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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSoutholdIaV~TO L. Pa~o~, ,Ja. ATTORNEY AT LAW JAN 2 7 984 January 26, 1984 Southold Town Board Town Hall Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Gentlemen: The undersigned represents the principals of The Silver Sands Motel, owners of property at Arshamomaque, New York, bounded on the North by the Land Island Railroad, on the East by land of Nelson, on the West by Silvermere Road, and on the South by Peconic Bay, consisting of 17% acres. I enclose herewith copy of Legal Notice (Amendment No. 69 to Zoning Ordinance) published July 9, 1965 changing above premises from A-Residential to B-2 Business District. These premises were subsequently changed to M-1 General Multiple-Residence District, which is the present designation. This letter is occasioned by the proposed "Master Plan" and accompanying map as set out in the January 26, 1984 edition of the Suffolk Times. I understand the actual map is not available. This letter is in protest to these premises being changed to "Open Space (Includes Wetlands & Beaches)" as indicated on map at Page 5B of said newspaper. While the uses permitted in said "Open Space District" are not enumerated, it must be assumed it does not include condominiums nor motels, as is permitted in present designation of M-1. Applicant operates a well-known motel on land adjoining this on the West and which is indicated on new map as "Resort Commercial". The subject premises were purchased many years ago as the site of a natural expansion of the present resort motel. The subject premises on the new map is bounded on the North by the Long Island Railroad property, which is designated LIGHT INDUSTRY/OFFICE, on the West by above' Resort Commercial and Medium Density Residential, on the East by Hamlet Density Residential. IR¥1NG L. PRICE, JR. Southold Town Board -2- January 26, 1984 This amounts to poor planning, considering the neighboring designations, and also is ,'spot zoning" in that it picks out a parcel of land presently M~i and makes it "Open Space" surrounded by lower uses including LIGHT INDUSTRY/OFFICE. Where people have purchased premises in reliance on present zoning, intending to use it in conjunction with their present adjoining legal business, to have' it changed to "Open Space", (whatever that means) amounts to confiscation without due process. It is unconscionable. Please make this letter part of the record and consider it an application to have' the so-called Master Plan Map changed to include subject premises in the district which allows the same use as the present M'i. Thanking you in advance for your courtesy, I remain, Very tru. iy yours, ILP/dg Eno. cc: Mrs. Florence Jurzenia FEB I 9 '~o~ ~,t~,~ ~ou~,rSTATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT STONY BROOK LONG ISLAND, NY 11794 516-246-7710 la eebruary 8,6 Southold To~'~ Board Town Hall Southold, NY 11971 (NOT in any sense an official letter or representative of an MSRC position) Dear Board I~embers: Last night I attended the 51aster Plan hearing in Southold and was again impressed, as I was at the Orient meeting, by the very high proportion of public comments %¢hich were based on individual self-interest, pure and simple. I suppase you in government get used to that, maybe expect it. I was a little disillusioned. I think your Board deserves a lot of credit for your patience and persistence in working so hard and long on a ~.~ster ~lan in the face of that kind of a public attitude. I do think that mere publicity~ more effort to sell the Plan, might have helped, but concede it might h~ve worked the other way, too, Probably needless to say, I support the Plan, what I know of it, mainly because it will somewhat restrain the self-interest of people like those who spoke last night. I don't question their right to ask for special treatment or even~ in special cases, to get it. I do, however, hope the Board will stick to its original oboectives, as I see them, of tryin9 to preserve open space, good water and unpolluted shores even for the people, which I still think are the overwhelmin9 majority in the Town~ who can't be bothered to show up at hearings and support you. ~y own special interest, as might be expected, is in the To~.~'s marine waters and their preservation in present condition. I think the Plan may be weak on this point. Commercial development of the Sound shore is probably acceptabie because of its good flushing characteristics. Commercial development or dense housing development along the creeks and bays is'very different, something I think professional planners may fail to recognize. These areas are not, in general, actively flushed and also they support shellfish populations (which the Sound shore mostly does not). Loss of those shellfish, through habitat damage or bacterial pollution, is a very serious danger, one which I don't think the Plan has adequately recognized. Obviously the Board can only hope to compromise on this issue since so many polluting activities are ready in place. I would like to see you do this by selecting a fe~ bays and creeks to be actively protected, ~ sot% of marine park area where there will be clean water and healthy shellfish that the public can still use (including, where appropriate, the baymen). I think pres- ervation of these bays and creeks is just as important as preservation of parks and open space on land. They have limited protection under New York Iidat !fetland Law, of course, but this often fails to pro- tect from surface runoff and sewage intrusion, as many studies have sho~. The To~%~, through zoning, can plug at least some of that gap. This concept applies especially strongly To Orient. Hallock's Bay is probably The most productive and, so far, least polluted in £ouThold Tov.~. IT should be kept That way. Fortunately for this purpose, all ~aTer supply studies that I am acquainted with agree on The need to hold down population increase in Orient. The proposal for 5-~cre zoning south of Route 25 serves both purposes, not to mention mini- mizin0 the danoer from hurricane flooding (which mill get worse as sea level continues To rise). I hope the Board will keep 5-acre aoning in That are~, even in The face of strong self-serving sTmTe- menTs by The large landou~ers. They are not, as sometimes claimed, experts on ~.aTer supply and ihey do not seem to understand That %viThdrawal in The center of The lens can cause salt intrusion at the marine edoe. I have lived, and farmed, in Orient as long as most of Them but That does not make me a water supl)ly expert any more Than it does Them. I can, I Think, claim some e~perTise on marine ecology and on That basis ask you To proTec~ Hallock's. Sincerely, Orville Terry ;%ssoc. Resemrch Professor FEB 1. 8 1986 P.O. Box 1621 Southold, N.Y. 11971 February 14, 1986 Mr. Frank J. Murphy, Southold Town Supervisor Southold Tow~ Board of Councilmen Town Hall Southold, N.Y. 11971 Gentlemen: This letter follows up my protest of the Master Plan presented verbally at last night's meeting, relative to: 1. The extension of business zoning south of the present Village Market property line, changing the Foning of my driveway property from residential to business. Since the Edson property is ~oned for Hamlet Business and includes a right of way over my driveway, the business zoning extension change would leave my driveway property open to virtually public use. Except for Edson, the four business properties between Youn~s Avenue and Maple Lane (namely the Village Market, Edson, the North Fork Bank and Bruer law office) all have a common depth from the Main Rd. which has been established for many years. My residential driveway is not suitable for commercial traffic. Commercial traffic would also compromise the steel fence and many shrubs and trees that my father and I have put in through the years along the Village Market boundary. I wish to keep my property entirely a residential prooerty. The right of way is wholly unnecessary to the Edson proper~y, which fronts on Main Street, and I consider the zoning change amd southwarA extension of the business zone an unnecessary harassment, and trust it will be deleted from the Master Plan. 2. I also protest the Master Plan introducing the motel business into boatyards in general, and to Goldsmith's Town Creek Boatyard in particular. The bostyard business and the motel business require entirely different equipment and skills, and we should not encourage their being combined. The motels will also aggravate the seashore pollution, end compromise the importance of boatyard services. There is presently a scarcity of boatyards and little prospect of new yards being sst up. Sincerely, Almet R. Latson ~civ,,crd D. Peeon~ Loz~e Peeor,~, Hew York 11958 FEB £3 1984 ~eb 17,198~ Henry Raynor, Jr., Chairman $outhold Tow~ Planning Board Town Hall Main Rd. Southold, N.Y. 11971 Re: proposed Master Plan Dear Mr. Haynor, I am a small business owner iN Southold who currently rents the location from which I conduct my business. Recently I acquired an undeveloped parcel of B-1 zoned land on the north side of Route 48 between Railroad Ave. and Horton's La. for the pvrpo~es of the future expansion of my business activities. On the proposed Master Plan my property is designated for Agricultural Preserve. Please be informed that I strongly object to the designation of Agricultural Preserve for my property. It is my wish that future updates of the Master Plan designate this property for business use as it is currently zoned. S iz)cer~4y. ~ ~Edward ~art Mr. Henry Raynor, Southold Planuing Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York Dear Sir: ~hairman $oard 11971 FEB 1984 LOUIS B. BARN]~T 54755 Main Road Southola, NewlYork February i8, ~84 I have been informed that the To%~n Board Master !PLan includes a chan~e 9f zoning for my property at the above address. This is ~ust east of ~La Gazelle¥, and directly across the street from Lewis & Nickles RaA1 Estate. ~ince we are presently in Florida on vacation, I am unablelto come to any of the hearings on this Master Plan and am mak~ing my appeal by letter. We acquired this prdperty in April 1961. Me purchased it specifically because it was zoned business. I have con- ducted a business ~ers -- sales and service for lawn mowers amd other small engines -- continuously since the above date. In view of the fact that this is also our residence, it would work a great hardship for me to have this zoning changed. I respectfully request that the zoning for this pro- perty be continued as "business". Very truly yours, Louis B. Barnett 23 984 P. O. Box A-F Greenport, N.Y. 11944 February 18, 19~4 Town Planning Board To~n of Southold Town Hall Southold, N.Y. 11971 Gentlemen: This is a s-mmaryof remarks which I made at the public review of the draft of the new Tox~mMaster Plan held et the Senior Citizen Center in Peconic last month, relative to the need for more realistic provision for low-income housing in the Mmter Plan~ with some amplification on house conversions. The Town of Southold, like m~ny other Towns, has s~ept the problem of low-income housing under the carpet for many yes_rs. The draft of the ne~Master Plan is commendable in recognizing at last that there ~s a need for such housing, but, as ~e explain belew~ it fails to address the need effectively. Since the time that two-acre zoning was debated before the Town Board last year, an erticle in the Suffolk Times on the scarcity of low-paid labor in Southo!d demonstrated that farms, ~ish-processing plants, restaurants, and other operations that pay ~uinimum wages or not much above minimum ~ages, are having great difficulty in obtaining an adequate and reliable body of ~orkers. No doubt the same problem affects hospitals, nursing homes, stores, garages, and other employers. One of the obvious causes of this problem is that the rents for apartments on the North Fork have risen drastically in the last five years so theta f~mily depending on one ~age-earner paid at minimum wage level cannot afford to rent an apartment. Gentrification in Greenport, and probably elsewhere, has been converting houses thet used to be availsble to low-income f~milies to summer homes of more affluent citizens, and this, of course, by reducing the supply of rental housing drives up the demand and rents for what rental housing remeins. This process can be expected to continue and it will drive many low- paid workers away from the North Fork or into illegal, overcrowded housing. The Village of Greenport has made some compensation for its loss of low-income housing by planning a sixteen-unit project ~hich is now under negotia- tion with the funding authority, and it has set aside a plot of land in its own new master plan draft (the waterfront revitalization plan) ~or additional lo~- income housing, but even these steps will not satisfy the Villagers own need for such housing. Approximately seventy valid applicants for the sixteen planned units came forth~hen the pl~us ~ere announced. While the Village also has hopes for some expansion of its fish-processing industry, ~ich ~o~uld require more low- income workers, its officials feel, rightly, that there is a practical limit as to how much of its residential property can be devoted to low-income housing, and this is especially true in view of the failure of the Town government to accept its responsibility to provide a reasonable share of the low-income housing needed° The points made above tell us that we face s crippling of plans to develop fish-processing and other industry on the North Fork as well as a deteri- oration in the supply and quality of many services residents reouire to sustain their lives unless sn energetic effort is made to provide a substantial of housing that low-paid workers con efford to rent. 1 To: Town Planning Board, Town of Southold February 1~, 1984 Page 2 There are social and htunmnitarian aspects to housing which need to be considered as well as the economic ones. It is well known that the youth of the North Fork are awsre that there is not enough housing available to them to allow them to rent an apartment when they get married° This inevitably generates an impression for them that the Town fathers have no sympathy for youth, and this helps spur them to abandon the North ~brk as soon as they are able to seek employ- ment elsewhere. Naturally, the best of the North Fork's youth is most easily lost in this process, and the result is a weakening of the vitality of all enterprise on the North Fork. Senior citizens who reach the point of no longer being able financially or physically to maintain a one-family home are also hurt by the lack of ample rental housing available at reasonable rents. They end up neglecting maintenance of their homes, skimping on food and medical attention, and ultimately may be forced to move away from the North Fork or seek welfare aid when their incomes no longer cover their needs. Families and individuals on public assistance because of personal calam- ities or inadequacies must be given housing on the North Fork as elsewhere, and the scarcity of rental housing forces the payment of exorbitant rents which, in the end, come out of all taxpayers~ pockets. It is psychologically and socially unhealthy for any Town to allow its youth and its senior citizens to be driven away° It is also well known that where there is a shortage of legal housing for essential workers in a mixed community illegal housing will mushroom. This causes overcrowding and social ills, such as crime, violence, incest, etc. It also encourages corruption of public officials who fail to root out the illegal housing, and this breeds cynicism among the electorate. The draft for the new Master Plan for the Town of Southold proposes plots for low-income housing in the hamlets and sets a maximum density of six units per acre. Unless specific plots are set aside in the Master Plan, the ongoing development of the hsml ets may soon e2~mfnate likely plots so that the cost of condemning sites for projects in the future would he excessive and pro- bably entail considerable litigation. Sites should be designated now in locations that are within reasonable distance of shopping, since low-income citizens are not likely to o~m cars. The density of six units per acre is unrealistic, and, indeed, is even lower than the density of eight units per acre which other Towns established many years ago. Eight units per acre would allow eight single-family houses with fifty- foot lots, which is the present density of existing housing in parts of the ham- lets. However, the present cost of constructing a single-family house is really prohibitive for a low-income home, and, indeed, even if such a house were given free to some low-income r~sidents, they could not afford its heat, utilities, upkeep, insurance, taxes, etc. Also, a single-f~mfly house is not what senior citizens need~ The only economically practical solution for low-income housing today is apartments, because they require less land per unit, have less surface per unit for loss of heat to the exterior, and afford a number of economies in con- struction compared ~.~th single-fsmfly houses. There are apartment complexes now in the Town of Southold that demonstrate that apartments need not be architectur- To: Town Planning Board, To~m of Southold February 18, 1984 Page 3 ally objectionable. It would also be well worth the ~ile of the members of your board to visit the Totem of Huntington to examine the apartments built there fow low- and moderate-income families, including the facilities for the care of children of working parents and the services and controls set up to maintain an acceptable level of living standards. One feature there especially worth investi- gating is the use of low do~n payment cooperative o~mershtp of apartments, which contributes to better care of the premises by the tenants. Naturally, apartments can aud shot~ld be built at a much higher density than six units per acre. For that reason, the new Master Plan should not fix a maximum for the density of low-income housing, but leave it open ~br negotiation Mhen actual proposals are being worked on. It is also possible to increase the anount of loM- aud moderate-income housingby permitting conversion of large one-f~m~ly h?uses ~to two-f~amily ?~ even a~rtment occupancy. This woul~ require a Tow~ zonm~?oro~nan~ce a~ pe~mo±y additional ordinances if the idea ms to be properly worKeo ou~. 'zne almerammon of large one-f-m~ly houses for multiple occupancy may require firewalls, fire escapes, etc. for safety. It would be best to require the registration of all such conversions, with stiff penalties for 2ailure to obey, and to have the con- ~ersions inspected for health and safety at the time of reg~stratie~n,~ and at least annually thenafter. A fee paid by the o~mer of such a property would pay the cost of inspection. Houses already converted illegally could be legalized if health and safety requirements are met. Houses with multiple occupancy that pre- exists zoning should also be required to comply with the neM standards, with due allowance for specific situations. A side aspect to the point made directly above is the need to crack down on illegal occupancy that has developed in summer rentals, often causing deterioration in the tranquility and safety of year around residents. Firm and reasonable standards should be set for summer rentals to allow a summer influx without sacrificing the rights of regular tsxpaying residents. Your board should recognize that, if it does not address the needs for low- and moderate-income rental housing as recommended above, and as recommended Me are sure by your planning consultants, the North Fork will, like various other communities, be turning its back on its historical accommodation of a mix of economic activities that requires the employment and housing of a substantial body of low-paid workers. This is usually the result of the snobbishness and racial prejudices of newcomers to an area who desire an enclave of middle- and upper-class residences and illogically assume that the low-paid workers who ren- der the services they desire will somehow be whisked away somewhere else at 5:00 P.M. every day. Eventually, if local government accepts this philosophy, the social disruption is liable to lead to lawsuits against it or the intervention of higher authority, causing tragic splits in the community. It would be far easier to a~end to the North Fork's housing needs today than to insert provisions in the ~ter Plan which actually negate the chances of doing so, end have'~ nasty confrontations in the future. We enclose a copy of a letter from the Hon. Joseph Sawicki that promiseS support for progressive housing action, and we believe that the sort of Federal progrmm being tapped by the Village of Greenpart is a possibility to be looEed into. ~~~~ Incl: Ltr ~W~e~i~k S. L~ht~foo THE S TAT E ASSEMBLY OF NEW YORK ALBANY February 6, 1984 ^,~,.~ Mr. Frederick S. Lightfoot P.O. Box A-F Greenport, New York 11944 Dear Mr. Lightfoot: Thank you for your recent comments concerning the housing situation on the East End. I certainly agree that it's becoming more and more difficult for middle and lower income families, especially young marrieds to find affordable housing. Communities must encourage the creation of attractive affordable housing and I will support state programs to assist in this area. I don't believe that this position is in any way inconsistant with my opposition to the Governor's plan for welfare housing increases. It is the hard working members of the middle class who can bearly afford their own housing who are being made to pay increased housing allowences for those who are on welfare. Welfare costs are getting out of hand, and will continue to go up, under the present administration in Albany. I appreciate your concern for the plight of the working people in our community. eph ~, Jr. ! ~4ember of %he Assembly JS:pr 19 February lqq4 Henry Raynor, Chief Plannin~ Board for Town Southold Town Hall Southold, N. Y, 11071 of Southold Many of the provisions of the new !taster Plan for Southold Town seem to have been conceived with some other elate in Mind, certainly not our slender and fragile oeninsula. With its undeniable physical limitations, present well-known water problems, wide-spread erosion and contamination o? various kinds, how can the Town of Southold possibly benefit by the enormous increase in dwellin~ units and peculation envisased by the Planners? The "encouragement of development in and around existing hamlets" and the glib promise of "efficient and effec- tive provision of community facilities and services" leave us wondering how this is to be accomplished witiaout straining to the breaking point our available resources. Taxes must inevi- tably increase proportionately with the rate of new develonment, but the greatest cost to residents will be the damaqe to our uniquely beautiful environment and a death blow to the quality of life here. Changes in land use are inevitable, given the apnarent weariness of many local farmers and current demand for suddenly very desireable real estate. Competition among realtors and land soeculation seem to be at an all-time high on the North Fork. But the prime concern of Town planners should be to ensure the best use of those lands consistent with the overall welfare of the Town and its residents. Preservation of larpe tracts of valuable apricul~ural land is very important, but should not have to be counter balanced Uy atlowin0 the oroliferation of sub- divisions in other less fortunats areas and lame--scale develoo- merit that threatens to obliterate their rural character. Long a victim of indifference by Town officials tO flagrant violations of zonino and buildinu codes, East ~arion has aonarent ly been traded off as a "receivinq area", where under the Plan~ hiqher densities of everythinq are allowed. Thouqh the Plan has only lately &opeared, it is clear the decision was made some time a~o, with the final approval of Hiqh Point, Section I, and tile temoorary aporoval of H.P. Section II, a combined total of 5~ lots on 58 acres of prime a~ricultural land. The mandatory roads have already been cut and traced in the patterns typical of suburban development. They will no doubt soon be paved to receive the expected onrush of prospective buyers of these under-sized lots, and to afford access for eventua~ construction. Until very recently most residents remained unaware of the change in store for them. In the light of past experience, it is doubt'.- ful their protests would have been heeded. It is sad to see one of the very few remaining expanses of farmland in the hamlet put to this kind of use. Between ?iattituck and Orient there are already some 2,500 existing mapped sub- divisions and infill lots, still unbuilt, b!hy allow East k'~arion to be sliced into small pieces when other more productive ways might have been found to preserve OUr open spaces? And there are more goodies to come: a cluster development of 54 lots on 69 acres is proposed for Cove Beach at East t.larion, a beautiful and ecologically sensitive area with larpe frontage on the Sound. Through persistent efforts by the North Fork Environmental Council and the Nature Conservancy~ in co-oeeration with the property owners, a portion of the vital area around Dam Pond may be saved, ttopefully, there will be some "innut" from East ~larion before and during the open hearings scheduled for !Jarch 12th, at which time approv, al of this sub-division as well as Highpoint II~ is sought by the developers. It would be interesting to know what factors enter into determining which are to be the "receiving areas" and what recourse is open to residents in hamlets so designated who wish to have some voice in a matter which can greatly affect their lives. The Plan calls for a system of "credits" which may be purchased by property owners in the receiving areas to apply to their projects. What is the going market price of these credits, are there restrictions on the number of credits allowed one purchasor~ will applications for them be subject to goer hearings, and finally, where do these monies go2 Respectfully yours, Stars Road Eaet ~.~arion (copy to ~uffolk Ti mss) February 19, 1984 Planning Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, N. Y, 11971 Re: Preliminary Master Plan Gentlemen: At the public hearing on the Master Plan held February 2 in Peconic, I mentioned that I would prefer to write my comments rather than to present them at that meeting. And having said that, I do feel an obligation to follow through. But I should make it clear from the outset that I do not take this whole process seriously. It is a political process and the result will be a political document. I hold out no hope whatever that I can influence directly any of the political decisions. So rather than to focus my attention on the details of the Plan, I am going to focus it on the process. Perhaps in this way I can have a positive influence on the outcome. Without any question, we are the most adaptive creatures on earth, and yet we have allowed ourselves to become its most endangered species. For we are poised at the brink of a nuclear holocaust that threatens to destroy the very civilization that our nuclear weapons are intended to preserve. What is it in the nature of man that allows such a possibility? The most fundamental drive of all intelligent creatures is to attain the perception that they are competent to meet their own needs. Most of the animals with which we are familiar live in relative isolation and so have developed little dependence on others. But an animal that has been raised in captivity has learned to depend on others and thus may be incapable of surviving alone in the wild. He has become a social animal just as we have. But man is unique in having become al~nost totally dependent on others to meet his own needs. In part this is biological, for he is born at an earlier stage of fetal development and faces a much longer childhood. In part it is technological, for he needs to acquire so much more knowledge from others in order to adapt to his environment. And, certainly, it is economic, for he must depend on others to supply the skills and the goods that he lacks. So it should come as no surprise that man exhibits an overwhelming desire to gain control over others as a means of attaining this perception that he is competent to meet his own needs. Government is simply the means by which one group gains control over another. So each of us will view his government either as extending his power to control others or as extending the power of others to control him, depending on his success in the political process. For example, we see our government as the means by which we can control the Russians, and we see their government as threatening to control us. That our stockpiles of nuclear weapons ultimately will destroy both societies is simply overlooked because we have become so preoccupied with the perception of being in control. -1 - As we demand more and more control over others through our government, we will be forced to adapt to lives of ever-increasing complexity ourselves. Consequently, there will be a growing number in our society who find it very difficult if not impossible to adapt and who will lose that precious perception of being able to meet their own needs. Many of these economiqally displaced persons will look to that same government to restore their perception of competence by creating a new program to assist them, say subsidized housing. The taxes required to support that new program will increase the burden on those who had adapted previously thereby adding still another group to those who require a subsidy to live in our society. Ultimately, we will have created a society of such order and complexity that communism will remain as the only viable solution. In my observation, we have become so preoccupied with using our local government to gain control over our neighbors that we have overlooked the fact that we are destroying our society in the process. For example, when zoning was adopted in 1957 the approved lot size was 10,000 square feet or one-quarter of an acre. Apparently that size was chosen to provide for the practical layout of the house on the lot based on the then Suffolk County Health Department standard for the spacing between a well and any cesspools. As we became more concerned about polluting the water supply, that standard was increased and the lot size was increased to 20,000 square feet or one-half acre, then to 40,000 square feet or one acre and recently to 80,000 square feet or two acres. In the meantime we adopted an official policy of deliberately doing nothing about providing for public water or public sewers on the basis that to do nothing would effectively limit the overall development of the Town. We. had already become so preoccupied with controlling our neighbors that we were willing to overlook the only rational solution to our real problem. The effect of this planning was to encourage the wholesale development of the very open space that we intended to protect. For such large house lots required the development of inexpensive land far from the hamlet centers in order for the price to be competitive with that of the smaller lots that remained unsold in the older developments. And this repeated upzoning together with the continual threat of further upzoning greatly accelerated such development within the Town, far beyond any rate that could be justified economically. And yet, in spite of such an abundance of house lots, this plan to restrict the supply and thus to increase the price of house lots has placed home ownership well beyond the means of most of the young people who are growing up in the Town and, also, of many of the elderly who wish to remain here. So now we find ourselves having to accept subsidized housing as a means of maintaining our perception of being in control. One official policy we adopted was to encourage tourism and seasonal occupancy within the Town. The argument put forth at the time was that part-time residents would lower our tax rate since they would not add to our school-age population. On the other hand, we adopted a wetlands preservation plan designed to halt all development along the coastline and thus deny access to the very asset that attracted these seasonal residents. It is one of the miracles of the political process that both the local business community and the so-called environmentalists could be satisfied simultaneously but each had the perception of being in control of the other. -2- Another official policy we adopted was to preserve farming as a major economic base for the Town. Every government seems determined to gain control over the farmers for one reason or another and yet I know of no government that has ever had any success. Farming is just too dependent on the weather and on the markets to be controlled by any government, howeve~ well-meaning. And so, in spite of this official policy, farming as we knew it then has virtually disappeared in just one generation. We now have more truck gardening and some new vineyards and nurseries, but much of the farmland is already in the hands of speculators awaiting development. It is interesting to note that the prime argument used to promote the adoption of this official policy was that maintaining the land in farming would protect our water supply from pollution. And yet, just the opposite has occurred, for the pesticides and fertilizer essential to modern farming have polluted our water supply to an alarming extent already. Now we are being presented with a new Master Plan that seeks to sustain our perception of being in control by simply ignoring these very facts. Perhaps you have observed, as I have, that the public has a great fear of any Master Plan that attempts to zone for the future needs of the Town. Clearly, they want to use the government as a means of maintaining direct control over their neighbors. And if each new business activity requires a zoning application, it enhances their perception of being in control. It is for this reason that I refuse take this Master Plan seriously. Nor do I believe that any of the public who demanded that it be undertaken ever intended it to be anything more than a crudely disguised attempt to gain more control over their neighbors. For they now openly oppose every aspect of the Plan that attempts to anticipate future needs, whether it is a site for a new airport or a new business area in their hamlet. This new Master Plan does address the need to encourage higher density contiguous development in and around the existing hamlets in order to protect the farmland and open space areas. In that respect, it represents an entirely new and, I must say, refreshing approach to the orderly development of the Town. Had we had such a plan twenty years ago, much of our open land would still be preserved. Or perhaps we have finally recognized that public water and public sewers are going to be necessary eventually and that such high density development is essential to make them economically feasible. On the other hand, this new Master Plan totally ignores the need to secure a source of water to supply not only such new development but, more importantly, the existing areas of higher density and coastal area development. It proposes instead the sale and purchase of development rights as a means of compensating the farmers for the loss of development rights sustained as a consequence of the rezoning. Certainly we must have learned by now that farmland cannot be depended on as a source of potable water in the future. Nor is there any logical reason why the cost of preserving this open space or that source of water, whichever way one chooses to perceive it, should be borne entirely by the owners of the undeveloped land for the sole benefit of the owners of the developed land. Are we still living in that dream world in which open space and potable water are synonymous? Or are we now ready to accept the reality that we must acquire not just the development rights but the controlling ownership of any land we will need for a source of potable water 3 and the reality that it must be acquired quickly before the water suffers any more pollution from pesticides and fertilizer. Viewed from this perspective, the proposed Master Plan is nothing more than a politically inspired plan to redistribute the wealth. How can we take it seriously when it completely ignores the whole problem of the pollution of our water supply by farming, the very crisis it was supposed to address? Here again we ha~e become so preoccupied with using the government to control our neighbors that we have completely overlooked our real problems. Is it any wonder that we have become the most endangered species on earth? There was a time when our experts predicted that we would run out of water so let's examine that possibility. Based on an average annual rainfall of about 40 inches, each acre receives over a million gallons of water per year. If only half of that were pumped, it would supply 50 gallons per day to each of 30 residents of the Town. On that basis one square mile or 640 acres would supply enough water for 20,000 year-around residents. Clearly there is an adequate supply of water to support any practical level of residential development. If we were to purchase the land necessary at a price of $5,000 per acre, the cost would be 3.2 million dollars or $160 per resident to guarantee a supply of potable water in perpetuity. So neither the adequacy of the supply nor the cost of the land is the problem. The real problem is to secure and maintain a pure source. If we werenmt so preoccupied with controlling our neighbors and redistributing their wealth, this Master Plan might have offered a solution to our problem. Our consultants, Raymond~ Parish, Pine & Weiner, Inc.~ are true professionals so I am confident they have produced just the political document we asked for. The fact that it doesnmt address our real needs suggests that we didn't ask them the right questions. I feel certain they can provide us with a plan that does address our needs if we can find the courage to ask them. · Sincerely. ~ William W. Schriever Box 128 Orient, N. Y. 11957 -4- :KLES REAL FEB 17 1984 East Main Road, Southold, New York 1t971 · (516) 765-3416 February 17, 1984 Mr. Henry Raynor, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Raynor: I own a parcel of land where I operate my real estate office on the south side of the Main Road across from the LaGazelle Restaurant. I have owned this property since prior to 1935, and it is now zoned for business purposes and has been so zoned since approximately 1962. On the strength of that business zoning, I established my business on this site. Regardless of the name applied to any new zoning district affecting this area, the future zoning status of this property should allow the same uses presently allowed on this site which is opposite a 100 year old restaurant, a small engine repair business and a professional office. This area is commercial in nature. It would be inappropriate to change the zoning of this parcel. It should remain zoned for business. Very truly yours, frace R. Lewis GRL/mdg MEMBER: New York State Society of Real Estate Appraisers National Association of REALTORS National Institute of Farm & Land Brokers International Real Estate Federation Commercial and Investment Division of NYSAR National Marketing Institute G~c~ R. LL~US BI~XI~ON SOUTHOLD, ~ YORK 11971 FEB 17 1984 February 17, 1984 Henry Raynor, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, NY 11971 Dear Mr. Raynor: I own a parcel of land south of the Main Road in Southold opposite Laurel Lane and east of Arshamomaque Avenue. I have owned this property since 1921. It is now zoned for business and has been zoned for business in its entirety since the Town of Southold adopted zoning in 1957. The property contains eight income producing houses, a marina and a laundromat. It is now the proposal, as set forth on the proposed Master Plan, thatthis property be rezoned so that the southern half is resort commercial and the northern half is medium density residential. The entire parcel should remain zoned, regardless of what it is called, for the uses that are presently allowed under the existing zoning. Very truly yours, GRL/mdg FEB 2 8 Clerk Soufhold 3020 Boisseau Ave.. Southold, NY 11971 February 27, 1985 Southold Town Board Town Hall Southold, NY 11971 Gentlemen, I am writi~ this letter to state my strong belief that Southold's planners should locate a specific area on the M~ster Plan for a town airport and the Town Board should follow through and see that airport established. Southold Town's air space is one of its natural resources that: most~of its citizens don't recognize and only a few appreciate. Ztiis a resource that can be used without abuse. I believe it is the responsibility of t~'~-town to keep that resource available to its citizens. The town can control access to the air with a small airport. To erase an airRor$ from the Master Plan would be to cut that resource and its controloff forever. The one, direct, easy entrance or exit from this dead-end town would be closed. Town fathers in the past had ~the vision to~set aside beaches and launching ramps for the use of ~he p~aple. How stunted our economic, recreatiqna~, and.se~c opportunities would be today without the courage and~vision ef those pia~ners. Now we are in the air-space age. There is Ho~tubning back. Aviation as well as computers will be common tools in-~the future. Many of our young people continue to plan carger~ in some aspect of aviation. An airport:with a single landing ~%rip could Se much more than a place for the landing and ta~ing off of planes. It could be a base for orientation, early training and experience for these young people. I do not favor a tWenty-four hour, all-weather airport. A single landing strip with lateeveni~g closing time would be completely adequate to keep the air space open, to offer business and recre- ational flying, and provide charter service and training oppor- tunities. I believe such an airport could be maintained as a viable operation with no burden to the taxpayer. Opposition to a town airport appears to be the fear-full cry of those who have little knowledge of what it entails and no appre- ciation for the need to control the use of the air space above u~. I believe it leads to isolationism and an early death to a healthy community spirit and economy. I urge the Southold Town Board and the Town Planning Board to study the matter carefully and to ac~ with vision and courage. eebruary ~8, 198~ Mr. Henry Raynor, Chairman Southold Town Planning Board Southold, N.Y. 11971 Dear Mr. Raynor~ Your invitation to the people of the Town of Southold to write to you expressing their thoughts on the new Master Plan was very welcome. I was beginning to feel conspicuous and lonely as one of the few who stand up in Town Hall to ask questions and get information relating to East Ma~ion. Hopefully I think you will find more and more of us at meet- ings. The citizens here are upset and puzzled by the plan. The lack of detailed maps for East Marion at the meeting in Orient (for East Marion and Orient) on February 9th didn't help either. I have been interested in and working for this idea since it started. I went to meetings, talked to neighbors and was one of those who went around with the petition for the moratorium. I sat in one workshop to hear two expe~ts dis- cuss crime and real estate and heard about the "good old days" instead. This is planning? To say that I found the map put out by RPPW strange is putting it mildly. It is not for those who love and work and care for the irreplaceable beauty and resources here, who pay taxes and who support local businesses from Laurel to Orient Point year-round. It is a developer and road builders' dream. Mr. Turner prattles about #farmland preservation" and yet shows a choice of two locations on prime farmland for a 61 acre (for the time being) airport for the use of a small, private interest. Does this benefit a much, much more needed and important buslness...farming which feeds us? We see new roads and widened roads on the map...we are told "not to worry", "only if", "will never happen." Whom do we believe? We have empty stores in each town or hamlet, one large, boarded up shopping center in Mattituck near another under- utilized one, one maybe mall across from Key Food and three possibles around Porkyes in Greenport...one next door, one across the road and one at Brecknock Hall. Don't forget "hamlet commercial" in East Marion and Orient. Did RPPW ever ask any of us about this? Did they ever take a look at Jericho Turnpike further in and notice how all the hamlet centers have spread out on each side and now make one long, uninterrupted strip of ugly commercialism? - Page 2 - The vacation map widely distributed by the Southold Town Promotion Committee reads "It was the SIMPLE LIFE that made LONG ISLAND famous. Sample what remains of the original... nature,s bounty and tranquillty...stlll to be discovered on THE NORTH FORK.' Every ad and article about us says the same. Row much longer will this be true? You cannot support four such demanding industries.as farming, fishing, tourism and development on this fragile land and succeed. Without very limited development and intelligent use of what resources we have left, the result will be van- ishing food supplies, beauty will disappear and all that will be left are Mr. Turner,s roads and developments...some few of them lucky enough to get a view of what were once un- polluted, productive waters. Now for poor little East Marion. We are faced with new developments to cover what open land is left. Is the new proposed, enlarged hamlet commercial center for their benefit? We have a firehouse, post office owned by the community as a war memorial and a seasonal store. We do not need more than that. Please don't let RPPW's 'hamlet commercial zoning" turn the already over-burdened heart of East Narion into nothing but a shoddy business and boarding house center. We already have too much of it with more Just waiting in the wings. I am sorry my letter is so long but I am one of the many who cares what happens to our town. We hope you will listen, lock and act carefully for the future of this very special and lovely place. Thank you. Very truly yours, Marie Smith (Mrs. George W. Smith) B~x 122 - Marion Lane East Marion, N.Y. 11939 cc, Mr. Frank Murphy, Supervisor RECEIVED MAR 5 984 Town Clerk Soul'hold Southold Town Board Southold Town Hall Rt 25 Southold, New York 11971 February 29, 1984 Re: Purposed Town Mas~er Plan Agriculture zoning Gentlemen: I wish to inform the board that as a farmer and land owner in Southold town, I am against up-zoning agriculture property to the purposed 10 acres as appears in the Master Plan Purposal. By doing so, I feel you will be pAacing undo hardship on the farmer, thus, effecting his livelihood, not to mention the eventual future of the town itself.  y yours, ~Joseph A. Wanat -- RFD 1 Box 247 Bergen Avenue Mattituck, New York 11952 Southold Town Planning Board Southold To~n Hall Rt 25 Southold, New York 11971 February 29, 1984 Re: Purposed Town Master Plan Dear Sirs: As an o~ner of farm land within the confines of Southold To~n, I wish to take opposition to the purposed 10 acre zoning for agriculture property so designated in your Town Master Plan purposal. I ~eel you will be placing undo hardship on the local farmer, ~ho has worked both hard and long~ in some instancss, under adverse conditions~ to maintain his properties. Such a zoning regulation will effect the farmers livelihood, not to mention that of the entire township. Sincerely yours, U'~Joseph A. ;'ganat EFD1 Box 247 Bergen Avenue ?~[attituck, Ne~¢ York 11952 OVdf"- 15695 Soundview Ave. Southold, NY llg7! ~r. Henry Raynor Chairman, Southold Town Planning Board Town Hall, Southold, N.Y.11971 March 9, 1984 Dear Sir~ We have attended the informational meetings,have reviewed the proposed plan for SoutholdTown's growth, and would like to make several comments for your consideration. We grew up in Bayview, moved to Nassau County after World War II, returned to Bayview in 1977 and therefore gave this part of the plan our closest scrutiny. The amount of growth has already brought negative changes to this lovely area which until the late forties was mostly f~rmland. T~e vistas of c~ops, leading down to Peconic Bay have almost been replaced by houses, and if the new plan is accepted, will disappear altogether. To further detract from this area, a motel, ~which should not have been permitted in the first place, may be replaced with bondominium units, which will greatly increase the occupancy at this location. The heavy vehicular traffic on Bayview Road now makes it risky to cross over to the mailbox$~what will it be if the proposed population density is allowed? At the informational meeting the point was made that public waste and sewerage systems would be prohibitively expensive for Bayview. Bayview's location at the end of the water table is well known and makes one wonder what the effect of more housing will be on this limited resource. Overtaxing the roads, threaten- ing the water supply, and spoiling the natural beauty of Bayvtew makes us unhappy with the proposed plan. We feel that a much better use of the land 'would be to leave it as faz~and. .More fundamentally, we question the amount of growth to the town, amd wonder if a lower ultimate growth wouldn't be a wiser approach. We know firsthand hew the quality of life is reduced by excessive growth. In Nassau County our backyard abutted a farm. We had our own well, cesspool, and heard crickets at night during the summer. There is no need to describe what happened within a few years, for you have heard the stoz~y many times, but unless,~you have experienced the transformation from a rural to a suburban community, you can't appreciate the undesi~ble aspects of such a change. Some of the criticism of our present size and makeup are the lack of jobs, housing, and the tax base. More people always requi~e services costing far in excess of tax revenue. Forexample~ if our present police force of thirty-six was doubled, it would not be sufficient if the population doubled. The increased expense is obvious, but doesn't this also suggest something about the life we would have if this comes to pass? The makeup of our population, many retirees, Jobs and housing, are interelated in that an a~ng population means a high attrition rate with a consequent turnover of housing. Job opportunities in services will remain at a high level. No community can guarantee jobs for all of its young people nor do all of its young people want to stay in the place where they grew up. Many will move to environments and careers that will never be available "at home". To try their talents elsewhere is not am harsh as it is portrayed; it is nice to return and find their hometown recognizable. -2- Furthermore, while speculators espouse concern for our youth who are unable to buy a house without two incomes, where isn,t that the case today? Do any of the people voicing this concern say that they will in anyway contribute to low cost housing er higher paying jobs? Propez~y in Southold Town is highly desirable, commands a high price, and will continue to do so. Given these conditions, it is hard to imagine any changes that ~ll make it less costly to live here. Doubling the population will only drive all costs higher~ We recognize that some limited growth will ta~e place, but feel that in planning for it there is a better ultimate than the one proposed. For starters, why not dr~w the line at a point where public water and sewerage systems must be installed as a condition of growth? Why not project service increases by no more than thirty percent, then make population projections from this point? Why nor apportion farmland to each area where it now exists instead of having "strip farmland"? Why not give more thought to why people wish to come to this beautiful area, and make every effort to maintain its character? All it takes is a drive to the South Fork to see the negative effects of changing from a rural, to an overbuilt,overpopulated a~ea.. The overall effect of this plan proposes to have everyone pay for something that only a few stand to gain from. If a doctor proposed to inject a person with a virus that would make him uncomfortable for the rest of his life, and then asked a high fee for this service, the off.er would probably be rejected. A parallel can be drawn between this proposal and what is being offered by the Southold Town Master Plan. We will appreciate any consideration that you may give to these thoughts. Sincerely yours i ' Wesle~ and Agnes Dickinson Bayview Road, Southold, N.Y. 11971 MATTITUCK CREEK WATCHDOGS ~ATTITUCK, NE~.4 YORK ~SuDervisor Frank }~urphy and /the T?wn Board Pla~nlnE Roard Zonln~ Board Gent lemen: ~areh 9, 1984 With four preliminary meetings now behind ua, it should he very obvious that there is much amiss with the proposed '%{aster Plan". Directly affected are the residents in areas of proposed zoning changes. This end of the island, will not aeeomodate the type of p~pu- lation increase that you are so eagerly soliciting,- We have already reached maximum population density. There are alterna- tives. Now is the time for very strict zoning, not rezonin~. Not one person has mentioned the railroad. This is already established and going to waste, revitalize the railroad for shipping and transportation by nroviding realistic rates for the populace. We do not need more roads, another airport, more bua%nessea, etc. Any and all of these only add to the total destruction of this tranquil area. We are supposed to have a wetlands ordinance, yet the Master Plan itself pro~ose.s the further destruction of considerably more of the wetlands now existin~ on Mattituck Creek. Our shellfish at the mouth of the Creek are already polluted, and now we are discussin~ businesses from Wnollwood Lane on up on the c~eek. We all have seen what this means with the already existing marinas, . It is an ever spreading cancer on our creek, always more, more, m~e . Yet we have here a '~ASTER PLANNER" who DrODoses even more destruction. What about the people who have paid to use its beaches;(now cluttered with garbage) fish, clam and en~oy its natural,hopefully unpolluted beauty. This master plan will ~OTALL¥ DE~TROY IT, We have already done too much damage to ~attituck Creek. What good is the seafood in our creek if we cannot eat it, and if you bulkhead the beaches, where are the estuaries necessary for our fish nurseries going to be? Roads, and business a~e what destroy an area, any area. We are a group of sixty-seven (67) families, and wish to respectfully request your attention to the following items:- - 1 - %Je do not need nor want another Airport on the North Fork, especially on our beautiful, pristine Sound Bluffs.. This would disturb the peace and tranquility of the residents with noise, traffic and more pollution to the environment, especially on Grand Avenue, }{atti- tuck, which leads to the North Road of the proposed Airport. .. No further business to be established .AT THE ~o~rH OF ~IE MATTITUCK CREEK. This should remain natural, uncluttered and a thing of beauty with beaches and wetlands undisturbed. This unflushinK area has already had too much impact put upon it. it cannot stand any more. ~'ro further development of any ~{ARINE COmmERCIAL ~qTAT'~S above Mnollwood Lane on Mattituck Creek. It is incon- ceivable that any Master Plan would do this to the resi- · dents of this Lane. It {.s a definite property devalua- tion, and most of all another terrible assault on the - waterfront and creek itself. A FishinM Cannery is unthinkable. 4LL OV TH~, ABOVE WOULn ADD CONSIDERANLY TO THE INCREASE IN NOISE, TRAFFIC, POLLHTION AND PEACEFHL TP.~NOUILITY OF THIS REA~rrIFUL AREA. As one person put it at the last meeting:- "Lea,,e it alone, we like it the way it is ." We would like to see some thou.~,ht put into the image of the Villa~.e as it is annroached, particularly from the Riverhead area. Buildings could be designed to present a colonial imam,., or something consistent with the character of the area, as it is we are getting more and more unattrac- tive. ~No thouqht whatsoever has been ~iven to the appearance of our Village as a whole.3 This is and ~as been primarily a tourist area, once we lose whatever it is that has attracted so many peoDle~we cannot ever remain it. We sincerely trust the Supervisor and Town Board wil~ consider our wishes with re~ar~! to this Proposed Master Plan. Very truly yours ~{ATTITUCK CREEK WATCHDOGS DOROTH ,A ~. DELEHAL~I~f ~ President ' 1984 r~lN~' T'U ~ HILL P. O. Box 192 n.,~.*~ ~. 11957 JUDITH T. TERRY TOWN CLERK REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1801 November 21, 1985 Rudolph H. Bruer, Esq. Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Dear Rudy: In response to your letter of October 17, 1985 relative to the property of Henry J. Smith at Willow Hill, Southold and the proposed zoning for this parcel, the Town Board held a map review of the proposed updated zoning map on November 15, 1985, at which time this parcel was discussed. It was the decision of the Town Board to leave this area in the proposed "Limited Business" district. However, they are exploriri§ the possibility of expanding the scope of uses in the "Limited Business" district which is outlined in the proposed updated zoning ordinance. It should be pointed out that their decision is by no means final at this point in time. There will be hamlet meetings conducted after the first of the year, followed by public hearings relative to the final adoption of the map and ordinance. These dates will all be announced well in advance in the local newspapers. Very truly yours, Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk cc: Planning Board Appeals Board Building Department JUDITH T. TERRY TOWN CLERK REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 728 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1801 REMINDER The Town Board, at your November 7th Work Session, said you would discuss the request of Henry J. Smith for a change of zoning classification on his property on the south side of Main Road, at Willow Hill, Southold. Perhaps you would like to address this at the November 15th meeting with the Planning Board. October 17, 1985 Southold Town Board Town Hall Main Road Southold, N.Y. 11971 Att: Frank Murphy, Supervisor Dear Mr. Murphy: Please be advised that we represent Mr. Henry J. Smith, the owner of premises on the south side of Main Road, Southold, at Willow Hill, adjacent to the Chevron Station. It has come to Mr. Smith's attention that these premises, under Southold Town Proposed zoning Regulations, is listed to be "Limited Business". We feel that this proposed zoning is inconsistent with the present use of the premises, and Mr. Smith's intended use of the premises. We feel that the proposed zoning should be the equivalent of the present business zone or, at least,"Hamlet Business" as set forth in the new regulations. The subject premises are located between a restaurant/bar to the west and a commericial full-service gasoline station to the east. Across the street and east of the premises is a commercial marina abutting a hardware store. To change the zone of these premises to something of a non-conforming nature will be a hardship and in our opinion improper planning. We are sure that the proposed zoning for this property is the result of an oversight and was not what was intended by the Town Planners or the Town Board. We therefore request that you correct the proposed zoning for this property. My clients and I would be happy to discuss this with you any time. We would appreciate hearing from you in the very near future regarding this matter. at SincL~rely, Rudolph/H. Bruer cc: Henry F. Smith Certified Mail FEB ? 19BI~ I VING L. Proof, Jrt. P.O. Box E a~s~-~o~rrs'mzz'r GREENPORT, L. L. N. Y. i1~)44 February 12, 1986 Southold Town Hoard Town Hall Southold, NY 11971 Gentlemen: It has come to our attention that under the proposed Zoning Regulations (,Master Plan") my clients' vested rights in his property would be eliminated. My client, Richard F. Mullen, Jr., owns property on the south side of the Main Road in Southold occupied as an automobile showroon, repairs, mnd car lot; a typical automobile dealership. The use of this property as such commenced over thirty (30) years ago. It is an upgraded facility that moved from premises across the road, the use of which as a dealership was commenced nearly sixty (60) years ago. See request of Esther Pilles submitted simultaneously. It is proposed to include these premises in "Hamlet Business {HB) District, Article IX-l" which does not allow the use of the premises for an auto dealership. The continued use of these premises as now used is, however, permitted under proposed "General Business (B-i) Districtt Article X. It is adcordingly requested that the use of these premises be Changed to proposed General Business (B-l) District, Article X, before the proposed zoning regulations are adopted. This should be to the depth of the present district lines. Very truly yours, ILP/lg CERTIFIED MAIL RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED Irving L. Price, Jr. FEB 2 6 SOUTHOLD FLOOR COVERING, INC. ROUTE 48 PECONIC, N.Y. 11958 FEBRUARY 13, 1986 Ladies and Gentelmen of Southold Town Board Southold Floor Covering, east of Carrol Ave. on route 48 in Peconic ! I came to Southold in October 1974 and bought my business from Mr. Daniel Smith, at that time he also sold his store on Main Rd. in Southold. The only store I could find to rent at the time was on Rt.48 in Peconic. In October of 1976 we bought the two stores in between EeCo Electrical Corp., owned and operated by M~.. Cliford Cornell and North Shore Canvas, owned by Mr, Helmut Hass. Our property was two Real Estate offices at that time, which were also owned by Helmut Hass, The time before that the property was ova. ed by Charlie Habbard, and was used as a saw mill and heavy industrial. Helmut Hass property is to the west of me, which is presently Zone ~. Cliford Cornell whos prgperty is to the east of me is also ~ Zone. On one map I see my property is Zoned light business and on another map it is down as Agricultural. I would appreciate it if you would look into this matter, we feel that since our property was the only one in this given area used ~sr heavy industrial, it should also be Zoned ~. Sincerely: /FIoor Covering, Inc. IrEl110 The Southold Town Board Town Hall $outhold, NY 11971 FEa 2 41986 Wiss~nthia Halsey 55 Oaklawn Avenue Southold, NY 11971 Dear Members, I am concerned about a new category in the proposed revision of our Town ~aster P~an. of zoning The ~rea in which I lave, at present zoned Residential- Agricultural, appears in the proposed new zoning as Residential- Office. (RO) ~n Southold hamlet, RO includes the south side of 5rain Road ( Rt. 25) from tho Presbyterian cemetery on the east to the Universalist ch~rch on the west, the north side of ~ain Road from Horton's Lane to the Catholic church and bo~h sides of Oaklawn A~enue including the southwest corner and on the east from the Main Road corner to the cemetery gate. This area is to be included under revised article VII. In section lO0-71 B~2 ~iness offices are included. Nowhere can I find a definition of busingss ~-~e, although professional offices and ali other proposed/penmitted uses are defined. I urge you mo~t emphatic&ly to define the meaning e~ business officer before such a use is included. It will h~ve to be de~'ined smetime ao~ it is m rely better to do it early rather t~uan late. ~ince I own and reside in the property on the soushwest corner of Wain Road at Oaklawn Avenue this matter is of great concern to me, both with regard to the sta~e of my property and the agreeable character ~f living in it. Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look f~ward to receiving a copy of y~ur definition as soon as it is avai la ble. Sincerely, Cynthia Blyth Halsey MAR 31986 Ma-~n Road So~thold, New York February 25, 1986 Southold Town Board Southold, New York Dear Board Memberst Re~ Master Plan for Southold It has come to my attention that the Master Plan includes a change of classification for my property ( on north side of Main Road, between properties of Dr. Ross and La Gazelle) from "business" to "residential/office". This property has been zoned "business" since at least 1928, when it was listed as Point oC View Inn. I bought the property in good faith as bus~ess propertv, and I have been conducting my small en%ine repair shop there for the last 25 years. Since I am presently on vacation in Florida, I feel I must out in writin% ~V objection to your plan to remove us from the "business" classification and put us in any other category. Ihis would reduce the value of the property now, and for any future sale or exchanges Thank you for your consideration of my situation. Very tn]ly yours, Louis B. Barnett ESSEKS, HEFTER, CUDDY ~ ANGEL FEB 2 ? COUNSELORS AT LAW P. O. Box 279 RIVERHEAD, N.Y. 1~90I (516) 369-1700 TELEX-EHCA 6852318 UW February 26, 1986 WATER MILL OFFICE MONTAUK HIGHWAY P. O. Box 570 WATER MILL~ N,Y. 11976 (5~6) 7~6-6633 Town Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York 11971 Dear Board Members: We represent Grace R. Lewis who owns approximately six acres of property on the south side of Route 25, east of the intersection of Town Harbor Road and Route 25. She has owned this property since 1921 and has operated a real estate office on said property since 1962. This property is presently zoned for Light Business purposes pursuant to the existing zoning code. The proposed revised code would have this property placed in the Residential Office ("RO") District together with nearby parcels. It is submitted that the RO District proposal is inappropriate for the subject property and will have an adverse economic effect upon the subject owners of the parcels, without a corresponding benefit to the Town. The zoning status of the area is already established through the existence of the following business enterprises: Veterinary Hospital, car dealership, florist, delicatessen/grocery store, repair shop and restaurant. To make these parcels nonconforming, in an to establish a rural character to the area, damaging without attaining the end sought. after the fact attempt is economically The Town's experience with attempts like this is similar to the experiences of other east-end communities. To establish non- conforming uses is to perpetuate, often, economically and unusually unattractive (but existing) businesses. Where uses are nonconforming, the property owners have a choice of continuing the nonconforming use rather than allowing the property to be used only for the conforming (here residential) use permitted by the revised code. Thus, the community is vested with economic and visual stagnation. Town Board Town of Southold Page Two February 26, 1986 Finally, most owners and neiqhbors neither want the nonconforming uses nor the vacant parcels for the then conforming uses. No one is happy. The area is then locked in a conflict between the conforming and nonconforming uses. A more reasonable approach would be to arrive at a business use with appropriate setbacks and architectural and sign controls which allow existing business uses to be either continued or modified as economics dictate and the vacant parcels to be developed in an econominical and intelligent fashion. I ask the Town Board to reconsider its position with regard to this and surrounding parcels and to determine and adopt a more approgriate business use district. Very truly yours, William W. Esseks W~WE :cf JUN 41986 I VIN L. Praxis., JR. ATTORNEY AT ~W June 3, 1986 Southo~d Town Board Town,~all Southold, NY 11971 Gentlemen: Re: Mullen and Pilles On February 12, 1986 I wrote you with regard to the change of zone under the proposed Master Plan for the premises of above in Southold, which together are used as an automobile dealership. I enclose copies of said letters. I have examined the proposed revisions of the map and observe that this dealership'is to be made a non-conforming use, which I believe is confiscatory. The situation can be remedied by two methods: 1) Change the zoning to "General Business (B-i) District"under Article X. 2) Amend the provisions of "Hamlet Business (HB)" Article X-1 to allow automobile dealership as a permitted use. If you wished, the suggestion 2) above could be limited to a certain premise area so as to prevent any proliferation. Thank you for your consideration. ILP:fae Enc. CC: Southold Planning Boar~ Mullen Motors, Inc. Yours very truly,/~ /~ Irvin~ L. Price, Jr. RECEIVED AUG t986 Town ~oard Town of Southold Southold, ?~ 11971 July 29, 1986 Gentlemen: We are the present owners ~ the Ceneral Wayne Ihn ~estaurant in the town of Southold, ~,~ew York, 11971. At the present time we are studying the master plan where indication is that the property we now own will not be zoned for ~-1 ~ltiple hotels, motels units and restaurant combined, instead it will be changed to "Limited Dusiness" which we are very concerned about. Both Duane Seaman and Victor Farinha have on purchase of the property the existing CO which states clearly what can be done ther. This was the understanding upon acquiring~the General Wayne Inn Restaurant. Sirs, as you must already realize, much work, time and money was spent improvin§ and building a proper place of beauty and a decent type of restaurant. ~ most certainly want to keep improving and expanding within reason. Ey limitin§ our business it would mean taking our rights away and turning us into a hardship case. Limitin§ our business will decrease the value of the General Wayne Inn as a whole. Taking away the value and restricting its use will prove to be unsatisfactory for the benefit of the town and for all who have worked, planned and added ~x~ra income to their weekly paychecks around the area. Increasing the General Wayne with all the help we can get should prove to be beneficial for other people and families flocking to such a lovely area. We do have plans and the need of adding extra rooms (hotel) (motel) for all our catering needs when we have weddings and parties of all types including tourists coming for the summer and all year round. When we took the "Wayne" it was in bad shape, it is over 200 years old and looking §ood because much loving intentions have been put into it. Ail this should be taken into consideration. A response will be greatly appreciated. Most Respectfully Yours, The families of Duane Seaman and Victor Farinha DS/rd THOMAS A. TWOMEY. JR. STEPHEN B. LATHAM JOHN F. SHEA. Itl CHRtSTOPHER D. KELLEY LAWRENCE M. STORM' MAUREEN T. LICCIONE 'ALSO A~)MITTE[} IN CONNECTICUT TWOMEY, LATHA~{, SHEA & KELLEY ATTORNEYS AT LAW RIVERHEAD, NE%V YORK 11901 $16-727-2180 February 13, 1987 9 NORTH MAIN STREET EAST HAMPTON. N.¥, 11937 516-324't 200 RECEIVED FEi i 7 1987 T~ 0~'~' ~n,~hold Town Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold,. NY 11971 RE: Proposed Master Plan for the Town of Southold, Sage Boulevard and Adjacent Area Dear Supervisor Murphy and Members of the Board: Thank you for your time and patience in listening and considering the expert testimony presented at Wednesday's public hearing on the Master Plan. In the Memorandum of Law that I submitted, I attached exhibits A and B which were letters from Bayview Realty Development Corp. I enclose herewith the originals that were not submitted on Wednesday. As I explained at the hearing, I hope to have the final written report of Mr. Reuter for submission the first part of next week. Sin~e r el.Y, to Kelley CK/bb encs. cc: Henry Weismann Frank Flynn BAYVIEW REALTY DEVELOPMENT CORP. 120 Mineola Boulevard P.O. Box 31 Mineola, New York 11501 January 21, 1987 Twomey, Latham, Shea and Kelley, Esqs. 33 West Second Street Riverhead, New York 11901 Attention: Christopher Kelley, Esq. RE: Proposed Master Plan for Town of Southold Sage Boulevard and Adjacent Area Southold, New York Dear Chris: Enclosed herewith you will find a copy of my letter to the Town of Southold. As we have discussed on numerous occasions, we believe that the existing zoning for our property on Sage Boulevard should remain low density residential. In connection with a plan which we submitted to the Town, we had agreed to donate the underwater land to a nature conservancy wherein its natural beauty and resource could be preserved for future generations. In addition, we denied enlarged access for commercial uses to show our commitment against further commercial development on Sage Boulevard. JDF/js We hereby authorize you to advise the Town Board of the Town of Southold that we are opposed to the proposed zoning for the Sage Boulevard area and hereby authorize you to submit the enclosed let- ter to the Town Board on our behalf. Very truly yours, ,, ~ / ~EY . . FO~LLI, President BAYVIEW REALTY DEVELOPMENT CORP. 120 Mineola Boulevard P.O. Box 31 Mineola, New York 11501 January 21, 1987 Hon. Francis Murphy, Supervisor and Members of the Town Board Town of Southold Main Road Southold, New York 11971 RE: Proposed Master Plan for Town of Southold Sage Boulevard and Adjacent Area Southold, New York Dear Supervisor Murphy and Members of the Board: I write this letter to express our strenuous opposition to the proposed Master Plan wherein same would rezone a portion or our property and the adjacent property on Sage Boulevard in Southold. The proposed zoning constitutes poor planning, spot zoning and would devalue the adjacent residential properties which include the balance of our property on Sage Boulevard. The area is presently committed to residential use and we be- lieve it should remain residential. We are opposed to the proposed zone and request that the exist- ing zone be left intact. JDF/js Very yours, truly ~ ~. By~ . FO~HELLI, President 5130 North Road to Bayview Southold, New York 11971 January 22, 1987 The Town Board Town of Southold Town Hall Southold, New York 11971 Attention: Ms. Judith Terry Dear Sirs: As a voting resident of S6uthold, this is to register my opposition to the new Marine Business District proposed by the current version of the Master Plan. The expanded usages permitted by the MB zone are inappropriate for most of the town creeks where the Master Plan indicates MB zoning. For obvious reasons of pollution, congestion and general deterioration of the environment, both physical and aesthetic, the new MB zone should be kept out of the town creeks, or at least those which are not already fully commercialized (e.g., Stifling). The suggestion of the Conservation Advisory Council that Article XII, Marine Business, be restricted to fully commercialized creeks and the bays, and that a new, more limited use Article XI, Marina - Recreational, be applied to the balance of the town creeks, would seem to be a good solution. On a separate subject, I understand that the Agricultural- Conservation zone is effectively the same as the R-80 zone (i.e., 2 acre residential), except that Subdivisions over 10 acres require mandatory clustering of one acre housing/one acre open space. Just how the A-C zone helps to preserve farming, open space and our rural environment - so important to many residents and to the continuation of our tourist economy - eludes me. Add to this an undetermined number of previously applied for and approved subdivisions for one acre zoning which have been or may yet be "grandfathered,,, and we have a further erosion of the theory of the Master Plan. The A-C District seems not to be what it's name implies. The long term reality of the currently proposed Master Plan will be far different than the stated objective of controlled growth coupled with preservation of open spaces, unless some teeth are given to the A-C zone definition and administration. The Town Board January 22, 1987 Page Two I urge you to give these issues due consideration before legislating the current version of the Master Plan into existence. I have been appalled at the time it has taken the Board to get the Master Plan in place - some four years now, I believe. Be that as it may, now that the Board seems to be refocusing its energies on the Plan and trying to get it finished at last, please don't make the mistake of overreacting to past inaction and push a still not fully refined Plan into being. Finally, as one of many w~ekend residents in the town of Southold, I resent the continued disregard of this segment of the population by always scheduling public hearings on weekdays. On such important matters, weekend work by all of us is what is called for. Should tonight's meeting be postponed by the snowstor~ now raging, please consider rescheduling on a weekend with sufficient advance notice. Thank you. Sincerely yours, Paul E. Hale cc: Ruth Oliva