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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1000-59.-10-6SUBMISSION WITHOUT COVER LETTER SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD 25 APRIL 27, 1992 Mr. Strang: Again, it is just a minimal situation and I think you will notice that to be the case in any of the service stations in the area that have convenience stores that every once in a while someone will pull in and make u~e of it. Most of the time it is people who are getting gasoline and in this case, we are all aware it is going be a little bit of a inconvenience for them to have to go around to the back of the building since there will be no door facing the gasoline side. Mr. McDonald: Can we take it over to our work session? Mr. Orlowski: We will review this. Mr. Strang: I just wanted to present it to the Board and see what their initial input was and answer any questions that you may have at this time. Mr. Orlowski: He does realize that he can't access it from the West side. Mr. Strang: He realizes that, he is happy with it but he realizes that that is the condition of his variance and he willing to accept it. is Mr. Orlowski: I know there is a door going into the office which then goes into this building but that would have to be closed off. Mr. Strang: It is closed presently and will continue to remain as such. He is aware of the conditions, it is quite explicit from the ZBA and he was aware of that condition. Mr. Orl0wski: O.K., we will get back to you. Anyone else? Mr. Mudd, I know you are here tonight with a question. Mr. Mudd: I would just like to chat a minute about a piece of property I own up here on Route 48 and try to explain this twenty-nine acres and I would just like to get the feeling of the Board before I proceed and get my shoe laces tied too tight down the road. The lots up and down that road are all one-half acre and on the south and also on the east of that road all one hundred by two hundred and I would like to get the feeling of the Board to see how we could proceed and make the rest of those lots up there on 48 to half acre lots and by dedicating the other acre and a half as open farm space and it will remain that way as part of a commitment to keep the area in farmland preservation up there with it. At the present time, there is a water main that comes down to the last lot from the south. A one inch water main and I discussed it with the water company and they were interested in running a main from the Main Road over to Route 48 so they kind of are very interested in doing it but it was going to take more money than I am prepared to SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD 26 APRIL 27, 1992 propose unless I have some assurance that I could get a return back with the lots that we are proposing. If it wasn't going to be feasible at all, why we would just scrap the deal and put the whole place up for sale and sell it as just one unit and let who ever buys it go through that process. I would like to submit two proposals here for you to take a look at and get your feelings back later as to whether this is a practical solution or whether it is too far fetched. Mr. Orlowski: You want to bring those up here and show the Board? Mr. McDonald: Have you been to the Health Department? How close is the nearest main? Do you know where that is? Mr. Mudd: The nearest main is over here on 48 which is a new one and there is a new well. Mr. McDonald: So your property, or parts of your property abuts the main that exists. Mr. Mudd: The main that comes across 48 has been put in there some time ago and it goes from our place there where we have our farm opposite Steve Doroski's and they just put up a new well in directly opposite that house on the corner of Tuckers Lane and 48. They are trying to tie in the water from the Main Road up to 48 but at the present time they don't have a tie in up there. Mr. McDonald: The only reason I ask is because I wonder if when you get to the Health Department when they see that there is a main along your property and they may require you. Their policy is that where there is public water, they make people extend lines and hook in so what ever plans you have you may find yourself there with them telling you whether you like it or not, you have to use public water which could throw all the plans up in the air. Mr. Mudd: Well, if I were to get an indication that the one-half acre lot would be acceptable along Tuckers, then I would be willing to go spend money with the Greenport Water Authority to go ahead with that water main. Now, on those five houses that have been shown there, to the south of that property evidently from what I gather they are getting daily phone calls from those people because the first guy that turns the water on, the other four go without. Evidentially, they had a new engineering plah to put a one inch main in there and I guess it isn't quite satisfactory. They complain they have a rust bottle up there because it is on a dead end coming out so it is creating a lot of problems~ They are very willing to talk about putting that main in there but I don't want to get their hopes up if I don't have any prospect of being able to recover my money. Of course, they want and you are probably well aware they want $4732.00 dollars a hook up now. Plus, another $485 SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD 27 APRIL27, 1992 dollars so you are dumping a lot of money in to begin with with the idea that if I tell them to go ahead with it and find I can't get my money out of it I wouldn't be too happy about the whole thing. Mr. Ward: Are we looking at ten or eleven lots? Mr. Mudd: separate house. The house on the corner, I would take that out of the one, that's the tenth lot really. It would improve the Everyone talking. Mr. Ward: Is this separate from this thing or is this the farm building to go with this lot? Everyone talking. Mr. Mudd: We have one access on there, there is a farm right now down there with those buildings on 48. Mr. Ward: Are there need for building construction to be (inaudible). Mr. Mudd: At this moment, I couldn't answer that. On this part up here, we have seven acres of grapes up there and they are about six or seven years old. If we could, we would like to be able to maintain that and keep that production and use it and put in more grapes along there as a condition of getting the lot size down and it is not anything in that neighborhood that is any greater than that, it is all standard size through there with that same lot on that same road. Mr. Ward: lot is to and house What we have been trying to do with that one large at least put a building envelope on it where the farm with eventually go. Everyone talking. Mr. Mudd: We would be amendable to wherever you suggest would be a good place. We have no preconceived ideas that it must go here or someplace else. Mr. Ward: So you are looking to us to see if something like this look O.K. to us. Mr. Mudd: Yes, there is another one for three quarter acre lot. I have two more here for a proposal for three quarter acre lot would take that down to eight lots. Mr. McDonald: Essentially, it is the same idea just fewer lots. Mr. Mudd: That is correct. SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD 28 APRIL 27, 1992 Everyone talking. Mr. Mudd: If you have any questions about it, I'll try and answer them. Mr. McDonald: It's about 30 acres right? Mr. Mudd: Twenty-nine acres. Right now, we are using the house and we have seven acres up there that we have in grapes and actually, we held off putting anymore grapes in there up until now because of the fact that I really personally felt that since the Town is moving in that direction, it would be unfair for us to go in there and put the whole thing in grapes when it really should be in houses. Within walking distance of Town and a lot of the things that go with it so we just held off doing anything with it. We didn't put anything in it. We had wheat in there one time, or a couple of times but it just doesn't pay to put the wheat in there. We just keep it cut now. Mr. McDonald: Are you concerned at all about the impact of the USEK? I don't mean that in a good or bad way but it could have an impact. In light of what you saying, it might have an impact on your property. Mr. Mudd: I am in sympathy with the fact that we could strip the area where the houses should be close to Town. I confer that is a good move. Mr. McDonald: I guess what I am asking is, is your long intent that you want to continue this in agriculture, the bulk of the property? Mr. Mudd: Yes. Mr. McDonald: So, even if the plan showed something else, it wouldn't necessarily effect your plans to continue to have the grapes there? Mr. Mudd: We Would probably continue it. Can I leave this with you? Mr. Orlowski: Yes, why don't you. Everyone talking. Mr. McDonald: If for some reason it was designated as a higher density, or whatever the plan comes up with you are precluding yourself and kind of cutting yourself off from some of your options. Mr. Mudd: That part is true except if I sell it and probably what I will have to do if I can't get some indication as to where I am going to go, I am going to have to sell it one way or SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD 29 APRIL 27, 1992 another. If somebody else were to take it, you are in the one acre zoning there with no trouble with water on both sides so you are down to 20 or some odd lots in any event. Thank you for your time. Mr. Orlowski:' O.K., we'll get back to you. have any comments or questions here tonight? entertain a motion to adjourn. Does anyone else Hearing none, I'll Mr. McDonald: I move we adjourn. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Ail those in favor? Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Being there was no further business to be brought before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 8:45. Ussea~,/~ecretary Bennett .....Orlowski ........Jr.~ Ch-~=~- ~/--~c~- ~ / LASER FICHE FORM SUBDIVISIONS Proiect Type: Major Status: Incomplete SCTM #: 1000- 59.-10-6 Proiect Name: Mudd, David Location: w/s/o Tucker Lane, Southold Hamlet: Southold Applicant Name: David Mudd Owner Name: David Mudd Zone 1: Approval Date: PLAT SiRned Date: OPTIONAL ADDITIONAL INFORMATION A date indicates that w~ have received the related information Zone 2: C and R's · Homeowners Association · R and M A,qreement: Address: County FilinR Date: Zone 3: SCAN Date: SCANNED Records Management k SOUI'HOLD TOWN ~,LANNING BOARD