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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01/25/1986The Southold Town Board held a hamlet meeting at Fishers Island on Saturday, January 25, 1986 at 2:00 p.m. at the Fishers Island School. Present were: Councilman-Justice Raymond Edwards Councilwoman Jean Cochran Councilman George Penny Planning Baord Chairman Bennett Orlowski, Jr. Mr. Harry Ferguson, President of the Fishers Island Civic Association, introduced the members of the Town Board and the Chairman of the Planning Board. Mr. Ferguson requested that an explanation be given as to what aspects of the Master Plan, as it pertains to Fishers Island have been changed since the last presentation. Mr. Orlowski: The last presentation was made in November and the input of that meeting was with regard to the zoning of the airport property and the Ferry District property. I think we have addressed them by making the airport property 10-acre zoning and I believe the Town Board has since tied up by resolution the Ferry District land or the land which the Town owns and the Ferry District uses. But, since I have been here last November and made the presentation, in April we handed in our version of the Master plan complete to the Town Board and it now sits in the Town Boards hands and they have thoroughly reviewed it and also made some changes themselves. They are holding hamlet meetings at this time, there will be five hamlet meetings, this being own of them. At this point I think it is the Town board and councilman who can add to some of this and we are here to answer some questions, instead of a presentation. Judge Edwards, do you have anything which you would like to add to that. Councilman Edwards: ask the questions. I have no questions, let the people Councilwoman Cochran: After we go through the hamlet meetings we will be siting down again as a Board to review any input that the people at the hamelt meetings have given us. Following that, of course, we will go through the process of public hearings and so forth, but I think our main purpose of being here today is to answer if we can, and with Benny, I am sure we can, any questions which you may have in relation to either the zone map or the regulations that have come down. Hamlet meetings Page 2 1/25/86 Serge Doyan: I don't understand, is this an official hamlet meeting? Councilwoman Cochran: This is the hamlet meeting, I believe the way Mr. Murphy set it up. Mr. Doyan: This is it. Councilwoman Cochran: Yes. Mr. Doyan: Okay. Then this is the first one. Councilwoman Cochran: This is the first one, of five. Councilman Edwards: The other ones are following right away there are two or three before the month is out. Councilwoman Cochran: There are two at the end of the month and two the beginning of next week. Councilman Edwards: Orient it the 29th, Mattituck the 30th, Cutchogue February 6, and Southold February 7. So all the hamlet meetings are scheduled this time and this is the first one. Mr. Ferguson: And there are no other legally required public meetings which will be held after the hamlet meetings and before the Town Board meeting which will be held to discuss this? Councilman Penny: No, there will be a public hearing. Mr. Ferguson: A public hearing? Councilman Edwards: Right. In the Town of Southold. Mr. Ferguson: At which everyone can come to again. Councilman Edwards: At the public hearing any and all letters will be read in to the record if any one has any concerns at the public hearing and cannot attend, letters to the Town will be accepted and read at that hearing. Councilwoman Cochran: They will be read into the record. Mr. Ferguson: Is there any date for that public hearing? Councilman Penny: No. Mr. Ferguson: What is a possible time table for setting the public hearing and adopting the master plan? Councilman Penny: I think everything depends on the hamlet meetings. We are here for input we are not hear to tell you what is going on, supposedly all the information has been here for enough time that we are supposed to respond Hamlet Meeting Page 3 1/25/86 Councilman Penny: to you and take that response back. Now if the hamlet meetings all go very quietly which hopefully they will, then we can set the public hearing right away. If the hamlet meetings are intense and there are some real problems that pop up then we basically have to regroup. So we have not set the final determination hearing because we have no idea. We have no idea how these hamlet meetings will go. Question: It might be misleading if these people leave here without any comment, it is difficult to focus on this by even looking at the wall map and reading the handout which we received today and the synopsis. I know we had a presentation before but I know Ken Edwards has been very active. Do we have a high comfort level that Ken has come away from this feeling comfortable with the final resolution that they are looking at here and whether the civic association or anybody representing it has had a chance to look at it. It is totally beyond me and I'm afraid that it may be misleading if this meeting is quite. Is Ken comfortable to know that we have the best plan. Mr. Orlowski: I talked to Ken. Ken is in Florida and could not make the meeting and that is why I'm here. We are going to have a Planning Board member at everyhamlet meeting. It is out of our hands now, we put it togethor. Ken, I asked that question to him, are you happy with it. And, he said yes and I am here to convey that message from him. But, he is on the Island and if you do have any problems defenitly get back to him he is in within reach, you can even throw things at him. We are in Southold and we are not that close but he is here to listen to your questions and problems before this all goes to public hearing. Mr. Ferguson: He indicated that to not it quite the same words, but he had no problems. me this week also, did indicate that he Question: I wondered if there had been a major change other than the 10-acre zoning. Mr. Orlowski: No. Mr. Ferguson: Other than the 10-acres for the parade grounds, which was a change. Mr. Orlowski: The 1--acres, yes, that is what we talked about. Question: What was the change made. Mr. Ferguson: The change is that they now show 10-acre zoning on the parade ground. Comment: But, beyond that we have a Town Board resolution, that is substantially stronger than even the zoning. Perhaps you should explain that, what the Town Board did vote on. Hamlet Meetinl Page 4 1/25/86 Councilman Edwards: The town Board voted on a resolution that was proposed by the Fishers Island Ferry district that takes control of the property away from the Town Board and gives it to the Commissioners of the Ferry District. Anything that could be done, shall be cleared by the Ferry District. (There was a continuing discussion on the resolution which was passed by the Town board regarding this Town owned property which the Ferry District uses.) Mr. Ferguson: In terms of the zoning designation which is aplicable to the entire open space area including Elizabeth Field is 10-acre zoning. So the report from the Trust for Public Land indicated that once you cut out the land that could not be built on due to FAA requirements or due to the land being a coastal barrier zone that could not be built on; that there were about 50 acres that could be built on. Therefore, there could be 5 houses with 10 acre zoning. Question: What about the Navy property, how is that treated? Mr. Ferguson: The Town of Montauk found out when they tried to rezone property there which the government that the government did not want to go along with it. The question raised is was the same degree of protection of that Naval property wasdesired as the parade grounds. How is the Navy property zoned right now. Mr. Orlowski: It is all 10 acre. I think when I was here the last time, we talked about an open space zone and Easthampton and Southampton put it in, but that is not a zone, in court we felt that it would be flimsy. If it was challenged or questioned by an environmental group but it has yet to be challenged by a land speculator. We don't want to put it into the position that it does get challenged. To go over 10 acres is a little discriminatory also, but 10 acre zone in this small area is a safe zone and it will be left that way and it just happens to be some of the Navy propoerty. If it is sold, it is 10-acre zoning. We don't want to get challenged since everything is relatively alot smaller. Some one might fight it. This way, we have something that is workable for everyone and will probably hold up very well in court. Mr. Ferguson: Is my understanding that Robins Island is the only other area in the Town that has 10-acre zoning? Mr. Orlowsk: Yes. And no one out here has more than 10-acre zoning. Mr. Ferguson: And the reasons for Robins Island is because of groundwater, etc. Mr. Orlowski: Yes. Mr. Ferguson: Mr. Edwards, do you think the Navy property will continue to stay or in the near future will the sell. Hamlet Meetin~ Page 5 1/25/86 Councilman Edwards: No, they are continuing to spend money there and I don't see them leaving for the next few years or so. Mr. Ferguson: Except for upgrading the zoning nothing else has changed. Mr. Orlowski: No. Just there were a few questions asked about the B1 zoning and we changed that back to basically what is existing in conformance and left it all as it is. Mr. Ferguson: The North Hill area is 2-acre zoning and it had been 1-acre zoning. Mr. Orlowski: That was something else we got out of our last meeting and we addressed it. Question: The only thing, boatels are not mentioned in the zoning code, where does that fit into zoning, dock for boat with motel. The Building Department, I understand, had a request for a boatel. Councilman Penny: That,I believe, is in the Marine Business and Marine Recreation zoning catagory. Someone is asking for it right now. Resort- Residential, it is not covered in the condensed version. Mr. Orlowski: There did not appear to be any problems when we were here last time, so we have not put anything here. There is a Marine Business which is the Ferry District property and other than that we did not address any boatel or motel use because there was a loud voice against it at that time. There was a request that copies of the proposal be sent to every land owner on Fishers Island, however, it was decided that that would be much too costly to do. It was noted that the library has copies of the map and the zoning. There was also a side discussion regarding affodable housing on Fishers Island and the accessory apartment law which the Town Board just adopted. (Prior to the hamlet meeting, the Fishers Island Civic Association had a meeting to review a questionaire about living on Fishers Island and the answers obtained. This will be sent to the Town Board after it is reviewed by the Committee conducting the study.) Being no further comments regarding the proposed Master P Plan, the meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted, FRANCIS J. MURPHY SUPERVISOR -SOL MAIN ROAD $OUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765-1800 (516) 765-1939 SYNOPSIS OF PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE for HAMLET MEETINGS JANUARY & FEBRUARY, 1986 -2- List of new districts A-C - Agricultural -Conservation District (Two acre minimum) R-80 - Residential Low Density District (Two acre minimum) R-40 - Residential Low Density District (One acre minimum) R-120 - Residential Low Density District (Three acre minimum) R-200 - Residential Low Density District (Five acre minimum) Residentiali, Low Density District (Ten acre minimum) I' R-400 - HD - Hamlet Density Residential District RR - Resort Residential District RO - Residential Office District HB - Hamlet Business District LB Limited Business District B-1 General Business District M-Rec - Marine Recreation District MB - Marine Business District LIO - LI - Light Industrial Park/Office Park District Light Industrial District -3- Purpose of each District Agricultural-Conservation A-C District Low Density Residential R-80~ ~-120~ R-200~ R-400 District~ Section 100-30. Purpose. The purpose of the Agricultural-Conservation (A-C) District and the Low Density Residential R-80, R-120, R-200 and R-400 Districts is to reasonably control, and to the extent possible prevent, the unnecessary loss of those currently open lands within the Town containing large and contiguous areas of p~ime agricultural soils which are the basis for a significant portion/of the Town's economy and those areas with sensitive environmental features including aquifer recharge areas and bluffs. In addition these areas provide the open rural environ- ment so highly valued by year-round residents and those persons who support the Town of Southold's recreation, resort and second home economy. The economic , social and aesthetic benefits which can be obtained for all citizens by limiting loss of such areas are well documented, and have inspired a host of governmental programs designed, with varying degrees of success, to achieve this result. For its part, the Town is expending large sums of money to protect existing farm acreage. At the same time, the Town has an obligation to exercise its authority to reasonably regulate the subdivision and development of this land to further the same purposes, while honoring the legitimate interests of farmers and other farmland owners. Low Density Residential R-40 District Section 100-30A. Purpose. The purpose of the Low Density Residential R-40 District is to provide areas for residential development where existing neighbor- hood characteristics, water supply and environmental conditions permit full development densities of approximately one dwelling per acre and where open space and agricultural preservation are not predominate objectives. Hamlet Density Residential (HD) District Section 100-40. Purpose The purpose of the Hamlet Density (HD) Residential District is to (1) permit a mix of housing types and level of residential density appropriate to the areas in and around the major hamlet centers, particularly Mattituck, Cutchogue, Southold, Orient and the Village of Greenport and (2) to promote the provision of lower cost housing in these hamlet and village areas, where provision of utilities exists or may be possible and desirable and where public facilities and commercial activities are available. -4- Resort Residential (RR) District Section 100-50. Purpose. The purpose of the Resort Residential (RR) District is to provide opportunity for waterfront resort development in what are essential low density residential areas at a density and character consistent with surrounding uses. Residential Office (RO) District Section 100-70. Purpose. To provide a transition area between business areas and low density residential development along major roads which will provide oppor- tunity for limited nonresidential uses in essentially residential areas. Limited Business (LB) District Section 100-80. Purpose. The purpose of the Limited Business District (LB) is to provide an opportunity to accomodate limited business activity along high- way corridors, but in areas outside the hamlet central business areas that is consistent with the rural and historic character of surrounding areas and uses. Emphasis will be placed on review of design features so that existing and future uses will not detract from surrounding uses. The additional uses must generate low amounts of traffic and be designed to protect the residential and rural character of the area. Hamlet Business (HB) District Section 100-90. Purpose. The purpose of the Hamlet Business (HB) District is to provide for business development in the hamlet central business area, including retail, office and service uses, public and semi-public uses, as well as hotel and motel and multi-family residential development that will support and enhance the retail development and provide a focus for the hamlet area. General Business (B-I) District Section 100-100. Purpose. The purpose of the General Business/Highway Business (B-i) District is to provide for retail and wholesale commercial development and limited office and industrial development outside of the hamlet central business areas, generally along major highways. It is designated to accomodate uses that benefit from large parcels o~ land, and that may involve characteristics such as heavy trucking and noise. -5- Marine Recreation (M-Rec) District Section 100-110. Purpose. To permit and encourage water-related recreational uses on waterfront properties that are located on inland waterways or creeks. Marine Business (MB) District Section 100-120. Purpose. To provide a waterfront location for a range of water dependent and water related uses which are those uses which require or benefit from direct access to~ or location in marine or tidal waters. Light Industrial Park/Planned Office Park (LIO) Distric~ Section 100-130. Purpose. The purpose of the Light Industrial Park/Planned Office Park (LIO) District is to provide opportunity for the location of business and professional offices, research facilities, industrial uses and similar activities in an open, campus-like setting in areas which are not appropriate for commercial activity or low density residential development. In this area such uses can be established in an attractive environment and serve both as a means of preserving the open qualities of an area and providing an area, adjacent to hamlet areas where such uses can be appropriately developed with suitable protection for ground and water surface waters. All uses must conform to Suffolk County Health Department standards. Light Industrial (LI) Distr~ct Section 100-140. Purpose. The purpose of the Light Office (LI) District is to provide an opportunity for business and industrial uses on smaller lots than would be appropriate for the LIO Light Industrial Park/Planned Office Park District. The pages to follow are copies of the Table entitled. Summary of Permitted Uses Accessory apartment lB existing one-family delached dwelling Agriculture (~ncluding accessory buildings) ? - P£P44ITTED SE - SPECIAL EXCEFrlON [by Planning Board) SE* - SPECIAL EXCEPTION (by Town Board) A -ACCSSSOR¥ RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P P P P P P P P P P p~ SE SE SE SE SE SE A A A A A A A SE P P SE P P SE P P P P SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P A A A A A A P P SE SE P A A P SE SE SE SE SE ,llding, electrical or plund31ng contractor's l/ustness or yard ~lldi~lgs, structures and uses owned or operated P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P A A SE SE SE SE /- ~--~ SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE A A A A A A A SE A A P SE A A SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P pursuant to ~10~-31C Gasoline service station, partial self service SUMMARY OF pEP~IITTED USES BY ZONING DISTRICT SE SE P A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A SE SE P P P P P P P P P P P A A A A A A A A A A A SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE S£ SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE* SE* SE* SE* SE* SE* SE* SE A SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P SE SE SE P A SE SE SE SE* SE* SE SE SE* SE* SE* P P SE SE A SE SE SE SE SE A A P P SE* SE* SE* SE* M~tor vehicle, mobile home sales room or ou[door SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P P P P P P P P P P P P P SE SE SE SE SE Sg SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE A A A A A A SE SE P P A A SE SE A A A A SE SE SE SE SE Recreation facility, fully enclosed, co~ercia! Recreation facility for use of employees Repair garage Repair shop for householdt business, or personal appliances Research design or development la~oratory Restaurant, drive-in, curb service Or fast food Restaurant (except drive-in) SE P P SE SE SE S£ P P P P P P P P P P P P A A SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P A A A A A A A A A A A A A SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P. P A SE A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A A SE* SE* SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE SE P P SE* SE SE P SE P A SE SE P P SE SE SE SE SE SE P P