HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-06/30/2009ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
TOWN CLERK
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MARRIAGE OFFICER
RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER
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OFFICE OF THE TOV~/N CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
PO Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Fax (631) 765-6145
Telephone: (631) 765 - 1800
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MINUTES
June 30,2009
4:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board
Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, NY. Supervisor Russell
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Call to Order
4:30 PM Meeting called to order on ]une 30, 20~ at
$outhold, NY.
Attendee Name
William Ruland
Vincent Orlando
Albert Krupski Jr.
Thomas H. Wickham
Louisa P. Evans
Scott Russell
Elizabeth A. Neville,
Martin D Flnng~a~i
I. Reports
1. Human
2. Budget
Month ended ~3y 31,
Organization
Town of 8buthold
Town Of g~thold
Town of Soutl~B~
Town 6f, Southol~l'
Town
~ld
Town
To,of Southold
2009
Hall, 53095 Route 25,
Title Status
~uncilmari Present
C6~mcilman Present
Councilman Present
,Councilman Present
;Justice Present
Supervisor Present
Town Clerk Present
Town Attorney Present
ArrivedI
3. Land Tracking
1 st Quarter 2009
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Il. Public Notices
1. NYSDEC Complete Application
Ros~ Milazzo Revocable Trust
2. SCDOH News Release
West Nile Hotline - 631-787-2200 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
3. NYSDOT Notice of Order
- decrease Western limit on Route 25 and Griffin Street
- Increase Eastern limit on Route 25 and Cases' Lane
4. Renewal Applications with NYS Liquor Authority
Fishers Island Yacht Club, Inc., Crescent Ave., Fishers Island
Fishers Island American Legion, Fishers Island
Bedell North Fork LLC for winery permit at Corey Creek Vineyards, 45470 Main Rd., Southold
Porpey Restaurant Inc. for Old Miss Inn, 5775 W. Mill Rd., Mattituck
Pellegrini Vineyards, LLC, 23005 Main Rd., Cutchogue
5. Town of Riverhead
- Additional Requirements
- Application for Special Permit
6. Public Information Meeting - 7/23/09 6:00 P.M.
Bittner Property
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 A.M. - Bob Terry, Erwin Bogner, Jeffrey DiLandro
Solar at the Landfill
2. 9:30 A.M. - Peter Harris, Jim McMahon
Weekend Garbage pickup
3. 10:00 A.M. - Jim McMahon, Tom Isles, SC Planning
Aquaculture lease program
4. 10:30 A.M. - Heather Lanza, Melissa Spiro, John Sepenoski
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Land Tracking Report
5. Animal Shelter Contract
Oversight Committee
6. Resolution Re: Hashamomuek Cove
7. Convenience Stores
8. Special Events Request
9. LUNCH
10. Goldsmith Inlet Scoping Comments
11. Maintenance Dredging Agreements
Gull Pond, Halls Creek, Town Creek
12. Recommendation of Planning Board
Agricultural Open Space EasementdSterling Harbor, Inc.
13. Follow-Up
Solid Waste Budget Shortfall
14. Memorandum of Agreement
Retiree
15.
16.
Executive Session - Labor
Conceming the employment of a particular person(s)
Executive Session - Labor
PERB Settlement Discussions
17.
Southold Response Re-Visited
Establishing Priorities
Pledge to the Flag
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What I would like to do is ask everybody to please rise for the
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
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Special Presentation
Supervisor Scott A. Russell
Before we get to the items on the agenda, I am going to, with a great deal of pride w~uld like to
present a proclamation to someone who has decided to retire after many, many, many years of
service to Southold Town. Jack Sherwood. Anyone who has been around here for any length of
time knows Jack. He is, any values, any qualities I had as an assessor I learned from Jack. He
has absolutely been a mentor to me, the rest of the Board of Assessors. He was an institutional
wealth of knowledge. He is going to be sorely missed. You cannot find anybody with the type
and to the extent of knowledge Jack has for this community and his deep commitment to his
community, his family, his church. I can't say enough about you Jack. I got married about 10
years ago, irony of irony, Jack and his wife Edie probably danced more than anybody there that
night, if you all remember. I have very fond memories of it myself. Hold on, I am going to
come down and read the proclamation.
Whereas a most devoted public servant of the Town of Southold is leaving the Assessors Office
and will now spend his retirement years in tree peace and tranquility; and Whereas Jack
Sherwood's co-workers will fondly remember his stories of military service and his first-hand
account of the Iwo Jima battle. The Assessors Office just won't be the same without his pleas
for milk with chocolate cake, the traditional bagel Wednesday's and his favorite lunch order:
"bowl and a roll"; and Whereas Jack has given generously of his time and talent and has
provided faithful service to the residents and employees of the Town of Southold since 1976.
Besides his duties as a mapping consultant, the historical knowledge he so enthusiastically
shared with everyone has been invaluable, and Southold's own "Natural Resource" will be sorely
missed; now, therefore be it Resolved that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
expresses its sincere appreciation to Jack Sherwood, a true gentleman, a man of faith and a
genuine good guy, for his dedicated efforts on behalf of Southold Town and extends their best
wishes for health and happiness in the years ahead; and be it further Resolved that a copy of this
resolution be presented to Jack Sherwood and entered into the permanent records of this Town
Board meeting.
I honestly am going, I told you when my son was born if my son grows up to be half the man
you are, I will be a very proud dad indeed and I mean every word of that. I mean, I am a lost
cause but we have hope for my son. There is also with that, the sadness in Jack's retiring, we
also have, I would like to ask everyone to please stand for a moment of silence in the passing of
Ruth Oliva, former Town Councilwoman and a member of the Zoning Board of Appeals and all
around active part of this government. Thank you very much. What I would like to do at this
point is ask anybody that has any issue they would like to address as it appears on this agenda,
please feel free to come forward and speak now.
Opening Statements
Karen Rivara, SC Aquaculture Corem
KAREN RIVARA: Hi, my name is Karen Rivara, I am a shellfish farmer in Southold Town.
Also a member of the Suffolk County Aquaculture Leasing program advisory committee and I
just want to thank you all for spending time with Tom Isles and DeWitt Davies today to take
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another look at the program. It is important for the Town, for all of us who work on the water
and try to keep the traditional fisheries alive. So, thank you for hopefully for your support.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like-to come up and address the"
Town Board?
Tom Skabry, Pres CSEA
TOM SKABRY: How are you doing? Betty, is this working?
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: It should be.
MR. SKABRY: I noticed that other microphone wasn't.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Well, that is because somebody pulled it in front, rather than to the
side. It is working though.
MR. SKABRY: Sure. Just a couple of comments, just looking quickly through the resolutions
tonight, first of all, Tom Skabry, CSEA. I notice we have a couple of resolutions, 486, 487 and
551. It appears that these all deal with Fishers Island Ferry District employees, it looks like they
are going to be giving these individuals some increases. I realize that some Board over there
must be approving them, but I just seem to remember reading in the local paper that that district
is approximately $600,000 or some odd short and I just hope that this Town Board takes that into
consideration when they deal that, when it comes up for resolution. That's, just wanted to make
comment on that. And resolution 534, this deals with an installation of the concrete pad for the
bagging program. On this issue, I just hope that Martin, I see that it has to be done by your
approval, will you please be sure that the proper wage scales will be abided by?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We, I envision that being defeated this evening. That particular
resolution.
MR. SKABRY: Alright. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't think there is support for it. On the issue of Fishers Island,
let me explain for everyone that Fishers Island Ferry District is a municipal corporation. They
operate their own ferry district and all fees, salaries, cost of operation are borne by the riders on
that ferry and the Fishers Island special district tax. Any of the raises you see in this agenda are
raises that are meted out by the Fishers Island Ferry commissioners to their workers. Their fiscal
year starts July 1st, unlike ours. So this is the raises in anticipation of their current fiscal year.
They have it appropriated and budgeted in their accounting for it. It is not any money from the
Town. The reason we vote on this, in other words, we vote on resolutions they already passed is
because as a municipal corporation, they operate under the full faith and credit of the Town, so
that they can go out and get bonding and things like that.
MR. SKABRY: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay? Would anybody else like to address the agenda? (No
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response) Okay, let's move forward.
Moment of Silence for Ruth Oliva
V. Resolutions
2009-537
CATEGORY: Audit
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Approved Audit 6/30/09
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated
June 30~ 2009~ with the exception of the payment to Dirtworks in the amount of
$6,975.
Vote Record-Resolution RES-2009-537
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Tabled
[3 Withdrawn Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supe~Msor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
Comments regarding resolution # 537
JUSTICE EVANS: But excepting out the bill of approximately $7,000 to Dirt Works.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: Mr. Supervisor, I will need to recuse myself from that vote as there
is a conflict of interest between myself and one of the vendors.
2009-549
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Set Meeting
Town Clerk
Set Next Meeting 7/14/09 7.'30 Pm
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 7:30 P. M..
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2009-486
Tabled 5/19/2009 4:30 PM, 6/2/2009 4:30 PM, 6/16/2009 7:30 PM
CA TEGORY: Employment - FileD
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
FIFD Longevity Salary Increase Nina $chmid
WHEREAS the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted a
resolution at their May 5, 2009 meeting to award a salary increase of 4% (due to 10 years in
service) to Assistant Manager Nina Schmid, effective May 19th, and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold is required to approve appointments and
salary adjustments of employees of the Fishers Island Ferry District, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the salary of
Assistant Manager of the Fishers Island Ferry District Nina Schmid to $26.856 per hour (4%
increase having completed 10 years of active service). This increase will be effective May 19th,
2009.
[] Defeated Vin~eni 0~lando Seconder 1~ 13 [3 [2]
Comments regarding resolution #486
COUNCILMAN RULAND: I would like to comment on that also. The Supervisor didn't
indicate that a group of us from the Town Board and the Supervisor's office and the Comptroller
and the Town Attorney visited with the Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District last
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week and while it is true that the Ferry Commissioners have the sole discretion of how they
operate the district, how they set the salaries, we had quite a discussion with them about our
feelings on the rates of increase and how they are determined and they listened to us and whether
in the end that-turns out to be something well taken or not, some 0fthe other resolutions that are
going to come up that deal with individual people, we did leam, at least I learned, something
very interesting. Some of the people only work two days a month, some might only work two
days per summer and that is why there are so many people, because they need coverage for all
the shifts and all the boats that they run and taking that into consideration, the increase, the cost
of living increase that they had proposed was put in a different perspective. While I am not
totally happy with it~ I do 5o ~ove:
2009-487
Tabled 5/19/2009 4:30 PM, 6/2/2009 4:30 PM, 6/16/2009 7:30 PM
CATEGORY: Employment - FIFD
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
2009 COLA Increase for Part-Time FIFD Personnel
WHEREAS the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted a
resolution at their May 5, 2009 meeting to grant the following part-time personnel a
3 V2 % cost of living increase effective June 1, 2009, and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold is required to approve appointments and
salary adjustments of mnployees of the Fishers Island Ferry District, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the salaries of the
following part-time Fishers Island employees by 3 V2 %:
Nicholas Bence
Ben Burdick
Josh Davis
Logan Glidewell
Tim Keating
John McElligott
Adolph Carl Ricker
Russell Smith
Debra Doucette
Leslie Tombari
Edward Bridgman
Don Casavant
Paul Foley
David Grote
Derek Marks
John McVeigh
Ken Ricker
John Stanford
Nicholas Powell
Rod Brown
Robert Craft
Peter Gilmore
John Steve Gural
Jason Marks
Anthony Mirabelli
Jack Searle
Andrew Tulba
Debra Silva
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-487
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled " Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt T~omas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scoit Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-534
Tabled 6/16/2009 7:30 PM
CATEGORY: Bid Acceptance
DEPARTMENT: Solid Waste Management District
Reject Bid on Compost Bldg. Foundation
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rejects the bid of
Debut Concrete and General Contractor to construct a concrete foundation at the compost
facilitv in Cutchogue at a cost of $29,531., all in accordance with the plans and specifications
provided by the Town Engineer and with the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote ReCOrd - ReSOlution RES-2009-534
[] Adopted ~s/~y~ Np~N~y Absta!n ~b~t
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vi~ent 0riand0 Seconder [] [] [] : []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert ~pski Jr: Initiator [] [] [] []
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] : [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
Comments regarding resolution # 534
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: The reason for this is that we, we meaning the Town Board, we are
supporting the compost bagging idea and plan many months ago and since it is still basically in a
pile, we are reevaluating the whole situation because it hasn't exactly gone as, the way it was
described to us. So I will make ....
JUSTICE EVANS: You are putting the resolution forth as rejecting the bid?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Rejecting the bid. That is fight.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You just make the change on it because the resolution says accepts.
We are just going to change that to rejects.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Okay.
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2009-550
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Grants
Community Development
2009 Community Development Block Grant Program
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an Agreement with the County of Suffolk~ Office of
Community, Development in connection with the 2009 Community Development Block Grant
Program in the amount of $130,000, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
~' Vote ReCord; ReSOlution RES-2009aS$0
[] Adopted Yes/Ay~ N~/Nay Absta n Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Voter [~ [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-551
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - FIFD
Accounting
FI 6 Month Probationary Pay Increase Conal 0 'Keefe
WHEREAS the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted a
resolution at their June 16, 2009 meeting that upon successfully completing his six month
probationary period, full time deckhand Conal O'Keefe shall be given a pay increase to $14.00
per hour effective July 1, 2009
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold is required to approve appointments and
salary adjustments of employees of the Fishers Island Ferry District, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the salary of
Fishers Island Ferry District full time deckhand Conal O'Keefe to $14.00 per hour effective July
1, 2009.
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~' vote Re~ord - Re~olution RE8-2009-551
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended Willimn Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter E1 13 [] []
[] Tabled Aib~ ~pSki Jr. ~i~ El [3 [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham : Initiator [] , [] El []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-552
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - FileD
Accounting
Hire PT Seasonal Theater Personnel FIFD
WHEREAS the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted a
resolution at their June 16, 2009 to hire two part-time seasonal employees for the operation of
the movie theater for the summer season from July 1st until September 7, 2009. Michael Conroy
as a seasonal Recreational Aide at $125.00 per movie and Kafla Heath as a seasonal Clerk at
$200.00 per week, and
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold is required to approve appointments and
salary adjustments of employees of the Fishers Island Ferry District, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Michael Conroy as
a Seasonal Recreational Aide at $125.00 per movie and Karla Heath as a Clerk at $200.00 per
week. These appointments will begin on July 1, 2009 and end on September 7, 2009.
VOte Re~0rd ~ Resolulion RES-2009-552
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr, Voter [] [3 [3 [3
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
12.
Comments regarding resolution # 552
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: For $125 per movie, I will go over and act that out for them.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: I think that is once a week. A movie once a week.
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~Q~![MAN KRUPSKI: Wait, what are we vo~!pg 0n?
2009-553
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Bid Acceptance
Public Works
Fishers Island Basketball Court Resurfacing
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of
JB's Asphalt Sealcoating~ Inc., 123 Broad Avenue~ Riverhead~ NY 11901 to
reconstruct/resurface the basketball court on Fishers Island~ in accordance with the plans
and specification prepared by James Richter~ RA, dated May 26, 2009, in the amount of $
18,750, alt in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
~' Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-553
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay ~ Abstain Absent
[21 Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdmwn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-554
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Public Works
Fishers Island Basketball Court Project
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an Agreement with JB's Asphalt Sealcoating~ Inc. in
connection with the reconstruction and resurfacing of a basketball court, on Fishers Island, in the
amount of $18,750, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES~2009-554
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] Fl [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
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2009-555
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Committee Resignation
Town Clerk
Accept the Resignation of Donald Leslie,lr. from the Housing Advisory Commission
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts~ with regret~ the
resignation of Donald Leslie Jr. from the Housing Advisory Commissiom effective
immediately.
Vote Record- Resolution RIGS-2009-555
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] tn [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] 13 [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krapski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
2009-556
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Committee Appointment
Town Clerk
Appoint Patricia Fulford to the Anti-Bias Task Force
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Patricia Fulford
to the Anti-Bias Task Force, effective immediately through March 31, 2010, to fill the
unexpired term of Elaine Breese who resigned May 19, 2009.
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] 13
[3 Tabled Aib~ Krupski i; V~ter 171 F1 F1 F1
Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-557
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Authorize to Bid
Town Clerk
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Advertise for Bids for the Construction of Runway Crack Repair and Sealing at Elizabeth Field, Fishers
Island
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the
Town Clerk to advertise for bids for the Construction of Runway Crack Repair and
Sealing at Elizabeth Field~ Fishers Island in the Suffolk Times and New London Day.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-557
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ru and In ator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H W ckham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Lou sa P Evans Voter [] [] · [] Fl
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Voter
[] Rescinded Scott Russell [] [] [] []
2009-558
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - Town
Accounting
Intent to Retire John Addamo Effective 7/29/2009
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the letter of intent
to retire of John Addamo from the position of Groundskeeper II in the Building and
Grounds Department, effective July 29, 2009.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-558
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando lnitiaio~ ~ ~ : [] FI
[] Tabled Aib~ ~pski .ir ~eco~der ~ F1 [] : []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [2] Fl
2009-559
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Training
Attend Seminar
Building Department
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Zoning Inspector Damon Rallis to attend mandatory training on Green Buildings and
Structural Issues in Quogue~ on OEtober 6, 2009 and October 27, 2009, respectively. All
expenses for registration and travel to be a legal charge to the 2009 Building Department budget
(meetings and seminars).
Vote Record- Resolution RES-2009-559
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
D Withdrawn [] [] [] []
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] D
2009-560
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Training
Attend Seminar
Building Department
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Zoning Inspector Damon Rallis to attend mandatory training on Existing Buildings. The
training will be in Babylon, on July 21, 2009. All expenses for registration and travel to be a
legal charge to the 2009 Building Department budget (meetings and seminars).
vote Record -Resolution RES~2009,560
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Defeated William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Aibert ~pski Jr. Vot~ [] ~ ~ []
[] Supervisoes Appt ~ill~ Hi ~[~kh~m Seconder [] [] [] D
[] Tax Receiver's ^ppt Louisa P. Evans ini~iai~ ~ ~ 12 []
[] Rescinded Scott RussellVoter ~ 12 D []
Next: Jul 14, 2009 7:30 PM
21.
Comments regarding resolution #560
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I was going to ask if we could consider tabling that until the next
meeting?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Yes. Yes. I would like to do that, too.
2009-561
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CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Grants
Community Development
2009 Juvenile Aid Bureau Grant
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to sign the Individual Program Application for the 2009
Southold Juvenile Aid Bureau Program~ in the amount of $24,583 for the term January 1,
2009 through December 31, 2009.
Vote Record ~ Resolution RES-2009-$61
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [2] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] O [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receivers Appt
E] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [~ [] [] []
2009-562
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Grants
Community Development
Southold Youth Bureau Grant
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to sign the Individual Program Application for the 2009
Southold Youth Bureau Granh in the amount of $13,980. for the term January 1, 2009
through December 31, 2009.
vote Ree0rd ~ Resolution RES.2009.562
[] Adopted Yes/Aye N~ay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski jil V~[er [] [] [] F1
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisors Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] D
2009~563
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Close/Use Town Roads
Town Clerk
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 17
Grants Permission to the Mattituck-Cutchogue UFSD to Use Town Roads for Its Homecoming Day
Parade in Mattituck on Saturday, October 3, 2009
Fiscal Impact:
cost for Police Department $151.10
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the
Mattituck-Cutchogue UFSD to use the following roads for its Homecoming Day Parade in
Mattituck on Saturday, October 3~ 2009 beginning at 9:00 AM: Mary's Road, Pike Street,
Westphalia Avenue, Sound Avenue and Love Lane, provided they file with the Town Clerk a
One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional
insured and contact Capt. Flatley immediately upon notification of approval of this resolution to
coordinate traffic control. Support is for this year only, as thc Southold Town Board continues to
evaluate the usc of town roads.
vote Record 2 Resoluti0n RES-2009-S63
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] : [] : []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Aibe~ Krupski Jr. Second~ [] F1 [] []
[] Withdrawn gt [2] D FI
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
[] Supervisor's Appt gl [] FI [2
Louisa P. Evans Voter
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-564
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Property Acquisition Public Hearing
Town Clerk
Amend Resolution No. 2009-541 by Changing the Public Hearing Date and Time to July 14, 2009 at 7.'32
P.M.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends Resolution No.
2009-541 by changing the public hearing date and time to July 14~ 2009 at 7:32 p.m.:
"RESOLVED that pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund)
and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands) of the Town Code, the Town Board of the Town of
Southold hereby sets Tuesday~ June ~, July 14~ 2009 at 4-:3g-pa~.7:32 p.m.~ Southold Town
Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York as the time and place for a public hearing for the
purchase of a development rights easement on property owned by P&E LLC. Said property is
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 18
identified as part of SCTM #1000-120.-3-11.11. The address is 5655 Aldrich Lane. The property
is located in the A-C zoning district and is on the westerly side of Aldrich Lane, approximately
1200 feet ibuth from the intersection of Aldrich Lane and Sound Avenue in Laurel, New York.
The proposed acquisition is for a development rights easement on a part of the property
consisting of approximately 18+ acres (subject to survey) of the 22.174- acre parcel."
The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided survey acceptable to the Land
Preservation Committee and the property owner. The purchase price is $65,000 (sixty-five
thousand dollars) per buildable acre for the 18± acre easement plus acquisition costs. The
easement will be acquired using Community Preservation Funds.
The property is listed on the Town's Community Preservation Project Plan as property that
should be preserved due to its open space agricultural and aquifer recharge area values; and
FURTHER NOTICE is hereby given that a more detailed description of the above mentioned
parcel of land is on file in Land Preservation Department, Southold Town Hall Annex, 54375
Route 25, Southold, New York, and may be examined by any interested person during business
hours.
'/vote R~rd - Resolution RES;2009~564
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amcmded William Ruland Voter
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] U] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H, Wickham : Voter [] [3 [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] []
2009-565
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Surplus Equipment
Solid Waste Management District
SWMD Surplus Equipment - Screening Plant
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 19
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares the following
equipment from the Solid Waste Management District to be surplus equipment: One (1)
1994 Re-Tech Model P622 Trommel Screen; AND
Be it further RESOLVED that the Town Board authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to
advertise for sale of same.
Vote Record -Re~olution RES-2009-565
[~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Pdnended William Ruland Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent OrlandoVoter [] [] [3 , []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-566
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Employment - Town
Recreation
Hire Seasonal Employee
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following 2009
seasonal summer staff for the period July 1 - September 7~ 2009 as follows:
STILLWATER LIFEGUARDS HOURLY SALARY
Andreas Stavropolos (lst year) .................................... $12.17
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter
[] Tabled Albert Krapski Jr. Voter 13 13
2009-567
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Bid Acceptance
Solid Waste Management District
Accept Bid for Surplus Equipment - Ag-Bag
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 20
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the following bids
for the purchase of surplus equipment from the Solid Waste Management District~ all in
accordance with Town Attorney:
· $7,112.01 for one (1) Ag Bag system from Maplehurst Farms
· $6,750.80 for one (1) Steco trailer from County Auto Wreckers
Vote Record - Resolution R1~S-2009~567
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] · []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] [3
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-568
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Appropriate SEQRA Reimbursement
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
Revenues:
To'
A.2110.40
Appropriations:
To:
A. 1010.4.500.300
Zoning Fees
SEQRA Reimbursement
$ 2,950
Town Board, C.E.
Fee for Services
Environmental Consultant $ 2,950
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-568
[] Adopted V~s/AYe No,NaY Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
[] Tabled Aibe~ Kmpski Jr. ~ec0fider El [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] ( []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] : [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scoi~ Russell Voter [] [] [] []
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 21
2009-569
CA TEGOR ¥:
DEPARTMENT:
Authorize Payment
Town Attorney
Authorizes the Payment of $16,806. 72 to the Village of Greenport for the East West Greenport Fire
Protection District's Share of the Shortfall in the LOSAP Payments Due Under the Prior Agreement with
the Village of Greenport
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the payment of
$16,806.72 to the Village of Greenport for the East West Greenport Fire Protection
District's share of the shortfall in the LOSAP payments due under the prior Agreement
with the Village of Greenport, said payment shall be a legal charge to the East West Greenport
Fire Protection District's 2009 Fire Fighting budget, SF.3410.4.400.100.
Vote ReCOrd - Resolution RES~2009~569
I~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [2] Iq ~
[] Defeated Vincent Orlendo Seconder [] [] [3 [3
[3 Tabled Xib~ ~pi~i jr. ~ [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Superviso~'s Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-570
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Amendment of Agreement Between the
Suffolk County Office for the Aging and the Town of Southold for Community Services for the Elderly
Residential Repair Program
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Amendment of Agreement between the Suffolk
County Office for the Aging and the Town of Southold for community services for the
Elderly Residential Repair Program, regarding a one year extension for the period April 1,
2009 through March 31, 2010, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
June 30, 2009
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Page 22
~ V~te Record - Resolution RES-2009-S70
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr: Voter - [] [] [] '- []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-455
Tabled 5/19/2009 4:30 PM, 6/2/2009 4:30 PM
CATEGORY: Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT: Police Dept
Grant Permission to Chief Carlisle E. Cochran, .Ir., to Attend Annual New York State Chiefs of Police
Association, Inc., Training Conference in Saratoga Springs, NY
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Chief
Carlisle E. Cochran~ Jr, to attend the NYS Chiefs of Police Association~ Inc., annual
training conference commencing on Sunday, July 12 through Wednesday~ July 15~ 2009 in
Saratoga Springs, New York. Travel and Conference cost to be a legal charge to the 2009
Police Training budget line - A.3120.4.600.200, not to exceed $250.00. All other expenses to be
paid by Chief Cochran.
Vote Record - ResolUtion RES-2009-455
[] Adopted yes,Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krapski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham n t ator rn [] El []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt SCOtt Russell Voter [] [] [] []
33.
Comments regarding resolution # 455
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I am voting against it. Although I recognize that it is a generous
offer by the Chief, in principal, I am not prepared to support additional training that is outside of
Long Island.
2009-571
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Dredge Gull Pond
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 23
WHEREAS the Town of Southold has requested the County of Suffolk to dredge a navigation
channel in Gull Pond, Town of Southold;.and
WHEREAS the County of Suffolk proposes to do said dredging of Gull Pond in the Town of
Southold at a nominal cost to the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS in order to accomplish said dredging, plans, specifications, agreements and other
documents must be executed on behalf of the Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS this approval shall remain in effect for the period of the required permits and any
renewals thereof; now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute all necessary plans and specifications, surplus
material area agreements~ assurances to the County of Suffolk, license and/or dredging
permit applications to Federal and State Agencies and any and all other documents that may be
required to accomplish said dredging work, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record- Resolution RES-2009-571
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded
2009-572
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Dredging Town Creek
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
WHEREAS the Town of Southold has requested the County of Suffolk to dredge a navigation
channel in Town Creek, Town of Southold; and
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WHEREAS the County of Suffolk proposes to do said dredging of Town Creek in the Town of
Southold at a nominal cost to the Town of Southold, ~d
WHEREAS in order to accomplish said dredging, plans, specifications, agreements and other
documents must be executed on behalf of the Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS this approval shall remain in effect for the period of the required permits and any
renewals thereof; now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute all necessary plans and specifications~ surplus
material area agreements~ assurances to the County of Suffolk, license and/or dredging
permit applications to Federal and State Agencies and any and all other documents that may bc
required to accomplish said dredging work, subject to the approval of thc Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES~2009-572
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
Albert Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn T~omas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-573
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Dredging Halls Creek (Mud Creek)
WHEREAS the Town of Southold has requested the County of Suffolk to dredge a navigation
channel in Halls Creek (Mud Creek), Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS the County of Suffolk proposes to do said dredging of Halls Creek (Mud Creek) in
the Town of Southold at a nominal cost to the Town of Southold, and
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Page 25
WHEREAS in order to accomplish said dredging, plans, specifications, agreements and other
documents must be executed on behh]f of the Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS this approval shall remain in effect for the period of the required permits and any
renewals thereof; now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute all necessary plans and speeifieations~ surplus
material area agreements~ assurances to the County of Suffolk, license and/or dredging
permit applications to Federal and State Agencies and any and all other documents that may be
required to accomplish said dredging work, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
vote Record - ResolUtion RES-2009-573
[] Adopted
[] Adopted as Amended ~e~ye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Defeated William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Aibe~ Kmpski Jr. !n!fia~[ [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] F1 F1 []
Louisa P. Evans Voter
[] Tax Receiver's Appt [] FI [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] F1
Next: Jul 14, 2009 7:30 PM
37.
Comments regarding resolution # 573
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I am going to ask the Board to hold this resolution if we could
because this is not a creek that the County has dredged in the recent past and my concern and I
have been thinking about this since the work session, my concern is if we authorize the County
to dredge this and then there is a shortfall in County dredging, that I don't think that this is one of
the priority creeks that we would want kept open and if this were one of the ones that the County
did and not another one that would be more important, I think would be an unfortunate set of
circumstances. So I would like to hold it and talk to either the Dredging Advisory Commission
or the Trustees or both. And or the County, Department of Public Works and see exactly what
their intentions are.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I just hope that it wouldn't interfere with the windows. I don't know
what the time frame is.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: The normal window wouldn't start until September. So that
shouldn't be a problem.
2009-574
June 30, 2009
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Page 26
CATEGORY: Close/Use Town Roads
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Waive the Parking Regulations to the Group for the East End on Tuesday, July 11, 2009 4:30 PM to 8:30
PM for the "Sunset Paddle & BBQ on Hallock's Bay"
Fiscal Impact:
None associated with this event
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby waives the oarkin~
regulations to the Group for the East End on Tuesday~ July 11~ 2009 4:30pm to 8:30pm for
the "Sunset Paddle & BBQ on Hallock's Bay", provided they file with the Town Clerk a One
Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured
and provided the cars are displaying a special Parking Permit on the Group for the East End
letterhead and they contact Captain Martin Flatley of the Southold Police Department
immediately for proper placement of the permits.
vote Ree°rd ~ Resolution RES-2009-574
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated vincent orlando voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] : [2] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisors Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [3 [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-575
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Committee Appointment
Town Clerk
Appoint Horton to ABTF
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Audrey Itorton to
the Anti- Bias Task Force~ effective immediately~ to a term of office expiring on March 31~
2010.
Vote ReCOrd ~ Resolution RES-2009-575
~) Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulm~d Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent OrlandoVoter Vd [2] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] 0 ~ [3
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P, Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
June 30, 2009
Southold Town Board Meeting .Minutes
Page 27
2009-576
'CATEGORY: Public Service
DEP~IRTMENT: Town Clerk
Waive the Special Events Regulations for the Rotary Clubs' 18Th Annual Lobster Fest and the Cutchogue
Fire Department's Annual Chicken BBQ
Fiscal Impact:
No financial impact associated with this event.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby waives the Special Events
regulations for the Rotary Clubs' 18th Annual Lobster Fest on July 25~ 2009 at the Wharf
House at Founders Landing, Southold and the Cutchogue Fire Department's Annual Chicken
BBQ on August 22~ 2009 on the fire district's grounds on New Suffolk Rd., Cutchogue.
~ ¥0te Record - Re~!ution RES-2009-576
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] : [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] 13
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [~ [] [] []
2009-577
CATEGORY:
DEP. dRTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Retain Offshore & Coastal Technologies,
Incorporated to Provide Comments on Additional Scoping Items in Connection with the Proposed
Shortening of the Goldsmith Inlet Jetty
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to retain Offshore & Coastal Technologies, Incorporated to
provide comments on additional scoping items in connection with the proposed shortening
of the Goldsmith Inlet iet .ty, pursuant to their Proposal dated June 12, 2009, at a cost not to
exceed $1,500.00, subject to the approval of the Town Attomey.
June 30, 2009
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Page 28
Albert Ktupski Jr. S~ ~ [] [] []
2009-578
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Support Resolution
Town Attorney
Rescind Resolution (42009-548
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds Resolution #2009-
548 in its entirety as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby opposes County of Suffolk
Introductory Resolution No. 1546-2009 introducing a proposed local law entitled "A Local Law
Establishing the Suffolk County Shellfish Aquaculture Lease Program in Peconic Bay and
Gardiners Bay" and respectfully urges the County Legislature to not pass this legislation in its
current form.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-578
[~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay , Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] U [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Alber~ Krapski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-579
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Support Resolution
Town Attorney
Supports County of Suffolk Introductory Resolution No. 1546-2009 Introducing a Proposed Local Law
Entitled ".4 Local Law Establishing the St4ffolk County Shellfish Aquaculture Lease Program in Peconic
Bay and Gardiners Bay"
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby supports County of Suffolk
June 30, 2009
Southotd Town Board Meeting Minutes
Page 29
Introductory Resolution No. 1546-2009 introducing a proposed local law entitled "A Local
Law Establishing the Suffolk Court ,ty Shellfish Aquaculture Lease Program in Peconic Bay
and Gardiners Bay" and respectfully urges the County Legislature to pass this legislation in its
current form.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-579
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter I~l [] [] []
[] Tabled Albe~t Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Resc[nded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-580
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Memorandum of Agreement W/CSEA
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
Memorandum of Agreement dated June 22, 2009 between the Town of Southold and the
CSEA, concerning retiree health benefits.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-580
[] Adopted yes/A~e N0~Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [3 []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[][] Tabledwithdrawn Albea Krupski ii' ~ [] [] 13 []
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Super~isor's Appt ~ec~d~ ~ ~ [] El
Louisa P. Evans
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] : []
2009-581
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Budget Modification GASB 45 Actuarial Services
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009
Accounting & Finance Department budget as follows:
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Page 30
From:
A.1310.4.500.100 Bond Counsel/Bond Fees $ 2,500
To:
A.1310.4.500.200 Actuarial Services $ 2,500
'/' Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-581
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Seconder [] [] [] []
Vincent Orlando
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Withdrawn [] [] [] []
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-582
CATEGORY:
DEPARTMENT:
Support Resolution
Town Attorney
Letter in Support/Hashamomuck Cove
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute a letter in support of the feasibility phase of the
Reconnaissance Study of Hashamomuck Cove to be conducted by the Army Corps of
Engineers, at no cost to the Town of Southold, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES~2009,582
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended Willimn R~land Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] 0
[] Tabled ~ ben Kmpsk J~ ~eco~der [] ~ O D
[] Withdrawn Tho~nas H. Wickham Voter [] V1 0 ~
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] El
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-583
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Town Attorney
Accepts the Recommendations of the Planning Board and Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A.
Russell to Execute the Agricultural Open Space Easement in Connection with a Subdivision Application
Entitled "Standard Subdivision of Sterling Harbor, Inc."
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
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Page 31
recommendations of the Planning Board and authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott A.
Russell to execute the Agricultural Open Space Easement in connection with a subdivision
application entitled "Standard Subdivision ot Sterling Harbor~ Inc.", subject to the approval
of thc Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-583
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Votex [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
Closing Statements
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That concludes the business of the agenda. I would now invite
anybody that would like to come up and address any issue of mutual interest, please feel free
now. Dolly Snyder7
Dolly Schneider
DOROTHY SNYDER: My name is Dorothy Snyder and I am the owner of a 56 acre parcel. If
you don't mind, now that I have given my name, I would like to read this and then if there is any
questions or whatever, feel free to ask them. As I stated, my name is Dorothy Snyder and I am
the owner of a 56 acre parcel of property, located on North Road, Albertson Road, Colony Road
and Bayview, one facing the sound and one facing Arshamomaque creek. When I first
purchased the property, I went in for a change of zone for a subdivision. The Board refused my
application, saying it was because they had no water. When I asked when it would become
available, they said they had no idea. I was told to withdraw my application, which I did. This
cost me much money to prepare. I also got letters from DEC and consultants etc. pertaining to
wetlands, of which they stated in their opinion, the property had no wetlands. I then became
instrumental with Suffolk County Water Authority buying out Greenport Water Authority. As a
result of this, projects including Peconic Landing were able to be built. Then came the
moratorium and a new Supervisor, Scott Russell. I have put in over several years of hard work
to pursue my project. I feel strongly about this because the project would bring jobs, people
would spend money, including downtown, where there are so many empty stores and most
important, almost a million dollars a year would be gained in taxes from the project. As I went
along with this with my architect, who unfortunately is not able to be here this evening, changes
were made to cluster the buildings, put in a beautiful clubhouse and reorganize the layout as
suggested. There would also be someone on the premises at all hours to drive the people into
town to spend money, visit doctors, etc. which would help the economy and keep very satisfied
renters. By bringing in the extra revenue from this property every year, we wouldn't have to lay
off people including police officers who cover from Orient Point to Mattituck. This is not only
creating heartache for people who have been laid off in these hard times but also causing people
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to leave our beautiful island. I would like the Board to take my application, and have time to
explain my intentions to the people, so that a fair judgment of my property could be made. I
thank the Board and all who have listened. I once again ask for your consideration to rezone my
property. Thank you. Wh~t I mean by this is, I did pht in an application and I did all the
necessary things including getting aerial maps paid for by Nelson, Pope and Voorhees, I already
had the girls type in the necessary radius people, which was only waiting for a date from the
Board. I was told pick up your check and take back your application. Now, unfortunately this is
not fair because not only the Board's should decide what the people of Southold should have.
This is a very, very good project; would bring much money. You wouldn't have to worry about
laying people off. At this time especially, it is almost criminal. All the while I have been in the
position where thank god financially I have been able to do this without having to go to banks for
money. I worked very hard all my life and this is a dream that could become a reality which
more important, gives you money. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Excuse me, could you give the Town Clerk a copy, please?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and address the Town Board
on any other issue of mutual interest?
Melanie Norden, Greenport
MELANIE NORDEN: Melanie Norden, Greenport. A point of clarification, resolution 580.
What is the substance of the memorandum of understanding that you arrived at?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Is that public ....
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: It is...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I know what it is. I mean, is that...
MS. NORDEN: I mean, isn't all of the information regarding how our tax dollars are spent
public information?
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: It is not regarding tax dollars.
MS. NORDEN: Excuse me, I can't hear you.
TOWN ATTORNEY FINNEGAN: It has to do with just correcting what was an anomaly in ....
MS. NORDEN: But I am asking what is the substance of the anomaly?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know what? As a matter of record, there is a gentleman that
retired who under current contract would require 10 years of active service and participation in a
medical plan to retire and qualify for medical coverage. He had actually opted out of our plan,
he had good medical coverage for a couple of years and decided he didn't need to burden the
Town with the cost of the medical coverage. The problem is, now that counts against him
because although he has worked for the Town for more than 10 years, he didn't have the full 10
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years needed investing in the medical plan. The Town agreed by memorandum of understanding
with the union that we don't want to punish someone for trying to save the Town money and that
we would credit him with the two years of participation in the medical plan. That was the
agreement wiih the union. "
MS. NORDEN: Okay. It would be helpful in some of these resolutions if we had a little more
clarification going forward. It is very vague. You can read this as a decision that might have
been made across the board for every retiree. So it is just very difficult when you are looking at
the resolutions to understand what the substance is. With respect to resolution 576, what are the
special event regulations that were waived in the cases of both of these events?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The special events regulations which would require costs, permits
and the like. There was a problem with the wording with the legislation itself in that our intent
for public property was town owned property or private property not municipal corporation
property. In these two specific cases, these are governed by a fire district and a park district.
They have their own sets of rules and regulations, their own insurance requirements, their own
everything. It was not our intent to try to expand our sphere of influence over the park districts
and the fire departments. They have their own commissioners who speak for the uses of their
property. Unfortunately with the wording it would look like on a quick read that these people
needed to come to us for a special permit as well. They don't, they just need to go to their park
district or their fire commissioners.
MS. NORDEN: Okay. So basically you are really tracking in the special event legislation about
activities that take place on Town of Southold properties only?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Town of Southold property or private property, private businesses,
things of that like. But we don't really have the right to regulate the use, you know, park district
property isn't really public property it is held for the benefit of a small group of people so, that
was simply a glitch in our wording.
MS. NORDEN: Right.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: And it was really targeted for for-profit organizations, charitable
ones we didn't really target the whole legislation.
MS. NORDEN: Yeah, well that was part of my objection because I really think that charitable
organizations can afford to pay some money to the Town to host events because events generate
lots of dollars. But anyway, I raised those issues the last time around. I am just concerned
though that if we, does that mean then that the fire departments and the special park districts
don't require any town services to actually host these events? They don't require police or
anything else? Because if they do, in point of fact there should be some money kicked in to
underwrite those services that taxpayers are paying for.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They, there is a modest amount of use the policing. That is at the
discretion of the police department. There are no road closures or anything of that nature. Also,
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you know those fire districts and those park districts, the residents of those districts are taxpayers
in this town as well. They are entitled to a certain amount of policing services and the like.
MS. NORDEN: Righff Okay. So these are actually large events that do require quite a bit of
regulation with respect to parking and lots of other things. I am just saying that we should
consider if we don't want to regulate what events take place on fire department property or on
parks department property, that we should nevertheless recognize the fact that they are going to
be using up resources that we as a, town-wide pay for. And that we should have some
reimbursement established so that we will not be out of pocket for either of these entities or
entities going forward. So we could think a little bit about that and in this tight economy. Thank
you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to address....?
Don Sayre, Southold
DON SAYRE: My name is Don Sayre, from Southold. I was here at a meeting a couple of
weeks ago when you mentioned that you were going to terminate or layoff people. And at that
time, somebody had asked the question how much is health insurance costing the town and you
had mentioned it was $20,000 per family to the town and you know, I don't know what broker
you have or anything like that, I don't know who looks at your plan or how often but you can
buy insurance for a lot less than that. A decent plan from a reputable company could cost
anywhere from $15,000 to $17,000. That is a cost savings right there. And I don't know, is the
town looking into any ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are actually self-insured and we have a plan administrator, that
administers our account each year. You have to remember that the medical plan is also tied to a
benefits package that you need to negotiate with the prospective unions, so a lot of the medical
plans that are out there that could save us money would mean a drastic cut in quality of the
coverage. That is the balancing act.
MR. SAYRE: I don't agree with that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
MR. SAYRE: Not all town employees are with the union and I really think there could be a cost
savings if you look into this. Are all elected officials entitled to health insurance? Medical
insurance? The Trustees...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
MR. SAYRE: Everybody.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
MR. SAYRE: So their salary could be lower than the cost of the insurance that they are getting.
The benefit.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
MR. STkYRE: Everybody thinks that that is fair?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I do.
MR. SAYRE: I think that they could forgo their salary and take the insurance.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know, I think that that's, I have worked along with these town
boards, democrats and republicans, I don't think that people have an appreciation for how many
hours of service these board members put in. Everybody knows by job is full time. I think they
need to know that the Town Board members put in inordinate amounts of hours, night,
weekends, days. They really do. Also, if you are going to start looking at reducing the type of
reimbursement they are going to get, you have to start wondering what quality candidates you
are going to have down the road. It is a fundamental issue. What we are doing as a Town Board
is in the very near future, we are sitting down with management and we are requiring ourselves
and management to all pay 5% of our medical coverage. Five percent out of pocket from each of
us. All the elected officials and all of the management, anybody that is full time that is not
covered by a union contract. Five percent. You know, I think to just be strident and say do away
with it, I don't think that is fair either. I mean, these people work more than full time. Even the
ones I don't agree with work more than full time.
MR. SAYRE: Yeah but I don't know. I don't really agree with that. I don't, quite frankly, I
don't agree that the council people get it. I don't think that they should be entitled to it. They
get a salary, I don't know what the salary is now because what is posted on the website is 2008
numbers. It has gone up, I am assuming for 2009.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, we didn't. The Town Board hasn't taken a raise in two years.
MR. SAYRE: Okay. Well, that is good.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And as a point of fact, I haven't taken one in four.
MR. SAYRE: But keeping the insurance, I don't think it should be. And I don't think that, if
you are saying that these people put in this much time and their salary is in excess of $30,000 a
year, I think?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes. Probably.
MR. SAYRE: Trustee's are probably half that, so they are probably putting in half the time that
these people are and that is, that is just not fair. It is not right. I don't think that the taxpayers
should be, should have to put up with the burden of giving these people health insurance. In
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regard to cost sharing, I do applaud you there; that is a good thing. And that is for management
and the council people and ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Elected officials.
MR. SAYRE: Okay. There is no more buyout? If somebody doesn't take insurance, you
can't ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
MR. SAYRE: There is no more buyout on that?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, we offer a buyout if you are buying out of the town's insurance
coverage. We had a glitch in the past where if you had a husband and a wife working both for
the town, there was also a policy that allowed one of them to buyout while they were still
covered under the spouse's plan. That was never the intent of the buyout. We did away with
that. But you can still buyout if you are going to move out to insurance, if you are a Trustee who
happens to be a teacher and you have better coverage, we offer buyouts. That saves the
taxpayers substantial amounts of money.
MR. SAYRE: Well, they could forgo the buyout, too. I don't agree with the buyout either. I
don't...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: How about for employees though?
MR. SAYRE: Excuse me?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: How about for employees?
MR. SAYRE: No, I don't think it should be. You know, you are offering a benefit to an
employee. They either take it or they leave it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah. That is a fair point. A very fair point.
MR. SAYRE: And as far as this ten year, this ten year giveaway program that we have here, this
retirement, because you work for the town 10 years or more you are entitled to take the insurance
with you ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah.
MR. SAYRE: That is a horrendous cost. Horrendous.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think this Board agrees with you 100 % on that. That is contract
language that has been there long before, that predates all of this Board. This entire Town
Board. In terms of how that got into the contract. But I agree. Also, you get 10 years here and
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have to be of a retirement age to qualify. In other words, if you put 10 years in and you are my
age, 45, and you go, like if I went; it is likely, I don't get to go with medical coverage because I
am not old enough. You would still have to be the retirement age.
MR. SAYRE: I don't know. I really think you have to rethink that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I agree.
MR. SAYRE: When you renegotiate with your unions, you really have to bring that point
across. We can't afford this. And even in the good times it shouldn't happen. Right now we are
going through some economic times that are really pressing but a lot of this stuff really should be
addressed and you really have to cut the costs. And this is only one line on your budget, health
insurance. What about all the other lines? You know, you really have to scrutinize every line of
your budget. With that said, that is enough.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you very much.
Lori Salmon, Southold
LORI SALMON: Loft Salmon, Southold. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but it did bring
something to mind. When we polled the Board two weeks ago about insurance benefits, who
took it and who didn't, Mr. Ruland said that he didn't. Do you take the buyout or are you also ....
COUNCILMAN RULAND: I did in 2008.
MS. SALMON: You are not taking it this year?
COUNCILMAN RULAND: No.
MS. SALMON: I applaud you.
Melanie Norden
MS. NORDEN: Just for the record, I thoroughly disagree with the last speaker. I do believe that
if people are public servants, they really should have the benefits that have accrued to that.
Particularly at a 10 year basis. I mean, it makes virtually no sense to work your life away in
Town Hall, find yourself retired with no medical benefits with no money to pay for those
benefits. That is really not what we want to do. that is not what we are encouraging in terms of
town government. I believe that everybody that is an elected official should have these benefits,
I think that everybody does work, I agree with you even though I do disagree with some people, I
do think everybody works extremely hard. I don't think that is where we need to save the money
and I do know that the Board has really scrutinized the medical plan. We could look at that
again. I know that we took a big hit last year with the self-insurance, I don't really know if going
forward that is going to still take place. But I believe that there are probably many other ways to
save money but I wouldn't save it on the back of the people who work for the town or on the
back of the elected officials. I mean, you really, the people that work for the town board earn
every dime that they are willing to put in to this. Which can sometimes be rather frustrating. So
I think you are definitely entitled to whatever benefits that the town can afford but certainly I
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wouldn't try cutting your benefits to ease up on some budget problems.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Thank you. We appreciate that support. We, a lot happens here
that no one sees and when everything works well nobody comes. This ~,hole meeting hall is
empty every two weeks and nobody sees what really goes on to make everything happen in this
town and the Town Board works hard, the Trustees work hard. All the elected officials. The
Highway Superintendent, the Assessors, certainly the Town Clerk and the Supervisor, so, and
when it works smoothly, you know, you don't hear from anyone. So thank you.
Benja Schwartz, Cutchogue
BENJA SCHWARTZ: I wouldn't say the whole meeting hall, there are a couple of seats like
Melanie. I have been here before, even when things are going smoothly. Benja Schwartz from
Cutchogue. Three things, two from the work session this morning. The first one, garbage.
There was some discussion about cutting back the pickup of garbage, the road side drop off.
Southold Town does not pick up household garbage from houses but we have a road side drop
off pickup program. Superintendent of Highways, Pete Harris said something, I don't know if I
am getting this exactly right but I think he said that 90% of the garbage in those cans comes from
houses and not from beaches or...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: He is talking about the blue barrels or the town barrels that get put
out, there are areas of the town that we maintain. Now it is split between Pete Harris and Jim
McMahon under DPW, the blue barrels that you see at the road ends are generally emptied by
Pete, the barrels that you see at the beaches are generally emptied by Jim. Those are put out for
people that are using the beach or people that are using that park or people that are using Love
Lane, where you might find them and what we are finding is that people are just using them as a
receptacle to through out that what they estimated at 80% of the garbage that comes in is just
simply household garbage.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And as you know, I live on one of those road ends...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And I have had second thoughts recently about the benefits of having a
barrel, a beach shouldn't be a place for people to bring garbage to. People who bring, who have
garbage on the beach, I think they can probably take it with them. Maybe we don't need the
program, maybe we do but getting back to what you were discussing this morning, I had asked
this morning how much that program costs the town. Pete Harris mentioned that the barrels cost
$55 a piece. Then Jim McMahon told me that we hadn't bought any barrels in the past couple of
years. So, you know, the overall cost you Scott Russell or Supervisor Russell mentioned maybe
we should look into privatization of the pickup of those barrels but before we do something like
that, I would like to know how much that program is costing the town. I am sure we could get an
estimate for the cost of the entire program, the trucks, the gasoline, the labor, the cans whatever
and if that could be broken down by location, then I think you would have something to look at
that maybe you could decide whether or not you really need to consider privatization.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't think privatization is going to be an answer. I happen to
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agree, I had actually mentioned a few years ago that we should probably start getting rid of the
barrels, certainly in the more remote locations which is what we have been doing. I had my head
handed to me by the public who, the problem is as soon as you start a service, people say cut
services, cut services to save money but there are peopl~ out there that don't view wh'at services
ought to be cut and what shouldn't. I had received a lot of public criticism ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: Do you have a problem with finding out how much the program costs?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, I actually was just going to get to that in a second. I think your
answer deserved a much broader answer than it got today and I will ask both gentlemen to
calculate their costs, which is gas, fuel, employees etc. On the total cost of collection of garbage,
the three times a week we are collecting it. It deserved a broader answer than the cost of the
barrel.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Maybe it was last year, maybe before that, there was discussion of choosing
a new name for the dump. The Cutchogue dump. I mean, I still like, I know we are not using
that anymore, there is a sign that says Southold Town transfer station, there is another sign that
says Southold Town solid waste management something, I don't know, it sounds like a lot bm to
me but anyway, I thought of a name, re, re, re, de. Sounds like an interesting place, re, re, re, de.
Why re, re, re, de? Because we have reduce, reuse, recycle, and finally dispose. And at least I
would like to see some signs at the dump to remind people of the priorities and those are
environmental and economic and some explanation for people of what the difference is between
reduction, reuse, recycling, why they are in that preferred order. I wrote a little poem about the
landfill, as you may or may not remember, I have been trying to get someone appointed and I
have even volunteered to do it myself to the unpaid position of recycling coordinator. I think
you, believe you made some appointments before I got here today and you make appointments
all the time but the position of recycling coordinate at the dump has been vacant for as long as I
can remember. I think that might help. I remember when the new facility opened, the first time I
drove in there the traffic pattern bothered me. It still bothers me. Very short poem. Below zero
miles per gallon, not to mention the waste of time. Twist my neck, car and truck wreck. Nobody
is talking about it. The traffic entering the transfer station crosses over the traffic exiting the
transfer station going in the first driveway. Then as you exit the second driveway, you again
cross over the incoming traffic. There is no need for that. The traffic going in could go in the
second driveway, drop their things, go out the first driveway and there would be no intersection,
no possibility of collision and maybe, but you would still need to turn your neck but I don't
figure you would have to twist it quite as far. Might make the elderly people a little more
comfortable going there. Very briefly, the Suffolk County Aqua cultural lease program was on
the agenda this morning, they talked about 110,000 acres in the bays and how they eliminated
areas on which there were conflicting uses, where there was eelgrass beds and eliminated the
foreshore within 1,000 feet of the mean high water mark, ending up with approximately 3,000
acres that could be leased out by Suffolk County. Suffolk County doesn't lease that out by
December of 2010, the law will expire and they will lose their right that they, their authority
from New York State to do that. It was described as a drop in the bucket, small scale
aquaculture program to grow oysters, clams and scallops, I am very much in support of this
program. I think for the most part, they are talking about growing oysters. But I don't know if
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this Town Board made a resolution tonight or not to approve, to support that program but what I
tried to tell you this morning and I don't believe I was heard, was I have two specific concerns
about that program. Number one, very nice that we have, you know we are avoiding conflict of
uses but I think we need some areas which we don't use, some mar/he reserves. They have been
established all over the world, they have been extremely important in not just maintaining but
and protecting and preserving but in recovering the health of marine estuaries and marine
habitats such as the Peconic Estuary, which we have here. I think we need to create some marine
reserves. After the work session this morning, I spoke with the representatives from the county,
they said that for example the Kevin, the bay keeper program, it doesn't lease but they actually
have some lands that were granted to them that might be available for a marine reserve. But I
think that is very important that we should have some areas for the wildlife, for the marine
wildlife. That is number one. Number two, the hard clams, the proposal for the aquaculture of
the hard clams is not only to grow clams but also to bring clams from polluted areas. Polluted
waters. To bring them here and let them drink our cleaner waters. I don't think we have any
clean waters left but cleaner waters until they are safe to eat. My concern is what happens to the
contamination and is there any chance of that contaminating our clean waters?
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Well, that is a valid question, you know bringing in contaminated
clams to purge themselves in our water, that is a valid question.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Well, that is called a relay system. That has been going on for a
long, long time.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And it goes on with our without the aqua cultural lease program. I
mean, that goes on every day.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I understand that but I am just, you know, since this lease program that is
going to be part of it, I think maybe it is an opportunity to examine that issue. Last thing, there
was an article recently on Hamptons.com which I highly recommend the Hamptons.com local
news section although it is south fork, it has some relevance to the north fork. There was an
article there about the recent decision by the federal court on the 1997 law that East Hampton
passed restricting high speed and vehicle ferries. East Hampton won the lawsuit, they won the
right to restrict the ferries. Viking ferry company was suing them and lost the lawsuit, I would
like to know why Southold Town hasn't passed any similar laws. Is, does Southold Town, is it
maybe going to consider such a law now that we know that it has passed legal examination?
And in addition to the ferry traffic, we have also got traffic coming from the west. I don't know
how many people are aware, I don't think the Suffolk Times covered the fact that in September
of 2009 Route 58 in Riverhead is scheduled to be intensified with a 5th lane, similar to what was
done in Southampton on Route 39, the main road into the Hamptons. According to the
supervisor, Linda Kabot, she said the 5th lane speeds up traffic and eliminates traffic jams but the
road design is insufficient. There are no shoulders, fire hydrants and telephone poles are close to
the curb. It is hard for pedestrians to cross, so we had to lower the speed limit to 35. I drive that
road regularly as part of a job and nobody drives 35 on that road. But how does that affect us?
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Well, there was testimony at the trial by the planning consultant in East Hampton Lisa Liquori,
she testified that the history of Long Island can almost be characterized as soon as you build
more roads going further east, development accompanies them to the point where roads get
congested almost as soon as they are opened~ passed the point of capacity. So, you know, that
road tums into Route 25, two lanes, goes from now four lanes, now it is going to be going from
five lanes to two lanes. How is that going to impact us? How is that going to impact downtown
Riverhead? I for one believe that even though that is Riverhead, there is going to be an affect on
Southold Town and if I had the authority I would do whatever I could to try and stop that.
Building that new lane. Thank you for your consideration.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: One thing about the shellfish program that you mentioned.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Yes.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: We had a long discussion today, a very good discussion with
Suffolk County about it and they clarified a lot of things which is why we reversed our stand on
the support for the aquaculture program. There are some aquaculture people in the room. I don't
know if they want to address your concerns just to clarify it so that people will understand the
issue.
Karen Rivara
KAREN RIVARA: Hi, Karen Rivara again. The one question about habitat and marine
reserves. Part of the program does allow for leasing for groups such as the Nature Conservancy,
who by the way also supports the program, so if they want to set aside an area for reserve they
can do that for the purpose of preserving shellfish population. So they could set aside an area
and plant it with shellfish. Most of the underwater land in the Peconic has been fanned in the
past. It is rather like fallow farmland, so it is not untouched, virgin underwater lands and it is
also, as with all the underwater land in the Peconic's is heavily impacted by watershed activities
that affect the water quality, sedimentation for instance. As far as they relay program is
concerned and this is, as you pointed out, has been going on for I believe 30 years now. the
clams that come from Raritan Bay come from an area that has been tested by the DEC, the clams
do not have heavy metals or any kind of organics in them that would pollute our waters or bring
that kind of material here. They are simply animals that have too high of a bacteria count in
them to make them acceptable for harvest and shipment direct to market. In other words, they
are not fit for human consumption because of the bacteria level in the animals. The animals can
purge themselves of the bacteria but when they do, they bind the bacteria in their feces and I
hope I can say that word here, and so it goes into the sediment and is bound in with the sediment,
so it is not being ejected from the clam and polluting the surrounding water by the rest or the
relay area. So, and most of them, I think all of them now are actually relayed in cages, so
anything that the clam might bring a disease that would affect clams and not humans, first of all
they are tested to make sure they don't have that disease but second of all, the animals are
entirely removed from our estuary when they are, after three weeks after they have cleansed. So
I don't know if that answers your question.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Benja, I will get back to one issue you mentioned with
regard to the landfill. I actually, you were looking for a new name. I kind of like the name
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money pit but as a practical reality it is a good facility but we, the building that you mentioned
before, that is part of our problem. We spent too much money redoing the building. And if the
Town Board at the time, prior to our getting here, had just listened to the workers that work
t'here, who had very good ide//s, we needed an investment down there, we needed to upgrade the
facility. We didn't need a $4,000,000 solution. And that is certainly part of the problem. Past
spending adds up. I am not a big fan of the facility either, I do like the fact that, you know
recycling is a little easier now. I think we could have accomplished that for a lot less money
when the decisions were being made years ago.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Well, the decisions that were made years ago where along the
lines of what Benja Schwartz said. And that is that they were designed to promote maximum
recycling. And the way we did it was to put in place a system that would provide free recycling
to a resident and the only cost to a resident is to get rid of the stuff that couldn't be recycled.
That was a tremendous, at the time, I think some other municipalities have done it but it was an
innovation at the time to try to reduce our waste stream and it was very successful. Southold
Town has one of the more successful reductions in the total amount of stuff that we have to ship
out of town. Shipping out of town may not be the best long term solution but we needed a
facility to do it. Some years ago the Town put a bond into place and we have now a facility that
allows us now to do it efficiently. I don't share the Supervisor's view of that. Of course, it
would be nice to look back and say I wish we could have done that cheaper. We can say that of
a lot of town government today. I think that building, the structure and the system that we have
in place does serve the needs of this town and the residents of this town and I think it does it in
an environmentally appropriate way.
Benja Schwartz
MR. SCHWARTZ: Tom, if recycling, reuse and reduction is still a priority, then I don't see that
being demonstrated by for one, the lack of a recycling coordinator or two, the oh, the set up
there, although, no, I appreciate that there is the ability to recycle. But I think we have fallen
backward in many regards and gone from being a leader in that area to being a laggard.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: It is true. We don't talk so much about it now, we haven't done
as much outreach or publicity and probably there is more that we could do in that direction. And
perhaps, we did have a very effective recycling coordinator for years, and perhaps the time is
appropriate for another one.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let me just say, also by the way, I don't know if you know this but
the landfill was Lord Byron's favorite subject for poetry as well. Melanie?
Melanie Norden
MS. NORDEN: Yeah, let me just say, I agree with you from an environmental standpoint but
we have lost a lot of ground and we need to gain ground in terms of really generating income
from our recyclables. And we are falling short, way short, there were lots of promises here about
how the dump was going to pay for itself, how the new trammel screen this, how the, you know,
none of that has really, we really need a task force to look at how many opportunities we are
losing or on the other hand, how much revenue we could generate. There are many, many
different schemes out there, we are falling way short of that. It is a money pit but the point is
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(inaudible) is going in than obviously you are attracting and that is going out. And we can do
everything that is great environmentally but if it is at the cost of the taxpayer and at significant
cost because we are not exploring opportunities to be competitive, to combine regionally; to look
at the ways ~e need to. Now there were many promises that we would be doing that this year
and all I can see is that we are just losing money.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, we...
MS. NORDEN: And now we are talking about another .25 on yellow bags and I know the
electorate is not going to be remotely happy with that initiative, so before we do that and before
we think of all of the expenses that we have approved in the last year, now we also find that
some of that stuffisn't going to work because the buildings aren't the right size or the foundation
or whatever, I still recommend that we look at the revenue generating capabilities of the landfill,
dump whatever you want to call it. Nomenclature has no significance. What has a significance
is if it is a competitive institution, is a competitive department of the town or do we need to close
the whole thing and ship everything out here? And I would love to hear from the Town Board, I
mean, not today but at some point that we have established some committee or some task force
to look at the ways in which we are losing money and not generating income. Because I think it
is really significant and it is a major expenditure year after year after year.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I appreciate that. We actually are doing quite a bit, we talked about
that at the work session today. We had a meeting with the solid waste coordinator just a few
days ago. That has been an issue. We actually are exploring opportunities to increase our
revenue. There are all sorts of issues to consider when you do that. Union contracts, all of those
things come on the table. We have to consider everything. That is exactly what we are doing.
With regard to recyclables, we have actually just cut a very nice deal with Islip in terms of the
terms of our paper and our cardboard. So you know, we are out shopping that market every day.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I would just like to add, there is tremendous price volatility in the
prices that you fetch for these things. Several years ago, there were very good prices for all
kinds of waste products. Today you can hardly get rid of the stuff. It costs money to get rid of
some of the things that we were actually being paid for before. These things go through cycles
and now we are in a down turn.
MS. NORDEN: Inaudible. I know there is quite a bit of money in (inaudible) and paper but
(inaudible) really be looking innovatively, combining and working with the county, combining
and working with other townships. And I just really recommend that, I am sure there are
(inaudible) concerns but I haven't really heard of that kind of forward thinking coming out of
that department.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: We will look into that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board on any issue?
Benja Schwartz
MR. SCHWARTZ: If I may just very briefly add and reply to what was said about the marine
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preserves. While I am appreciate that the lease program does allow that to happen, it doesn't
prevent that, it doesn't, it is not part of the program. There was discussion about maybe they
should have separate lease programs from each of the five towns, maybe not but maybe each of
the five towns should have a section of marine reserve. Not only, the fact that there has been
activity in the bays and that the bottom of the bay is similar to a farm field that has been
abandoned or fallow, is all the more reason to create a preserve. There have been preserves
created in New Zealand where it took 25 years for the preserves to establish themselves with a
natural balance of the marine organisms which not only supported the marine organisms within
the preserve but generated a surplus that was then available to the fisherman and the lobstermen
and all who have their pots on the edges of that reserve and they are catching mom and bigger
lobsters then they ever did and there is a lot people who don't like the way the regulations are
trying to control how many fish you can catch and well, you know, if we can just put aside some
places for the fish and the clams and then you know, we can have our places where we can take
them ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually have already done that. Only we refer to them as
spawner sanctuary's. And we have several mapped areas of Southold Town, of the bay, with the
Trustee's and Mark Terry that are declared spawner sanctuaries, where you can't get a mooring
permit, where you can't get a dock permit, where you can't get the types of intrusions that you
are allowed in the other parts of the bay. We already have that, we are in the process now...
MR. SCHWARTZ: I appreciated the efforts that have been made. I watch every day the marsh
islands die and the creek where I live has been closed to shell fishing for the last five years all
year along including 100 feet out from the mouth of the creek. Not that I ever ate the shellfish in
the creek, I prefer the ones in the bay anyway since I was a kid 40 years ago. But it would be
nice to know that there was some healthy, more healthy shellfish around and we didn't have to
worry about it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just for everybody's sake, I have talked more about aquaculture in
the past two weeks than I ever thought I would in my life. Would anybody else like to comment
on any issue of mutual interest?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: At the beginning of the meeting, the Supervisor mentioned the
passing of Ruth Oliva, who was a long term public servant in the Town of Southold. Her family
is planning a tribute to Ruth Oliva, one week from tomorrow. That is July 8th, at the Horton-
Mathie Funeral Home in Greenport. It will be, tentatively scheduled from 3-5 and many of you
out there who knew Ruth might want to be there.
JUSTICE EVANS: It is not definite yet, so you should check with someone in Town Hall.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You can check back with us and we will certainly have the
information as we get it. Motion to adjourn?
Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjoumed at 5:50
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RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
SECONDER: Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES: Rutand, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell