HomeMy WebLinkAboutGreenport1067 Roselle Place
Woodmere, New York 11598
February 6, 1984
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold, New York 11971
Dear Sirs:
Proposed zoning changes in ~he Town of Southold have been
brought~ to my attention via an article and map from the
Suffolk Times. The article was unclear as to the possible
effects of these changes and I am writing to you to seek
clarification.
I own a home in the Pipes Cove area. It would appear
from the map that the beach which the Cove Circle Associa-
tion presently owns, as well as part of the surrounding
residential land, is to be zoned as wetlands. How would
this affect our present use and ownership of the beach and
surrounding area? Who would control the use of the beach
and the adjacent water--the Town or New York State? If
there is to be a change, will the homeowners affected be
notified individually?
I would appreciate a reply to my questions, as well as a
calendar of future hearings to be held on this matter.
Sincerely,
Nancy Strong
McMANN-PRICE
RlClIVED
FEB lg84
tewn Ck~rk Southold
February 16, 1984
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Southold Town Board ~//
Southold Town Hall
Southold, New York 11971
Gentlemen:
I was very much surprised to learn under the proposed new
Master Plan that two pieces of business property owned by me are
proposed to be zoned residential.
I refer to the property on which is located my office,
legal offices and a real estate office. Also a two hundred front
foot piece of property on the north side of Route 25 adjacent to the
St. Peters Lutheran Church on the west side.
I object to this type of re-zoning. I{ is a devaluation
of the property and confiscatory in my opinion. When the plan is
finalized, I hope that you will reconsider these proposed changes.
Very truly yours,
William H. Price
WHP:kk
WALTER H. BURDENIII
PIPES COVE
GREENPORT, NEW YORK 11944
February 13, 1984
Mr. Henry P~yn~r, Cha ~ ~man
Planning Board
Town of Southold
Southold Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
~ Waterfrc~t hca~KT~ners in the Pipe's Cove area west of Greenport, we strc~gly
object to ~_h~ proposed ple~ to rez~e certain waterfrc~t areas as "open space".
Ours is a urivate c~'m~nity with private access c~ly and should r~ain so. In
additlc~, our properties include a deeded underwater grant exter~ng five
hundred feet into Pipe's Cove as do several neighboring properties.
We are cc~oerned that our properties r~main ecologically sound and as the
private e~tities which we c~iginally purchased. P~ZC~L~ng to "open space"
classificatic~ w~l~ not c~ly de~y our rights to re~in these properties as we
choose but have a drastic effect c~ the property value.
~ ' Path~_r than the uroposed "open space" zc~ing classificatic~ we strc~gly urge
the area in questic~ should be rezc~ed as a "low density" area which more
accurately describes it's optimum current and future use.
It is our hope that the maps which must be prepared for final zc~_~ng and
Master Plan approval will show the above suggested changes. Sh~ld this not
oocur, we are u~epared to pursue the mattar through appropriate legal
channels.
Yours very truly,
BERNARD KIRSCH MDPC/1217ParkAvenueNew York NY lO028 Telephone 722-1030
February 28, 1984
Mr. Henry Raynor
Chairman Planning Board
Southhold Townhall
Southhold, New York 11971
Dear Mr. Raynor,
At the public meeting held in Peconic on February 16,
1984 I voiced my opposition to the designation on the Master
Plan of Southhold on which Pipes Cove is listed as "open land".
I was happy to have your reassurance that no change was
contemplated which would effect the residents in the area. I
would therefore strongly urge you on behalf of myself and my
neighbors in the Pipes Cove community to have the designation
of Pipes Cove changed to residential to reflect its actual
status and remove any threat to the community which is inherent
in the "open land" designation.
I understand that you plan to resign your post in April
and therefore feel that it is imperative that the changes in
the Master Plan be made before you leave office in order to
avoid future problems.
I would-appreciate hearing from you regarding this.
BK:ja
cc: Karmen
Schwartz
Burden
Brot
Nelson
Tendler
Loomis
Yours sincerely,
ernard Kxrsch, M. D.
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Februar~ 10~ 19~'
Torn of Southold
Planning Board
Greenport, New York
~ent leIn:
The undersigned, and more particularly Pat Zeller, formerly Pat
Drossos, do most violently object to the downgrading of our property
located on Main Road from being cc~vcially zoned property to
being rezoned as residential. The rezoning From commercial to
residential is devaluating and greatly reducing the property's
cos,~rcial value which in effect Constitutes taking of the property
without Just compensation.
We therefore most veheintly oppose the proposed )faster Plan ~hich
has been submitted.
We ~urther hereby deInd to be no~i£ied~ in writing, of any future
proposed meetings and discussions which would af£ect our proper~y
right s.
Respectfully submitted,
Martin F. Schwartz
Foot of Ninth Street
Greenport, NY 11944
February 15, 1984
Mr. Henry Raynor, President
Southold Town Planning Board
Main Road
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Mr. Radnor:
As pemanent residents and taxpayers in Southold Town, we consider proposals
of the Master Plan, as reproduced in the Suffolk Times, to be an unwarranted
and illegal threat to the status of our property along Pipes Cove.
Our area has long been and is now private residential. The plan indicates a
change to "open land," a change which would jeopardize our right to peaceful
enjoyment of our own property. We strongly oppose such a change. Our area
should be designated "Residential."
Please inform the Planning Board of our position. We are prepared to pursue
our r~ghts in this matter vigorously, even to the extent of legal action.
Cordially yours,
?'ebruary 25, 1986
Town Board
Southold, Yew York
Gentlemen and Ladies:
On Thursday,
February
Board requesting consideration of the 3 acre
the Consultant for the area on the Main Road
in-?.~ovie in Greenport.
13, 1986, we appeared before the
zoning as proposed by
opposite the old Drive-
As stated, we had been approached by a member of the
Planning Board some time aEo to consider low income housing on this
same tract. We then requested Young and Young to draw up some plans
and would like to submit copies of these to the Board.
We have already discussed this proposed layout with the
Planning Board and they have neither approved it nor disapproved
same stating that they would like to have cost figures first. We
have applied to the Village of Greenport for Sewer Service but because
of a back loE, they have put us on the list for future consideration.
?~ith reference to water hook up, we have been told that this area is
already part of a water district.
Since it will take some time before this application is
acted on, it is virtually impossible to come up with cost figures at
this time.
The layout as presented could be all residential, all
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industrial or a combination of both. We feel the latter is the
best approach.
There is a crying need for small industrial plots of
about 10,000 sq.ft. Most of our requests have been for structures
about 2500 sq.ft.
This would fulfil a need for individuals who wish to
open up a carpenter shop, electrical shop., plumbing shop, auto
body shop, truck repair, construction equipment repair etc.
~ost are young men who wish to start out on their own
but have limited resources and the mere fact that a 5 acre plot
would be required eliminates them completely.
We understand the desire of many people for open space,
unfortunately, it is always some one else's open space that they
desire most.
We also understand the dilemma the Board finds itself
in and how to please both sides will require the wisdom of Solomon.
We can only suggest that the members of the Board go back
20, 30 or 40 years when they were first starting out, and try to
visualize first hand the obstacles our young people now have to
overcome in trying to find jobs or in trying to start out for
themselves.
Yours truly,
Harold Reese
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Se~er Dep~rtaent
Proposed Sewer District
West Greenport
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MARCIA Z, HEFTER
CHARLES R. CUDD¥
ESSEK$, HeFTeR, CUDDY & ANGEL
COUNSELORS AT LAW
P. O. Box 279
RIVERHEAD, N.Y. 11901
(516) 369-1700
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March 3, 1986
WATER MILL OFFICE
MONTAUK HIGHWAY
P. O. Box 570
WATER MILL, N.Y. 11976
Town Board
Town of Southold
Main Road
Southold, New York
11971
Dear Board Members:
John Costello is the fee owner of approximately 50 acres of
land on the west side of the Village of Greenport all within
the Town of Southold.
On December 3, 1985 the property was rezoned upon his petition
to "M" Light Multiple Residence zoning status.
An informational hearing was recently held concerning a
proposed amendment to the Master Plan and/or the rezoning of
various parcels throughout the Town. From this informational
hearing it would appear that the subject parcel, which had
recently been rezoned as aforesaid, is going to be rezoned to
two acre residential status.
This rezoning seems inappropriate. We assume it is an
oversight. We call this to your attention and ask for your
advice as to whether or not there is any zoning change proposed
for the subject premises.
We await your advice.
Very truly yours,
William W. Esseks
WWE :cf
Copy: John Costello
Southold Town Board
Town Hall
Southold, New York
Re:
Master Plan and Proposed Zoning
Ordinance as They Relatelto
Port of Egypt
Dear Supervisor ~urphy and Board Members:
I have had the opportunity over the last few years
to monitor the progress Of the development of a Town of
Southold Master Plan and, most recently, the structuring
of a Proposed Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map.
I was encouraged to note that, within the Master
Plan Update Summary submitted to the public in December,
1985, the area of Budd's Pond, in which the Port of Egypt
is located, was scheduled for marine commercial uses.
Specifically, the Master Plan states,
"Proposed sites for marine commercial use primarily
reflect sites that are currently utilizied for
boat mooring and marine commercial purposes. In
addition, marine-relate~ areas in the vicinity of
Budd's Pond and Sage Boulevard have been proposed
for expansion to help in meeting future water-related
needs."
These catagories of
maintain its boat docking,
as well as
uses permitted Port of Egypt to
repair and marine-related services
the establishment of a motel complex. It should be
noted that this mixture of uses was included within the Marine
Business district within the Proposed Zoning Regulations
developed by Raymond, Parrish, Pine and Weiner for the
Planning Board. From the perspective of the Master Plan,
these uses would be consistent with future needs of the Town
of Southold by providing a wider range of access to Peconic
Bay ~ well as assisting in providing a basis for tourism
by establishing a transient motel base.
In reviewing the Proposed Zoning Ordinance as revised
by the Town Board, we were very much disturbed to ilearn that
transient motels were eliminated from the Marine Business
district. We did note that transient motels would be per-
mitted only within the Marine Recreation district, as a
permitted use. Accordingly, we would urgently request that
the Town Board either re-introduce transient motels within
the Marine Business district, either as a permitted use or
by special exception, or put the easterly section of Port
of Egypt within the ~arine Recreation district while leaving
the westerly portion within the Marine Business district.
This easterly section, of approximately four acres has, in
recent years, been presented to the Planning Board as a motel
complex for transient use. At the present time, we are still
considering a motel project for that section of our property
and would hope that the Master Plan would allow Us that use.
Very truly yours,
William Lieblien
F'ort o¥ Eq,?pt Harine,
Main Rd.
Southold. N.Y. 119'71
Mr': Henry Raynor, Chairman
Southold Town Planning Board
Southold Town Hall
Southold, NY 11971
Dear Henry~
March 4, 1984
This past Ball we approached the F'lanning Board with
our tentative plans Bor the developement oB the Port oB
Egypt property at Budd's Pond. As I am sure you will re-
call, we had in mind the construction oB a 50 unit motel.
It was the consensus o~ the board that 50 units was much
too dense. Since that time we have engaged a ~irm special-
izing in motel and resort developement, Planning Associ-
ates.
We asked them to evaluate the Beasabili.l-y oB operating
with less than 50 onits and also to help us develope a
"master plan" Bor Port oB Egypt. We have been work£ng very
closely with the engineering and architectual braoch oB
Planning Associates, Ward Associates~ Bor the past several
months. They have been instrumental in helping us to come
up with a comprehens:~.ve plao for our property. We have just
completed work on this plan.
When we appeared be.Fore you las'[ .Fall yoL~ told us that
the next oBBicial step would be to approach the Town Board
with a request ~:or a zone change at which time they would
turn our request over to you Bor evaluation and recommend-
ations. We will be taking that step in the near Buture.
ment plans, the Birst draBt oB the ]~'own's master plan has
been released ~or review. We have not had an opportunity
to attend an~, o~~ the unoBBicial hearings recently held by
the League o'~ Women Voters butt we would like to provide you
with some input which we recluest that you Borward to RF'F'W.
Our- Birst concern is the developement oB the land
surrounding Budd's Pond. We presently owo appro;.~imately
500 Beet on the water and we are in contract to purchase an
additional 180 Bee'[, so our stake in this area is quite
hiqh. The present business mix 'includes two marinas with
docks and drystack capability, ~our restaurants, one boat
livery~ one motel and one ~ish market witln the ca0ability
o~ unloading commercial ~ishing boats up to about 40 ~eet
long. In visting other areas where tourism and commercial
and sport~ishing ~acilities are a major part o~ the econo-
my~ we have seen how the interests o~ both ~actions can be
served by a blending of uses. The nearest example that
comes to mind is at Montauk Point where commercial .i~ishinq
piers, ¥ish markets, restaurants~ ~ift shops~ motels and
marinas for sportfishing and pleasure boats are all blended
together.
It appears to us that a combination of Marine Commer-
cial amd Resort Commercial zoning would be most appropriate
to the Budd's Pond area. It would best match what presently
exists and provide for the continued developement of the
area along similar lines in the future. We trust that be-
fore the ~inal draft of the Master Plan is complete the
Planning Board will give the public an opportunity to make
inputs at a public hearing.
There is one other proposal which is not clear to us.
We noted that the proposed zoning ~or Port of Egypt's pro-
perty at Orient Point is P or Public Access. We presently
operate a boat livery at this location. We have allowed our
customers to use the beach for ~wimming and launching of
their boats since we purchased the property in 1957. We
are stronqly opposed to a change in zone to public access
for two reasons. We will not be able to control access to
our property and at some time in the future we may wish to
build a residence there.
Again~ we look' forward to the opportunity to address
the board at a public hearing with regard to the Master
Plan in general and the areas we have discussed in partic-
ul ar.
In closing, we would like to thank you and the Board
for the time and effort you put into trying to ensure that
the township is developed in a controlled manner. Each of
us taxpayers is looking out for our own intersts and how
your actions will effect our properties and lifestyles.
You must look to the good of the town in general In many
instances it must seem like the public does not appreciate
your efforts. We would like you to know that we do appre-
ciate your efforts and will continue to do so even if we
don't always agree with them.
In particular we'd like to thank you Henry., for all
the years you I~ave given to the town. Your expertise has
been an invaluable asset to the board and your resignation
will be a great loss to the town. Speaking as an individ-
ual who has served on the Greenport Board for 13 years, I
can appreciate what the job has taken out of you and out of
your family life. We wish you 'luck and hope that you will
make yoursel.~ available, in an advisory capacity, to the
board after ~our retirement.
Sincerely,
STUART D. STAPLES MONUMENT WORKS
GREENPORT
±,'ebruary 11, 19~37
6outhold Tow~. Soard
}:ain Road
Southold,
~.¥. 11971
HALSEY A. STAPLES, Proprietor
Markers ~ Corner Posts
LONG ISLAND NE~ YORK
RECEIVED
FEB 1 ': 1987
Iown Clerk Southnld
Dear dirs,
Ny family has ovmed and operated "Stuart D. Staples
Nonument Works" since 1929 at the corner of ~.iain Street
and ~ilmarth Avenue. The premise has been used as
business property for 59 years and will probably
continue for many generations tocome. Since the old
zoning code was put into place, my business property
has been zoned residential with a non-conforming use.
The Town Board is presently considering a new
~.aster ~:lan and ~:~y property has not been zoned properly
again. I would like to urge the board to zone ~ay -
property "Hamlet Business" or ",2eneral Business" which
ever zone is proper for my needs.
~lease recognize my property as a business use as
you have done with other business propertiesin the
Tovm and rezone my property with the correct zone.
Thank you for your attetion to this matter and I
submit to you this letter and survey of my property
fo~ your review.
Very Truly Yours,
Halsey A. Staples
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