HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-7423 Jtmes F. Kin~ PrUdent
Bob ~ Jr., Vice-President
Ihve Be~n
John lh'edemeyer
Michael J. Domino
Town Hall Annex
54~75 M~ ~
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971~959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 7656641
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE
# 0774C
Date: July 19, 2012
THIS CERTIFIES that the removal of thc existing deck and stairs to beach and
construct a 6'x6' top landinE~ 6'x13' stairs, 8'x12' deck; 6'x7' stairs over revetment. 6'x6'
bottom landing and 6'x12' sbore-parallel stairs to beach.
At 52325 County Road 48, Southold, New York
Suffolk County Tax Map # 135-1-22.1
Conforms to the application for a Trustees Permit heretofore fled in this office
Dated September 29, 2010 pursuant to which Trustees Wetland Permit #7423 Dated
October 20, 2010 was issued and Amended on May 16, 2012 and conforms to all of the
requirements and rondlflons of the applicable provisions of law. The project for which this
certificate is being issued is for the removal of the existing deck and stairs to beach and
construct a 6'x6' top lending, 6'x13' stairs, 8'x12' deck; 6'x7' stairs over revetment, 6'x6'
bottom landing and 6'x12' shore-parallel stairs to beach.
The certificate is issued to NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM owner of the
aforesaid property.
Authorized Signature
Jmnes F. King, Pr~ident
Bob GlmeJo, Jr., Vice-P~e~idem
John Bmdemeycr
Midmel J. Damino
Town Hall, 53095 Main Rd.
P.O. Box 1179
,Southold, NY 11971
Taiephone (631 ) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF $OUTHOLD
DATE OF INSPECTION: ~ /
X Ch. 275,~ u Ch. 111
INSPECTION SCHEDULE
__ Pre-construction, hay bale line/silt boom/silt curtain
__ Ist day of construction
~ constructed
Project complete, compliance inspection.
CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE:
James F. King, President
Bob Ghosio, Jr., Vice-President
Dave Bergen
John Bredemeyer
Michael J. Domino
Town Hall Annex
54375 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
May 16,2012
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OFSOUTHOLD
Mr. Robert Herrmann
En-Consultants
1319 North Sea Rd.
Southampton, NY 11968
RE:
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
52325 COUNTY RD. 48, SOUTHOLD
SCTM#135-1-22.1
Dear Mr. Herrmann:
The following action was taken by the Southold Town Board of Trustees at their Regular
Meeting held on Wed., May 16, 2012:
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVES the Amendment to
Wetland Permit #7423 to authorize the replacement of the previously approved layout of
the stairway and deck with a new layout consisting of a 6'X 6' top landing; 6'X 13' stairs;
8'X 12' deck; 6'X 7' stairs over revetment; 6'X 6' bottom landing; and 6'X 12' shore-
parallel stairs to beach off bottom landing, as depicted on the project plan prepared by
En-Consultants last revised April 30, 2012.
This is not a determination from any other agency.
Sincerely,
Jam(iffF. King, Presidefit
Board of Trustees
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LONG ISLAND SOUND
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1319 NORTH SEA RD,
SOUTHAMPTON, NY 11968
631-283-6360
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SURVEY OF PROPERTY
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SOUTHOLD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK
S.C. TAX No. 1000-135-01-22.1
SCALE 1"=20'
JUNE 30, 2010
APRIL 2, 2012 UPDATE SURVEY
AREA = 1,752 sq. ft.
(TO T~E LINE) 0.040 0¢.
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NOTEs.
1. LOT NUMBERS SHOWN THUS: LOT~ REFER TO
MAP O¥ PROPERTY O? NATHAN GOLDiN
FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK OF SUFFOLK COUNTY
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1952 AS FILE No. 1106
2. ELEVATIONS ARE REFERENCED TO N.A.V.D. 1988 DATUM
EXISTING ELEVATIONS ARE SHOWN THUS:2~
EXISTING CONTOUR LINES ARE SHOWN THUS: - 20 - -
PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MINIMUM
STANDARDS FOR TITLE SURVEYS AS ESfABLrSHED
Nathan
THE EXISTENCE OF RIGHTS OF WAY
50467
,rwin III
Land Surveyor
Successor To Stanley J
Joseph A
PHONE (631)727-2090
OFFICES LOCATED AT
1586 Mo[n Rood
Fox (631)727 1727
30-141A
EN-CONSULTANTS
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING
1319 North Sea Road
Southampton, New York 11968
631-283-6360
Fax: 631-2836136
www. enconsultants.com
April 30, 2012
James King, Chairman
Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
MAY - 3 2012
Re: North Fork Condominium, Southold~ SCTM No. 1000-135-1-22.1
Dear Mr. King:
As you know, we recently submitted an application to amend the location and configuration of the
presently approved deck and stairs due to the fact that the location of the rock revetment recently installed
by the Town along Soundview Avenue and on the applicant's property precludes placement of the stairs
and deck as currently approved.
I have since spoken with the project contractor, who expressed concern that it may be necessary for him
to adjust the location of the 8' x 12' deck farther landward in the event that the revetment stone extends
closer to the road and could thus interfere with the installation of the deck's supporting posts. In that
case, the lengths of the stairway sections leading to the deck from the road and from the deck to the beach
would also have to be modified accordingly.
As you and I discussed, in light of this concern, I have revised the project plan to include a note to this
effect with the hope that the modified permit could allow for such design latitude provided the dimensions
of the deck and landings do not change and the overall length of the stairway from the road to the beach
does not change. Three (copies) of this plan prepared by En-Cousultants, last dated April 30, 2012, are
enclosed herewith.
R~OUYS, %,
Robert E. He~'m,.ann
Coastal Management Specialist
Jill M. Dougherty, President
James F. King, Vice-President
Dave Bergen
Bob Ghosio, Jr.
John Brederneyer
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall
53095 Route 25
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York ! 1971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
FAx (631) 765-1366
LETTER OF REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT
DATE APRIL 24, 2012
OWNER
ADDRESS
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
c/o NIKOLAS PAPCHRISTOU, PRESIDENT
28-51 49TH STREET, ASTORIA, NY I 1103
PHONE 917-939-4771
AGENT EN-CONSULTANTS
PHONE 631-283-6360
ADDRESS 1319 NORTH SEA ROAD, SOUTHAMPTON, NY 11968
PROPERTY LOCATION 52325 COUNTY ROAD 48, SOUTHOLD
TAX MAP NO. 1000--135-1-22.1
I/We EN-CONSULTANTS request an Amendment to Permit # 7423
To authorize the replacement of the previously approved layout of the stairway and deck with a new layout that
is necessitated by the Town of Southold's installation of a rock revetment along the shoreline of the subject
property: construct a 6' x 6' top landing; 6' x +/-13' stairs; 8' x 12' deck; 6' x +/-7' stairs over revetment; 6' x 6'
bottom landing; and 6' x 12' shore-parallel stairs to beach offbottom landing, all as depicted on the project plan
prepared by En-Consultants, dated April 20, 2012.
Signed By: ~ ~
ROBERT ~.~ERRMANN, COASTAL MGMT. SPECIALIST
AUTHORIZATION
(where the applicant is not the owner)
(print 6wrier of property) (mailing ~ddress)
do heroby authorize
(Agent)
to apply for permit(s) from the
Southold Board ~//Trust¢~s on my I~ha, f.~' .
~-~." -"') NOT/~Y PUBUC STATE OF NEW YORK
(Owner's si~gmffure)
County of Suffolk
State of New York
~'~\~c~o~-/~% ~(~4 ~.J~3C~x,3 BE1NO DULY SWORN
DEPOSES AND AFFIRMS THAT HE/SHE IS THE APPLICANT FOR THE ABOVE
DESCRIBED PERMIT(S) AND THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE
TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS/HER KNOWLEDGE AND BELIEF, AND THAT ALL WORK
WILL BE DONE 1N THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS APPLICATION AND AS MAY
BE APPROVED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THE APPLICANT
AGREES TO HOLD THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN TRUSTEES
HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS ARISING
UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT(S), IF GRANTED. IN COMPLETING THIS
APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE TRUSTEES, THEIR AOENT(S) OR
REPRESENTATIVES(S), TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPER~ TO INSPECT THE
PREMISES IN CONJUNCTION WITH~CATION.
'/S gnatur
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS
/8 D^VOF Af ,d\
{)OflOTHY B NUNEZ (
NOT~Y PUBLIC STATE OF NEW YO~ ~
UC. iK)I
APPLICANT/AGENT/REPRESENTATIVE
TRANSACTIONAL DISCLOSURE FORM
Tile Town of Southold's Code of Ethics vrohibits conflicts of interest on the oar~ of town officers and emvlovees. The ourr~ose of
this form is to nrovide information which can alert/~he town of t*ossibhe conflicts of interest and allow it to take whatever action is
necessary to avoid sam~'/ /~ __ [ /' / /
(Last name, first name, middle initial, un ss y pp y' g ' name of
someone else or other entity, such as a company. If so, indicate the other
person's or company's name.)
NAME OF APPLICATION: (Check all that apply.)
Tax grievance Building
Variance Trustee
Change of Zone Coastal Erosion
Approval of plat Mooring
Exemption from plat or official map Planning
Other
(If "Other", name the activity.)
Do you personally (or through your company, spouse, sibling, parent, or child) have a relationship with any officer or employee
of the Town of Southold? "Relationship" includes by blood, marriage, or business interest. "Business interest" means a business,
including a partnership, in which the town officer or employee has even a partial ownership of (or employment by) a corporation
in which the town officer or employee owns more than 5% of the shares.
YES NO ~
If you answered "YES", complete the balance of this form and date and sign where indicated.
Name of person employed by the Town of Southold
Title or position of that person
Describe the relationship between yourself (the applicant/agent/representative) and the town officer or employee. Either check
the appropriate line A) through D) and/or describe in the space provided.
The town officer or employee or his or her spouse, sibling, parent, or child is (check all that apply):
A) the owner of greater than 5% of the shares of the corporate stock of the applicant
(when the applicant is a corporation);
B) the legal or beneficial owner of any interest in a non-corporate entity (when the
applicant is not a corporation);
C) an officer, director, partner, or employee of the applicant; or
__D) the actual applicant.
DESCRIPTION OF RELATIONSHIP
Form TS 1
Submitted this
Signature
Print Name
EN-CONSULTANTS
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING
1319 North Sea Road
Southampton, New York 11968
631-283-6360
Fax: 631-283-6136
www. enconsultants.com
April 23, 2012
James King, Chairman
Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Re: North Fork Condominium~ Southold~ SCTM No. 1000-135-1-~2.1
Dear Mr. King:
APB 2 5 2012
As we discussed at our recent meeting at the captioned property with Alexa Foumier of the New York
State Department of Environmental Conservation and Trustees Mike Domino and John Bredemeyer, we
are submitting herewith an application to modify the North Fork Condominium project that is currently
approved pursuant to the captioned, valid Wetlands Permit. As you know, the previously pending
installation of the Town's rock revetment along this shoreline prevented the permittee from installing the
approved deck and stairway to the beach from Soundview Road because those structures would have
needed to be removed by the Town for the purpose of installing the revetment.
Since the revetment was installed, the permittee commissioned an as-bulk survey of the revetment, which
was prepared by Nathan Tal~ Corwin III, L.S., last dated April 2, 2012, three (3) copies of which are
attached as part of our application. Based on an overlay of the currently approved plans onto this survey,
it was apparent that the approved deck and stairs to the beach would now land atop the rock revetment,
thus making implementation of the project impossible as currently designed and approved.
As discussed, we have therefore prepared a revised plan that would pull the approved deck back landward
of the existing revetment and modify its dimensions to 8' x 12', which will work better with the now
existing bluff slope and maintain the area of the deck (now 96 square feet) within the specifications of the
currently approved 100 square feet. The stairway and landings have been otherwise modified only to
accommodate the newly existing slope and rock revetment.
Although I trust that you will find the application and plans consistent with our conversation at the site,
please let me know if you have any immediate questions or concerns, as the permittee is anxious to get the
structures in place for this coming summer after losing their access to the beach last summer.
Robert E. Hemnann
Coastal Management Specialist
cc: Niko Papachristoth President, NFC
James F King, Presidenl
Bob Ghosio, Jr., Vice-President
Dave Bergen
John Bredemeyer
Michael J. Domino
P.O Box 1179
Southold~ NY 11971
Telephone (631 765-1892
Fax (631 ) 765-6641
Southold Town Board of Trustees
Field Inspection/Worksession Report
Date/Time:
En-Consultants on behalf of NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM requests an
Amendment to Wetland Permit #7423 to authorize the replacement of the previously
approved layout of the stairway and deck with a new layout consisting of a 6'X 6' top
landing; 6'X 13' stairs; 8'X 12' deck; 6'X 7' stairs over revetment; 6'X 6' bottom landing;
and 6'X 12' shore-parallel stairs to beach off bottom landing. Located: 52325 County Rd.
48, Southold. SCTM#135-1-22.1
Type of area to be impacted:
'~'SaltwaterWetland __Freshwater Wetland
S~ound __Bay
Distance of proposed work to edge of wetland
Part of Town Code proposed work falls under:
,g~--Chapt.275 Chapt. 111 other
Type of Application: __ Wetland __Coastal Erosion __Amendment
__Administrative__Emergency Pre-Submission Violation
Info needed:
Modifications:
Conditions:
Present Were: c'/J. Kin~g._ C/B. Ghosio
~,/J. Bredemeyer_ "' Michael Domino
Form filled out in the field by
~'""D. Bergen,
D. Dzenkowski
__.other
Mailed/Faxed to:
Date:
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOM1NIUM~ LONG ISLAND SOUND, SOUTHOLD~
Figure l. Looking south from beach at now existing rock revetment and at location of proposed stairwqv and deck.
Figure 2. Looking, southwest at easterly end of revetment and at location of proposed stairway and deck.
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SURVEY OF PROPERTY
$ITUATE
SOUTHOLD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK
S.C. TAX No. 1000-155-01-22.1
SCALE 1"=20'
JUNE $0, 2010
ALI HoMAYUNI TRUST
LOT (~
N 85"26'40" E
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ALI HoMAYUNI TRusT
Iq 84'01'33" E
44.88'
/09.85'
AREA : 1,752 sq. ff.
(TO TIE LINE) 0.040 OC.
NOTEs:
1. LOT NUMBERS SHOWN THUS: LOT~ REFER TO
MAP OF PROPERTY OF NATHAN GOLDIN
FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK OF SUFFOLK
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1952 AS FILE No. 1106
2. ELEVATIONS
EXISTING
EXISTING
COUNTY
ARE REFERENCED TO N.A.V.D. 1988 DATUM
ELEVATIONS ARE SHOWN THUS:~
CONTOUR LINES ARE SHOWN THUS: - 20
THE EXISTENCE OF RIGHTS OF WAY
AND/OR EASEMENTS OF RECORD, IF
ANY, NOT SHOWN ARE NOT GUARANTEED,
N,Y,S L,c. No, 50467
Nathan Taft Corw n III
Land Surveyor
PHONE (651)727-2090 Fox (631)727 1727
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Board of Trustees 30 October 20, 2010
TRUSTEE BERGEN: One other, the fence. I know, I believe when we
were out there in the field, we already discussed previously the
goose fence that is along that water line, asking for that to be
removed. We noticed it's still there. It is a violation of the
cede and I think we would have to put it in this permit, the
condition that the goose fence or that fence that is really in
the water, in the lake, be removed.
MR. ANDERSON: That's fine. I would recommend you make that.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Hearing no further comment I move to close
the hearing in this matter.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Second.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: All in favor?.
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I make a motion to approve this application
subject to submission of new plans showing a total length of 90
feet, reducing it ten feet on the waten~ard side, and the
condition of a 20-foot non-tud buffer and no fencing in or on
the lake or the buffer area. So moved.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Do we have a second?
TRUSTEE BERGEN: I'll second that.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. ANDERSON: I have a question. Generally, That's fine. I
don't know what the fence is all about. Sometime folks will put
fences up to discourage geese and stuff. How does the Board
feel about people just putting a line, you know what I mean,
like a monofilament line stretching across to discourage geese.
Is that something thai is frowned upon? I don't know what is
there.
TRUSTEE BERGEN; I don't foresee a problem with that.
MR, ANDERSON: Thank you.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: If it works, let us know. See if it works with
deer, too.
MR. ANDERSON: If you go across Shelter Island, you'll see where
they keep horses, instead of a big horse fence, put in posts
with just a string that seems to, a line that seems to confine
the horses.
TRUSTEE KING: Horses ars not the brightest animal either, I
Ihink a goose is smarter.
TRUSTEE KING: En-Consultants, number seven, on behalf of NORTH
FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM requests a Wetland Permit to remove the
existing +/-400 square foot deck and stairs, and construct
inplace of removed deck a 10x10' deck with 6x12' stairs to
beach; and construct 6x6' platform and 6x14' stairs to deck.
Located: 52323 County Road 48, Southold.
This has been deemed inconsistent with the LWRP. The
proposed 100-square foot deck located near the bluff is not a
permissible action pursuant to 275-11. Decks and platforms, no
decks or platforms shall be permitted on or near bluffs.
Platforms associated with stairs may not be larger than 32
square feet. The CAC recommended lo support the application.
Board of Trust~es 31 October 20, 2010
Just a straight support. No conditions. Is there anyone here
to speak for or against this application?
MR. HERMAN: Rob Herman, En-Consultants, on behalf of the North
Fork Beach Condominium. First I guess I have to address the
LWRP determination. Might as well wake up Lori. I think this
again relates back to a reoccurring problem with this 268 review
where there is a determination of inconsistency being rendered
based on a section of the code before it's properly determined
whether 268 review is legally allowed. And I sent a letter Io
Mark with a copy of the application, and I will read from the
code that demonstrates, and Lori can correct me if I'm wrong,
thai the application is exempt. Pursuant to Town Code 268-5
review of actions and corresponding definitions of action and
minor action by 268-3 definitions, the proposed construction
activities meat the following definition of minor action.
Quote, B, replacement, rehabilitation or reconstruction of a
facility inkind on the same site, inplace, except for structures
in areas designated by the Coastal Erosion Hazard Area Law,
where structures may not be replaced, rehabilitated or
reconstructed without a permit. Because both the, quote,
stairways constructed solely for pedestrian use and built by an
individual property owner for the limited purpose of providing
non-commercial access to the beach, end quote, and the
replacement deck Io he constructed over open timber framework,
quote, with a top surface area of less than 200 square feet,
end quote, are defined as unregulated activities by 111-6, their
construction is not regulated by Chapter 111 and therefore may
be constructed without a coastal erosion management permit. The
proposed additions therefore quality as minor actions thai are not
subject to waterfront consistency review pursuant to Chapter 268,
Il was for that reason that we did not file an LWRP
consistency assessment form with the Trustees. If the action
is a minor action and it is exempt, it cannot be reviewed under
26& There is nothing that we are proposing here that is
reviewable under 268, therefore we can't have a determination
that the project is inconsistent because of its inconsistency
with some portion of 275 or any other code.
With respect to the substance of the project itself, the
Board may recall it was almost a year ago that we met out there
with Edc Star, Dawn McReynolds, I believe, and Karen Graulich
from the DEC. This is a structure that provides use for dozens
of members of this condominium association and has for decades
upon decades upon decades. It was discussed however that as the
structure has not been maintained in good enough repair to
simply be repaired through ordinary maintenance, that we would
have a tough time making the case to rebuild a four-hundred
square foot deck over the beach area fronting Long Island Sound.
However it seems to be the opinion both of the slate and of this
Board that to completely remove the beach access from all of
these owners on a property that they own and pay taxes on for
the sole purpose of having beach access would not only be unfair
Board of Trustees 32 October 20, 2010
but it would in effect take away their use and enjoyment of the
property.
So the agreement that we had come to at the time was that
so it would - and, again, this was with Eric's guidance as well
-- that we build a structure that was less than 200 square feet
top surface and therefore would be not regulated and in effect
allowable under coastal erosion. Not that it's allowable under
a permit but that a permit is actually not necessary for the
construction. Because of its proximity to tidal wetlands under
275 and also under article 25 for the state, it was the opinion
of both this Board, or at least the members, I can't recall if
all of you were there, but at least for the membere that were
there, and the DEC, that we maintain the deck al no greater than
100 square feet.
That is what we came up with. It has taken us so long to
get in front of you because you may recall the condominium folks
had also discussed the possibility of some sort of erosion
stabilization project there that was ultimately delermined they
didn't have the funds to proceed with that at this time so they
just wanted to proceed with the access. That may be something
that come back to you with in the future.
So anyway, what we what you have before you tonight is what
we had discussed in the field. I hope you find it does meet
with our agreement, and if you have any other questions or
comments, I would be happy to answer them,
TRUSTEE KING: I remember being out there and the discussions
so. I have one question, I was trying to find it here.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So our attorney is in concun'ence
essentially with the issues surrounding an inconsistent review
or sort of void it or remove it from the discussion, if the
cogent argument that you presented meets with her approval
MS. HULSE; I don't agree with that. I don't think it falls under
minor action. I don't really see the exemption you are speaking
of. If you are talking specifically about B, I don't agree with that.
MR. HERMAN: I'm not sure why.
MS. HULSE: Because it's not a reconstruction of a structure
inkind on the same site. This is different.
MR. HERMAN: It's smaller.
MS. HULSE: It's different, Also aren't you also including an
additional platform or decking?
MR. HERMAN: That's the platform at the top on the road. I don't
think that is what the objection is.
MS. HULSE: Well, I'm not going to replace my opinion for the
LWRP coordinator's, I think he is well within his right to
review this.
MR. HERMAN: I respectfully disagree.
MS. HULSE: At leasl it was respectively done.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Rob, this meeting that took place, I believe
this, in the field, it was lasl Decembe~
MR. HERMAN: It was, yes.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: And for the record, I was not there at the
Board of Trustees 33
Octobor 20, 2010
December meeting, at the December field inspections last year.
Myself personally, I do not think this falls within code. I
think it, the size of the deck has got to be downsized because
what you are talking about is a removal of the deck, rebuilding
and replacement of the deck and we just had an application
earlier this evening where we went through this, and we denied
that application. So for myself, I just feel this has got to be
downsized within the limits stated in the code.
MR. HERMAN: Well, I think that with respect to the spirit of
section of the code that relates to decks on bluffs, and this
may not be consistent with the Board's, or I should say with
your interpretation, based on the agreement of the rest of the
Board members who were there with this plan, I would hope that
they would retain the agreement. However, and again, just with
respect to what Lori is saying, I think the spirit behind that
section of the code that dissuades or prohibits construction of
decks on bluffs is, has a lot to do with not only safety but the
integrity of the bluff. So if you have a substantial bluff on
Long island Sound, that is well vegetated and is in stable
condition, the Board and the town wants to discourage somebody
from going out and for purely recreational purposes having
dinner or drinks or whatever, constructing a large deck that
overhangs the edge of the bluff that would threaten to
destabilize the vegetation on the bluff. I don't think there is
anything even remotely similar to that situation here. This is
a bluffthal you could almost jump down. It is a severely
eroded area adjacent to a public roadway where this deck has
always sat in effect seaward of the bluff itself, and has
already been used as a recreational structure for this
condominium associations with dozens and dozens of owners that
use this beach. This is not the whim of one private owner who
wants to come out and propose this brand new structure that
threatens the integrity of a well-vegetated bluff. This is a
deck that sits, for all practical purposes, seaward of the
bluff. And there is no environmental condition here that is
threatened by maintaining this deck. In fact we are proposing
to reduce it from four-hundred feet, four-hundred square feet to
100 square feet. And this, my argument with Lori on something
being different has come up before. I mean to that I would say,
okay, well let's propose it to be four-hundred square feet.
That gets the LWRP out of the way because now it's exactly the
same. And then we'll cut it down with you. But I don't want to
to play Stratego between 268 and 275. The purpose of the
meeting last year was to come to a fair and reasonable agreement
where I got out every involved agency person there was on one
day at one time, everyone who devoted time to this and came up
with this agreement, which is now what I have come to the Board
with. What was the purpose of all that now if we are going to
say, well, let's not do that, let's take the use away from the
property owner.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: With respect to 275, I just want to note that
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we have granted relief on these types of decks. We talked about
a property tonight that we had granted relief before. This deck
has been there for yeare and yeare, and that is the type of
situations where we do grant relief. And he is substantially
reducing the size of the deck, so I feel I want to stick with
the agreement that we made and at the time we felt it was doable
and I still feel it is.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: I agree. I was out there for that meeting and I
believe this is what we discussed and I believe all agencies and
all folks that were there at the time felt it was a good idea
and a good compromise to what is there. Comparing it to the
deck on a bluff on Soundview that we denied earlier tonight, I
cee there to be a substantial difference between that and this,
as you already stated. I also think there is a difference in
what it's being used for. I think it's, you know, how many of
the condos are there, 30, 40 condos, and individual ownere have
a right to access their beach. And in fact I think a smaller
structure would probably be too limiting for what it is that
they do. I think it's a great compromice.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: With all due respect, limiting the deck down to,
as the code states, 32-square feet is not limiting their access
to the beach. Their access to the beach is there through the
staire. And so the deck has nothing to do, in my mind, this is
just my opinion, with accessibility to the beach. The staire
allow that. So they have full access to their property, they
have full access to the use of the beach. I'm just trying to
adhere to the code. That's all.
MS. HULSE: I would agree with Dave. I don't think either of
these decks comply with what the code says and lhere is no
authority in the code where the Trustees can use their
discretion to grant a variance. It's an operation standard that
is in the code.
MR. HERMAN: My only reaction to that is the same one, again. It
seems it's becoming, it seems like the Board is ceasing to
differentiate between what is truly a new project, a new
structure, new construction, versus what is clearly and as laid
out in 268, replacement, rehabilitation or reconstruction of a
facility inkind on the same site, et cetera. My point is lhat
if the code, if the town has chocen to use language like
"replace," "rehabilitate" and "reconstruct" there is an explicit
acknowledgment that certain structures exist and have existed
since prior to the code that may be replaced, rehabilitated or
reconstructed. And it seems like there is a continuing trend to
say every time somebody takes a pre-existing structure and
completely dismantles it for the purpose of re constructing or
rehabilitating it, it's as if the structure never exists and now
it's a new construction, just as if this was a vacant lot and
now there is new construction. Which means you are stripping
every owner in this town of the vested right of maintaining
preexisting, nonconforming structures that pre-date code. And
always harken back to the language that is actually in the
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original code that ultimately gives all the towns, including
this one, its authority, which is the state wetland law. And
judges have upheld the language in that code that says there is
nothing in Article 25, under New York State, that may allow an
agency to force an owner to remove or prevent them from
replacing, rehabilitating or reconstructing a pre-existing
non-conforming structure that predates the date of the code.
There has to be differentiation by this Board between what is
quite literally new and what is quite literally a replacement.
We should not be punished because we are asking to downsize a
pre-existing, nonconforming structure from four-hundred square
feet to 100 square feet because it's not 32-square feet. It's
arbitrary.
MS. HULSE: But you are making an academic argument and you are
asking them to do something that is against exactly what the
code says and what they are charged with enfoming, the code. I
mean you could make this argument all day long, but the state
requirements, for instance, in the building code, you can't just
replace something that has existed for 50 years. Sometimes
things are upgraded and changed. Sometimes those reasons are
not just environmental but for safety, health and welfare as
well. So you are making a generalized argument because you want
your applicant to get what he wants, but I don't think that's
necessarily --
MR. HERMAN: I'm making the argument, Lori, because in principal,
it's fight.
MS. HULSE: I disagree with you as well. Things change. As
Trustees point out all the time. There are new - they are
more educated now, there are different standards that are in
place, and there are reasons for those. And those could be good
reasons. It's not to divest the propen'y owner of certain rights.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I have a question. What if they merely move
the existing deck and in other words it would still exist, then
perform ordinary repairs on it which might include a request to
amend it and make it smaller? it seams to me as a body politic
when you meet with all these other groups and try to come to an
accord on how to treat applicants fairly, and then you come to
this point and then you go and say you can't do it, particularly
where it's a very substantial downsizing, it seems on face value
to me you are denying use of property. It seems improper on
face value to me, where you are just making people jump through
more hoops. I mean, they can apply to amend, t assume there is
an existing permit for the structure.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Don't make that assumption.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: It predates.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: It predates so, in other words to move it
would make it a new structure. They could do things more step
wise instead of making people go through more hoops. It seems
there was an attempt here to do the right thing
MS. HULSE: It's not what the code allows. The code does not
allow it.
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TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: So, in other words you are suggesting the
actions of all these groups meeting with an applicant in good
faith should be voided.
MS. HULSE: I'm just telling you what the code says.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I appreciate that. Understood.
TRUSTEE KING: Seems like we have a dilemma.
MR. HERMAN: We are not going to downsize it. So if the Board
wants to deny it, we'll respond. It's just we pushed and pushed
and pushed and at some point it's beyond what is reasonable.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: This is different than the olher application
we discussed earlier in that the other was coming in for an as
built. These people have been trying to work with the Board.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: I agree.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Instead of having a full blown battle on
something like this, this goes to a lot of issues, I almost
think tabling it and discussing with code committee or the
Trustees putting their heads together. I can't see, if we have
a problem with the code here, maybe we have to fix the code
instead of undermining our relationship with individuals who are
trying to work with us.
MR. HERMAN: Loft, could you just read the section of the code
again that we are talking about.
MS. HULSE: You know what, I have given my advice to the Board.
They can do whatever they want. I'm just telling you what the
code says. As you know, Rob, we have been through this numerous
times. It's what the code says.
MR. HERMAN: Can you read the section of code we are talking
about?. I just want what the exact language of the code is.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Decks and platforms: No decks or platforms shall
be permitted on or near bluffs. Platforms associated with
stairs may not be larger than 32-square feet.
MR. HERMAN: Okay.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: That's in 275.
MR. HERMAN: So if I could move this far enough seaward, then we
would be completely over the beach and no longer within the
bluff area. That be could possibly be one alternative. We
would have a lesser wetland setback area but we would not be
interfering with the bluff. Does that make more sense?
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Are them any other permits that you need
permission from any other agencies?
MR. HERMAN: No, not yet. But again, this was, I actually, since
Karen Graulich's departure from the department, I did speak with
Alexa Fournier again just to verify what had been discussed and
had been assured the DEC would be issuing the permit. Just
because there had a been a lag.
TRUSTEE KING: I think the biggest thing that bothers me,
personally, is that we all met in the field and we all said yes,
this looks like a good idea.
MR. HERMAN: I would say it bothers me as well.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Again, I was not part of that.
MR. HERMAN: I could go back through my files and I don't recall
'Board of Trustees 37 October 20, 2010
which year that language was put in.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: 2005.
TRUSTEE KING: Butwe have legal advice that we should listen to
also. I don't want to ignore that. But, I don't know.
Somebody help me.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I think we should go for code amendment for
100 square feet. I think 32-squara feet, even if you need an
engineering assessment and/or separate vegetation plan, I just
think 32-squara feet for stairways and landings is too
confining. Limit it to one landing or one area of 100 square
feet and it seems a recurring theme we are getting hooked on
this with LWRP consistency. I don't know, obviously, like you
said, it's actually arbitrary and it's just a personal feeling
I have, we are getting hooked up on these things and it seems a
10x10 deck is a pretty small deck.
MR. HERMAN: Well, 200 is allowed under Coastal
Erosion, with the presumption that deck is actually on the
bluff. So you've got, in effect, language in a Wetland Code
that is really, I don't know whether call It circumventing or
trumping or whatever, I mean this Board has to judge those two
codes. So just on its face the fact you ara allowed 200 square
feet under Coastal Erosion and 32 feet under 275, I mean, based
on what?
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Rob, I don't think this is the time to table it
to do a code change. I think if we need to do a code change,
that's something different Ihat we need to talk about. I think
we need to move to this application. I don't want to table this
and do a code change based on this application. I think we need
to move on this application, and if we do do a code change in
the future, then by all means they can come back and amend if
they have to or re-apply or whatever the case may be. So I
think we need to move on and make a decision on this.
MR. HERMAN: So make a motion.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Wifh all due respect to Lofts opinion, we have
in the past, several times, made, I can think of a couple, I
can't remember the names but I can think of a couple spots in
town where we made relief to the 32-square foot size. One of
lhem being tonight, that we didn't do it tonight, but the
application wes before us.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: You are talking about an application that we did
not act on tonight.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Right. We acted, on the Mitchell one, where he
in the past has gotten relief and has a current permit for a
deck larger than 32-squara feet.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: For myself, I think we are comparing apples and
oranges. I would like to see if there are no other comments,
that we move on.
TRUSTEE KING: Are we ready to make a motion?
TRUSTEE BERGEN: We have to close the hearing first.
TRUSTEE KING: I11 make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Second.
Board of Trustees 38 October 20, 2010
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE KING: I think we need to get this straightened out once
and for all. Ill make a motion to deny the application that
has been submitted.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: I'll second that motion.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Role call vote. Trustee Bredemeyer?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: No.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Trustee Bergen?
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Yes.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Trustee King?
TRUSTEE KING: Aye.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Trustee Doherty, no. Trustee Ghosio?
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: No.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Resolution to deny fails.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Lel somebody else make a motion.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: I think that's the end of it, right?
TRUSTEE BERGEN: The motion to deny, lost. So now if somebody
else wants to make a motion to approve, they can.
MS. HULSE: Of course.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: I'll make a motion lo table.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: For what reason?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: To have further discussion on this matter.
In due recognition of legal counsel and the work of individuals
trying to work together, that we continue a discussion instead
of being confrontational through a no vote, that we work on this
through a medium of discussion, possibly with the code
committee, as a larger principal, not just looking at this one
but looking at this, there is a ripening, to my mind, there is a
very ripe inconsistency between Coastal Erosion Hazard and the
Wetland Act in terms of what they are purporting to do here. I
don't particularly want to rest on an individual who tried to
work with this Board, this kind of problem. I would like to
draw on a principal going forward. And that's my reason.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Motion is on the table. Do we have a second?
(No response).
What happens when we don't have a second?
MS. HULSE: The motion is lost.
TRUSTEE KING: Someone else can make a motion.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: I'll make a motion to approve the application as
submitted.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: I'll second that. Trustee Bredemeyer?
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Aye, reluctanlly.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Trustee Bergen?
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Nay.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Trustee King?
TRUSTEE KING: Nay.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Trustee Doherty, aye. Trustee Ghosio?
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Aye.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: So the motion has passed to approve with a
three to two vote.
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MR. HERMAN: Thank you.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: Do we want to address the inconsistency in that?.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: I think in reducing the structure from
four-hundred square feet to 100-square feet brings it into
consistency.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Number eight, En-Consultants on behalf of MARY
BETH HENSON requests a Wetland Permit to construct onto existing
two-story, one-family dwelling; dormer additions to the second
story; a one-story addition, covered porch and steps onto the
front side of the house, partially in place of an existing,
raised masonry patio to be removed; a screened porch in place of
an attached garage to be removed from the west side of the
house; and new deck in place on an existing deck to be removed
from the waterside of the house; remove existing hot tub and
concrete pad; and construct a new hot tub and swimming pool.
Located: 3300 Sound Drive, Greenport.
The Board was out there and took a look at this. LWRP has
found it to be consistent, and the CAC moved to support the
application. Is there anybody here who would like to address
this application?
MR. HERMAN: Rob Herman, En-Consultants, on behalf of the
applicant. Sounds like we are going well so far so I'll just
say if I can answer any questions the Board has.
TRUSTEE KING: It can only get better, Rob, it can only get
better.
MR. HERMAN: And I hope you appreciated the splendid stake out
that was done by the surveyor, the painted words in the
driveway.
TRUSTEE BERGEN: We stepped right on that.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: The only note from the field inspection were it
the leaders, gutters and drywells per Chapter 236.
MR. HERMAN' I think they are on the site plan. They are. In
fact we even have drainage calculations based on house roof area
and two-inch rainfall. It's underneath the site data chart to
the bottom left-hand corner. There is one 8x8 storm drain that
is shown just to the southeast of the southeast comer of the
pool. There is also a separate backwash drywell provided for
the pool.
TRUSTEE GHOSIO: Plans are showing a proposed ten-foot non-turf
buffer as well. Hay bale lines on the plans.
MR. HERMAN: There is a ten-foot non-turf buffer that exists kind
of in that comer of the property. We are just going to extend
it across.
TRUSTEE GHOSlO: Are there any questions or comments from the
Board?
(No response).
It was pretty straightforward.
TRUSTEE KING: No, this was an easy one.
TRUSTEE DOHERTY: Most of it is out of our jurisdiction
TRUSTEE GHOSlO: I11 make a motion to dose the hearing.
TRUSTEE BREDEMEYER: Second.
Jill M. Doherly, President
James F. King, Vice-President
Dave Bergen
Bob Ghosio, Jr.
John Bredemeyer
Town Hall, 53095 Main Rd.
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO CONTACT THE OFFICE OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES 72
HOURS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF THE WORK, TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT
FOR A PRE-CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION. FAILURE TO DO SO SHALL BE
CONSIDERED A VIOLATION AND POSSIBLE REVOCATION OF THE PERMIT.
INSPECTION SCHEDULE
__ Pre-construction, hay bale line
__ 1st day of construction
¼ constructed
V/ Project complete, compliance inspection.
BOARD OF SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEES
$OUTHOLD, NEW YORK
PERMIT NO. 7423
DATE: OCTOBER 20 2010
ISSUED TO: NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
PROPERTY ADDRESS: 52325 COUNTY RD. 48, SOUTHOLD
SCTM#.135-1-22,1
AUTHORIZATION
Pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 275 and/or Chapter 111 of the Town Code of the Town of
Southold and in accordance with the Resolution of the Board of Trustees adopted at the meeting held on
October 20. 2010 in consideration of application fee in the sum of $250.00 paid by North Fork Beach
Condominium and subject to the Terms and Conditions as stated in the Resolution, the Southold Town Board of
Trustees authorizes and permits the following:
Wetland Permit to remove the existing +/-400 sr. deck and stairs, and construct
in-place of removed deck a 10'X 10' deck with 6'X 12' stairs to beach; and construct 6,X 6'
platform and 6'X 14' stairs to deck, and as depicted on the plans prepared by Eh-ConsUltants,
Inc. dated September 21, 2010.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the said Board of Trustees hereby causes its Corporate Seal to be aff'Lxed,
and these preser~ts to be subscribed by a majority of the said Board as of this date.
James King IAY
Dave Bergen ~ NAY
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
The Permittee, North Fork Beach Condominium, 52325 County Rd.48. Southold. NY. as part
of the consideration for the issuance of the Permit does understand and proscribe to the following:
That the said Board of Trustees and the Town of Southold are released from any and ail
damages, or claims for damages, of suits arising directly or indirectly as a result of any
operation performed pursuant to this permit, and the said Permittee will, at his or her own
expense, defend any and all such suits initiated by third parties, and the said Permittee
assumes full liability with respect thereto, to the complete exclusion of the Board of
Trustees of the Town of Southold.
That this Permit is valid for a period of 24 months, which is considered to be the estimated
time required to complete the work involved, but should circumstances warrant, request for
an extension may be made to the Board at a later date.
That this Permit should be retained indefinitely, or as long as the said Permittec wishes to
maintain the structure or project involved, to provide evidence to anyone concerned that
authorization was originally obtained.
That the work involved will be subject to the inspection and approval of the Board or its
agents, and non-compliance with the provisions of the originating application may be cause
for revocation of this Permit by resolution of the said Board.
That there will be no unreasonable interference with navigation as a result of the work
herein authorized.
That there shall be no interference with the right of the public to pass and repass along the
beach between high and low water marks.
That if future operations of the Town of Southold require the removal and/or aiterations in
the locatign of the work herein authorized, or if, in the opinion of the Board of Trustees,
the work shall cause unreasonable obstruction to free navigation, the said Permittee will be
required, upon due notice, to remove or alter this work project herein stated without
expenses to the Town of Southold.
That the said Board will be notified by the Pennittee of the completion of the work
authorized.
That the Permittee will obtain all other permits and consents that may be required
supplemental to this permit, which may be subject to revoke upon failure to obtain same.
Jill M. Doherty, President
James F. King, Vice-President
Dave Bergen
Bob Ghosio, Jr.
John Brederaeyer
Town Hall Annex
54375 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
BOAP.~D OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
October 20, 2010
Mr. Robert E. Herrmann
En-Consultants, Inc.
1319 North Sea Rd.
Southampton, NY 11968
RE:
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
52325 COUNTY RD. 48, SOUTHOLD
SCTM#135-1-22.1
Dear Mr. Herrmann:
The Board of Town Trustees took the following action during its regular meeting held on Wed.,
October 20, 2010 regarding the above matter:
WHEREAS, Eh-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM applied
to the Southold Town Trustees for a permit under the provisions of Chapter 275 of the Southold
Town Code, the Wetland Ordinance, application dated September 29, 2010, and,
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
and to the Local Waterfront Revitalization Program Coordinator for their findings and
recommendations, and,
WHEREAS, the LWRP Coordinator recommended that the proposed application be found
Inconsistent with the LWRP, and,
WHEREAS, the Board of Trustees has furthered Policy 6.3 of the Local Watedront
Revitalization Program to the greatest extent practical through the imposition of the following
Best Management Practice requirement: the reduction in footprint of the pre-existing, non-
conforming structure, and,
WHEREAS, a Public Headng was held by the Town Trustees with respect to said application on
October 20, 2010, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard,
and,
WHEREAS, the Board members have personally viewed and are familiar with the premises in
question and the surrounding area, and,
WHEREAS, the Board has considered all the testimony and documentation submitted
concerning this application, and,
WHEREAS, the structure complies with the standards set forth in Chapter 275 of the Southold
Town Code, and,
WHEREAS, the Board has determined that the project as proposed will not affect the health,
safety and general welfare of the people of the town,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT,
RESOLVED, that for the mitigating factors and based upon the Best Management Practice
requirements imposed above, the Board of Trustees deems the action to be Consistent with the
Local Waterfront Revitalization Pregram pursuant to Chapter 268-5 of the Southold Town Code,
and,
RESOLVED, that the Board of Trustees approves the application of NORTH FORK BEACH
CONDOMINIUM to remove the existing +/-400 sf. deck and stairs, and construct in-place of
removed deck a 10'X 10' deck with 6'X 12' stairs to beach; and construct 6'X 6' platform and 6'X
14' stairs to deck, and as depicted on the plans prepared by En-Consuitants, Inc. dated
September 21, 2010.
Permit to construct and complete project will expire two years from the date the permit is signed.
Fees must be paid, if applicable, and permit issued within six months of the date of this
notification.
Inspections are required at a fee of $50.00 per inspection. (See attached schedule.)
Fees: $50.00
Very truly yours,
JMD:lms
Peter Young, Chairman
Laurcn Standish, Secretary
Town Hall, 53095 Main Rd.
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
Conservation Advisory Council
Town of Southold
At the meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council held Wed., October
13, 2010, the following recommendation was made:
Moved by Audrey Horton, seconded by Peter Young, it was
RESOLVED to SUPPORT the Wetland Permit application of NORTH FORK BEACH
CONDOMINUM to remove the existing +/-400 sf. deck and stairs, and construct in-place
of removed deck a 10'X 10' deck with 6'X 12' stairs to beach; and construct 6'X 6' platform
and 6'X 14' stairs to deck.
Located: 52325 County Rd. 48, Southold. SCTM#135-1-22.1
Inspected by: Audrey Horton, Peter Young
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Jill M Doherty, President
James F. King, Vice-President
Dave Bergen
Bob Ghosio, Jr.
John Bredemeyer
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
Southold Town Board of Trustees
Field Inspection/Worksession Report
Date/Time:
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINUM requests a Wetland Permit
....... to remove the existing +~-400 sf. deck and stairs,
and construct in-place of removed deck a 10'X 10' deck with 6'X 12' stairs
to beach; and construct 6'X 6' platform and 6'X 14' stairs to deck. Located:
52325 County Rd. 48, Southold. SCTM#135-1-22.1
~wf area to be impacted:
ater Wetland Freshwater Wetland Sound Bay
Dista~ce of proposed work to edge of wetland.
Pa.C/ofTown Code proposed work falls under:
__Chapt.275,/¢~°~ Chapt. 111 other
Type of Application: Wetland __Coastal Erosion __Amendment
__Administrative__Emergency Pre-Submission __Violation
Info needed:
Modifications:
Conditions:
Present Were: =~.King J-~.Doherty ~ Bredemeyer ~D. Bergen__
B.Ghosio, J D. Dzen-~owski --~ther
Form filled out in the field ~py ~
Mailed/Faxed to:
Date:
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM~ LONG ISLAND SOUND~ SOUTHOLD~
Figure 1. Looking northeast from top of bluff over top of +_ 400 s.f. deck to be removed and replaced with 10' x 10' deck.
l'Tgure 2. Looking southwest from beach at deck to be removed and replaced with I0' x 10' deck.
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMIN1UM~ LONG ISLAND SOUND~ SOUTHOLD~
Figure 3. Looking northwest from beach at deck attd stairs to be removed and replaced.
Figure 4, Looking north down stairs to be rentoved and replaced with stairs on east side of deck.
EN-CONSULTANTS_ INC.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING
James King, Chairman
Board of Trustees
Town of Southold
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
1319 North Sea Road
Southampton, New York 11968
631-283-6360
Fax: 631-283-6136
www.enconsultants.com
November 20, 2009
Re: North Fork Condominium~ Southold~ SCTM No. 1000-135-1-22.1
Dear Mr. King:
Please accept this letter as a request for a pre-submission meeting with the Board at the captioned
property during your December field inspections. As depicted in the attached photographs, this stretch of
shoreline has become severely eroded to the point that the adjacent public roadway may soon be in danger
of being undermined. As you know, the Highway Department dumped sandy fill to the west of the
Condominium's "common area" property since the attached photos were taken last week, but the
Condominium property was not the beneficiary of any fill. As a result, their beachfront remains severely
eroded and their preexisting deck in danger of collapse.
Because the Condominium owners would like to pursue aitematives for salvaging their deck and
renourishing and stabilizing the bluff on their property, we would like pre-application guidance from the
Board so that we may most efficiently pursue that end.
Please confirm the date of your inspections and the likely time of day you will be there and I will
coordinate meeting you there with representatives from the Condominium owners.
R~y yours,
Robert E. He~niann
Coastal Management Specialist
cc: Niko Papachdstou, President, NFC
11/E~/2009 14:57 FAZ EN-CONSULTM/TS
EN-CONSULTANTS, INC.
ELNVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS
~002
1319 N~th Sea Road
scv, d~pa~, New Yo~ 119~
631-283.-6360
Fax: 631-283-6136
www. en com~ultants,Com
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCF. RN:
· This letter will authofizc ~a-Consultants, h~c. to relm'e~ut me aud act on my behalf with
regard to environmcatal matlem and/orpem~.
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11/10/2009 12:22 71872G4792
FIRST MANAGEMENT
#4927 P.001/001
FIRST M GEMENT CORPORATION
November ~.0, 2009
To'
Town of Southhold Trustees/Ms. Jill Doherty or Elizabeth
Fax # 63&-765-664&
From: First Management Corp.
Re: Application for a permit to rebuild NorthFork Beach Condominium
Please note that we are the managinl[ agent for the above named
Condominium located at 52325 Country Road 48, Southhold, NY 11971.
During the nor'easter and extensive beach erosion that occurred during the
weekend of October 17 2009, Northfork Beach Condominium sustained
extensive damal[e to the staircase, the platform(deck) as well as the bluff.
They are seeking approval for a permit to rebuild these items damaged durin8
the storm that occurred that weekend. Please grant a permit to the
Condominium in order for them to rebuild the dama~[ed areas of the building.
In the event you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact the
undersil[ned.
Yours truly,
James Demetriou
Managing Agent
First Management Corp.
34-03 Broadway Fax: (718) 932 4750
Tel: (718) 726 4792 Astoria. N.Y. 11106
Robert Herrmann
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From; "Robert Hem~nann'' <rherrmana~enoonsultants corn>
To: "Standish, Lauren" <Lauren Standish@town southotd ny us>
Cc: <yanniandstacey@hotmail corn>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:22 PM
Attach: PB100013.JPG; PB100014 JPG; PB100010 JPG; PB100011 JPG; PB100012 JPG; NoFoCondo pdf
Subject: Nodh Fork Condo - pre-app request
hi lauren, per our discussion, please see attached letter and photos hard copy will come separately with
check and authorization will follow
Robert E Herrmann
Coastal Management Specialist
Eh-Consultants, lnc
1319 North Sea Road
Southampton, NY 11968
Phone: 631-283-6360
Fax: 631-283-6136
1/20/2009
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OFFICE LOCATION:
Town Hall Annex
54375 State Route 25
(cor. Main Rd. & Youngs Ave.)
Southold, NY 11971
MAILING ADDRESS:
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Telephone: 631 765-1938
Fax: 631 765-3136
LOCAL WATERFRONT REVITALIZATION PROGRAM
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MEMORANDUM
To:
From:
Jill Doherty, President
Town of Southold Board of Trustee¢
Mark Terry, Principal Planner
LWRP Coordinato~
Date: October 15, 2010
Re:
Request for Wetland Permit for NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINUM
SCTM#1000-135-1-22.1
En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINUM requests a Wetland Permit to
remove the existing +/-400 sf. deck and stairs, and construct in-place of removed deck a 10'X 10' deck
with 6'X 12' stairs to beach; and construct 6'X 6' platform and 6'X 14' stairs to deck. Located: 52325
County Rd. 48, Southold. SCTM#135-1-22.1
The proposed action has been reviewed to Chapter 268, Waterfront Consistency Review of the Town of
Southold Town Code and the Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP) Policy Standards.
Based upon the information provided on the LWRP Consistency Assessment Form submitted to this
department, as well as the records available to me, it is my recommendation that the proposed action is
INCONSISTENT with the denoted following Policy Standards and therefore is INCONSISTENT with the
LWRP.
6.3 Protect and restore tidal and freshwater wetlands.
Comply with statutory and regulatory requirements of the Southold Town Board of
Trustees laws and regulations for all Andros Patent and other lands under their
jurisdiction
1. Comply with Trustee regulations and recommendations as set forth in Trustee
permit conditions.
The proposed 100 square foot deck located near the bluff is not a permissible action pursuant
to:
275-11 Construction and operation standards.
A. General. The following standards are required for all operations within the jurisdiction
of the Trustees:
(6) Decks and platforms. No decks or platforms shall be permitted on or near
bluffs. Platforms associated with stairs may not be larger than 32 square feet.
[Amended 10-11-2005 by L.L. No. 17-2005]
Pursuant to Chapter 268, the Board of Trustees shall consider this recommendation in preparing its
written determination regarding the consistency of the proposed action.
Cc: Lori Hulse, Assistant Town Attorney
Jill M. Doherty, President
James F. King, Vice-President
Dave Bergen
Bob Ghosio, Jr.
John Brederneyer
Town Hall, 53095Main Rd.
P.O. Box 1179
Southold,NY 11971
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631)765-6641
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Office UseOnly
~eastal Erosion Permit Application
tland Permit Application
Amendment~Tra~sfer/Extension
ce-'~ved A p p I~:at i on :q [,~.1~ [ ]~
~,~d F~ . (
~ompleted Appl~at ;on
Incomplete
~SEQRA Classification:
Type I Type lI Unlisted
~Coordination: (date sent)_
~WRP Consistency Assessment Fo~
/CAC Refusal Sent: t
~te of lnspection:~
~Receipt of CAC Rcpo~:
~Lead Agency Determination:
Technical Review:
~lic Hearing Held:~~
~Resolution:
Administrative Permit
Name of ApplicantNORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
Address C/O NIKOLAS PAPACHRISTOU, PRESIDENT; 28-51 49TH STREET,
ASTORIA, NY 11103 Phone Number: (917) 939-4771
Suffolk County Tax Map Number: 1000 - 135-1-22.1
Property Location: 52325 COUNTY ROAD 48, SOUTHOLD
(provide LILCO Pole #, distance to cross streets, and location)
AGENT: EN-CONSULTANTS, INC.
(If applicable)
Address: 1319 NORTH SEA ROAD, SOUTHAMPTON, NY 11968
Phone: 631-283-6360
Board of Trustees App]
GENERAL DATA
Land Area (in square feet): 1,752 SQ. FT.
Area Zoning: R-40
Previous use of property: BEACH ACC ESS/RECREATION
Intended use of property: NO CHANGE
Covenants and Restrictions:
If "Yes", please provide copy.
Yes X No
Does this project require a variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals
If"Yes", please provide copy of decision.
Prior permits/approvals for site improvements:
Agency Date
Yes X
No
__ No prior permits/approvals for site improvements.
Has any permit/approval ever been revoked or suspended by a governmental agency?
X No Yes
If yes, provide explanation:
Project Description (use attachments if necessary):
Remove existing +/- 400 square-foot deck and stairs, and construct in-place of removed deck a 10' x 10' deck with 6' x
12' stairs to beach; and construct 6' x 6' platform and 6' x 14' stain to deck, all as depicted on the project plan prepared
by En-Consultants, Inc., dated September 2 I, 2010.
Board of Trustees ApplOtion
WETLAND/TRUSTEE LANDS APPLICATION DATA
Purpose of the proposed operations:
To maintain the access & preexisting use and enjoyment of the subject parcel.
Area of wetlands on lot: 0 square feet
Percent coverage of lot: 0 %
Closest distance between nearest existing structure and upland
edge of wetlands: 0 feet (stairs)
Closest distance between nearest proposed structure and upland
edge of wetlands: +/-13 feet (deck)
Does the project involve excavation or filling?
X No Yes
If yes, how much material will be excavated?N/A cubic yards
How much material will be filled? N/A cubic yards
Depth of which material will be removed or deposited: N/A feet
Proposed slope throughout the area of operations: N/A
Manner in which material will be removed or deposited:
N/A
Statement of the effect, if any, on the wetlands and tidal waters of the town that may result by
reason of such proposed operations (use attachments if appropriate):
The project entails the +/-75% reduction in footprint of a preexisting nonconforming deck and replacement of associated bluff
and beach access stairs, which are used by a multitude of residents who reside in the North Fork Beach Condominium. Both the
top surface of the deck (<200 mil) and stairway construction are unregulated activities as defined by Chapter Ill of the Town
Code and therefore do not require a Coastal Erosion Management Permit. The +/-300 s.fi reduction in deck footprint and use of
untreated decking material will create a net improvement in the property with respect to Chapter 275.
PROJECT ID NUMBER
617.20 ~LI
APPENDIX
STATE ENVIRONMENTAL ~D/REVIEW
SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
for UNLISTED ACTIONS Only
(To be completed by A 4icant or Project Sponsor)
2. PROJECT NAME
SEQR
PART 1- PROJECT INFORMATION
I4 O~PI~C~L~S~IC~RC ON D O M IN 1U M BY
EN-CONSULTANTS, INC. NORTH FORK BECH CONDOMINIUM DECK & STAIRS
3. PROJECT L~ATION:
M~d~i~ SOUTHOLD County SUFFOLK
4. PRECISE L~ATION: Street Address and Road Intersections. Prom~ent landmarks etc - or provide map
52325 COUNTY ROAD 48, TO~ OF SOUTHOLD, SCTM gl000-135-1-22.1
6. DE~RIBE PROJECT BRIEFLY:
Remove existing +/- 400 square-foot deck and stairs, and construct in-place of removed deck a Iff x 10' deck with 6' x 12' stairs
to beach; and construct 6' x 6' platform and 6' x 14' stairs to deck, all as depicted on the project plan prepared by
En-Consultants, Inc., dated September 2 l, 2010.
AMOUNT OF LAND AFFECTED:
lni~ally 1,752 S.F. acres Ultimately 1,752 S.F. acres
8. WILL PROPOSED ACTION COMPLY WITH EXISTING ZONING OR OTHER RESTRICTIONS?
[~Yes [] No If no, describe briefly:
9. WHAT IS PRESENT LAND USE IN VICINITY OF PROJECT? (Choose as many as apply.)
[~ResidenBal ~l.dllsthal [~Commercial [~Agficulture ~] Park / Forest / Open Space
DOther (describe)
10. DOES ACTION INVOLVE A PERMIT APPROVAL, OR FUNDING, NOW OR ULTIMATELY FROM ANY OTHER GOVERNMENTAL
AGENCY (Federal, State or Local)
[~Yes [--] No If list name and permit / approval:
yes,
agency
NYS DEC
11. DOES ANY ASPECT OF THE ACTION HAVE A CURRENTLY VALID PERMIT OR APPROVAL?
[~Yes []No If yes, list agency name and permit / approval:
I~.~S A Ph~LT OF PROPOSED ACTION WILL EXISTING PERMIT/ APPROVAL REQUIRE MODIFICATION?
I CERTIFY THAT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ABOVE IS TRUE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE
Applicant/SponsorName ROB~E. HERRMANN, COASTALMANAGEMENTSPECIALIST Date: SEPT. 27,2010
Signature n~.~-~ ~' '"
If the action is a Coastal Area, and you are a state agency,
complete the Coastal Assessment Form before proceeding with this assessment
PART II - IMPACT ASSESSMENT (To be completed by Lead Agency)
B. V~ILLACT1ONRECEIVECOORDINATEDREVIEWASPROVlDEDFORUNLISTEDACTIONSiN6 NYCRR, PART617.67 IfNo, anega~,e
I-Iv- [Z].o
C. COULD ACTION RESULT IN ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS ASSOCIATED ~MTH THE FOtJ_OWING: (Answers may be hamlmiften, If inglble) C1. F-~ds~ng air quaRy, sulface or groundwater quaBty or quantity, ~ise invels, mdstlng trafltc pattern, ~ ~ ~ or ~1,
Growth, subsequent de~,~,,~,,,en(, or' related activities likely to be iadu~l by Ihe propesed ac~on? Explain briefly:
C6. Long tram, short term, cumulative, or other effects not inentlfmd in O1-CS? Explain briefly:.
D. W1EL THE PROJECT HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS THAT CAUSED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CRITICAt
E. I$ THERE, OR IS THERE UKELY TO BEI CONTROVERSY RELATED TO POTENTIAL ADVERSE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS? If
PART III - DETERMINATION OF SIGNIFICANCE (To be completed by .,~]ency)
INSl~UCTIONS: F~eachadversee~ect~denfJ~edab~ve~detmminewhatheritls~ub~tantia~arge~im~r~n~nL Each
ef[ect should be assessed in connec~on with its (a) setting (i.e. urban or rural); (b) prohabllity of occurring; (c) dma0on; (d) In~versbir~, (e)
geographic scope; and (f) magnitude. If neoessary, add adachments or refeme~e supporting materials. Ensure that explanations contain
mJfficient detail to show that all relevant adverse impacts have been Identified and adequately addressed. If question d of pa~ Ii was checked
ym~. the,determination of significance mustevaluata the potential impact of the proposed action on the environmental chamctadslk~ oftha ~
Cbec~ this box If you have Identlfmd one or more potentially large or slgnlfl~ant m impacts which ~y ~. Tben proceed dlrectly to Ihe FUU
FAF and/or prepare a positive declaration.
gVlLL NOT result 1~ any signfllcant adverse eflvIronmental Impacts A~D provide, ~ altach~ as nece~, the reasons supporting th~
determination.
Board of Trustees
Name of Lead Agency
Jill M. Doherty ·
PJint or Tyi~e Ngtrne of R~sponsible Officer in Lead Agency
President
Title of Responsible Officer
Sigr~ture of Preparer (If different from responsible officer)
V
Jill M. Doherty, President
James F. King, Vice-President
Dave Bergen
Bob Ghoslo, Jr.
John Bredemeyer
Town Hall, 53095 Main Rd.
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Telephone (63 I) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-6641
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the Matter of the Application of
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
STATE OF NEW YORK)
AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING
I ~J' ; I
being duly sworn, depose and say:
That on thel'ro[glday of 0~6'~ ,2010, I personally posted the property known as
by placing the Board of Trustees official po~ter where it can easily be seen, and that I have checked
to be sure the poster has remained in place for eight days prior to the date of the public hearing.
Date of hearing noted thereon to be held Wed.~ October 20~ 2010 on or about 6:00 PM.
Dated:
(signatur¢~ ~
Sworn to before me this
day oft~¢/ 2011/o
NOTICE TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER
BOARD OF TRUSTEES, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
In the matter of applicant:
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM SCTM# 1000-135-1-22.1
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. That it is the intention of the undersigned to request a Permit from the Board of
Trustees to:
Remove existing +/- 400 square-foot deck and stairs, and construct in-place of removed deck a 10' x 10'
deck with 6' x 12' stairs to beach; and construct 6' x 6' platform and 6' x 14' stairs to deck, all as depicted on
the project plan prepared by En-Consultants, Inc., dated September 2 l, 2010.
2. That the property which is the subject of Environmental Review is located
adjacent to your property and is described as follows:
52325 COUNTY ROAD 48, SOUTHOLD
3. That the project which is subject to Environmental Review under Chapters
96,111 and/or 275 of the Town Code is open to public comment on:
DATE: OCTOBER 20TH, 2010 ~ 6:00 P.M.
You may contact the Trustees Office at 765-1892 or in writing.
The above-referenced proposal is under review of the Board of Trustees of the Town of
Southold and does not reference any other agency that might have to review same
proposal.
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
PROPERTY OWNERS NAME: c/o NIKOLAS PAPACHR1STOU, PRESIDENT
MAILING ADDRESS: 28-51 49TH STREET, ASTORIA, NY 11103
PHONE#: 917-939-4771
AGENT:
EN-CONSULTANTS, INC.
MAILING ADDRESS: 1319 NORTH SEA ROAD, SOUTHAMPTON, NY 11968
PHONE #: 631-283-6360
Enc: Copy of sketch or plan showing proposal for your convenience.
PROOF OF ~ILING OFNOT~
ATTACH CERTIFIED ~IL I~E~TS
Name: Address:
ALI HOMAYUNI 2001 QUALIFIED 111 EXECUTIVE DRIVE
PERSONAL RESIDENCE NEW HYDE PARK, NY 11040
ANGELOPADOVAN
19120 67thDRIVE
FOREST HILLS, NY 11375
NORTH FORK BEACH CONDOMINIUM
CO NIKOLAS PAPACHRISTOU, PRESIDENT
28-51 49TH STREET
ASTORIA, NY 11103
STATE OF NEW YORK
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
ROBERT E. HERRMANN doing business at EN-CONSULTANTS, INC.
1319 NORTH SEA ROAD
SOUTHAMPTON, NY 11968 , being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the
/ LA day of ~F/~ ,20 10 , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice
set forth in the Board of Trustees Application, directed to each of the above named
persons at the addresses set opposite their respective names; that the addresses set
opposite the names of said persons are the address of said persons as shown on the current
assessment roll of the Town of Southold; that said Notices were mailed at the United States Post
Office at SOUTHAMPTON , that said Notices were Mailed to each of said persons by
(certified) iRO0~x%~) mail.
ROBERT E. HERRMANN
COASTAL MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST
Sworn tq>nbefore me this
day oS CdO , ,20lO
~ ~ Notary Publ~c-
Ali Homayuni 2001 Qualified
Personal Residence
111 Executive Drive
New Hyde Park, NY 11040
'~ OFF
m
Postege
ILl
Certified Fee
CIAL U'S
m North Fork Beach Condominium
~ ~ c/o Nikolas Papachnstou
Ell ~/r~,'~7 ~," th
p_[orm~ox~. 28-51 49 Street
~ Astoria, NY 11103
OFFICIAL USE
r-1 Postage
~o s°"I_ ro Angelo Padovan
m ~F,~'~i'~,~:~:F'19120 67th Drive
r,- uE~;;~t~;i Forest Hills, NY 11375
Board of Trustees Applica~on
AUTHORIZATION
(where the applicant is not the owner)
(print owner of property)
residing at
(mailing address)
do hereby authorize
(Agent)
to apply for permit(s) from the
So. Trustees
~x~ (O~>~r~s signature)
on my behalf.
County of Suffolk
State of New York
DESCRIBED PERMIT(S) AND THAT ALL STATEMENTS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE
TRUE TO THE BEST OF HIS/HER KNOWLEDGE AND BELIEF, AND THAT ALL WORK
WILL BE DONE IN THE MANNER SET FORTH IN THIS APPLICATION AND AS MAY
BE APPROVED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF TRUSTEES. THE APPLICANT
AGREES TO HOLD THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD AND THE TOWN TRUSTEES
HARMLESS AND FREE FROM ANY AND ALL DAMAGES AND CLAIMS ARISING
UNDER OR BY VIRTUE OF SAID PERMIT(S), IF GRANTED. IN COMPLETING THIS
APPLICATION, I HEREBY AUTHORIZE THE TRUSTEES, THEIR AGENT(S) OR
REPRESENTATIVES(S), TO ENTER ONTO MY PROPERTY TO 1NSPECT THE
PREMISES IN CONJUNCTION WITH R~PLICAT1ON.
SWORN TO BEFORE ME THIS
VINODKUMAR C. SHINGWANI
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of New York
No. 01SH4799926
Qualified in Queens County
Certificate filed in New York County
Commission Expires Dec. 31, 2009
APpLiCANT/AGENT/REPRESENTATIVE
TRANSACTIONAL DiscLOSURE FoRM
· · the art oft°~s
this form is to rovide mmr
ssa toaV
nece less ou are applying m the n~me of
' r corllpany'$ name.)
person s o
NAME OF A?PLICATION: (Check all that apply.) Building
~ Trustee
~ Coastal Erosion
~ Mooring
~ Planning
Tax grievance
Variance
Change of Zone
Approval of plat
Exemption from plat or official map /
Do you personar. Y (,. ~A~ ,,Relationsbip inclu Y
including a partnership, in which the town officer or employee has even a partial ownership
of the Town of DOlltt~Otu
town officer or employee owns more than 5% of the shares.
in which the
NO ~ ' d
yES ~ ..... nd date and sign where md]cate ·
If you answered "yES", complete the balance of tins
Name of person employed by the ";own of Southold _
Title or position of that person _~.~ '~ nd the t~wn officer or emplo)ee. Either check
...... licant/agentirepresem~"ve' a
relationship between yourselt tthe ?v~( -~-~ ~ce nro,Aded.
Describe the through D) and]or descr t~e m
the appropriate line A)
The town officer or employee or his or her spouse, s~bbng, parent, or chdd Is (check all that apply)
corporate stock of the applicant
~rxj t(n~e~h~ the applicant is a corporatl°m.'lterest in a non.corporate entity (when the
B) the legal or beneficial owner of any n
~ licant is not a corporation); ~.,lo,~ee of the applicant; or
app ' ctor artner, or ~-.v
C) an officer, dire , P
~D) the actual applicant·
DESCRIPTION OF RELATIONSHIP
Submitted this
Signature~
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Form TS 1
EN-CONSULTANTS, INC.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING
- 1319 North SeaRoad
Southampton, New York 11968
631-283-6360
Fax: 631-283-6136
www. enconsultants.com
Mark Terry, LWRP Coordinator
Planning Board
Town of Southold
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Re: North Fork Beach Condominium~ 52325 County Road 48~ Southold
Dear Mr. Terry:
Attached please fred a copy of an application being filed with the Board of Trustees for a Town Wetlands
Permit to remove replace a preexisting nonconforming deck and associated stairways with a 10' x 10'
deck and associated stairways, all located within 100 feet of wetlands and within a within a Coastal
Erosion I3azsrd Area, all as depicted on the survey prepared by Nathan Taft Corwin, III, L.S., dated
August 18, 2010, and the project plan prepared by En-Consultants, Inc., dated September 21, 1010.
Pursuant to Town Code §268-5 ("Review of Actions") and the corresponding definitions of"action"
and "minor action" by §286-3 ("Definitions"), the proposed construction activities meet the
following definition of minor action: "B. Replacement, rehabilitation, or reconstruction of a facility,
in kind, on the same site (in place)...except for structures in areas designated by the Coastal Erosion
Hazard Area (CEHA) law where slxuctares may not be replaced, rehabilitated, or reconstructed
without a permit...." Because both the "stairways constructed solely for pedestrian use and built by
an individual property owner for the limited purposes of providing noncommercial access to the
beach" and the replacement deck to be constructed over open timber framework "with a top surface
area of less than 200 square feet" are defined as "unregulated activities" by §111-6, their
construction is not regulated by Chapter 111 and may be constructed without a Coastal Erosion
Management Permit.
The proposed additions therefore qualify as minor actions that are not subject to waterfront
consistency review pursuant to Chapter 268. Thus, I have not filed an LWRP Consistency
Assessment Form with the Trustees. Should you determine the project is not exempt from
waterfront consistency review, however, please let me know and I will file the form with your office
immediately.
Re~ly yours, -~
Robert E. Hernnann
Coastal Management Specialist
cc: Lauren Standish, Board of Trustees
EN-CONSULTANTS, INC.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING
1319 North Sea Road
Southampton, New York 11968
631-283-6360
Fax: 631-283-6136
www. enconsultants.com
September 27, 2010
Town of Southold
Board of Trustees
54375 Main Road
Post Office Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Atm.: Lauren Standish
SEP 2 cj 20 0
Re:
North Fork Beach Condominium
52325 County Road 48, Southold
SCTM #1000-135-1-22.1
Dear Ms. Standish:
In regard to the above referenced property, enclosed are the following for the Board of Trustees review:
Three (3) Wetland Permit Applications including:
a) Short Environmental Assessment Form;
b) Authorization & Disclosure Forms;
c) project plans; and
d) survey.
One ( 1 ) set of site photographs.
Application fee of $250.00 wetlands.
I trust this information shall allow you to process our permit request. Should any additional information
be required, please do not hesitate to contact our office.
Coastal Management Specialist
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TOWN OF $OUTHOLD
SUFFOLK COUNTY, NEW YORK
S.C. TAX No. 1000-155-01-22.1
SCALE 1"=20'
JUNE .30, 2010
AREA 1,752 sq. ff.
(TO TIE LINE) 01040 CC .
NOTEs:
1. LOT NUMBERS SHOWN THUS: LOT(~
REFER
TO
MAP OF PROPERTY OF NATHAN GOLDIN
FILE IN THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK OF SUFFOLK
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1932 AS FILE No. 1106
2. ELEVATIONS ARE REFERENCED
EXISTING ELEVATIONS ARE
EXISTING CONTOUR LINES
COUNTY
TO N.A.V.D. 1988 DATUM
SHOWN THUS:~
ARE SHOWN THUS: --
N,Y,S, LIC. NO 50467
THE EXISTENCE OF RIGHTS OF WAY
AND/OR EASEMENTS OF RECORD, IF
ANY, NOT SHOWN ARE NOT GUARANTEED.
Nathan Taft Corwin III
Land Surveyor
PHONE (631)727-2090 Fox (631)727-1727
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