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OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
January 6, 2009
4:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, January 6, 2009 at the
Meeting Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, NY. Supervisor Russell opened the meeting at 4:30
PM with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Call to Order
4:30 PM Meeting called to order on January 6, 2009 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25,
Southold, NY.
Attendee Name Organization Title Status Arrived
William Ruland Town of Southold Councilman Present
Vincent Orlando Town of Southold Councilman Present
Albert Krupski Jr. Town of Southold Councilman Present
Thomas H. Wickham Town of Southold Councilman Present
Louisa P. Evans Town of Southold Justice Present
Scott Russell Town of Southold Supervisor Present
Elizabeth A Neville Town of Southold Town Clerk Present
Kieran Corcoran Town of Southold Asst Town Att Present
I. Reports
1. DPW Monthly Report
December 2008
II. Public Notices
1. Town of Riverhead Code Amendment
Handicapped Access Ramps
Uses
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III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. Request for Use of Strawberry Fields
2. 9:30 A.M. - Heather Lanza, Pat Finnegan
Wireless Facilities Code - Set public Hearing
3. 10:00 A.M. - Chief Cochran
- High Band Conversion for Police Department
- Hire PSD to fill vacant position
4. Employees
- Policy on Comp Time/Overtime
- Town Employees on Committees
5. Town Employees/Cell Phones
per Councilman Orlando
6. Draft Schedule: Department by Department Budget Review
Tuesday, January 20th @ 2:30 p.m. - Chief Cochran
Wednesday, February 4th @ 2:30 p.m. - Jim Bunchuck
Tuesday, February 3rd @ 2:30 p.m. - Peter Harris
7. Resurrection of LWRP Committee - Don Wilder Chair (?)
8. 12:30 P.M. Joan Gilroy
Cablevision
9. Executive Session
Discussions regarding proposed litigation
10. 1:00 P.M. - John Cushman
Medical/Employment History of a Particular Person
11. Executive Session
Matters concerning the employment/discipline of particular person(s) per Councilman Krupski
12. Executive Session
Litigation
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13. Division of Natural Resources
Opening Statements
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Thank you. Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on any item as it
appears on the agenda? Mrs. Egan?
JOAN EGAN: Good evening, Joan Egan, East Marion. Very happy and blessed new year to
everyone here and everyone up there. Before I start, I am going to make a comment which I
have already made but I want to make it public. I think this is ridiculous that you don’t spell out
what each one of the resolutions are. I was informed that this is to save paper. That is
ridiculous. There is so many was up here that you can save paper other than this way. This is
absolutely wrong. I guess if you get here early or if you have a computer, you can pick up what
all of these resolutions mean. So this, in my opinion, is very wrong. So it is just going to take
you longer to answer my questions, so let’s start. Now, resolution 4, come on.
JUSTICE EVANS: What number?
MS. EGAN: What is it all about?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What are you looking at? The organizational meeting?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: She is.
MS. EGAN: This says the final agenda.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is from the organizational meeting we had today. We had an
organizational meeting today, we had broken from the regular work session to have the
organizational meeting today, I am going to wing it from memory but I will be happy to answer
any questions you want to ask.
MS. EGAN: This isn’t the resolution for tonight?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No.
MS. EGAN: Well, I asked the girls in Mrs. Neville’s department if they had one and she said it
is on the table and this is the only one I saw on the table.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mrs. Egan, you can take mine.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Mrs. Egan, at what time?
MS. EGAN: About five after four.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: That is a collectors item.
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MS. EGAN: This is what, now, why in god’s name did you tell me it was to save paper? You
didn’t know the correct answer. The correct answer was that I didn’t have the right thing.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just for clarification while Mrs. Egan is….
MS. EGAN: Well, okay, let’s go with resolution 4 with FIFD fuel oil bid 2009.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: What is the number of the resolution, Mrs. Egan?
JUSTICE EVANS: It refers to the Fishers Island Ferry District…
MS. EGAN: Okay, that is the Fishers Island thing. You take care of that. Now, the next one is
Fishers Island also. This one on the resolutions number 64, number 6, CDBG program.
JUSTICE EVANS: 66?
MS. EGAN: CDBG program.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is Community Development Block program. Each year we
receive money from the federal government. It is a lump sum and it is earmarked to local
organizations that provide the type of service we would like to provide but we are not good at.
That would be Early Learning Center, CAST, groups like that. This would be an allocation of
money to these various groups. Robert Perry daycare.
MS. EGAN: And we are getting money on that?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We get the money from the federal government. We are a conduit
for the money from the federal government and then distribute it to the local need organizations.
MS. EGAN: Okay. Well, resolution 10 here was the Planning Department, now part of this says
although the Planning Board has exceeded the $47,000, there is just too much money being spent
over there, salaries and everything. That is exceeded, it has received from applicants or applied
from TDR grants reimbursement for approximately 90 % of the budgeted amount and overage.
Now what does that all mean?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Can I give a resolution number from you?
MS. EGAN: Number 10. The Planning Department, budget modification.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is a….
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Discussion area?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That would be a, that would be a budget modification cleaning up
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2008 books. That would be to transfer $10,000 that we had earmarked to planning consultant to
a specific environmental consultant. Environmental consultant would generally be SEQRA or
review of a SEQRA submission, that sort of thing. And it is balancing the books out for 2008.
MS. EGAN: So they got money back?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We generally get approximately 98 % of the budgeted amounts,
TDR grant, or apply for a TDR grant reimbursement but we anticipated getting money back for
the TDR program. There is still some outstanding bills that had to be paid however.
MS. EGAN: Yeah. You are losing somebody there, aren’t you?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: In the Planning Board?
MS. EGAN: Yeah.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No. We actually had a gentleman resign a couple of months ago.
We opted to not fill the position.
MS. EGAN: I heard something about Jeri Woodhouse, no change there?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually passed a resolution today keeping Jeri Woodhouse and
keeping Jim Dinizio in the Zoning Board of Appeals in their respective roles until we can decide
when to appoint a new person or if we are going to appoint a new person. We are receiving
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resumes until January 16 to see what interest is out there. So we have until the 16. We can’t
do anything until we get the responses back. And then they will be screened like everybody else.
MS. EGAN: Well, it is a shame you can’t get rid of a lot of them there because there is a lot of
them there because there is just too much money being spent there.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You are really starting to sound like Joe Lizewski these days, I have
to tell you.
MS. EGAN: Huh?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You are starting to sound a lot like Joe Lizewski these days.
MS. EGAN: Okay. Now, the resolution pertaining to the Tree Committee. Who is in charge of
the Tree Committee now?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The liaison is Vincent Orlando.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Cichanowicz.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Dave Cichanowicz is the chair.
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MS. EGAN: Oh, good. Well, more power to the Tree Committee. They are taking trees down
all over, with any excuse they can.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That wouldn’t be the Tree Committee, that would be Asplundh or
any one of the contract organizations that works for LIPA or the State of New York.
MS. EGAN: Oh, no, I am talking about homeowners.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, homeowners. Okay. Fair point.
MS. EGAN: They say they have a problem with spiders, they have this, they have that. Oh,
incidentally, your new code enforcer in the building, you know, who had been, is in my opinion,
doing an excellent job. He’s applying himself in a different manner, I am not criticizing Eddie
Forrester but you know, new blood, new broom sweeps clean. And, so that is good. So now the
next one here was number 14 which was a budget modification for the highway. Now I have a
letter into the Suffolk Times, I will not mention the contents of it now but it does pertain to, well,
in a sense I am letting you know, to the Highway Department and the absolute terrible job
Southold did cleaning up the last snowfall. Horrible. And we give them a lot of money and a lot
of good equipment. I don’t know why it didn’t work this time, we are supposed to get a storm
tonight. let’s all hope and pray it works better. The next thing here is the Assessors, who work
extremely hard, who take a lot of lot of backlash from homeowners out here and I think they do
an excellent job. Okay, the next one was the budget modification for the recreation center. How
is our recreation center, the roof working and the floors aren’t falling apart?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Everything is coming along quite nicely, actually.
MS. EGAN: Good. Good. And the historic preservation, #17, I think that is good money and
let’s hope you take care of what we have historically here. That didn’t happen when you let it
mildew down in the basement. Okay, the next one was #18, full time employees and court
reporter underfunding. Now, you know when we had a turnover from the court, I believed that, I
don’t know whether you really used the civil service list, did you? To replace Theresa and
Alice?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually couldn’t, we exhausted the list. There was not
workable list…
MS. EGAN: Oh, I think you told me that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah. We could advertise at large. Because the unique feature in
that position was we needed Spanish language specialty.
MS. EGAN: Yeah, yeah. Right. Now, so, okay, item 20, data processing, fiscal impact reason
underfunded salary increase. What does that mean?
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let me find it. That is overtime earnings. That is actually,
unfunded salary increase, that must have been a salary increase that was received by one or both
of the employees that weren’t appropriated for in the 2008 budget. This would be an end of year
housecleaning measure, to transfer money that wasn’t used in overtime to cover that underfunded
line.
MS. EGAN: Okay. Item number 23 was leave time donations for non-union employees. What
was that all about?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is an employee who is very ill, the town has, in passing that
resolution would support that plan that would allow other employees to donate unused time to
that employee should they need an extended medical leave.
MS. EGAN: Yeah. Have you changed, you know, one of the problems with your original
budget and what have you, you know last fall, was the problem that you were funding your own
insurance. Have you been able to adjust that so that type of thing doesn’t happen again or you
are locked into it?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, we are still self funded. It is still a better deal, I mean, you have
to look at the broad scope over the years. We have done far better with the self-insured plan than
had we stayed with Blue Cross. But the reality is, is that it is a budget that over the last couple of
years that has run very short. About a million dollars short. And we financed most of that in the
current budget. This year, what we did was to limit our liability, we raised the amount of money
that would be covered by insurance before we are liable. We are on the hook …
MS. EGAN: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: …(inaudible) and of course you pay more in premiums but again,
the stopgap measure was worth it, so you do the best you can when you manage it.
MS. EGAN: Okay. The next one is Fishers Island. Number 25, your good looking assistant DA
here or lawyer, got married. I congratulated him. I wasn’t invited to the wedding but I will say a
prayer for both of you. Now I think this is maybe a sector of the public hearing, CW Francis
SEQRA. Is that going to be, can we discuss it now or is that going to be at the public hearing.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Public hearing.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Public hearing.
MS. EGAN: Okay. And number 29, I think that is a public hearing, too. And I think number 31
is also a public hearing. Well, if I think of more, you know I will tell you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Of course.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Mrs. Egan, if I can just comment, we did ask the Town Clerk to
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economize this year on paper and as a result, she is issuing just the abbreviated agendas that you
saw before. But if you or anybody else in the audience wants the full agenda, just ask for it at
the Town Clerk’s office and I am sure they will give it to you. Before the meeting.
MS. EGAN: Yeah, well, if they are there. You know, if I get here early.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Will they be there?
MS. EGAN: They were there. They did tell me that, I said the agenda and they told me it was
on the table and that was all that was there.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Before I get on, I am sorry, would anybody else like to address the
Town Board on any agenda item? (No response) Okay. I will tell you, I know some people are
here for a couple of public hearings we have tonight. There is a reference to hamlet business and
hamlet density zones in that, the hamlet business reference is a misprint. Tonight’s public
hearings are about changes to the hamlet density zones not the hamlet business zones and we will
qualify that when we get to the public hearing tonight. Nobody else wants to address the Board
on the agenda? (No response)
V. Resolutions
2009-66
CATEGORY:
Audit
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Approve Audit 1/6/09
RESOLVED approves the audit dated
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
January 6, 2009.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-66
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Seconder
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-65
CATEGORY:
Set Meeting
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Set Next Town Board Meeting
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RESOLVED
that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 7:30 P. M..
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-65
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Initiator
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-59
CATEGORY:
Employment - FIFD
DEPARTMENT:
Accounting
Fishers Island Longevity Easter,Burke and Hoch
WHEREAS, a
the Board of Commissioners of theFishers Island Ferry District adopted
resolution at their December 17, 2008 meetingincreasingthe following full-time personnel
wages by 7% due to 25 years longevity effective January 22, 2009, and
WHEREAS
the Town Board of the Town of Southold is required to approve appointments and
salary adjustments of employees of the Fishers Island Ferry District, now therefore be it
RESOLVED
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby increases the following
Fishers’ Island employees’ salaries by 7% due to longevity, effective January 22, 2009:
Marine Operation Supervisor - Stephen Burke
Freight Agent – Richard Hoch
Assistant Manager – Mark Easter
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-59
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Initiator
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Seconder
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-60
CATEGORY:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT:
Land Preservation
Peconic Land Trust, Inc. 2009 Contract
RESOLVED engages the professional
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
services of the Peconic Land Trust, Incorporated to perform Conservation Planning,
Acquisition, and Professional Services related to the Town’s land preservation efforts, and
authorizes and directs Supervisor Russell to sign the agreement between the Peconic Land
Trust, Incorporated and the Town of Southold
, subject to review of the contract language by
the Town Attorney. Compensation shall not exceed sixty thousand ($60,000.00) dollars. The
contract term shall be from January 1, 2009 to December 31, 2009. Invoices submitted under this
contract shall be a legal charge to the 2009 Community Preservation Fund budget
H3.8710.2.400.100 (Land Use Consultants).
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-60
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Initiator
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-61
CATEGORY:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT:
Land Preservation
The Nature Conservancy 2009 Contract
RESOLVED engages the professional
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
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services of The Nature Conservancy to perform Conservation Planning, Acquisition, and
Professional Services related to the Town’s land preservation efforts, and authorizes and
directs Supervisor Russell to sign the agreement between The Nature Conservancy and the
Town of Southold, subject to review of the contract language by the Town Attorney
.
Compensation shall not exceed twenty thousand ($20,000.00) dollars. The contract term shall be
from January 1, 2009 to December 31, 2009. Invoices submitted under the terms of this contract
shall be a legal charge to the 2009 Community Preservation Fund budget H3.8710.2.400.100
(Land Use Consultants).
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-61
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Seconder
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-62
CATEGORY:
Bid Acceptance
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
FIFD Fuel Oil Bid 2009
RESOLVEDaccepts the fuel bid of
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Drew Oil, Cranston, RI upon the recommendation of the Fishers Island Ferry District
for
the calendar year of 2009, all in accordance with the Town Attorney.
Price of Fuel Oil $1.56925 per gallon
Price of Delivery $0.00550 per gallon
Total Price $1.57475 per gallon
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-62
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Voter
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Initiator
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
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2009-63
CATEGORY:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT:
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Second Supplemental Agreement to the
Original Agreement Dated August 19, 2003, Between the State of Connecticut, Town of Southold, and the
Fishers Island Ferry District
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Second Supplemental Agreement to the original
Agreement dated August 19, 2003, between the State of Connecticut, Town of Southold,
and the Fishers Island Ferry District
, for the construction, inspection and maintenance
required in conjunction with the New London Ferry Terminal expansion for the Fishers Island
Ferry District utilizing Federal funds from the Ferry Boat Discretionary Program, subject to the
approval of the Town Attorney.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-63
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Voter
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Seconder
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-64
CATEGORY:
Grants
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
2009 CDBG Program
RESOLVED amends resolution 2008-
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
1096, adopted at the December 16, 2008 regular Town Board meeting, as follows:
RESOLVED
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby adopts the following 2009
Community Development Block Grant Program Budget and authorizes and directs Supervisor
Scott A. Russell to sign the CDBG Program Description Forms in connection with the 2009
CDBG Program in the amount of $130,000.
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Project Budget
Home Improvement Program $77,500
Peconic Recreation
$20,000 19,500
Center – Handicapped Lift
Administration $13,000
North Fork Early
Learning Center – Child Day Care
Facility $ 7,500
Robert Perry Child Day Care Center $ 7,500
Community Action Southold Town
$ 7,500 5,000
CAST
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-64
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Initiator
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Seconder
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-67
CATEGORY:
Road Dedications
DEPARTMENT:
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Drainage Easements Pertaining to the
Following Tax Parcels in Connection with the Dedication of the Drainage Area Between Zoumas
Contracting Corp. and the Town of Southold
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Drainage Easements pertaining to the following
tax parcels in connection with the dedication of the drainage area between Zoumas
Contracting Corp. and the Town of Southold
, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
Suffolk County Tax Map Nos. 1000-79-4-17.21; and 1000-79-4-17.22
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-67
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Voter
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Initiator
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-68
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Planning Board
Planning Dept 2008 Budget Mod.
Fiscal Impact:
Although the Planning Board has exceeded the $47,400 budget amount for 2008, it has either received
from applicants, or applied from TDR Grant, reimbursement for approximately 98% of the budgeted
amount and overage.
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008 General
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Fund Part-Town Planning Department budget as follows:
From:
B.8020.4.500.500 Planning Consultant $10,000
To:
B.8020.4.500.300 Environmental Consultants $10,000
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-68
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
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William Ruland Voter
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Voter
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Supervisor's Appt
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Louisa P. Evans Seconder
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Tax Receiver's Appt
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Scott Russell Voter
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Rescinded
2009-69
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Accounting
Budget Modification for FI Sewer District
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008 Fishers
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
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Island Sewer District budget as follows:
From:
SS2.8160.4.000.000 Refuse & Garbage, C.E. $2,000
To:
SS2.1440.4.000.000 Engineering, C.E. $ 2,000
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-69
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Initiator
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Defeated
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Vincent Orlando Seconder
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Tabled
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Withdrawn
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-70
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Human Resource Center
Bud. Modification - Human Resource Center / Programs for the Aging
Fiscal Impact:
Modification of under-expended budget lines to reconcile over-expended budget lines for 2008.
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
Appropriations:
A.6772.1.200.100 Programs for the Aging, P.S.
Part-Time Employees- Regular Earnings $33,411.00
To:
Appropriations:
A.6772.1.100.100 Programs for the Aging, P.S.
Full-Time Employees-Regular Earnings $30,011.00
A.6772.4.100.200 Contractual Expense
Gasoline and Oil $ 2,700.00
A.6772.4.200.100 Contractual Expense
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Cellular Phone Service $ 300.00
A.6772.4.400.675 Contracted Services
Dishwashing $ 300.00
A.6772.4.400.500 Contracted Services
Laundry $ 100.00
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-70
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Initiator
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-71
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Planning Board
Budget Mod - Tree Committee
Fiscal Impact:
Budget modification is needed to cover expenses for 2008 tree plantings.
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008 Tree
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Committee Whole Town budget as follows:
To:
Revenues
:
A.2705.30 Gifts and Donations
Tree Committee Donations $1,500.00
To:
Appropriations
:
A.8560.4.400.200 Contracted Services
Trees & Committee Expense $1,500.00
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-71
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Seconder
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
January 6, 2009 Page 17
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2009-72
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Highway Department
2008 Budget Modification - Highway
Fiscal Impact:
The reason(s) for the above-described transfer(s) is that they have been necessitated in order to prevent
end-of-year under-funding of several line items.
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008 Highway
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Fund Part Town budget as follows
:
TO:
DB.5110.1.100.200 General Repairs, P.S.
Full Time Employees
Overtime Earnings $20,000.00
DB.5110.1.100.300 General Repairs, P.S.
Full Time Employees
Vacation Earnings $ 9,424.42
DB.5110.1.100.400 General Repairs, P.S.
Full Time Employees
Sick Earnings $18,360.39
DB.5110.1.200.100 General Repairs, P.S.
Part Time Employees
Regular Earnings $ 800.00
DB.5110.4.100.905 General Repairs, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Asphalt Patch $ 2,600.00
DB.5110.4.100.995 General Repairs, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Signs & Sign Posts $ 3,000.00
DB.5140.4.100.700 Brush & Weeds/Misc., C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Safety Gear $ 2,500.00
DB.5140.4.200.100 Brush & Weeds/Misc., C.E.
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Utilities
Telephone/Cellular Phones $ 350.00
DB.5142.4.100.550 Snow Removal, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Snow Posts $ 4,000.00
TOTAL $61034.81
FROM:
DB.5110.4.100.900 General Repairs, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Resurfacing Projects $23,960.39
DB.5110.4.100.915 General Repairs, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Cement $ 3,000.00
DB.5110.4.100.930 General Repairs, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Stone Blend $ 800.00
DB.5110.4.100.960 General Repairs, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Drain Pipe/Rings/Covers $26,424.42
DB.5140.4.100.900 Brush & Weeds/Misc., C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Landscaping Materials $ 2,500.00
DB.5140.4.100.125 Brush & Weeds/Misc., C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Miscellaneous Supplies $ 350.00
DB.5142.2.400.200 Snow Removal
Industrial Equipment
Snow Equipment $ 3,000.00
DB.5142.4.100.100 Snow Removal, C.E.
Supplies & Materials
Misc. Supplies $ 1,000.00
TOTAL $61034.81
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-72
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-73
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Assessors
2008 Budget Modification - Assessors
Fiscal Impact:
Please consider the following resolution to modify our current budget. This modification is requested
Due to New York State not reimbursing for education expenses. We are contacting New York State to see
when the money will be forthcoming however this will clear up the year end overdraft.
RESOLVEDmodifies the Whole Town,
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund 2008 budget as follows:
To:
A1355.4.600.200 Board of Assessors
Misc.
Meetings & Seminars $1492.29
From:
A1355.4.500.200 Board of Assessors
Fee for Services
Appraisals $1492.29
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-73
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Seconder
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-74
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
January 6, 2009 Page 20
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Budget Modification - Recreation
Fiscal Impact:
to cover the salary for Jill Franke, part-time account clerk-typist
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund Whole Town, as follows:
FROM:
A7020.1.100.200 Personal Services/Full Time Employees $900.00
Overtime Earnings
TO:
A7020.1.200.100 Personal Services/Part Time Employees $900.00
Regular Earnings
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-74
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Initiator
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Seconder
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-75
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Budget Modification - Historic Preservation
Fiscal Impact:
budget modification to the 2008 General Fund Whole Town budget to cover an over expended line item in
the Historic Preservation Committee 2008 budget
RESOLVEDmodifies the General Fund
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Whole Town 2008 budget as follows:
TO
:
A.7520.1.200.100 Part-Time Employees, P.S.
Regular Earnings $1.00
FROM
:
A.7520.4.100.100 Supplies & Materials, C.E.
Office Supplies/Stationary $1.00
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-75
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Seconder
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Initiator
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-76
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Trustees
Full-Time Employees & Court Reporter Underfunding
Fiscal Impact:
The budget lines for full-time employees and court reporters were underfunded.
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A8090.1.300.100 Seasonal Employees Regular Earnings $2819.48
To:
A8090.1.100.100 Full-Time Employees Regular Earnings $2019.36
A8090.1.200.100 Part-Time Employees Regular Earnings $ .12
A8090.4.500.600 Court Reporters $ 800.00
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-76
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Seconder
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-77
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Solid Waste Management District
Budget Modification - SWMD
Fiscal Impact:
Financial Impact: Required to cover final 2008 costs
January 6, 2009 Page 22
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RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Solid Waste Management District budget as follows:
From:
SR 8160.4.100.200 Diesel Fuel $ 5,867.50
To:
SR 8160.4.500.150 Groundwater Monitoring $ 5,867.50
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-77
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Seconder
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-78
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Data Processing
Budget Modification - Data Processing
Fiscal Impact:
Reason: Unfunded salary increase
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008 General
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Fund, Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1680.1.100.200 Overtime Earnings $3250.00
To:
A.1680.1.100.100 Regular Earnings $3250.00
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-78
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Seconder
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
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2009-79
CATEGORY:
Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:
Accounting
Budget Modification for Historian 2008 Pt Earnings
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2008
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund Whole Town Budget as follows:
From:
A.7510.4.100.100 Historian, C.E.
Office Supplies/Stationary $ 85.00
To:
A.7510.1.200.100 Historian, P.S.
Part Time Regular Earnings $ 85.00
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-79
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Initiator
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Seconder
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-80
CATEGORY:
Organizational
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Appoint Linda Randolph to the Position of Secretary to the Southold Town Tree Committee
RESOLVEDappoints Linda Randolph
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
to the position of Secretary to the Southold Town Tree Committee
, effective from January 1,
2009 through December 31, 2009 not to exceed five (5) hours per week in addition to her regular
35 hour work week, regardless of the number of committees she serves.
.
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-80
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Initiator
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-81
CATEGORY:
Employment - Town
DEPARTMENT:
Accounting
Leave Time Donations for Non-Union Employees
RESOLVEDauthorizes employees to
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
donate unused accumulated leave time to non-union employees.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-81
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Seconder
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-82
CATEGORY:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT:
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Final Application for Federal
Assistance Between the Town of Southold and the Federal Aviation Administration for Runway Crack
Repairs for Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers Island
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Final Application for Federal Assistance between
the Town of Southold and the Federal Aviation Administration for runway crack repairs
for Elizabeth Field Airport, Fishers Island
, in connection with FAA AIP Project
No. 3-36-0029-XX-09, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-82
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-83
CATEGORY:
Advertise
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Advertise for Position of Assistant Town Attorney
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs the
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for the full-time position of Assistant Town Attorney.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-83
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Seconder
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-84
CATEGORY:
Property Usage
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Approve Use of Strawberry Fields for East End GreenFest
RESOLVEDgrants permission to Syd
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
and Deborah Dufton to use Strawberry Fields in Mattituck for the East End GreenFeston
August 1 & 2, 2009 (Saturday and Sunday) from 8:00 AM to 8:00PM.
Set-up on July 31,
2009 and breakdown and field restoration on August 3, 2009, subject to the conditions of the
Town Board and the approval of the Town Attorney. Applicant must file with the Town Clerk a
One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold and the County of
Suffolk as additional insured.
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? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-84
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Initiator
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Seconder
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-85
CATEGORY:
Seqra
DEPARTMENT:
Land Preservation
CW Francis SEQRA
WHEREAS,
the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to purchase a development rights
easement on a certain parcel of property owned by C. W. Francis & Son, Inc. pursuant to the
provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands)
of the Code of the Town of Southold. Said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-19.-1-
14.7. The address is 32400 Route 25 and the property is located in the R-80/R-200 zoning
districts and is approximately 300 feet southwesterly from the intersection of Old North Road
and NYS Route 25, in Orient, New York. The proposed acquisition is for a development rights
easement on a part of the property consisting of approximately 23.0± acres (subject to survey) of
the 26.48± acre parcel. The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided survey
acceptable to the Land Preservation Committee and the property owner. The purchase price for
the easement is $80,000 (eighty thousand dollars) per buildable acre plus acquisition costs; now,
therefore, be it
RESOLVED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that this action be classified as an
Unlisted Action pursuant to the SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6NYCRR 617.1 et. Seq.; be it
further
RESOLVED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Town of Southold is the only
involved agency pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations; be it further
RESOLVED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold that the Short Environmental Form
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prepared for this project is accepted and attached hereto; and, be it further
RESOLVED
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds no significant impact
on the environment and declares a negative declaration pursuant to SEQRA Rules and
Regulations for this action.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-85
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Initiator
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
28. Statement
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, we are going to vote on, I believe the acquisition of open
space and on the East-West fire district this evening.
2009-86
CATEGORY:
Property Acquisition Purchase
DEPARTMENT:
Land Preservation
CW Francis Elect to Purchase
WHEREAS,
the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the question of
the purchase of a development rights easement on a certain parcel of property owned by C. W.
th
Francis & Son, Inc. on the 6 day of January, 2009, pursuant to the provisions of Chapter 17
(Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands Preservation) of the Town
Code, at which time all interested parties were given the opportunity to be heard; and
WHEREAS,
said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-19.-1-14.7. The address is
32400 Route 25 and the property is located in the R-80/R-200 zoning districts and is
approximately 300 feet southwesterly from the intersection of Old North Road and NYS Route
25 in Orient, New York; and
WHEREAS,
the development rights easement comprises a part of the property consisting of
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approximately 23.0± acres (subject to survey) of the 26.48± acre parcel. The exact area of the
development rights easement is subject to a survey acceptable to the Land Preservation
Committee and the property owner; and
WHEREAS, t
he purchase price for the easement is $80,000 (eighty thousand dollars) per
buildable acre plus acquisition costs. The easement will be acquired using Community
Preservation Funds; and
WHEREAS,
the property is listed on the Town’s Community Preservation Project Plan as
property that should be preserved due to its agricultural value; and
WHEREAS,
the purchase of the development rights on this property is in conformance with the
provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands
Preservation) of the Town Code, and
WHEREAS,
the proposed action has been reviewed pursuant to Chapter 268 (Waterfront
Consistency Review) of the Town Code and Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP)
and the LWRP Coordinator has recommended that this action is consistent with the LWRP; and
WHEREAS,
the Land Preservation Committee has reviewed the application for the acquisition,
and recommends that the Town Board acquire the development rights easement; and
WHEREAS,
the Town Board deems it in the best public interest that the Town of Southold
purchase the development rights on this agricultural land; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby elects to purchase a
development rights easement on agricultural land owned by C. W. Francis & Son, Inc. pursuant
to the provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural
Lands Preservation) of the Code of the Town of Southold. Said property is identified as part of
SCTM #1000-19.-1-14.7. The address is 32400 Route 25 and the property is located in the R-
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80/R-200 zoning districts and is approximately 300 feet southwesterly from the intersection of
Old North Road and NYS Route 25 in Orient, New York. The development rights easement
comprises a part of the property consisting of approximately 23.0± acres (subject to survey) of
the 26.48± acre parcel. The exact area of the development rights easement is subject to a survey
acceptable to the Land Preservation Committee and the property owner. The purchase price for
the easement is $80,000 (eighty thousand dollars) per buildable acre plus acquisition costs. The
easement will be acquired using Community Preservation Funds. Town funding for this purchase
is in conformance with the provisions of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and
Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands Preservation) of the Town Code of the Town of Southold. The
proposed action has been reviewed pursuant to Chapter 268 (Waterfront Consistency Review) of
the Town Code and the Local Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP) and the Town Board
has determined that this action is consistent with the LWRP.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-86
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
2009-95
CATEGORY:
Enact Local Law
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Enact LL to Limit Size in Res
WHEREAS
there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
th
A Local Law In
County, New York, on the 16 day of December, 2008 a Local Law entitled “
Relation to Zoning Amendments to limit the size of dwelling units in Residential Site Plans
in the Hamlet Density District in the Town of Southold
”and
WHEREAS
the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid
Local Law at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, NOW
therefor be it
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RESOLVEDENACTS
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby the proposed local
A Local Law In Relation to Zoning Amendments to limit the size of dwelling
law entitled, “
units in Residential Site Plans in the Hamlet Density District in the Town of Southold
”
reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. ___1____ 2009
“A Local Law in relation to Zoning Amendments to limit the size of dwelling
A Local Law entitled,
units in Residential Site Plans in the Hamlet Density District in the Town of Southold”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Section 1.
Enactment
I. Legislative Intent
The Town of Southold’s Comprehensive Plan, comprised of a series of planning
initiatives undertaken over the past 20 years, establishes a group of fundamental goals that
together provide the underpinnings of Southold’s future vision. These goals are:
1. To preserve land, including farmland, open space and recreational landscapes.
2. To preserve the rural, cultural and historic character of the hamlets surrounding
the countryside.
3. To preserve the Town’s remaining natural environment; to prevent further
deterioration of the Town’s natural resources and to restore the Town’s degraded natural
resources back to their previous quality.
4. To preserve and promote a range of housing and business opportunities that
supports a socio-economically diverse community.
5. To increase transportation efficiency and to create alternatives to automobile
travel, while preserving the scenic and historic attributes of roads in the Town.
The Town Board of the Town of Southold recognizes that the local community can
absorb a finite amount of development in order to achieve the goals set forth above. The
development that occurs will result in irreversible changes to the land and the community. The
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Town of Southold is engaged in a process for comprehensive planning for the hamlets located in
the Town, and in 2005 adopted the Town of Southold “Hamlet Study”. The Hamlet Study
represents a unique exercise in Southold’s long tradition of community planning as it was
prepared by stakeholders from each hamlet representing a cross-section of the community. The
primary goal of the Hamlet Study was to balance and accommodate an appropriate degree of
growth in each hamlet. Since the adoption, the hamlet stakeholder process has been re-convened
and the stakeholders are active in working with the Planning Board and staff to plan for the
future of the hamlets.
Presently, there are two applications for residential site plans before the Planning Board.
These projects, if approved in their present form, would yield a significant change in the
character of the hamlets in which they are proposed. The proposed project in Cutchogue contains
the second-largest number of residential units proposed in a single development in the Town of
Southold in recent memory. The impact of this development on the existing community and
character of the hamlet is likely to be profound. The proposed project in Southold, while not as
large in number of units, is large in scale and size of buildings.
The Planning Department, faced with these applications, advised the Town Board that the
current residential site plan regulations are inadequate to deal with the proposed developments.
The current residential site plan regulations lack residential design standards and cluster
requirements. The Town Board, Planning Board, Planning staff, and Code Committee reviewed
the high density residential zoning, including Hamlet Density (HD) and Hamlet Business (HB),
and proposed amendments. A public hearing was held on the proposed Code amendments on
September 23, 2008. Thereafter, the Town Board, Planning staff and Code Committee met on
several occasions to review the public comments and further discuss appropriate amendments to
the town code. These proposed amendments are designed to assure that residential development
in the residential zones is consistent with the plans for the hamlet, is compatible in scale with the
hamlet, and will comprehensively meet the long-range goals of the Town. These amendments
intend to assure a diversity of housing stock, promote moderate-cost dwellings, meet the needs of
the existing population, and protect groundwater, open space and community character. The
business zones that allow residential development have been removed from the proposal at this
time, as the Planning Board, Town Board, and Code Committee have agreed that it is appropriate
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to examine the business zones and their uses comprehensively in the near future. This proposed
law places restrictions on the size of dwelling units in the HD zoning district. This district is the
densest residential zoning district in the Town, and such restriction will serve to achieve the
aforementioned goals.
Section 2
. CODE AMENDMENTS
Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold is amended as follows:
§280-137 A
Maximum amount of building area and size of buildings in the Hamlet
(7).
Density Zoning District
i. The maximum amount of total building area on a parcel shall be
limited to the yield as determined by a yield plan multiplied by
1,200 s.f. (Yield shall be determined pursuant to §240-10B). The
resulting total building area may then be divided into structures.
ii. At least 50% of the total number of units proposed must not be
larger than 1,200 s.f. livable floor area. The remaining building
area may be distributed among units of varying sizes, provided the
total number of dwelling units built does not exceed the yield as
determined by the yield plan. Each unit built may have up to 400
s.f. incidental floor area in addition to the livable floor area.
iii. Total building area for the purpose of this section is the cumulative
amount of livable floor area, as defined below, of all dwellings.
Total building area does not include clubhouse or similar amenities
structures.
iv. Livable floor area per unit for the purpose of this section is the
total area of all floors, including all spaces within the exterior walls
of a dwelling unit, with no deduction for hallways, stairs, closets,
thickness of interior walls, or other interior features. Livable floor
Incidental floor
area per unit shall exclude incidental floor area.
area shall include, but not be limited to garages, unenclosed
porches and decks, and shall not include unfinished basement
area and unfinished attic area.
Section 3
. APPLICATION
This local law shall apply to ALL [new and pending] applications for residential site
plans in the Town of Southold.
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Section 4
. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by
any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this
law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
Section 5.
EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-95
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
??Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
Withdrawn
??????????
Supervisor's Appt Thomas H. Wickham Voter
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Rescinded
????????
Scott Russell Voter
Next: Jan 20, 2009 7:30 PM
2009-94
CATEGORY:
Enact Local Law
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
Enact LL Design Standards Res Site Plan
WHEREAS,
there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
A Local Law In
County, New York, on the 16th day of December, 2008 a Local Law entitled “
Relation to Design Standards and Regulations for Residential Site Plans in the Town of
Southold”
and
WHEREAS
the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid
Local Law at which time all interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard, Now
therefor be it
RESOLVEDENACTS
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby the proposed local
A Local Law In Relation to Design Standards and Regulations for Residential
law entitled, “
Site Plans in the Town of Southold
” reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. _2_ 2009
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“A Local Law in relation to Design Standards and Regulations for
A Local Law entitled,
Residential Site Plans in the Town of Southold”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Section 1
. Legislative Intent
The Town of Southold’s Comprehensive Plan, comprised of a series of planning
initiatives undertaken over the past 20 years, establishes a group of fundamental goals that
together provide the underpinnings of Southold’s future vision. These goals are:
1. To preserve land, including farmland, open space and recreational landscapes.
2. To preserve the rural, cultural and historic character of the hamlets surrounding
the countryside.
3. To preserve the Town’s remaining natural environment; to prevent further
deterioration of the Town’s natural resources and to restore the Town’s degraded
natural resources back to their previous quality.
4. To preserve and promote a range of housing and business opportunities that
supports a socio-economically diverse community.
5. To increase transportation efficiency and to create alternatives to automobile
travel, while preserving the scenic and historic attributes of roads in the Town.
The Town Board of the Town of Southold recognizes that the local community can
absorb a finite amount of development in order to achieve the goals set forth above. The
development that occurs will result in irreversible changes to the land and the community. The
Town of Southold is engaged in a process for comprehensive planning for the hamlets located in
the Town, and in 2005 adopted the Town of Southold “Hamlet Study”. The Hamlet Study
represents a unique exercise in Southold’s long tradition of community planning as it was
prepared by stakeholders from each hamlet representing a cross-section of the community. The
primary goal of the Hamlet Study was to balance and accommodate an appropriate degree of
growth in each hamlet. Since the adoption, the hamlet stakeholder process has been re-convened
and the stakeholders are active in working with the Planning Board and staff to plan for the
future of the hamlets.
Presently, there are two applications for residential site plans before the Planning Board.
These projects, if approved in their present form, would yield a significant change in the
character of the hamlets in which they are proposed. The proposed project in Cutchogue contains
the second-largest number of residential units proposed in a single development in the Town of
Southold in recent memory. The impact of this development on the existing community and
character of the hamlet is likely to be profound. The proposed project in Southold, while not as
large in number of units, is large in scale and size of buildings.
The Planning Department, faced with these applications, advised the Town Board that the
current residential site plan regulations are inadequate to deal with the proposed developments.
The current residential site plan regulations lack residential design standards and cluster
requirements. The Town Board, Planning Board, Planning staff, and Code Committee reviewed
the high density residential zoning, including Hamlet Density (HD) and Hamlet Business (HB),
and proposed amendments. A public hearing was held on the proposed Code amendments on
September 23, 2008. Thereafter, the Town Board, Planning staff and Code Committee met on
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several occasions to review the public comments and further discuss appropriate amendments to
the town code. These proposed amendments are designed to assure that residential development
in the residential zones is consistent with the plans for the hamlet, is compatible in scale with the
hamlet, and will comprehensively meet the long-range goals of the Town. These amendments
intend to assure a diversity of housing stock, promote moderate-cost dwellings, meet the needs of
the existing population, and protect groundwater, open space and community character. The
business zones that allow residential development have been removed from the proposal at this
time, as the Planning Board, Town Board, and Code Committee have agreed that it is appropriate
to examine the business zones and their uses comprehensively in the near future.
Section 2
. CODE AMENDMENTS
Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold
§ 280-137. Standards for residential site plans.
The purpose of these residential site plan standards are to provide for a diversity of housing
stock, promote moderate-cost dwellings, meet the needs of the existing population and
protect groundwater, open space and community character.
A. The Planning Board's review of the application and plans with respect to residential
site plans shall include their compliance with the following:
(1) The requirement that the applicant attend a presubmission conference, at
which time the applicant, the Planning Board and planning staff shall discuss
the salient design features of the application. At such conference, the applicant
shall be provided with a copy of the then-existing design manual as adopted
by the Planning Board.
(2) The applicable provisions of this chapter.
(3) Where applicable, Town Law § 274-a and General Municipal Law § 239-m.
(4) Construction standards and specifications of the Town highway specifications,
Chapter 161 of the Code of the Town of Southold. For the purposes of
residential site plans, one dwelling unit is the equivalent of one residential lot.
(5) The requirements of the existing resources and site analysis plan(s) (ERSAP)
and the allowable density of dwelling units as calculated using the yield plan
criteria for standard subdivisions set forth in §§ 240-10A and B(2) of the Code
of the Town of Southold, Subdivision of Land.
(6) The provisions of Article XI, Cluster Development, of Chapter 240 of the
Code of the Town of Southold, Subdivision of Land, as may shall be applied
by the Planning Board in its discretion to residential site plans in residential
districts, and may be applied by the Planning Board to residential site plans in
business districts., where it determines that such cluster development shall
benefit the Town and the natural and scenic qualities of open lands. In doing
so, the Planning Board shall establish conditions on the ownership, use and
maintenance of such open lands as it deems necessary to assure the
preservation of the natural and scenic qualities of such open lands and shall
not permit the use of such lands for the fulfillment of the park and recreation
requirement. The procedures set forth in Article XI, of Chapter 240,
Subdivision of Land, shall govern except as modified herein. To the extent
that this provision may be construed to be in conflict with Town Law § 278
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regarding clustered development, Town Law § 274-a regarding site plan
review, or Town Law § 267, 267-a, 267-b or 267-c regarding the authority of
the Zoning Board of Appeals, this provision supersedes and amends such
sections insofar as they place any limitation on the Planning Board's
application of such clustered development to residential site plans or the
requirement of the fulfillment of the park and recreation requirement.
(a) Design requirements where cluster development is required:
1. Open space
i. Where required, cluster development design shall set aside a
percentage of buildable land as open space in accordance with the
schedule for Open Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Residential Site
Attachment 6
Plans at the end of this chapter, in .
ii. Open space shall be vegetated, with no more than 15% of the land
area to be irrigated.
iii. Open space shall remain open and free of any buildings or
structures, except those structures related to the use of the open
space, including but not limited to split rail fences, signs and
boundary markers.
iv. The location, use and design of the open space areas will be
determined by the Planning Board using the ERSAP, as set forth
above, and as set forth and regulated in §240-10C and §240-44.
2. Minimum setback
i. The setback from the property line to all structures shall be in
accordance with the schedule for Open Space, Buffers and
Setbacks for Residential Site Plans at the end of this chapter.
3. Minimum buffer
i. The buffer area shall be in accordance with the schedule for Open
Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Residential Site Plans at the end of
this chapter
(7) [Reserved.]
(8) Design considerations:
(a) The location, arrangement, setbacks, size, design, and general site
compatibility of buildings, structures, landscaping, lighting, and
signs, in keeping with the character of the community;
(b) The adequacy, safety and convenience of vehicular traffic access and
circulation, including driveways, rights-of-way, curb cuts,
intersections, pavement surfaces, traffic controls, and designated
areas for access to public transportation;
(c) The adequacy, safety and convenience of pedestrian and bicycle
traffic and circulation, including sidewalks, walkways, and
pedestrian/vehicle conflict points;
(d) The sufficiency, convenience and appearance of off-street parking
and loading areas, including visitor, employee and overflow parking,
parking and storage for trailers, boats, and recreational vehicles, and
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the provision of alleyways;
(e) The provision of and adequacy of emergency lanes, exits, tap streets,
other safety zones, and the provision of fire hydrants to promote the
public safety; and
(f) The proximity of recreational facilities and open space.
(g) Garages should be set back from the front façade of the building.
Two-car garages should either have a separate door for each bay, or
have the appearance of an individual door for each bay.
B. SEQRA review. The Planning Board shall comply with the provisions of the New
York State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), Article 8 of the
Environmental Conservation Law, 6 NYCRR Part 617. [Added 8-2-2005 by L.L. No.
12-2005]
C. Within 10 days after completion of the SEQRA review accepting the application, the
Planning Board shall forward the application to the Architectural Review Committee
for review. The Architectural Review Committee shall review the application at their
next regularly scheduled meeting, and make a written recommendation to the
Planning Board on the site plan within 10 business days of that meeting receipt of the
referral. If the Committee fails to make a recommendation within this time period, the
project shall proceed to the Planning Board for consideration without Committee
review. [Added 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
D. Preliminary hearing requirement. Prior to and in addition to the public hearing
required by § 280-131H, the Planning Board shall hold a separate preliminary hearing
on the application with notice provided pursuant to Chapter 55, Notice of Public
Hearings. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
E. Affordable housing requirement. Every new residential site plan involving the
creation of five or more dwelling units shall comply with the requirements of § 240-
10B(2)(c) of the Code of the Town of Southold, Subdivision of Land, pertaining to
the provision of affordable housing, except in the Hamlet Density zoning district the
number of units to be set aside as moderate-income family dwelling units (MIFDU) is
reduced from twenty percent to ten percent. The requirements applicable to lots
within a subdivision in that subsection shall apply equally to dwelling units in
affected residential site plans.
F. Park and recreation requirement. The provisions of § 240-53 of the Code of the Town
of Southold, Subdivision of Land, pertaining to the reservation of parkland in
subdivisions, shall apply equally to residential site plans approved under this chapter,
except the fee per lot therein shall herein be applicable to each dwelling unit.
[Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
G. Performance bond requirement. The provisions of Article IX, Bonds and Other
Security, and Article X, Required Public Improvements; Inspections; Fees, of Chapter
240, Subdivision of Land, of the Code of the Town of Southold, shall apply equally to
residential site plans approved under this chapter. Pursuant to Municipal Home Rule
Law § 10, § 280-137B, C and D herein supersedes and amends New York State Town
Law § 274-a regarding site plan review to the extent that the Planning Board is
empowered to impose affordable housing, park and recreation and performance bond
requirements in the residential site plan review process. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L.
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No. 12-2005]
H. Phased development. The Planning Board shall permit the phased development of
residential properties that meet all other applicable standards, but shall condition the
approval of the development of any permitted phase upon the maintenance of the
undeveloped phases in their undeveloped condition, and shall prohibit all clearing and
site preparation on such undeveloped phases until such time as development is
permitted. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
I. Planning Board authority to vary requirements for setbacks, building length,
separation and courts, and open space. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
(1) The Planning Board shall have the authority to reduce or amend yard setback
requirements for individual buildings in favor of a perimeter setback for entire
groups of buildings, to require that setbacks from interior streets be varied,
and to reduce or amend the requirements of §§ 280-107 and 280-108, and to
reduce or amend requirements for open space. In making these decisions, the
Planning Board shall take into consideration the benefit to the applicant, as
weighed against the detriment to the health, safety and welfare of the
neighborhood or community. In making such determination, the Planning
Board shall also consider:
(a) Whether an undesirable change will be produced in the character of
the neighborhood or a detriment to nearby properties will be created
by the granting of the amendment;
(b) Whether the benefit sought by the applicant can be achieved by some
method feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than the sought
variance;
(c) Whether the variance is substantial;
(d) Whether the proposed variance will have an adverse effect or impact
on the physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood or
district; and
(e) Whether the alleged difficulty was self-created, which shall be
relevant to the decision but shall not necessarily preclude the
proposed amendment or variance.
(2) This provision supersedes and amends New York State Town Law §§ 267,
267-a, 267-b and 267-c insofar as these sections give such authority to the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
Section 3
. Chapter 280 is further amended as follows:
280-4 Definitions
BUFFER-- A natural or landscaped vegetated area along the boundaries of a subdivision, lot or
parcel, designed to provide natural visual screening through the growth of dense vegetation, and
ideally including evergreens.
A new Attachment 6 is added to Chapter 280.
280 Attachment 6
Town of Southold
Schedule for Open Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Cluster Development Residential Site Plans
Size of Minimum open Minimum Minimum buffer
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2
property space set-aside setback (in (in feet)
1
(acres) (as a percent of feet)
total land area of
project)
<15 20 30 20
15-39 30 35 25
>39 50 75 50
1
Perimeter setback from property line to all structures including driveways, patios &
decks (includes the buffer area). Setback must be vegetated. Where open space is
between the property line and the buildings, the buildings must be setback from the open
space a minimum of 10’ as measured from the edge of structure to the nearest edge of
open space. The portion of the setback not encompassing the buffer area is excluded from
the open space calculation.
2
The buffer is located within the minimum setback. The buffer begins at the property line
and extends in towards the interior of the parcel. The area of the buffer shall be included
in open space calculations. At the discretion of the Planning Board, buffers can either be
“non-disturbance” meaning the buffer area is left in its natural state and vegetation is not
cut or removed, or a buffer can be planted and landscaped according to a plan approved
by the Planning Board.
Section 4
. APPLICATION
This local law shall apply to ALL [new and pending] applications for residential site
plans in the Town of Southold.
Section 5
. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by
any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this
law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
Section 6.
EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-94
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Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
??Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
Withdrawn
??
Supervisor's Appt ????????
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Rescinded
????????
Scott Russell Voter
Next: Jan 20, 2009 7:30 PM
2009-93
CATEGORY:
Enact Local Law
DEPARTMENT:
Town Clerk
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Enact LL 2009 Open Space in HB & HD
WHEREAS
there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
rd
A Local Law In
County, New York, on the 23 day of September, 2008 a Local Law entitled “
Relation to Open Space in subdivisions in the Hamlet Density Zoning District
”and
WHEREAS
the Town Board of the Town of Southold held a public hearing on the aforesaid
Local Law at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard, now
therefor be it
RESOLVEDENACTS
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby the proposed local
A Local Law In Relation to Open Space in subdivisions in the Hamlet Density
law entitled, “
Zoning District
” which reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. __3__ 2009
A Local Law In Relation to Open Space in subdivisions in the Hamlet Density Zoning District
BE IT ENACTED BY the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Section 1
. Legislative Intent
The purpose of this Local Law is to require an open space set-aside in subdivisions in the Hamlet
Density Zoning district, identical to that imposed on residential site plans in the same district.
Section 2.
Chapter 240 of the Southold Town Code is amended as follows:
ARTICLE XI Cluster Development
§ 240-42. Authority and purpose.
D. The Planning Board, at its discretion, may mandate cluster development in the HD, AHD,
RR, RO, LB, HB and B Zoning Districts for residential uses as permitted by this Code.
H. Design requirements for cluster development subdivisions. In addition to the other
requirements of this chapter, the following shall apply: (1) In the R-400, R-200, R-
120, R-80 and R-40 and A-C Zoning Districts, a cluster development design must set
aside a minimum of 60% of the buildable lands as open space lands. (2) In the HD
Zoning District, a cluster subdivision development must set aside a minimum
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percentage of buildable lands as shown in the “Open Space set-aside” column in the
Schedule for Open Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Residential Site Plans at the end
of Chapter 280. (3) Utility and open space easements may be included in the
calculation of the minimum required open space. (4) Roads, streets, rights-of-way
may not be included in the calculation of the minimum required open space.
Section 3
. APPLICATION
This local law shall apply to ALL [new and pending] applications for residential site plans in
the Town of Southold.
Section 4
. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not effect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
Section 5.
EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-93
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
??Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
Withdrawn
??
Supervisor's Appt ????????
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Initiator
??
Rescinded
????????
Scott Russell Voter
Next: Jan 20, 2009 7:30 PM
2009-90
CATEGORY:
Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT:
Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Agreement Between the Town of
Southold and the Village of Greenport for the Provision of Fire Protection and Emergency Response
Services to the East-West Fire Protection District
RESOLVED authorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Agreement between the Town of Southold and
the Village of Greenport for the provision of fire protection and emergency response
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services to the East-West Fire Protection District
, for the term commencing January 1, 2009
and ending on December 31, 2018, terminable on one year’s notice, with payment for 2009 not
to exceed $547,534.00, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
? Vote Record - Resolution RES-2009-90
?
Adopted
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
??
Adopted as Amended
? ? ? ?
William Ruland Voter
??
Defeated
????????
Vincent Orlando Voter
??
Tabled
????????
Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
??
Withdrawn
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
??
Supervisor's Appt
????????
Louisa P. Evans Seconder
??
Tax Receiver's Appt
????????
Scott Russell Voter
??
Rescinded
VI. Public Hearings
1. Motion To:
Motion to recess to Public Hearing
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVEDbe and hereby is declared
that this meeting of the Southold Town Board
Recessed in order to hold a public hearing.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYES:
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
2. C W Francis - Set Public Hearing
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: that pursuant to the provisions
of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands) of the Town
sets Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at 4:35
Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
p.m., Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York as the time and place for
a public hearing for the purchase of a development rights easement on property owned by
C.W. Francis & Son, Inc.
Said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-19.-1-14.7. The
address is 32400 Route 25 and the property is located in the R-80/R-200 zoning districts and is
approximately 300 feet southwesterly from the intersection of Old North Road and NYS Route
25 in Orient, New York. The proposed acquisition is for a development rights easement on a part
of the property consisting of approximately 23.0± acres (subject to survey) of the 26.48± acre
parcel.
The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided survey acceptable to the Land
Preservation Committee and the property owner. The purchase price is $80,000 (eighty thousand
dollars) per buildable acre for the 23.0± acre easement plus acquisition costs. The easement will
be acquired using Community Preservation Funds.
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The property is listed on the Town’s Community Preservation Project Plan as property that
should be preserved due to its agricultural value; and
FURTHER NOTICE is hereby given that a more detailed description of the above mentioned
parcel of land is on file in Land Preservation Department, Southold Town Hall Annex, 54375
Route 25, Southold, New York, and may be examined by any interested person during business
hours.
I have a notice that it has appeared as a legal in the Suffolk Times newspaper, it has appeared on
the Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside and I have a notice here from Mark Terry, the LWRP
coordinator, which says in short, towards the end of his memo ‘it is my recommendation is
consistent with the policy standards and therefore is consistent with LWRP for the Town.’ And I
don’t have any further notices in the file.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on this
particular acquisition. I see a member of our Land Preservation Commission here.
RAY HUNTINGTON: This is a property that was discussed and examined by the Land
Preservation Committee. It was discussed in great detail and we have arrived at
recommendations for the Board and the, it is now ready for action. I could go into further but I
think that is really the bottom line, that it was discussed; the pros and cons and we came to a
conclusion which was recommend it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, Ray. Ray, can we ask you to do it again and do it with
feeling this time? Lillian.
LILLIAN BALL: That is my department. I just wanted to say that this is a really important
piece because you can see it, Lillian Ball, Southold Town. Also a member of the Land
Preservation Committee. You can see that property from the Orient Point park and we gave this
a lot attention, we actually even worked with the Planning Board on trying to figure out on how
we could make this piece be not offensive in the view point area and we really did support the
Town Board buying it. So hopefully, it will go through. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to come up and address the
Town Board on this proposed acquisition? (No response) Hearing none, let’s close the hearing.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: that pursuant to the provisions
of Chapter 17 (Community Preservation Fund) and Chapter 70 (Agricultural Lands) of the Town
sets Tuesday, January 6, 2009, at 4:35
Code, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
p.m., Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York as the time and place for
a public hearing for the purchase of a development rights easement on property owned by
C.W. Francis & Son, Inc.
Said property is identified as part of SCTM #1000-19.-1-14.7. The
address is 32400 Route 25 and the property is located in the R-80/R-200 zoning districts and is
approximately 300 feet southwesterly from the intersection of Old North Road and NYS Route
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25 in Orient, New York. The proposed acquisition is for a development rights easement on a part
of the property consisting of approximately 23.0± acres (subject to survey) of the 26.48± acre
parcel.
The exact area of the acquisition is subject to a Town-provided survey acceptable to the Land
Preservation Committee and the property owner. The purchase price is $80,000 (eighty thousand
dollars) per buildable acre for the 23.0± acre easement plus acquisition costs. The easement will
be acquired using Community Preservation Funds.
The property is listed on the Town’s Community Preservation Project Plan as property that
should be preserved due to its agricultural value; and
FURTHER NOTICE is hereby given that a more detailed description of the above mentioned
parcel of land is on file in Land Preservation Department, Southold Town Hall Annex, 54375
Route 25, Southold, New York, and may be examined by any interested person during business
hours.
I have a notice that it has appeared as a legal in the Suffolk Times newspaper, it has appeared on
the Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside and I have a notice here from Mark Terry, the LWRP
coordinator, which says in short, towards the end of his memo ‘it is my recommendation is
consistent with the policy standards and therefore is consistent with LWRP for the Town.’ And I
don’t have any further notices in the file.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on this
particular acquisition. I see a member of our Land Preservation Commission here.
RAY HUNTINGTON: This is a property that was discussed and examined by the Land
Preservation Committee. It was discussed in great detail and we have arrived at
recommendations for the Board and the, it is now ready for action. I could go into further but I
think that is really the bottom line, that it was discussed; the pros and cons and we came to a
conclusion which was recommend it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, Ray. Ray, can we ask you to do it again and do it with
feeling this time? Lillian.
LILLIAN BALL: That is my department. I just wanted to say that this is a really important
piece because you can see it, Lillian Ball, Southold Town. Also a member of the Land
Preservation Committee. You can see that property from the Orient Point park and we gave this
a lot attention, we actually even worked with the Planning Board on trying to figure out on how
we could make this piece be not offensive in the view point area and we really did support the
Town Board buying it. So hopefully, it will go through. Thanks.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to come up and address the
Town Board on this proposed acquisition? (No response) Hearing none, let’s close the hearing.
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RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYES:
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
3. Set 1/6/09 4:40 Residential Site Plans
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN,
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: there has been presented to the
Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the 16th day of December,
A Local Law In Relation to Design Standards and Regulations
2008 a Local Law entitled “
for Residential Site Plans in the Town of Southold”
and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
th
6 day of January, 2009at 4:40 p.m.
Southold, New York, on the at which time all interested
persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
A Local Law In Relation to Design Standards and
The proposed local law entitled, “
Regulations for Residential Site Plans in the Town of Southold
” reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. _______ 2009
“A Local Law in relation to Design Standards and Regulations for
A Local Law entitled,
Residential Site Plans in the Town of Southold”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Section 1
. Legislative Intent
The Town of Southold’s Comprehensive Plan, comprised of a series of planning
initiatives undertaken over the past 20 years, establishes a group of fundamental goals that
together provide the underpinnings of Southold’s future vision. These goals are:
1. To preserve land, including farmland, open space and recreational landscapes.
2. To preserve the rural, cultural and historic character of the hamlets surrounding
the countryside.
3. To preserve the Town’s remaining natural environment; to prevent further
deterioration of the Town’s natural resources and to restore the Town’s degraded natural
resources back to their previous quality.
4. To preserve and promote a range of housing and business opportunities that
supports a socio-economically diverse community.
5. To increase transportation efficiency and to create alternatives to automobile
travel, while preserving the scenic and historic attributes of roads in the Town.
The Town Board of the Town of Southold recognizes that the local community can
absorb a finite amount of development in order to achieve the goals set forth above. The
development that occurs will result in irreversible changes to the land and the community. The
Town of Southold is engaged in a process for comprehensive planning for the hamlets located in
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the Town, and in 2005 adopted the Town of Southold “Hamlet Study”. The Hamlet Study
represents a unique exercise in Southold’s long tradition of community planning as it was
prepared by stakeholders from each hamlet representing a cross-section of the community. The
primary goal of the Hamlet Study was to balance and accommodate an appropriate degree of
growth in each hamlet. Since the adoption, the hamlet stakeholder process has been re-convened
and the stakeholders are active in working with the Planning Board and staff to plan for the
future of the hamlets.
Presently, there are two applications for residential site plans before the Planning Board.
These projects, if approved in their present form, would yield a significant change in the
character of the hamlets in which they are proposed. The proposed project in Cutchogue contains
the second-largest number of residential units proposed in a single development in the Town of
Southold in recent memory. The impact of this development on the existing community and
character of the hamlet is likely to be profound. The proposed project in Southold, while not as
large in number of units, is large in scale and size of buildings.
The Planning Department, faced with these applications, advised the Town Board that the
current residential site plan regulations are inadequate to deal with the proposed developments.
The current residential site plan regulations lack residential design standards and cluster
requirements. The Town Board, Planning Board, Planning staff, and Code Committee reviewed
the high density residential zoning, including Hamlet Density (HD) and Hamlet Business (HB),
and proposed amendments. A public hearing was held on the proposed Code amendments on
September 23, 2008. Thereafter, the Town Board, Planning staff and Code Committee met on
several occasions to review the public comments and further discuss appropriate amendments to
the town code. These proposed amendments are designed to assure that residential development
in the residential zones is consistent with the plans for the hamlet, is compatible in scale with the
hamlet, and will comprehensively meet the long-range goals of the Town. These amendments
intend to assure a diversity of housing stock, promote moderate-cost dwellings, meet the needs of
the existing population, and protect groundwater, open space and community character. The
business zones that allow residential development have been removed from the proposal at this
time, as the Planning Board, Town Board, and Code Committee have agreed that it is appropriate
to examine the business zones and their uses comprehensively in the near future.
Section 2
. CODE AMENDMENTS
Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold
§ 280-137. Standards for residential site plans.
The purpose of these residential site plan standards are to provide for a diversity of housing
stock, promote moderate-cost dwellings, meet the needs of the existing population and
protect groundwater, open space and community character.
A. The Planning Board's review of the application and plans with respect to residential
site plans shall include their compliance with the following:
(1) The requirement that the applicant attend a presubmission conference, at
which time the applicant, the Planning Board and planning staff shall discuss
the salient design features of the application. At such conference, the applicant
shall be provided with a copy of the then-existing design manual as adopted
by the Planning Board.
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(2) The applicable provisions of this chapter.
(3) Where applicable, Town Law § 274-a and General Municipal Law § 239-m.
(4) Construction standards and specifications of the Town highway specifications,
Chapter 161 of the Code of the Town of Southold. For the purposes of
residential site plans, one dwelling unit is the equivalent of one residential lot.
(5) The requirements of the existing resources and site analysis plan(s) (ERSAP)
and the allowable density of dwelling units as calculated using the yield plan
criteria for standard subdivisions set forth in §§ 240-10A and B(2) of the Code
of the Town of Southold, Subdivision of Land.
(6) The provisions of Article XI, Cluster Development, of Chapter 240 of the
Code of the Town of Southold, Subdivision of Land, as may shall be applied
by the Planning Board in its discretion to residential site plans in residential
districts, and may be applied by the Planning Board to residential site plans in
business districts., where it determines that such cluster development shall
benefit the Town and the natural and scenic qualities of open lands. In doing
so, the Planning Board shall establish conditions on the ownership, use and
maintenance of such open lands as it deems necessary to assure the
preservation of the natural and scenic qualities of such open lands and shall
not permit the use of such lands for the fulfillment of the park and recreation
requirement. The procedures set forth in Article XI, of Chapter 240,
Subdivision of Land, shall govern except as modified herein. To the extent
that this provision may be construed to be in conflict with Town Law § 278
regarding clustered development, Town Law § 274-a regarding site plan
review, or Town Law § 267, 267-a, 267-b or 267-c regarding the authority of
the Zoning Board of Appeals, this provision supersedes and amends such
sections insofar as they place any limitation on the Planning Board's
application of such clustered development to residential site plans or the
requirement of the fulfillment of the park and recreation requirement.
(a) Design requirements where cluster development is required:
1. Open space
i. Where required, cluster development design shall set aside a
percentage of buildable land as open space in accordance with the
schedule for Open Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Residential Site
Attachment 6
Plans at the end of this chapter, in .
ii. Open space shall be vegetated, with no more than 15% of the land
area to be irrigated.
iii. Open space shall remain open and free of any buildings or
structures, except those structures related to the use of the open
space, including but not limited to split rail fences, signs and
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boundary markers.
iv. The location, use and design of the open space areas will be
determined by the Planning Board using the ERSAP, as set forth
above, and as set forth and regulated in §240-10C and §240-44.
(7) (reserved)
(8) Minimum setback
1. The setback from the property line to all structures shall be in
accordance with the schedule for Open Space, Buffers and
Setbacks for Residential Site Plans at the end of this chapter.
(9) Minimum buffer
1. The buffer area shall be in accordance with the schedule for Open
Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Residential Site Plans at the end of
this chapter
(10) (7) Design considerations:
(a) The location, arrangement, setbacks, size, design, and general site
compatibility of buildings, structures, landscaping, lighting, and
signs, in keeping with the character of the community;
(b) The adequacy, safety and convenience of vehicular traffic access and
circulation, including driveways, rights-of-way, curb cuts,
intersections, pavement surfaces, traffic controls, and designated
areas for access to public transportation;
(c) The adequacy, safety and convenience of pedestrian and bicycle
traffic and circulation, including sidewalks, walkways, and
pedestrian/vehicle conflict points;
(d) The sufficiency, convenience and appearance of off-street parking
and loading areas, including visitor, employee and overflow parking,
parking and storage for trailers, boats, and recreational vehicles, and
the provision of alleyways;
(e) The provision of and adequacy of emergency lanes, exits, tap streets,
other safety zones, and the provision of fire hydrants to promote the
public safety; and
(f) The proximity of recreational facilities and open space.
(g) Garages preferred to be set back from the front façade of the
building. Two-car garages should either have a separate door for
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each bay, or have the appearance of an individual door for each bay.
B. SEQRA review. The Planning Board shall comply with the provisions of the New
York State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), Article 8 of the
Environmental Conservation Law, 6 NYCRR Part 617. [Added 8-2-2005 by L.L. No.
12-2005]
C. Within 10 days after completion of the SEQRA review accepting the application, the
Planning Board shall forward the application to the Architectural Review Committee
for review. The Architectural Review Committee shall review the application at their
next regularly scheduled meeting, and make a written recommendation to the
Planning Board on the site plan within 10 business days of that meeting receipt of the
referral. If the Committee fails to make a recommendation within this time period, the
project shall proceed to the Planning Board for consideration without Committee
review. [Added 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
D. Preliminary hearing requirement. Prior to and in addition to the public hearing
required by § 280-131H, the Planning Board shall hold a separate preliminary hearing
on the application with notice provided pursuant to Chapter 55, Notice of Public
Hearings. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
E. Affordable housing requirement. Every new residential site plan involving the
creation of five or more dwelling units shall comply with the requirements of § 240-
10B(2)(c) of the Code of the Town of Southold, Subdivision of Land, pertaining to
the provision of affordable housing, except in the Hamlet Density zoning district the
number of units to be set aside as moderate-income family dwelling units (MIFDU) is
reduced from twenty percent to ten percent. The requirements applicable to lots
within a subdivision in that subsection shall apply equally to dwelling units in
affected residential site plans.
F. Park and recreation requirement. The provisions of § 240-53 of the Code of the Town
of Southold, Subdivision of Land, pertaining to the reservation of parkland in
subdivisions, shall apply equally to residential site plans approved under this chapter,
except the fee per lot therein shall herein be applicable to each dwelling unit.
[Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
G. Performance bond requirement. The provisions of Article IX, Bonds and Other
Security, and Article X, Required Public Improvements; Inspections; Fees, of Chapter
240, Subdivision of Land, of the Code of the Town of Southold, shall apply equally to
residential site plans approved under this chapter. Pursuant to Municipal Home Rule
Law § 10, § 280-137B, C and D herein supersedes and amends New York State Town
Law § 274-a regarding site plan review to the extent that the Planning Board is
empowered to impose affordable housing, park and recreation and performance bond
requirements in the residential site plan review process. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L.
No. 12-2005]
H. Phased development. The Planning Board shall permit the phased development of
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residential properties that meet all other applicable standards, but shall condition the
approval of the development of any permitted phase upon the maintenance of the
undeveloped phases in their undeveloped condition, and shall prohibit all clearing and
site preparation on such undeveloped phases until such time as development is
permitted. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
I. Planning Board authority to vary requirements for setbacks, building length,
separation and courts, and open space. [Amended 8-2-2005 by L.L. No. 12-2005]
(1) The Planning Board shall have the authority to reduce or amend yard setback
requirements for individual buildings in favor of a perimeter setback for entire
groups of buildings, to require that setbacks from interior streets be varied,
and to reduce or amend the requirements of §§ 280-107 and 280-108, and to
reduce or amend requirements for open space. In making these decisions, the
Planning Board shall take into consideration the benefit to the applicant, as
weighed against the detriment to the health, safety and welfare of the
neighborhood or community. In making such determination, the Planning
Board shall also consider:
(a) Whether an undesirable change will be produced in the character of
the neighborhood or a detriment to nearby properties will be created
by the granting of the amendment;
(b) Whether the benefit sought by the applicant can be achieved by some
method feasible for the applicant to pursue, other than the sought
variance;
(c) Whether the variance is substantial;
(d) Whether the proposed variance will have an adverse effect or impact
on the physical or environmental conditions in the neighborhood or
district; and
(e) Whether the alleged difficulty was self-created, which shall be
relevant to the decision but shall not necessarily preclude the
proposed amendment or variance.
(2) This provision supersedes and amends New York State Town Law §§ 267,
267-a, 267-b and 267-c insofar as these sections give such authority to the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
Section 3
. Chapter 280 is further amended as follows:
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280-4 Definitions
BUFFER-- A natural or landscaped vegetated area along the boundaries of a subdivision, lot or
parcel, designed to provide natural visual screening through the growth of dense vegetation, and
ideally including evergreens.
A new Attachment 6 is added to Chapter 280.
280 Attachment 6
Town of Southold
Schedule for Open Space, Buffers and Setbacks for Residential Site Plans
Size of Minimum open Minimum Minimum buffer
2
property space set-aside setback (in (in feet)
1
(acres) (as a percent of feet)
total land area of
project)
<15 20 30 20
15-39 30 35 25
= 40 50 75 50
1
Perimeter setback from property line to all structures including driveways, patios &
decks (includes the buffer area). Setback must be vegetated. Where open space is
between the property line and the buildings, the buildings must be setback from the open
space a minimum of 10’ as measured from the edge of structure to the nearest edge of
open space. The portion of the setback not encompassing the buffer area is excluded from
the open space calculation.
2
The buffer is located within the minimum setback. The buffer begins at the property line
and extends in towards the interior of the parcel. The area of the buffer shall be included
in open space calculations. At the discretion of the Planning Board, buffers can either be
“non-disturbance” meaning the buffer area is left in its natural state and vegetation is not
cut or removed, or a buffer can be planted and landscaped according to a plan approved
by the Planning Board.
Section 4
. APPLICATION
This local law shall apply to ALL [new and pending] applications for residential site
plans in the Town of Southold.
Section 5
. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by
any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this
law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
Section 6.
EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State.
I have a notice that it has appeared as a legal in the local newspaper, it has also appeared on the
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Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside. And in the file is a short term environmental assessment
form for unlisted actions to indicate that it has complied with the SEQRA requirements. From
Mark Terry, the LWRP coordinator which says in effect ‘it is my recommendation that the
proposed action is consistent with the policy standards and therefore is consistent with the
LWRP.’ From Jerilyn Woodhouse dated January 6, 2009, ‘the proposed local law related to
design standards for residential site plans etc. The Planning Board has reviewed the proposed
locals laws referenced above and supports these code amendments. We agree that the hamlet
business zoning district differs substantially from the hamlet density zoning district in the uses
that are permitted and the general configuration and location of existing hamlet business zoned
parcels. The commercial uses as well as residential must be considered when retooling
requirements that address scale. The analysis of those uses and possible new design
requirements will take time to complete. Thus we support continuing to apply the same
requirements to residential site plans that currently exist for the hamlet business district. These
proposed code amendments accomplish this by specifying that the required clustering and size
limits apply specifically to the hamlet density district and can be applied if the Planning Board
finds it appropriate to the hamlet business district. In the hamlet density zoning district, the
permitted uses are limited to residential uses, thus proceeding with these new requirements in
that district should be done as soon as possible. The intent is to provide for some moderate size
housing in the town to balance what appears to be the predominate trend of building large homes
to the exclusion of moderate size units. These code amendments will benefit both the Town and
private developers by eliminating uncertainty and delays through clear guidelines.’ A note from
Charles Cuddy and Charles is here this afternoon and perhaps he would prefer to read his own
note?
CHARLES CUDDY: I think I had a note last time. I have more to add.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Okay. And in fact, I think some of these are repeats in the file
from the previous hearing. And so maybe I don’t think I have any new notices at this time and I
think that is the…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Before I go to public comment, I want to just get a clarification from
the attorney, there is a reference here to ‘if the Planning Board finds it appropriate, it can apply
these standards to the hamlet business district’ I thought it was crystal clear and unambiguous
that we were removing hamlet business from the discussion.
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: Well, as I understand that the, that currently
before the law is changed at all, clustering can be applied to any district including HB or HD and
so the new law does not change that, it makes it mandatory for HD and retains the discretionary
application of that to HB.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I can appreciate that but it references specifically ‘and size limits
apply’ and ‘can be applied’.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I think that (inaudible)
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ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: The size limits of that as I understand it are
not applicable to HD. Excuse me, HB.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The Planning Board has no authority to impose size limits on the
HB zones.
UNIDENTIFIED: That is true.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Kieran, I am taking that as…
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: That is how I understand it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
HEATHER LANZA: Heather Lanza, Planning Department. Do you want me to run through
this a little bit or not? Because there were some typos in the paper and there were also….
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: It wouldn’t hurt to clear it up.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let’s get some clarification. Clear it up with you and then we will
go to public comment.
MS. LANZA: Okay. So, basically these code amendments require cluster development of
residential site plans in residential districts. That is how we distinguish between the HB and the
HD districts because the HB district is a business district, so that is what the wording says. In
our, the formatting made it look like the size limits, the minimum setbacks and the minimum
buffers apply to all residential site plans but they should have been made subordinate to the
clause where it says ‘design requirements were clustered development is required’ and that is
how we picked all that out from the rest of the design standards. I know it is kind of hard to
follow verbally but we double checked it to make sure that, the way it was written in the paper
was not correct. Your version should be correct. The one that you are looking at now. So that
the reserved, where it says reserved, it is number two the minimum setback is number three. The
paper had it different. That is why I thought it was important to mention because most of the
people here don’t have that version. So in section two of the design requirements, six A two, in
the paper it said it was seven in parentheses and it should have been, anyway, I am just clarifying
that your version is correct, it was a little wrong in the paper. Let’s see, the other typo was
removing the references to the hamlet business district in the third local law that is not up for
public hearing but I just thought I would mention it, that your local law still references the
hamlet business zone, so that was a typo because we had gone through a whole version where we
took that out. And I have that here and I don’t know if you decide to pass that tonight, if you
want to look at my changes or if you want to hold off on that one. That one is referencing
subdivisions and making the subdivision code consistent with these other code amendments. So
you could hold off on that one.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. This got a little confusing for me, I am sorry.
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MS. LANZA: That is okay. Here, I can show you what happened.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I understand the clear distinction between open space requirements
and size limits, I just want to make sure that as we march forward that the will of the Board,
which is to exclude hamlet business from size discussion, is inherent in this. (Inaudible) but
when you are referencing 240 you are also talking about, I mean, the clustering I understand but
when you reference 240, you are also referencing size limits. So it is an ambiguous reference,
because 240 also includes limit of size. It is the definition of size. 240 also includes the
definition of size of the residential dwelling unit.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Why don’t we clarify this at our next meeting and not try to
enact it tonight?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. You know what we are going to do? we are going to go to
public comment on this. We are probably going to get clarification on this before we move
forward with the vote tonight but just so there is an understanding, there are some things that are
going to be applied to hamlet density and hamlet business zones and some things that are not.
The one issue here is the size, defining size to hamlet density versus size to hamlet business,
which is a separate zoning issue.
MS. LANZA: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Alright. Well, let’s go to the public, let’s get some input
from everybody that wants to address this issue and then we will try to clarify it. I am going to
call on Mr. Cuddy first, okay?
CHARLES CUDDY: Thank you, good evening. Charles Cuddy. I was converting Mrs. Egan
to my side. She gets a lot of attention when she talks and I was hoping that with that kind of
attention, I would be in good shape. I would like to incorporate the remarks I made at the prior
hearing as part of this hearing, if that is agreeable. I would also point out to the Board that this
amendment, to me, these series of amendments, seems to strike at what zoning is all about. If
you change the characteristics of the zone, you essentially change the zone. If you change a zone
which is an ad hoc change and that is what we are talking about here because you are basically
changing the 46 acre parcel. I know there is another parcel, too, but that is rather minor. If you
did that, you would essentially be doing spot zoning. I think what you are doing here is back
door spot zoning. You change the characteristics but you don’t change the name. I think that is
wrong and I don’t think it should be approved but I want to go a little bit further. There doesn’t
appear to me to be any rigorous planning process that underpins the concepts that are being
adopted. Despite protests to the contrary, there is really no updated comprehensive plan in this
town. The hamlet study that you talk about didn’t ever incorporate this parcel. There really is no
indication that other HD developed sites have been considered and there are other HD developed
sites and I think you have ignored some fundamental considerations. I think that this amendment
will result in significantly smaller residential units and if that is going to happen, then it is going
to impact the value and it means it is going to impact the value of the residential areas
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surrounding this and I don’t know that that has been considered. The way the plan is right now,
the units would be larger, I think the value would be greater, I think that would be a plus for the
surrounding area. I think this is going to be a minus for the surrounding area. I think you also
haven’t realized that the actual number of units are going to increase. Right now, the applicant
has three to an acre. When you get through here, you are still going to have four to an acre and
you are going to place them in half the property, less than half the property. If you do that, you
are going to have six to seven units per acre of building. I don’t know if the town really is
looking for that, but that is what is going to happen. That is the useable land is going to have six
to seven units on it. I don’t know if you considered the tax consequences, if you have over 55
which is the proposal this applicant had, then the school district is going to get several hundred
thousand dollars probably without any drawdown. If you don’t have over 55, you are going to
have a great possibility that the taxes are simply going to be used for more school children. So I
think those things are important and I also think it is important that you take an applicant that has
been here for four or five years and you let him rely on existing zoning and you don’t make it
retroactive. To come here and say to you that I have a plan and I could do this for just a single
house, and you don’t like my plan because I want 3,000 square feet and you would like me to
have 2,000 square feet; I hope that doesn’t happen but I can see with this kind of thinking, it
could happen because I think all we are talking about tonight and the only support that is really
here is a personal preference. What you would like as opposed to what somebody else would
like but you have to be able to rely upon zoning sometime and there must come a time when you
say the zoning that a person has when they come here is fixed and they can rely upon it. If not,
then zoning really doesn’t mean anything. I am just surprised that we have gone this far with
this type of thinking. Board members I know and I know most of you are rationale, you are
sensitive. But collectively, sometimes you make what I think are egregiously bad decisions. I
think this could be one of them. I don’t think it is factually supportable, I don’t think it is legally
sustainable and I would ask that you not adopt it. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board? Mr.
Huntington? I am sorry, why don’t you come up first, Barbara?
BARBARA MACADAM: Good evening, happy new year to all. Barbara MacAdam, Crown
Land Lane, the neighborhood to the west of the Heritage. I just wanted to say that the legislative
intent of this resolution is good in that it recognizes the profound impact that this development is
likely to have on the existing community. I would just like to point out though, under the design
considerations item 10 E, seems to contradict that recognition. And 10 E just to refresh your
memory says ‘the provision of and adequacy of the emergency lane exits, tap streets, other safety
zones and the provision of fire hydrants to promote the public safety’ if you think about it and I
will refresh your memories again, opening up Spur Road and Bridle and or either of them to
Highland, it is going to create a bypass essentially, all the way from Crown Land Lane to Depot
Lane and vice versa. So essentially it will be an alternate route through the hamlet of Cutchogue
which is going to be devastating to my neighborhood. We have 189 residents currently, 65 of
them are children under the age of 18 and the likelihood is that that proportion is going to remain
pretty constant, as seniors like myself over the next decade or so you know, sell out big homes to
families. We are always going to have a lot of kids in that area and you know, part of the charm
of that area currently is that it is a no outlet place to live, it is very safe. You know, our kids can
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ride their bikes, we have people from outside the neighborhood who come to ride their bikes and
jog because they know it is a safe place to do those activities. We have tons of trick or treaters
on Halloween because the parents know it is going to be a safe place to drop off the kids and you
know, they can do that kind of thing. But to open it up to what we call the Heritage highway, it
is going to devastate the area. And when we talk about public safety, I think you really need to
be sensitive to that. I know that the Planning Board has heard us, the message has gotten through
to them. I am at every Planning Board work session, every Monday and in November, they sat
down with the traffic consultants from Greenman, Peterson and from the questions and
comments they made to those consultants, it is obvious that they are aware of you know, how
devastating this will be to our neighborhood and we are not just worried about property values, it
is going to be a true safety issue. It is beyond rural character, it is beyond quality of life, it is
going to be a true safety issue because it won’t be just residents of the Heritage driving through
our streets, it will be everybody in Southold, resident and visitor alike. And you know, we have
all been on Main Road in the summertime during those really busy events where everybody,
everyone of us has wished that there was a shortcut out of that and it is going to be happening.
You know, I have lived in the area 15 years now and that no outlet sign was there before I got
there. so I guess Town Board’s in the past or Highway Departments in the past and Planning
Board’s in the past, realized that was needed. You know, what would happen. So, I just ask you
to be especially sensitive to that as you deal with this project as it unfolds. In terms of the
access, and that has been my primary mission since I got involved with this whole thing two
years ago, to protect our neighborhood because of the traffic and access issues. There are other
things that can be done. There are precedents that have been set for condominiums in both
Southold Town and in Riverhead. And Riverhead, surprisingly, seems very conscious of the
impacts to local, adjoining neighborhoods and wanting to minimize them. So having one way in
and out for the most part and leading it toward major arteries rather than through, you know,
neighborhoods, the way this would, is something that, you know, they are conscious of and I
think that you know, we need to be cognizant of as well. I am going to pass on to you just a little
list that I put together of about 11 developments in Riverhead and 8 in Southold so that you can
look at them and where they are at and where their access points are and perhaps, you know,
something that we can think about as we deal with the Heritage as it unfolds. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
RAY HUNTINGTON: Now that you have put your team together for the new year, I want to
wish you a very pleasant new year. All of you.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Thank you.
MR. HUNTINGTON: With respect to the residential site plan before us…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: For the record, it is Ray Huntington, Cutchogue.
MR. HUNTINGTON: Ray Huntington, Cutchogue. That is correct. I think it is really well
considered and well written. I have wrestled with Southold code for a long time, not as a lawyer,
I am not a lawyer but I have wrestled with the code and I think this adds clarity and it addresses
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an area that needs very sorely to be addressed. It is, of course, very difficult to understand all of
the ramifications that can exist here but I do think it is a good addition to the town code, well
constructed. I think we would profit well from adopting it and perhaps fixing what might be not
quite home yet. However, it is a good job I think. There is one part I would like to comment on,
too, and that is in the legislative intent. It refers to the comprehensive plan. I was very gratified
to see that that reference to the comprehensive plan there because it is on that plan that we build
our whole town code, the agreement in the community, one neighbor to another, of how we are
going to behave. It is an oblique reference, though, to the comprehensive plan and this is a vital
part of our government and I think we need to go further in clarifying what the comprehensive
plan is. This is, it can be the foundation for this kind of legislation in our whole town code of
course, so I look forward to seeing this pass and I also look forward to further clarification of the
comprehensive plan.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Benja?
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Good evening, Benja sledgehammer, I mean Schwartz, from Cutchogue.
Tom, the letter you were reading earlier was from the Planning Board, is that correct?
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COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Yes. A memo dated January 6.
MR. SCHWARTZ: A memo, okay. Have we received anything from Suffolk County?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Suffolk County Planning Commission.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I think we did, the first time around.
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: Yes, it was a matter of local determination.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: That is right.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Okay. So will that carry over to this hearing? We don’t need to notify them
again? Okay. That is good because that was the holdup why you could not make a decision at
the last, after the last public hearing. I am really surprised at one of the previous speakers
references to the law, but it made me think that when those kind of people talk about property
rights, they really don’t understand what the basis of property rights are. The basis of real
property rights are that if you own real property, you can continue to own it and use it the way it
is. If you are going to develop the property into something different, that is not really, in my
book, that is not property rights, that is property developers rights. Not a property owners rights.
Because you know, nobody owns a development on the farmland in the center of Cutchogue.
They own the farmland and whether you allow them to develop that or not, the law is very clear.
That is up to you. The comments made about the lack of a master plan are really, if that is true
that there is no master plan at all, nothing holding together the planning for this community, then
the entire zoning code goes out the window. And what that would do to the property rights all
over town, etc. is be throwing the baby out with the bathwater to go with that. To call this
proposed law a spot zoning is just, you know and to say that there was no thought or no study
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gone into it, I think it is a very carefully developed and deliberated proposal and if the only
opposition to it is that it is spot zoning, that doesn’t make any sense. It is the opposite of spot
zoning, the reason that people are opposing leaving the zoning the way it is is because of the
impact that the development that could occur under the current zoning would have on the rest of
the community. Similarly there was a mention that this new law would make the impact even
greater and increase the number of units to up to seven units an acre and that is entirely up to the
developer how he is going to work that out but to me really, everything he said was an argument
for a moratorium until we can complete a comprehensive master plan and a, in conjunction with
the comprehensive master plan, implementation measures including a upzoning, a density
upzoning, specifically limiting the number of units on this property and possibly allowing
increased density if it is proven that the, there won’t be adverse impacts from such density. But
the current law permitting four units per acre there really was based on planning that foresaw that
four units per acre would be supported by public water and public sewer. And it is very clear
there is not going to be public sewer there. there is a possibility of private sewer but that is not
the same as public sewer and it is very clear that the public water in Southold Town, there is
already a public water shortage. We are importing water from Riverhead. There was, the
impetus for the Suffolk County Water Authority to come in to Southold Town was a shortage of
public water in Greenport. They were pumping the water so fast from the aquifer that the salt
water was being drawn into the aquifer there. The Suffolk County Water Authority came in and
with all the wells all over town, still having trouble supplying the existing current population. I
believe right now we are getting a significant proportion of our water from the aquifer under
Riverhead Town which is much deeper and bigger and not dependent on rain and precipitation
for recharge. But it is also not unlimited. I think we need to look at that and I think we will be
looking at that in an ongoing fashion. But for now, I am very pleased that the Board is
considering at least doing something to alleviate the current problems. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and address the Town Board
on this issue?
ELLEN PATERNO: I am Ellen Paterno of Cutchogue and I also would like to thank the Board
for addressing this issue. It is a very serious issue and I think it is not targeting one development
project, it is really for the, ongoing for the town and all the building requests that will come in.
So it has to start somewhere, it has to start now. And I think it is a very good thing that you are
leaving a lot of the land not built and it is really important I think for the north fork and the north
fork that we want to keep here and a farming community and the other thing is that the sewer
issue, I agree that it has to be cluster zoning but I think the sewer issue cannot be ignored, it is a
serious issue not just for the groundwater but for our water ways, the Peconic Bay. And I think
that has to be an overriding issue. I have written to the Health Department about it and I am not
satisfied with the answer they get, I don’t understand why even public water should be linked to
sewer, having to have a sewer disposal but you know, I think that you, I fully support your
efforts and I really hope that you will move forward in that area and I don’t think that any
particular developer should have the power to say that you need to stop it. I think it is really for
the entire town and the benefit of the entire town.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to come up? Mr. Wills?
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FRANK WILLS: Good evening, Frank Wills, Mattituck. I was wondering how in new rules for
building and clustering, whether consideration should not be given to imposing energy star rules
on new construction and while our new rules are things that help the environment, especially
conserve energy, the other one would be lighting rules and regulations that we are working on
and possibly might be of value to be added to the list.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Actually, you are on the very committee that is helping me work on
that. They were before the Town Board recently to discuss initiatives for the new year, one
being a dark skies initiative. The dark skies lighting initiative. The other one would be to adopt
energy star standards. A lot of western communities have done that, they have done that for the
commercial sector although in Southold that wouldn’t be very meaningful because the residential
sector is the larger block of property out here. We did talk about that, the Board is interested in
hearing what they have to say. Hopefully in the near future we will have something to present to
the Town Board on both of those.
MR. WILLS: Great. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: As a matter of policy, the Planning Board is already adopting a dark
skies review process. When they review site plans, they have the prerogative now to some extent.
There are some glitches, Heather e-mails me on a regular basis to let me know but they do try to
impose a dark sky standard on all of their reviewing processes. Would anybody else like to
come up and address the Town Board on this particular issue? Please.
KELLY EVERS: I am Kelly Evers and I live in Cutchogue. And more specifically, I live on
Schoolhouse Road. So this development is very important to me. I understand you are carefully
considering all the public comments that are being made here tonight, so I wanted to comment
on a few things people have spoken about. Firstly, Barbara’s comments on the safety of the
neighborhood is of course, you know, very important to me being that I have four children and
our lives would drastically be affected by this development in any shape or form, I mean, but the
size that is being proposed right now is certainly unacceptable. Considering Schoolhouse would
be the main entrance and exit point for all of the residents as it stands now. I also would
comment on Mr. Cuddy’s comments. He first said that reducing the size of this development
would have a negative affect on the residents and I can say that in fact, it would not have a
negative affect. The development itself is having a negative affect, the proposal of it. But if it
never existed, it would actually be a very positive thing. Secondly, he commented that changing
the rules midstream would be very detrimental to the builder but when I bought my house, I did
not have major traffic condition and by building this development, it would create a major traffic
condition and it would then be changing the rules, my rules, as a resident who should have rights
in our neighborhood to not bear the brunt of all this traffic from this development. So you know,
I don’t really agree with any of his comments and I just wanted to point that out to you. And that
is really what I wanted to talk about.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board on
these series of legislative initiatives?
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ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: As a matter of procedure, you are going to
need to open up the, I think you only opened one local law. Correct? You opened the hearing on
one local law?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: This one was one. Design standards.
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: Right.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: We still have the size of dwellings to go, don’t we?
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: Yes.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: So we will do the second one?
JUSTICE EVANS: Should we close the first hearing?
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: You should have closed the development
right hearing and then you will need to close this one.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Let’s defer to the public and then we will square away our house in
a second.
PETER LAKE: My name is Peter Lake, I live in Cutchogue, specifically Highland Road. Some
of what I have heard as far as setbacks being 75 feet, is that correct? Is that what the proposed
is?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Heather? I believe so.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: It changes per lot size.
MR. LAKE: Seventy five. What is that in reference to? From my property line to where they
are able to start?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: The minimum buffer. The minimum buffer would be 50 feet as
proposed, in other words, nothing could happen within the first 50 feet of an adjacent property
line and then the minimum setback for a building would be 75 feet.
MR. LAKE: Okay. When you go to all the building department meetings and they keep talking
about how it is going to affect the existing community. I mean, my house is 78 feet wide. If you
tell me less than the depth of my house, no the width of my house….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: There is two separate components to the open space or the buffer.
One is the mandatory buffer of 50 feet, that is a non-disturbance buffer. That is a buffer that you
can’t touch. Then from there you have 75 feet before you can locate a dwelling.
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UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No. That is inclusive?
UNIDENTIFIED: So what is the total?
MR. LAKE: That is what I am questioning.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Where do you live?
MR. LAKE: I live on Highland Road, 2270.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I don’t think this law would apply to you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, what he is talking about is his impact on, in other words, can a
structure be located within 75 feet of his house?
MR. LAKE: I don’t want to be like NIMBY but it is in my backyard. For a lot of residents, it is
in our backyards. I mean, that little of a buffer, how is that not supposed to affect us?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I see.
MR. LAKE: Yeah, you know, I came out here from Queens because of the open space and
everything like that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The Planning Board has the authority to expand open space to
design, in other words, we are starting a new template now on the size of the units and
everything else. The units aren’t going to be scattered along the entirety of the property like they
were before. Half of it has to be in open space. The Planning Board has the discretion to design
or to insist on designs that reduce the impacts on your community as best they can. These just
set minimum standards. They are not…
MR. LAKE: When you are dealing with a property with the amount of dwellings as this, I think
there should be a much greater because of the effect that it is going to have on the entire
community.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: They can impose a greater buffer. This is the minimum.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They can. This is the minimum.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: They can’t clear it within 50 feet of the property line.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: And the structure at 75 feet.
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MR. LAKE: Well, the way it was written, it was just 75. That is why…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, okay, what this suggests is that the Planning Board has no
authority to go less than that but they certainly still retain the authority like they have always had
to make it go greater than that. Expand that. And when this design is being worked on, that is
when you come before the Planning Board and say, this has a deleterious affect on my house, I
want to see a bigger buffer. We went through this the first few times with a couple of maps that
were within a few feet of the property line. So, it is the same process all over again. It just sets a
bare minimum as to what the Planning Board can approve, they still have the right to expand that
separation between new structures and existing structures. They have all that authority to do
that.
MR. LAKE: So it is still pretty much an open thing at this point?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, it sets….go ahead.
MS. LANZA: Heather Lanza. I just wanted to make the point that the setback right now, this
doubles what is in the code right now, so this is actually….
MR. LAKE: But is still not enough.
MS. LANZA: Okay. Well, just letting you know that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But it doubles the hard setback, again, they still have the discretion
to make those setbacks broader or wider than 75 feet. Which they have done already on the first
few designs. That would be the public component where you come in and say this is deleterious,
I want to see a bigger buffer, that is the give and take you have with the Planning Board.
MR. LAKE: To be continued.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mmmhmm.
MR. LAKE: Okay.
STEVE TETTELBACH: Hi, my name is Steve Tettelbach, I live on Crown Land Lane, just over
from Highland. I would like to ask a question, you talk about this buffer. You said that that
would be were there is no disturbance to the existing vegetation?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We defined the buffer, I am going to refer this to Heather, because
we actually had a long discussion on what kind of buffer we were going to entertain and we do
distinguish between a non disturbance area and an area that can be maintained but then we
restrict the maintenance. I am going to refer this to Heather.
MS. LANZA: Yeah. So in places, we couldn’t call it a non-disturbance buffer in places where
there is no vegetation, so say a fallow farm field, it has no trees, we wanted to give the
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opportunity to add landscaping to that if it is all open, so that it truly could become a vegetated
buffer. So the way we worded it, I don’t know if you can see that in the, I could read it if you are
interested.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, would you please, Heather?
MS. LANZA: So here is how the buffer is defined. It is located within the minimum setback.
‘The buffer begins at the property line and then extends in toward the interior of the parcel. The
area of the buffer shall be included in open space calculations. At the discretion of the Planning
Board, buffers can be either non-disturbance, meaning the buffer area is left in its natural state,
vegetation is not cut or removed or a buffer can be planted and landscaped according to a plan
approved by the Planning Board.’
MR. TETTELBACH: Just a point which some of you may be aware of, the existing property
that is owned by the developer is one where hundreds, literally hundreds of trees have been dug
up and removed from right along the edge of that buffer. So it is going to directly impact the
people that live along there. So I think that is something you need to take into consideration and
perhaps it would warrant replanting some of those trees to leave the buffer as it was. Yes, it is a
fallow farm field but there are quite a number of trees….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually talked about that at length and we are insistent on
making sure the Planning Board had the authority to insist on visual screening plantings, things
like that. The idea of a buffer isn’t just to put space in between structures but to present, you
know, to prevent a visual blight. So that was, we made sure that they had all the authority to do
that.
MR. TETTELBACH: Okay. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And if there are any natural features worth protecting, to make sure
that that would be part of the protected non-disturbance area. It is all subject to their
determination.
MR. TETTELBACH: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and address the Town Board
on this? (No response)
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYES:
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
4. Set 1/6/09 4:45 Limit Size in Residential Site
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN,
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: there has been presented to the
th
Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the 16 day of December,
A Local Law In Relation to Zoning Amendments to limit the size
2008 a Local Law entitled “
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of dwelling units in Residential Site Plans in the Hamlet Business and Hamlet Density
Districts in the Town of Southold
”and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
th
6 day of January, 2009 at 4:45 p.m.
Southold, New York, on the at which time all interested
persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
A Local Law In Relation to Zoning Amendments to limit
The proposed local law entitled, “
the size of dwelling units in Residential Site Plans in the Hamlet Business and Hamlet
Density Districts in the Town of Southold
” reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. _______ 2009
“A Local Law in relation to Zoning Amendments to limit the size of dwelling
A Local Law entitled,
units in Residential Site Plans in the Hamlet Density Districts in the Town of Southold”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Section 1.
Enactment
I. Legislative Intent
The Town of Southold’s Comprehensive Plan, comprised of a series of planning
initiatives undertaken over the past 20 years, establishes a group of fundamental goals that
together provide the underpinnings of Southold’s future vision. These goals are:
1. To preserve land, including farmland, open space and recreational landscapes.
2. To preserve the rural, cultural and historic character of the hamlets surrounding
the countryside.
3. To preserve the Town’s remaining natural environment; to prevent further
deterioration of the Town’s natural resources and to restore the Town’s degraded natural
resources back to their previous quality.
4. To preserve and promote a range of housing and business opportunities that
supports a socio-economically diverse community.
5. To increase transportation efficiency and to create alternatives to automobile
travel, while preserving the scenic and historic attributes of roads in the Town.
The Town Board of the Town of Southold recognizes that the local community can
absorb a finite amount of development in order to achieve the goals set forth above. The
development that occurs will result in irreversible changes to the land and the community. The
Town of Southold is engaged in a process for comprehensive planning for the hamlets located in
the Town, and in 2005 adopted the Town of Southold “Hamlet Study”. The Hamlet Study
represents a unique exercise in Southold’s long tradition of community planning as it was
prepared by stakeholders from each hamlet representing a cross-section of the community. The
primary goal of the Hamlet Study was to balance and accommodate an appropriate degree of
growth in each hamlet. Since the adoption, the hamlet stakeholder process has been re-convened
and the stakeholders are active in working with the Planning Board and staff to plan for the
future of the hamlets.
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Presently, there are two applications for residential site plans before the Planning Board.
These projects, if approved in their present form, would yield a significant change in the
character of the hamlets in which they are proposed. The proposed project in Cutchogue contains
the second-largest number of residential units proposed in a single development in the Town of
Southold in recent memory. The impact of this development on the existing community and
character of the hamlet is likely to be profound. The proposed project in Southold, while not as
large in number of units, is large in scale and size of buildings.
The Planning Department, faced with these applications, advised the Town Board that the
current residential site plan regulations are inadequate to deal with the proposed developments.
The current residential site plan regulations lack residential design standards and cluster
requirements. The Town Board, Planning Board, Planning staff, and Code Committee reviewed
the high density residential zoning, including Hamlet Density (HD) and Hamlet Business (HB),
and proposed amendments. A public hearing was held on the proposed Code amendments on
September 23, 2008. Thereafter, the Town Board, Planning staff and Code Committee met on
several occasions to review the public comments and further discuss appropriate amendments to
the town code. These proposed amendments are designed to assure that residential development
in the residential zones is consistent with the plans for the hamlet, is compatible in scale with the
hamlet, and will comprehensively meet the long-range goals of the Town. These amendments
intend to assure a diversity of housing stock, promote moderate-cost dwellings, meet the needs of
the existing population, and protect groundwater, open space and community character. The
business zones that allow residential development have been removed from the proposal at this
time, as the Planning Board, Town Board, and Code Committee have agreed that it is appropriate
to examine the business zones and their uses comprehensively in the near future. This proposed
law places restrictions on the size of dwelling units in the HD zoning district. This district is the
densest residential zoning district in the Town, and such restriction will serve to achieve the
aforementioned goals.
Section 2
. CODE AMENDMENTS
Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold is amended as follows:
§280-137 A(7)
Maximum amount of building area and size of buildings in the HD
(7)
Zoning District
1. The maximum amount of total building area on a parcel shall be
limited to the yield as determined by a yield plan multiplied by
1,200 s.f. (Yield shall be determined pursuant to §240-10B). The
resulting maximum amount of building area may then be divided
into structures.
2. At least 50% of the total number of units must not be larger than
1,200 s.f. livable floor area. The remaining building area may be
distributed among units of varying sizes, provided the total number
of dwelling units built does not exceed the yield as determined by
the yield plan. Each unit built may have up to 400 s.f. incidental
floor area in addition to the livable floor area.
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3. Total building area for the purpose of this section is the cumulative
amount of livable floor area, as defined below, of all dwellings.
Total building area does not include clubhouse or similar amenities
structures.
4. Livable floor area per unit for the purpose of this section is the
total area of all floors, including all spaces within the exterior walls
of a dwelling unit, with no deduction for hallways, stairs, closets,
thickness of interior walls, or other interior features. Livable floor
area per unit shall exclude unfinished basement area and
unfinished attic area. Incidental floor area shall include, but not be
limited to, garages, unenclosed porches and decks.
Section 3
. APPLICATION
This local law shall apply to ALL [new and pending] applications for residential site
plans in the Town of Southold.
Section 4
. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by
any court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this
law as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
Section 5.
EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State.
In other words, in short, a developer can have fewer homes if they are large, can have more
homes if they are small; given a given yield. That summarizes the proposed law that is in front
of us. I have here the legal from the Suffolk Times newspaper, I have a notice that it has
appeared on the Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside and a memo from the Planning Board that
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is dated the 6 in which it says, it ends as follows: ‘the intent of this law is to provide for some
moderate size housing in the Town to balance what appears to be the predominant trend of
building large homes to the exclusion of moderate size units. This code amendment will benefit
both the Town and private developers by eliminating uncertainty and delays through clear
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guidelines.’ I have, also dated January 6, a note from McCarthy Real Estate in Southold. ‘To
the Esteemed Members of the Board, I am writing in reference to the new legislation proposed
for the districts. Although I understand the intent of the legislation in curbing large residential
structures in these districts, I feel that the implementation of this law across all property sizes is
patently unfair. I suggest that these limits be implemented depending on the size of the project.
To wit, one, if a developer has a residential site plan with the affordable component kicking in at
five units, how does the newly implemented state law that gives a density incentive, how will
that be handled? Will he need a variance or will state law supersede local jurisdiction? How is
this coordination been addressed within the code? 2. How about considering an incremental
code that has different plateaus for unit size, similar to the recently changed affordable
requirement. Perhaps the 1,200 square foot restriction could be implemented in projects with
over 20 units. (And he includes a table up to five units, no restrictions. Five to ten units could be
2,000 square feet per unit. Ten to twenty units, it would be 1,600 square feet per unit and over
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20 units would be 1,200 square feet per unit) 3. What about a sunset clause for the size
limitation after a period of time when the unit is sold from the original developer? In Caribou,
North Carolina, their code relative to size sunsets after one year from the original sale in order to
accommodate the ever changing needs of their community. I strongly recommend that these
issues be truly considered prior to a vote on this new legislation and that there is clear direction
given on the record with regard to the apparent conflicts with the New York State code.’
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are on the forefront of planning apparently with Caribou, North
Carolina. Wherever that might be.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: We have a short environmental assessment form for SEQRA that
has been signed and a notice from the LWRP coordinator that it is consistent with the LWRP
plan in the town.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to address the Town Board? Mr. Cuddy?
CHARLES CUDDY: Charles Cuddy. Don’t worry, I am not going to go through it again. I just
want to say that my comments were designed to be cumulative and I assume they would be
accepted that way. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board on
this local law? (No response)
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:
Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES:
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
5. East-West Fire Protection District Agreement Between the Town of Southold and the
Village of Greenport for the Provision of Fire Protection and Emergency Response Services
to the East-West Fire Protection District
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: that the Town Board of the Town
sets Tuesday, January 6, 2009 at 4:50 p.m.
of Southold in the Town Meeting Hall, 53095 Main
public hearing regarding a
Road, Southold, New York 11971, as the time and place for a
proposed Agreement
between the Town Board of the Town of Southold and the Village of
provision of fire protection and emergency response services to the East-
Greenport for the
West Fire Protection District
, for the term commencing January 1, 2009 and ending December
31, 2018.
I don’t think that the full copy of this agreement (inaudible) but I do have a notice that this has
appeared as a legal in the local newspaper, the Suffolk Times and it has also appeared on the
Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside. Can we ask the Assistant Town Attorney to summarize?
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: Certainly. The essence of the agreement is,
as has I understand has gone on for some number of years, decades, the Village of Greenport will
continue, the fire department of the Village of Greenport would be proposed to providing fire
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protection services to what is known as the East-West fire protection district. Which is what
some people call the unincorporated part of Greenport. It was negotiated between members of
the Town and the Village to try and find an equitable way of sharing those costs and that as in
other fire districts, the chargeable rate to the members of the East-West protection district will be
based on the equalization rate of their property in comparison to those in the district, and so the
districts budget would be multiplied by a ratio of those property values. While, as you noted, it
appears to be a long term agreement, it is actually not in as much as it is terminable by either
party on one year’s notice in the event anyone finds that it is unfair in the way that the costs are
allocated. That is the gist of it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board? Mrs.
Egan.
JOAN EGAN: Joan Egan, East Marion. I don’t have an awful lot to add to this and I don’t
know whether I heard all of it properly but the one thing I know living in East Marion that so
very often the East Marion fire department, because of the situation in Peconic Landing, our fire
department has to cover the Greenport fire department, the Peconic Landing to the best of my
knowledge, has still not provided their people which they promised to do in their original
permits; which maybe the Planning Department overlook and they didn’t take care of properly,
an ambulance. They have some type of small ambulette but what often happens, as I said, if
there is a bad emergency in Greenport or at Peconic Landing and they ring that fire alarm like it
is going out of style, my fire fighters have to cover Greenport. There are two fire departments in
Greenport and very often mine has to go up and protect Greenport, the Orient fire department has
to cover us. So I would certainly think at this point that somebody up there or one of the other
departments would write to Peconic Landing and tell them to live up to their commitment and
get themselves and ambulance. As I have said before, you lost your best emergency room doctor
at Eastern Long Island hospital because of the very essence of these situations. Thank you very
much.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just as a clarification, I have actually met with the director up there,
Bob (inaudible) and his assistants, they have actually contracted with Lifestar to provide
ambulance and they have developed protocol on when to call the local fire department and when
to rely on Lifestar. I don’t know if that has had an impact yet, I haven’t had a chance to talk to
the fire department but I certainly hope it has.
MS. EGAN: Well, I still think a letter, I think there should be further progress and much more
commitment on the part of Peconic Landing. They are rooking those people off like crazy.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: In the interest of full disclosure, my father was just a patient there
recently. Would anybody like to address the Town Board on the East-West fire district proposed
budget? (No response)
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:
Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES:
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell
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Closing Statements
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay. That concludes the business tonight. Would anybody like to
come up and address the town Board on any item of mutual interest? I am going to go to Mrs.
Egan first.
MS. EGAN: As my father said, I was vaccinated with a phonograph needle. Joan Egan, East
Marion. I have addressed the Peconic Landing ambulance thing, what is our police force up to
now? I haven’t checked in a while. Are we up to snuff? We still have people out on disability
or pending retirement?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We have I believe, two, three currently out on disability. Perhaps it
is four. Out on disability. We have five in the police academy, we have active about 42 officers.
MS. EGAN: Yeah, well, that Peconic Landing thing, also you know you always need the
policemen to go up there. and I have mentioned it to several Sergeants and Lieutenants at the
police department, I don’t feel the necessity for their burning rubber all the time. I think that
they could, you know, they have to go through Front Street to get up to Peconic Landing at that
rate of speed. It is not good for all the cars, it is not good for the people. Alright, now the
helicopter thing got very busy again over the holidays, holy days, we are staying on top of that
situation as best we can?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, we are. I am meeting with the Long Island regional
representative to Senator Schumer over the next couple of weeks to discuss that and some other
issues of mutual interest.
MS. EGAN: Good. Now, haven’t said it for a while so I will say it again, if you see something,
you say something. You tell a policeman, you tell anybody up here on the Board, you don’t have
to, you know, give them all the, do the best you can because so many times that one little thing
helps the situation before it gets out of hand and of course, I am sure everybody is now familiar
with the child protection agency. So let’s look forward to a better year for all of us. Okay?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
JON FERRIS: Jon Ferris, Mattituck. I have never been here before, this is my first time coming
before you guys and it is not for a NIMBY problem. I watch the meetings all the time on TV and
this has nothing to do with that. This is a NIMIT problem, this is a problem all of us in the town
are addressing or witnessing. I don’t know if you guys have seen it as much, I am in western
Southold, over by Mattituck. Graffiti. Graffiti popping up all over Sound Avenue, all over Main
Road, behind the shopping centers. When you first, when I first saw it there, I kind of said,
alright it is kids. But now you are starting to see it on farm stands and barns and we are talking
about open space and preservation and keeping the north fork, you know, really nice. This is a
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cancer that is going to be a problem, I am a retired Suffolk cop. I did 20 years in Brentwood,
Bay Shore, Central Islip and I watched how that created bigger and worse problems. How it
started out as just kids playing games and then it became competition, then it became violent
with gang activity and all of that. It needs to be addressed and I don’t know if there is anything
going on right now, if there is, great. If not, I volunteer, if the town will give me some paint, I
will go and I will paint over the graffiti. There are a few things that have to be done, I
understand it is not just, go paint over it. You need to notify the owners, you need to , you know,
take care of it. You need to punish the people that you catch doing it. You need to make an
example of them, be it community service where they in fact have to go clean the graffiti. Be it
part of the problem or sentence is they have to pay for the cleaning of the graffiti but it is a
problem I really think needs to be addressed.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I agree 100 percent. It is actually getting to be, there was from my
understanding, an unhealthy competition between taggers recently. We actually had
apprehended one. That case hasn’t been adjudicated yet. It will be a juvenile case but there is
this competition that seems to be going on. We are actually finding graffiti on huge boulders
down at the beaches which become impossible to clean because of the solvents needed. It is not
easy, you can’t paint over a rock. It really is getting to be out of hand. I have talked to the police
chief several times. I know they are aware of it, they have two juvenile aid officers that are
working it as best they can.
MR. FERRIS: I know what they did in western Suffolk, what the PD was doing. They were
keeping a log of the areas where this was going on and they were documenting it and this way, if
there is gang activity or gang wording, logos, tags whatever, that they were able to keep an idea,
an intelligence sort of and keep that. They were also able to, when they did apprehend
somebody, repeat offenders, you can, you know, if you had photographs of the certain
signatures, or whatnot, you can charge him for each and every you know, crime. And also once
you clean the marked area, obviously it is going to become a target in the beginning. Oh, they
cleaned it, I am going to go back and I am going to…but that, once you grab a few kids, which it
becomes easier, to grab them if you know you are starting with a clean slate, the local PD can
now watch, keep an eye on it and if they see something, they can you know, do something about
it quicker. And it makes it easier to prosecute.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Right.
MR. FERRIS: If…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I would ask you to please come and talk to me. First of all, my dad
retired from Suffolk County and of course, he would be willing to go and sit in the bushes with a
baseball bat. That is how you fix everything. But the reality is, any insight you can give me, I
would, and I have to tell you, you are not the first person to raise it to me. Because it is certainly
in a community that takes a lot of pride in its scenic vistas.
MR. FERRIS: That is what, I was listening to everybody at this meeting today and everybody
likes being out on the north fork for the reasons we are here. That is why we are all here. And
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that is going to come in and it is going to ruin one of the reasons why we are here.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Alright. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Come see me any
time.
MR. FERRIS: I will and like I said, I volunteer. I will, if you give me the paint, I will go and
Rocky DiVello said he would do it with me.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: 515 Oak Street. They haven’t tagged it yet but I suspect they might.
So if you want to through a coat of stain on it. Just to protect it from those little scoundrels. I
would really appreciate it. Also, don’t forget the trim. Linda?
LINDA GOLDSMITH: Hi, Linda Goldsmith, East Marion. I wasn’t going to address graffiti
but during the Cochran administration we actually had formed a committee which I was on,
vandalism and graffiti committee which the end result was the signs you see on (inaudible) we
value or natural resources and celebrate our youth. And we actually, I am probably going back I
don’t know how many years, I don’t want to date myself too much but at that point we were able
to sort of draw kids in, we had different hamlet meetings and talked about how it really destroyed
the town and things like that. I think it was a lot easier then, quite honestly, but law enforcement
was a big thing. And the big target then was Goose Creek bridge. That as the big target. And
that was, it didn’t matter how often you cleaned it, repaint it. It was constantly the target. But I
understand what this gentleman is saying. Like I said, it was deemed so distressing even back
when Jean was Supervisor that we actually formed a town wide committee. But just that was an
aside. The biggest reason I was here tonight is I have been very remiss. I have not thanked the
Town Board and most specifically Mr. Orlando for our wonderful park, Southold Town park in
East Marion. I was down there before Christmas with my grandson, playing outside, there were
people playing tennis, there were people playing basketball, there were other kids in the park.
Actually I was so delighted the first time I went that I called the Supervisor’s office and asked
his secretary to tell him how much fun we were having. It is really very, very nice. I don’t know
exactly who picked the playground, I believe the Board and you picked it?
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Inaudible
MS. GOLDSMITH: It is great. It is actually, we kind of tested it out age wise and a two year old
is perfectly comfortable on it, eighteen month, we had a few difficulties but for a two year old
and up, it is perfect, it is great, it is wonderful. I hope a lot of people in Southold Town take
advantage of it because it is a nice, big open space between the ball field and the playground
where you know, free play can take place and it was just really nice. I go, it is nice, I mean I can
go down there and we have a really nice time and it is a very safe, it is far back from the highway
and they have a nice fence up where it sort of dips down, so it was really nice. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: You are welcome. I am glad you brought it to our attention and
we were able to fix it.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And to give you an indication of the hands on approach, he actually
was down there assembling the equipment with the Department of Public Works.
MS. GOLDSMITH: That is what I heard. That is what I heard. I wish I had known because I
would have brought my camera.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: We did. I got pictures.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Oh, you did. Okay. but I do want to say thank you. It really is going to be
great. I know just on our development alone, on Shipyard Lane, there are 21 kids under the age
of 15 so I am sure some of them will be using it. The other question I had is, you had talked
about your insurance and you had said you know, you lowered your stop loss, you mean you
raised your stop loss? You mean you lowered it, right?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We lowered it.
MS. GOLDSMITH: You lowered the amount they have to hit?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: From 175 to the first 100.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Yeah, well I was going to say that I hope you didn’t make it higher. I know
that your premiums go up but if you have another year like this year, you should save yourself
some money. The other thing I wanted to say is, I wanted to ask you about the recreation
department. Are the people who do the classes there, are they like self-employed people or does
the town pay them?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They actually, we pay them by collecting fees. Those programs
generally earn the town about $100,000 cumulatively over the course of the year. We are
certainly, with the new climate, going to look to maximize that even more. And offer more and
maximize profit down there. But generally they get paid an instructors fee through the town and
that instructors fee is paid back when we collect fees for participation.
MS. GOLDSMITH: The last couple of years I haven’t worked outside the home, I guess you
can say for the last two years and I have taken advantage of a great many of the programs and
actually I used to be an instructor more than 20 years ago, I used to teach tennis. I don’t do that
any longer but I did and Ken Reeves was there then and I think he does a really nice job in
providing all kinds of different programs. Now I am taking advantage of some for the younger
kids. But you know, I think he is doing a nice job. I spent some time there this winter and I
think it is nice. And I wonder if the ceiling tiles are put up yet?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They should be shortly if they haven’t yet. I think they were doing
that about a week ago.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: We started painting it all, ripped off the paneling, painting
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MS. GOLDSMITH: Okay. I just wondered. It is certainly warm enough in there, I have to tell
you. It is not, you know, we are not suffering from the cold, that is for sure. So it is…
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COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: So the ceiling tiles and the lighting should be done on the 9 and
they should be done in about a week.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Some of the programs I had not been able to take advantage of years ago, I
am able to now and I am finding that they are really, really nice programs and they are nice, it is
a nice, inexpensive way to do it. And the other thing I wanted to say is while I agree with Mrs.
Egan on a lot of things, I had the unfortunate chore of driving from here through Flanders and up
to Massapequa right after the big snowstorm. I was never so happy to hit the Mattituck or the
Southold Town line as I was at that time. I thought the Highway Department did a nice job. I
really do. I didn’t find too much ice, even on the side roads, I thought they did a pretty nice job
but maybe it is just in comparison to other places but I thought they did a very nice job.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I got the same comment from a friend of mine who commuted to
the east that day. They said when they hit the Southold Town line, what a pleasure.
MS. GOLDSMITH: I mean, once in a while you will hit a road that is really icy or something
but it happens.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Like every other event that takes place, I had phone calls to my
office complimenting us for the job we did, I said thank you and then people calling and
complaining about the job and we said, talk to Pete. So, you know, you bat .500, you are doing
well. It is, honestly, I have to tell you in Cutchogue I didn’t see any problems.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Okay. I just wanted to tell you. Usually I, you know, I tell you when I am
complaining but I figure I might as well tell you the nice things that I notice as well. It is a new
year.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Before you run, go look at the rec center, before it is completed
and you will see the beginning and the end, the transition there. The DPW is doing a bang-up
job in there, just like they did with this meeting hall right here. Some spackle and some paint
goes a long way and they do a nice job.
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MS. GOLDSMITH: Well, the next time I know I am going to be there is January 23 but I will
try to drop in before then.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Well, you will be pleasantly surprised then.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Okay. Great, thank you.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: And I can’t take all the credit for the playground out east, I’m a
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project manager but DPW put all that together, the (inaudible), the benches, they did a great job.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Oh, that was one thing I do want to tell you, the infant swing, the rubber
infant swing for little infants, is kind of falling apart. I guess it is due to, you know, using it a lot
and the weather, so you may have to replace that. That is not a big thing, it is only a rubber little
thing that goes on the chains.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: As the Supervisor would say, come to me on the thank you’s on
that and call Jim McMahon on that swing set.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Actually, I am going to be calling Jim and I am hoping, I have an offer
from someone who was an environmental major in college to try to see if we can put some
walking trails through the rest of that property. Hopefully at no cost to the town and I think there
won’t be but I will have to work with Jim on that. But again, thanks. It is really very nice to be
able to go down there and spend a whole afternoon. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED: Just a quick, really quick. I think they did a little too well on our streets
because I had my cross country skis already to go. Has Southold Town looked at Suffolk County
employees have their own health insurance and they are self-insured, have you looked at the cost
and benefits in joining in Suffolk County with local….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The county executive actually has, I think he is looking at a proposal
now that would allow this mass consortium. Actually, (inaudible) the state doesn’t allow that.
So they have some legal hurdles to cross before they can offer that out to the towns. We did look
at the prospect of allowing, opening our program to volunteer firemen as a matter of current state
law that was just recently passed. We haven’t done the math on that yet but I am reaching out to
the commissioners to determine if there is even an interest in doing that. One of our problems is
being such a small pool, risks can be high. But when you look at 19 years of coverage through
self-insurance, we have saved on 18 of them versus Empire.
UNIDENTIFIED: Well, I hope everybody stays healthy, I guess. The other thing is cablevision,
any luck with channel 22?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, we met with them today at the work session and have had luck,
no? Have we made our position clear? I think, absolutely today it was a resounding success.
They understand that they have an obligation to provide two government access channels to the
community at no extra charge. If they don’t do that, we did raise the issue of litigation today and
joining with other towns.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Excuse me, miss? May I have your name?
UNIDENTIFIED: Inaudible.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Thank you.
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COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: The sledgehammer is back.
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Benja Schwartz. I was there this morning, I think I was the only one in
the audience when the representative from Cablevision came and I think you made your position
clear, the town’s position. I don’t think Cablevision heard you, or us. So if anybody has the
time and they want to contact Cablevision and maybe tell them it is not all about money. You
know? Just two quick questions, if I may Supervisor Russell? Remember we were speaking this
morning, various things about the agenda for the meetings, trying to get them available in a
timely fashion. Have you thought about that? Next meeting agenda for the next….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The agenda I put out is generally a cut and paste by what is
submitted to me in advance and I try to have it out by Friday which would be previous to the
Tuesday’s meeting. I will make an earlier request to all people, all parties that submit to me, that
would be the Planning Board, Heather or the attorneys. They submit the work products that are
ready to be worked on and act on by the Town Board to me and then I put it together as an
agenda. I will certainly ask them earlier, I have to tell you, if history is a guide, people wait until
the very last minute before they give me anything. It is just the nature of it. But I certainly will
try.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I know you do the final…
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Inaudible. Friday we have accepted and Friday has been the date
and Friday, unless there is a change….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We might have missed a Friday deadline a couple of times but we
generally shoot for Friday and have it distributed by then.
MR. SCHWARTZ: I guess this week was kind of hectic. The other question is, the agenda for
the next work session. Someone mentioned maybe putting, the possibility of reviewing the
current town website on the agenda.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, that was…
MR. SCHWARTZ: Is that acceptable to you?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, absolutely.
MR. SCHWARTZ: And if you wish, I would like to be present.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I have a feeling you would be here anyway but I will make sure you
are heard.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
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TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: I would like to comment on something, a suggestion that you made
this morning, Benja, about emailing FOIL requests. I would like to tell you that any FOIL
requests that are sent in to me, my office, I reply. By email I reply to them, they get their
documents back by email. It is quicker, it is more efficient. It is the way I do it.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: What is the charge?
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: There is no charge.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Thank you.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Quicker for me to do it that way. Zip it, get it done, over and move
on. Rather than have employees stand there and make copies and send a letter and go back and
forth.
MR. SCHWARTZ: Thank you very much. Good to hear.
TOWN CLERK NEVILLE: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Town Board?
VIC NEESE: Vic Neese, East Marion. Can you tell us the status of the bus shelter in East
Marion?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The bus shelter, we don’t have a location for a bus shelter, unless we
have worked out the issues with the fire department. I am not sure. I would have to refer that to
the Transportation Commission.
MR. NEESE: Can somebody please look into it?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I sure will.
MR. NEESE: If it is a problem between the fire district and the town, it should be brought to
light what the problems are.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Absolutely. I will certainly look into it.
MR. NEESE: Thank you very much.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Am I to understand that the bus shelter is supposed to be located on the
west side of the fire department?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The recommendation was actually to move it which would be east
of Angel’s and then I think we had a concern because the pedestrian traffic at Angel’s would
have to walk too far away. I don’t, you know, to be frank it was about 18 months ago we dealt
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with this issue and the hamlet stakeholders recommended locating it on the, which would be
probably the easterly side of their property but certainly, I am sorry, easterly of Angel’s but
westerly on their side. And I understand that they were receptive to that but for some reason
there was a lot of opposition like anything that gets proposed in East Marion. It never went
anywhere.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Well, I can tell you that if you are located on the, there is Angel’s, the post
office and then the fire department. If you locate it on the west side of the fire department what
you have it two driveways going into the fire department…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Right.
MS. GOLDSMITH: It is municipal parking, you have the post office traffic, you have the Bay
Avenue traffic coming out of that road which would directly go into the, that is directly in the
path, you know, if you go straight out of Bay Avenue….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Right.
MS. GOLDSMITH: You will hit, you will go into the bus shelter if you put it there and then you
have the traffic coming from the ferry. So what you will have is you will have traffic, if and
when there is a rescue or a fire, you will have traffic coming in and out of Bay Avenue or you
will have traffic coming from the ferry back both ways and you will have post office traffic.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Where would you recommend to go?
MS. GOLDSMITH: No place. But actually, the only place I can even think of is the end of
Rocky Point Road but that is private property, I believe. And I know that is probably too far.
But do we need a bus shelter?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Why don’t we refer this to the Transportation Committee?
MS. GOLDSMITH: I am not even sure you need a bus shelter and I don’t think the park is the
appropriate place because you know, there is…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, we had actually approached the school on that and the answer
was no also.
MS. GOLDSMITH: I know. I do remember that. I was still on the Board at that time. But it is
just, it is a real traffic jam there, especially at post office time, you have an ingress and egress to
the municipal parking lot on the west side and you have, yeah, an egress on the east side and like
I said, you have the ferry traffic and you still have people making their u-turns in front of the fire
department. And you do have the Bay Avenue traffic in and out. So you, you know, you may
want to consider that because if a bus is sitting there, what will happen is the traffic from the
ferry will go around the bus and inevitably there will be somebody going into the parking lot
from the post office. So.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Anything that gets located there would require a sign off from the
Department of State because of the state highway.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: But I will certainly follow up on the status.
MS. GOLDSMITH: I mean, a little further west, but that is private property as well, might not
be so bad. Even at the corner of um, no, you know, even a little further east but that is probably
private property as well. Rocky Point Road.
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: Where does the S-92 stop now out there?
MS. GOLDSMITH: Stops maybe just a little bit west of Angel’s store. That is…
COUNCILMAN ORLANDO: West of the fire department there?
MS. GOLDSMITH: No. Yes, it is west of the fire department. Probably 100 feet, maybe 200
feet west of the fire department.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I will bring the issues to the Transportation Commission and find
out the status.
MS. GOLDSMITH: Thank you.
MR. NEESE: One quick thing. When does the Transportation Commission meet? Do they have
regular meetings and are there minutes?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: On Monday’s at 10:00 once a month. But I was just looking
today and I didn’t see their schedule for January.
MR. NEESE: Thank you very much.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I would ask you to contact Ruthanne in my office and she will
contact their chairman, Neb Braschich and get that information for you. Anybody else? (No
response)
Motion To:
Adjourn Town Board Meeting
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED
that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned at
__________ P.M.
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Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Scott Russell, Supervisor
SECONDER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYES:
Ruland, Orlando, Krupski Jr., Wickham, Evans, Russell