HomeMy WebLinkAbout11/29/1961PUBLIC HEARING
TOWN BOARD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
November 29, 1961
P r e s e n t :
LESTER M. ALBERTSON, Supervisor
RALPH TUTHILL, Justice of the Peace
LOUIS DEMAREST, Councilman
CORWIN GRATHWOHL, Councilman
ALBERT W. RICHMOND, Town Clerk
CUTCHOGUE-NEW SUFFOLK PARK DISTRICT
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON:
legal notice and affidavit attesting to its
offic/al newspaper.
"LEGAL NOTICE. NOT/EE OF PUBLIC HEARING.
I will open the hearing by reading the
publication in the
NOTICE IS HEREBY
GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Southold,
New York,
New York,
Suffolk County,
will meet at the Cutchogue schoolhouse, Depot Lane, Cutchogue,
in said Town on the 29 day of November, 1961, at 7:30
o'clock P.M., Eastern Standard Time, for the purpose of conducting
a public hearing on the question of authorizing, on behalf of the
Cutchogue-New Suffolk Park District, the acquisition of the real
property hereinafter described, at an estimated expense of $17,550.00,
and the original improvement and embellishment thereof for use as a
bathing beach, including a building and appurtenant equipment, at an
estimated expense of $9,800.00. At the time and place aforesaid, said
Town Board will hear all persons interested in the subject matter of
said public hearing.
"The aforesaid real property proposed to beacquired on behalf
of said Park District, consists of two parcels, respectively described
as follows:
"PARCEL NO. I. ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land,
situate, lying and being in the Town of Southold, at Nassau Point,
near Cutchogue, County of Suffolk and State of New York, bounded and
described as follows:
"BEGINNING at the intersection of the southerly line of Bay
Avenue with the westerly line of Nassau Point Road; thence running
along said southerly line of Bay Avenue, N.87°01'20"E. 223.53 feet
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to ordinary high water mark of Little Peconic Bay; thence running
southerly along said high water mark of Little Peconic Bay 1,363.35
feet more or less, the tie lines being as follows:- (1) S.4°53'20"W.
404.85 feet; (2) S.0°54'20"E. 220.11 feet; (3) S.3°02'50"E. 299.82
feet;
(4) S.3°26'50"E. 438.57 feet to land of Nassau Point Causeway
Association, Inc.; thence along said land of Nassau Point Causeway
Association, Inc. S.86°39'00"W. 244.17 feet to ordinary high water
mark of Broadwaters Cove, thence northerly along said high water mark
of Broadwaters Cove and along land of Horton (Parcel II) 1,362.26 feet
more or less, the tie lines being as fo/k)ws:- (1) N.4°48'00"E. 231.87
feet; (2) N. 29°03'20"E. 123.55 feet; (3) N. 0°14'40"E. 109.86 feet;
(4) N. 2°27'10"W. 501.60 feet; (5) N. 9°39'00"W. 120.38 feet; (6) N. 5°
38'20"W. 295.00
feet to the point of beginning.
"EXCEPTING that part of Nassau Point Road (a Public Highway)
running within the above described premises.
"PARDEL NO. II. ALL that certain plot, piece or parcel of land
situate, lying and being ~n the Town of Southold, at Nassau Point,
near Cutchogue, County of Suffolk and State of New York, bonded an d
described as follows:-
"BEGINNING at the intersection of the southerly line of Bay
Avenue with the westerly line of Nassau Point Road; running thence
along Nassau Point Road and land of Nassau Point Causeway Association,
Inc. (Parcel I) S.5°38'20"E. 215 feet, more or less, to ordinary high
water mark of Broadwaters Cove; running thence in a generally north-
Westerly direction , thence in a southwesterly direction and thence
in a northwesterly direction along ordinary high water mark of
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Broadwaters Cove 1150 feet, more or less, to land of Petrucci;
running thence along land of Petrucci, N.2°58'40"W. 125 feet, more
or less, to land of the Town of Southold; running thence along said
land of the Town of Southold in a generally southeasterly direction
thence in a northeasterly direction 640 feet, more or less, to the
southerly line of Bay Avenue; running thence along the southerly line
of Bay Avenue, N.87°01'20"E. 371 feet, more or less, to the point
or place of beginning.
"DAted: Greenport, New York, November 9, 1961. BY ORDER OF THE
TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK. By
ALBERT W. RICHMOND, Town Clerk."
"STATE OF NEW YORK)ss:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
"F. Langton Corwin, being duly Sworn, says that he is Printer
and Publisher of the SUFFOLK TIMES, a newspaper published at Greenport,
in said county; and that the notice, of which the annexed is a printed
copy, has been published in the said Suffolk Times once in each week,
for one week successively commencing on the seventeenth dayof
November 1961. /s/ F. Langton Corwin.
Ce
"Sworn to before me this
Keogh, Notary Public."
"COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
STATE OF NEW YORK)ss:
17th day of November 1961. /s/ Cornelia
"Walter B. Gagen, being duly Sworn, says that he is the owner
and publisher of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-MATTITUCK WATCI~N, a
public newspaper printed at Southold, in Suffolk County; and that
the notice of which~%e annexed is a printed copy, has been published
in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman once each week for one
(1) week successively, commencing on the 16th day of Nov. 1961.
/s/ Walter B. Gagen.
"Sworn to before me this 17th
Notary Public, State of New York."
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: I have an affidavit of posting from the
Town Clerk which states as follows:
"STATE OF NEW YORK)ss:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
ALBERT W. RICHMOND, being duly sworn, deposes and says, that
he is over 21 years of age; that he resides at Cutchogue, New York;
and that on the 13 day of November, 1961, he posted copies of the
notice which is hereto annexed conspicuously in the five (5) public
places within the Cutchogue-New Suffolk Park District, in the County
of Suffolk and State of New York, which are respectively described
as follows:
"1. On the bulletin board in the New Suffolk Post Office.
"2. On the bulletin board in the Cutchogue Post Office.
"3. In the New Suffolk Market.
"4. In Rysko'.s Store.
"5. In Richmond, s Store. /s/ Albert W. Richmond
"Sworn to before me this 13th day of November, 1961, /s/ Eloise
Bowden, Notary Public, State of New York."
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Is there ahyone present who wishes to
speak in favor of the Park District going ahead with this proposal?
WILLIAM WICKHAM, ESQ., Mattituck, New York: I would like to
day of Nov. 1961. /s/ Adele Payne,
speak in behalf of the Commission in favor of this proposal.
There are a lot of people who believe this is a most predominant
occasion when the Commission presents their first petition for a
park site. I will explain the work this group has done to bring
this occasion about. It all goes back to 1954 in meetings of the
Cutchogue Chamber of Commerce when there was an agitation for a
park district in this section. The group realized all the shore
fronts were being taken by private individuals and water front was
becoming a premium and sooner or later people With inland property
would have no access to water. In Mattituck to the west a commission
had been started since the early 1940's and in 1954 they had obtained
a large beach on Peconic Bay, two beaches on Long Island Sound, a
parcel on the creek and also parking space in Mattituck. Since then
it has acquired another large parcel on Peconic Bay. In that year
we tried to get legislation enabling them to start a park district
with park commissioners. There was opposition by the Comptrollers
office and inspite of work by Ed Lupton, the Governor turned the
bill down.
The agitation continued because the shore fronts were becoming
unavailable . In 1958 again this group started work and with the
help of the Town Board and Lou Price and Senator Barrett we managed
to get a bill through the Legislature. There was a sudden call from
Albany that although the bill had passed there was opposition on the
part of the Comptrollers office. Mr. Grathwohl and I went to Albany.
We had a very interesting discussion with the counsel to the
Comptroller and I called the counsel to the Governor and made an
immediate appointment and we had a talk with him and after that
Governor Harriman passed the bill. That fall the first election of
Commissioners was held, and the Commissioners then. started to look
for sites. We also retained counsel to help us in this, also a
bonding attorney was retained; they have to approve the legality
of the legislation and also the~spers. Unfortunately they found
a flaw in the act. It was originally drawn by legislative draftsmen
and we had to go into it again. This time the bonding attorneys
passed the new enabling act and with their help and the help of the
Town Board, local assemblymen and Senator we were able to secure the
necessary legislation. This process slowed the operation of the
Commissioners because they did not know where they stood. After
the enabling legislation was passed and was approved by the Town
Board the Commissioners began looking around for possible sites and
there were months of conferences and finally a contract was entered
into this last spring with the Nassau Point Causeway Association for
part of their beach.
(Mr. Wickham presented a map of the site.)
On this causeway parcel we have a contract to acquire over
1300 feet from Bay Avenue to a point 300 feet from the north side
of Nassau Point Road. The Nassau Point Causeway Association insisted
on retaining a buffer zone. We had considerable discussion with the
Association not only on acquiring this but also bringing into
consideration at this time possible future developments of the
causeway. In spots it is quite narrow and we have as a long range
program, and perhaps with the ~lp of the Town Board and County of
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Suffolk of expanding the beach. There is a possibility of getting
a dredge in and the spill put in and the road shifted to the west
and leaving more parking space along where the present road is now .
That is based on the District getting the fill and if the two roads
are abandoned. The contract provides that the Causeway Association
will grant a new strip for a highway. Another matter in shifting
this road to the~st~ at Bay Avenue the road is on the westerly
part of the causeway and there is no room to shift over at that
point. We were then able to acquire a contract from Mrs. Horton for
the meadow land over to Pinetree Road. The Town does own a strip in
there and there is hope there will be some cooperation to utilize
the strip the=e.
In addition to acquiring those two parcels there is the following
expenses involved: $15,000 for the Nassau Point Causeway parcel and
$800 for the Horton Parcel. We are asking, however, for a bond issue
totaling $27,350. It is necessary if this parcel is acquired and is
used for a bathing beach. It is required by the Board of Health that
a suitable building be placed on the property and lifeguards be
placed on the beach. The plans are that a small and attractive
build/ng be placed in the northerly corner at an estimated cost of
$8,500; lifeguard platform $100; boats and equipment $750; legal
fees, survey and miscellaneous expsnses $2200, making a total of
$27,350. If the acquisition is approved by the Town Board these
moneys have to be raised by a bond issue.
I have been very pleased to present this petition to the Town
Board. We hope this is the first of many steps for waterfront
property and inland property too. This District is to be governed
by three commissioners and such sites are for the benefit of the
district. The District comprises three school districts of New
Suffolk, Cutchogue and East Cutchogue. The Town is growing and the
District is growing. Parcels for the benefit of the people are very
scarce and it is going to mean a constant search to get more parcels.
It is our civic duty to provide parcels for the residents. We all
know the popularity of this beach in years past and it is growing and
is an excellent site and I think it will be even more popular and I
think it will be even more important for the health and safeguard of
the people if there is proper supervision of it.
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Is there someone else who would like
to speak in favor of this project?
MR. CURTIS HORTON, Commissioner: I am very much in favor of
this project. I think it is a wonderful thing. I think it should
have been done many years ago. Someone back 25 years ago could have
gone to any beach, today we cannot do that. We are fortunate in having
this beach, but in five years we may not be able to have it.
MR. CAROL NEWELL: Is this beach going to be confined to the
citizens of Southold Town or can anyone go there?
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: This is a beach being bought and maintained
by a park district and the people within the park district are paying
for it and they are the ones who are able to use it. Other beaches
are open until it gets to a point where they are overcrowded and they
then have to make rules and the people are asked to get stickers.
Does that answer your questio~ Mr. Newell?
MR. NEWELL: I just wanted to know if it was for all the
people in the Town.
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: There is one beach in the Southold area
that requires stickers.
MR. HORTON: That is our idea to have it for this park district.
However, we have nothing made up on that as yet for we haven't got
the beach yet.
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Is there anyone else present who wishes
to speak in favor of this project?
(There was no response.)
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak in opposition?
(There was no response.)
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Does anyone wish to say anything either
for or against or in any way?
MR. JOHI~ FENSTER: How much of Broadwaters Creek will be filled
in by ~e new improvement west of the present causeway?
WILLIAM WICKHAM: I have no answer to that.,
that it would be just filled in a short distance.
in the future.
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Anyone else either
There were discussions
That is quite a bit
for or against?
MRS. ANNE POLASHOCK, New Suffolk: I don't think it serves
much of a purpose for the citizens of New Suffolk.
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Anyone else?
(There was no response.)
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Hearing none we will close the hearing
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for the further deliberation of the Board and thank you all for
coming out this evening.