HomeMy WebLinkAboutGoldsmith/Tuthill HouseSOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
PUBLIC HEARING
October 21, 2008
5:05 PM
Present:
Supervisor Scott Russell
Justice Louisa Evans
Councilman Thomas Wickham
Councilman Albert Krupski, Jr.
Councilman William Ruland
Councilman Vincent Orlando
Town Clerk Elizabeth Neville
Town Attorney Finnegan
This hearing was opened at 6:34 PM
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to the
provisions of Chapter 170 (Landmark Preservation) of the Town Code, the Town Board
of the Town of Southold hereby sets Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 5:05 P.M.,
Southold Town Hall~ 53095 Main Road~ Southold, New York as the time and place
for a public hearing to consider the designation of the Goldsmith-Tuthill house on
the town's register of Historic Landmarksl the house is located at SCTM 1000-117-
8-8~ 16995 Main Street, New Suffolk~ New York. The property owner has requested
and the Historic Preservation Commission has recommended the property for inclusion
on the town's register. The file is available for review during regular business hours by
contacting Damon Rallis at the Southold Town Building Department. If you have any
questions, please do not hesitate to contact Damon Rallis at the Southold Town Building
Department (631) 765-1802 or Damon. Rallis~town.southold.ny.us.
I see Joan Robbins (the homeowner) is here with us this evening. I have a memorandum
here from James Grathwohl, our Landmarks Preservation commissioner, the Chair of our
Commission. 'On September 16th, Southold Town Landmarks Preservation Commission
voted to recommend that this property be placed on the Town's register of historic
landmarks. Please schedule a public hearing regarding the designation of this property in
the Town of Southold. We respectfully request that the heating be scheduled for October
21st.' In this file is a note about the building and I can let others speak to it who have
more intimate connection with it than I do but it is a pre-1873 as a date and it is indeed an
historic structure. I have an original of the legal notice that appeared in the local
newspaper about it and it has also appeared on the Town Clerk's bulletin board outside. I
guess that the only, that is the significant data I have on it.
Goldsmith-Tuthill House Historic Landmark Designation
October 21, 2008 Public Hearing
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, I want to recognize, actually I have Landmark
Preservation Commission member Barbara Schnitzler in the back, Joan Robbins, the
homeowner of the home; Jim Grathwohl, the chairman of the group was here earlier, he
left just a short time ago. Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board
on this particular designation? Please, come on up.
JOAN ROBBINS: I will be very happy to have my property designated a landmark and
for those that might be considering something like this, I wanted to say that before I
applied I sought the advice of a very reputable local appraisal firm to see what change,
what effect this might have on the value. And I was told that their experience showed
that it really had no effect at all on value one way or the other. I had determined to do
this in any case because I thought it was the best way I knew to protect the property. I do
not want my house to be a tear down one day and I especially do not want my husband's
barn, Newt's barn to be tom down. The other thing is, if this is approved, I will be only
the fourth structure in New Suffolk to be designated a local landmark. The Methodist
mission, which is now Janet McGowan's house, the old Harbor House, which is Barbara
Schnitzler's and the New Suffolk school are the first three. And this is really a pity,
because in a small hamlet that is less than one square mile in acreage, there are well over
40 structures still (inaudible) let were listed on the SPLIA list in 1985. I mean, we are
not designated an historic district but we ought to be. Because we really are. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to come up and
address on this designation?
BARBARA SCHNITZLER: Barbara Schnitzler, Landmarks Commissioner. I am here
to speak in support of Joan's landmark and I am here to speak as a Commissioner but as a
fellow New Suffolker and fellow landmark owner and I am just happy that every time I
ride my bike down Main Street, I will know that I can always see her little house and her
little barn and hopefully her garden, too. I know it will be safe and it will be there for my
children and my grandchildren, too. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and address the Board
on this issue of designation? (No response)
This heating was closed at 6:39 PM
Southold Town Clerk
Soutlnold Toxin Board - Letter
Board Meelirig of October 21,2008
RESOLUTION 2008-982
ADOPTED
Item//
DOC ID: 4_352
TIIIS IS TO CERTIFY '/'HAT THE FOLLOV~NG RESOLUTION NO. 2008-982 WAS
ADOPTED AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD ON
OCTOBER 21, 2008:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby designates the Goldsmith-
Tuthill House located at SCTM I000-117-8-8~ 16995 Main Street~ New Suffolk~ New York~
as historic and add to the town's register of ltistoric Landmarks; all in accordance with
Chapter 170 of the Southold Town Code, the recommendation for designation by the Southold
Town Historic Preservation Commission, and acceptance of designation by Joan Robbins, the
property owner.
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
SECONDER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
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STATE OF NEW YORK)
) SS:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
Karen Kine of Mattituck, in said county, being duly sworn, says that she is
Principal Clerk of THE SUFFOLK TIMES, a weekly newspaper, published at
Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York, and that
the Notice of which the annexed is a printed copy, has been regularly published in
said Newspaper once each week for 1 week(s), successively, commencing on the
16th day of October, 2008. / /
Principal Clerk
Sworn to before me this
day of 0~]'~_~ 2008
LEGAL NOT1CE
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pur-
suant to the provisions of Chapter 170
(Landmark Preservation) of the Town
Code, the Town Board of the Town of
Southold hereby sets lhesdav. October
21. 2008 at 5.~5 PM_ Southold TowD
Hall 53095 Main Road. Southold. New
York as 1he ~me and Mace for a amb-
I~c hearin~ lo consider the desi~natinn
of 1he Goldsmith. Tnthill house on
town's reaisler of Historic Landmark~
the house is located at SCTM 1000.11%
88. 16995 Main Street. New Suffolk.
New York. The property owner has
requested and the Historic Preserva-
tion Commission has recommended the
property for inclusion on the town's reg-
ister. The file is available for review dur-
ing regular business hours by contacting
Damon Rallis at the Southold Town
Building Department. If you have any
questions, please do not hesitate to con-
tact Damon Railis at the Southold Town
Building Department (631) 765-1802 or
Damon .Ragis@t own.sour hold.ny, us.
Dated: October 7, 2008
BY ORDER OF
THE TOWN BOARD
OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Elizabeth Neville
Town Clerk
9040-1T 1@16
CHRISTINA VOLINSKI
NOTARY PUBLiC-STATE OF NEW YORK
No. 01.V06106060
Qualified In 8uffolR county
LEGAL NOTICE
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 170 (Landmark
Preservation) of the Town Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets
Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 5:05 P.M. Southold Town HalL 53095 Main Road,
Southold, New York as the time and place for a public hearing to consider the
designation of the Goldsmith-Tuthill house on the town's register of Historic
Landmarks; the house is located at SCTM 1000-117-8-8~ 16995 Main Street, New
Suffolk~ New York. The property owner has requested and the Historic Preservation
Commission has recommended the property for inclusion on the town's register. The file
is available for review during regular business hours by contacting Damon Rallis at the
Southold Town Building Department. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact Damon Rallis at the Southold Town Building Department (631) 765-1802 or
Damon. Rallis~town.southold.ny.us.
Dated: October 9, 2008
BY ORDER OF THE TOWN BOARD
OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Elizabeth Neville
Town Clerk
PLEASE PUBLISH ON OCTOBER 16, 2008, AND FORWARD ONE (1) AFFIDAVIT
OF PUBLICATION TO ELIZABETH NEVILLE, TOWN CLERK, TOWN HALL, P.O.
BOX 1179, SOUTHOLD, NY 11971.
Copies to the following:
The Suffolk Times
Historic Preservation Commission
Town Board
Building Department
Town Attorney
Town Clerk's Bulletin Board
Planning Department
STATE OF NEW YORK)
SS:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE, Town Clerk of the Town of Southold, New York being
duly sworn, says that on the q/-,q, day of tgo__.~-. ,2008, she affixed a notice of
which the annexed printed notice is a true copy, in a proper and substantial manner, in
a most public place n the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, to wit:
Town Clerk's Bulletin Board, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York.
Re: PH Landmark Designation
Goldsmith-Tuthill House
Sworn before me this
/~) ~"'day of ~5?e.~zo~.o, 2008.
~-~lizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk
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Cooper, Linda
From:
Sent:
To:
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Subject:
Cooper, Linda
Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:43 AM
Cooper, Linda; Corcoran, Kieran; Finnegan, Patricia; JOAN ANN - Legals; Neville, Elizabeth;
Rudder, Lynda
Rallis, Damon
10-21-08 5.05pm Hist Desig - Goldsmith-Tuthill house
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Suffolk Times - Please confirm receipt of this legal notice to be published 10/16/08
0/9/2008
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Cooper, Linda
From: Cooper, Linda
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:46 AM
To: Lanza, Heather
Subject: 10-21-08 5.05pm Hist Desig - Goldsmith-Tuthill house
Attachments: 10-21-08 5,05pm Hist Desig - Goldsmith-Tuthill house.doc
Hi Heather,
Instead of sending you a photocopy of this legal notice, I'm emailing you the notice for your department
10/9/2008
Page 1 oi'l
Cooper, Linda
From: Cooper, Linda
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 8:45 AM
To: Bunch, Connie
Subject: 10-21-08 5.05pm Hist Desig - Goldsmith-Tuthill house
Attachments: 10-21-08 5.05pm Hist Desig - Goldsmith-Tuthill house.doc
Hi Connie,
Instead of photocopying this legal notice for you department, I'm saving paper and emailing to you for your office.
10/9/2008
Southold Town Board - Letter
Board Meeting of October 7, 2008
RESOLUTION 2008-936
ADOPTED
Item #
DOC ID: 4_309
THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION NO. 2008-936 WAS
ADOPTED AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD ON
OCTOBER 7, 2008:
RESOLVED that pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 170 (Landmark Preservation) of the
Town Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets Tuesda¥~ October 21~ 2008
at 5:05 P.M.~ Southold Town HalL 53095 Main Road~ Southold~ New York as the time and
place for a public hearing to consider the designation of the Goldsmith-Tuthill house on the
town's register of Historic Landmarks; the house is located at SCTM 1000-117-8-8, 16995
Main Street, New Suftblk, New York. The property owner, Joan B. Robbins, has requested and
the Historic Preservation Commission has recommended the property for inclusion on the town's
register
Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: William Ruland, Councilman
SECONDER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
AYES: Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
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Town Hall Annex
54375 Main Road
P,O. Box 1179
Southold. New York 11971-0959
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Telephone (631) 765-1802
Fax (63 I) 765-9502
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
RECEIV~:D
OCT 6 2v ,S
MEMORANDUM
To: Town Clerk Elizabeth Neville
From: James Grathwohl, Landmark Preservation Commission
Date: October 6, 2008
Re: 1000-117-8-8, 16995 Main Street, New Suffolk
Cc: File
On September 16, 2008, the Southold Town Landmarks Preservation Commission voted
to recommend that this property be placed on the town's register of historic landmarks.
Pursuant to 170-5 A (2) and Chapter 55 of the Southold Town Code, please schedule a
public hearing regarding the designation of the above referenced property as a designated
historic landmark in the Town of Southold.
We respectfully request that the hearing be scheduled for October 21, 2008.
Once a hearing has been scheduled, please contact Damon Rallis in the Southold Town
Building Department so that he may inform commission members and the applicant.
Thank you for your consideration.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
SOUTHOLD TOWN
APPLICATION FOR LISTING ON THE
~OUTH(~LD T~WN RE(~I~TER OF DF:~IGNATFF) I ANFIMARK$
B UILDING-STRUCTURE INVENTORY FORM
OWNER'S/SPONSOR'S NAME:
ADDRESS: [~ R. cf>''/
CITY/STATE/ZIP: ~¢-[/~ ~U~C'oL~<., ,,~'~
ORGANIZATION (If any):
DATE:
IDENTIPICA TION
1. Building Name (How commonly identified):
2. Address: I(~q,q, 5"
3. County: S'~U.4, Town:,(ou-t'l,~u,b Village: ~
4. CountyTax Map Number: Section:% Block ~' Lot
5. Ownership: a. Public b. l/'"Priv'ate
6. Present Occupant: D'%e,J (~. ~o1~5'
7. Use: Original:sc'e' ~'~&~t~.c.~r..~Present:
8. Accessibility to Public: Exterior visible from public road: ~/Yes __ No Interior
accessible: (Explain, i.e. By appointment) 1[¥
DESCRIPTION
1. Building Materials: a. v/Shingles b. __ Clapboards c. __ Stone
d. Bricks e. Stucco f. Board and Batten
2. St~tural Syste~-: a. _~/~Vo~frame b. Masonry load bearing walls
c. __ Metal d. Other° t¢0 ~p~0 ff-~ ~ ¢ P~-r~+---~¥ o~/
3. Condition: a. ~7-/Excelle~' b. v/Good c. __ Fair d. __ Deteriorated
4. Integrity: a. _~-/On original site b. __ Moved If so, when?
c. List major alterations and dates, if known: 5'~b ,¢~0¢..~ ~
RELA TED O/U"TBUILDINGS AND PROPERTY
a. ~z' Barn b. Carriage House c:._.__ Garage d~__ Privy e. Shed
f.__ GreenhoUse g.__Shop h.~L/Gardens i. v"Fence --
j. __ Landscape Features k. v/Other (Explain): T~.e'¢[; S'I~r~C'~ ~L~'T')
THREA TS T/O BUILDING
a. v' None Known b. __ Zoning c. __ Roads d. __ Developers
e. __ Deterioration f. __ Other (Explain)
/'re
OTHER NOTABLE FEATURES OF BUILDING AND SITE (Including interior features,
if known; indicate if building or structure is in an historic district):
IFICANCE
1, Date(s)of Initial Construction and Maj~lteration~if any:
2, Architect:
3. Builder: ~ ~o~W~
4. Historical and Architectural Impedance, i.e. famous residents, special events
took place, etc. ~ o~ ~V ~¢~t~¢
5. Is structure, place or site presently on any historic register that you know of?
so, which one(s) and on what date (s)?
MISCEllANeOUS DA TA
In your estimation, why should this properly be designated a Southold Town
Landmark?
80U~0~8 OF INFORMATION (Individuals other than owner/~pplioanl, maps, et~.):
Attach photos of facades of building/structure/site visible from a public street as
well as of significant interior features, i.e. fireplaces, mantles, stairs, etc. as
appropriate.
Attach Survey Map or Sketch of Location.
AGREEMENT
It is understood that by the filing of this application, and following the inspection and
evaluation of the property recommended for landmark status, that you are requesting the services
of the Southold Town Historic Preservation Commission to help you conserve, protect and
preserve your historic property. Neither the Commission nor the Town has fiduciary
responsibilities for any recommendations it might make to you to accomplish these conservation
goals. The Commission's recommendations to you are not binding, but non-conformance with
these recommendations could result in denial or revocation of Southold Town landmark status.
Signature (s) of Applicant (s):
Forward completed apphcatmn with required attachments to Southold Town
Historic Preservation Commission, Town Hall, P.O. Box 1179, Southold, NY 11971
FOR OFFICE USE ONLY
BUILDING-STRUCTURE .INVENTORY FORM ,
'" UNIQUE-SITE NO. "
D~VISION FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION "/QUAD : -'
NEW YORK STATE PARKS AND RECREATION SERIES
ALBANY; NEW YORK (518) 474-0479 '~u ';: '~'i. ldEG NO ·
_.: YOUR ADDR~'~O~ Hall~ ~ln 'Ro~d .'T~EPH~NE?516/~6S 1892 :',-' .-:
'ORGANIzATIoN (if ~y): Sou%hold To~ C0~m~i'%7: DeVel0~men% Off~ce
IDE~FICA~ON ' '7-
I. BUILDING NAME,
3. STREET ~ATION:~ Street/north-east co.er of Th[~ Street
· .- 5.,PRESENT O~ER: N~w~o~
['?. ~RU~URA[ ::: .~.'~ w6od frame wi{h interl~king joinl~
.. ~Y~EM: .... ~ b."'~ood'frame with I~t members -.
(i~ known) ,. .... .. c., mason~ load Bearing WaBs ~ .... .
( p~ ~) ....
e. ,' bthe/ De~s in ba~" and
10. CONDITION: ~. excelle.t ~ b. ~ood ~ c. f~r ~ d. ~eterioraled
I I. INTEGRITY: ~. ofi~inal sile ~ b. moved ~ if ~,when?. " = "~';~
c. list major alterations and dates (if known):
' ' .-"Fa~ade-f~m the sou%h '" - '. :~:. '
stone. Wal I -from "tlel 1 ~? ,:excava~
k more
-l~id
'(&.:6th6rs)i. in'~1836 as amas2er
The houses '~round"it are ~ell"spaced~.and
. the'
,c;. U::.' ' :'? ~
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'.' ~, ~ plate,on s~one foundatic
. '~'~:":?~;~';~[~:"~T~ 'is no _ov~ha~ at eaves :'or 0n
~. ~...,-:-, .-*t~; ?. "'l .... · ~' ' ' '- ''--':,' ."' - "-
' - '- SIGNIFIC~CE ' ''. ,' -,:,'-' ..... ::,:"--"".'
-' .... Chace.' Map'of Suffolk C0un~,y · ' ......
Butterwort~, ~tar~orle M. 'r~e Suffolk
21. SOURCES: Greenpor~ ·1983, p.27. -; .-
· Plimpton' E., ~ure
· *Robbins Newton, Dec.
'-22. TalkiE: Fo~ prepped by Rosemary Skye
.a~SlS~ . "~ ' ' '
::. '-'"J}~[f'lg;: ,DATE OF INITIAL CONSTRUCTI
"~ :.'i/:i~:~':?%:,'~'[:,:t':''''::. ~ ' " ': ' '." '
-"". "-:BUIhDER: ' ' ~ .... ' '-'
20. :HISTORICAL AND ARCHITEUU~L IMPORTANCE: ": ,,..
,-~ ' - *~'j~'~ow~d. Tuhili 9a&':the original o~er Of "~he .ho
· --' -was buzl~ for the ~"who was in ch~ge df ;~he
~ '. ' .. ~eries 'by boa~'qThe ham housed' ~he' w~ons and
hoarded the coa!"from the b~ge~'? ar~ing from
'- - '~ - -
The smaller part of this red shingled house, built on a stone foundation, is one
of the oldest in New Suffolk, although the original owner or builder is unknown.
In the early 1900's, it contained a little candy store called Aunt Mary's. When
Howard G. Tuthill owned it, Henry Seymour lived there and drove the horses
and wagons stabled in the adjoining barn. He hauled the coal that was loaded
from the barges at the New Suffolk dock for Goldsmith and Tuthill. In 1925,
the house was bought by Joseph and Anna "Case" Lechmanskei. In 1961, it
was purchased by the present owners, Newton and Joan Robbins.
father of Captain Frank Acker, married Ellen Tuthill. After his death his widow
married John Jennings and moved to his house across the street-the white clap~
board house with Palladian windows and a dutch oven in the chimney. Mrs. Ellen
Tuthill Acker Jennings lived here alone for many years after her second
husband's death. The present owner is Mrs. Frank Hagen.
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1873
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APPLICATION FOR LISTING ON THE
SOUTHOLD TOWN REGISTER OF DESIGNATED LANDMARKS
TRANSMITTAL/ROUTING SHEET FOR
BUILDING-STRUCTURE INVENT_OR. FORM
(For Office Use Only)
1. Date Received:
2. Date Initially Reviewed by Commission:
3. Date Scheduled for Inspection:
4. Date Inspected:
5. Inspection Team:
6. Comments of Inspection Team:
7. Recommendation:
8. Date of Final Review by Commission:
9. Action: __ Approved __ Denied
Date Submitted to Town Clerk for Official Notice:
10. Date Applicant Notified:
11. Date Plaque Presented at Meeting of Town Board: