HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-12/01/2009ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
TOWN CLERK
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MARRIAGE OFFICER
RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
PO Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Fax (631) 765-6145
Telephone: (631) 765 - 1800
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MINUTES
December 1, 2009
7:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board
Meeting Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, NY. Supervisor
PM with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
7:30
Call to Order
7:30 PM Meeting called to order on Decembe~J., 2009
Southold, NY.
Attendee Name Organization
William Ruland
Vincent Orlando
Albert Krupski Jr. Town
Thomas H. Wickham Town of 5
Louisa P. Evans ld
Scott Russell
Elizabeth A. of Southold
Martin D. F
ng Hall, 53095 Route 25,
Title Status Arrived
Present
Present
Present
ouncilman Present
Justice Present
Supervisor Present
Town Clerk Present
Town Attorney Present
I. Reports
Recreation ~,~tment
October 2009
Justice Price Monthly Report
October 2009
4. Justice Evans Monthly Report
October 2009
December 1, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
5. Budget Report
Month ended October 31, 2009
II. Public Notices
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 A.M. - EXECUTIVE SESSION - Leslie Wiesman, Gerry Goehringer
Employment of Particular person in the ZBA office
2. 9:30 A.M. - EXECUTIVE SESSION - Peter Harris
Employment Retirement Incentives
3. Letter of Support for Route 48 Project
4. 10:00 A.M. - Jim McMahon
Dredging of Goldsmith Inlet
5. 10:15 A.M. - Jim McMahon
Bittner Preserve Demolition Project
6. 10:30 A.M. ~ Jamie Richter
Invoice/New Suffolk Boat Ramp
7. MSW Shipping
8. Bagging System
Bids & Decisions
9. Screener
Bids
10. SCWA Update
11. Dark Skies Legislation
12. CAC Vacancy
13. Executive Session - Litigation
Update on East End v. DEC re:Saltwater fishing licenses
Page 2
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Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
14. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Litigation
Update on Edson
Opening Comments
Supervisor Scott Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise and join in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Thank
you. At this point, would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on any issue as
it appears on the agenda? On the agenda items. We will be having a public hearing, that was the
protocol for the LWRP changes so you can make those comments if you want at that time but for
any of the regular agenda items? Oh, come on up.
Trustee Jill Doherty
JILL DOHERTY, SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEE: I just wanted to thank you for your, the
process, I appreciate the process you went through for the saltwater fishing license that the DEC
put out and the lawsuits that the other towns are going in and I appreciate your efforts and what
you pt through and the considerations and I am very pleased to observe, the Board is very
pleased that you guys have a resolution on tonight to join that action. It, you know, it brings,
keeps home role here and it is a, you know, fundamental right for our residents and it keeps that
for us. So thank you.
Peter Bell, Cutchogue
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Anybody else?
UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: To the microphone, please.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah. What we will do is we will complete, we will get the agenda
over with and then what I will do is invite you to come back up and address the Board on any
issue under the sun. Okay?
Minutes Approval
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Friday, October 17, 2008
Vote Record - Acceptance of Minutes for October 17~ 2008 3:00 PM
yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Accepted Vincent Orlando Voter [] [3 [] []
[] Accepted as Amended AIbetl Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] : [] []
[] Tabled Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
Scotl Russell Voter [] [] Fl []
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Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Thursday, October 15, 2009
Vote ReC°rd-AccePtance of Minutes for October 15~ 2009 6:00 PM
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Accepted Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Accepted as Amended A!~ ~p~k! ~r: x/pier
[] Tabled ~omas H W ckham Sec0~der [] 13 [] []
Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] 13 Fl
Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
RESOLVED that the Town Board 0fthe Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
~r vote Rec0rd ~ Accepthnee of Minutes for october ~0i 2009 ~-~0 PM:
Y~/Aye No~ay Abstain Absent
William Ruled Vot~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Accept~ as ~end~ Xi~ ~S~ lr~ v0t~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Tabl~ ~omas H. Wic~m S~ond~ ~ ~ ~ D
~uisa P. Evans
Scott Russell V~i~ ~ D ~ 0
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Wednesday, November 04, 2009
Vote Record - AccePtance 0f Minutes fo,r N~ 0vember;4, 2009 4:00 PM
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Accepted Vincent Orlando Voter
[] Accepted as Amended Albert Krapski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
Louisa P. Evans Initiator ~ [] [] []
Sco6 Russell Voter ~ ~ D ri
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the minutes dated:
Wednesday, November 04, 2009
vote Record- Accept ~ee of Minutes for November 4i 200~ 7:00 PM :
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
William Ruland Voter [] D [] []
[] Accepted Vincent Orlando Voter ~ [] [3 ' D
A!b~ ~pski J[: Voter []
[] Accepted as Amended [] [3 []
[] Tabled Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
Scott Russell Voter ~ O [] []
V. Resolutions
2009-913
CA TEGOR Y: Audit
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Approve Audit 12/1/09
December 1, 2009 Page 5
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated
December 1, 2009.
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended [] [] [] []
William Ruland Voter
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr.Voter [] [] D
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisors Appt MU S~ P Evans h i ai0r El [] FI FI
[] Tax Receiver's Appt El
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter
2009-914
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Set Meeting
Town Clerk
Set Next Meeting 12/15/09 4.'30 Pm
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 4:30 P. M..
Vote Rec0rd- Resolution RES-2009-914
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled [] [] []
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter
2009-915
CA TEGOR ¥:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Police Dept
Budget Modification - Police
Fiscal Impact:
To cover unanticipated overtime earnings due to staffing shortages
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
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From:
A.3120.1.100.300 Vacation Earnings $50,000.00
To:
A.3120.1.100.200 Overtime Eamings $50,000.00
,t' Vote Regord - Resolution RES-2009-915
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-916
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Rescind Budget Modification 2009-246
Fiscal Impact:
This grant from US Fish and Wildlife Service was to have been used for improvements to the Town's boat
ramp on Mattituck Inlet. After establishment of the project budget, the Town agreed that we could not
execute the project as envisioned by Lillian Ball (mostly because of the Town's procurement procedures
and State law concerning procurement), so the grant was allocated to another group to accomplish the
project.
WHEREAS the Town of Southold has administratively reallocated the grant from the National
Fish and Wildlife Foundation for the Mattituck Inlet Stormwater Mitigation project (NY) #2008-
0065-020 to an agency that has subsequently completed the project, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds resolution no.
2009-246 adopted on March 24, 2009.
Note: The text of resolution no. 2009-246 read as follows:
WHEREAS the Town of Southold has received notice of a $40,000 grant award from the
National Fish and Wildlife Foundation for the Mattituck Inlet Stormwater Mitigation project
(NY) #2008-0065-020, and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold has determined that the financial activity
for this project should be reported in the Capital Fund, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the establishment
of the following Capital Project in the 2009 Capital Fund:
December 1, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 7
Capital Project Name:
Mattituck Inlet Stormwater Mitigation (NY) #2008-
0065-020
Financing Method:
Budget:
Revenues:
H.4097.00
Appropriations:
H.8540.2.100.200
Capital Grant from National Fish and Wildlife
Foundation
Capital Grant, Federal Government
US Fish and Wildlife Service/EPA
$40,000
Stormwater Mitigation
Capital Outlay
Mattituck Inlet Stormwater Mitigation
$40,000
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-916
[] Adopted yes/AYe No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando initiator [] [] F1 []
[] Tabled Alber~ Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] 13 [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Superviso~'s Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-917
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Recreation
Hire 2010 Winter Recreation Program Instructors
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an agreement with the following individuals and
businesses for the winter 2010 recreation programs~ all in accordance with the approval of the
Town Attorney. Funding for the instructors listed below has been budgeted for in the Recreation
Department's 2010 instructor line A7020.4.500.420.
Antoinette Beck-Witt (drawing class) ........................................... $30/hour
Thomas Boucher (guitar) ............................................................. $30/hour
Eugenia Cherouski (folk dancing) ............................................... $30/hour
Paula Croteau (cooking & baking classes) .........................$30/hour
Mary Dempsey (English as a second language) .......................... $30/hour
Lenora Dome (belly dancing) .................................................... $30/hour
Martha Eagle (Aerobics/Pilates/Yoga/Power Stretching) ........... $30/hour
Linda Eckert (sewing) ............................................................... $30/hour
East End Insurance Services (Defensive Driving) ..................... $30/person
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Kathy Gadomski (Youth Night Program) ........................ $30/hour
Tom Gadomski (Youth Night Program) ........................... $30/hour
Bill Gatz (Youth Basketball Program) .............................. $30/hour
Denise Gillies (Tai Chi) ............................................... $30/hour
Brian Hansen (Talking Baseball Program) ........................ $30/hour
Christine Henson Thorp (Crochet Class) ...........................$30/hour
Gaff Horton (rug hooking) ............................................. $30/hour
Dawn Ivans (handmade greeting cards) .............................$30/hour
Rosemary Martilotta (yoga classes) .................................. $55/class
Judy McCleery (Digital Photography) ..............................$30/hour
Cynthia Mignone (Youth Night Program) ............................$30/hour
Darren Mignone (Hula Hoop Fitness Program) .................... $30/hour
Riverside Gymnastics (gymnastics program) ....................... $50/person
Connie Rosnack (Youth Night Program) .............................$30/hour
Elizabeth Schaeffier (Stained Glass Workshop) .................. $30/hour
Candice Schott (Youth Night Program) ............................... $30/hour
Megan Schutt (Youth Night Program) ................................ $30/hour
Laurie Short (aerobics classes) ................................................... $30/hour
Steve Smith (Weight Training) ..................................................... $30/hour
Jocelyn Suglia (Youth Basketball Program) ......................... $30/hour
Barbara Terranova (nature walks) ..................................... $30/hour
Angela Tondo (Mommy & Me) ................................................... $30/hour
Touch Dancing Studios (ballroom dancing) ........................ $65/person
Maria Trupia (wreathmaking) ..................................................... $30/hour
Kendra Wadlington (beginner computer) ................................... $30/hour
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009=917
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krapski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdravm Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receivers Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter i~ [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] U]
Comments regarding resolution 917
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Albert, how is attendance at your belly dancing classes?
COUNCILMAN KRU!~SKI: Surprisingly g0od.
2009-918
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Bid Acceptance
Police Dept
Accept the Bid of Hoppy's Cleaners to Clean Southold Town Police Uniforms
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Hoppy's
Cleaners to clean Southoid Town Police Uniforms for calendar year 2010 in the mounts
indicated on the bid submitted, all in accordance with the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Re~olutton RES-2009-918
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Superviso~'s Appt
Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-919
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Bid Acceptance
Police Dept
Accept the Bid of Charles Greenblatt, Inc. to Supply the Town with Police Uniforms for 2010
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Charles
Greenblatt~ Inc. to supply the town with Police Uniforms for 2010 in the amounts indicated on the bid
submitted, all in accordance with the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Re~olution RES-2009-919
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski J~. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-920
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Misc. Public Hearing
Community Development
Set December 15, 2009 at 4.'35 PM, Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York 11971,
as the Time and Place for a Public Hearing on Proposed Amendments to the Community Development
Block Grant Program Budgets for the 2007, 2008 and 200 Budgets
Fiscal Impact:
Transfer Community Development Block Grant funds from the Southold Recreation Center Renovation
into the Peconic Lane Community Center Project
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets December 15~ 2009 at
4:35 PM~ Southold Town Hall~ 53095 Main Road~ Southold~ New York 11971~ as the time
and place for a Public Hearing on proposed amendments to the Community Development
Block Grant Program Budgets for the 2007~ 2008 and 2009 budgets and authorizes Town
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Clerk Elizabeth Neville to publish an "Announcement of Public Hearing Notice" at which time
all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
Vote Record - ReSOlution RES-2009-920
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [3 [3 []
[] Tabled
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Snpervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott R~ssell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-921
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - Town
Accounting
Appoint Christine Foster to Secretarial Assistant
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Christine Foster
to the position of a Secretarial Assistant for the Accounting Department effective December
1, 2009, at a rate of $54,129.05 per annum.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-921
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Atnended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scoit Russell Voter [] [] [] []
11.
Comments regarding resolution 921
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let me just clarify, that position is actually, we had a vacancy
created by retirement. This particular employee is already an employee of the Town. This is an
appointment to the vacant position, she is taking this duty on in addition to her existing
responsibilities, that is a slight increase, collective of bargain agreement requires a 5% bump in
pay when you change titles. That is consistent with our effort to reduce income because we are
eliminating an entire salary from that department, the Accounting Department
2009-922
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Public Works
Laurel Lake Grant - NYS Parks, EPF Funded Project
Fiscal Impact:
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None
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute Appendix X to Contract #C540328 between the
Town of Southold and the New York State Office of Parks~ Recreation and Historic
Preservation in connection with the Laurel Lake Preservation and Trail Plan project, which
document extends the completion date from December 31, 2009 to December 31, 2010, subject
to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-922
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] U
[3 Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. lnitiato? [] 13 [] 13
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiveffs Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-923
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Solid Waste Management District
SWMD Budget Mods
Fiscal Impact:
Grinder Parts re: replacement of main hydraulic pump - could not be re-built; Grinder contracted
repairs re: 2 site visits over summer to troubleshoot and repair unexplained shutdown problem, bills
received recently; Computer software re: development of new report to reflect accounts receivable as per
revised budget revenue breakdown; E-waste re: increased volume, subject to 50% reimbursement by
NYSDEC.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009
Solid Waste Management District budget as follows:
From:
SR 8160.4.100.200 (Diesel Fuel)
SR 8160.4.400.680 (Trailer Fleet Repairs)
Total
To:
SR 8160.4.100.210 (Propane Fuel - Forklift)
SR 8160.4.100.596 (CBI Grinder Supplies)
SR 8160.4.400.675 (CBI Grinder Repairs - Contracted)
SR 8160.4.400.250 (Computer Sof~ware Support)
$ 7,750.00
$ 4,000.00
$11,750.00
$ 250.00
$ 4,000.00
$ 4,000.00
$ 1,500.00
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SR 8160.4.400.860 (E-Waste Removal
Total
$ 2,000.00
$11,750.00
Vote Record - Reaolutlon RES-2009-923
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. . Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H W ckham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receivea's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-924
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Surplus Equipment
Solid Waste Management District
Bid on Surplus Screening Plant
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reiects all bids received for
the Re-Teeh Screening Plant owned b.y the Solid Waste Management District.
Vote ReCOrd - Resolution RES-2009-924 , ,
[] Adopted Yes~A~ N0/N~y Abslain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham ln{tiat~r ~ [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt ~ [3 [] []
Louisa P. Evans Voter
[] Tax Receiver's Appt ~ El [2] El
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter
2009-925
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Authorize to Bid
Solid Waste Management District
SWMD Service Re-Bids
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby reiects any and all bids
received for scrap tire removal from the Cutchogue Transfer Station in 2010 and furthert
also hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to re-advertise for such bids.
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[] Adopted Yes/Aye NofNay Abstain Absent
13 Adopted as Amended William Ruiand Initiator [] [] [3 []
[] Defeated
[] Tabled Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Aib~ ~p~ki J~. ~ier ~ v1 [3 EJ
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] RescMded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-926
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Authorize to Bid
Solid Waste Management District
SWMD Leaf Bag, Lubricants Re-Bid
WHEREAS no bids were received in response to the solicitations for lubricants and leaf bags
for 2010, it is hereby RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorizes
and directs the Town Clerk to re-advertise for same.
ff Vote ReCOrd ~ R~solUti0n RE8-2009-926
[] Adopted Yes/Aye N~Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. seconder [] [] : [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] ~] [] []
2009-927
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Accounting
Engage Albrecht, Viggiano, Zureck & Co. - 2009 & 2010 Audits
Fiscal Impact:
Engagement letter for the 2009financial audit ($68,000), Justice Court Audit ($5,000), 2010financial
audit ($ 70, 000, Justice Court Audit ($5, 000). For 2009, this is a $3000 increase from the current year.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott Russell to execute an engagement letter with Albrecht, Vi~o~iano~ Zureck
and Company~ P.C. in connection with the Fiscal Year 2009 and Fiscal Year 2010 Single
Audits of the Town of Southold and audits of the Southold Town Justice Court as required by the
New York State Office of Court Administration, at a fee not to exceed $73,000 for the 2009
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audit and $75,000 for the 2010 audit, which shall be a legal charge to the General Fund Whole
Town Independent Auditing and Accounting Budget (A. 1320.4.500.300), all in accordance with
the approval of the Town Attorney.
¢ vote lle~., R~SOlUflon RES-2009=927
[] Adopted Yes/Axe No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
Voter
[] Rescinded Scott Russell [] [3 [3 D
2009-928
CATEGORY: Close/Use Town Roads
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Grant Permission to the Mattituck-Cutchogue Cub and Girl Scouts to Close Love Lane, Mattituck
Between Route 25 and Pike Street for Their Annual Tree Trimming and Holiday Celebration, on
Saturday, December 13, 2009from 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM
Fiscal Impact:
Total Police Department Cost for Event = $121.76
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the
Mattituck-Cutchogue Cub and Girl Scouts to close Love Lane~ Mattituck between Route 25
and Pike Street for their annual tree trimming and holiday celebration~ on Saturda¥~
December 13~ 2009 from 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One
Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured
and contact Capt. Flatley upon receipt of the approval of this resolution to coordinate traffic
control. Support is for this year only, as the Southold Town Board continues to evaluate the use
of town roads.
Vote Record - Re~olution RES-2009-928
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albe~t Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
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2009-929
C~I TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Highway Department
Budget Modification 2009 - Highway
Fiscal Impact:
The reason for these budget modifications is due to the fact that the line items would otherwise be under-
funded. The transfer to DB. 5130.2.300.100 is needed in order to increase this line item in order to
purchase a used pickup truck.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 Highway
Fund Part Town budget as follows:
To:
DB. 5110.4.100.905
DB.5130.2.300.100
From:
DB.5110.4.100.900
DB .5142.2.400.200
General Repairs
Contractual Expense
Supplies & Materials
Asphalt Patch
Machinery
Equipment & Capital Outlay
Motor Vehicles
Light Duty
General Repairs
Contractual Expense
Supplies & Materials
Resurfacing Projects
Snow Removal
Equipment
Industrial Equipment
Snow Equipment
$ 7,000.00
$1,100.00
TOTAL: $8,100.00
$7,000.00
$1,100.00
TOTAL: $8,100.00
~ V0te Record ~ Re~oluliOn RES;2009{929
~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Am~d~ William Ruland S~ond~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Tabl~ A!b~ ~PSki Jr: ~0t~ ~ ~ ~ 0
~ Sup~i~s Appt ~uisa P. Evans Vot~ ~ ~ D ~
~ Rcsc~d~ Scott Russell Vot~ ~ ~ ~ ~
2009-930
CA TEGOR Y: Budget Modification
December 1, 2009 Page 16
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DEPARTMENT: Human Resource Center
HRC Budget Mod Vehicle Maint
Fiscal Impact:
To redistribute allocated budgeted funds to another account.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009
Human Resource Center General Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
Aoorooriations:
A.6772.4.400.300
A.6772.4.400.600
Pro~rams for the A~,in~,
Contractual Expense
Contracted Services
Printing
Equipment Maint & Repair
$400.00
$900.00
A.6772.4.600.100
A.6772.4.600.300
A.6772.4.600.500
To:
Appropriations:
A.6772.4.400.650
Miscellaneous
Advertising
Travel
Seminars and Training
Total:
$425.00
$475.00
$1000.00
($3200.00)
Programs for the Aging
Contractual Expense
Contracted Services
Vehicle Maint. & Repair
Total:
$3200.00
($3200.00)
Vote Record - Resolution RES~2009-930,
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended Willimn Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krapski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-931
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Committee Appointment
Town Clerk
Accept the Resignation of deanine Warns and Appoint Andrea Nydegger to the Youth Bureau Board
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
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Jeanine Warns and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Andrea Nvde~,~er to the Youth Bureau Board to fill the vacancy, effective immediately
through March 31,2011.
Vote Ree°rd ~ R6so]Uiion RES-2009~931
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter gl [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-932
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Bid Acceptance
Highway Department
Purchase Used Pick Up
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Superintendent of Highways~ Peter W. Harris~ to purchase one (1) used 2002~ Chevrolet
four-wheel drive Pickup Truck, for use by the Southold Town Highway Department~ in the
amount of $7~800.00, subiect to approval of the Town Attorney~ and that the appropriation
line to be charged is Highway Fund Part-Town Machinery (Light Duty) equipment line
DB.5130.2.300.100.
Vote Record - Resolution RE$-2009-932
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended Willimn Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisors Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Initiator [] [] [] []
2009-933
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Amend Resolution 2009-892
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Fiscal Impact:
This resolution must be amended as we cannot move funds from the General Fund Whole Town to Fishers
Island Sewer District. In addition, the original resolution included the incorrect fund designation.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends resolution no.
2009-892 to read as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 General
Fund~ Whole Town budget~ as follows:
From:
A.1620.4.100.100 Buildings & Grounds C.E. $450.00
Supplies & Materials
Miscellaneous
To:
A.1620.4.600.700 Buildings & Grounds C.E. $450.00
Miscellaneous
Licenses & Permits
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-933
g~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-934
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Clerk
Contract Change Order Municity General Code Publishers
Fiscal Impact:
Zero cost of software. Maintenance cost of $1,500. to be added to second year maintenance fee.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute and authorizes him to sign a change order to the
agreement between the Town of Southold and General Code Publishers Corporation in
connection with the Municity Contract in the amount of $1,500.00 for the term October 2009
through October 2010, to be added to second year maintenance fee in 2011, in accordance with
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the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Reeord- Resolution RES-2009-934
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Defe~ted Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt T~omas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] , [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-935
CATEGORY: Public Service
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Mattituck Route 25 Corridor Study
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold has recognized the need to prepare a
Mattituck Route 25 Corridor Study for the area located on Route 25 in the Hamlet of Mattituck,
bounded by the Laurel train station and Wickham Avenue to analyze the cumulative impact of
present and potential future development within this defined area; and it is therefore
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby directs the Planning
Department to prepare a Mattituck Route 25 Corridor Study.
Vote Record -Resolution RES-2009~935
[] Adopted Yes/AYe N0~Y Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder ~ [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krup~ki Jr. Voter [] [] [] [ []
[] Withdrawn ~S Fl ~i~kham Voter [] [] F1 []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] E]
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
26.
Comments regarding resolution 935
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: You are getting ahead of yourself with that train station in Laurel.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: Well, the train station is a long way from there. Back in the day,
you know they hung the mail on the hook and the train when it went by, it snatched it off there at
the train station in Laurel.
2009-936
CA TEGOR Y: Litigation
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DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs the Town Attorney to Move to Intervene in the Supreme Court, Suffolk County
Action Entitled "The Trustees of the Freeholders of the Commonalty and the Town of Southampton, Et Al.
I( Pete Grannis, Et Al."
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Attorney to move to intervene in the Supreme Courh Suffolk County action entitled
"The Trustees of the Freeholders of the Commonal ,ty and the Town of Southampton~ et al.
v. Pete Grannis~ et al." regarding the migratory fishing licensing requirement and fees imposed
upon the Town by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.
v' Vote ReCord, Resoiuti0n ~S-2009-936
[] Adopted ~s/3ty~ Np~N~Y Ab~tai~ Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr, Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] El
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Lou sa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
28.
Comments regarding resolution 936
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just want to quickly say that the Tmstee's are actually the ones
who kept bringing all the updated information to the Town Board and it was with their insistence
that the Town Board had monitored and decided when to jump into the soup.
2009-937
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Road Dedications
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Declaration of Covenants and
Restrictions (Pertaining to the Center Island) and All Other Necessary Documents to Effectuate Same
Between Zoumas Contracting Corp. and the Town of Southold
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions
(pertaining to the Center Island} and all other necessary documents to effectuate same
between Zoumas Contracting Corp. and the Town of Southold in connection with the road
dedication for the Zoumas at Deer Run subdivision, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
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[] Defeated Vincent Orlando seconder [] [] [] []
A!b~ ~p~k! Jr~ Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] F1 [] []
2009-938
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Retirement/Resignation
Town Clerk
Rescind Resolution 2009-907 Joseph Blados' Intent to Retire
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds Resolution 2009-
907 adopted November 17, 2009. Joseph Blados has withdrawn his intent to retire paperwork.
· r vote Re,rd; Res0iUi~n RE~2009,938
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended ~illiam Ruiand Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert gampski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H, Wickham Seconder gl [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt ~ ~ ~ ~
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter
2009-939
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Committee Appointment
Town Clerk
Appoint Audrey Horton to the Conservation Advisory Council
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Audrey Horton to
the Conservation Advisory Council to fill the vacancy created by the death of James D. Eckert;
term is effective immediately through March 31, 2010.
Vote Record - Re~olution RES-2009-939
[] Adopted yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Seconder [] [] : [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krapski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[3 Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter gl [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter gl [] [] []
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2009-940
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - Town
Town Attorney
Hire Vicki Toth/Secretary (Board of Appeals)
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Vield Toth to the
position of Secretary, {Board of Appeals) effective December 7, 2009, at an annual salary to be
determined in accordance with the collective bargaining contract.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-940
gl Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain · Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] ' []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] · []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] ~ []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter gl [] [] []
33.
Comments regarding resolution 940
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We don't want to hold it but I would ask to strike that salary. Salary
to be calculated by the Accounting Department.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: To be determined by the...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: To be determined.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: I think you should also indicate that's a lateral move.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That also is a lateral move of one employee from one department to
another. It is not a promotion, it is a...
JUSTICE EVANS: Change of title, though.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Change of title, that would require again a 5% increase in pay. Also
this is again in continuing to reduce the personnel numbers in town government, this is an
opportunity for the Town Board to perhaps eliminate a position in one of the departments.
JUSTICE EVANS: And put a qualified individual...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And she is exceedingly qualified.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: She will be great there.
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2009-941
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Modify Budget and Transfer the Screening Plant from Solid Waste District to Highway Dept
Fiscal Impact:
To provide an appropriation in the Highway Fund for the screening plant and to effectuate transfer of
said piece of equipment from the Solid Waste District
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold has declared the screening plant owned
by the Solid Waste District as surplus equipment, and
WHEREAS the Town Board has determined that it is in the best interest of the Town to transfer
the screening plant from the Solid Waste District to the Highway Department in consideration of
the payment of $28,672, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 Highway
Fund Part Town budget as follows:
From:
DB.5110.4.100.900 Resurfacing Projects $28,672
To:
DB.5130.2.500.300 Contractor Equipment $28,672
and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Comptroller is hereby directed to transfer the sum of $28~672
from the Highway Fund Part Town to the Solid Waste District~ said amount to be a legal
charge to the Highway Fund Part Town (DB.5130.2.500.300, Contractor Equipment) and the
revenue to the Solid Waste District (SR.2650.30, Sale of Equipment).
Vote Record - Resolution RES=2009-941
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-942
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CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Consulting
Town Attorney
Retain Linda Kowalsld as Consultant/ZBA
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to retain the services of Linda Kowalski to assist the Zoning
Board of Appeals as a consultant, effective December 7, 2009, for a per/od not to exceed one
year, at a rate of $31.07 per hour, with total compensation not to exceed $10,000, subject to
review by the Town Board in 90 days, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
VOte Re.rd; Resoiuti0fi R~S-2009-942
I~ Adopted Ye~Aye No/Nay Abstain Absen~
~ Adopt~ as ~d~ William RuledVot~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Defmt~ Vinc~t ~lando Vot~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Sup~isor's Appt
~uisa P. Evans Vot~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Tax R~eiv~'s Appt
~ Rescmd~ Scott Russell Vot~ ~ ~ ~ : ~
36.
Comment regarding resolution 942
COUNCILMAN RULAND: Discussion.
period not to exceed one year?
Discussion. Do you think we could insert not for a
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Not to exceed one year. That is fine with me.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: ,Yes.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let me just point out, it seems like the Town is actually on a hiring
binge. It is quite the opposite. We had just recently developed attrition through retirement
incentives etc. this is reallocating the existing resources in town government. In this particular
case, this is someone who opted for the retirement incentive but we are bringing her back for a
short period of time to train the, her replacement. It is a very arcane subject matter, Zoning
Board of Appeals. So we still need her expertise and her guidance in helping train the new
employee.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But not indefinitely.
5UPERV!SOR RUSSELL; NPt indefinitely. Just for a short perio~ oft!~.
2009-943
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Seqra
Town Attorney
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Page 25
SEQRA LLMmendments to Minor Exempt Actions
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the proposed "A
Local Law in relation to Amendments to the Minor Exempt Actions List of the Waterfront
Consistency Review Law" is classified as an Unlisted Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and
Regulations, 6 NYCRR Section 617, and that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
establishes itself as lead agency for the uncoordinated review of this action and issues a Negative
Declaration for the action in accordance with the recommendation of Mark Terry dated
November 30, 2009, and authorizes Supervisor Scott A. Russell to sign the short form EAF in
accordance therewith, and is consistent with the LWRP pursuant to Chapter 268 of the Town
Code of the Town of Southold, Waterfront Consistency Review.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-943
~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder 1~ [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-944
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Enact Local Law
Town Clerk
Enact LL Minor Exempt Act Lists 14/CRL
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
nd
County, New York, on the 22 day of September 2009, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in
relation to Amendments to the Minor Exempt Actions List of the Waterfront Consistency
Review Law" and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid
Local Law at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, now
therefor be it
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ENACTS the proposed
Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to the Minor Exempt Actions
List of the Waterfront Consistency Review Law" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2009
A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to the Minor Exempt
Actions List of the Waterfront Consistency Review Law".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Purpose. The amendments to this local law are adopted under the authority of the
Municipal Home Rule Law and the Waterfront Revitalization of Coastal Areas and
Inland Waterways Act of the State of New York (Article 42 of the Executive Law). It
is intended that, by making additions to the "minor actions" exempt list, certain actions
that by their nature will not have an adverse effect on the coastal area and resources
will not require a review under this law, which will result in a more efficient review
process.
II. Chapter 268 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
§ 268-3. Definitions.
LANDSCAPED BUFFER - a land area of a certain length and width which is planted with
indigenous, drought tolerant, vegetation similar to that found within the immediate proximity of
the parcel. Vegetation shall be installed in sufficient densities to achieve ninety-five (95) percent
ground cover within two years of installation. Survival of planted vegetation shall be ninety (90)
percent for a period of three years. Maintenance activities within the buffer are limited to
removing vegetation which are hazardous to life and property, trimming tree limbs up to a height
of fifteen feet (15') to maintain viewsheds, replanting of vegetation and establishing a four foot
(4') wide access path constructed of pervious material for access to the water-body.
MiNOR ACTIONS - Include the following actions, which are not subject to review under this
chapter:
A. Maintenance or repair involving no substantial changes in an existing structure or
facility;
Replacement, rehabilitation or reconstruction of a structure or facility, in kind, on
the same site (in-place), including upgrading buildings to meet building or fire
codes, except for structures in areas designated by the Coastal Erosion Hazard
Area (CEHA) law where structures may not be replaced, rehabilitated or
reconstructed without a permit and shoreline erosion control structures (including,
but not limited to, groins, jetties, bulkheads, filled piers) located within Great
Peconic Bay, Cutchogue Harbor, Little Peconic Bay, Hog Neck Bay, Noyack
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H.
I.
J.
Bay, Southold Bay, Shelter Island Sound, Pipes Cove, Orient Harbor, Gardiners
Bay, Long Island Sound, Fishers Island Sound and Block Island Sound ]excluding
all creeks];
Repaving or widening of existing paved highways not involving the addition of
new travel lanes;
Street openings and right-of-way openings for the purpose of repair or
maintenance of existing utility facilities;
Maintenance of existing landscaping or natural growth, that is not located within
100 feet of the boundary of a protective natural feature .....v ...................,~r
....... o ..... r ....... v ......................... , or within s cant coastal
fish and wildlife habitat areas;
Granting of individual setback, lot line and lot area variances, except in relation to
a regulated natural feature or a bulkhead or other shoreline defense structure or
any activity within the CEHA;
Minor temporary uses of land having negligible or no permanent impact on
coastal resources or the environment;
Installation of traffic control devices on existing streets, roads and highways;
Mapping of existing roads, streets, highways, natural resources, land uses and
ownership patterns;
Information collection including basic data collection and research, water quality
and pollution studies, traffic counts, engineering studies, surveys, subsurface
investigations and soils studies that do not commit the agency to undertake, fund
or approve any action;
Official acts of a ministerial nature involving no exercise of discretion, including
building where issuance is predicated solely on the applicant's compliance or
noncompliance with the relevant local building code;
Routine or continuing agency administration and management, not including new
programs or major reordering of priorities that may affect the environment;
Conducting concurrent environmental, engineering, economic, feasibility and
other studies and preliminary planning and budgetary processes necessary to the
formulation of a proposal for action, provided those activities do not commit the
agency to commence, engage in or approve such action;
Collective bargaining activities;
Investments by or on behalf of agencies or pension or retirement systems, or
refinancing existing debt;
Inspections and licensing activities relating to the qualifications of individuals or
businesses to engage in their business or profession;
Purchase or sale of furnishings, equipment or supplies, including surplus
government property, other than the following: land, radioactive material,
pesticides, herbicides, storage of road de-icing substances, or other hazardous
materials;
Adoption of regulations, policies, procedures and local legislative decisions in
connection with any action on this list;
Engaging in review of any part of an application to determine compliance with
technical requirements, provided that no such determination entitles or permits the
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project sponsor to commence the action unless and until all requirements of this
chapter have been fulfilled;
T. Civil or criminal enforcement proceedings, whether administrative or judicial,
including a particular course of action specifically required to be undertaken
pursuant to a judgment or order, or the exercise of prosecutorial discretion;
U. Adoption of a moratorium on land development or construction;
V. Interpreting an existing code, rule or regulation;
W. Designation of local landmarks or their inclusion within historic districts;
X. Emergency actions that are immediately necessary on a limited and temporary
basis for the protection or preservation of life, health, property or natural
resources, provided that such actions are directly related to the emergency and are
performed to cause the least change or disturbance, practicable under the
circumstances, to coastal resources or the environment. Any decision to fund,
approve or directly undertake other activities after the emergency has expired is
fully subject to the review procedures of this chapter;
Y. Local legislative decisions such as rezoning where the Town Board determines
the action will not be approved;
Z. Split rail fences or fences used to control nuisance wildlife that do not interfe~ng
with the public's rights of passage along the foreshore;
AA. Removal of a structure greater than 75 feet from a wetland;
BB. Additions to fi~4itad~ng4~ff an existing dwelling constituting less than 25
percent of the existing structure where the addition is greater than 75 feet from a
natural protective feature, except where the parcel is located in a Coastal Erosion
Hazard Area;
CC. Structures less than 100 250 square feet in size that are accessory to existing
permitted primary structures, and which accessory structures are greater than 50
feet from a boundary of a natural protective feature, and freshwater or tidal
wetlands ~;
DD. Construction or improvements of pervious residential driveways, parking areas or
walkways greater than 50 feet from a tidal or freshwater wetland;
EE. Upgrades to existing fuel tanks provided that erosion control measures are
implemented;
FF. Cutting phragmites to greater than 12 inches and vegetative restoration provided
that native wetland vegetative species are not affected or disturbed in any manner;
GG. ~ Within all Town Creeks, replacement of existing bulkhead on
the applicant's property in the same location with a siltcurtmn' ~---v.,-J~---~ .... ~-.'~
deployed prior to and during construction; and
HH. Lot line changes, provided that the lot line change will not permit new
development that may have undue adverse impacts on wetlands, tidal waters or
natural protective features;
II. Additions to an existing building or rebuilt residential structure which results in
no-net increase in ground area coverage, except where the parcel is located in a
Coastal Erosion Hazard Area;
JJ. Construction or installation of drainage improvements for the retention of storm
water runoff in accordance with Chapter 236, provided that such improvements
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are located more than 50 feet from the boundary of the natural protective feature;
and
Residential structures not located within the CEHA/or adiacent to a New York
State Designated Scenic Byway, a scenic view shed important to the community
or within a VE/AE Flood Zone Designation and which complies with the
following minimum buffer width tables:
Table 1. Wetland Buffer Table for New Residential Structures located
adjacent to New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation Priority Water Body (select one).
Minimum Buffer Width
Lot Area (sq. ft.) Landscaped Natural Vegetated
0-20,000 30 25
20,000-40,000 40 35
40,000-60,000 75 50
60,000-80,000 75 50
Gre~erthan80,000 100 75
Table 2. Wetland Buffer Table for New Residential Structures (select one)
Minimum Buffer Width
100 100 75
Lot Area(sq. ft.) Non-turf Landscaped Natural Veg~ed
0-20,000 30 20 20
20,000-40,000 40 35 25
40,000-60,000 50 45 35
60,000-80,000 75 65 55
Gre~erthan80,000
Table 3.
Wetland Buffer Table for Existing or Rebuilt Residential
Structures (select one).
Minimum Buffer Width
Lot Area(sq. ft.) Non-turf Landscaped Natural Vegetmed
0-20,000 25 15 15
20,000-40,000 30 25 25
40,000-60,000 40 35 30
60,000-80,000 60 55 45
Gre~erthan80,000 75 60 55
NATURAL PROTECTIVE FEATURE - A nearshore area, beach, bluff, primary dune,
secondary dune or wetland and their vegetation.
NATURAL VEGETATED BUFFER - a land area of a certain length and width where existing
vegetation occurs prior to the commencement of any grading or clearing activity. Vegetation
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shall be maintained to achieve a minimum percent ground cover of ninety-five (95%) percent.
To achieve the percent ground cover indigenous, drought tolerant vegetation shall be planted
Survival of planted vegetation shall be ninety (90%) percent for a period of three (3) years.
Maintenance activities within the buffer are limited to removing vegetation which are hazardous
to life and property, trimming tree limbs up to a height of fifteen feet (15') to maintain
viewsheds, replanting of vegetation and establishing a four foot (4') wide access path constructed
of pervious material for access to the water-body.
NEW YORK SCENIC BYWAY (North Fork Trail) - all that portion of the State highway
system known as State Route 25 in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, be.m.'nning at the
boundary between the Town of Riverhead and the Town of Southold, continuing northeasterly to
Orient Point and to the end of State Route 25, and all that portion of the local highway system
known as Sound Avenue beginning at the boundary between the Town of Riverhead and the
Town of Southold continuing easterly to the overlap of Sound Avenue and County Route 48 and
continuing along County Route 48 generally northeasterly to the intersection of County Route 48
and State Route 25 north of the Village of Greenport, Suffolk County.
NUISANCE WILDLIFE - Wildlife that is destructive and capable of damaging property such as
buildings, crops, pets, livestock, gardens, or public areas. Wildlife may threaten human health or
safety by spreading diseases, through direct attacks, or accidentally.
PERVIOUS NONTURF BUFFER - a land area of a certain height and width comprised of sand,
stone or permeable pavers arranged in such a manner to allow for maximum percolation of storm
water runoff into the soil.
PRIORITY WATER-BODY - a water-body within the iurisdictional boundaries of the Town of
Southold listed by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation on the
Water-Body Inventory/Priority Water-Bodies List, as amended.
SIGNIFICANT FISH AND WILDLIFE HABITAT - those habitats which are essential to the
survival of a large portion of a particular fish or wildlife population; support rare or endangered
species; are found at a very low frequency within a geographic area; support fish or wildlife
populations having significant commercial or recreational value; or that would he difficult or
impossible to replace.
IlL SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
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[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Oefeated William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
~ Tabled vih~en~ ~i~d~ g~hder ~ ~ [] 13
[] Withdrawn Ailoert Kmp~i ~: ~t~ : ~ [:2 ~ []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scoi~ Russell Voter [~ [] [] VI
Next: Dec 15, 2009 4:30 PM
VI. Public Hearings
Motion To: Motion to recess to Public Hearing
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared
Recessed in order to hold a public hearing.
RESULT: ADOPTED ]UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER: Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
PH 12/1/09 7:35 Pm - Minor Exempt - WCRL
History:
12/01/09 Town Board ADJOURNED
RESULT: ADJOURNED ]UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER: Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYE S:
Next: 12/15/09
Next: 12/15/2009 4:30 PM
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
Councilman Thomas Wickham
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, there has been presented to the
Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the 22nd day of September
2009, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to the Minor Exempt
Actions List of the Waterfront Consistency Review Law" and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
Southold, New York, on the 1st day of December, 2009 at
7:35 p.m. at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
The proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to the Minor
Exempt Actions List of the Waterfront Consistency Review Law" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2009
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A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to Amendments to the Minor Exempt
Actions List of the Waterfront Consistency Review Law".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Purpose. The amendments to this local law are adopted under the authority of the
Municipal Home Rule Law and the Waterfront Revitalization of Coastal Areas and
Inland Waterways Act of the State of New York (Article 42 of the Executive Law). It
is intended that, by making additions to the "minor actions" exempt list, certain actions
that by their nature will not have an adverse effect on the coastal area and resources
will not require a review under this law, which will result in a more efficient review
process.
II. Chapter 268 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
§ 268-3. Definitions.
LANDSCAPED BUFFER - a land area of a certain length and width which is planted with
indigenous, drought tolerant, vegetation similar to that found within the immediate proximity of
the pamel. Vegetation shall be installed in sufficient densities to achieve ninety-five (95) percent
ground cover within two years of installation. Survival of planted vegetation shall be ninety (90)
percent for a period of three years. Maintenance activities within the buffer are limited to
removing vegetation which are hazardous to life and property, trimming tree limbs up to a height
of fifteen feet (15') to maintain viewsheds, replanting of vegetation and establishing a four foot
(4') wide access path constructed of pervious material for access to the water-body.
MiNOR ACTIONS - Include the following actions, which are not subject to review under this
chapter:
A. Maintenance or repair involving no substantial changes in an existing structure or
facility;
B. Replacement, rehabilitation or reconstruction of a structure or facility, in kind, on
the same site (in-place), including upgrading buildings to meet building or fire
codes, except for structures in areas designated by the Coastal Erosion Hazard
Area (CEHA) law where structures may not be replaced, rehabilitated or
reconstructed without a permit and shoreline erosion control structures (including,
but not limited to, groins, jetties, bulkheads, filled piers) located within Great
Peconic Bay, Cutchogue Harbor, Little Peconic Bay, Hog Neck Bay, Noyack
Bay, Southold Bay, Shelter Island Sound, Pipes Cove, Orient Harbor, Gardiners
Bay, Long Island Sound, Fishers Island Sound and Block Island Sound [excluding
all creeks];
C. Repaving or widening of existing paved highways not involving the addition of
new travel lanes;
D. Street openings and right-of-way openings for the purpose of repair or
maintenance of existing utility facilities;
E. Maintenance of existing landscaping or natural growth, that is not located within
100 feet of the boundary of a protective natural feature except w~ere t~eatened er
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H.
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fish and wildlife habitat areas;
Granting of individual setback, lot line and lot area variances, except in relation to
a regulated natural feature or a bulkhead or other shoreline defense structure or
any activity within the CEHA;
Minor temporary uses of land having negligible or no permanent impact on
coastal resources or the environment;
Installation of traffic control devices on existing streets, roads and highways;
Mapping of existing roads, streets, highways, natural resources, land uses and
ownership patterns;
Information collection including basic data collection and research, water quality
and pollution studies, traffic counts, engineering studies, surveys, subsurface
investigations and soils studies that do not commit the agency to undertake, fund
or approve any action;
Official acts of a ministerial nature involving no exercise of discretion, including
building where issuance is predicated solely on the applicant's compliance or
noncompliance with the relevant local building code;
Routine or continuing agency administration and management, not including new
programs or major reordering of priorities that may affect the environment;
Conducting concurrent environmental, engineering, economic, feasibility and
other studies and preliminary planning and budgetary processes necessary to the
formulation of a proposal for action, provided those activities do not commit the
agency to commence, engage in or approve such action;
Collective bargaining activities;
Investments by or on behalf of agencies or pension or retirement systems, or
refinancing existing debt;
Inspections and licensing activities relating to the qualifications of individuals or
businesses to engage in their business or profession;
Purchase or sale of furnishings, equipment or supplies, including surplus
govemment property, other than the following: land, radioactive material,
pesticides, herbicides, storage of road de-icing substances, or other hazardous
materials;
Adoption of regulations, policies, procedures and local legislative decisions in
connection with any action on this list;
Engaging in review of any part of an application to determine compliance with
technical requirements, provided that no such determination entitles or permits the
project sponsor to commence the action unless and until all requirements of this
chapter have been fulfilled;
Civil or criminal enforcement proceedings, whether administrative or judicial,
including a particular course of action specifically required to be undertaken
pursuant to a judgment or order, or the exercise of prosecutorial discretion;
Adoption of a moratorium on land development or construction;
Interpreting an existing code, rule or regulation;
Designation of local landmarks or their inclusion within historic districts;
Emergency actions that are immediately necessary on a limited and temporary
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basis for the protection or preservation of life, health, property or natural
resources, provided that such actions are directly related to the emergency and are
performed to cause the least change or disturbance, practicable under the
circumstances, to coastal resources or the environment. Any decision to fund,
approve or directly undertake other activities after the emergency has expired is
fully subject to the review procedures of this chapter;
Y. Local legislative decisions such as rezoning where the Town Board determines
the action will not be approved;
Z. Split rail fences or fences used to control nuisance wildlife that do not interferivvg
with the public's rights of passage along the foreshore;
AA. Removal of a structure greater than 75 feet from a wetland;
BB. Additions to ''an existing dwelling constituting less than 25
percent of the existing structure where the addition is greater than 75 feet from a
natural protective feature, except where the parcel is located in a Coastal Erosion
Hazard Area;
CC. Structures less than 100 250 square feet in size that are accessory to existing
permitted primary structures, and which accessory structures are greater than 50
feet from a boundary of a natural protective feature, and freshwater or tidal
wetlands ~;
DD. Construction or improvements of pervious residential driveways, parking areas or
walkways greater than 50 feet from a tidal or freshwater wetland;
EE. Upgrades to existing fuel tanks provided that erosion control measures are
implemented;
FF. Cutting phragmites to greater than 12 inches and vegetative restoration provided
that native wetland vegetative species are not affected or disturbed in any manner;
GG. t~g~q~pJa~e Within all Town Creeks, replacement of existing bulkhead on
the applicant's property in the same location with a siltcurtmn'
deployed prior to and during construction;
HH. Lot line changes, provided that the lot line change will not permit new
development that may have undue adverse impacts on wetlands, tidal waters or
natural protective features;
II. Additions to an existing building or rebuilt residential structure which results in
no-net increase in ground area coverage, except where the parcel is located in a
Coastal Erosion Hazard Area;
JJ. Construction or installation of drainage improvements for the retention of storm
water runoff in accordance with Chapter 236, provided that such improvements
are located more than 50 feet from the boundary of the natural protective feature;
and
KK. Residential structures not located within the CEHA/or adjacent to a New York
State Designated Scenic Byway, a scenic view shed important to the community
or within a VE/AE Flood Zone Designation and which complies with the
following minimum buffer width tables:
Table 1. Wetland Buffer Table for New Residential Structures located
adjacent to New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation Priority Water Body (select one).
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Lot Area (sq. fi.)
0-20,000
20,000-40,000
40,000-60,000
60,000-80,000
Greater than 80,000
Minimum Buffer Width
Landscaped Natural Vegetated
30 25
40 35
75 50
75 50
100 75
Table 2. Wetland Buffer Table for New Residential Structures (select one)
Minimum Buffer Width
Lot Area (sq. fi.) Non-turf Landscaped Natural Vegetated
0-20,000 30 20 20
20,000-40,000 40 35 25
40,000-60,000 50 45 35
60,000-80,000 75 65 55
Greater than 80,000 100 100 75
Table 3.
Wetland Buffer Table for Existing or Rebuilt Residential
Structures (select one).
Minimum Buffer Width
Lot Area(sq. fi.) Non-turf Landscaped Natural Vegetated
0-20,000 25 15 15
20,000-40,000 30 25 25
40,000-60,000 40 35 30
60,000-80,000 60 55 45
Gremerthan80,000 75 60 55
NATURAL PROTECTIVE FEATURE- A nearshore area, beach, bluff, primarydune,
secondary dune or w~landandtheir vegetmion.
NATURAL VEGETATED BUFFER - a land area of a certain length and width where existing
vegetation occurs prior to the commencement of any grading or clearing activity. Vegetation
shall be maintained to achieve a minimum percent ground cover of ninety-five (95%) percent.
To achieve the percent ground cover indigenous, drought tolerant vegetation shall be planted.
Survival of planted vegetation shall be ninety (90%) percent for a period of three (3) years.
Maintenance activities within the buffer are limited to removing vegetation which are hazardous
to life and property, trimming tree limbs up to a height of fifteen feet (15') to maintain
viewsheds, replanting of vegetation and establishing a four foot (4') wide access path constructed
of pervious material for access to the water-body.
NEW YORK SCENIC BYWAY (North Fork Trail) - all that portion of the State highway
system known as State Route 25 in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, beginning at the
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boundary between the Town of Riverhead and the Town of Southold, continuing northeasterly to
Orient Point and to the end of State Route 25, and all that portion of the local highway system
known as Sound Avenue beginning at the boundary between the Town of Riverhead and the
Town of Southold continuing easterly to the overlap of Sound Avenue and County Route 48 and
continuing along County Route 48 generally northeasterly to the intersection of County Route 48
and State Route 25 north of the Village of Greenport, Suffolk County.
NUISANCE WILDLIFE - Wildlife that is destructive and capable of damaging property such as
buildings, crops, pets, livestock, gardens, or public areas. Wildlife may threaten human health or
safety by spreading diseases, through direct attacks, or accidentally.
PERVIOUS NONTURF BUFFER - a land area of a certain height and width comprised of sand,
stone or permeable pavers arranged in such a manner to allow for maximum percolation of storm
water runoff into the soil.
PRIORITY WATER-BODY - a water-body within the jurisdictional boundaries of the Town of
Southold listed by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation on the
Water-Body Inventory/Priority Water-Bodies List, as amended.
SIGNIFICANT FISH AND WILDLIFE HABITAT - those habitats which are essential to the
survival of a large portion of a particular fish or wildlife population; support rare or endangered
species; are found at a very low frequency within a geographic area; support fish or wildlife
populations having significant commercial or recreational value; or that would be difficult or
impossible to replace.
III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
We are proposing to put these in the law to avoid having to go through the lengthy LWRP
process for these particular items. I have in the file a notice that this has appeared in the Suffolk
Times as a legal, sworn on the 23ra of November. It has appeared on the Town Clerk's bulletin
board despite the fact that we don't see the bulletin board out there. I have a note here from
Mark Terry, the LWRP coordinator and also principal planner here. 'The Board of Trustees
reviewed the amendments to the minor exempt actions list of the LWRP and would like to
comment on these proposed amendments.' Excuse me, I beg your pardon. This is from the
Southold Town Board of Trustees. It is addressed to Mark Terry. 'The Board suggests that in
relation to properties that are in our jurisdiction (that means the Trustee's jurisdiction) the current
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proposed buffer tables would eliminate any yard areas and in most cases would be impossible to
meet the criteria. Therefore this would be putting all applications before LWRP and making the
process even more complicated and more time consuming for both applicants and staff. The
majority of the Board recommends that these tables be used as a best management practice tool,
not as tables in regard to LWRP minor exemptions. Currently the Board of Trustees reviews
each application as it comes in and the decision of the size of the buffer is determined by many
factors, for example, neighboring buffers, topographical aspects, distance between existing
buildings and the end of the wetlands. We find this method to be successful. With regard to
fences used to control nuisance wildlife, we suggest that this is not put in place until the Town
Board comes up with specifications on such fences.' What I think the Trustees are saying here,
with regard to fences, we suggest this not be part of this law that we are enacting until we come
up with specifications on such fences. Is that what the memo says?
Trustee Jill Doherty
JILL DOHERTY: We are just, we don't know if that is the right time to put that in here now
where everybody still is kind of confused on the nuisance fences that are popping up. Right now
you have to go to the Building Department, Zoning Board and Trustees and LWRP but nobody
really has an answer of you know, it is not allowed, these 8 foot high fences and until we come
up with the, you know, unified specifications for these we should not be starting to stick them in
our code. We should figure it out first and then have a unified in every department, have the
same things. Specifications. That is all we are saying.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Okay but this law, as I understand it, proposes to put certain
factors into the LWRP and define them as a minor action so that it doesn't go through the whole
review process.
MS. DOHERTY: Right.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Fences are one of those things that are now being proposed. Do
the Trustees support removing it from that lengthy LWRP process? Fences? Or would you
rather leave it where it is?
MS. DOHERTY: We support removing it fi.om the LWRP process depending on what the Town
Board specifies in the future. You know, if its, if you complicate it, we are saying let's figure it
out first before we start sticking it here in the code or here in the code.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Okay. Thank you. I have a letter received by the Town on
November 30 from the county department of Planning, 'pursuant to the requirements of sections
of the Suffolk County administrative code, this application which has been submitted to the
Suftblk County Planning Commission is considered to be a matter for local determination as
there is no apparent significant countywide or inter-community aspect to it.' And a memo from
Mark Terry to the Supervisor and the Town Board on this proposed law. This is dated
November 30. 'The proposed amendments exempt so called minor actions fi.om local waterfront
revitalization program coastal consistency review that integrate the best management practices
into the design and or are insignificant in scale, practice or are located at a certain distance.
Through compliance of the identified setbacks for best managed practices, the proposed actions
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meet or further the policies and the sub policies of the LWRP and are therefore exempt from
review by the coordinator. The discretion of the Board's to review applications to the Southold
Town code remains in full effect. It is important to note that the wetland buffer tables, tables 1
and 3, proposed within the amended local law were developed to exempt residential applications
not located adjacent to New York State scenic byways, scenic view sheds important to the
community or within coastal erosion hazard areas or VEAE fold zones. Residential applications
within these areas are subject to numerous other policies and sub policies. The wetland buffer
tables, together with other amendments proposed meet and further the policy 6.3 which protect
and restore tidal and freshwater wetlands and more specifically a sub policy outlined below, and
there are several different policies, in fact there are five of them listed down below. Based on all
of the above, the local law that is under consideration tonight was reviewed against chapter 268,
the waterfront consistency review of the town and the LWRP policy standards. Based upon the
information provided on the consistency assessment form, submitted to this department, as well
as the records available to me, it is my recommendation that the proposed action consistent with
the denoted following policy standards and therefore is consistent with the LWRP.' And there
are several policies that are referred to. Finally a memo fi-om the Planning Board, Martin Sidor
chair, dated November 30th. 'The Planning Board has reviewed the above proposed legislation
and fully supports the amendments, recognizing that the changes streamline the application
process and exempt certain applications such as lot lines and activities that pose insignificant
impacts to LWRP goals and policies.' I have in front of me a short environmental assessment
form in the file and that completes the stuffin the file.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on this
particular public heating? Jill?
JUSTICE EVANS: Are you going to talk about the buffer stuff?. Because that is what I don't
understand.
JILL DOHERTY, SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEE: Yes, that is what I want to. In reviewing
these changes, the Board of Trustees agrees with most of these changes (inaudible) and we have
been working with Mark and we talked to Mark about the buffers and it is a difficult thing to
explain and so Mark has come up with a scale but we feel it is not, the way it is written up, the
way it is written up is not a practical use. In other words, for us to go through the process, it is
going to make it more difficult and it's not, I mean, I can't even explain it, so imagine trying to
explain it to our applicants on the buffers. If they meet this criteria, they don't have to go to
LWRP. Most of the properties in this town will not meet this criteria, so they will have to go to
LWRP. Most of the properties with existing buildings on it don't have the space between the
building and the wetland to have this buffer and they wouldn't meet these, so they would have to
go to LWRP. Then, what happens is Mark does his review and he would either find it
inconsistent or he would find it consistent and recommend the width of the buffer and then if we
don't agree with that width, meaning the Trustees, then we would have to come up with a way
why we find it consistent. And the reasoning of the width of the buffer we are coming up with.
And it just kind of puts us back and forth with each other and it is not helping the applicant. It is
not helping the process. We are trying to smooth out the process here and make less government
and it seems to be making more.
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COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Where did the numbers come from? Because I am reading from
the memo here from Mark Terry to Supervisor Scott Russell and it directly quotes a section of
the LWRP and there is a subsection, policy 6.3, protect and restore tidal and freshwater wetlands
subsection d, okay, and it talks about buffers, adequate buffers, alright? The adequacy of the
buffer depends on the following factors, direction and flow of surface water between use and
adjacent or nearby wetlands. Buffer widths may be reduced in areas where drainage patterns
normally do not lead directly to the wetlands where adverse effects to the wetland, other than
those due to nmoff, are not likely. So that says there you can't put a number on it. You have to
go and determine it in the field.
MS. DOHERTY: Right.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: So how can you put a number on this? Where did these numbers
come from?
MS. DOHERTY: I don't know. I would defer that question to Mark Terry but that is our point
exactly is that it just makes it too confusing. It is just too much in there and we need to make it
simpler, the wording.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: It is actually contrary to the LWRP.
MS. DOHERTY: Right. Right.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Jill, when you are finished, I would like to ask Mark if he could
explain how these buffer tables actually work.
MS. DOHERTY: Sure. If you have any other questions, you can let Mark explain.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: We can call on you again.
Marrk Terry, Planning
MARK TERRY, SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD: Good evening. The question was
where did the buffer tables come from? Over the past few months, the LWRP coordinating
council and the LWRP coordinator, myself, have researched buffer science across the country. It
is an inexact science. Basically what it says is the wider the buffer and the more dense in species
composition within the buffer makes it a more effective buffer. So in an attempt to reduce the
number of applications that come through the LWRP process, we said okay, why don't we set
the rules at the door and tell the applicants what we are looking for. So if you can meet the 25
foot buffer and it is a natural vegetative buffer which you leave up your existing vegetation or it
is a landscaped buffer, you get to bypass the LWRP process. I no don't have to spend the hours
doing it, writing the review and it goes up to the Trustees. Now these buffer tables were
proposed with a sense of reasonable distance from a water body or a top of bluff and I must say,
they are on paper but in practice as we go through them, they are certainly amendable. So if the
Board would like to put them in as bmp's over the next couple of months or half year, six
months, we can move forward in that direction and see if they will work in some properties.
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Like Jill said, they are not going to apply everywhere. They will apply where the (inaudible)
flood zone occurs, if the applicant says, okay, I will put a 25 foot natural vegetative buffer in and
I don't have to go through the review process, fine. (inaudible)
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: You suggested we could, if we wanted to, put this in as a best
management practice rather than putting it in the code the way it is drafted?
MR. TERRY: Right.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: If we did that, all applications would have to be LWRP
reviewed, isn't that right?
MR. TERRY: That is correct. What I would do though is I would have a much shorter review.
I would say, provide a buffer (inaudible) leave it up to the Trustees to start implementing
(inaudible) memorandum of agreement and then we will move on from there. I know the policy
is being furthered ....
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I see. I see.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: That is acceptable.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: It is acceptable but I would still support putting it right into the
law and exempting them entirely from review, provided they meet the table...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: See, the better way, what Mark suggested is to put it in as best
management practices and then let the Trustees and Mark who is the coordinator, review this
over a period of time and then refine it into something that is even better.
MR. TERRY: The point is to get the widest, most effective buffer up against the water bodies.
Once that is accomplished, they will still need further LWRP ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But as section 6.3 and the subsection D 5 states, other management
measures for design alternatives to protect wetlands from adverse affects where site constraints
do not allow sufficient buffer width, so I am sure the Trustees as they did before, back in the day,
take into account different strategies to control upland runoff, besides the buffer width. So if you
have got, you know, drywells and gutters in the house that run directly on to the lawn that run
directly overboard and you put in a buffer and you contain your drywell runoff, that significantly
contributes to the amount volume of runoff, then that is furthering the policies. But it might not
give you the buffer width that is required in the table and yet you don't need that because you
have reduced your runoff through other measures, so you...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just so we understand though, the buffer width in the table is not
required, it is simply required to get a pass. From the LWRP coordinator review. The Trustees
are still very much a part of this process. So all those factors and those mitigating factors and
steps that we can take, are still very much part of the application process with the Trustees. It is
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just that it is an application that doesn't have to go to Mark. And one less bureaucratic review.
No offense on the bureaucratic, you look smashing in your power yellow tie. But that is the
reality. It is an imperfect, you know, it is a science.
MR. TERRY: The key, Al, is that the chapter 275 still applies, discretion still applies. This is
taking a policy and saying, okay, if you come in, you meet the policy with this buffer, if you can
fit it within your site plan...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: If you can't, we are no different.
JUSTICE EVANS: You don't have to have the LWRP part of it but you still have to have the
Trustee part of it.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Mmmhmm.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The idea, I thought, was to reduce the volume of work that goes
through LWRP?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Yes.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But I understand, you know, if there is an interest in tabling this to
revisit the tables, that is fine with me. But I don't want to lose the other parts or the other goals
that are here which is to get some of this stuff that is really unnecessary out of LWRP review.
You know, that is really what the goal is, to just take some of the stuff out of the aegis of the
LWRP. But I don't have an aversion to tabling if we want to take another shot at those tables to
better understand them.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Refine them and work on them a little bit.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, that is fine.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I have a few other questions if we are done with the table
discussion. Dave has a comment.
Trustee Dave Bergen
DAVE BERGEN, SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEE: With regard to the table discussion, first
off, I want to commend Mark on the job he has done on this. I think he has done a great job and
commend the Town Board also for trying to achieve the goal of reducing the number of
applications or projects that have to go through LWRP review because it is making government
simpler by doing that. I think, Al, you hit the nail on the head. Much of what I was prepared to
say, you have already covered with the research you have done. I also felt that if these tables
were just listed as best management practices so that the applicant can see what our goals are and
see if their properties can meet those goals, taking into consideration all the different factors that
that property has then this is something that could be utilized, I think would be very good for the
town. But did not have these written as, as Tom said, as in a code rather best management
practices.
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COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I, I am surprised because I had always thought the Trustees were
among, in the vanguard of those that would like to make the whole LWRP process simpler and
less involved with people.
MR. BERGEN: Absolutely.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I understand the content of your comment to not go in that
direction ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, it is just in a different way and a more complete and
meaningful way. What I would recommend is deleting section KK, which I believe is the entire
reference to the tables and setbacks, but the other aspects of the LWRP adopting tonight, ton
continue the amendment of the other aspects of the LWRP. But striking KK and then we will
take up the issues of the bmp's ....
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: A lot of acronyms flying around. Bmp and KK...
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Have you given much thought how to incorporate them as best
management practices in the language of the law that we have?
MR. TERRY: Within the language ....
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I mean, we have got a law in front of us with a public hearing
tonight, we are going to ....
MR. TERRY: They were proposed as your residential structure is located adjacent to a water
body then your buffer has to be, your minimum buffer should be x amount of feet wide. That is
the way (inaudible) but incorporated as far as (inaudible) that would be difficult. There has got
to be an agreement between I guess the program and council with the Trustees. Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know what makes sense and Albert, inaudible and yourself
suggested that this can be incorporated in another way which will still make the process simpler
and easier, the bmp's. I don't have a problem with that. I suggest that we just strike that section
KK and move on with the rest.
JUSTICE EVANS: If you keep it in there, you are just exempting them from the LWRP review.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: That is right.
JUSTICE EVANS: So I don't understand why you take it out. Anything else that falls under the
LWRP review and the Trustees still have review of the whole thing. It is just one less step for
the applicant.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Peggy, do you want to comment?
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COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I don't think necessarily because if you had, let me just take a shot
at this, if you have an existing home and you rebuild it but you can't meet because of your lot
size, you don't have to meet a specific number, you have to go out in the field, the Trustees have
to go out in the field and review it. Say you redo your bulkhead during the course of it and you
put in a 15 foot non turf buffer, you have complied ....
JUSTICE EVANS: But you are still going to have to go through LWRP.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But you have complied with it by doing that. But if you put these
numbers in here, then you haven't complied with it because then you need a 30 foot buffer ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: If you take the whole table out, you still have to go through LWRP
one way or the other.
JUSTICE EVANS: Exactly. But if you leave it in, at least some people ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It might be too tiny a step but it takes a step in the fight direction if
it is schooling us from LWRP review.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Let's hear from the people who have to deal with it.
JUSTICE EVANS: Do you understand what I am trying to say?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I agree with you.
Trustee Peggy Dickerson
PEGGY DICKERSON, SOUTHOLD TOWN TRUSTEE: I just have to come up and say that
for one of the last times. I do agree some of the wording needs to be worked on, however, Al, I
think you are being very optimistic as you usually are, that after 8 years of being out in the field
and discussing buffers its sometimes difficult when someone is saying to you, I don't want this
much of my lawn to give up, I would rather have this much. And you go back this way and you
go back this way and then there are LWRP requirements and that is this wide and the applicant
wanted, so it becomes a discussion and this brings it to something more specific. I think the
other thing that has happened over the last eight years is that the more times we have had
standards to look at, that have been recommended by Mark Terry and have been based on
science, the more applicants are coming in and they l~ave already met those standards because
they are aware of them and so I think that what this does, as Mark says, is giving the applicants
an idea, as Louisa was saying, what is a buffer and what is the best buffer? The science says the
widest and it is hard to take lawns away from applicants but that is what the recommendation is
and I think this chart gives us those details that are needed. As Louisa said again and Tom, this
is just an exemption. If people come in, they have new construction, they can go to this chart
and say, okay, we are going to follow it and we are exempt.
JUSTICE EVANS: It only exempts you from the LWRP, right?
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right. It is not exactly a pass to a building permit.
MS. DICKERSON: But I think it also emphasizes the importance of buffers which I think
sometimes is misunderstood and again, over the eight years of having many a many buffer
discussion, more times than not I would like to see them wider and it doesn't always end up that
way, so I think these details are important.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I do have one question about them, I don't know if you can answer
it Peg or if Mark has to answer it, it says adjacent residential structures located adjacent to the
New York state designated scenic byway, now does that mean that, do these, I don't know what
that means. What are the requirements here?
Mark Terry, Planning
MR. TERRY: It says residential structures that are not located within the CEHA because of
other policies that deal with that...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right.
MR. TERRY: The New York state scenic byway because of other policies that deal with that
and the VEAE flood zone because of other policies that deal with that, if you come in and you
are not located in those three areas and you put in a 25 foot natural vegetated buffer on a 0 to
25,000 square foot lot, you are exempt from the LWRP and gutters and leaders and pervious
driveway, you are exempt from the LWRP and you go through the Board of Trustees and they
can, per the policies which is their charge, this is coming through as a recommendation, they can
per their policies by even manipulating the site plan further with bmp's.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But I don't, see I don't understand where this comes in with scenic
view shed important to the community. Who is determining that?
MR. TERRY: Scenic view shed important to the community, that is public parks, that, we
determine that. Like if you have a park district on the water, there may be a very large structure
going up against it, things like that. And we didn't think that it was prudent to exempt those type
of applications from the LWRP process because other policies would comment on that type of
application.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But, so I don't understand, if you live across the street from a town
or municipally owned piece of property, then someone could object to your putting on anything?
Doing anything.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am just disappointed...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I don't understand that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The LWRP did not create that scenario. Adoption of scenic byways
and other programs over the years has.
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COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: This is separate from scenic byway even. This is a scenic view
shed important to the community. I am just trying to wonder who is going to make that ....
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: That is open for interpretation.
MR. TERRY: That is open for interpretation. However, I have...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But someone has got to pull the trigger on that and say this is
important and they shouldn't go that far. Who is going to make that determination? That is what
I want to know.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is something that we need to ferret out. You know, legislation
that has been passed historically at this Board level by previous boards. I think people are
confusing the LWRP as being the new law. It is not, it is the collection of all the existing laws.
JUSTICE EVANS: Well, it is a concern of some of the Trustees that by putting this buffer as an
exemption that people that come in for permits will feel like that is giving them a bye all the way
through, then the Trustees have no say in changing what they are doing?
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: It will still go through the Trustees, they just don't get the LWRP
review.
JUSTICE EVANS: I don't understand, I am confused.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Again, we are taking steps to exempt things. This doesn't, you
know, the New York state, we have the scenic by-ways, there are policies in place that already
govern that, that we didn't dare (inaudible) but yeah, we need to get to the bottom of that. But
again, these are the things that we are trying to get, it may be baby steps but steps to get them out
from under the LWRP review. Dave?
Trustee Dave Bergen
MR. BERGEN: If I could just attempt to address Louisa's questions from my perspective.
When projects come in for review, obviously I think it is best for both the owner of the property
and the town if it is either determined to be consistent or exempt. It is when it is determined to
be inconsistent, that's when the work begins on trying to, the Board, whether it is the ZBA or
whether it is the Trustees or whoever, trying to bring it in to consistency. And when we have the
table that states here are minimum buffers, the concern that I had was, again, if these are not
looked as best management practices but as tables that we are going to go by, when applications
come in that are reviewable, in other words they wouldn't fall under here, they are reviewable,
and then this table is used saying well, these are the buffers you need, if not they are going to be
determined to be inconsistent.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: No, that is not what it says.
MR. BERGEN: I am looking towards the future.
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COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: But that is not what this law says.
MR. BERGEN: I understand that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: In fact, strike that, then it is all inconsistent anyway.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right.
MR. BERGEN: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But if we strike the section KK, then it is all inconsistent anyway
and ends up on Mark's pile.
JUSTICE EVANS: It is not saying that you have to meet these standards to be consistent, it is
just saying if you meet these standards, you are exempt.
COUNCILMAN WlCKHAM: You get a bypass.
MR. BERGEN: Yes and I understand that. I understand that. I just, when we get through the
tables, I wanted to return to one other section in here.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: If we get through the tables.
Trustee Jill Doherty
MS. DOHERTY: I just want to try to clarify what Dave is trying to say is once these tables are
set in here, they need to be more clarified before we have them set because as we work through
them and find out what works and what doesn't, it is just hard to explain. We feel it is going to
be hard to work with and to find it inconsistent and then how are we supposed to mitigate that
and try to find it because there are so many areas and properties in town that don't meet this...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Under the current code...
MS. DOHERTY: Right.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They are inconsistent now, without the exemptions.
MS. DOHERTY: Right.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They are all inconsistent, so you do the mitigation and then you do
all of that now ....
MS. DOHERTY: But we don't have, excuse me for interrupting but we don't have exact
guidelines, we go by our policies and what our review is.
COUNCILMAN WlCKHAM: And you should continue to do that. We are not changing
anything about that. The Trustees should still use exactly the same criteria that they used before
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and we am not trying to interfere with that. What we are saying is if an applicant comes in and
just fits within this table, you can deal with it but it doesn't have to go through the LWRP
process.
MS. DOHERTY: Right, I understand that but, okay, I mean, maybe we can just take out KK for
now and try to reword it to make it clear because we work with the public directly and we know
this is going to be confusing to them. It is confusing to us and it is going to be confusing to
them. So we need to work on the wording of this, to make it more clear and simpler and I think
that is what our point on this thing is. It is not so much that we are not saying we are against
buffers, we just put a 50 foot buffer on a property a couple of months ago, so it is not the buffer
and the science behind the buffer, it is the wording of this and the way we are going to use it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is really terms such as consistent, inconsistent, I know that has
been a source of confusion for people since this had been adopted by the previous Board. Would
anyone like to address the Board on any of the other aspects? Yes, Gail.
Gail Wickham, Cutchogue
GAIL WICKHAM: Good evening. Thank you. My name is Gail Wickham from Cutchogue
and I have to tell you that if I were addressing you after my first reading of this, I would
probably be screaming at you. I am not going to do that but I have to say ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: That wouldn't help at all.
MS. WICKHAM: No, I know. I know. I read this much more differently, from a different
perspective from what I am heating and I certainly understand that you want to comply with the
title of this to simplify and expand on the definition of minor exempt actions and take them out
but the LWRP is a monster of government regulation and I think that what has happened here is
in trying to define what is exempt you have set a very complicated and exhaustive list of
definitions that vastly increase the regulation that the LWRP can impose upon a private property
owner and it is not just waterfront property, it is scenic byways properties on the Main Road,
Route 48, Sound Avenue. So in trying to exempt things, that is a good thing because it gives you
something that Mark can put off his desk and not even have to have come on his desk. But then
when you say, except or unless, you are adding this whole other umbrella of regulations that
really restrict things like being able to mow your lawn and when you put a number on the table
and say if you have a two acre piece of property, 100 foot buffer is the standard for LWRP
consistency. This is going to mean something to somebody in a regulation and now I am going
to have to fight you to say it should be less than 100 feet. So you are imposing a standard that I
think is not necessarily matched in science or what the environmental protection might be
depending on the slope to the bay, there are a number of other examples here, for instance, as I
see it, this whole protective natural feature definition. You are setting up setbacks from a whole
other category of demarcation that I don't quite understand. You're apparently, we are losing the
right to replace a bulkhead on the bay because you said it is only within town creeks that you can
replace the bulkheads without going to LWRP, so and what is interesting about this KK, another
thing, that scenic view shed is really scary to me, I don't know what that is. But that should
be ....
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COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: It doesn't say what it means.
MS. WICKHAM: It doesn't and just because I happen to have a piece of propex~y I want to put
an addition on on the Main Road that people like to look at, is somebody going to tell me I can't
do it because it is going to interrupts the view of somebody passing by. I don't think so, it is not
legal to do that. The public doesn't have an easement view.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think people badly misunderstand this law and the existing law that
is out there. Incidentally, the current setback for all waterfront properties is 100 feet. Everything
is 100 feet. The Trustees have the right to vary that.
MS. WICKHAM: They regulate what that means. They have a right to look at it and decide.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And they still would when we pass this. The idea is this is only one,
and I agree with you on the LWRP, it is a bureaucratic quagmire, it is awful. But the idea was to
remove some of the LWRP review from some of the applications. We don't create anything new
here. The scenic byways was passed in, I believe the mid 80's.
MS. WICKHAM: I get that. I think that is a laudable goal, I just think that it went overboard in
trying to define it but, because you do have all kinds of other regulations in this area. You have
the town Trustees and some extent the Planning and ZBA, you have the...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It doesn't create new regulation, the scenic byways was created long
before the LWRP was.
MS. WICKHAM: I understand that but it is another gamut of regulation that is just out of
control.
JUSTICE EVANS: That exist.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, that exist.
MS. WICKHAM: I know it exists. I know it exists. That is the problem. Maybe we ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is a problem, it certainly is. But this didn't create it, it doesn't
advance it.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: In fact, this is...
MS. WICKHAM: I know it is an attempt to reduce it ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But you see, what you said about the scenic byway, if you read
KK, 'residential structures not located within a scenic view shed important to the community' is
you know, that would be exempt. Well, you are never going to have anything built anywhere in
this town, if someone, the neighbor is not going to say that is an important view shed to me and
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so now it is not exempt. So in other words, nothing is exempt.
MS. WICKHAM: Well, anyways, those are my preliminary comments.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And so we can not pass the law and nothing is exempt and we are
back to square one.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I think we should table it for two weeks and try to work KK out
better so that it doesn't, because, and the way it is, and you can disagree with me Mark but
doesn't that mean nothing would be exempt then? Because the neighbor is going to say that is a
scenic view shed that is important to me.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You have to remember ....
MarkTerry, Planning
MR. TERRY: The intent and the direction from the Town Board was ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The reference to the scenic view shed which I understand all the
concerns about, but those concerns needed to be raised when this thing was passed 20 years ago.
That would be, generally two jurisdictions review scenic view sheds. The Planning Board as
part of the subdivision process or the Zoning Board of Appeals as the result of an application.
The Building Department does not review the scenic view shed. They are not encumbered by
that law. Therefore, a private property owner that wants to build a house can still come in to the
Building Department and get the building permit. All this does would be saying, look, if there is
an issue here for the Planning Board or the Zoning Board of Appeals, the scenic view shed, we
are not excluding that, we still want Mark to look at it. Well, maybe we don't, we can exclude it
entirely but you are still stuck with that law. This doesn't create the law, it doesn't advance the
law. I think there is so much misunderstanding and that is the problem when they passed this
LWRP, they passed this at the 11th hour of a previous administration without any explanation to
the public at all. And tonight is just another example of how this whole thing was badly
misplayed.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Alright, but doesn't that, you know what I am saying if it is our
intent to exempt something, this doesn't exempt any residential structures. The way it is written.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But the Building Department doesn't review them on the scenic
view shed ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: No, it is not the Building Department, it would be the LWRP.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No but who sends it? There has to be an agent who sends it to
Mark.
MR. TERRY: The Trustees, Planning.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: The Trustees...
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Or the Zoning Board of Appeals.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: So I think, I have a few other items in here that are little items that
I think should be changed but I would rather table this and try to meet and try to make this, the
KK section, work a little smoother so it works for the applicant and it works for the Town.
Because I don't think it works for anyone right now. But I do have a few other small...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think there is probably a consensus here to table this but I really
want to hear what the public has to say. Would anybody else like to comment on section KK of
the LWRP, ASAP? (No response)
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I have a couple of other comments.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just want to make sure the public gets heard before we...
COUNCILMANKRUPSKI: Section268-3 under minor actions E. The maintenance of existing
landscaping or natural growth. The new change is if it is not located within 100 feet of the
boundary of a protective natural feature, it should say natural protective feature I think anyway
but I think that means you couldn't maintain your existing landscaping or natural growth. I think
everyone is inconsistent there. I think you really have to strike out within 100 feet and just put
that it is not located within a natural protective feature. Or am I reading that wrong?
JUSTICE EVANS: You are saying you are exempt if it is not within that 100 foot boundary?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: What Albert is saying is, delete the 100 feet. Just say if it is not
within the protective feature itself.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Why do you need that 100 foot?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right. If it is existing landscaping, you should be able to maintain
it without LWRP review.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, I agree. I just don't know where that would be an issue.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Well, it is new. That is a new change. That's, it shouldn't, yeah.
Trustee Dave Bergen
MR. BERGEN: Just to complicate that further, under 275 and I am sorry I don't have a copy of
275 in front of me, routine maintenance in the existing landscape and natural growth is exempt
from even an application for a permit.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Yeah.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: So there is no need to raise objection to the reference.
MR. BERGEN: There is no need for review because there is no need for a permit.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right. So could we strike part of that?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Unless it is within the protective feature.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Yeah, right, unless it is within that protective feature then you
want to review it. But this is within 100 feet of it. Which shouldn't be reviewed.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Mark, can you comment on this?
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: I don't think he wants to.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Unless I am reading it wrong. To me it seems like you are going
to need review. It is not going to be a minor action if it is within 100 feet of a natural protective
feature.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is just important to remember that these exemptions do not add
any new layers of review to the ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: No, this is a new, it is a change though.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But it is still, there are no means for review because you don't have
to come in...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But it shouldn't be changed then.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I think we are going to have to table it.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Okay and there is one more, well, there are a few more things here.
Just, this is a nitpicking one, FF, cut phragmites to greater than 12 inches and vegetative
restoration. The changes provided that native wetland vegetation species are not affected or
disturbed in any manner, well, they will benefit from it. So they will be affected. So maybe you
say just not, that native wetland vegetative species are not adversely affected or disturbed in any
manner, alright? And then HH, no forget that, no, JJ. This one doesn't make sense.
Construction or installation of drainage improvements, for the retention of stormwater runoff in
accordance with chapter 236 provided that such improvements are located more than 50 feet
from the boundary of a natural protective feature. See, most stormwater improvements are going
to be closer than that because by their nature, they can be located right adjacent to the natural
protective feature. And since they are stormwater improvements, they shouldn't really have to
be reviewed.
JUSTICE EVANS: Well, but they are now anyway.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They are reviewed now. what this does is it makes them
unreview ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: No, no, no, strike out the 50 feet.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They are all reviewed by Mark...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: No, no, no, no. No. if you leave the rest in, if you just put
construction or installation of drainage improvements for the retention of stormwater runoff in
accordance with chapter 236, that is it. So these would be exempt because you are putting in a
stormwater improvement. Take out the 50 feet because the, you are making it more difficult
already. You shouldn't have to review it because it is close to a natural protective feature, that is
maybe where you have to put the stormwater ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Under current code, .am I required, if I want to install stormwater
mitigation 30, 40 feet away from a wetland boundary, do I need to come to the Trustees?
UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Alright.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: We did it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Do I need to come to Mark?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Now you do.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Within the first 100 feet, right?
UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: So what we are saying is, we are cutting it in half. If you want to do
it, if you want to do it 51 feet out, you don't need to go to Mark.
JUSTICE EVANS: I know but...
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Yeah but where is the guide? You (inaudible) like water wash,
you have to go at the top of the ramp. So that is where it has to go. You couldn't move it back
to 51 feet.
JUSTICE EVANS: A1 is saying don't go to Mark at all if it has to do with water runoff.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just go to the Trustees.
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COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, Mark does that seem reasonable? It does to me if the
Trustees are already reviewing it but I think you are going to be giving people this
misunderstanding that somehow you can do it without review now, if we strike the ....
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: No, no.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Fifty feet doesn't ....
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I think this is just going to require another meeting.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are going to require a heck of a lot of clarification.
MR. TERRY: Scott, it is reasonable but chapter 236, I cross referenced all the chapters for
consistency with the town code with these applications, so in my detailed review, I do pick up
things and point them out to the Trustees for their benefit, as well as the Town's benefit and the
applicants benefit. So they don't get violations down the road. So that is saying within chapter
236, provided such improvements are located 50 feet from the boundary of a natural protective
feature, I think it is qualified in chapter 236 as somewhere, as 50 feet distance but I could double
check that. And back to the outside the 100 foot or within the 100 foot, we have coastal systems,
we have a very large coastal plain, some people clear within that coastal plain and then submit
maintenance and mitigation plans that they want to do different things with their property. That
is where we would catch that, in relation to those areas outside of Trustees jurisdictions, when
we review certain applications.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Alright, one more...
MR. TERRY: Inaudible, the Planning Board and the Zoning Board of Appeals.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: One more thing. Pervious non-turf buffer, a land area of a certain
height and width comprised of sand, stone or permeable pavers, range in such a manner to allow
for maximum percolation of stormwater runoff into the soil. Can we add decking to that?
Because some people put in you know, like landward of a bulkhead, people put in decking and
that acts as a you know, a non-turf buffer.
MR. TERRY: Inaudible. I guess we are going to code committee with this?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Evidently. But I think people need to understand that a lot of these
laws have been around for a long time and when the LWRP reveals them for the first time,
people said oh, the LWRP created that law. It is not really how it worked and then again, the
failing of how it was set up.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Scott, instead of code committee, what about the LWRP council
as the venue to review this?
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Because I think at this point they have done their work, they are
certainly welcome to come to the code committee but it has to be a document that we are ready
to pass as a Board. Jill?
Trustee Jill Doherty
MS. DOHERTY: Just a comment on the decking. We have been allowing that, as you know but
we have the spacing of the decking (inaudible)
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Sure.
MS. DOHERTY: We can put that in so it is consistent with Trustee policy.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Sure. Yeah.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just want to make sure that everybody has been heard on the
LWRP. Okay. Oh, Dave.
Trustee Dave Bergen
MR. BERGEN: Just one last item under Z, split rail fences or fences to control nuisance
wildlife, just to clarify when this, if this goes to the code committee if the code committee will
please consider current code because under chapter 275 currently you are not allowed to put
nuisance fencing down to the foreshore and I would like to see that amended because of what is
happening with deer over-running our population here, I would like to see the code committee
address that part of the code. So that nuisance fencing is, in other words ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Then we should leave it in there because any change in the
legislation would automatically exempt...
MR. BERGEN: What we have kind of done is cart before the horse here. You know, we have
the code that says you are not allowed to have nuisance fencing down to the foreshore yet you
are saying that is exempt under the LWRP for review but right now it is not allowed under code.
So what I am saying is adjust the code.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah but there are also other aspects where nuisance fencing should
be exempt. You are allowed to exceed 6 feet if you go to the Zoning Board of Appeals, things
like, in other words, there is already venues for those. That would remove, the ZBA needs to
send it to Mark etc.
MR. BERGEN: I am just talking about 275. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Any motions?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: We might want to table it because the changes that come out, we
are going to get a lecture from Martin as to whether or not we can, we need to re-advertise or not.
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Town Attorney Martin Finnegan
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: I think we should adjourn it. Inaudible. We noticed it 60
days ago because, depending on the changes, we may have to resubmit this whole thing for
review by the state.
Couuncilman Krupski
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But you might not.
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Don't forget we still have to run to Bill Sharp and get permission.
Councilman Krupski
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI:
might not be substantial.
But you might not have to re-advertise.
The changes you make
Closing Statements
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What I would like to do now is, you have been very patient. Thank
yon.
Peter Bell, Cutchogue
PETE BELL: Pete Bell, Cutchogue. I have seen a couple of close calls on traffic situation near
the farm stands and it involves people crossing. Parking their cars on the other side and they are
walking across to the farm stand, so I just happened to be in Amagansett and this is what I saw
over there. Inaudible.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Thank you.
MR. BELL: I was in Amagansett (inaudible) put the signs west if you are mining east, put them
west of the market, if you are going west you put them east, so that the cars that are coming
down will have an indication that they can't pass on the right and therefore they won't come in
contact with people that are crossing. That is all I want to say.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I want to thank you for that. The first thing I am going to do is send
it to the Transportation Commission, the local Transportation Commission and the second thing I
will do is distribute it to the county Department of Public Works because of the county road and
the New York state DOT because of the state road and make those requests. And you know, this
is the law right now, no passing on the right unless someone is making a turn but we need to
reemphasize that even when someone is making a mm you can't pass on the right because there
is just no shoulder there and you are right, I see the close calls all the time particularly in the
busy season. Thank you very much.
MR. BELL: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you very much. Benja.
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Benja Schwartz, Cutchogue
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Good evening, folks. I am going to make this very short tonight, I could
stay here all night but to make a long story short, my name is Benja Schwartz. And on the way
here, I pulled up the town's website. Well, those web designers, they are very tricky. They have
a little thing on the website that tells you what day it is. So I was interested to learn that we are
now in the year of 109 according to the Southold Town website. November 1, 109. So that, you
know, it is not fimny. And the whole subject you know, the website having someone doing the
website who knows what they are doing, when are we going to stop joking around and get real?
Councilman Wickham
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: It is important.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Can I get a motion to adjourn?
Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned at 8:47
P.M.
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
SECONDER: Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell