be all a Zoning Board would be
Interested in and certainly conversations that I've put on the record, I certainly can
live with, and we can live with the conditions that I stated on the record. And
there is no, that I know of, construction called here of outdoor paddocks, so
somebody may have whispered something about that or said something that
caused someone else to say wait a second, the attorney said there are outdoor
paddocks and we were going to store horses on the site, you come back before
us, which we would. So, I'm asking you to certainly delete any reference to making
us go back to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Linda at the Zoning Board has been a
delight, she always has been, I have no problem with dealing with her. I met with
her today and I said look here's a bunch of new plans and here's the very same
application, the very same. Typed it up, say the same words, same setback, same
use. It doesnt make any sense (inaudible) I submitted it to her.
Mr. Kassner: What did she say, what was her reason?
Mr. Danowskh I have no explanation other than the same things we're talking
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about on the record. I also know the path of least resistance many times is to do
whatever someone tells me to do, if I have to do it 10 times. But from a clients
prospective, they're spending money and time and they need an explanation as to
why, if this is going to happen, they're being made to do something that doesn't
seem to be required. And I know Marybeth would stand up and go crazy on the
subJect but I dont really want her to, because I think that this Board would see the
reasoning here.
See, I don't know. Even if, voluntarily, this Board passed the resolution approving
the site plan, I'll deal with the Building Dept. and maybe the natural course of
things, the Zoning Board will see that amended plan anyway. I think the whole
system here allows for the interchange of these maps and part of the Zoning
Board of Appeals decision says when the final site plan is approved, send them a
copy of that final map so they can have it for their files. So, they're going to have
the map for their files. And if they see the need, because of that plan, for
something then they can send me a letter and address it. In the meantime, to
save time, I'm saying here's the papers, here's some extra maps, the next Board
meeting is coming up but I dont want to waive my client's rights because they've
already had the approval, and so I have to be careful of what I say to the Zoning
Board and say it's the very same application you granted, there's not a need for
this application but here's a bunch of maps and another application. So I would
like to have this Board vote and we'll take our chances with the Building Dept. or
whatever else. Just grant us the final site plan approval. To save time, if you're
not about to do that then I think Marybeth would like to get up...
Mr. Ward: OK, what's the pleasure of the Board? I'd like to offer the following
resolution,
WHEREAS, Charles A.Timpone is the contract vendee of the property known and
designated as Mattituck-Laurel Veterinary Hospital, located on Franklinville Road in
Laurel, SCTM# 1000-127-2-5.1; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was submitted on
August 1, 1993; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental
Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead agency, and issued a
Negative Declaration on September 13, 1993; and
WHEREAS, a variance and special exception was granted by the Zoning Board of
Appeals on August 18, 1993; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore,
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval
subject to a one year review from date of building permit, and authorize the
Chairman to endorse the final survey last revised on September 30, 1993, subject
to the following condition:
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1. Certification of the site plan by the Building Inspector In Charge.
This additional condition must be met within six (6) months of the date of this
resolution.
Mr. Latham: I second that motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed?
Mr. Orlowski: Note for the record, I abstain.
Mr. Ward: One abstention.
Mr. Danowski: Thank you.
Motion carried.
SITE PLANS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
Determinations:
Mr. Ward: D & D Cycles, Inc. - This site plan is for a $,1:~8 square foot motorcycle
repair and sales building on the 2.6 acre Limited Business portion of a 7.845 acre
Limited Business and Agricultural-Conservation District on County Road 48 in
Southold. SCTM# 1000-59-10-2. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to entertain a motion that the $outhold Town
Planning Board, acting under the State Environmental Quality Review ACt, assume
lead agency, and as lead agency makes a determination of non-significance and
grants a Negative Declaration.
Mr. Latham: Second that motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried. I'd just like to put on the record that to
address any concerns of the Zoning Board may have of the site plan or conditions
they may have imposed thereon, will you please forward a copy of this revised site
plan to the Zoning Board of Appeals for their review.
Mr. Ward: Any other business to come before the Board tonight?
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Mr. Latham: Mr. Kinzler is here for Hillcrest Estates.
Mr. Ward: OK, let's go to the hearing that was set for tonight, Hillcrest Estates -
Section 2 - This major subdivision is for 20 lots on 22.9 acres located in Orient.
SCTM# 1000-1 $-2-8.5.
Ben Kinzler: Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, as we had reported at the last
meeting that we attended at which this matter appeared before the Board, we
had some difficulty with respect to an application before the Board of Health.
Further to their denial of a variance application, we met with the Board and did
agree to perform certain additional and further testing on the property.
In order to perform the additional well testing, we have now, I believe copies may
have been provided to the Board, we have performed certain additional testing.
Paul Grosset, an engineer, directed testing through H2M labs. Two additional wells
were dropped at the site and the results of the two wells have come back
extremely well. The only problem being that one of the two wells tested for zinc,
which is now a new and additional problem one that didn't apparently exist before.
We've spoken with representatives of H2M and it is their belief, given the fact that
no other well, including the prior wells at the site, have shown any evidence of
zinc, that it's just a fluke, if you will, and they're in the process of retesting the
well. It is our hope and certainly our belief that the well will come back favorably
on a second test and this will allow us to return back to the Board of Health at
which point we can secure a favorable approval from them. We would ask, given
that fact, that this matter be adjourned.
I'd also like to address a matter that Mr. Latham had requested at the last hearing.
I'd like the Board to know that, of concern to the Board, and also of concern to us
has been the installation of a firewell at the site. We've been chasing Mr. Casola
for some time and Mr. Casola unfortunately is a very busy person, he has finally
delivered to us a contract. We had executed a contract with him about a month
ago for the installation of a firewell and we have asked him to proceed with the
installation of the firewell as expeditiously with all due and deliberate speed and it's
our hope that he will do that. I have a copy of the contract.
Mr. Ward: We'd appreciate having a copy for the file.
Mr. Kinzler: I have a faxed copy, if the Board would like.
Mr. Latham: Great news, great news.
Mr. Kinzler: I knew that that would be of great interest and certainly a welcome...
Mr. Ward: How many wells?
Mr. Kinzler: Whatever the requisite wells were.
Mr. Latham: There were two on that whole thing.
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Mr. Kinzler: Two?
Mr. Ward: This gets one of them.
Mr. Kinzler: OK, I was under the Impression there was...
Mr. Latham: Well, originally there were two on there and I don't think that's
changed.
Mr. Kinzler: Well t was under the impression there was one. We'll see that it's...
Mr. Latham: Well it was old but It hasn't gone away. But this is the right stuff.
Mr. Kinzler: I told Harold that if he didn't get it done I would be embarrassed to
come out here.
Mr. Latham: Is this Harold Jr.?
Mr. Kinzler: Junior. Harold Sr. hasnt been all that well.
Mr. Ward: What's the pleasure of the Board in terms of extension?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to entertain a motion to hold the hearing open
~or the proposed subdivision of Hillcrest Estates Section Two while the applicant
continues to pursue approval from the Suffolk County Health Department.
Mr. Ward: Is there a time that you're asking for at this point?
Mr. Kinzler: I would think that certainly anything less than 90 days would probably
be (inaudible) given the time that it's going to take to complete the testing, time
to go back to the Board of Health.
Mr. Ward: Alright, so can we amend the motion to that extent, 90 days?
Mr. Edwards: So amended to 90 days.
Mr. Latham: Second. (CHANGE TAPE)
Mr. Kinzler: I had some difficulty in putting together, there had been some issues
that I didn't really want to air that were personal to ...we had apparently had
resolved some issues and are in the process of completing the Board of Health
issues with Cove Beach, and I thought that I had indicated last time, I didn't want
to file the deeds unless and until the final applications were approved.
Ms. Spiro: I was addressing the lot line change which had conditional approval
subject to submission of the deeds.
Mr. Kinzler: I was under the impression that we were not going to file the final
deeds unless and until we had gotten a final approval on the subdivision. If that's
not the pleasure of the Board, we will file them.
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Mr. Ward: We assumed you were pursuing that.
Mr. Kinzler: Would the Board object terribly if we filed it simultaneously with a final
approval?
Mr. Ward: The question Melissa's bringing up is the fact that the time table here
just keeps dragging and dragging and we keep extending things, so if that's
something that can just come to a head and do it, let's do it and not have it drag
along.
Mr. Kinzler: I'll take care of it. Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Latham: One more thing as long as we're going back and forth to
other...there's a subdivision of Mr. Reese's - Grand View Estates - you don't know
about it?
Mr. Kinzler: I don't have the pleasure of representing him on that.
Mr. Latham: You might tell Mr. Reese, Jr. that there were two firewells supposedly
put in down there - that was some years ago - we haven't seen any yet. Just as
long as we're doing so well tonight.
Mr. Kinzler: Mr. Reese, Sr. has not been well and taking care of his affairs in
addition to taking care of the regular business has been ve~ difficult. I beg the
Board's indulgence. I can tell you on behalf of Mr. Reese, Sr., certainly on behalf of
Mr. Reese, Jr. there's not been intentional...
Mr. Latham: Just mention it anyway.
Mr. Kinzler: I11 take care of it tomorrow. I was not aware of it.
Mr. Latham: Thank you.
Mr. Ward: Back to the motion that was on the table for the 90 day extension for
Hillcrest Estates. There was a second to that, motion. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried, any further business to come before the
Board tonight, Mr. Latham?
Mr. Latham: No, I have no further business.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Orlowski?
Mr. Orlowski: No.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Edwards?
Mr. Edwards: None.
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Mr. Ward: We'll look for a vote to close the meeting.
Mr. Latham: I would vote that.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Ward: Second. Ail in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting adJourned
at 8:00 p.m.
Richard O. Ward, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Martha A. Jones
Secretary
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TIlE SOUTHOLD TOI~N CLERK
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