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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-07/14/2009ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
MARRIAGE OFFICER
RECORDS MANAGEMENT OFFICER
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION OFFICER
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEET1NG
Town Hall, 53095Main Road
PO Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Fax (631)765-6145
Telephone:(631) 765-1800
southoldtown.no~hfork.net
MINUTES
July 14, 2009
7:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, July 14. 2009 at the Meeting
Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, NY. Supervisor Russell opened the meeting at 7:30 PM with
the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Call to Order
7:30 PM Meeting called to order on July 14, 2009 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25,
Southold, NY.
Attendee Name
William Ruland
Vincent Orlando
Albert Krupski Jr.
Thomas H. Wickham
Louisa P. Evans
Scott Russell
Elizabeth A. Neville
Martin D. Firmegan
I. Reports
DPW iM~t~ly Report
jUne 2~09
HRC Monthly Report
June 2009
Organization
Town of Southold
IoWn 0f Southold
Town of Southold
Town of Southold
Town of Southold
Town of Southold
Town of Southold
Town of Southold
Title Status
Councilman Present
Councilman Present
Councilman Present
Councilman Late
Justice Present
Supervisor Present
Town Clerk Present
Town Attorney Late
Arrived
Judge Bruer Monthly Report
June 2009
4. Trustees Monthly Report
June 2009
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5. Town Clerk Monthly Report
June 2009
II. Public Notices
1. Northeast Nurseries
Donation of Trees
NYS Liquor License Renewals
Cherry Way Restaurant Inc d/b/a Pepi's, 400 Old Main Rd., Southold
Joseph Paul Winery, Inc., 18910 Middle Rd., Cutchogue
Villa Michelangelo Italian Restaurant & Pizzeria Inc. d/b/a Original Michelangelo, 10095 Rt 25,
Store 3, Mattituck
Summer Showcase Concert Series
Schedule
IlL Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 A.M. - Trustees & Mark Terry
LWRP Reviews/Compliance Inspections
2. 9:30 A.M. - Sanford Hanauer & ARC
Commercial Construction Applications
3. 9:50 Am - Peter Harris
GFD request to use Strawberry Fields
4. 10:00 A.M. - Dredge Committee/Policy
LWRP Dredge Windows
5. 10:30 A.M. ~ John Cushman & Noah Nadelson, MUNISTAT, Inc.
multi-year budgeting
6. 11:00 A.M. ~ John Cushman
Budget, especially retirement costs
7. 11:30 A.M. - Phillip Beltz
- Homeless Application
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- Youth Bureau update
- Public Discussion Forums
8. 12:00 P.M. - Melissa Spiro, Tamara Sadoo & Heather Lanza
Open Development Area
9. Re-Zoning Request
10. Establishment of Recreational Marine Fishing Licenses
11. LUNCH
12. Code Committee
Set Date re: Walz decision
13.
14.
15.
16.
17.
18.
19.
20.
21.
Unpaid Bill to Vendor for Gravel
Set Date for Local Laws
Permits & Licenses for Solid Waste Disposal
Special Events
1:30 P.M. - EXECUTIVE SESSION - Melissa Spiro
Possible property acquisition & Discussion of value
Executive Session
Labor Contract Negotiations
Executive Session
3 Litigation matters
Tax Cashier Position
Appointment of CAC Chairperson
Town Clerk to Attend Cornell Clerks' Institute
Pledge to the Flag
Supervisor Scott Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise and join in the Pledge of Allegiance to Flag. And now 1
would like to ask anyone that would like to address the Town Board on any issue as it appears on
the agenda.
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ODenine Statements
Tom Skabry, President CSEA
TOM SKABRY: Tom Skabry, CSEA President. I just have, I notice here on resolution 589 is
accepting the letter of intent to retire from Bill Zebroski from the Rec center. I have heard
rumors and I hope it is not true, this might not be the appropriate place, but supposedly someone
from management has directed him that if he chooses to rescind this, that he does not have to do
in writing, verbally would be fine, if that is the case, I hope that whoever did do this from the
management side and I will leave it to you folks to find out who it is, to instruct them in the
correct way that it should be done. The other comment that I would like to make on resolution
599, dealing with today's fiscal issues as the Town Board says we are in this year and possibly
next year, I would strongly urge that the Town Board consider placing this in such a way that it
would be beneficial to the entire townspeople and not just necessarily the Youth Bureau. In my
personal opinion, youth bureau should really be focused as a secondary level of importance. I
think we have other issues, I understand this may very well be earmarked for substance abuse but
why not just leave it in the bank and collecting interest and use those interest for other reasons or
you can use the interest moneys and apply that towards use for whatever you wish. Thank you
that is all I have.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, just to clarify that, that is actually a donation that was
received years ago for the specific purpose of substance abuse in youth. The reason we
appropriated, intend on appropriating that now is we found a good marriage for that. We can't
use it for the general services or the general appropriations for the town. It is placed in trust for a
reason. It needs to be used for the earmarked donated purpose.
MR. SKABRY: Can we use it for the DARE program?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We don't need it for the DARE program, we actually have offset
from Suffolk County. The DARE program is a joint partnership between the town and the
county. What would I use it for? Payroll?
MR. SKABRY: Use it for some services for buying the handouts that they give to the kids ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think Suffolk County pays for those. So, I can't use it to pay the
payroll, which is the driving, expensive cost of the DARE program, the officers. But this was
donated for a specific purpose and it was placed in trust for the purpose of youth substance
abuse. And I can't use it for any other purpose. We can't use it for any other purpose.
MR. SKABRY: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board?
Melanie Norden, Greenport
MELANIE NORDEN: Good evening, Melanie Norden, Greenport. Can you explain resolution
587? Actually before you do, I have frequently requested that for projects like this or for
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anything else that is in the resolutions, that the projects be more thoroughly defined, particularly
the fiscal impact and particularly in this economy. So this is more than vague. Having described
the landfill last, two weeks ago as a money pit, Scott, I would like to find out a little bit more
about this resolution.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: There is an organization that is interested in assembling, I believe,
about 10 megawatts of energy production on site as a solar collection center and a combination
methane gas, to capture the methane gas. This letter is merely allowing them to study the
feasibility of the site.
MS. NORDEN: With no town investment?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No investment of any kind. In fact, no town commitment. It is
merely a feasibility study that they are doing on their own as a private organization. They have
actually reached out to five east end towns, for this adaptive muse of our capped landfills.
MS. NORDEN: So it won't require the town at any future point to hire them to do anything?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: None whatsoever.
MS. NORDEN: Because there are many east end providers of services. So there is no
agreement that if they do the study ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No. It is merely giving them permission to use our site for a
feasibility study and that is it. Nothing in the future, this encumbers us to nothing, no
commitments in the future with this organization.
MS. NORDEN: So what is the feasibility study and will them be any change in the terrain or
anything else?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, those are the things that they are going to have to evaluate.
They are going to have to look at the cap, the depth of the cap, the ability to locate solar
collection photo-voltaic cells on site. The ability to produce methane gas at an accelerated rate,
capture that methane gas. That is part of the electric generation facility. They have to look at the
engineering, the cost involved, they have to look at the ability to get LIPA on board. Just
because you are producing electric doesn't necessarily mean that LIPA is going to ....
MS. NORDEN: So they initiated this, not the town?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, they came to us. They came to us and they went to the other
five east end towns. It is not too dissimilar to other groups in the past that have come to the
town, asking for permission to utilize the site in a feasibility study. One included the site in RFP
for solar collection. That was (inaudible), they didn't get the RFP bid from LIPA. But it is not
too dissimilar. The idea here is to utilize the site for clean energy alternatives and perhaps
generate revenue in terms of long term rent and taxes.
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MS. NORDEN: Well, that is the feasibility study. But I mean, will the town have the resources
to pursue this kind of a project once the feasibility study ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We wouldn't. It is the private group's investment. They have their
own investors. We wouldn't spend a dollar. All we would be is the host. We would cut a lease
agreement and then they would spend all of the money on site. That is if it is feasible.
MS. NORDEN: Right. But you would be providing the land?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We would be providing the land, with a lease.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Land lease.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Land lease.
MS. NORDEN: Right. And any concept of what the finances of that would involve?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is what they are doing now. They are determining that now.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: They said it was approximately a $60,000,000 project. This is all
high tech, solar panels. We are hoping they are successful with this feasibility study and they
build that there because it will generate huge revenue for us as a land lease.
MS. NORDEN: Well, we don't know any of the implications in terms of health or anything else,
so we can't draw on any hopeful comments until it really has been analyzed.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Well, that is what the feasibility study is doing.
MS. NORDEN: It is really premature now.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Absolutely premature.
MS NORDEN: My concern just is that there are lots of other organizations and once you
undertake a feasibility study, I just want to make absolutely sure that this does not in any way
encumber the town to go forward in phase II or phase III ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Absolutely none.
MS. NORDEN: Right. So that we could also, if there were another company interested or other
companies interested who could provide a better opportunity for the town, this allows everything
to be perfectly open and in no way...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And we have already had other organizations come to the town in
the past, so this is yet another group that has shown an interest in the adaptable use of that site.
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COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: This is the third person coming forward with this and we sent
him to the DEC because they need to get permits, and they never seem to come back after that.
MS. NORDEN: Right.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: So we are hopeful this company is.
MS. NORDEN: Great. Okay. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board on any of the
resolutions? The agenda items? (No response) Hearing none.
V. Resolutions
2009-584
CA TEGOR Y: Audit
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Approve Audit 7/14/09
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated
July 14~ 2009.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-584
[~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [~ [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter I~ [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-585
cA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Set Meeting
Town Clerk
Set Next Meeting 7/28/09 4.'30 Pm
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 4:30 P. M..
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-585
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulaqd Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [3 []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-573
Tabled 6/30/2009 4:30 PM
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Dredging Halls Creek (Mud Creek)
WHEREAS the Town of Southold has requested the County of Suffolk to dredge a navigation
channel in Halls Creek (Mud Creek), Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS the County of Suffolk proposes to do said dredging of Halls Creek (Mud Creek) in
the Town of Southold at a nominal cost to the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS in order to accomplish said dredging, plans, specifications, agreements and other
documents must be executed on behalf of the Town of Southold; and
WHEREAS this approval shall remain in effect for the period of the required permits and any
renewals thereof; now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute all necessary plans and specifications~ surplus
material area agreements~ assurances to the County of Suffolk, license and/or dredging
permit applications to Federal and State Agencies and any and all other documents that may be
required to accomplish said dredging work, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-573
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted ~ Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr, Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded
2009-560
Tabled 6/30/2009 4.'30 PM
CA TEGOR Y: Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT: Building Department
Training
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Zoning Inspector Damon Rallis to attend mandatory training on Existing Buildings. The
training will be in Bab¥1on~ on July 2L 2009. All expenses for registration and travel to be a
legal charge to the 2009 Building Department budget (meetings and seminars).
· / Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-560
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-586
cA TEGOR Y:
DEP~4 R TMEN T:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Community Development
2009 Southold Town Shellfish Program
Fiscal Impact:
2009 Southold Town Shellfish Program at Cornell Cooperative Extension, Cedar Beach Hatchery,
A. 8830. 4. 400.1 O0
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an Agreement with Cornell Cooperative Extension in
connection with the 2009 Southold Town Shellfish Program, in the amount of $18,000 for the
term January 1, 2009 through December 31, 2009, all in accordance with the approval of the
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Town Attorney.
· / Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-586
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
FI Adopted as Amended William Ruined Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] E] [] []
El fabled Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
Statement re resolution 586
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Betty, I will recuse myself as a family member is working there
now.
2009-587
cA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Landfill Misc.
Town Clerk
Letter of Intent for Feasibility Study of Solar at Landfill
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute a letter of interest permitting New Age Energy, Inc.
to conduct a feasibility study for a solar farm at the Southold Town Landfill, subject to the
approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-587
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] 13 [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-588
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Surplus Equip - Non Usable
Town Clerk
Used Computer Equipment - Destroy
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold authorized the Town Clerk to advertise
for the sale of Used Equipment, and
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WHEREAS, no bids were received, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares the Used
Equipment as unusable and authorizes the destruction of same.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-588
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appl Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-589
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPA R TMENT:
Retirement/Resignation
Accounting
Intent to Retire - William Zebroski
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the letter of intent
to retire of William Zebroski from the position of Custodial Worker I in the
Department of Public Works, effective July 31, 2009.
/ Vote Record ~ Resolution RES-2009~589
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Voter [] r'] E] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [~ [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H Wickham Initiator [] F1 [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P, Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-590
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Budget Modification - Deputy Emergency Prep Coord
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
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From:
A.3640.1.200.100
Emergency Preparedness, P.S.
Part-time Employees
Regular Earnings
$ 3,000
To:
A.3640.4.400.200 Emergency Preparedness, C.E.
Contracted Services
Deputy Coordinator $ 3,000
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-590
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-591
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Bid Acceptance
Town Clerk
Reject Bid on Compost Bldg. Foundation
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds resolution 2009-
534 which reads as follows~ in its entirety:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rejects the bid of
Debut Concrete and General Contractor to construct a concrete foundation at the compost facility
in Cutchogue at a cost of $29,531., all in accordance with the plans and specifications provided
by the Town Engineer and with the approval of the Town Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-591
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmad Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Alberl Krupski Jr Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-592
CATEGORY: Bid Acceptance
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DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Reject All Bids Received for SWMD Found
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rejects any and all bids
received for the construction of a concrete foundation at the compost facility in Cutchogue.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-592
I~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Seconder I~ [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-593
CA TEGOR Y: Refund
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Grant a Partial Refund of $300.00 to Steve and Olga Tenedios for Zoning Board of Appeals Permit No.
6315
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants a partial refund of
$300.00 to Steve and Olga Tenedios for Zoning Board of Appeals Permit No. 6315 at the
recommendation of the Zoning Board because the application was withdrawn, the application is
now void and no other processing to reactivate the file may follow.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-593
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rultmd Voter [] El [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Kmpski Jr Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-594
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Mod Assessors
Budget Modification
Assessors
Fiscal Impact:
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This budget modification is to cover the expenses for our certiorari attorney.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the Whole Town~
General Fund 2009 budget as follows:
To:
A1355.4.500.100
Board of Assessors
Fee for Service
Legal Counsel
$2000.00
From:
A1355.4.500.200 Board of Assessors
Fee for Service
Appraisals $2000.00
~' Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-594
1~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rula~d Voter I~ [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter I~ [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr Voler [] [] [] []
UI Withdrawn Thomas lt. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder ~] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter ~ [] [] []
2009-595
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Fishers Island Ferry District
FIFD Budget Mod
Fiscal Itnpact:
FROM: As of June 30. 2009, only expended 16% of budget line.
TO: Additional unanticipated costs for reprogramming of ticketing and reservation systems including the
kiosks and also the printing of new schedules for the new rates and summer schedule for the 2009 PEAK
season.
Unanticipated unemployment insurance claim which was extended into 2009.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 Fishers
Island Ferry District budget as follows:
FROM:
SM 5710.4.000.300 Fuel Oil Vessels $20,000.
TO:
SM 5710.4.000.000 Ferry Operations, Other $12,000
SM 9050.8.000.000 Unemployment Insurance $8,000
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-595
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Initiator [] [] [] []
Fl Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
FI Tabled Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisoes Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-597
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPA R TMENT:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
Land Preservation
USDA-NRCS 2009 FRPP Awarded Grant $ 771,500
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute Cooperative Agreement No. 73-2C31-9-042 between
the United States of America Commodit~ Credit Corporation and the Town of Southold for
the implementation of the United States Department of Agriculture - Natural Resources
Conservation Service (USDA-NRCS) 2009 Federal Farm and Ranch Lands Protection Program
(FRPP) awarded grant in the amount of$771,150.00, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-597
[~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H, Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter ~ [] [] []
2009-596
CA TE GO R Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Retiremenl/Resignation
Accounting
Intent to Retire Barbara Rudder
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the intent to retire
of Barbara Rudder from the position of Administrative Assistant in the Accounting
Department, effective August 10, 2009.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-596
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Voter I~ [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Kmpski Jr. Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter I~ [] [] []
r-I Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] [3
2009-598
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Budget Modification
Land Preservation
Budget Mod Laurel Lake Preserve Parking Area Grant
Fiscal Impact:
The Town received a grant award of $97,5OO from NYS Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation for
the Laurel Lake Preserve Area. The Laurel Lake Preserve Area is made up of properties owned by New
York State, Suffolk County, the Suffolk County Water Authority and the Town of Southold. The Town is
making improvements for preservation purposes within the Laurel Lake Preserve Area. Improvements
included within lhe grant award will be funded by the awarded grant. The current Town budget includes
the $97,500 grant award as a line item within the Community Preservation Fund Expenditure budget
Worksheet. The $97,500 is a grant award, not CPF generated revenue. Parking area improvements in
the amount of $1,085 are proposed for a Town owned property within the Laurel Lake Preservation Area
which was not purchased with Community Preservation Funds. The grant award is not CPF generated
revenue; therefore, $1,085 of the grant award is being transferred to the General Fund Whole Town
budget to ensure that CPF funds are not appropriated to the improvements' on Town land which was not
purchased with CPF funds.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the Whole Town~
General Fund 2009 budget as follows:
Community Preservation Fund
Decrease Revenues
H3.3097.20 Capital Grant, NYS Parks -- Laurel Lake Grant
$1085
Decrease Appropriations
H3.8710.2.400.300 Land Preservation, Capital Outlay, Laurel Lake Improvements
$1085
General Fund Whole Town
Increase Revenues
A.3089.35 Miscellaneous State Aid, NYS Parks -- Laurel Lake Grant
$1085
Increase Appropriations
A.1620.2.500.670 Buildings and Grounds, Other Capital Outlay, Laurel Lake Improvements
$1085
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-598
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
I~ Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] El
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans initiator [~ [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter ~ [] [] []
2009-599
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPA R TMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Budget Modification - Revenue for Youth
Fiscal Impact:
The Town has been holding the sum of $1,470.30 in "substance abuse committee" donations since the
Jean Cochran administration in the Trust and Agency Fund. The Town Board shouM consider
transferring these donations to the General Fund and appropriating same for the Youth Bureau to
promote substance abuse prevention for local youth.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the transfer of
the $1~470.30 earmarked "substance abuse committee" in the Trust and Agency Fund from
the Trust and Agency Fund to the General Fund Whole Town's Gifts and Donations
revenue aecounh A.2705.40 - Other Donations~ and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies 2009 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
Increase:
Revenues:
A.2705.40 Gifts and Donations, Other Donations $1,470.30
Appropriations:
Increase:
A.7310.4.600.100
Youth Program, C.E., Youth Program Activities
$1,470.30
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009w599
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albeit Kmpski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn
Thomas H Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appl
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-600
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Budget Modification
Town Attorney
TB Budget Modification
Fiscal Impact:
for the purpose of consulting services provided in connection with the Bombara Coastal Erosion
Management Permit Appeal
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A. 1990.4.100.100 Contingencies $1,500.00
T._.qo:
A. 1010.4.500.300 Town Board, Environmental $1,500.00
Consultants
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-600
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Initiator [] [] [] Fl
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Seconder ~l [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] FI [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [3 [] []
2009-601
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Employment - Town
Accounting
Resignation of Part-Time Account Clerk Marianne Sawicki
July 14, 2009 Page 19
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
Marianne Sawicki from the position of part-time Account Clerk in the Town Clerks
Department, effective July 24, 2009.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-601
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas Il Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scotl Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-602
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMENT:
Attend Seminar
Town Clerk
Grant Permission to Town Clerk and Records Management Assistant to Attend a New York State
Archives Seminar on Preservation of Historical Records in Hauppauge, NY,, on duly 15, 2009
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Town
Clerk Elizabeth Neville and Records Management Assistant Stace¥ Norklun to attend a New
York State Archives Seminar on Preservation of Historical Records in Hauppauge~ New
York~ on July 15~ 2009. Expenses for travel to be a legal charge to the 2009 Town Clerk budget
A. 1410.4.600.300 (meetings and seminars).
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-602
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Del~ated Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Initiator [] (21 [] []
0 Supervisor's Appl Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
23.
Comments regarding resolution/1602
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Now is a good opportunity to mention, you know, we are under a
really, really, in a tight fiscal climate. Betty Neville, our Town Clerk, Elizabeth Neville, has
actually been traveling to places as far away as Comell to still participate in her regional
organization of the Clerk's Association. She is doing it all at her own expense. We actually had
a meeting today to discuss the issue with her. I think at this time we should just recognize Betty
and thank her for her selflessness in recognizing the importance of her mission, so she is a better
clerk for everybody her in Southold Town and at the same time, not putting any undue financial
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pressure on the Town and I want to thank her personally and I know the Board does.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Thank you, Betty.
2009-603
CA TEGOR Y:
DEP.4 R TMEN T:
Support Resolution
Town Clerk
Homelessness Prevention Act Agreement
WHEREAS, Peconic Community Council, Inc., a non-profit organization, is submitting an
application to the County of Suffolk Department of Social Services in response to a Request for
Applications for Homelessness Prevention and Rapid Re-Housing Services funding under the
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.
WHEREAS, the Peconic Community Council has extensive experience with the operation of
homeless programs on the East End of Long Island and the County of Suffolk intends to award
only one grant in the amount $478,330 for all of the Eastern Long Island. The Town Board has
determined that it is in the interest of its residents to panner with East End municipalities in
support of Peconic Community Council to apply for these funds to address and prevent
homelessness within the region.
RESOLVED, that the Town Board adopts this resolution in support of the application by the
Peconic Community Council in partnership with other East End municipalities. Nothing herein
shall authorize any expenditure by the Town in conjunction with this application except that the
Town Board authorizes the use of staff time of the Office of Housing and Community
Development and the Department of Human Services at the direction of the respective
department heads for the purpose of providing for the delivery of services to the residents of the
Town under this grant and to any other staff necessary to effectuate the agreement
RESOLVED, that the Town Board hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Scott Russell to
sign the Partnership Memorandum of Understanding {inter-municipal agreement) which
will formally ratify the individual Towns~ Villages and Authority's involvement if the grant
is awarded to the Peeonic Community Council for this project pursuant to the provisions
stated in the Parmership Memorandum of Understanding in a form agreed to by the Town
Attorney.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-603
I~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulend Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter ~ E] [] []
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2009-604
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPA R TMENT:
Committee Appointment
Town Clerk
Appoint dames C. Eckert as Chairman of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints James C. Eckert
as Chairman of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council, effective immediately.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-604
1~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
13 Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] 'Fabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H Wickham Initiator 1~ [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-605
CA TE GOR Y:
DEP,4 R TMENT:
Budget Modification
Accounting
Budget Modification/Engagement-Multi-Year Budget
Fiscal Impact:
Provide an appropriation for and to engage Munistat for multi-year financial planning services as
discussed with the Town Board at their duly 14 worksession.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2009 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1990.4.100.100
Contingent, C.E.
Unallocated Contingencies $ 6,000
To:
A.1310.4.500.600 Accounting & Finance, C.E.
Multi-Year Financial Planning $ 6,000
and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby em, aces Munistat Services~
Inc. to provide multi-year financial planning services for the Town of Southold in
accordance with their proposal dated June 23~ 2009 at a fee not to exceed $6~000 which shall
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be a legal charge to the Accounting and Finance Department's 2009 Multi-Year Financial
Planning budget, A. 1310.4.500.600.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-605
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
Fl Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appl Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[3 Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-606
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Legislation
Town Attorney
Set Public Hearing on "A Local Lav~ in Relation to the Amendment of Requirements for Issuance and
Duration of Permits and Licenses for Solid Waste Disposal"
WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
County, New York, on the 14th day of July, 2009, a Local Law entitled "A Local Law in
relation to the Amendment of Requirements for Issuance and Duration of Permits and
Licenses for Solid Waste Disposal" now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on the
aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, on the
llth day of August, 2009 at 7:32 p.m. at which time all interested persons will be given an
opportunity to be heard.
The proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to the Amendment of
Requirements for Issuance and Duration of Permits and Licenses for Solid Waste
Disposal" reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2009
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A Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to the Amendment of Requirements for
Issuance and Duration of Permits and Licenses for Solid Waste Disposal".
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Purpose - To increase the duration of permits for solid waste disposal from one year to
two.
II. Chapter 233 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
{}233-4. Fees; issuance and duration of permits and licenses.
C. Issuance and duration of permits and/or licenses. All permits and/or
licenses provided for in this article shall be issued by the Town Clerk.
Residential permits shall be valid c ....... I~A
t~-embes~ from the date of purchase until December 31 of the
following calendar year. Commercial permits shall be valid for c,ne two
years from the .......... issue date.
III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-606
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
0 Adopted as Amended William Ruled Voter [] [] [] []
0 Defeated Vincent Orlando Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Supcrvisor's Appt Thomas H Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter 1~ 0 [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter ~ 0 [] []
2009-607
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Strawberry Fields
Town Clerk
July 14, 2009 Page 24
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Grant Permission to the Greenport Fire Department to Use Strawberry Fields in Mattituck for a Carnival
on August 5 through 9, 2009 (Wednesday through Sunday)
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the
Greenport Fire Department to use Strawberry Fields in Mattituek for a Carnival on
August 5 through 9~ 2009 (Wednesday through Sunday). Set-up on August 4, 2009 and
breakdown on August 10, 2009, subject to the conditions of the Town Board and the approval of
the Town Attorney. Applicant must file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of
Insurance naming the Town of Southold and the County of Suffolk as additional insured.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-607
El Adopted yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rulmd Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H, Wickham Voter El [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Voter El [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter El [] [] []
2009-608
CA TEGOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Public Service
Town Attomey
Oppose Recreational Marine Fishing Licenses
WHEREAS, the New York State Assembly is considering establishing a Recreational Marine
Fishing License in A. 159-B as part of a fund raising mechanism to charge additional fees, and
WHEREAS, the imposition of such a license on waters within the jurisdiction of the Town of
Southold unlawfully intrudes on the Town's patent power to regulate its waterways established
under the Andros Patent and attempts to limit the rights of the residents of this Town to establish
their own permits and fees for fishing, and
WHEREAS, the law seeks to raise money for the State of New York by dumping another permit
responsibility on the Town Clerk without any compensation, and constitutes another of the
unfunded state mandates that is undermining the ability of a town to control its finances, now,
Therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby formally opposes the
adoption of A.159-B as it relates to Recreational Marine Fishing Licenses and hereby
directs the Town Clerk to send copies of this resolution to the legislators in this district and
to the adioinin~ towns of Shelter Island and Riverhead.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-608
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Rultmd Voter [] [] [] []
[] Del~ated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] 'Fabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
30.
Comments regarding resolution # 608
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am just worried that we soft-pedaled our opposition in that
wording.
JUSTICE EVANS: I don't think I like the wording too much but ....
2009-611
CA TE GOR Y:
DEPARTMENT:
Attend Seminar
Town Clerk
Nassau/Suffolk Town Clerk Business Meeting
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Town
Clerk Elizabeth Neville and Account Clerk Marianne Sawieki to attend a Nassau/Suffolk
Town Clerk Business seminar on Hosted Document Management Solutions by General
Code Publishers Corporation in Orient~ New York~ on June 25~ 2009. Expenses for two (2)
meals to be a legal charge to the Town Clerk 2009 budget A. 1410.4.600.200(meetings and
seminars).
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-611
[] Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruland Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] Tabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] 12] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter F~ [3 [] []
2009-609
CA TE GOR Y:
D EPA R TMENT:
Seqra
Land Preservation
P&E LLC (Peter Harbes) SEQRA
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WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to purchase a development rights
easement on a certain parcel of property owned by P&E LLC pursuant to the provisions of
Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands) of the Code of
the Town of Southold. Said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-120.-3-11.11. The
address is 5655 Aldrich Lane. The property is located in the A-C zoning district and is on the
westerly side of Aldrich Lane, approximately 1200 feet south from the intersection of Aldrich
Lane and Sound Avenue in Laurel, New York. The proposed acquisition is for a development
rights easement on a part of the property consisting of approximately 18± acres (subject to
survey) of the 22.17± acre parcel. The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided
survey acceptable to the Land Preservation Committee and the property owner. The purchase
price for the easement is $65,000 (sixty-five thousand dollars) per buildable acre plus acquisition
costs; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that this action be classified as an
Unlisted Action pursuant to the SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6NYCRR 617.1 et. Seq.; be it
further
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Town of Southold is the only
involved agency pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations; be it further
RESOLVED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Short Environmental Form
prepared for this project is accepted and attached hereto; and, be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds no significant impact
on the environment and declares a negative declaration pursuant to SEQRA Rules and
Regulations for this action.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-609
I~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruled Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Defeated
[] Tabled Vincent Orlando Seconder [] [] [] []
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supe~visor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter [] [] [] []
[] T~,x Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter ~ [] [] []
[] Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
2009-610
CATEGOR~
DEPARTMEN~
Property Acquisition Purchase
Land Preservation
P&E LLC (Peter Harbes) Elect to Purchase
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the question of
the purchase of a development rights easement on a certain parcel of property owned by P&E
LLC on the 14th day of July, 2009, pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 17 (Community
Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands Preservation) of the Town Code, at
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which time all interested parties were given the opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS, said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-120.-3-11.11. The address is
5655 Aldrich Lane. The property is located in the A-C zoning district and is on the westerly side
of Aldrich Lane, approximately 1200 feet south from the intersection of Aldrich Lane and Sound
Avenue in Laurel, New York; and
WHEREAS, the development rights easement comprises a part of the property consisting of
approximately 184- acres (subject to survey) of the 22.174- acre parcel. The exact area of the
development rights easement is subject to a survey acceptable to the Land Preservation
Committee and the property owner; and
WHEREAS, the purchase price for the easement is $65,000 (sixty-five thousand dollars) per
buildable acre plus acquisition costs. The easement will be acquired using Community
Preservation Funds; and
WHEREAS, the property is listed on the Town's Community Preservation Project Plan as
property that should be preserved due to its open space agricultural and acquifer recharge values;
and
WHEREAS, the purchase of the development rights on this property is in conformance with the
provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands
Preservation) of the Town Code, and
WHEREAS, the proposed action has been reviewed pursuant to Chapter 268 (Waterfront
Consistency Review) of the Town Code and Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP)
and the LWRP Coordinator has recommended that this action is consistent with the LWRP; and
WHEREAS, the Land Preservation Committee has reviewed the application for the acquisition,
and recommends that the Town Board acquire the development rights easement; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board deems it in the best public interest that the Town of Southold
purchase the development rights on this agricultural land; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby elects to purchase a
development rights easement on agricultural land owned by P&E LLC pursuant to the
provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural
Lands Preservation) of the Code of the Town of Southold. Said property is identified as
part of SCTM #1000-120.-3-11.11. The address is 5655 Aldrich Lane. The property is located
in the AoC zoning district and is on the westerly side of Aldrich Lane, approximately 1200 feet
south from the intersection of Aldrich Lane and Sound Avenue in Laurel, New York. The
development rights easement comprises a part of the property consisting of approximately 184-
acres (subject to survey) of the 22.17± acre parcel. The exact area of the development rights
easement is subject to a survey acceptable to the Land Preservation Committee and the property
owner. The purchase price for the easement is $65,000 (sixty-five thousand dollars) per buildable
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acre plus acquisition costs. The easement will be acquired using Community Preservation Funds.
Town funding for this purchase is in conformance with the provisions of Chapter 17
(Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands Preservation) of the Town
Code of the Town of Southold. The proposed action has been reviewed pursuant to Chapter 268
(Waterfront Consistency Review) of the Town Code and the Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program (LWRP) and the Town Board has determined that this action is consistent with the
LWRP.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-610
I~ Adopted Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
[] Adopted as Amended William Ruled Voter [] [] [] []
[] Defeated Vincent Orlando Voter [] [] [] []
[] 'Fabled
[] Withdrawn Albert Krupski Jr. Voter [] [] [] []
[] Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Initiator [] [] [] []
[] Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P. Evans Seconder [] [] [] []
El Rescinded Scott Russell Voter [] [] [] []
34.
o
Comments regarding resolution # 610
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, and I want to thank the Harbes family. They have been regular
participants in the preservation efforts that we have made and it is always nice to be able to do
business with them.
VI. Public Hearings
Motion To: Motion to recess to Public Hearing
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared
Recessed in order to hold a public hearing.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER: Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
Amend Resolution No. 2009-541 by Changing the Public Hearing Date and Time to July
14, 2009 at 7:32 P.M.
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares the I~ublic hearin~
on the development rights easement on agricultural land of P&E LLC is hereby declared
CLOSED at 5:53 PM.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to the provisions
of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands) of the Town
Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets Tuesday~ July 14~ 2009 at 7:32
p.m.~ Southold Town Hall~ 53095 Main Road~ Southold~ New York as the time and place for
a public hearing for the purchase of a development rights easement on property, owned by
P&E LLC. Said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-120.-3-11.11. The address is 5655
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Aldrich Lane. The property is located in the A-C zoning district and is on the westerly side of
Aldrich Lane, approximately 1200 feet south from the intersection of Aldrich Lane and Sound
Avenue in Laurel, New York. The proposed acquisition is for a development rights easement on
a part of the property consisting of approximately 18± acres (subject to survey) of the 22.17±
acre parcel.
The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided survey acceptable to the Land
Preservation Committee and the property owner. The pumhase price is $65,000 (sixty-five
thousand dollars) per buildable acre for the 18± acre easement plus acquisition costs. The
easement will be acquired using Community Preservation Funds.
The property is listed on the Town's Community Preservation Project Plan as property that
should be preserved due to its open space agricultural and aquifer recharge area values; and
FURTHER NOTICE is hereby given that a more detailed description of the above mentioned
parcel of land is on file in Land Preservation Department, Southold Town Hall Annex, 54375
Route 25, Southold, New York, and may be examined by any interested person during business
hours.
I have a notice that it was published as a legal in the local newspaper and it has also appeared on
the Town Clerk's bulletin board outside. We have already reviewed the environmental, taken the
environmental resolution a few minutes ago.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on this
public hearing? Melissa?
MELISSA SPIRO, LAND PRESERVATION COORDINATOR: Hi, Melissa Spiro, Land
Preservation Coordinator. This hearing, as Councilman Wickham said, is for the town to
purchase development rights easement for agricultural purposes on approximately 18 acres of the
22 acre farm. The landowner, Peter Harbes, is a third generation farmer. The farm contains
prime agricultural soils and is adjacent to and in the vicinity of other active farms. The
landowner is a repeat development rights seller, having sold in 2006 the development rights
easement on 35 acres to the town on a farm he owns directly to the south to this farm. The
negotiated purchase price is $65,000 per acre and that is in accordance of an appraisal which was
completed for the property. The purchase will be funded with Community Preservation funds
and a closing is expected hopefully by the end of August. The landowner is reserving from the
easement an area approximately 4 acres fronting on Aldrich Lane, he is before the Planning
Board for something called an open development subdivision for three residential lots within the
area reserved from the easement. The open development subdivision is a subdivision meeting
the requirements of a conservation subdivision whereby the landowner goes before the Planning
Board for sketch plan approval now and he goes before the Town Board for the approval for the
right to seek future approval of the creation of lots, in this case, the three lots and he completes
the preservation, again in this case, 18 acres now. So it basically is a way to preserve at least
80% of the property now and for the landowner to seek final approval for the lots in accordance
with the conservation subdivision regulations in the future. The Planning Board and the Town
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Board will each be holding hearings pertaining to the open development subdivision. The Land
Preservation Committee and I all support this purchase and we recommend that the Town Board
proceed with acquiring the easement. Of course, I need to note that the town cannot pursue our
preservation efforts without the landowners and we thank Peter Harbes, who is not here tonight,
for this opportunity to preserve another farm. As noted, the funding will come from the
Community Preservation Fund and I would like to take this opportunity to note that the
Community Preservation Fund, commonly known as the 2 % transfer tax, is a dedicated fund for
preservation purposes. The purposes of the fund are to exclusively implement the Community
Preservation Project Plan to acquire interests or rights in property for the preservation of our
communities character, to establish a transfer of development rights bank if we have a transfer of
development rights program and to provide for management and stewardship of the rights and
interests acquired with the Community Preservation Fund. And funds from the Community
Preservation Fund cannot be transferred to any other account for any other purpose. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anyone else like to come up and address the Town Board on
this particular acquisition? Mr. Harris.
PETER HARRIS: I have one question. This subdivision, is this for family members only or is
this building lots that they can turn around and sell privately?
MS. SPIRO: Pete, this isn't a hearing on the subdivision. That will be before the Planning
Board but there are no requirements as to who the lots can be sold to. There is nothing in the
conservation subdivision regulations.
MR. HARRIS: Okay. I am just, you know, sitting back there trying to do the math and the
amount of money we are paying out and then possible three or four lot subdivision that they can
put in, Melissa?
MS. SPIRO: Yes. On a 22 acre farm.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Pete, in effect, that area has been reserved and is not part of what
the town is buying. That portion is not part of the project.
MR. HARRIS: Okay.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: It is like when somebody goes in, they reserve certain part of the
property and is not putting it into the program.
MR. HARRIS: Okay. I am just, from my perspective, it is like a double edge sword. You
know. We are paying for the development rights and then we are turning around and holding off
part that we can put out to make a substantial gain. So that is, it just seems like...
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MS. SPIRO: Just so I can address that, the landowner has a 22 acre parcel that is zoned two
acres. So he has the right to a lot more than three lots. The three lots are in conformance with a
conservation subdivision which requires a minimum preservation of 80% and allows a, you need
to reduce your density by 60%, so his density actually is reduced by more than 60% overall on
that whole piece. So he is well within the conservation subdivision requirements. So what we
are buying on our easement, we are extinguishing those rights and he is retaining his rights on
the acreage he is leaving behind.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and address the Town Board
on this particular acquisition? (No response)
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER: Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
Closing Statements
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That completes the agenda, would anyone like to come up and
address the Town Board on any issue?
Councilman Albert Krupsld, Jr.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Before we start, I just thought of something 1 wanted to address.
Pete Harris raised the question about the subdivision, the open development subdivision and the
town's Community Preservation Plan and the 2% fund. And I have been the Town Board's
liaison to the Land Preservation Committee for almost four years now. And it is not like this is
just picked random and it is not like the Committee just made up the number and gave it to the
Town Board to approve. There is a review process, the applicant comes in and Melissa Spiro has
done a great job as far as Land Preservation Coordinator. And then there is an appraisal process,
so there is fair market value established. So this isn't just some kind of random, willy nilly thing
that you saw put up here tonight, this is a well thought out project that went through an awful lot
of review by a lot of people and that is why it made it this far tonight.
Councilman Vincent Orlando
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: And the yield map had 12 lots on it. The yield map.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Benja.
Benja Schwartz
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Good evening, Benja Schwartz, Cutchogue. In support of preservation
and development rights purchases, I am concerned, I am unable to understand exactly what
purchase of development rights means. I know it means prohibition of residential development
but I really don't understand what is agriculture anymore. And with all due respect to the name
Harbes, it is somewhat of a bell weather in these parts for agricultural entertainment which I
have nothing against but I just think we need to plan for it, there are also some problems that I
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know this Town Board is looking at with agricultural operations that are essentially becoming
industrial operations with huge trucking etc. and I drive one of those trucks. You know, we
need them but we also need to regulate them and if we are going to pumhase the development
rights, I would like to have a clearer idea of what it is that we are purchasing.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: There are different easements on different purchases. The county
has separate easements, the town has separate easement conditions. There was a grant here that
you just saw the Town accept for $771,000., that was a federal grant to help partner on a
development rights purchase, the federal government has different language easements and we
also are fortunate to receive through Melissa's hard work, quite a bit of money from the state
also. And their easements are written differently.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I wish I knew all that you know about it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I want to share your concerns. I actually agree that it is getting to be
a murky issue in terms of where does the agriculture stop and the post enterprise take place?
When does agriculture turn into catering, that sort of thing. Those are the issues we need to
wrestle with over the next few years as we try to hone our site plan process.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: But a lot of the, see, a lot of the activities that you are describing,
that is why there is a reserved area because they would take place on an area outside of where the
development rights have been purchased. There is a distinction there between what can happen
there and what can happen...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Is it clear that certain entertainment, say activities, cannot happen on the
land that has been, the development rights have been purchased?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I don't know about entertainment but there are different
prohibitions about horse, different horse activities.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, 1 don't expect all the answers tonight. I did hear that apparently the
Town Board discussed this morning and agreed to spend $6,000 to hire a company to assist it to
develop a multi-year financial planning policy. And this is all part of the same thing. Planning,
financial planning, land use, community preservation planning. I was disappointed that the
discussion on hiring this company really didn't focus on multi-year budgeting or multi-year
financial planning.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is exactly what it was.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Ostensibly what the purpose of that was for. But there was a lot of
discussion about the ability or inability in this economic climate to develop or maintain a reserve
fund even if you call it a fund balance or whatever, whether the budget should be balanced or
whether there should be a conservative budgeting process that we spend less than we have. I
think those are very important issues and I think the whole financial planning area is very
important. I am not convinced that hiring a company is going to take care of the problem. I
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would like to see some people more knowledgeable than me in the community get involved in
this. That is difficult when the information that is necessary to do financial planning is difficult
to get a hold of. I tried to look up the budget. I found last year's budget. 2008. Iit was adopted
in November of 2007. That is currently on the Comptroller's webpage. I don't know what
happened to the years before that. I would like to see the last 20 years of budgets up there, but
certainly the current years budget should be easily available there. It does not cost, it would not
cost the town anything to do that. And it would enable truly meaningful citizen participation.
Citizen participation cannot be meaningful without meaningful information. We need to have,
again, and I feel like a broken record when I talk about things like the website and the agenda for
these Town Board meetings, but I don't see any of the important issues that I think should be on
the Town Board agenda. So I don't see the content and what content I do see, I cannot
understand it. What it is. The descriptions on the agenda are so vague and just general that they
don't mean anything. So the only thing that we can do is just come here and sit and listen to you
all talk. And talk and talk and talk. And I have been doing that for 40 years. And I would like
to see us start going somewhere. I would like to see us have some real goals and adopt some
policies to guide our day to day actions. I don't think that living hand to mouth and budgeting is
the way to go. And I don't think that we are going to have a real multi-year budget policy in
addition to the annual budget policy which is required unless you get serious about doing
something. When the Comptroller came in today and said, oh, I can't do monthly budget
projections, nobody questioned that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, he didn't say that.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I thought that was, he said that the towns accounting department did not
have the means to do projections on a monthly basis. I thought that they were doing that. I
thought that I heard something about reports that were provided to the Supervisor on a monthly
basis. Why aren't those posted on the website? It wouldn't cost anything, it would make them
available to people who know a lot more than me.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Well, Benja, Munistat company was going to work with our
comptroller in programming. He is going to help our comptroller put together a program for
quarterly reports, so we can get quarterly reports and future reports so we can look into the future
and plan for it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: All we talked about today was multi-year budgeting. That was the
essence of the discussion. Multi-year budgeting. That was the what the discussions were with
regard to fund balances and reserves and that was why ....
MR. SCHWARTZ: I am just there, Scott.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I know. I am amazed to hear that we didn't hear the same
discussion. But that is what we talked about. Multi-year budgeting. Liabilities, you know, and
as I explained five times today, every budget...
MR. SCHWARTZ: Can I just ask you a question?
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, let me finish my thought. Every budget effects future
budgets, so you can't keep looking at budgets in an island. 2008 effects 2009, effects 2010.
There are cumulative effects on those budgets. That is why you have to step back and look at
budgets over the span of time, not just year to year to year. That is what we talked, that is why I
brought them today with the comptroller, to have Munistat present the multi-year budgeting.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Isn't it ironic that in a year in which the budget that was adopted, at the time
it was adopted, it was pretty well recognized that it might just be a pie in the sky, that it, you
know, that we weren't really looking on an annual basis. That we expected to have a budgetary
shortfall this year and our fears have come true.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right.
MR. SCHWARTZ: So it is easy to talk in retrospect.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, I agree with you.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I don't agree. I don't agree. We adopted a budget last year, it
was a best estimate's we had. I voted for that budget. I never would have voted for it if I, if
what you said characterized my thinking. It was the best estimate that we had at that time.
Nobody understood that the economy would do what it has done. And in fact, the town has been
accurate in our expenditures. We have not overspent. We have been right on budget. It would
be nice if it were on the web so you could trace it. Where we are short is on revenue.
Specifically on mortgage tax, since there are hardly any mortgages since the economic crunch
and for other reasons. But those are things that I don't think it is realistic to say we should have
foreseen that. That is my opinion.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Okay. Well, I don't know if we could have foreseen them but I think if
multi-year budgeting perspective had been implemented to compliment the annual budgetary
process which is required and I am not trying to suggest or imply that the annual budgetary
required process has not been technically complied with, it has, but we live in times, I think, in
which the financial situation reflects on other problems and I think we need to recognize that we,
this town, is not immune from them. We are part of a larger world. You know, another thing we
were spending money on tonight was, well, we shifted the budgetary amount around for the
emergency preparedness. Did the emergency preparedness program react or respond in any way
to the bridge that burned last Friday?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't know.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Are you familiar with the incident that I am talking about?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: To be candid, I am not.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Well, we live on an island, Long Island...
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COUNCILMAN RULAND: Are you talking about, that occurred in another jurisdiction?
That one? In the city of New York?
MR. SCHWARTZ: We live on an island.
COUNCILMAN RULAND: We are talking about the Town of Southold's emergency
preparedness.
MR. SCHWARTZ: That is right, but if you wanted to leave Long Island, you could not. All
week. It was, the traffic was backed up. It took two to four, six hours longer. So I think that
some awareness of that could have been implemented through our emergency preparedness.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know what? With all due respect, I am going to define
emergency preparedness as I see fit, when you are Supervisor, you can define it as you see fit. I
really want to focus more on emergency preparedness from a town level. There are jurisdictions,
it is a multi-layered, multi-mitigation hazard plan. The town has its job to do, the county does,
the state does, the federal government does. I am not going to send emergency preparedness
over to the Triborough bridge to see flames, that is a little outside of the reach I think of...
MR. SCHWARTZ: I don't think I was asking for that. What I am asking for is to look at
something that happens as a learning experience and as a way to start operating the gears so that
when something that is more closer to home hits, we know how things are going to work.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is what we do all the time. We have table top exercises, we
actually have land and sea drills. That is what we do all the time.
MR. SCHWARTZ: As my government representatives, if the Town of Southold government
was on top of things, ! would have expected that they would have heard about the accident and at
least monitored it and made that information available if anybody needed it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
Melanie Norden
MELANIE NORDEN: I just am curious as to why our comptroller feels that he is not adequate
to provide these services himself but we need to hire a firm to do it? Isn't multi-year budget
forecasting a standard task of a comptroller?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is becoming a more standard task, not necessarily at a town level,
they are not required by state law but town's are adopting those multi-year bt~dgeting plans. I
think Munistat has a good track record. I think going outside for some help is a good idea. The
comptroller has the day to day functions of his position. He is going to be a critical component
to developing that multi-year plan but I don't think that getting some consulting to help us
develop that multi-year budgeting plan is any more inappropriate than going out and getting
someone to help Heather Lanza with a comprehensive plan.
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MS. NORDEN: I perfectly understand that but we are talking about a very particular economy
where we are talking about laying off employees and we are really cutting back and first of all,
$6,000 in consulting fees doesn't really go very far if you are hiring somebody competent. That
is one, two, three or four days. Number one. Number two, in addressing Tom's comment, I
think the issue is not whether we could have foreseen what happened in the economy, the issue is
whether we will continue as a town to be dependent on the vagaries of mortgage taxes, real estate
taxes and things that happen at the landfill. Also, in addition, I would agree with Benja, we keep
on hearing the mortgage tax is down, real estate tax is down, the landfill revenues are down but I
never hear any numbers. And when we have discussions like this, I would love to know exactly
what we are talking about. Are mortgage taxes down by 20, 30, 40, 50 percent? Is the landfill
down by A, B, C, D and E and if so, what are the specific plans that we make to address those
issues? not just cutting back, you know, on staff or whatever but the discussions, I would agree,
are vague. We do hear this as taxpayers and we don't know really how to respond because there
is no specificity. Now, I also agree that, and I don't know what mechanism we could employ to
do this but it wouldn't hurt to occasionally have maybe a monthly update on the broader picture.
And I don't know how you would do this, if you would chose one town board meeting a month
and spend 10 minutes saying these are the majors issues that we have taken a look at this
particular month, in preservation, in planning, in blah, blah, blah. Down the list. Because it isn't
possible if you look at the website to find out what we are really doing and all these resolutions
about giving back somebody $300 for a permit are useless. I mean, who cares? I mean, I know
you probably have to put them on the agendas but they are time wasters. And when we also read
out a lot of the information and we keep on reading you know, the agenda resolutions ad
nauseum, it also never brings a real discussion to bear. Then we all go home and it is kind of
like, oh, well, hey. And we basically don't have anymore of a sense, quite honestly, of where we
are going. So I don't know if that is a subject, you might want to consider having a meeting
every one or two or three months where the town has an open meeting and they present what
they are doing, what the town is doing as a whole, maybe particularly within the budget crisis
time. We are all really concerned. But I do think specific information is really important. At
least numbers. And I also believe that the comptroller and the town accountants and assessors
and everyone else, could come up with in a pinched economy, a multi-year budget forecast
without hiring an outside firm. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: With that all in mind, 1 actually just let the Board know today that I
am preparing along with Philip Beltz, a power point presentation for a public meeting to get into
a detailed discussion of the budget. What is right, what is wrong, the mortgage tax performance
over the first (inaudible), the portion of mortgage tax to the town's overall levy, how revenue
shortages effect it. You know, our post retirement liabilities, such as retirement, such as medical,
to put that into something that the public can have a nice, informal discussion here, right at the
meeting hall. So we are organizing that now, so I agree with you 100%. Secondly, we actually
have monthly, more specific discussions with regard to where we are and where we are going. I
guess the fault rests with us that we don't simply bring it here at night. But we do talk about it at
work session and what we should do is take your advice and maybe announce to you when we
have those monthly meetings with the comptroller, what the results of those discussions were at
work session.
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MS. NORDEN: Well, I don't think it is just about finances. I think in general, even if you had a
10 minute summary without public comment afterwards on this is what we have been doing. Not
just in this economic crisis but the broad stroke and the public meeting is great about the budgets
but we all, the budget is also about all of what the town is doing and the town's programs. So an
independent budget analysis, as detailed as it can be and which would be very welcome, is only
the first step of beginning to understand where the town is going.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right.
MS. NORDEN: And if there is any mechanism that you can put together that would help to give
that overview, again, not just of the budget but what direction are we taking.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I think day to day decision making also that affects, you know, the
budget has made us make decisions that we don't necessarily want to take and it is all
intertwined and I agree 100%, we should do more of that.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: And maybe we could make the work session agenda available, you
know, from that previous work session. I mean, today we were there from 9 to 3 and we talked
about LWRP and that is a big issue that the town has been struggling with for four years. That
took quite a while. We talked about dredge windows, the dredge committee was in, we talked
about dredge windows, how it relates to the LWRP and the Supervisor is setting up a meeting
with all the major players, the DEC, the Department of State, Federal Fish and Wildlife and the
Army Corps, so we can once again try to address the changing dynamics of the dredging, the
maintenance dredging. Phil Beltz gave a presentation, we talked, the Planning Department was
in, we talked about open development areas which a previous Town Board had adopted but no
applicant had ever chosen to apply for...
MS. NORDEN: Mmmhmm.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: And that was a first. So, we have a very busy work session, six
hours worth of work session...
MS. NORDEN: Right.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: And you are right, the public doesn't see any of that debate and
any of those decisions that go on and then you come here and we read about, you know, we are
going to pay for the gravel and ....
MS. NORDEN: Exactly.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Well, Melanie, sometimes we give too much information,
sometimes we don't give enough on the resolutions.
MS. NORDEN: Right.
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Benja Schwartz
MR. SCHWARTZ: I apologize, I know 1 am a slow talker but if I could just have two minutes
more. I was driving home the other night and I saw a shooting star, it was beautiful. And first I
made a wish that it really was a shooting star and not just a fire work that I was hallucinating as a
shooting star and then I made a wish that this Town Board would wake up and realize that we are
part of the world. That the railroad has come to Southold Town. The Long Island Expressway
has come to Southold Town. And the internet has come to Southold Town and modern
technology is here and all of this talk, talk, talk can be complimented by a little bit of technology.
When you were talking about dredging today, all you needed was someone with the sense to
have a projector to show photograph of which creek you were talking about. It would have
added a lot to that discussion. And you know, you do a lot of transfer of funds in different
places. I noticed in the 2008 budget, there was almost $500,000 in the data processing
department and I think you all know how much of that was spent on website development. Zero.
Lori Salmon, Southold
LORI SALMON: Lori Salmon, Southold. I just have a couple of questions, one I am sure
doesn't really involve a lot of money and maybe I just heard it wrong but 2009-611 attend
seminar Town Clerk, you approved and gave permission to go to a seminar that was month ago?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah. That was to reimburse one of the attendees who is an
assistant in her office, who paid for her own lunch.
MS. SALMON: Oh.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is basically after, they had gone to the event ....
MS. SALMON: After the fact, it was put in.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And that was to reimburse one of the attendees for her lunch.
MS. SALMON: Okay, thanks. Just my other question is, the two retirements and the
resignation, will you be filling those positions?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Will what?
MS. SALMON: Will you be filling those positions?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I would tell you, Lori, right now it is a very fluid time, we have a lot
of decisions to make over the next few months. I can tell you we are trying to adhere to a policy
of absolute attrition. One of those positions, I do not envision refilling. Actually I don't think
we are in a position to fill any of them, to be frank.
MS. SALMON: Okay.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: That would be my reaction. We will have to discuss it as a
board ....
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MS. SALMON: So at this point, you are not planning to fill them but in the future you may find
that you have to, you may need to change that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, we will take it a day at a time, a step at a time. I am hoping
we can resolve things in the very near future. We will have a better picture of what our labor
pool is going to look like in the next year or two.
MS. SALMON: Okay, thanks.
Tom Skabry, Pres CSEA
TOM SKABRY: Tom Skabry again. Something that Melanie and Benja had mentioned before,
Betty, hopefully you can get the Town Board on board with this. Why don't we use our public
access television, our internet as well, to broadcast what actually goes on at these work sessions.
There are other municipalities that do just this. Make it a little bit more open government or at
least more public access to what goes on and additionally, I don't know how feasible it would be
but get these documents, these agendas, when you have your meetings at 4:30 they are
sometimes not made until just a little bit after 4:00. It really isn't sufficient time for us to see
what you folks really are going to be voting on tonight and perhaps you can maybe look into
possibly when you are dealing with the work session and you might have something you might
put on for resolution, that you hold off until the following town board meeting or possibly take
your work sessions and move them to the daytime of Tuesday of the week preceding your Town
Board meetings and this way there will be more than ample time to create a budget, I mean, an
agenda that the public will have an easier time ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I produce the agenda for the Town Board. I issue it every Friday. It
is a tentative agenda. Every Friday. There are modest changes because everything needs to be
discussed on Tuesday...
MR. SKABRY: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But there are modest changes to this agenda. Almost all of this
agenda was available as of Friday, other than the letter we get from somebody who is moving on
to greener pastures and we tack it on. Anything of substance is put out on Friday.
MR. SKABRY: Right. Well, I can tell you that I have been taken off that list, so it is not
available through the email system.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't have any idea why. I mean, it is the Clerk's office ....
MR. SKABRY: Well, I don't know why, it is the second time this has happened to me, it is
probably a little more than coincidence but I will leave it at that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, come on Tom, that is ridiculous.
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MR. SKABRY: Listen ....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is a specious thing to say.
MR. SKABRY: Get past that...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You are down here all the time, walk in and get a copy.
MR. SKABRY: Yeah, well, it would be wonderful ifI could. A lot of times I am not available.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Friday afternoons, I put it together 3:00 every Friday.
MR. SKABRY: Why don't you consider doing this, then, Scott. Why don't you consider taking
your work sessions and holding them on a Tuesday preceding the Town Board meetings. For
instance, today's work session could have been held last week on Tuesday. It is just a thought.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't see any perceivable benefit to that but...
MR. SKABRY: Just take it into consideration.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And we table many resolutions because they need further
clarification, further discussion. A lot of the stuff you see here are resolutions that have been
repeating themselves from meeting to meeting to meeting, but 1 don't see any perceivable
benefit to putting a one week lag between work session and formal action of the Board to be
frank. But we will certainly take it up.
MR. SKABRY: Just take it into consideration.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board? Peter?
Peter Harris Supt Highways
PETER HARRIS: Peter Harris, resident of Greenport. Just sitting back them listening to
speakers up here tonight talking, you know, lot of discussion about the town's inability to
function, finances, taxes, well, you know the bottom line is when the revenues were being
generated because business and the commerce was strong, nobody was here questioning this
Town Board and the departments within the Town about their operations because they were
doing the very best job that they could possibly do. we, as elected officials, both sitting up on
that dais, myself as an elected official, we are now having to cope with the shortfall of funds.
And, I mean, believe me folks, these people sitting up on that dais, it is a very stressful and
trying time. And to sit back and question, well we should have this and we should have that,
there is no crystal ball for us to know six months down the road how much the tax revenues are
going to be off, how do we know that? I mean, the stock market, when the stock market started
to go down, it was just a steady free for all. All of those monies that was tied up and that people
lost had a direct effect upon where we are today. Southold Town is no different than any other
municipality on Long Island. Whether it be the county, the towns, the state, we are all facing
hardships. The single biggest hardship for me as an elected official right now is having to even
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think about losing people. Because the fact that, you know, they are a job today is a lot and I
only hope that the unions and our elected officials can come to an agreement so that we don't
have to send anybody away from working for this Town. But for the general public its, you
know, if there is discussions about bringing someone in and to spend $6,000 to get a grasp that is
going to better help us, well, maybe that is a good $6,000 spent. But you know, like Scott said,
you know, if everybody that sits in the audience has got the answer, you know, put your name on
the line and run for office and tell everybody how you got a better idea. Because it is very
simple to sit from the cheap seats and week after week take potshots at our elected officials. We
only can do the very best we can do with what we have to work with, so I think you just need to
give him a break.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, Peter. I just want to, he very much paraphrased me, I
don't want to drum up competition for the Supervisor's position so I didn't quite say run against
me, I just, but no, thank you, Pete. Let me say one other thing, recording the work sessions, I
actually thought that was a good idea about three years ago until we found out how much the
cost would be. We pay for this camera to put this on channel 22, then this gets reimbursed as
part of our franchise agreement with Cablevision. So the bill comes to us, we pay it and then we
get reimbursed for cable. They won't cover the work session, we have to pay out of pocket for
that. And it was really cost prohibitive at the time, given this economic climate, it is not going to
look any better. But I think the work session is probably the more interesting of the two, of the
two meetings, certainly.
Tom Skabry, Pres CSEA
MR. SKABRY: Pete, that was a wonderful speech. I want to make it clear because I notice we
have a reporter to our local paper here, I just want to make it very clear, both sides have been
communicating, honestly as far as I know, with each other and as per the gag order which is in
place, we have honored it and I hope that the Town will continue to honor it and that we will be
meeting tomorrow at 10:00 in the morning in a private session and hopefully, we can have the
final nail put in this coffin where we won't have to deal with layoffs. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and address the Town Board?
(No response) Thank you, thank you, thank you. Can I get a motion to adjourn?
Motion To: Adjoum Town Board Meeting
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned at 8:40
P.M.
RESULT:
MOVER:
Southold Town Clerk
ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
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SECONDER: Vincent Orlando, Councilman
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell