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Southold Town Clerk
10/26/07
EAST MARION HALO/HAMLET STAKEHOLDERS REPORT
1. Report of August 18n Public Input Meeting (Planning Board members have received
report which was sent to East Marion residents who participated in the process and it is also available on
Town website).
A, Summar~ of findings.
B. Recommended short-term actions
2. Recommended correction to hamlet center description.
Discussion of scheduled community informational meeting on affordable housing.
A. Draft. agenda,
B. Town assistance request.
4. Li~sonwi~TownCommiUees
5. Other
TO: Participants in the August 18*h East Marion Stakeholders Public
]Input Meeting
FROM: East Marion Stakeholders
DATE!: September 26, 2007
Thank you for your participation in our first public workshop in East Marion
on August 18th at the Firehouse. This memo summarizes the input you
provided regarding the issues and possible solutions that were identified by
the stakeholders. We emphasize that this is o summary. A full report of the
data can be found at Town website: http://southoldtown.northfork.net.
We will be reporting on community feedback when we have our next meeting
with the $outhold Planning Board, on October 29th.
Summary of Values and Wishes for East Marion's Future Developed by
Community Members at August 18th Meeting
What We Value Most About East Marion
· Physical beauty of this place- its shoreline, its remaining open spaces,
its night skies.
· Peaceful, friendly, quiet, rural character of our small community.
· Community where families can remain for generations.
Our Wishes for East Marion's Future
· Preserve rural quality of life.
· Save the open spaces that ore left.
· No commercial development, no high-density development.
· Maintain public and health services.
· Build informed and active citizenry who work with $outhold Town to
ensure our vision.
· Develop a plan for managing deer population
Summary of East Morion Issues Identified by Stakeholders
Traffic and Road Safety: Main Road is hazardous due to the number and
speed of cars, roadside congestion near the Post Office and Angel's Store,
and accidents caused by deer.
Agriculture and Land Preservation: Farming is threatened in East Marion
due to residential development of vacant land as well as the proliferation of
deer. ]]n addition, more public bay beach access is needed.
Town Relations/Code Enforcement: East Marion needs greater support
from the Town in the following areas: completing Old Schoolhouse Park,
monitoring LTPA tree trimming, trash pick-up in public areas, providing youth
recreational activities, enforcing existing codes regarding noise, signage, and
substandard housing.
Historic Preservation and Gateway: Traditionally, East Marion has not done
a good job of documenting, preserving, honoring or shoring its history.
Summary of Possible 5olutions Zdentified by Stakeholders
Reduce and enforce speed limits and utilize traffic calming devices and
signoge to emphasize the need for drivers to slow down when passing
through East Marion.
Address safety hazards and traffic congestion near Post Office and Angel's
Store by creating off-street parking and moving bus stop.
Explore multiple means of reducing the impact of ever-increasing Orient
ferry traffic and restricting any further expansion of ferry services.
Town should sponsor controlled hunt to reduce deer population.
Preserve East Marion's agricultural heritage by saving vacant land parcels
for forming use.
Improve existing public beech access points by repairing road ends and
clearing phrogmites.
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Work with Town to ensure existing codes ore enforced, LIPA tree trimming
is monitored, and needed recreational equipment and programming ore
provided for East Marion.
Create o local committee to begin collecting and documenting East Marion
history.
Investigate the establishment of on historic district along Main I~oad.
Provide boundary focal points for East Marion with well designed gateway
signs at the entrance and exit of the hamlet.
Summary of Feedback from Community Members Who Participated in
Public Input Meeting on August 18, 2007 at East Marion Firehouse,
9:30-12:00.
Strengths of the Proposals from the Stakeholders
· Support more consistent and frequent enforcement of traffic laws.
· Applaud strict enforcement of noise regulations after llpm at night
· Support recommendations for working with Southold Town and
community groups, like Peconic Land Trust, to preserve farmland.
· Appreciate stakeholders' position opposing further commercial
development in the hamlet.
· Support better signage, identification of sites for off-road parking,
and relocating the bus stop to reduce traffic congestion near Post
Office and Angel's Store.
· Support repair of Boy Avenue and Gillette Drive and removal of
phragmites to increase beach access.
· Appreciate that stakeholder process clearly identified East Morion
issues and provides East Morion residents with access and input into
Town Hall policies.
Other Opportunities Community Members See for Addressing These
Problems
East Morion needs more public meetings, o website, more
opportunities for input on community issues, and regular
communication between stakeholders and residents.
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· It is important for residents to stay involved in the political process,
through participation in the East Morion Community Association,
neighborhood groups, and ad hoc advisory groups on specific issues,
such as traffic, deer overpopulation, land preservation, in order to
have influence in government decisions that impact East Marion.
· Stakeholders should prioritize their efforts.
· Strengthen code enforcement in East Morion.
· Acquire Kortsolakis property for preservation and recreational use.
· Increase East Morion voter turnout and encourage part-time
residents to re-register and vote in Southold Town.
· LIPA must bury power fines and use certified arborist for tree
pruning.
· Utilize deer birth control rather than a hunt as o means of reducing
deer population.
· Buy waterfront for community access.
How Could the Stakeholders' Proposals Be Made Better?
· Increase public involvement
· Make sidewalks and road shoulders more pedestrian and bike-friendly.
· Eliminate road widening os an option for dealing with traffic problems.
· Install traffic calming devices at entrance and exit to East Morion
with slow-down sign.
· Institute organized communication between stakeholders and
residents.
· Brin9 together key players, such as Police Commissioner,
representative of bus company, Cross Sound Ferry, Town Supervisor
to help solve East Marion problems.
· Identify laws that are on the books and not being consistently
enforced, such os traffic and housing codes.
· Support role of the East Marion Community Association.
· Change zoning to allow for lower density.
Please watch the newspaper and your mailbox for notification of future
Stakeholder Public Input Workshops. Please plan to attend and continue the
conversation.
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Full report of the East Marion Stakeholders Meeting on 8/18/8007
Values and Wishes for East Marion's Future developed from Community
Members' Input on 8/18/8007
Values
1. Families to remain here.
8. Waterfront, access to shoreline for all people.
$. Physical beauty
4. Peaceful, friendly, quiet.
5. Maintain status quo.
6. Keep services and health services.
7. Not commercial.
8. Community to have information.
9. Small community, good sense of community, rural, nature [night sky]
lO.Open space and people are our biggest resources.
11. Worried about traffic safety.
12. Architectural mix of homes.
13. Shoreline rights for all.
14. Share information with each other.
1§. Marion Lake Preservation and Cleanup.
Wishes
1. Keep East Marian rural.
2. People want input.
3. Quality of life
4. Preserve historic places, open spaces.
5. Code enforcement of illegal housing.
6. How we can work with 5outhold Town to ensure our vision for East Marion.
7. Save what is left.
8. Over population of deer, need o plan for control.
9. No high density
10. Preserve open space.
11. Single homes vs. high density.
18. Shore oil spaces with all species.
13. Limit commercial development.
14. Maintain Morion Lake.
1§. Public input on changes for community.
5ticker comment: refers to #12 above, can't do th/s/Deer overpopulat/bn /¢
destrOy/hq our hah~tat.
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Tssues for Community Discussion--Presented by the East
Marion Stakeholder at the Public ~[nput Meeting 8/18
Traffic and Road Safety
1. Problem: Traffic moves too quickly along Rt. 25 and is a hazard
to pedestrians and motorists when exiting their cars.
Possible Solutions:
· Reduce speed limit from 55 to 45 on causeway and from 40
to 30 throughout East Marion.
· Direct Police Department to enforce speed limits vigorously.
· Request assistance from Highway Department to
recommend traffic calming devices, such as breakaway
bollards or landscaped mini-medians, which would be
appropriate to East Marion.
· Install residential neighborhood signs to emphasize the
need for slowing down.
2. Problem: Traffic congestion on both sides of Rt. 25 creates
hazardous condition for pedestrians, drivers, and vehicles.
Possible Solutions:
· Make U-turns illegal between Cedar Drive and Boy
Avenue.
· Forbid shoulder parking on south side of Rt. 25 between
Angel's 5tore and the Post Office.
· Identify areas for off-street parking near the Post
Office and Angel's Store.
3. Problem: The ever-increasing Orient Ferry traffic creates
hazards for local residents entering and exiting Rt. 2§.
Possible Solutions: · Require Cross Sound Ferry Company to stagger ferry
traffic.
· Enforce speed limits and issue fines to deter speeding by
late ferry travelers.
· Encourage public transportation to and from the ferry.
· Restrict ability of Cross Sound Ferry Company to expand
the capacity of its boats or frequency of schedule,
4. Problem: The current bus stop location immediately west of
Angel's Store creates a hazard to pedestrians, drivers and
vehicles and occupies needed parking spots for store customers.
Possible Solutions: · Relocate bus stop to the oreo east of the Fire House.
· Create o bus shelter that is in character with the
architecture of the hamlet.
5. Problem: beer population causes automobile accidents on a
regular basis.
Possible Solution: Town to sponsor controlled hunt.
Agriculture and Land Preservation:
1. Problem: Farmland in East Morion is shrinking due to residential
development of vacant land.
Possible Solutions:
·]]dentify parcels for agricultural use and set aside for
preservation, for example, the Kortsolakis property.
Request that Town and/or groups like Peconic Land Trust
approach property owners to save parcels for farming use.
· Zdentify open space suitable for neighbor-friendly farming,
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such os land on Rocky Point Road.
Arrange for mediation between homeowners associations
and other property owners and formers in order to move
land parcels into neighbor-friendly use such os perennial
crops, like strawberries, asparagus, flowers, or organic
formin9.
2. Problem: Proliferation of deer is making farming marginally
viable.
Possible Solution: Town to sponsor controlled hunt.
3. Problem: There is limited bay beach access for the public in
East iAarion.
Possible Solution: Improve existing beach access points, for
example, clear phrogmites from Gillette Drive beach and repair
road end access on Bay Avenue.
Town Relotions/Code Enforcement
1. Problem: The Town did not complete Old Schoolhouse Park
os promised.
Possible Solution: Request the Town to complete the original plan
to include restrooms, fountains, etc.
2. Problem: The Main Rd. used to be graced by large stately
trees. LIPA aggressively over pruned them, several years 09o
killing many trees and causing damage to others.
Possible Solution: Request that Town and its Tree Committee
monitor LIPA to avoid further destruction of trees and require
LIPA to plant more trees.
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3. Problem: Trash pickup in public areas is inadequate.
Possible Solution: Require Town to provide trash containers at
rood ends, public beach access points, the Post Office, and the
causeway and collect and empty them on o more frequent basis
May to October.
4. Problem: There is a lock of local recreation activities for East
Morion children.
Possible 5olution: Encourage the Town Recreation Department
schedule activities et Old Schoolhouse for local children.
5. Problem: Existing codes regarding noise at night and temporary
signs ore not being adequately enforced.
Possible Solution: Require Town to enforce existing codes.
6. Problem: There ore several properties in East Marion where
housing conditions ore substandard.
Possible Solution: The Town must actively monitor these
situations and enforce housing regulations for the health and
safety of residents.
Historic Pteservation and Gateway
t. Problem: There is no central repository of East Marion history
in the area.
Possible Solution: Create o local committee of East Marion
residents to collect historic photographs, documents, oral
histories from long time residents to make our hamlet's history
more accessible to our residents and the greater community.
Possible projects: pamphlet detailing East Marion history, exhibit
for Oysterponds Museum, roadside historic markers documenting
local history.
2. Problem: Some newer homes and businesses on Main Road do
not reflect the historic character of the community.
Possible Solution: Investigate the establishment of historic
district along Main Road.
3. Problem: East Marion lacks o boundary focal point.
Possible Solution: Create well designed gateway signs at entrance
and exit of East Marion.
Feedback from Community Members Who Participated in Public ]:nput
Meeting on August 18, :>007 at the East Marion Firehouse
Strengths of the Proposals from the Stakeholders as identified by
Community Members (Numbers were randomly assigned to the response
sheets prepared by each of the 8 table discussion groups)
Group One
1. Better enforcement of traffic lows.
:>. General report issue analysis is comprehensive and thoughtful.
3. Continue to work with oil groups to preserve farmland.
4. Strict enforcement of noise regulations after llPM at night.
Group Two
1. Police enforcement of speed limit.
2. Stakeholders access to Town Hall and Supervisor (POWER).
3. Land preservation (not commercial development).
5. More consideration for bikers, by staying off bike paths.
6. Land preservation: No Oki-Do Spa on Shipyard Lane to avoid traffic for
restaurant of 300 customers.
7. No commercial development, only one family homes on 2 acre lots.
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8. Sticker Comment: 2 Acre zoning prohibits middle class from moving into
East hlarion. Go for conservation developments, not estate planning.
Group Three
1. Code enforcement.
2. Traffic enforcement.
3, Public support and involvement.
Group Four
1. Look at existing lows and codes.
2. Addressing issues of concerns regarding: traffic speeds and deer
population.
Group Five
1. Good issues identified.
2. Need more detailed investigation of pros and cons.
3. Sticker Comment: No Town Center~
Group Six
1. The proposals ore very good, enforcement is questionable.
2. Some proposals con be accomplished by adding signs - moving bus stops.
3. Adding some sign for prohibited parking and additional parking behind
Fire house.
4. The main strength is that there is overwhelming agreement that speed
limit is too high and enforcement in not adequate.
5. Recognize that Route 2§ was designated as a Scenic Byway, so we should
not waste time with talk of widening the road.
6. Sticker Comment: Agree. N~p discussion of road widening in the bud.
Group Seven
1. Recognizing the need for a unified voice to address the town government.
2. Clear identification and enumeration of problems,
3, Speed limit enforcement [and change],
4. ]Edentification of off-rood parking.
5, All good points about ferry,
6. Move bus stop. No bus shelter,
7. beer? No consensus.
8. Bay Avenue and Gillette brive beach - OK
cp. Farmland solutions - great.
10. St~chef Comment; ~eality Check: There are more deer/n North Amer/ca
today, than there were ih the 18th century/eadl'n!? to p/ant extinct/on.
Group Eight
1. Code enforcement.
2. Law enforcement.
3.5olutions for traffic.
4. Beach access.
5. Agricultural and land preservation.
6. Identified issues.
7. Sticker Comment:/dust be preserved [Beach access]
Other Opportunities Community Members identified for addressing the
problems (Capital letters were randomly assigned to the response sheets
prepared by each of the 8 table discussion groups.)
Group A
1. EoS, Marion Associa,ion.
2. Stakeholders' representation of some Town Government.
3. Town mee,ings with s,onding room only due to proliferation of East
Marion residents!
4. Elections - use your right to vote!
5. Purchase Kortsolakis property.
6. ~qtl~ker Comment: Vote in East/darlbn even if you spend most of your ti)ne
in NY~. £t counts more.
Group B
1. Cut back weeds and foliage to allow for pedestrian passage on sidewalks.
2. Zticker Comments:
a. Keep the bl~ flMture despite our differences.
b. Live w/th wildlife.
c. Organic farm/n.q.
d Better acoustics at meet/m.? ~use microphone2)
e. L£PX must bury power lines.
f. Pest/c/de-free Laws.
~t. N/ce people, n/ce meet/n!~, nice leaders, no consensus on any issues, no
actionable decislbns.
h. LZPX must used certified arborLets for tree prunin_q/
L Elect East/dar/on friendly !7overnment leadership.
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j. Buy waterfront.
k. 5ave public access to shoreline.
/. Great Start!
Group ¢
1. More Code enforcement officers.
2. Change Town Code to fit East Marion's special needs.
3. More public input (like today).
4. Par $ Golf Course, onl8 Acre parcel behind Post Office with walking
paths. Income would pay for improvements. Low fees for residents of
Southold -a Win, Win!
Group D
1. Work with Peconic Land Trus,.
Group E
1. More meetings for future problems.
2. Deer birth control.
3. Suggestion Box.
4. Sticker Comments: [Deer reference a, b/
a. Agree - safer for people than hunting.
b. Deer birth control has been tried and does not work.
c. Prioritize your efforts.
d Enforcement of Southold Town Codes.
Group F
1. Acquire Vacant Land - Kortsolokis property.
2. Harness passion and interest of this group by forming the Citizens' East
Morion Association.
Group G
1. Steering Committee on phrogmitcs in Marion Lake and Gillette Beach.
2. Volunteer committee on traffic enforcement.
3. ¢1¢0r definition and public awareness of the high tide mark for public
access to shoreline.
Group H
1. To be able to vote on these issues.
2. To be aware of political implications.
3. Sticker Comments:
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a. There will be no vote/
b. VG (Very Good)
Group I
1. More public meetings.
2. Letters to Stakeholders.
3. Publicize website for comments.
4. More community involvement.
5. 5ticker comment- VG (Very Good)
Suggestions from Community Members for Making the Stakeholders'
Proposals Better (Double lower case letters were randomly assigned to
the response sheets prepared by each of the 8 table discussion groups.)
Group aa
1. Be more specific.
2. More meetings.
3. East Marion Community Association.
4. Clarification on responsibilities.
~ Sticker &omment- Yes./
Group bb
1. Hove the Police Commissioner, Building Inspector, Representative from
Bus Company, Cross Island Ferry Representative and Town Supervisor
present (meet and/or work together) to help solve problems - or at least
make them aware.
?. Prioritize the issues.
3. Try accomplishing issues that are legally in place and not enforced.
4. A list of issues that need to be enforced - that ore not.
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Group cc
1. Organized communication between stakeholders and residents.
2. Achieve consensus on issues and formally report our positions to the
Town.
3. Handle one issue at a time.
Group dd
1. Protect land.
2. Cameras on Street - State regulations, traffic lights.
3. U-Turn not an issue.
4. Construction
5. Not farming open land.
6. Limit parking.
6. beer birth control.
7. 6arbage cans.
8. 5ticker Uomment: /-/ave each Stakeholder head up issue with study group.
6roup ee
i. Do not widen road (State p,oute 25).
2. F,nforce 30 mph speed limit between (2) traffic calming devices that sit in
the middle of the road.
3. Sign and calming devices at both ends of F,ast Marion, i.e. "ENTF_P,TNG
EASTMAP,]:ON - 5LOW DOWN."
4. Create a Landmark District between calming devices and create an
Architectural p,eview Board.
5. Have LIPA plant trees between calming devices.
6. Install a light in front of Angel's Store and Post Office that is pedestrian
controlled.
7. Prioritize solutions based on feasibility and interest.
8.5ticker Comments:
a. Do not p/ant under power lines again/
b. Alo median, no rotary.
c. Don't w/den road
d Great idea (refers to # 7 above)
e. VG (very good refers to ,¢~! above)
Group ff
1. Alternate methods of control for deer population.
2. Beach access: enforce parking restrictions, especially year round boot
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parking at Gillette Drive Beach.
3. Insistence on law and code enforcement.
4. Vote - by post cards to summer residents to give opinions.
~. Sticker Comments:
a. VG (very good refers to #$ above)
b. exce#ent idea (refers to #4 above)
Group gg
1. Better signoge for bicycle traffic.
2. Single file bike riding.
3. Daily enforcement of traffic lows.
4. For deer control, hire a sharpshooter to professionally reduce and cull
herds of deer.
§. Sticker Comments:
~lith re~lard to comment about deer in #4 above:
o. No/
b. Rea/i'ty Check: There are more deer in North America today than in
the 18th century, and this is/eodx~ to p/ant extinct~bn.
~ ~0 ~OOD/
Group hh
1. More people need to get involved.
2. Sticker Comments:
a. Ruth Ann for Supervisor.
b. Zoin the East A4orion Community Association.
Group ii
1. Enforcement of Traffic Laws.
2. Zmprove Main Rood (Route 2§) and make it safer.
3. Zone for Iow density.
zt. Kill phrogmites especially those situated at the Bay Avenue "bridge" on
Lake Morion.
§. Enforce housing laws to prevent illegal housing.
6.5ticker Comment: P/ease investigate the possibility of changing zoning
Ii/kg Oki-Do] to suit our "values and vision".
Zndividual Comments Submitted Anonymously by Community Members at
the Conclusion of the Public Meeting
i. What Worked: Great Start!
Bringing people together
Mixing up the group
Facilitator- Excellent!
~reat Presentation (Walter, ~Tenny & Ruth Ann)
Willingness to work together
What did not Work:
Acoustics
Too much to digest
People coming late
Peoples' distrustfulness.
2. Well run meeting but hearing the information was o problem.
3. #! priority is speeding traffic on Route 25! The speed limit should be
lowered to 3§ mph through* East Marion and 3§mph on the Causeway
enforced before more children/adults are killed or injured.
*3§mph from blinking light to the Ferry Terminal.
4. Thank you for your efforts on behalf of us all.
5. Create an East Marion Historic District with 30 mph speed limit and
signage along the Main Road (diagram included).
6. Place a median along the Historic District.
7. ]~ thought two and a half hours would be a long meeting, but it moved along
well. Thank you! And ]~ appreciated the comfortable seating.
8. ~[n regard to arranging Mediation_between property owners - it is none
of our/your "Business".
Busing to ferry may facilitate increase of Ferry Services.
Limit use of weapons to diminish deer - bow only - carry carcass off of
property.
Leave Angel's parking alone.
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Southold Hamlet Stakeholders Committee 2007
Prioritized Recommendations
Finalized: November 12, 2007
GENERAL VISION STATEMENT:
"Maintain and enhance our community's "sense of place" and our residential, rural, and historic
character by encouraging mixed, small scale commercial and residential development in our hamlet
center; maintaining the viability of our Main Street as a business district for local entrepreneurs;
promoting diverse housing types in our HALO zone; and ensuring that density within these two
districts is carefully balanced with the preservation of farmland and open space outside their
boundaries."
HIGH PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS
Short Term
Acquire the property adjacent to Town Hall and the post office for municipal uses (e.g. parking,
future Town Hall expansion etc.)
Keep the IGA grocery store in its current location on Main Street or in an alternate location on Main
Street, while also permitting the IGA to approximately double the size of its current store and
provide adequate customer and employee parking
The owner of the Southold IGA grocery store has determined that to remain competitive and
to better serve his customers, he needs to approximately double the size of his current store
while remaining operational during the process. As the anchor store on Main Street, the IGA
supermarket is crucial to the vitality of Southold hamlet's business district. The store's
relocation from Main Street would adversely impact other smaller local businesses in the
hamlet center. Therefore, we urge the Supervisor, Town Board, Planning Board, and Zoning
Board of Appeals to take whatever actions are needed to find a way to allow the IGA to
double its size and provide adequate parking while remaining on Main Street.
Provide incentives for the reuse and adaptive reuse of existing commercial structures as an
alternative to new construction
Prevent accidents, improve pedestrian safety, and reduce traffic impacts:
· ask the NYDOT to implement traffic calming measures in the Hamlet Center between
Boisseau and Tuckers Lane, and to conduct traffic safety evaluations at the intersections of
Main Street and the Civil War Monument and Main Street and Boisseau
· restrict right turn on red at selected intersections such as Main Street and Youngs Avenue
· enforce posted speed limits throughout the Hamlet Center and HALO zone, especially on
Youngs Avenue, Hortons Lane and Main Street
· improve the design and signage at all pedestrian crosswalks throughout the Hamlet Center
and HALO zone, especially at Main Street and Oaklawn Avenue, and add a crosswalk at
Main Street and Beckwith Avenue
· Ask the Town to do an inventory of all existing sidewalks in the hamlet and ask the Highway
Department to budget for a periodic sidewalk inspection program and to regularly repair and
maintain sidewalks in the hamlet center
· add an informal footpath on the east side of Horton Lane from CR. 48 to Main Street
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Create
more affordable housing opportunities (also applies town-wide):
update the code to permit the creation of accessory rental apartments in owner-occupied
principal dwellings built after 1984
legalize the creation of affordable/workforce accessory apartments in HALO zones in
detached accessory buildings (e.g. a garage) on homeowners' property where adequate water,
sewage and parking exists
provide incentives like property tax breaks to owners who create affordable accessory
apartments
provide financial incentives for the rehabilitation of existing residential structures and the
adaptive re-use of existing non-residential buildings for affordable single family, two-family
and multi-family units and mixed commercial and residential uses
Support the Tree Committee's street tree planting program, including the replacement of damaged or
dead trees
Long Term
Preserve and improve the vitality of Main Street as a walkable local business district:
· provide additional strategically located municipal parking with attractive signage, Dark Sky
lighting, landscaping, bike racks and regular maintenance
· investigate the feasibility of diagonal street parking on Main Street
· offer greater flexibility in parking requirements in the site plan review process (e.g. consider
the overall parking as an average in the area instead of parcel by parcel) to encourage diverse
business uses
· provide tax incentives to property owners who rent their buildings at affordable rates to
businesses owned by local entrepreneurs
· encourage walking in the Hamlet Center and HALO zone
· conduct an economic impact study of the downtown area
Support expansion/additions to Southold Free Library that includes additional parking and attractive
community space for performances, lectures, public meetings etc. and restore an entrance to the
library on Main Street
Build a new Town Hall and campus in the existing location
Develop a full service transit hub at the existing railroad station on Travelers Street
· work with the LIRR to improve landscaping and parking around the train station
· meet with County Public Transit and Hampton Jitney to relocate bus stops to better locations
such as the LIRR station
MEDIUM PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS
Short Term
Strictly enforce the Town's signage code and educate business owners about illegal displays and
uses of public rights of way in business zones, especially on Main Street and CR 48
Provide attractive trash and recycling receptacles throughout the hamlet; enforce existing codes for
littering; and encourage the public to pick up litter by offering periodic pickups by the DPW free
of charge (also applies Town wide)
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Increase the intensity of use of Silversmith's comer by adding some small permanent tables and
benches for picnics, playing checkers, chess, cards etc, by scheduling more summer events and
activities, and by adding wireless intemet access
Improve Traveler's Street with shade trees and other landscaping, better parking, a sidewalk on the
south side, and benches and Dark Sky lighting to make it more pedestrian friendly and connected to
the hamlet center and to encourage commercial and municipal development
Long Term
Promote additional housing opportunities within the HALO zone by:
· permitting a diversity of owned and rented dwelling types, including but not limited to
affordable workforce and senior housing, single family homes, townhouses, garden
apartments, multi-family dwellings and accessory apartments
· Allowing densities of 1 residential unit per 10,000 sq. ft. (1/4 acre) in the HALO area where
public water and adequate sewer treatment are available
· Encouraging mixed use residential within business properties in both the hamlet center and
HALO zone
· allowing residential densities of 1 unit per 5,000 sq. ft. (1/8th acre) in the HALO zone in
limited numbers for the purpose of senior or studio apartments or condominiums only,
located within walking distance of public transit and where public water and adequate sewer
treatment disposal are available
· Create a public marina, boat launch, and park at Goldsmith's boat yard at the end of Hobart
Road
LOW PRIORITY RECOMMENDATIONS
Short Term
Improve street signs
Long Term
Create an infrastructure of bike paths and strategically located bike racks.
Develop a network of active walking and jogging paths and trails
Provide incentives to property owners to up-grade existing streetscape attributes
RECOMMENDATIONS THAT APPLY TOWN-WIDE
Short Term
Protect the hamlet's historic landmarks and buildings by supporting the Landmarks Preservation
Committee's request to provide tax incentives for owners of historic building to renovate and
maintain their buildings whether in residential or commercial use
Pass legislation requiring Dark Sky lighting on all new construction and retrofitting pre-existing
construction over a reasonable time frame.
Develop design standards and a town-wide map for wireless communication towers in locations that
do not adversely impact scenic byways, view sheds, residential properties, and natural/working
landscapes
Create a TDR (Transfer of Development Rights) Program to maintain an appropriate balance
between farmland and open space preservation and development in the hamlet centers
Create PDD (Planned Development District) legislation to foster creative mixed use residential and
commercial/retail development that provides public benefits in the hamlet center and HALO
Long Term
Support the purchase of the Peconic School for use as a Town Wide Recreation Center, and plan for
a future addition to include an indoor public swimming pool facility, walking and jogging tracks,
and other recreational amenities
Develop design guidelines for affordable housing that reinforce local residential scale and historic
precedents
Develop desig~ guidelines and standards that prohibit commercial sprawl, emphasize human scale,
create pedestrian connectivity and respects historic precedents and typologies in Hamlet Centers
and HALO zones
Energy and environmental conservation:
· Investigate the use of wind, solar and other energy saving technologies for municipal
facilities;
· change street lamps to energy efficient technologies and historically appropriate styles
· investigate the feasibility of alternate sewage systems like chromaglass for existing business
areas
· Provide incentives for the construction of energy efficient residential design located within
walking distance to public transit in HALO zones
Implement a town-wide "dial-a-ride" car/van service and or the use of school busses for affordable
local transportation
Preserve and support the working landscape and the hamlets' traditional industries
Encourage burying of overhead utility lines
Provide job opportunities for young people
PECONIC STAKEHOLDERS - PLANNING .BOARD MEETING
July 2, 2007 ~.
Dave Clchanowlcz, Sara Evans, Hugh Sw~
Present.
Pr,orities:
· Senior Citizen/Rec~eation.~nter- eyesor~ "ug~
shed' do something as ~t ~s not compatible
character of the hamlet
· Sidewalks-root systems of overgrown trees
deteriorated the sidewalks throughout the h~~~
be repaired. Consider possible extension of sidewalks
north and south of Tusker Park and Cochran Park (to be
determined by the general public).
· Parks-Parking in Cochran Park needs to be more efficient,
paved lot with lines. Request placement of permanent
restrooms in Cochran Park with an addition of a
concession stand that can be leased from the Town. Some
consistent and sensible policy needs to be implemented
for lights in Cochran and Tusker Parks. Requested
meeting with Recreation and Dept. Public Works.
· Bus stop (S-92 & Hampton Jitney) due to poor sightline to
pull out of Peconic Lane, suggest moving it in front of the
Highway building/First Class Auto shop and provide kiosk
to shelter persons waiting.
· Peconic School-strongly favor the Town's purchase to use
building and grounds for non-recreational use (e.g.
community garden). Stakeholders wish to be involved in
the planning process for the School.
· Post office area-Dickerson Excavating suggested
decorative retaining wall with natural stone planting to
amend the severe drop in elevation across from Post office
where people park to get their mail/go to bakery. This
design could be mirrored in parking lot with broken rail
across the street.
Stakeholders will notify public of future meeting via postal
patron mailing to 11958 zip code.
New Suffolk Hamlet Stakeholders
PO Box 24
New Suffolk, NY 11956
June 8,2007
Jerilyn B. Woodhouse, Chairwoman
Southold Town Planning Board
Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
Chief Carlisle Cochran
Southold Town Police Department
PO Box 911
Peconic, NY 11958
ssell. Supervisor
~w.p.of Southo d
· Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
Long Island Power Authority
Charlie Hicks
117 Doctor's Path
Riverhead, NY 11901
We New Suffolk stakeholders are preparing a letter to the Southold Town Planning Board
outlining our responses to the Hamlet Stakeholders report. There are three critical safety
problems in our hamlet, however, that rise above normal priorities and we feel it necessary
to make you all aware of them as soon as possible.
Overhead wires. Overhead electrical wires at both the town boat ramp at the end of
Jackson Street and also at the end of Old Harbor Road, constitute a dangerous and
defective situation and present a potentially lethal hazard to people launching sailboats in
these two locations. At the town boat ramp, people launch sailboats with aluminum masts
tall enough to contact the live electrical wires overhead. Similarly, the Old Cove Yacht Club
youth sailing program launches, its sailboats from their facility at the end of Old Harbor
Road. Although thankfully r~o incidents have yet occurred, we feel it is just a matter of time
before there is a tragedy. ~
We therefore request you immediately place warning signs at these two locations,
notifying users of the overhead hazard from sailboat masts touching these wires. We also
request you immediately initiate projects to either place these overhead electrical wires
underground or reroute them in such a way so as to not cause a hazard to sailboat
launching activities. These projects must be given the highest possible priority, consistent
with the dangerous and defective situations they will correct.
Vehicular speed. Vehicles throughout the Town of Southold travel too fast for conditions
and well above posted speed limits. We feel this town-wide problem is especially
hazardous in New Suffolk, because our hamlet is mostly residential, relatively densely
populated with few sidewalks, and is a popular walking and bicycling destination. In
summer, this problem is exacerbated by the popularity of our public beaches and boat
ramp. Also, during the week, construction crews routinely speed through our hamlet's
residential streets and on weekends, the tourists add to the problem.
We therefore request you take immediate action to increase police surveillance of speed
limits in our hamlet and place additional 30 MPH speed limit signs on all major streets, but
mainly on New Suffolk Avenue and New Suffolk Road. As part of the long term solution,
we request you investigate the use of so-called "traffic-calming" devices and procedures
in our hamlet.
Parking issues, Over the past two years, the use of the New Suffolk town beach, as well
as our many end-of-street public beaches by non-residents has increased significantly. Our
town boat ramp has also become increasingly popular with non-resident boaters. Beach
and boat ramp users are parking along our hamlet's streets, disturbing the serenity of our
neighborhoods and often creating safety issues. As these crowds increase, so will vehicle
accidents, pedestrian injuries, and "interpersonal alternations" generated by the density of
vehicles and people trying to use these public facilities will increase. Our two main issues
are: 1. Our peaceful little hamlet is being spoiled by people without beach stickers who
park in our neighborhoods and then walk to the public beaches and, 2. There are more
boat ramp users than there is adequate parking for them, adding large vehicles with trailers
to this parking-in-neighborhoods problem.
In light of the above, and similar to the recommendations regarding speed, we request
you provide increased police surveillance of the posted parking areas in New Suffolk and
also surveillance of the proper access to beach and boat ramp areas - put simply, please
enforce existing beach sticker and boat ramp use rules. We also request you provide
additional "No Parking without Southold Town Permit" signs along the streets leading to
our "end of street" beaches, set a limit on how many boat trailers may be parked in the
boat ramp area, and prohibit parking boat trailers on neighborhood streets. Finally, we
request the Town set a numerical limit on the number of vehicles that can use the New
Suffolk public beach and boat ramp facilities. One option could be to make some of the
hamlet's beaches "for New Suffolk residents only."
We, the stakeholders of the Hamlet of New Suffolk, wish to thank you for your thou i ~ i
consideration of these matters. We hope the Town of Southold agencies and the Long
Island Power Authority will give our requests their immediate attention.
i~ue~ls, Chairman
Representing the stakeholders: Joan Robbins, Michael Simon, Gerry Schultheis, Brian
Andrews, Klm Petrie, Pat Mclntyre, Stephan Roussan, Jim Baker
Copies sent to:
Old Cove Yacht Club, c/o Deborah Carroll, PO Box 213, New Suffolk, NY 11956
Peter Harris, Superintendent of Highways, Town of Southold, Highway Dept., Peconic
Lane, Peconic, NY 11958
..C. UTCHOGUE STAKEHOLDERS - PLANNING BOARD M."ETIN~'
July 2, 2007
Present: Jane Minerva, Bill Gatz, Fred Carcich, Georgeanna
Fogarty
They have met 4 times with 2 public meetings that drew several
members from the general public, including Chamber of
Commerce that is amenable to their ideas.
Priorities:
· Provided typed list of Priorities, mostly short-term. YheY
will further append the list.
Other:
· Question whose responsibility to take care of sidewalks on
Route 25.
· Would like to review codes and zoning with the intent to
foster converting illegal apartments into legal apartments.
· Due to the major impact of density of the Heritage, the 14
affordable units could be the hamlet's contribution to
affordable housing.
· Want to m. eet with Planning Dept. to review HALO/hamlet
center build-out. Also want to review water main map.
· Wish to. em. phasize that Village Green is not. p~.~ark.~Di~]~t
but mmntalned through.volunt~.~.~,.~~*-
· Would like to consider oppo~umt~~~ f~r~.
June 25, 2007
MEMORANDUM ~.,u..~..c,- ~
To: Town of Southold Planning Board [,'''''3v'~-' // /
From: Mattituck Stakeholders
Subject: Mattituck Planning Priorities
As per the request of the~3: arming Board, the Mattituck Stakeholders prioritized the short
term steps needed_~o~i~plement the long term goals for Mattituck's future development described
in the Hamlet Study, dated June 2005.
These tasks are the first steps toward achieving the goals of 1 ) 're-attaching' the north and south '~\,'~
en(~s o! Love Lane to the hamlet center and 2) managing Mattituck's future development to ~'-'
maintain and enhance the hamlet center and open spaces· . ,-,o
Short Term Priority Task Summary ~.~v''-'~, ~"~,~'~
1. Develop acquisition plan for a Mattituck Village Green on the properties South of Rt25 at
Love Lane, east from New Suffolk Ave.
Task Suffolk County Health Dept. to develop sewerage plan covering Mattituck Hamlet
HALO and open areas that allows increased density in the Hamlet and HALO.
3. Traffic Safety Calming Measures for Rte 25 and Route 48 ~,~ C~ ~'*'"',
a. Press County to execute Traffic Circle plan immediately for Rt 48 and Cox Neck Rd~ ~; v,\\
intersection. ~,~ x-,.'¢
b. Plan to Reduce Rt 48 to single lane between Cox Neck Rd and Wickham ~'"'~~'~ ~'' ?~"~"'~'~
c. Plan Traffic Circle/Island option for Main Rd and Love Lane intersection~' ~ ~ ~r~'- j [.,~,,.,'
4. Evaluate plan for a Community Pavillion situated at the base of Mattituck Creek for the use
local residents and transient boaters.'~-) ~'~ ~
Short Term Priority Tasks
Mattituck Village Green
Develop Town acquisition plan for a Mattituck Village Green on the propedies South of Rt25 at
Love Lane, east from New Suffolk Ave, that surround and include the North Fork Environmental
Council building.
These vacant or under-utilized properties signifcantly affect the future character and development
of the Mattituck hamlet - they are 'keystone' properties to the future of Love Lane. The Town
should develop a plan to acquire this properties for the Green over time as they become available
to the market.
Once purchased by the Town, all structures should be removed from the properties, except for
the NFEC building which can provide washroom and utility space.
The open space of the Green may be complemented by the development of the large "L" shaped
parcel into mixed-use or town houses.
Sprawl and Health Requirements
The present septic requirements force housing development in Mattituck's open spaces. Unless
new methods are found that meet health department requirements supporting greater density
within the hamlet and HALO, only 'new', open land will support present septic health standards.
The Mattituck Stakeholder's request that the Town Planning Board task the Suffolk County Health
Department to develop sewerage options for Mattituck that permit increased housing density
within Hamlet and HALO.
Traffic Safety Calming Measures
Press the county highway department to execute a traffic circle plan immediately for the
Route 48 and Cox Neck Road intersection(s).
The present stop-gap arrangement is confusing and unsafe by it's location, which
unnecessarily forces congestion at the transition from a 2-lane country highway
to a 4-lane interstate highway.
Develop plan to Reduce Route 48 to single lane between Cox Neck Rd and Wickham
Ave.
By moving the lane reduction point from Cox Neck Road to Wickham Ave several
large benefits are achieved.
Safer - both approches to Wickham Ave are more open, with greater
driver visibility
· Safer- 2-lane traffic speeds will naturally be controlled through the now-
multiple traffic lighted section of Route 48.
Mattituck is enhanced. The hamlet can be 're-attached' to the Creek.
See Community Pavillion below.
· Land formerly used by 2 lanes of the highway can be used as a public
greenway, particularly enhancing Strawberry Fields.
Evaluate Traffic Circle/Island options for Main Rd and Love Lane intersection (See
Village Green picture)
In order to 're-attach' the south side of Main Road to the Love Lane business
district, safe pedestrian access is required. A Town and State Highway
Department evalutation for a traffic circle or 'island' at the intersection is required,
with the purpose of providing attractive, safe pedestrian friendly solution.
Community Pavillion
The Town and Mattituck parks on Rt 48 located at the base of Mattituck Creek have greater utility
and potential for public activities than their present use. These parks fit neatly into the propects
of 're-attaching' the hamlet to the water and the Stakeholders recommend that the appropriate
Park commissioners and trustees meet to discuss the options for greater public use of the
property.
The goals are to encourage greater access to the hamlet (see Rt 48 reduction to 2-lanes) by all
boaters and to support boating activities and eduction, while also maintaining one of the existing
ramps for trailered vessels.
First to consider is the construction of a pavillion and/or promenade for public use on the
properties. Numerous funding vehicles are available from federal and state sources.
Minor "Footnote" Recommendations
In addtion to the more strategic planning steps above, several recommendations for immediate
improvement to Mattituck are presented.
Complete extension of Love Lane sidewalk north to Mattituck Creek ...
Prohibit car sales on Main Road (Rt 25; e.g. NFB)
Develop Town-wide tree code to manage this important asset
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SHORT TERM IMPLEMENTATION PROJECTS
implement recommendations of the Town of Southold Scenic Corridor Plan
Enforce building codes to improve Route 25 scenic corridor
Require that dormant Hampton Jitney buses parked along Route 25 be relocated
Facilitate a 3-color traffic light at the intersection of CR 48 and Main Rd/RT 25 Greenport
Establish walking/biking/sea trails/kayak trails throughout the Hamlet & link to other Hamlets
Consider installing a "signalized crosswalk/pedestrian crossing" sign in the vicinity of7-11 on Rt. 25
Enforce "blight" regulations and lean up trash, old cars, sheds, garbage on lots in Village west of7-11
Draft legislation/enforce codes/levy increased fines & penalties for clear cutting properties; interface with
Town Tree Committee
Vista protection code legislation
LONG TERM IMPLEMENTATION PROJECTS
Develop a well-designed gateway on Route 25 east of the Village
Safety regulations/traffic turning/plans for North Road at Soundview Restaurant
Install sidewalks on one side of Route 25
Provide adequate parking for residential and commercial development
Preserve scenic vistas with native plantings and maintain them
Preserve the natural landscape and creme 75'-100' buffers along the Hamlet's main roads
Rely on a strong Architectural RB to ensure that new construction blends into the fabric of the Hamlet
Explore methods to break-up the continuous strings of ferry traffic
Explore traffic calming measures along the North Road*
Evaluate all sight impediments at driveways and intersections
Provide S-92 bus service on Sundays*
Bury overhead utilities (for new construction projects)
Minimize light pollution
Design natural drainage basins
Require on-site storm water control and permeable natural surfaces
Maintain road end beaches and preserve public access to such beaches
Use regulations should be consistent between all Town beaches/parks; enforce parking permits
Support Greenport tourism, and the Hamlet's traditional industries, year-round businesses and
attractions
Consider a public swimming pool, possibly on land owned by the Town/County
Protect buildings on the SPLIA List and seek State and Federal Registry listing, where appropriate
The burden of affordable housing should be shared among the Hamlets
Facilitate affordable housing through legal, code compliant accessory apartments
Consider an Affordable Housing Amnesty Program
Preserve open space by concentrating development in the HALO/Hamlet Center
Accelerate the purchase of development rights & open space outside of the HALO/Hamlet Centers
Protect and preserve the Hamlet's wetland resources
Hold a competition to design bus shelters; Install conveniently Iocatedpublic bus shelters
Publicize public transportation
Connect the Village to the Halo Zone areas with sidewalks
Integrate new roads in subdivisions with existing roadways; avoid cul-de-sacs
Provide public bus service along North Road
Extend train service to expand public transit
Improve coordination of S-92 bus schedules with Shelter Island and Cross Sound ferries
To: Town of Southold Planning Board
From: Orient Stakeholders Committee
Date: 08/01/07
RE: Talking Points for the Meeting of the ORIENT STAKEHOLDERS
Committee and the PLANNING BOARD of the Town of Southold planned for
August 6, 2007 at 6:30 pm.
Chair of Orient Stakeholders Committee: Margaret Minichini
Secretary: Rona Smith
The following priorities have been identified by the Orient Stakeholders committee and
are culled from the original Stakeholder recommendations of 2005. We look forward to
meeting with the Planning Board to discuss implementation of these various
recommendations.
Short Term Priorities
I. Open Space Preservation / Gateway Property / Pedestrian Circulation
(Maureen Cullinane, Jim Latham, Reggie Tuthill, Glynis Berry)
Preservation of open spaces is a priority as it is this open space that defines the character
of the Hamlet.
Stakeholders recommend:
preserving the "Gateway" property (east of Latham's farm stand).
preserving existing contiguous open land.
preserving open space adjacent to wetlands and water, vays.
Additionally Stakeholders are interested in exploring a system of pedestrian trails
through fields in undeveloped areas similar to farm roads throughout the Hamlet from
Bay to Sound and would like to understand how this might work through private
properties (are easements are possibility?)
1I. Vehicular Circulation / Traffic Calming (Rona Smith, Glynis Berry)
Stakeholders concerns are the speed and volume of traffic along Rt. 25 especially from
Platt Road, past the firehouse / school area through to the causeway. This area
experiences the heaviest confluence of pedestrians, bicycles and turning cars. Posted
speeds change several times along this short stretch and vehicles do not seem to be aware
of entering a reduced speed zone, especially around the school.
Stakeholders recommend as a starting point:
Use of non-aggressive traffic calming methods such as painting lines for narrower
lanes, using different color paint or material in the verge lanes, moving lanes, and
crosswalks.
Additional recommendations will be discussed with Planning Board at our meeting (i.e.:
reducing speed on causeway, LED speed limit signs, narrow median, traffic enforcement
camera, etc.)
Stakeholders are interested in understanding which governmental bodies can make
decisions to implement the various recommendations.
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IlL The Working Landscape / Storm water Runoff (Keri Christ, Reggie Tuthill)
The original Stakeholder recommendation for the Working Landscape suggested
preserving and supporting the Hamlet's traditional industries, including the maritime
industry, agriculture, and tourism. Stakeholders have concern about storm water runoff
in several areas of Orient. The runoff degrades the health of our bays, ponds, creeks, and
wetlands, as well as groundwater, endangering those very industries we wish to preserve.
Stakeholders immediate concerns are
Additional sites in Orient that are not part of the Town of Southold's current list
of Storm water Mitigation projects.
Understanding the Town's criteria for setting priorities in the current Storm water
Mitigation projects.
Exploring catch basins in problem areas that Stakeholders have identified.
Understanding the town goals and priorities of the LWRP.
IV. Human Scale / Streetscape / Infrastructure / Maintenance / Pedestrian
Circulation / Historic Resources
Sidewalk Repair / Lighting (Janet Markarian, Linton Duell)
Original Stakeholders recommended fostering a human scale that would encourage
pedestrian activity. In addition, the Hamlet of Orient is now home to the majority of
structures designated in the Historic Preservation Committee's list for the Town of
Southold. Befitting a community of such distinction, Stakeholders would like to see the
following issues addressed:
Road repair of Village Lane
Sidewalk and curb repair along Village Lane
Repair to street lighting in the Hamlet
Exploration of alternate street lighting that would be of a style more consistent
with the Historic Preservation designation, and that would also be more efficient in
projecting light down on the street and sidewalk where needed.
In addition to these obvious points of infrastructure, Stakeholders would like to see
support from the Town of Southold for preservation of the historic buildings within the
Hamlet Center, such as Poquatuck Hall and the buildings of the Orient Historical Society.
V. Public Forum (Ted Webb, Deborah Dumont, Priscilla Bull)
As recommended by the Town, the Stakeholders are planning a public forum at
Poquatuck Hall on Saturday, September 8th. The goal of the forum will be to educate the
Orient community about the Stakeholders Committee, to discuss recommendations of the
Stakeholders, and solicit feedback from Community members.
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Following are recommendations that have a longer time frame for resolution, or
have an ongoing component, or require legislative action. Some of these overlap
with Short-term priorities, as there may be a component that can be addressed in
the short term.
Long Term Priorities
1. Vehicular Circulation / Public Transportation: Ferry traffic and parking
2. Working Landscape: Wetlands Restoration / Environmental Monitoring
3. Open Space Preservation (GATEWAY)/Accelerated Development Rights
4. Housing: Accessory Apartment legislation
5. Streetscape: Hamlet Design Parameters and Historic Preservation Commission
6. Preserving Historic Resources
7. Enterprise: Keep Post Office in Hamlet Center/Allowable business use in HB
New issues: Signage on Rt 25 / Disaster Preparedness
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To: Town of Southold Planning Board
From: Orient Stakeholders Committee
Date: October 22, 2007
RE: Requests for Action
ORIENT STAKEHOLDERS Committee
with the Planning Board on Monday, October 29 at 6:15pm.
Chair of Orient Stakeholders Committee: Margaret Minich~ni~ (~'0t
Secretary: Rona Smith
On September 8, 2007 in Poquatuck Hall, the Orient Stakeholders Committee
held its first Public Forum meeting. The number of Orient residents in attendance was
approximately 130 people. The meeting was conducted from 10:00am to 1 l:00am and
followed by a video. The video was an oral history of Orient.
The Public Forum presentation discussed the origins of the Stakeholder
committee, its recent manifestation, and its goals. The priorities (those previously
discussed with the Planning Board in August) were reviewed. Questions were taken.
The written questions are included here. There is also a compilation of the topics
addressed in the written questions. (Attachment 1 and Attachment 2)
The residents were also asked to complete a survey at the end of the presentation.
The results of that survey are included here with a basic analysis. (Attachment 3)
Lastly, those present were polled on their thoughts about Accessory Apartments.
The results of that poll are included here. (Attachment 4a and 4b)
Overall the Public Forum reinforced the priorities previously presented by the
Orient Stakeholders Committee.
The Stakeholders Committee met after the Public Forum to discuss the results of
the survey. A newsletter was written and mailed to the residents of Orient. (Attachment
5)
The Orient Stakeholders Committee requests response on specific actions as
outlined below.
Request that Southold Town open discussion with the property
owner(s) to discuss preservation of the "Gateway" property east of
Latham's farm stand.
Regarding Traffic Cahning
a. Request enforcement of the speed limit by Sonthold Town along Route
25 in the area from the Causeway east to Platt Road.
b. Can the planning board identify responsible town or state bodies
responsible for making decisions on other traffic cahning measures
such as LED speed signs, changing speed limit aloug Causeway, etc.
Regardiug Storm Water run-off:
Request that Orient Storm water run-off sites be added to the
Southold Town storm water mitigation plan and other requests as stated in
Attachment 6, a letter from Keri Christ on behalf of the Orient
Stakeholders Committee to the Planning Board.
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Regarding Open Space vistas - many questions were brought up at the
Public Forum meeting regarding the telephone/utility poles along the
Causeway. Who would be responsible for a decision on putting utility
lines underground? Many residents also consider this a traffic safety
issue.
Based on the Accessory Housing questionnaire, open a discussion on
accessory housing legislation changes to facilitate affordable housing
in Southold Town.
Regarding Streetscape
In a discussion on streetscape, the idea of a change to more energy
efficient and reliable street lighting in the Orient Hamlet was brought
up. Identify the responsible town department for further discussion of
this.
Is there a town-wide plan for repair / repaying of sidewalks, and streets
or is it attended to based on requests of citizens in the Hamlet?
The Orient Stakeholders Committee looks forward to some resolution on these
items at our upcoming meeting.
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Orient Stakeholders Public Forum
Submitted Questions Sep 8, 2007
Traffic
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(6 questions)
Can we please extend the traffic calming to the BEGINNING of Orient (by the
Crab Shack?) Speed has contributed to one near fatal accident and makes entry
and egress to the road VERY DANGEROUS ! - Ceil Sharman (or even as far as E
Marion "race-way" - up to Mattituck all is slower than 55)
Can speed bumps be placed on Village Lane & Youngs Rd?
Oysterponds School parents have proposed an increased fine (double) for
speeding in front of school to state legislators. Will committee consider?
What is proposed for slowing down traffic on Village Lane/King Street?
In the traffic discussions, can you also consider Village Lane itself? The speed
limit is 30, which seems much too fast for a residential zone with small kids. -
reduce speed limit? - install speed bumps?
Need to also discuss Orient's other business district at Route 25 + Platt Road - a
dangerous intersection *Orient Service Center + fuel business *Delicious (what
permits for hours, what they sell * Ed Wysocki's auto repair - what happens
when he retires, which he's likely to do * Andrade business
Open Space / Gateway (6 questions) 1. What is the outlook for preserving as open space the land to the south and east of
Latham's farm stand?
2. In addition to the "Gateway Parcel" are there other properties identified by
conmfittee for preservation? Any different from Town list?
3. Gateway Issue - Is there a possibility that the fire dept will increase the height of
the Cell Tower?
4. How many properties are directly affected by these discussions? Timing?
5. Can we put pressure on county preservation fund for more $$ for Orient /
Southampton vs. Southold
6. RE: Open Space - You mention "east" of Farm stand - Doesn't it also go west of
farmstand somewhat?
Utility Poles on Causeway (4 questions)
1. Are you considering the impact of the poles on the causeway? - Dick Leslie
2. Scenic Highway Issue - What are plans (options) for clean up causeway of phone
& electric poles.
3. Utility poles along the causeway - they are (or appear to be) extremely fragile - It
would take far less than hurricane strength wind to cause a power outage for
everyone east of the causeway - one pole in particular is propped up in sand - can
these wires - at least~ be put underground?
4 Just exactly what is "too much" money - concerning the causeway utility lines?
How many times do the utility poles need to break in a sto~n or traffic accident to
equal the cost of putting them below grade to begin with?
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Forum Questions
Water Issues (3 questions)
1. Open Space Preservation or Open Waterways - What is underway to preserve all
the presently existing ponds other waterways in their present condition (ie
undeveloped surroundings).
2. What about drinking water issues town water/well water??
3. I keep uoticing a sewer smelljust before entering the causeway. What's up?
Sidewalks & Lighting (2 questions)
1. Sidewalks along Rte 25 from across from Crab Shack to Buttonwood tree very
uneven and hazardous. Who pays for repair? Who speaks to property owners
about trimming hedges to make mom passable? - Ceil Sharman
2. If lighting is changed to provide better safety / hazard protection as well as
~reatin~ lighting that "fits" traditionally with the hamlet's theme, I think it is
nnperanve to allocate funds to install solar powered lighting which will pay off in
the long run.
Affordable Housing (2 questions)
l. What has the discussion been about Halo Zone and subsequent development /
affordable housing?
2. Andy Rurorde - Fire Conmfissioner - How do we provide affordable housing for
young people so that we have people/volunteers for our fire dept and basic
service?
Historic District (2 questions)
1. Can homeowners within the historic district alter their houses, or must they keep
them exactly as they are?
2. Is the planning board or town going to make rulings about the size of a house that
can be built on property?
Plum Island (2 questions)
1. Is the proposed upgrade to Plum Island BSL-4 being considered by committee?
2. There is the possibility that the Homelaud Security Dept would upgrade Plum
Island to BSL-4. What do the stakeholder thiuk about evacuation, terrorist threat
+ hmnan safety.
Misc (3
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What are our legal rights within Southo]d Township?
Survey not structured same as short term priorities why?
Miriam Bissu - What efforts are being made to improve conditions in Orient
Point? We sharc many of the same concerns: traffic from the ferry, road repair,
working storm drains, noise control, ferry parking on road
Public Forum Questions
8-Sep-07~-
~' ~Topic
# of Questions submitted
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pen Space/Gateway
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6
Utility Poles on Causewa~
Sidewalks & Lighting
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3
'Affordable Housing
Historic District
Plum Island
misc
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ORIENT STAKEHOLDERS SURVEY RESULTS
Raw Results
Priorities 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Total
Responses
Open Space Preservation 31 12 10 8 0 0 0 0 0 61
Gateway Property 10 19 I1 5 6 2 2 1 0 56
Pedestrian Trails 0 1 0 4 6 9 5 8 25 58
Vehicular Circulation 1 4 6 12 8 5 5 7 5 53
Traffic Calming 17 12 13 6 4 2 6 1 3 64
Working Landscape/ Storm 2 9 9 9 4 9 7 4 4 57
Water
Streetscape 0 0 4 4 8 10 15 9 5 55
Infrastructure 1 7 1 8 7 8 8 8 8 56
Historic Resources 0 3 9 8 10 10 8 2 4 54
Methodology: All 64 submitted surveys were tallied by item and rank. When
respondents placed a series of l's next to all the items they considered important; these
responses were disregarded. When respondents placed checks by all the items, these
responses were disregarded. When respondents ranked only a few of the choices,
responses were noted; this explains the uneven number of responses per question.
Basic Analysis: The table displays an interesting picture of what is important to
respondents and what is less important. Open Spacc Preservation is the top priority and
the single item where all respondents named it as one of their top 4 priorities. In fact,
48% of the respondents marked Open Space Preservation most important and 82% listed
it as one of their top 3 priorities. Other categories had combination responses of
important and not important. If we isolate the top three issues: 83% of respondents
indicated Open Space, 65% of respondents indicated Traffic Calming and 46% indicated
Gateway Property. Pedestrian trails are not important related to the other items.
25 September 2007
Orient Stakeholders
Public Meeting: September 8, 2007
Accessory Housing Questionnaire:
Accessory Housing is defined here as housing, usually an apartment, appended to a
residential property also housing the owner(s)
1. Do you think accessory Apartments should be legal in Orient?
2. Would you consider adding such a unit to your house?
3. Would you require funding assistance to make the necessary changes to your
home?
4. Are there repairs/upgrading that your home needs that could be accomplished if
funding was available?
5. If you would like to discuss this possibility, please include your name and phone
number and we'll get in much to discuss.
YES/#,%
NO/#,%
ORIENT HAMLET STAKEHOLDERS
SUMMARY: ACCESSORY HOUSING QUESTIONNAIRE
Meeting: September 8, 2007
Meeting attendee a=120
Number of completed questionaires=27; percentage=23%
"Should accessory apts be legal?"
18 (67%)
7 (26%)
Would you consider add;rig one? .... Need fund'ng assistance? .... Need repairs? .... Want to discuss?"
11 (41%) 4 (15%) 9 (33%) 8 (30%)
16 (59%) 14 (52%) 8 (30%) NA
.A. large majority of respondents (67%) fav,oored accessory hous ng as a legal use. Of
Imese positive respondents, a majority (59 Yo) did not indicate any self-interest; that is,
they were not interested, personally, in adding accessory units to their own homes.
Autumn 2007
UPDATE
From the
Orient Stakeholders Committee
Interested Residents Crowd Poquatuck Hall
The Orient Stakeholders Committee thanks all 130 of our neighbors who were in
attendance at the first Public Forum meeting held on Saturday morning, September 8th. it was
very heartening to see such a great turnout! The Stakeholders Committee has reviewed your
comments, questions, and surveys and you will see the results of the survey reported here.
Overall we found that as a community, we all share the same concerns about maintaining the
character of Orient. Preserving Open Space, Protecting the Gateway property, and Traffic
Concerns topped the list. We will be bringing the results of the survey and your comments to the
Planning Board on
Monday, October 29t~ at 6:15 pm at Southold Town Hall,
This planning board meeting is open to the public, so feel free to attend if you are available.
I'n addition to the survey of your priorities, there were 30 questionnaires returned about
Accessory Housing. The comments indicate that people feel this is an area that needs further
exploration, especially as one of the ways affordable "next generation" housing might be
provided, but that it must be carefully regulated.
As we all know, the devil is in the details, but having some consensus on what is
important to the residents of Orient helps point us (and the Town) in the right direction. In the
coming months we will be exploring the options available to tackle these complicated issues. We
will report back to you after the Planning Board meeting and let you know when we will be
holding our next Stakeholders Public Forum.
-The Orient Stakeholders Committee
Streetlights and Sidewalks
If you notice a streetlight that is' not working,
Janet Markarian reports that you can contact
James I~lct4ahon with Southold Town to have
it repaired.
Tel no. is 631~765-1283
Emaih james, mcmahon@town.southold.ny, us
For broken sidewalk problems, Linton Duell
reports that you can contact Curt Davids, the
Deputy Superintendent for Highways for
Southold Town.
Curt Davids can be reached at 631-734-5211
Got e-Talent?
Your comments and thoughts are
always welcome. If there is anyone
who would like to explore establishing a
Blog for comments and communication
to/from the Stakeholders Committee,
please contact Margaret Minichini
(email: pitch36025@mypacks.net )
October 23, 2007
Keri A. Christ, Esq.
22715 Main Road
Orient N.Y. 11957
E-mail: kachrlstO rcn.com
Mark Terry
Principal Planner, LWRP Coordinator & Acting Planning Director
Town Hall Annex Building
54375 Route 25/P.O. Box 1179
Southold NY 11971-0959
Dear Mark,
Re: Stormwater Management in Orient
I am writing to you on behalf of the Orient Han~let Stakeholders group. We wish to make
the Planning Board aware of certain stormwater run-off problems in Orient and request
that the Town of Southold take steps to address some of the problems that we have
identified. We are also interested in obtaining certain other information from the Town
which we have highlighted below.
As you know, the groundwater and surface water in and Orient have been stressed by
septic systems, agricultural chemicals and fertilizers, and an increasing volume of vehicle
and track traffic using the ferry at Orient Point. At this time these sources of water
pollution are mostly unregulated. The ferry operation, which is now substantially larger
than it has ever been, has grown incrementally, and consequently no SEQRA
environmental review was ever required by NY State or the Town. The ferry traffic
contributes substantially to the particulate matter and air pollution that is absorbed by the
surface and ground waters in and around Orient as stormwater runoff.
Given Orient's unique status as a national historic district containing several New York
State- designated "Critical Enviromnental Areas," and given that the community relies
upon ground water from wells for its drinking water, we believe that Orient's stormwater
runoffproblems should be given some priority within the Town.
Problem Areas/Priorities. On July 17, 2007, Heather Cusack faxed to me a document
entitled "Storm Water Runoff Mitigation Project." This is a listing of storrnwater
projects in Southold, being worked on by the Highway Department and Pete Harris,
according to Heather. It includes the following two projects fbr Hallock's Bay in Orient:
Keri A. Christ, Esq.
22715 Main Road
Orient N.Y. 11957
E-mail: kachrist~ rcn.corn
(1) HB-1 Runofffrom 25 goes to Recharge Basin. Overflow from the
Basin is a Culvert running under Route 25 and empties into a drainage
ditch that empties into Hallock's Bay. (Priority=2); and
(2) HB-2 Runoff from Route 25 (+/- 800 ft east of Narrow River
Road) enters the wetland through a Drainage Ditch and a Culvert to
Hallock's Bay. (Prior/ty=4).
We note that there are far more stormwater projects listed for other hamlets in
Southold. We would like to understand the Town's criteria for including projects in the
current list, as well as the Town's crlteria for setting priorities for these projects. In
addition, we would like to obtain detailed descriptions and any associated maps and
diagrams associated with these projects, and understand their relationship to the ones
we have identified on the attached maps.
In addition to these two areas, several other problem areas have been identified by the
Hamlet Stakeholders. Areas in and around Hallock's Bay are indicated on the attached
map. In addition, Village Lane has significant stormwater runoff problems which are
impairing Orient Harbor. We would like the Town to investigate these areas, and
conduct an overall stormwater assessment in Orlen~ We would also like a copy of the
existing inventory of all drains, pipes, etc. which Heather Cusack identified.
Funding. We understand that funding may be available for stormwater remediation
through the following sources:
(1) Local Waterfront Revitalization Plan ("LWRP") for watershed management
plans, including stormwater projects;
(2) New York State Dept of Transportation;
(3) the Peconic Estuary program; and
(4) New York State Heritage Area Program/NYS Parks, Recreation and Historic
Preservation
We would like to know whether the Town has applied for any funding for stormwater
management and remediation, and whether any of these funds will be allocated for
OrienL We would also like to understand the Town 's priorities and goals with respect
to the LWRP, and we would like to be considered for funding through the L~VRP.
According to Steve Ridler, Bureau Chief Local and Reg/onal Programs, there is $23
million available this year, and the deadline to apply is November 30, 2007.
We also understand that Southold may be required under EPA Phase II regulations to
undertake storm water mitigation. The final Impaired Waterbodies report issued in July
2007 by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation continues to
Keri K Christ, Esq.
22715 Main Road
Orient N.Y. 11957
E-mail: kach~ist~ rcmcom
identify waterbodies in Southold as impaired. We would like know whether the Town
has been or will soon be required by EPA to undertake stormwater mitigation.
~th officials. Going forward, the Hamlet Stakeholders group intends to meet
with the Southold Town Storm Water Committee, the Trustees, Jim McMahon from the
Department of Public Works, and Comell Cooperative Extension to further identify and
discuss the stormwater issues in Orient.
We look forward to meeting with you on October 29, 2007 and to discussing these issues
with you.
Sincerely,
Keri A. Christ
Ends.
Keri A. Christ, Esq.
22715 Main Road
Orient N.Y. 11957
E-maih kachrist~ rcn.com
EXHIBIT: Maps indicating Storm Water Runoffissues in Orient
(1) Storm Drain Runoff into Hallo ck's B ay
Overview map:
Position of Storm Drains:
Positions of storm drains
on Main Road (SR-25)
Keri A. Christ, Esq.
22715 Main Road
Orient N.Y. 11957
E-mail: kachrist~ rcn.com
Path of Storm Water Runoff:
(2) Road Sweeping Runoff into Hallock's Bay
Overview map:
Position of road sweepings and path of Storm Water Runoff:
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Keri & Christ, Esq.
22715 Main Road
Orient N.Y. 11957
E-mail: kachrist~ rcn.com
Prioritizing for Strategic Plan
Short Term goals:
GOVERNANCE
Spring and fall meetings with key Town officials:
-Make a schedule and post and publicize the dates for island residents to
request meetings with officials.
-The Island Office and ICB will coordinate.
PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS
Feagles' Path into completion:
-Grebe and Highway Dept. coordination.
-Jim McMahon and Jeff from the Highway Dept. are coming to the island
on March 7th if the weather is OK. They will be meeting with Grebe to
start work on path. Mere will be meeting with them as well. [As per
conversation with Mere and Jim on March 5th] If they can not come, they
will come on first good day the next week.
Supporting Campus Plan for ICC:
-Refurbish the Basketball Courts at school grounds as promised by Jim
McMahon.
-Improve/landscape the path from school to the basketball courts and ICC.
- Incorporate a community skate board ramp in near the tennis courts.
- Funds for landscaping around the Community Center.
ROADS, SIDEWALKS and DRAINAGE/RUNOFF
Lake Mobil:
-Coordinate with the Highway Dept. and Grebe to find the collection
pools/culverts near Mobil which need to be cleaned out and get this done.
Side walks and potholes:
-Identify and catalogue the problem sidewalks and potholes around town.
Connections to the Bike Path:
-Side walk that ends at the library needs to be extended to the FIDCO
guard house to connect the up coming bike path to the west end.
-This is a safety issue for people using the bike path that will "spill out"
onto Southold Town roads.
- Look into transportation grants though New York State,
Fowlers Culvert:
-Coordinate with DEC and Highway Dept. on solutions.
-This is a mn-off issue for Hay Harbor and a wetland issue for planning and
zoning.
-Home owner is not interested in having a leaching field on his property.
-The town was given pictures of the area and problems on Feb 12th with a
letter from the Fowlers.
Other drainage issues
-at Avenue B and near State Troopers barracks,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Housing inventory:
- Define the type and amount of affordable housing needed.
- Identify which single family homes might be converted into two-family
homes.
- Publicize existing accessory apartment law.
- Solicit Suffolk County assistance to acquire and/or rehabilitate housing
through a public-private partnership.
- The use of County funds would not preclude giving year-round residents
first priority. It would only require allowing access to off-islanders
(from the Town of Southold, then Suffolk County) if there weren't
sufficient residents on the island.
- Update and maintain inventory of Island housing stock.
- Get new tax maps for FI.
Island Economy:
-Work with the Fishers Island Ferry District to develop alternative
management strategies for Town-owned land currently under Ferry
District jurisdiction.
- There is a Ferry Task Force set up under the ICB to look into an on-island
boat. This Task Force will need information and support from the town.
- Feasibility of a smaller commuter boat for FI.
-Maintain and update inventory of Island-related businesses.
-Explore ways to improve access to reasonably-priced health insurance and
homeowners insurance through company or Island-based insurance
programs.
-Work with legislators in New York and Connecticut to facilitate health
care.
Long Term Goals:
Housing:
-What, if anything can be done with the Cleveland buildings?
-Support the school and Walsh Park with housing additions on school
property.
- Look into options to buy the Cleveland buildings though grants
*Downstate initiative
*Quality Communities Grant
* LWRP
Land Preservation: - Explore creative funding opportunities to preserve land; e.g. use of
Community Preservation Project Plan funds.
- Continue to highlight the work of the Ferguson Museum Land Trust.
- Inventory and evaluate the use of public access points (to Fishers Island).
- Seek funding to develop a "ground-truthed" wetlands map for the West
End.
- Develop a litter and garbage management plan.
- Amend the Harbor Management Plan to afford better protection of marine
water quality and give the Fishers Island Harbor Committee tools to
implement.
- Recommend lighthouses for State landmark status.
- Continue to broaden the Fishers Island School's offerings by building
bridges with Cornell University's Cooperative Extension, the University
of Connecticut at Avery Point and other relevant off-Island institutions.
- Develop a Parade Ground Preservation Plan.
- Broaden public awareness of the power of LWRP to implement Fishers
Island's Vision by distributing educational material and giving lectures.
- Seek LWRP-related funding to accomplish projects listed in the Fishers
Island section of the LWRP, particularly the revitalization of the Silver
Eel Cove area and protecting the fisheries resources.
School:
- Feasibility of a smaller commuter boat for FI.