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LAND PRESERVATION COMMITTEE MEETING
Minutes & Discussion Notes from Meeting held
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 at 7:00 p.m.
Members Present: John Sepenoski, Chairman (7:45 p.m. – purposely late to avoid being present for
Conway property discussion item which is a conflict of interest due to family
relationship to property owners)
Ray Huntington Chris Baiz
Maureen Cullinane Eric Keil
Monica Harbes (7:15 p.m.)
Members Absent: Lillian Ball (broken wrist)
Also present: Melissa Spiro, Land Preservation Coordinator
Al Krupski, Town Board Liaison
David Page (property owner – Shinn Vineyard, LLC)
Barbara Shinn (property owner – Shinn Vineyard, LLC)
Stephen Searl, Peconic Land Trust (7:30 p.m.)
Commencement:
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The meeting began at 7:05 p.m. with four LPC members present.
Adoption of Meeting Minutes:
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ACCEPTANCE OF MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 8, 2009 & DECEMBER 22, 2009
HOLD until next LPC meeting as latest meeting minutes were not distributed in a timely manner for
review.
Applications and Inquiries:
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CONWAY (Estate of Julia) PROPERTY
SCTM #: 1000-54-7-21.1 Offered: fee purchase or dev rights
Location: 4395 Horton La, Southold Zoned: AC, R-40 (0.26 acre)
Total Acreage: 34 acres (GPS 33.86) CPF: Yes
Subdividable: Yes FWet: 0.52 acre (need to verify)
John Sepenoski, LPC Chairman, was not present for a discussion of this project due to a family
relationship.
The LPC members entered into EXECUTIVE SESSION.
Update re: status [executive session].
DISCUSSION: Melissa gave update re: meeting she and Stephen Searl had with Joe Conway
(Estate Executor) and the counter-offer Mr. Conway presented to LPC’s purchase offer of December
16, 2009. LPC discussed counter offer, appraised values, funding and potential re-sale values for
restricted farmland.
MOTION made by Maureen Cullinane, seconded by Eric Keil, that in response to property owner’s
counter offer for sale of farmland owned by the Estate of Julia Conway to the Town of Southold, that
purchase offer be increased and that Melissa Spiro, Land Preservation Coordinator be authorized
and directed to present a revised purchase offer to Mr. Conway for a fee title purchase to the 34±
acre Conway Farm. The purpose of this acquisition is for farmland protection.
Motion carried: 4/1 (Ray Huntington – no; John Sepenoski not present for discussion or vote)
MOTION made by Ray Huntington, seconded by Maureen Cullinane, to establish a purchase price for
the purchase of development rights based upon buildable acres of the Conway Farm. No structural
restrictions to be established at this time.
Motion carried: 5/0
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MANOR GROVE PROPERTY
SCTM # 1000-53-1-1.2 Zoned: R-80/LB (3.39 acres)
Location: 68775 Route 25, Greenport CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 10.38 acres (GIS) Subdividable: Yes
FWet: 6.65 acres
SCTM # 1000-53-1-1.3 Zoned: R-80/LB (0.79 acre)
Location: 650 Albertson La, Greenport CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 19.1 acres (GIS) Subdividable: Yes
FWet: 10.66 acres
Update re: status [executive session].
DISCUSSION: Melissa gave update as to status. The Nature Conservancy is now Contract Vendee
with intent to sell to Town of Southold and County of Suffolk. Issue of encroachments to property
were discussed and noted that Town (not County) will be responsible for removal of structure.
Estimate for removal prepared by Jim McMahon, DPW.
END OF EXECUTIVE SESSION
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MOFFAT/WOLFE PROPERTY
SCTM #: (farm) 1000-55-2-10.1 Zoned: A-C
Location: 47775 CR 48, Southold CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 26.20 acres (GIS 25.66 acres) Subdividable: Yes
SCTM #: (waterfront) 1000-55-3-6.1 Zoned: R-80
Location: 50100 CR 48, Southold CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 36.34 acres (GIS 35.63 acres) Subdividable: Yes
Re-listing of property for sale.
DISCUSSION: Melissa noted that LPC application had been received; however, application did not
contain detail as to areas to be reserved from any potential purchaser of development rights. Melissa
noted that SCTM #1000-55-2-10.1 (north of CR 48) may be potential candidate for pending Federal
grant (FRPP) due February 1, 2010. John Sepenoski noted that access to farm must be maintained
at easterly side of farm as access to farm is not possible on west side due to bank and curve in CR
48.
MOTION made by Ray Huntington, seconded by Chris Baiz, to direct Melissa Spiro to commission an
appraisal of the Moffat property located on the north side of CR 48 (SCTM #1000- 55-2-10.1) for the
purchase of a development rights easement. No action to be taken on Moffat property located on the
south side of CR 48 (SCTM #1000 -55-3-6.1) at this time.
Motion carried: 6/0
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TUTHILL PROPERTIES
SCTM # 1000-17-6-14.2 Zoned: R-80
Location: 21920 Rt 25, Orient CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 35.2 acres (GIS)
SCTM # 1000-17-4-16 Zoned: R-80
Location: 21505 Rt 25, Orient CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 21.2 acres (GIS)
SCTM # 1000-18-3-30.3 Zoned: R-80
Location: 26975 Rt 25, Orient CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 28.7 acres (GIS)
SCTM # 1000-18-6-17.3 Zoned: R-80/R-200
Location: 7685 Narrow River Rd, Orient CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: 15.8+11.8 acres (GIS)
Discussed meeting with landowner, Planning Staff and Melissa Spiro.
DISCUSSION: Melissa gave update re: meeting she had with landowner and Planning Staff
concerning potential Conservation Subdivision involving four properties.
MOTION made by Chris Baiz, seconded by Monica Harbes, to direct Melissa Spiro to commission
appraisals for properties owned by the Tuthill Family members in conjunction with overall potential
Conservation Subdivision plan.
Motion carried: 6/0
Additions to Agenda:
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SILL PROPERTIES
SCTM #: 1000-45-5-3 Zoned: LIO
Location: 70282 Main Rd, Greenport CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: ±15.2 acres
SCTM #: 1000-45-5-4 Zoned: R-80
Location: 70284 Main Rd, Greenport CPF: Yes
Total Acreage: ±8.95 acres
DISCUSSION: Melissa gave update re: potential County/Town partnership. County may not proceed
with landowner’s requirements. Town should proceed with appraisals to start preservation process.
MOTION made by Ray Huntington, seconded by Maureen Cullinane, to direct Melissa Spiro to
commission an appraisal of the north lot, SCTM #1000-45-5-3 if County is appraising south lot, SCTM
#1000-45-5-4. If County requires two separate appraisals, then Melissa directed to commission two
separate appraisals for the Sill properties.
Motion carried: 6/0
Applications & Inquiries for Uses or Structures on Preserved Property:
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SCTM #1000-100-4-3.2 (Shinn Estate Vineyards / David Page & Barbara Shinn)
Request for approval for wind turbine within Development Rights Easement within location
approved by ZBA 12/29/09.
David Page and Barbara Shinn (owners of Shinn Vineyard, LLC) were in attendance for this agenda
item.
Melissa read recent ZBA decision and location approved by ZBA on 12/29/09.
MOTION made by Chris Baiz, seconded by Maureen Cullinane, to approve the request of Shinn
Vineyard, LLC for the construction of a wind turbine in the location as described in the December 29,
2009 Zoning Board of Appeals Findings, Deliberations and Determination. The December 29, 2009
Findings, Deliberations and Determination granted alternative relief as follows: “A 120 foot high small
wind energy system (wind turbine) may be set back from the applicant’s easterly property line at no
less than 150.5 feet ± 2 feet, located on the Town’s easement to the west of the applicants’
residential property line, in a location that is not currently planted with vines.” The Committee is
permitting this structure within the development rights easement on the condition that it is compatible
with the purpose of the development rights easement and subordinate to the agricultural use of the
property. Should the turbine be utilized in a manner that differs in any way from that proposed to the
Committee, or to site the turbine at a location that differs from that proposed to the Committee,
landowner will be required to obtain additional approval from the Land Preservation Committee.
Motion carried: 4/0 (Monica Harbes & John Sepenoski not present at time of voting)
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BITTNER PARK AREA: DECEMBER 28, 2009 PLAN FROM JIM McMAHON
DISCUSSION: LPC reviewed 12/28/09 parking plan. Plan did not contain enough detail and was not
designed as last discussed by LPC. LPC did not approve plan. Lillian to revise plan with Jim
McMahon and to bring revised plan back to LPC for review.
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GRASSLAND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES PREPARED BY JIM McMAHON AND REQUEST FOR
GRASSLAND MANAGEMENT ON: MILL ROAD PRESERVE, DAM POND MARITIME RESERVE,
ARSHAMOMAQUE PRESERVE AND LAUREL LAKE PRESERVE.
DISCUSSION: LPC had lengthy discussion regarding grassland management plan and did not
accept draft as prepared by Jim McMahon. Plan had acceptable list of grassland management
practices, but the plan itself, required more work that would contain specifics related to where, how
much, what methods would be used, cost, start date, etc.
John Sepenoski, Chairman, agreed to conduct additional research on this as well as other practices
needed such as invasives removal).
LPC members agreed that until a Grassland Management Plan was developed and approved by the
Committee, that no such work should be conducted within the preserves and the only mowing that
should be done at this time is routine mowing of the official trails.
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2010 STEWARDSHIP REQUEST (as per John Sepenoski)
John Sepenoski handed out “Draft Stewardship Tasks”. He asked LPC member to review and e-mail
comments to him.
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UPDATED/NEW STEWARDSHIP MANAGEMENT PLANS (as per John Sepenoski)
John Sepenoski handed out several draft Management Plans:
Hog’s Neck Preserve – added deer management to existing Plan
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Reese and others - He has re-named to Pipes Cove and added other holdings to existing
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Plan.
Arshamomaque Pond Preserve – New draft intentionally did not include County holding until
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such time that County reviews Plan.
He asked LPC members to review and to e-mail comments to him.
General Land Preservation Items:
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Farm and Ranch Lands Protection Program
Applications for FY2010 due February 1, 2010
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Melissa went over potential projects for current round of NRCS/FRPP grant proposal.
Status of FY2009 Award
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Melissa noted that NRCS reviewing Easement and Appraisal for 2009 project
Status of FY 2007 award
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Melissa went over status of award and project (ZIP Realty) eligible for award. Project was
appraised, offer was made based on appraisal, public hearing was held and contract was
executed. Grant requires appraisal value within 1 year of closing. Appraisal is >1 year. Town
has executed contract and proceeding with project at contracted purchase price. NRCS will
award funds for 50% of appraised value with Town proceeding at contracted purchase price.
This will result in NRCS paying 50% of appraised value but <50% of purchase price. LPC
approved getting updated appraisal for project in order to remain eligible for grant funding.
General Information:
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REQUEST FOR 1/19/10 TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION APPOINTMENT RE: BLOCKER RD
Melissa note that she talked to Jim McMahon, DPW, and that he is proceeding with improvements to
right-of-way and that Town Board appointment was not necessary at this time.
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2010 AG FORUM – JANUARY 14 & 15
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Melissa Spiro to attend Thursday session, January 14. Ray Huntington to attend Friday session,
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January 15.
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COUNTY FARMLAND COMMITTEE MEETING – JANUARY 26 IN HAUPPAUGE, 12 NOON
Next Regular Meeting:
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The next regular meeting will be held on Tuesday, January 26, 2010, at 7:00 p.m., in the Annex
Executive Board Room.
Adjournment:
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The meeting was adjourned 10:15 p.m. by the six attending LPC members.
Respectfully submitted by Melissa Spiro, Land Preservation Coordinator