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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN ROAD-STATE ROAD 25 GOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11¢~'71
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, .IR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWlCK[
TO: Judith T. Terry, Town CLerk
FROM:
Linda Kowalski, Secretary
DATE: October 29, 1985
SUBJECT: Your Recent Request(s) Dated October 25, 1985
Local Law #14-1985 Waiver Application(s)
In response to your recent inquiry, this will confirm that
we do not have an application pending under any of the
following names and locations:
y Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc. relative to
constructiOn of_a new terminal building at
Main Road~ Orient, except a conditional
variance rendered Apr(1 19, 1984 under Appeal
No. 3219 (copy attached).
Margery Dickinson BUrns, premises known as
53246 Main Road~ Southold (1000-61-1-8.1),
(except October 23, 1985 letter, attached).
Attachments (2)
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
October 25, 1985
To:
From:
Re;
Southold Town Planning Board j
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Southold Town Building Department
Judith T. Terry, Town Clerk
Waiver Request - Ward Associates, P.C.
re: Cross Sound Ferry
Services, Inc.
Please submit all pertinent data in your files pertaining to the waiver request
of Ward Associates, P.C, on behalf of Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
relative to the construction of a new terminal building at Orient Point.
Attachment
WARD ASSOCIATESj P, C, Landscape Architects, Architects,
October 24, 1785
Town Board
Town of Southold
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
RECEIVED
OCT 2, 5 1985
Town Clerk Southold
Re:
Building Moratorium, Commercial Zone
Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
Attention Town Board:
Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc. respectfully requests a waiver from the building
moratorium Local Law 14-85, on ferry terminal property at Orient Point, Town of
Southold to construct a new terminal building in accordance with drawings filed
with the Town Building Department.
Thank you for your consideration.
Very truly yours,
Richord G. Ward
Board Chairman
RGW:am
LONG ISLAND MACARTHUR A[RPORT, 100 ARRIVAl_ AVENUE, RONKONKOMA, NEW YORK 11779 |5161 588-2626
JOSEPH T. SAN~EV£RINO
COMMUNITY D£VELOPMENT DIF~ECTOR
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
COUNTY EXECUT % E
HOWARD DEMARTINI
,uly 19 4 appeals
Tom ot 8out old
Messrs. G. Proud and P. Lyons
Corresponding Secretaries
Orient Association, P.O. Box 44RD #1
Orient, New York 11957
Dear Mr. Proud and Mr. Lyons:
We have received
environmental considerations
the Orient Point ferry.
your letter of June 17, 1984 regarding
with respect to terminal improvements for
This office does not agree with your thesis that the project
will have a significant effect on the quality of the human environment.
In order to document this determination a detailed statement on the
environmental impact of the proposed action has been prepared. This
detailed statement, an Environmental Review Record (ERR), was prepared
because the scale of the project did not mandate the preparation of an
Environmental Impact Statement (EIS). The ERR incorporates comprehensive
review under all laws and authorities including NEPA and is in compliance
with the requirements and obligations of the same.
The Orient Association has expressed concern regarding a
possible increase in traffic due to the upgrading of the ferry terminal.
Your letter states that NYSDOT (1981J projected 400,000 cars and 18,000
trucks by 1991. We ~ere unable to verify this figure When the 1981
study was reviewed. In 1981 annual ridership was 97,000 cars and 7,000
trucks~ In 1983 the ridership was 119,300 cars. Based on these figures
the 1991 projection should be 157,600 cars. For the same year (1983)
the number of trucks was 12,000; by the same straight line projection
truck traffic should be 9,200 in 1991.
The Town of Southold requested Community Development (HUD)
participation in the project because the project will generate employ-
ment opportunities for Southold residents. Involvement of federal
Community Development funds in the entire project is 10% or less.
Messrs. G. Proud and P. Lyons
July 12, 1984
Page 2
Your letter states that the County reviewed the project as a
single entity for environmental purposes. Please be advised that this
was not the procedure followed. Under 24 CFR Part 58.32 "a recipient
must group together and evaluate as a single project all individual
activities which are related either geographically or functionally, or
are logical parts of a composite of contemplated actions.., even if some
of the activities are to be funded by other than Title I funds or carried
out by someone else". The Environmental Review Record available in this
office evidences that project aggregation was not ignored. Placement
of new dolphins, paving of the staging area, a new terminal building,
replacement of ferry dock and bulkheading, maintenance dredging, and
vehicular ingress and egress were evaluated in aggregate and
cumulatively.
The review conducted by the Community Development staff
considered the cummulative effects of the improvements. The parking lot
changes proposed does not include an expansion, but rather paving of the
existing staging area. Runoff will be channeled into French drains, an
improvement over the present method. The new terminal building will be
located above the 100 year flood level and will contain"~restroom
facilities accessible to the handicapped; both features are required by
law and are not available in the present structure.
Your statement regarding estimated daily fresh water demand of
22,500 gallons is iu error. This is the standard which describes the
peak demand required by the Department of Health for the pump and in no
way reflects estimated daily demand. Provision has been made for sewage
disposal by increasing the number of cesspools amd grouping them for more
effective treatment of waste water. As stated previously, runoff will
be contained on site through the use of French drains. Entrance to
Orient Beach State Park is 1,200' from the project and the wildlife
sanctuary at the western most tip of the park is over four miles away.
The environmental assessment of the project adequately assesses the
risks to wildlife, the ecological and environmental concerns with respect
to water availability, water and air pollution.
None of the impacts meet SEQRA thresholds for an environmental
impact statement (EIS). This project does not involve the physical
alteration of 10 acres, will not use ground water in excess of 2 million
gallons per day, will not provide parking for 1,000 vehicles amd does
not provide for a building expansion of more than 100,000 square feet of
gross floor area. In aggregate the project does not meet 50% (or 25%)
of any threshold. The project is not within nor contiguous to Orient
Beach State Park or any Critical Environmental Area. (See 617.7).
The project and its component actions have been studied in
detail. The record will show that this office has consulted with the
State Department of Environmental Conservation, U.S. Department of
Environmental Protection, State Department of Transportation, U.S.
Messrs. G. Proud and P. Lyons
July 12, 1984
Page 3
Department of Housing and Urban Development, To~ of Southold, Council
on Environmental Quality, Suffolk County Planning Commission, New York
State Department of State (Coastal Management Commission). Ambient air
quality standards have been c~mmulted as was the Suffolk County
Department of Health.
In considering alternatives, the scope of the project must be
kept in mind. Public and private funds are being proposed to upgrade
an existing facility. It is no~ feasible to terminate service across
the Sound from this point. The entire population of the North Fork from
Riverhead eastward would be forced to go to Port Jefferson or to the
bridges at Throgs Neck or ~ites~ome for access to New England. Prior
attempts have been made to estaS!ish ferry service across Long Island
Sound from Greenport, Wading River and East Hampton without success.
The Rye to Oyster Bay Bridge prop=sal is not considered a viable alterna-
tive. If the Cross Sound Ferry. vere to move to another location on the
North Fork at Orient the traffic problem would not be solved and any
other location in this area would be more ecologically sensitive. Term-
ination of service or establiskmant of new service is not now feasible.
The alternative of "no project" would leave the existing
conditions intact: poorly paved staging area without adequate drainage;
small terminal building with restrooms ttnaccessible to handicapped
persons; unimproved pier; and doSpkins that are inadequate and possibly
dangerous for proper docking of ~ke ferries. Existing congestion, noise
and traffic would not change, would not improve, and would not go away.
There is no feasible alternative, lhe transportation needs of over a
million residents of Suffolk County meed to be served, as do the needs
of over 40,000 year round residents of the To~ of Riverhead, Sonthold
and Shelter Island.
In closing, there is a need for %his project. There is no
other location available or feasible, and design of the improvements
is constrained by availability of land, wind and tide patterns,
ordinances and regulations. There are always environmental consider-
ations. We have tried to weigh the benefits and disadvantages so that
the most people will be assisted with the least damage to the environ-
ment and in accordance with our ince:-pre*~ation of the law.
Sincerely,
Joseph T. Sanseverino
Community Development Director
JTS/SDW/ll
Enc.
cc: NYS Dept. of Environmental Cc~serv. ation
Council on Environmental Quality
Southold Town Board of Appea!~
Southold Town Planning Board
NYS Dept. of Transportation
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
COUNTY EXECUTIVE
July 12, 1984
Town ol S° It
Mr. John Contiguglia
Box 182
Orient, New York 11957
Dear Mr. Contiguglia:
I have received your letter of June 16, 1984 in which you
object to the release of state and federal funds for the development and
renovation of the ferry terminal at Orient Point without a "prior
environmental impact study". A "prior environmental impact study"
defined under the Community Development Program as an Environmental
Review Record (ERR) has been completed, and a determination of no
significant impact was made on this project.
No significant impact on the environment will result from the
upgrading and renovation of the ferry terminal, because the proposed
improvements are not large scale. The parking lot to be paved is the
existing staging area presently in use for loading the ferry. An
upgraded pier is necessary to serve a vessel which is already in use
and has been in use for approximately a year. New restroom facilities
are a replacement for those presently in use which are not designed
for accessibility to the handicapped.
A larger docking facility or paved stagf_ng area will not
encourage more traffic on Route 25. The traffic is already there. The
inevitable growth of Long Island has caused an increased demand for
Cross Sound Ferry services. The demand for service to New England from
East End farmers, businesses and residents already exists. The present
adverse impact is that this traffic is not being handled efficiently.
In 1981, there were 7,000 trucks, in 1982 - 10,000 and in 1983 - 12,000
using the ferry. Peak ridership is during the s--~er. Annual passenger
vehicles in 1981 were 97,000, in 1982 - 94,500, and in 1983 - 119,300.
It is the objective of this project to move efficiently to handle the
existing traffic.
Hr. John Contiguglia
July 12, 1984
Page 2
A detailed environmental review record (ERR) has been prepared
for this project and has been reviewed by other agencies involved im
environmental protection. This document is required before federal funds
may be used. In the opinion of this office, an environmental impact
statement (EIS) is not necessary, as the minimum threshold requiring it
has not been reached.
Sincerely,
Joseph T. Sanseverino
Community Development Director
JTS/SDW/ll
cc: NYS Department of Environmental Conservation
Council on Evironmental Quality
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Southold Town Planning Board
NYS Department of Transportation
COUNTY OF SUFFOLKO
PETER F. COHALAN
COUNTY EXECUTIVE
HOWARD DEMARTiNI
July 12, 1984
Board of/ ,upeals
T0v n ot Southold
Mr. Patrick E. Lyons
P.O. Box 328
Orient, N.Y. 11957
Dear Mr. Lyons:
This letter is being sent in response to the concerns raised in
your June 13, 1984 letters regarding the proposed Community Development
improvements at the Orient Point Ferry Terminal, in the To.mol Southold.
You state in your letter that you object to the finding of "no
significant effect on the environment" for the above mentioned project,
and that you feel that there was insufficient input from the affected
communities. Our office believes that there was extensive opportunity
for public comment regarding the above mentioned project during the 4
public forums arranged by the NYS DOT. Forums were held in March 1981
in Hauppauge, New Haven, Southold, and Hempstead. As per the NYS DOT
report regarding the 4 public forums, public consensus was that "improved
ferry service is both desirable and feasible".
You also state in your letter that the proposed improvements
will contribute to automobile pollution, noise, and congestion. It is
our contention that future increases in ridership will come as a result
of demand, not as a result of terminal improvements. The proposed
project is expected to increase the orderliness and efficiency of the
terminal operation. Improved efficiency with respect to passenger
check-in and vehicle traffic control will relieve congestion on the local
roads caused by vehicles waiting to enter the staging area.
In your letter you suggest that the Cross Sound Ferry Company
should 'seek alternate landing sites thereby protecting the environment
from further damage. Alternate landing sites would necessitate improve-
ments and modifications to the existing natural environment thereby
impacting additional sites. Ferry service from the existing site to
New London has been provided since the 1930's. Planned improvemeuts
Mr. Patrick E. Lyons
July 12, 1984
Page 2
are not expected to significantly impact the already modified environ-
ment at the Orient site. Findings of the Long Island Sound Ferry Service
Improvement Study indicate that service improvements are both necessary
and desirable. As this study was made part of our Environmental Review,
by reference, the findings contained therein are also considered part of
the Environmental Review analysis.
JTS/OVT/ll
Sincerely,
Joseph T. Sanseverino /
Community Development Director
cc: NYS Department of Environmental Conservation
Council on Environmental Quality
Southold Town Board of Appeals ~
Southold Town Planning Board
NYS Department of Transportation
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
COUNTY EXECUT',% E
,uly,2, 1984 ozrdol DD Is
Tom ol Southold
Messrs. G. Proud and P. Lyons
Corresponding Secretaries
Orient Association, P.O. Box 44 RD #1
Orient, New York 11957
RE: Cross Sound Ferry
Dear Mr. Proud and Mr. Lyons:
We have received your letter of June 17, 1984 regarding
environmental considerations with respect to terminal improvements for
the Orient Point ferry. .
This office does not agree with your thesis that the project
will have a significant effect on the quality of the human environment.
In order to document this determination a detailed statement on the
environmental impact of the proposed action has been prepared. This
detailed statement, an Environmental Review Record (ERR), was prepared
because the scale of the project did not mandate the preparation of an
Environmental Impact Statement (EIS). The ERR incorporates comprehensive
review under all laws and authorities including NEPA and is in compliance
with the requirements and obliga~iohg of the same.
The Orient Association has expressed concern regarding a
possible increase in traffic due to tke upgrading of the ferry terminal.
Your letter states that NYSDOT (1981) projected 400,000 cars and 18,000
trucks by 1991. We were unable to verify this figure ~hen the 1~81
study was reviewed. In 1981 annual ridership was 97,000 cars and 7,000
trucks. In 1983 the ridership was 1t9,300 cars. Based on these figures
the 1991 projection should be 157,600 cars. For the same year-(1983)
the number of trucks was 12,000; by the same straight line projection
truck traffic should be 9,200 in 1991.
The Town of Southold requested Community Development (HUD)
participation in the project because the project will generate employ-
ment opportunities for Southold residents. Involvement of federal
Community Development funds in the entire project is 10% or less.
Messrs. G. Proud and P. Lyons
July 12, 1984
Page 2
Your letter states that the County reviewed the project as a
single entity for environmental purposes. Please be advised that this
was uot the procedure followed. Under 24 CFR Part 58.32 "a recipient
must group together and evaluate as a single project all individual
activities which are related either geographically or functionally, or
are logical parts of a composite of contemplated actions.., even if some
of the activities are to be funded by other than Title I funds or carried
out by someone else". The Environmental Review Record available in this
office evidences that project aggregation was not ignored. Placement
of new dolphins, paving of the staging area, a new terminal building,
replacement of ferry dock and bulkheading, maintenance dredging, and
vehicular ingress and egress were evaluated in aggregate and
cumulatively.
The review conducted by the Community Development staff
considered the c,,mmulative effects of the improvements. The parking lot
changes proposed does not include an expansion, but rather paving of the
existing staging area. Runoff will be channeled into French drains, an
improvement over the present method. The new terminal building will be
located above the 100 year flood' level and will contain restroom
facilities accessible to the handicapped; both features are required by
law and are not available in the present structure.
Your statement regarding estimated daily fresh water demand of
22,500 gallons is in error. This is the standard which describes the
peak demand required by the Department of Health for the pump and in
way reflects estimated daily demand. Provision has been made for sewage
disposal by increasing the number of cesspools and grouping them for more
effective treatment of waste water. As stated previously, runoff will
be contained on site through the use of French drains. Entrance to
Orient Beach State Park is 1,200' from the project and the wildlife
sanctuary at the western most tip of the park is over four miles away.
The environmental assessment of the project adequately assesses the
risks to wildlife, the ecological and environmental concerns with respect
to water availability, water andair.-pollution.
None of the impacts meet SEQRA thresholds for an environmental
impact statement (EIS). This project does not involve the physical
alteration of 10 acres, will not use ground water in excess of 2 million
gallons per day, will not provide parking for 1,000 vehicles and does
not provide for a building expansion of more than 100,000 square feet'of
gross floor area. In aggregate the project does not meet 50% (or 25%)
of any threshold. The project is not within nor contiguous to_Orient
Beach State Park or any Critical Environmental Area. (See 617.7).
The project and its component actions have been studied in
detail. The record will show that this office has consulted with the
State Department of Environmental Conservation, ~U.S. Department of
Environmental Protection, State Department of Transportation, U.S.
Messrs. G. Proud and P. Lyons
July 12, 1984
Page 3
Department of Housing and Urban Development, To~ of Southold, CO~L,~cil
on Environmental Quality, Suffolk County Planning Commission, New York
State Department of State (Coastal ~anagement Commission). Ambient air
quality standards have been cot-suited as was the Suffolk County
Department of Health. ~
In considering alternatives, the scope of the project must be
kept in mind. Public and private funds are being proposed to upgrade
an existin~ facility. It is no~ feasible to terminate service across
the Sound from this point. The entire population of the North Fork from
Riverhead eastward would be forced to go to Port Jefferson or to the
bridges at Throgs Neck or ~%itescome for access to New England. Prior
attempts have been made to es~ab!ish ferry service across Long Island
Sound from Greenport, Wading River and East Hampton without success.
The Rye to Oyster Bay Bridge prop=sal is not considered a viable alterna-
tive. If the Cross Sound Ferry were to move to another location on the
North Fork at Orient the traffic problem would not be solved and any
other location in this area would be more ecologically sensitive. Term-
ination of service or establiskment of new service is not now feasible.
The alternative of "no project" would leave the existing
conditions intact: poorly paved staging area without adequate drainage;
small terminal building with restrooms tn/accessible to handicapped
persons; unimproved pier; and dolpkins that are inadequate and possibly
dangerous for proper docking of the ferries. Existing congestion, noise
and traffic would not change, would not imp_rove, and would not go away."
There is no feasible alternative. .~ne transportation needs of over a
million residents of Suffolk Con, ti need to be served, as do the needs
of over 40,000 year round residents of the ~o%~ of Riverhead, Southold
and Shelter Island.
In closing, there is a need for this project. There is no
other location available or feasible, and design of the improvements
is constrained by availability of land, wind and tide patterns,
ordinances and regulations. T~ere" are always environmental consider-
ations. We have tried to weigh =he benefits and disadvantages so that
the most people will be assisted with the least damage to the environ-
ment and in accordance with our iuce--?retation of the law.
Sincerely, ,
3oseph T. Sanseverino
Corz~unity Development Director
JTS/SDW/ll
Enc.
cc: NYS Dept. of Environmental Co~sa~v. ation
Council on Environmental Quali--i
Southold Town Board of Appea!~
Southold Town Planning Board
NYS Dept. of Transportation
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
COUNTY EXECUTIVE
HOWARm DE:MARTINI
-~E~JTy COUNTY EXE(;UTfVE
July 12,198 ,
Town
Mr. John Conti§uglia
Box 182
Orient, New York 11957
P~: Cross Sound Terry Terminal
Dear ~r. Contiguglia:
I have received your letter of June 16, 1984 in which you
object to the release of state and federal funds for the development and
renovation of the ferry terminal at Orient Point ~thout a "prior
environmental impact study". A "prior environmental impact study"
defined under the Community Development Program as an Environmental.
Review Record (ERR) has been completed, and a determination of no
significant impact was made on this project.
No significant impact on the environment will result from the
upgrading and renovation of the ferry terminal, because the proposed
improvements are not large scale. The parking lot to be paved is the
existing staging area presently in use for loading the ferry. An
upgraded pier is necessary to serve a vessel which is already in use
and has been in use for approximately a year. New restroom facilities
are a replacement for those presently in use which are not designed
for accessibility to the handicapped.
A larger docking facility or paved staging area will not
encourage more traffic om Route 25. The traffic is already there. The
inevitable growth of Long Island has caused an increased demand Yor
Cross Sound Ferry services. The demand for service to New England from
East End farmers, businesses and residents already exists. The~resent
adverse impact is that this traffic is not being handled efficiently.
In 1981, there were 7,000 trucks, in 1982 - 10,000 and in 1983 - 12,000
using the ferry. Peak ridership is during the s,,mmer. Annual passenger
vehicles in 1981 were 97,000, in 1982 - 94,500, and in 1983 - 119,300.
It is the objective of this project to move efficiently to handle the
existing traffic.
Mr. John Contiguglia
July 12, 1984
Page 2
A detailed environmental review record (ERR) has been prepared
for this project and has been reviewed by other agencies involved in
environmental protection. This document is required before federal funds
may be used. In the opinion of this office, an environmental impact
statement (EIS) is not necessary, as the minimum threshold requiring it
has not been reached.
Sincerely,
Joseph T. SanseverinQ
Community Development Director
JTS/SDW/ll
cc: NYS Department of Environmental Cbnservation
Council on Evironmental Quality
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Southold Town Planning Board
NYS Department of Transportation
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER F. COHALAN
COUNTY EXeCUtiVE
Mr. Patrick E. Lyons
P.O. Box 328
Orient, N.Y. 11957
July 12, 1984
Board ol Appeals
Tov n of Southold
Dear Mr. Lyons:
This letter is being sent in response to the concerns raised in
your June 13, 1984 letters regarding the proposed Community Development
improvements at the Orient Point Ferry Terminal, in the To~m of Southold.
You state in your letter that you object; to the finding of l'no
significant effect on the environment" for the above mentioned project,
and that you feel that there was insufficient input from the affected
communities. Our office believes that there was extensive opportunity
for public comment regarding the above mentioned project during the 4
public forums arranged by the NYS DOT. Forums were held in March 1981
in Hauppauge, New Haven, Southold, and Hempstead. As per the NYS DOT
report regarding the 4 public forums, public consensus was that "improved
ferry service is both desirable and feasible".
You also state in your letter that the proposed improvements
will contribute to automobile pollution, noise, and congestion. It is
our contention that future increases in ridership will come as a result
of demand, not as a result of terminal improvements. The proposed
project is expected to increase the orderliness and efficiency of the
terminal operation. Improved efficiency with respect to passenser
check-in and vehicle traffic control will relieve congestion o~ the local
roads caused by vehicles waiting to enter the staging area.
In your letter you suggest that the Cross Sound Ferry Company
should 'seek alternate landing sites thereby protecting the environment
from further damage. Alternate landing sites would necessitate improve-
ments and modifications to the existing natural environment thereby
impacting additional sites. Ferry service from the existing site to
New London has been provided since the 1930's. Planned improvements
Mr. Patrick E. Lyons
July 12, 1984
Page 2
are not expected to significantly impact the already modified environ-
ment at the Orient site. Findings of the Long Island Sound Ferry Service
Improvement Study indicate that service improvements are both necessary
and desirable. As this study was made part of our Environmental Review,
by reference, the findings contained therein are also considered part of
the Environmental Review analysis.
Sincerely,
Joseph T. Sanseverino ~
Community Developmeat Director
JTS/OV~/ll
cc: NYS Department of Environmental Conservation
Council on Environmental Quality
Southold Town Board of Appeals ~
Southold Town Planning Board
N~fS Department of Transportation
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWlCKI
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN ROAD- B'I'ATE: ROAD 25 SOUTHOLD, L,I,, N.Y. 11¢J71
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
May 23, 1984
TO'
Mr. Richard McMurray
Cross Sound Ferry Service, Inc.
P.O. Box 33, Two Ferry Street
New London, CT 06320
Mr. Howard W. Young
400 Ostrander Avenue
Riverhead, NY ll901
Re:
Appeal No. 3219 - Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
Gentlemen:
Please find enclosed for your records a copy of the
response received today from the Suffolk County Planning
Commission, pursuant to Sections 1323, et seq. of the Suffolk
County Charter.
Yours very truly,
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
By Linda Kowalski
Enclosure
cc: Mr. James McMahon
Mr. Victor Lessard
Town of Southold
Board of Appeals
O COUNTY OF SUFFOLKO
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
(516) 360-5513
LEE E. KOPPELMAN
May 22, 1984
Pursuant to the requirements of Sections 1323 to 1332 of the Suffolk County Charter,
the following applications which have been referred to the Suffolk County Planning
Co--,~ssion are considered to be a matter for local determination. A decision of
local determination should not be construed as either an approval or a disapproval.
.Applicant
Municipal File Number
Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
3219
GG'N :jk
Very truly yours,
Lee E. Koppelman
Director of Planning
by
Gerald G. Newman
Chief Planner
Town of Southold
Board of Appeals
e COUNTY OF SUFFOLI /
DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
(516) 360-5513
Earle I~. KOPPI~I. MAN
May 22, 1984
Pursuant to the requirements of Sections 1323 to 1332 of the Suffolk County Charter,
the following applications which have been referred to the Suffolk County Planning
Commission are considered to be a matter for local determination. A decision of
local determination should not be construed as either an approval or a disapproval.
Applicant
Municipal Pile Number
Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
3219
GGN:jk
Very truly yours,
Lee E. Koppelman
Director of Planning
by ·
Gerald G. Newman
Chief Planner
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN Rr'IAD- STATE Ri'tAD 25 S~UTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI
May 15, 1984
Mr. Howard Young
Young & Young
400 Ostrander Avenue
Riverhead, NY 11901
Re: Appeal No. 3219 Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
Attached herewith is a copy of the formal findings and deter-
mination recently rendered and filed this date with the Office of
the Town Clerk concerning your application.
In the event your application has been approved, please be sure
to return to the Building Department for approval of any new construc-
tion in writing, or for other documents as may Ne applicable.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call either
our office (765-1809 or that of the building inspector (765-1802).
Yours very truly,
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
Enclosure
Copy of Decision to
Building ~2?~.tnlent
Planning
Mr. James McMahon
Mr. Richard McMurray
Cross Sound Ferry Services,
By Linda F. Kowalski
Secretary
Inc.
Southold Town Board of
Appeals
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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWlCKI
May 15, 1984
Mr. Howard Young
Young & Young
400 Ostrander Avenue
Riverhead, NY ll901
Re: Appeal No. 3219 - Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
Dear Sir or Madam:
Attached herewith is a copy of the formal findings and deter-
mination recently rendered and filed this date with the Office of
the Town Clerk concerning your application.
In the event your application has been approved, please be sure
to return to the Building Department for approval of any new construc-
tion in writing, or for other documents as may Re applicable.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call either
our office (765-1809) or that of the building inspector (765-1802
Yours very truly,
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
Enclosure
Copy of Decision to
Building ~2?~.tment
Planning
Mr. James McMahon
Mr. Richard McMurray
Cross Sound Ferry Services,
By Linda F.
Secretary
Inc.
Kowalski
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN ROAD-STATE ROAD 25 SOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11g'71
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
ACTION OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Appeal No. 3219
Application Dated Februar3 16, 1984
TO: Mr. Howard ¥0un9
Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
[Appellant(s)]
At a Meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals held on April-]9, ]984
the above appeal was considered, and the action indicated below was taken
on your [ ] Request for Variance Due to Lack of Access to Property
New York Town Law, Section 280-a
[ ] Request for Special Exception under the Zoning Ordinance
A~ticle , Section
[X] Request for Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
Article VII , Sections ]00-70 and ]00-7]
[ ] Request for
The public hearing concerning this matter was held on April 5, 1984,
at which time the hearing was declared closed pending deliberations.
Application of CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES
CT 06730 for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
lO0-70(A) and Section 100-71 for permission to:
building with an insufficient frontyard setback
line and [b] establish a ferry-terminal use in
Location of Property: 42175 Main Road, Orient,
No~, 1000-015-09-11.
, INC., Box 33, New London,
, Article VII, Section
[al construct principal
from the easterly property
this B-1 Business District.
NY; County Tax Map Parcel
The board made the following findings and determination:
By this application, appellant seeks permission to construct a
40' by 50' ferry terminal building as shown on the site plan submitted
with the application February 16, 1984 which would have a setback from
the easterly property line (abutting property of "Hicks") of 25 feet
(and from the Route 25 property line of 30 feet).. The setback from the
westerly property line (abutting property now or formerly of "Blauvelt")
is 40 feet at its nearest point. Also proposed is a 4' by 8' ticket
booth which will be set back approximately 20 feet from the westerly
property line and 12 feet west of the proposed terminal building. This
is an appeal from the January 18, 1984 decision of the building inspector
requiring a variance for a ferry terminal in a B-1 Zone since such use
is only listed as a permitted use in the C-Light Industrial and C-1
General Industrial Districts by Special Exception and site plan approvals,
(see Article VIII, Section lO0-80(B)[ll] and Article IX, Section 100-91).
The premises in question is zoned "B-1 General Business" and
contains an area of approximately 1.5 acres, as identified by the
Suffolk County Tax Map, District 1000, Section 015, Block 9, Lot 11.
Premises located on both the west and east sides are also zoned "B-1
General Business." Premises immediately abutting the "Hicks" five-foot
strip on the east is New York State Route 25, which is an improved
road extending southerly to Gardiners Bay. East of Route 25 is other
premises of Cross Sound Ferry Services which is also zoned "B-1
General Business" with an existing one-story building previously used
as a snack bar-restaurant. Premises to the south of the subject parcel
was conveyed on February 3, 1975 from the New London Freight Lines, Inc.
to Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc. which includes underwater land as
shown at Liber 7827 cp 477-479 and Suffolk County Tax Map, District
lO00, Section 015, Block 9, Lot 16 and an existing ferry-terminal booth
(CONTINUED ON PAGE TWO)
DATED: May 7, 1984. CHAIRMAN, SOUTHOLD TOW/~ ZONING BOARD
OF APPEALS
Form ZB4 (rev. 12/81)
.Pa.ge 2 Appeal No. 3219
Matter of CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES,
Decision Rendered April 19, 1984
INC.
has been used as such since prior to zoning in 1957.
All of the members of this board are familiar with the property
in question as well as the surrounding properties. Also, the board
members are familiar with the statements given at the public hearing
both in favor of and against the application, and general comments.
In considering this application, the board determines that since
it is the applicant's proposal to relocate the existing ferry ~
terminal building (which is south-east of the subject premises) onto
the subject 1.5-acre parcel within this B-1 zoning district, that:
(1) the relief will not produce adverse effects on available govern-
mental facilities of any increased population; (2) the relief
requested will be in harmony with and promote the general purposes
and intent of zoning; (3) the use will not prevent the orderly and
reasonable use of adjacent properties or of properties in adjacent
use districts; (4) the use will not prevent the orderly and reasonable
use of permitted or legally established uses in the district wherein
this use is to be located, or of permitted or legally established uses
in adjacent use districts; (5) the circumstances are unique and the
variance requested is not substantial; (6) the safety, health, wel-
fare, comfort, convenience, and order of the town will not be
adversely affected by the proposed use and its location; (7) the
plot area is sufficient, appropriate and incompliance with the bulk
schedule for the reasonable use and anticipated operation as applied;
and additionally that the relief requested will not change the
character of the neighborhood and will provide additional parking
on this site which as exists is limited.
NOW, THEREFORE, on motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr.
Sawicki, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 3219, application for CROSS SOUND
FERRY SERVICES, INC. for permission to construct ferry-terminal
buildings as shown on the site plan dated January 21, 1984, BE
AND HEREBY IS APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. That a six-inch asphalt lip be constructed on the easterly
side of applicant's property to retain water allowing proper ..
drainage on this site;
2. That the building depicted "ticket office" existing at
this time be removed as agreed; and if relocated be used only for
storage purposes;
3. That the present ticket office in the building known as
the snack bar easterly of Route 25 be discontinued when the new
ticket office is constructed, or when directed by the Building
Inspector, whichever is sooner;
4. That the area shaded in "red" shall be slated a
"No-Parking Zone";
5. After completion and upon notice, a final inspection
and acceptance by the Z.B.A. for this proposal.
Tax
Location of Property: 42175 Main Road, Orient, NY; County
Map Parcel No. 1000-15-9-11.
Douglass and Sawicki.
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTI4OLD TO%VN CLERK
HOU
To,Nh Clerk, Town,
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Doyen, Grigonis,
This resolution was unanimously adopted.
GERARD P. GOEHR~INGER, CHAIRMAN
May I'3-, 1984
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ROBERT W. TASKER
Town Attorney
TELEPHONE
($16) 477-1400
425 MAIN ST.
GREENPORT, L.I., NEW YORK 11944
May 16, 1984
Mrs. Linda Kowalski
Southold Town Board of Appeals
Main Road
Southold, New York 11971
Re: Cross Sound Ferry Variance
Dear Linda:
In accordance with your request, I am enclosing the survey maps in
the above matter.
Yours very truly,
ROBERT W. TASKER
RWT :aa
enc.
~LANNING BOARD MEMBERS
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Bennett Odowski, Jr.
Mark S. McDonald
Kenneth L. Edwards
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SotJthold, NewYork 11971
Fax (516) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
May 19,1995
Henry Raynor
P.O. Box 1459
Mattituck, NY 11952
Re: Proposed site plan for Cross Sound Ferry
SCTM# 1000-15-9-10.1 & 11.1
Dear Mr. Raynor:
The following resolutions were adopted by the Southold Town Planning Board
at a meeting held on Thursday, May 18, 1995:
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, establishes itself as read agency, and
as lead agency makes a determination of non-significance and grants a
Negative Declaration on this Type 1 action.
WHEREAS, Cross Sound Ferry is the owner of the property known and
designated as Cross Sound Ferry, located at Main Rd., Odent, SCTM# 1000-
15-9-10.1 & 11.1; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was submitted
on January 31, 1995; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 517, declared itself lead
agency and issued a Negative Declaration on May 18, 1995; and
WHEREAS, ail the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of
Soutl~old have been met; be it therefore
May 19, 1995
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
approval on the surveys dated May 16, 1995, and authorize the Chairman to
endorse the final surveys subject to fulfillment of the following conditions. All
conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of this resolution.
1. Certification by the Senior Building inspector.
Enclosed please find a copy of the Negative Declaration for your records.
Please contact this office if you have any questions regarding the above.
Sincerely/. .
Chairman
enc.
& ADDRESS OF PERSON PREPARING MAP
DATE, NORTH POINT AND WRITTEN & GRAPHIC SCALE
/,~',iDESCRIPTION OF PROPERTY & INFORMATION TO DEFINE BOUNDARIES
LOCATIONS, NAMES & EXISTING WIDTHS OF ADJACENT STREETS & CURB,~?
~ LOCATION & OWNERS OF ALL ADJOINING LANDS, AS SHOWN ON TAX RECORDS
LOCATION & PURPOSE OF ALL EXISTING AND PROPOSED EASEMENTS
· COMPLETE OUTLINE OF EXISTING DEED RESTRICTIONS APPLYING TO PROPERTY
~EXISTING ZONING
'-'~REAS SUBJECT TO FLOODING OR STORM WATER OVERFLOWS
~WATER COURSES, MARSHES, WOODED AREAS, TREES 8" IN DIAMETER OR MORE
~iANY BUILDING WITHIN 100' OF PROPERTY
~PAVED AREAS, SIDEWALKS, VEHICULAR ACCESS TO PUBLIC STREETS
·!
--~EXISTING SEWERS, CULVERTS, WATERLINES WITHIN OR ADJACENT TO PROPERTY
FENCING LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING
'~.~:PROPOSED BUILDI~,~GS OR STRUCTURAL IMPROVEMENTS
~FF STREET PARKING AND LOADING AREAS
'~OUTDOOR LIGHTING OR PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEMS
!ii OUTDOOR SIGNS-
· ~239K SIDEWALKS LOCATION~ ~319THS: SlZE O~ WATER AND.~EK LINES
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FORM NO. 1
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
TOWN HALL
SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
TEL.: 765-1802
Examined ................ ,19...
Approved ................. 19... Permit No ............
Disapproved a/c .....................................
Application No ..................
(Building Inspector)
APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT
Date . ~. ~zz..
INSTRUCTIONS
a. This application must be completely filled in by typewriter or in ink and submitted to the Building Inspector, with 3
sets of plans, accurate plot plan to scale. Fee according to schedule.
b. Plot plan showing location of lot and of buildings on premises, relationship to adjoining premises or public streets
or areas, and giving a detailed description of layout of property must be drawn on the diagram which is part of this appli-
cation.
c. The work covered by this application may not be commenced before issuance of Building Permit.
d. Upon approval of this application, the Building Inspector will issued a Building Permit to the applicant. Such permit
shall be kept on the premises available for inspection throughout the work.
e. No building shall be occupied or used in whole or in part for any purpose whatever until a Certificate of Occupancy
shall have been granted by the Building Inspector.
APPLICATION IS HEREBY MADE to the Building Department for the issuance of a Building Permit pursuant to the
Building Zone Ordinance of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, and other applicable Laws, Ordinances or
Regulations, for the construction of buildings, additions or alterations, or for removal or demolition, as herein described.
The applicant agrees to comply with all applicable laws, ordinances, building code, housing code, and regulations, and to
admit authorized inspectors on premises and in building for necessary inspections.
(Signature of applicant, or name, if a corporation)
~..o 15o'~ 3~, ~ '~ ..~.~.~?l..~3.'r ........
.(Mailinga'dd,ress of applicant)
State whether applicant is owner, lessee, agent, architect, engineer, general contractor, electrician, plumber or builder·
·. t4 !.: ¢! :5t. :..,. . . . :,,.,?. z..,.. ,4.-.
mmneofownerofpremises .~.[2../~..,,~. '?~,"~,/lJ(3 ~.~.~ *~' V l~-;~X} I~C ,
(as on the tax roll or latest deed)
fl~applicant is ~ corporation, signature of duly authorized officer.
x..u,'¢.. ...........
........ i~e and 'title of c~'A~irate officer) Builder's License No.. ~.'.~. ~. [ ................
Plumber's License No ........ ~./ ................
Electrician's License No ..... !! .................
Other Trade's License No....~). .................
1. Location of land on which proposed work will be done...'4. :~. J.~ .~.'...~...~'.%..~...~...~. t..~..~.~..~.-~..T, t .~..~.: ....
House Number Street Hamlet
County Tax Map..~No. 1000 Section .... C?.[ 52: ....... Block ..... 5~ ........... ~ot .t./.d. t .~..__ ~ .5.~. I..4.~. !.~.
Subdivision . . . .}3. s/~. ............................. Filed Map No ............... Lot ...............
(Name)
State existing use and occupancy of premises and intended use and occupancy of proposed construction:
a. Existing use and occupancy ...~q'~'.~4f,.~..~.....'~/7~..1~..[ .~..~..~'.. .....................................
'-d use and occupancy ...~. '.~..' .[~. ;~.. ~..~..'~..%..~...~.../. j~J....~.D. } .~..~. ! .~...~. .............
3. Nature of work (check which app~ole): New Building.. ~ ..... Addit~ .......... Alteration ..........
Repair .............. Removai .............. Demolition .............. Other Work ...............
~ (Description)
4. Estimated Cost . . . [ ~.~? } .'.O~ .~. ...................... Fee ......................................
(to be paid on f'fling this application)
5. If dwelling, number of dwelling units .... IQ .].1~ ..... Number of dwelling units on each floor..AI. [~. .........
If garage, number of cars ...................................................................
6. If business, commercial or mixec~ occupancy, specify nature and extent of each type of use .{7.~.L~.~/. ]'.~/. [.~.; ! .~:.~! .~..
7. Dimensions of existing structures, if any: Front .[¢t,¢.1~?~:~ ......... Rear .............. Depth ...............
Height ............... Number of Stories ........................................................
Dimensions of same structure with alterations or additions: Front ................. Rear ..................
Depth ...................... Height ...................... Number of Stories .....................
8. Dnnens~ons of entire new construction: Front .... ~ c~~. ...... Rear ... :~.'¢2 ....... Depth .. ~ .Q~. .........
Height ...'?-~ ~':.' ....... Number of Stories ........ ~,. ..............................................
9. Size of lot: Front ...................... Rear ...................... Depth ......................
10. Date of Purchase ............................. Name of Former Owner .............................
11. Zone or use district in which premises are situated .....................................................
12. Does proposed construction violate any zoning law, ordinance or regulation: ................................
13. Will lot be regraded ............................ Will excess fill be removed from premises: Yes No
14. Name of Owner of premises .................... Address ................... Phone No ................
Name of Architect ........................... Address ................... Phone No ................
Name of Contractor .......................... Address ................... Phone No ................
PLOT DIAGRAM
Locate clearly and distinctly ail buildings, whether existing or proposed, and~ indicate ail set-back dimensions from
property lines. Give street and block number or description according to deed, and show street names and indicate whether
interior or corner lot.
STATE OF NEW YORK, ~ ,.
COUNTY OF
..... ~,~. ........................................ being duly sworn, deposes and says that he is the applicant
(Name of individual signing contract)
above named.
He is the .........................................................................................
(Contractor, agent, corporate officer, etc.)
of said owner or owners, and is duly authorized to perform or have performed the said work and to make and file this
application; that ail statements contained in this application are true to the best of his knowledge and belief; and that the
work will be performed in the manner set forth in the application filed therewith.
Sworn to before me this
Notary Publi~~~p~:::~)
No. 52-4524711 '/fl'
Qualilied in Suffolk County
olT~l]lmis$ion Expires March 30, I98,L-/
Memorandum from....
Southold Town Board of Appeals
TOWN HALL, SOUTHOLD, N.Y. 11971
765~1809
Date: 5/9/84
To: R.W. Tasker, Esq.
From: Z.B.A. Office
Dear Bob:
Attached is the draft findings and determina-
tion concerning the Cross Sound Ferry
variance which was conditionally granted.
Please make corrections as you feel are
necessary.
Thanks.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN ROAD- STATE ROAD 2S c~OUTHOLD. L.I.. N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-180g
Pursuant to Article XIII of the
Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold, New York, hereby
the following to the Suffolk County Planning Commission:
X× Variance from the Zoning Code, Article VII Sections
Variance from Determination of Southold Town
Building Inspector
Special Exception, Article , Section
Special Permit
Suffolk County Charter, the
refers
]00-70(A) & 100-7]
Appeal No.: 3219
Location of Affected Land: 42175 Main Road,
County Tax Map Item No.: 1000- ]5-9-]].
Within 500 feet of:
Town or Village Boundary Line
X× Body of Water (Bay, Sound or Estuary)
XX State or County Road, Parkway, Highway,
Boundary of Existing or Proposed County,
Owned Land
Boundary of Existing or Proposed County,
~ or Other Recreation Area
CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC.
Orient, NY
Applicant:
Thruway
State or Federally-
State or Federal Park
Existing or Proposed Right-of-Way of Any Stream or Drainage
--Channel Owned by the County or for Which The County Has Estab-
lished Channel Lines,
or Within One Mile of a Nuclear Power Plant
Within One Mile of An Airport.
COMMENTS: Applicant is requesting permission to ~$tablish and construct
ferry-terminal in this B-I Business District. Copies of decision as
filed May 15~ 1984~ application, Cg, Tax MaD. minutes and site Dlan enclosed.
Copies of Town
review.
Dated: May 17,
file and related documents enclosed herewith for your
~cretary, Board of Appeals
FOR ~ARC£L NO,
SEE SEC. NO. \~.
24el7
24ot8
,gA
5_O~Lc
· ' '~ ~ · ~, ...... , , :,i~ h,,dr~a ~d seventy-five
,~ NEW LONDON FREIGHT LINES, INC., a New Yov,
~Z~.,an4 CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICE, IN~., a Connect!cut .
corporatiun ..... - .. .... ctreet New L~don, Co~e
I,e,1
~1~, that the patay o~ the first part, *n consideration o( doi ].~T~S -~.~~
~ paid
lawful money of the United States,- _
by the ~y of the second ~, d~s hereby grant and release unto the party of the s~ond pan, the ~rs or
s~ccesmrs and assigns oi the pa~y of the second pa~ forever,
A~ that cc~in plot, pi~e or parcel o[ land, with the buildings and improvements thereon er~ted, sit.ate,
lying and t~ing in the
~ave~ and at, Orient Point, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk
Cot~nty, New York, as more particularly
described on Rider A hereto.
~-/?arcel l;
RIDER A
All that certain tract or parcel of land, to-
gether with all the improw~ments erected thereon, situate
at ,Orient Point, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk
and State of New York, and bounded northerly by the High-
way, easterly by land formerly of David Welch, soUtherly
by t'he Bay and westerly by the land formerly of David
WelCh, said piece of land being eighteen (15) feet in width,
~ ~ ~ length from the Mighway to ~h Bay.
thc
ALSO, all grantor's right, title and interest
~n and to that certain piece or parcel of land under the
w~ers of Gardiners Bay In front of and adjacent to uplaad
gOrmerly of David Welch, in the town of Southold~ Suffolk
'County, New York, described as follows: Co~.encin% at a
point on the line of high water mark as the ~d line of
high. water mark exists at the present time, g. aid point of
co~encement being the southeasterly corner of the sai5
upland and from which point the tower of Plum Island
Light House bears north 60° east and that of Gardiners
Island Light House bears south 65-1/2° east, ar.d running
thence on a course South 40° east five hundred (500) feet,
thence South 60° West three hundred twenty (320) feet,
thence North 40° Wes~ five hund~ed (~0~ feet, thence
along the said line of high water mark North 60° East
three hundred o~=nty (320) feet to the place of beginning,
containing three and six hundred seventy-three one-thousandths
acres of land under water. BEING the same premises
conveyed by the People of the State of New York to David
Welch (predecessor in title to Orient Point Wharf Company)
by Letter's Patent dated the 9th day of June 1893 and recorded
in Book of Patents No.
,~ at Page: ~4 of the State of New
York, subject to all of the terms and conditions c_nt~ned
Jn ~ald Letters
BEING AND INTENDED TO BE the same premises con-
veyed by Orient Point Wharf Company, a domestic corporation,
to grantor by deed dated August 9, 1947, recorded in
the Suffolk County Clerk's Office on August 22, 1947 in
Liber 2742 of Deeds at Page 534.
Parcel 2:
All that certain plot, piece or parcel of land,
with the building and improvements thereon erected, situate,
lying and being in the Hamlet of Orient Point, Town of
Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York, bounded
and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a point
Main Road, Route 25, where same
westerly line of a right of way,
Road to Orient Point Dock, said point of beginning being
formerly marked by a tree; running thence along said
westerly line of said right of way, south 26° 4?' 20" East
593.93 feet to the high water mark of Oardiner's Bay;
thence along said high water mark of Gardiner's Bay,
South 83° 26' 00" West 133.47 feet to land now or
formerly of Harvey H. Blauvelt; thence along said land
last mentioned No. 21° 07' 20" West 566.82 feet through
a concrete monument to a concrete monument on said
southerly line of the Main Road; thence along said southerly
line of the Main Road, North 76° 25' 10" E. 71.15 feet to
the point or place of beginning.
TOGETHER with all the right, titie and Interest
of the party, of grantor of, in and to the land under the
waters of Gardiner's Bay adjoining said premises on the
south and TO~,ETHER with a~l the right, titIe and interest
of the party of the first part, of, in and to the road-way
adjoining said premises on the east~,r]y s~de.
on the southerly side of the
is intersected by the
which runs from the Main
RECORDED
1975
LESTER M, ALBERTSON
Clerk of Suffolk Cou~ly
-LEGAL NOTICE
iCE IS HEREBY
[~ pursuant to Section
i~ Town Law and the
~ons of the A~ended
rite Town of Sonthold`
iar Meelin~g and the fcl*
5' the' Southold Town
of Appeals at the Town
Main Road, Southold~
Thmrmlay, Apl'il 5, 1984.
~ng at 7:30 p.m. and
p.m. Recessed Hearing
MES. F. DRUCK HI
~/84).
p.m. Application of
:S A. and EDNA*MAE
5*tiE, 675 North
~od Road, Lam,el, NY
Bay AYemm¢ i '~ml~r~, NY ArticteTl~ Seniioa'lOO-30(A)
for & Variance ~ the zonin~ fo~ ~ to convert an
Ord~ .. ?e~ Article Ill, Section existing single-family
l. O0-~.f~' ~_l~r~es'_~m to locate dwelling Use into two
~_dWe!l~ w~th anjnsufflclent professional offices. Location
f _r~ selhack fr~n Wash- of Proiler ty: 4905 Middle Rced
il~ton Avenue. Location of (.C.R.. 48), Mattituck, NY;
1~: Sonthwest cerner of County T~x Map ~arcel No.
Wnsbington Avenue and Mid* 1~9-141~01-21; "Map of Clara
diethn Road, Greenport; W.R. Reeve ~13", Part of Lot
Celery Tax'Map Parcel No.
1000-041~-O01.
7:45 p.m. Application of
LINDA MILLER
FAULKNER, B~ox 787,
Cu~, NY for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article Ill, Section 100-31 for
permission to.m- ..s~Yate two
parcels with msefficient area
and width. Location of
Property: Southwest Side of
West Creek' Avenue,
Cutc~e, NY; County Tax
Map Parcel Nos. I000-10~13-4
andS.
7:50 p.m. Application of
Article ItL Section 100-32 for
~ermission to_ construct
accessory swimmingpenl in
an area other than the rear
-.-yard at 1415 Harbor Lane,
Catcbogue,,NY; County Tax
Map Pgrcel No. 1000-97-g-10.
8:05 p.m. Application of
ROBERT BROWN, Main
8:25p. m. Application for
PETER- and PATRICIA
i~ENZ. Main Road, Peconic,
NY (by Wicklmm, Wickham &
Bressler, P.C.) for Variances
tothe Zoning Ordinance: [al
t0r approval of insufficient
'.aad [bl for approval of access,
New York ,Town 'Law, Section
289-A. Eocation-of Property:
Right-of-Way off the North
~[e,0~ Sound Avenue known
as Private Rodd #11,
Mattithck; County Tax Map
Parcel No. 1000-112-Ol-011 and
CAROL PLOCK 10003 North
Bayview Road, :touthold, NY ~:30 p.m. Application
for a Variance to the Zoning fCROSS SOUND FERRY
Ordinance, ArtidelII, Section ,][ SERVICES, INC,, Box 33,
100-31 for permission to re-
separate two parcels with
insufficient area and width,
andaVarianeeforappr°valof ] Section 100-70(A) and Section
access, New York Town Law,
Section 280-A. Location of ~ cimstruct principal building
Property: - 10007 North~ with an insufficient fr~ntyard
Bayviow Road, So~thold` ..NY,~ setback from; the easterly
County Tax Map t-arcel Nos. ~ prope~ty line and [b] establish
1000-79-5.17 a .n~. 21.. _
8:00 p.m, ~ppliontion of
GEORGE amd NATALIE
~WIE~SER; 1~15 ~Harb~..r .Lane,
~,u~ P~.X lor~ va~ ~a~.~el Nos. 1000-015.09~11.
to the Zonmg Ordinance~ 8:45 p.m. Application*i~r
Road, Greenpert, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VII1,
Section 1~0-01. for pe~mioston
to construct addition with an
insufficient frontyard setback.
Lonatidn of Property: 74450
Main Road, , Greenpart;
County Tax Map Parcel No.
1000-45.06`006.
8:10 p.m. Application of
BERIT LALLI. 1405 Narrow
River Eoad, Orient, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article IH, Section
100-31 for permission to
construct garage addition
with an insufficient rearyard
setback. Location of
Arti ce to the Zoning - Property:'1405 Narrow River
elII, Ssetion Rend` Orient; County Tax
rmission to re- Map Parcel No. 1000-027-03-
31 and 3~,,Map O06.3.
:~Par~, MapNo. 21~, 8:15 p~m. Application for
MARY GRIGON1S. 550~Vells
Avenue, Southold, NY for a
Variance to the Zoning
Ordin~uee, Article III. Section
100-31 for approval of
insufficient area of two
tPhrOpesed parcels located at
e west side of Wells Avenue.
Southold; County Tax Mal~
Parcel No. 1000`061-4B`0S
For information concerning
these matters, please contact
Linde Kowalski at the Office
of the Board of Appeals, Town
Hall, Sonthold, NY; tel. 765-
1809 or 1802. Those persons
having an interest in these
matters may appear and be
heard at the time and place
specified above.
Dated: March 17,1964.
BY ORDER OF
THE SOUI'HOLD TOWN
BOARD OF APPEALS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
STATE OF NEW YORK ) [
) SS:
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK )
SUSAN W. ALLAN of Greenport, in
said County, being duly sworn, says that he/she is
Principal Clerk of THE SUFFOLK TIMES, a Weekly
Newspaper, published at Greenport, in the Town
of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New
York, and that the Notice of which the annexed is
a printed copy, has been regularly published in
said Newspaper once each week for one
weeks successively, commencing on the 29 ~ch
day of_ H a i~c ~h 19 84
Principal Clerk
Sworn to before me this 2 9 th
dayof Hatch 19 84
~ m '
~ ~. ~c
V~ to ~e
S~em
~et
'~S~ess ~
A~ue,. SOU~old,
J1 ~ app~v~ of
'~ me west
W~ Avenue,
~* ~ ~P e~ ~o.,
~ ~on
· e~ ma~e~, pl~e
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, ~U~old, ~; tel
ha~g ~ ~te~st ~ ~e~
~ may ap~ ~d.
h~ at ~e ~e ~d pl~
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Da~: M~h 17, 1~.
SO~o~ TO~
BOA~ OF APp~
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
STATE OF NEW YORK
Patricia Wood, being duly sworn, says that she is the
Editor, of THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN,
a public newspaper printed at Southold, in, Suffolk County;
and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed copy,
has been published in said Long Island Traveler-Watch-
man once each week for ......................... ./. ............. weeks
successively, commencing on the ............. I.~..?.....~.~ ...........
day of ............. ff.~a~.~..~~. ........................ 19'"'~' '~'
................ .......... ........
Sworn to before me this ................................ day of
............ Z~:~.:~.i .............. , ]9..~
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI
Southold Town Board of Appeals
IViAIN ROAD- STATE RnAD 25 c:r"IUTHrlLD, L.I., N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
Concerning your recent application filed with our office, please
find enclosed a copy of the Legal Notice as published in the local and
official newspapers of the Town of Southold, to wit, the Suffolk Times
and the L.I. Traveler-Watchman indicating the date and time of your
public hearing.
Please have someone appear in your behalf at the time specified
in the event there are questions brought up during the public hear-
in9 and in order to prevent any delay in the processing of your
application.
If you have any questions, or if you would like to review your
file prior to the hearin9, please do not hesitate to either stop by our
office at the Southold Town Hall, or by calling our secretary, Linda
Kowalski, at 765-1809 (or, if no answer, 765-1802).
Yours very truly,
ik
Enclosure
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
Southold Town Board of Appeals
I~AIN ROAD- STATE ROAD 25 SOUTHOLD, L..I., N.Y. 11cJ71
TELEPHONE (5t6) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH R. SAWiCKI
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, pursuant to Section 267 of the Town Law
and the Provisions of the Amended Code of the Town of Southold, a
Regular Meeting and the following public hearings will be held by
the Southold Town Board of Appeals at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, NY on Thursdays April 5,..]9.84, commencing at 7:30 p.m.
and as follows:
7:30 p.m. Recessed Hearing - JAMES F. DRUCK III (from 3/2/84).
7:35 p.m. Application of JAMES A. and £DNA-MAE CHRISTIE,
675 North Oakwood Road, Laurel, NY for a Variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section lO0-31 for permission to re-separate
Lots 31 and 32, Map of Laurel Park, Map No. 212, with insufficient
area and width and sideyard setback of existing dwelling. County
Tax Map No. 1000-127-7-15 and 16.
7:40 p.m. Application of ROBERT A. CAMPBELL, t40 Bay ~venue,
Greenport, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section lO0-31 for permission to locate dwelling with an insuffi-
cient frontyard setback from Washington Avenue. Location of
Property: Southwest corner of Washington Avenue and Middleton Road,
Greenport; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-041-02-001.
7:45 p.m. Application of LINDA MILLER FAULKNER, Box 787,
Cuchogue, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-31 for permission to re-separate two parcels with
insufficient area and width. Location of Property: Southwest Side
of West Creek Avenue, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Nos.
1000-103-13-4 and 5.
7:50 p.m. Application of CAROL PLOCK, 10003 North Bayview Road,
Southold, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section lO0-31 for permission to re-separate two parcels with
insufficient area and width, and
New York Town Law, Section 280-A.
North Bayview Road, Southold, NY;
1000-79-5-17 and 21.
Variance for approval of access,
Location of Property: 10007
County Tax Map Parcel Nos.
8:00 p.m. Application of GEORGE. AND NATALIE WIESER, 1415 Har-
bor Lane, Cutchogue, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to construct accessory
swimmingpool in an area other than the rear yard at 1415 Harbor
Lane, Cutchogue, NY; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-97-6-10.
'P~ge 2 - Legal Notice Hearings
Regular Meeting of April 5, 1984
Southold Town Board of Appeals
8:05 p.m. Application of ROBERT BROWN, Main Road, Greenport,
NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VIII, Section
100-81 for permission to construct addition with an insufficient
frontyard setback. Location of Property: 74450 Main Road, Green-
port; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-45-06-006.
8:10 p.m. Application of BERIT LA[LI, 1405 Narrow River Road,
Orient, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section lO0-31 for permission to construct garage addition with an
insufficient rearyard setback. Location of Property: 1405 Narrow
River Road, Orient; County Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-027-03-006.3.
8:15 p.m. Application for THOMAS R. AND BARBARA D. MERCIER,
New Suffolk Avenue, Mattituck, NY (by Wickham, Wickham & Bressler,
P.C.) for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Sec-
tion lO0-30(A) for permission to convert an existing single-family
dwelling use into two professional offices. Location of Property:
4905 Middle Road (C.R. 48), Mattituck, NY; County Tax Map Parcel
No. lO00-141-O1-21; "Map of Clara W.R. Reeve #212", Part of Lot 5.
8:25 p.m. Application for PETER AND PATRICIA LENZ, Main
Road, Peconic, NY (by Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.) for
Variances to the Zoning Ordinance:
width of two proposed parcels and
New York Town Law, Section 280-A.
off the North Side of Sound Avenue
[a] for approval of insufficient
[b] for approval of access,
Location of Property: Right-of-Way
known as Private Road #11,
Mattituck; County Tax Map Parcel No. lO00-112-Ol-Oll and 012.
~'~8:30 p.m. Application of CROS~S SOUN~D FERR~Y SERVICE~S~ IN~C~,
Box 33, New London, CT 06730 for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance~
~Article VII, SectiOn lO0-70(A) and Section 100-71 for permission to
/Iai. construct principal building with an insufficient frontyardL
'~ setback from the easterly property line and [b] establish a ferryf
terminal use in this B-1 Business District. Location of Property:
42175 Main Road, Orient, NY; County Tax Map Parcel Nos. 1000-015-09~
8:45 p.m. Application for MARY GRIGONIS, 550 Wells Avenue,
Southold, NY for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-31 for approval of insufficient area of two proposed
parcels located at the west side of Wells Avenue, Southold; County
Tax Map Parcel No. 1000-061-03-08.
For information concerning these matters, please contact Linda
Kowalski at the Office of the Board of Appeals, Town Hall, Southold,
NY; tel. 765-1809 or 1802. Those persons having an interest in these
matters may appear and be heard at the time and place specified above.
Dated: March 17, 1984. BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN
BOARD OF APPEALS
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
(end of legal notice)
r~ge 3 - Legal Notice of Hearings
Regular Meeting of April 5, 1984
Southold Town Board of Appeals
NOTICE TO NEWSPAPERS: Please~publish once, to wit: ThursdaS, March 29,
1984 and forward ll affidavits of publication to: L. Kowalski, Board of
Appeals, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971, before April 3, 1984.
Copies have been forwarded to the following 3/26/84:
Suffolk Times (personal delivery)
L.I. Traveler-Watchman, Inc. (personal
Posted on Town Clerk Bulletin Board
delivery)
Dr. and Mrs. James A. Christie
Mr. Robert A. Campbell
Mrs. Linda Miller Faulkner
Mrs. Carol Plock
Mr. and Mrs. George Wieser
Mr. Robert Brown
Mr. Berit Lalli
Dr. and Mrs. Thomas R. Mercier
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Mr. and Mrs. Peter Lenz
Wickham, Wickham & Bressler, P.C.
Mr. Howard W. Young
Cross Sound Ferry Services,
Mrs. Mary Grigonis
Mr. Charles Grigonis
Inc. Attn: R. McMurray
Supervisor and Town Board
Planning Board
Individual ZBA files
Building Department
York State Department of Environmental C~servation has found the
. parcel ~ pro~ect to be: C )
~. Grea~r than 300t from inv~ntoried tidal wetlands.
Landward of a substantial man-made structure '
"Ereater than 100' in leulth constructed prior--to September
T~ndwa=d of 10' co, tour elevation above man sea lev~l o~ a E~adual. nat-
-~-- ural slope.
Land~a~d of topo$~aphical crest of bluff, cliff or
feet in alevation above mean sea lava1. ' .....
~h~refore, mo permit under Article 25 (Tidal ~et~ands of the Bmviron~'~tal
ConServation Lay) is raq~red at this tim sin~ the cu~nt pro. sol is ~youd
S~ ~da~d i~io~cti~ Purs'~nC to C~B ac~. H~r, ~y additi~al ~
or ~iliatio~ ~ te p~Ject ~y req~re a pe~t. It is yo~ res~nsibilitY
to notify t~s offl~, in ~tinl, if su~ additi~al ~ of ~fl~ti~ are
Ve~ t~y yours,
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN I~OAD- EiTATE ROAD 25 ESOUTHOLD, L,I., N.Y. 11~J71
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
GERARD P. GOEHRING£R, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
JOSEPH H. SAWICKI
March 7, 1984
Mr. Howard W. Young
Young & Young
400 Ostrander Avenue
Riverhead, NY ll901
Re: Appeal No. 3219 Cross Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
Dear Mr. Young:
This letter will confirm our telephone conversation today
with your secretary. The Board of Appeals at its Regular
Meeting held last Friday reviewed the subject application and
has requested receipt of a letter (of non-jurisdiction or
approval) from the N.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conserva-
tion in accordance with Section 661.5(b)'of the Tidal Wetlands
Land Use Regulations. If you are able to provide us with same
by March 16, 1984, the board has authorized publication in
the official newspapers for a public hearing to be held at
our next Regular Meeting (tentatively scheduled for March 29th).
Please keep us advised.
Yours very truly,
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER
CHAIRMAN
By Linda Kowalski
cc: Building Department
JUDITH T. TERRY
TOWN CLERK
REGISTRAR OF VITAL $ I A I IS I ICS
OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
TOWN OF $OUTHOLD
February 16~ 1984
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
TELEPHONE
(516) 765-1801
To: Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals
From: Judith T. Terry~ Southold Town Clerk
Transmitted herewith is Zoning Appeal No. 3219 application of Cross Sound
Ferry Services~ Inc. for a variance. Also included is notification to
adjacent property owners; Short Environmental Assessment Form; Letter
relative to N.Y.S. Tidal Wetlands Land-Use; Notice of Disapproval from
the Building Department; and survey.
FEB 1 6 P~4:
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
T/It~p~ IJlIJJJJDECISION OF BUILDING INSPECTOR APPEAL NO.~°~. / f
D^,E .....
TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, N. Y.
1, (We) £r.~)ss..Sgund..£.e.r..r.,y..S.e,r..vj.c.e.,...T.o.c,...of ~.QL3..3.. ...............................................
Nome of Appellant Street and Number
............... ~J~..£.o~.d.9~ .............................................. CT
........................................ HEREBY APPEAL TO
Municipality State
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ON
APPLICATION DATED: 02/15/84FOR: CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC.
WHEREBY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED TO
(X)
( )
(X)
Name of Applicant for permit
of
...... .P..O..B....3..3. :....N..e.~...L..o..q .d. g ~., .. ~ !.....0..6..3. ~.0. ..................................................................
Street and Number Municipality State
PERMIT TO USE
PERMIT FOR OCCUPANCY
PERMIT TO BUILD
1. LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY Main Road, Orient B-1
Street and Hamlet Zone
............ J..o..o..o...=....!,5.,.=...9...::...!.! ................................. OWNER (s): ~. 5¢)uocL ~'erry. Serve, cas.
Map No, Lot No.
DATE PURCHASED: ................. . .. .
Inc.
2. PROVISION (S) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPEALED (Indicate the Article Section, Sub-
section and Paragraph of the Zoning Ordinance by number. Do not quote the Ordinance.)
A~ticle V[! , Sec(±on 100-70A & 100-71
3. TYPE OF APPEAL Appeal is made herewith for
(X) A VARIANCE to the Zoning Ordinance or Zoning Map
( ) A VARIANCE due to lack of access (State of New York Town Law Chap. 62 Cons. Laws
Art. 16 Sec. 280A Subsection 3
4. PREVIOUS APPEAL A previous appeal ([~ (has not) been made with respect to this decision
of the Building Inspector or with respect to this property.
Such appeal was ( ) request for o special permit
( ) request for a variance
and was made in Appeal No ................................. Dated ......................................................................
REASON FOR APPEAL
) A Variance to Section 280A Subsection 3
X ) A Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
)
~s requested for the reason that we wo~ld ~±ke to
(Continue on other side)
REASON FOR APPEAL Continued '~
1. STRICT APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE would produce practical difficulties or unneces-
sary HARDSHIP because as this property has for so many years been used as a
ferry termina], it is the op}n~on of the applicant that the use has been
established and that if the appea! is not granted, the app][cant wi1! not
be ab!e to serve the public's needs.
2. The hardship created is UNIQUE and is not shared by all properties alike in the immediate
vicinity of this property and in this use district because of the site's proximity to water,
the low elevation of the land and the need to stage in an orderly manner the
]argenumber of cars that use the ferry service.
3 The Variance would observe the spirit of the Ordinance and WOULD NOT CHANGE THE
C~IARACTER OF THE DISTRICT because the site has been used for many years as a
ferry terminal and the new plans indicate a great improvement in the site
conditions as well as improvements in service to the public.
STATE OF NEW YORK )
)
COUNTY OF ~-c~'~r,'r'6/~,(' )
SS
Signature
REASON FOR APPEAL Continued
1. STRICT APPLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE would produce practical difficulties or unneces-
sary HARDSHIP because as this property has for so many years been used as a
ferry terminal, it, is the opinion of t. he applicant, that the use has been
estab]ished and that. if the appea! is not. grant, ed, the applicant, wi]! not,
be able to serve t,he public's needs.
2 The hardship created is UNIQUE and is not shared by all properties alike in the immediate
vicinity of this property and in this use district because of t,he site's proximity t,0 wat,er,
the ]ow etevation of the land and the need to stage in an orderly manner the
large number of cars that use the ferry service.
3 The Variance would observe the spirit of the Ordinance and WOULD NOT CHANGE THE
CFtARACTER OF THE DISTRICT because the site has been used for many years as a
ferry terminal and the new p]ans indicate a great improvement in the site
conditions as well as improvements in service to the pub]ic.
STATE OF NEW YORK )
) ss
COUNTY OF'ff';~:'~ )
Signature
Sworn to this ............. :%.~ ............................ day of ................
,/~ z~?.~%.:.. :C...: · ':~ .~:'~.. .':'?.. ..(. ........................ Notary Public
FEB ,$1984,
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
'J"lJwg ~J~M DECISION OF BUILDING INSPECTOR
APPEAL NO.k-~)c-~-/~
DATE ...~.~..~./~,.~.,..
TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, N. Y.
I, (We).(~.[q.s..s....S.9..u..n..d....F.e.r.[Z...S..e.r..v.!..c..e.~.,...[~].c..-.of .......... .P. 0..B....3..3. ......................................................
Name of Appella.nt Street and Number
................ I)l.~...L..o..n..d..o..n. .................................................................. .C..T. ............... HEREBY APPEAL TO
Municipality State
THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FROM THE DECISION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ON
APPLICATION DATED:02/15/84 FOR: CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC.
WHEREBY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR DENIED TO
(X)
( )
(X)
Nome of Applicant for permit
of
... .P..O..B..33 New.L.q.n.~l.o.~).,...CZ 06320 ..................................................
Street and Number Municipality State
PERMIT TO USE
PERMIT FOR OCCUPANCY
PERMIT TO BUILD
1. LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY ...~.~p..~0. a.~J.,....0..r.!..e.g..t. ................................................ .B.z.1' .........
Street and Hamlet Zone
...... J. QQQ..z...1.~...m..9...-....[~ ....................................... OWNER(S):
Map No, Lot No.
DATE PURCHASED: .................. .. .
Inc.
2 PROVISION (S) OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE APPEALED (Indicate the Article Section, Sub-
section and Paragraph of the Zoning Ordinance by number. Do not quote the Ordinance.)
Article VII Section 100-70A & 100-71
F
3. TYPE OF APPEAL Appeal is made herewith for
(X) A VARIANCE to the Zoning Ordinance or Zoning Map
( ) A VARIANCE due to lack of access (State of New York Town Law Chap. 62 Cons. Laws
Art. 16 Sec. 280A Subsection 3
4. PREVIOUS APPEAL A previous appeal 0~ (has not) been made with respect to this decision
of the Building Inspector or with respect to this property.
Such appeal was ( ) request for a special permit
( ) request for a variance
and was made in Appeal No ................................. Dated ......................................................................
)
X)
)
~s requested for the reason that
REASON FOR APPEAL
A Variance to Section 280A Subsection 3
A Variance to the Zoning Ordinance
we would like to
t~o~ ZB! (Continue on other side)
BOARD OF APPEALS, TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
:
In the Matter oT the Petition of :
CROSS SOUND FERRY SFRVT£FF;~ iNC. :
:
to the Board of Appeals of the Town of $outhold :
TO:
NOTICE
TO
ADJACENT
PROPERTY OWNER
YOU ARE HEREBY GIVEN NOTICE:
1. Th,~4 it ~ intention of the undersigned to petition the Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold
to requ~Varianc~,~lqp~g4JqkJ~7~.gRl~q~qX~(~L'~lxl~xrxi,tkX~) [circle choice]
2. That the property which is the subject of the Petition is located adjacent to your property and is des-
cribed as follows: NX Main Road, NYS Route 25~ EX Mary Jane Hicks, SX Gardiners Bay,
WX Henry Baluvelt
)_.
3. That the property which is the subject of such Petition is located in the following zoning district:
Business I
4. That by such Petition, the undersigned will request the following relief: TO bui Id new ferry
terminaI and set back building feet from the state highwa.y.
5. That the provisions of the Southold Town Zoning Code applicable to the relief sought by the under-
signedare Article VII ~-~c:td_on 100-70A & 100-71
6. That within five days from the date hereof, a written Petition requesting the relief specified above will
be filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office at Main Road Southold, New York and you ma), then and there
examine the same during regular office hours. (516) ?~'5-'1809.
7. That before the relief sought may be granted, a public hearing must be held on the matter by the
Board of Appeals; that a notice of such hearing must be published at least five days prior to the date of such
hearing in the Suffolk Times and in the Long Island Traveler-Mattituck Watchman, newspapers published in the
Town of Southold and designated for the publication of such notices; that you or your representative have the
right to appear and be heard at such hearing.
Dated: 02/15/84
CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC.
Petitioner
Post Office Address
POB 33
New London, CT 06730
NAME
PROOF OF MAILING OF NOTICF
ATTACH CERTIFIED MAIL RECEIPTS
ADDRESS
STATE OF NEW ~ORK )
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK)
ZLS'~OW~86L 'O'd'O'$'n · , ~86L 'qed 'OOg~ wJo-I Sd
SS. ~
, ~l.L/¥f ~ , residing at ' ' ': : ~ ' "' '"
, being duly sworn, deposes and says that on the /~-- day
of -[~ /,,~'x~/ ,19 ¥'~ , deponent mailed a true copy of the Notice set forth on the re-
verse side hereof, directed to each of the above-named persons at the addresses set opposite their respective
names; that the addresses set opposite the names of said persons are the addresses of said persons as shown on
the current assessment roll of the Town of $outhold; that said Notices were mailed at the United States Post Of-
rice at L .q; ~ /m~c: ; that said Notices were mailed to each of said persons by
~'~i-{[~d) (registered) mail.
Sworn to before me this /~,':
dayof ~r /~,/.~ / ~, ,19
Notary Public
LINDA F. KOWA
FORM NO. 3
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
BUILDING DEPARTMENT
TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE
SOUTHOLD, N.Y.
NOTICE OF DISAPPROVAL
...................
for permit to construct..~..~. · ............................ . ............... at
Location of Property .............................................................
House No. Street Ham/et
County Tax Map No. 1000 Section ... I~lll}.~ ...... Block .... .C~ ........ Lot J):]
Subdivision -- Filed Map No ................. Lot No ..................
is returned herewith and disapproved on the following grounds .~. ~.~.q.~el~.'.~..~%.... ~.~..-.
,,00~...?. ~. <,~.~...~.....~...~..o,. ~.~.. ,,~.'...~...
.";~.....z... ~...~_,~.......ct_~...~, .......... . ..................... / .......... ^ .......
~....~Y.~o.....~t....~...&.. ..... ~..~.-~.,~-~...~,~,...~. ~.:.?.~ .........
Building Inspector
Clarification: Ferry terminal is listed as a permitted use by Special Excep-
tion in the C-Light Industrial and C-1 General Industrial Districts. Such use
RVl/eO is not listed as a permitted use in the B-1 Zone and a variance is
being requested by referral from the Building Department for:
(1) ferry terminal use, (2) insufficient frontyard setback.
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
PETER P. COHALAN
COUNTY EXECUTIVE
HOWARD DEMARTINI
DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE
COMMUNICATIONS AND
Hay 30, 198~
S.E.Q.R.A.
NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATION
Notice of Determination of Non~Signlficance
PROJECT NAME: C~oss Sound Ferry Services, Inc.
PROJECT NO.: 1022-13c-100-09 SCRG
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 of the implementing regulations
pertaining to Article 8 of the N.Y.S. Enfironmental Quality Review Act of the
Environmental Conservation Law.
The Suffolk County Community Development Office determines the within
project not to have a significant adverse effect on the enviror~ment for the
reasons ~-~icated below..
Please take further notice that this declaration should not be considered
a determination made for any other department or agency which may also have an
application pending for the same or similar project.
TYPE OF ACTION: Type II U~ste~
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: (a) Construct principal building to be for ferry-
terminal use with an insufficient frontyard setback from the easterly, line,
(b) establish ferry-ter~ninal use in this B-1 Zone, (c) construct staging area,
(d) landscaping, (e) bulkhead improvements, and (f) restroom improvements.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, more particularly
known as: 42175 Main Road, Orient, NY; 1000-015-09-11.
REASON SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION: An Environmental Assessment has been
prepared which indicates that no significant adverse effects to the environment
are likely tooccur should this project be implemented as planned.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT: Olga V. Turner, Community
Development Specialist, Suffolk County Community Development, H. Lee Dennison
Building, Veterans Memorial Highway, Hauppauge, NY 11788 (516) 360-5019.
cc:
M~. Jim Bags, CEQ
Mr. Jim McMahon, Southold Community Development
Mri~iWilliam Rogers, Clerk, Suffolk County Legislat,~'e
Ms. Linda Kowalski, Southold Town Board of Appeals%~'
Mr. Foster J. Beach, NYS DOT
M~. Jean Gilman, NYS DEC
EAF
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM
Purpose:, The EAF is designed to help applicants and agencies determine,
in an orderly manner, whether a project or action is likely to be sig-
nificant. The question of whether an action is significant is not al-
ways easy to answer. Freqnently, there are aspects of a project that
are subjective or unmeasurable. It is also understood that those who
will need to determine significance will range from those with little
or no formal knowledge of the environment to those who are technically
expert in environmental analysis. In addition, many who have knowledge
in one particular area may not be aware of the broader concerns affect-
ing the question of significance.
The EAF is intended to provide a method whereby the preparer can
be assured that the determination process has been orderly, comprehen-
sive in nature, and yet flexible to allow the introduction of informa-
tion to fit a project or action.
EAF COMPONENTS: The EAF is comprised of three partsi
Part 1:
Provides objective data and information about a given
project and its site. By identifying basic project data,
it assists a reviewer in the analysis that takes place
in Parts 2 and 3.
Part
This phase of the evaluation focuses on identifying the
range of possible impacts that may occur from a project
or action. It provides guidance as to whether an impact
is likely to be considered small to moderate or whether
it is a potentially-large impact. The form also identi-
fies whether an impact can be mitigated or reduced.
Part 3:
Only if any impact in Part 2 is identified as potentially-
large, then Part 3 is used to evaluate whether or not the
impact is actually important to the municipality in which
the project is located.
Determination of Significance
If you find that one (or more) impact is both larse and its con-
sequence is important, then the project is likely to be significant,-~
and a draft environmental impact statement should be prepared.
Scoping
If a.draft EIS is needed, the Environmental~ssessment Form will
be a valuable tool in determining the scope of the issues to be covered
by the draft EIS.
14-16-2 (12/78)
APPENDIX A
EAF
ENVIRO;~HENTAL ASSESSMENT - PART I
Project Information'
NOTICE: This document is desi?ned to assist in determining whether the action proposed may have a significant
effect on the environment. Please comolete the entire Oata Sheet. Answers to these questions will be considered
as Dart of the aPplication for approval and may be subject to further verification and public review. Provide
any additional information you believe will be needed to complete PARTS 2 and 3.
It is expecteP that comoletion of the EAF will be dependent on information currently available and will not
involve new studies, research or investtqation. If information requiring sucb additional work is unaval~ble.
so indicate and soecify each instance. -
,%A~E OF PROJECT:
Improvements to Orient- Ferry
· . Terminal Facilities
,%
ADD~ESS AND NA/~E OF APPLICANT:
Eh-Consultants Inc.
(Name)
64 North Main Street
(Street)
Southampton~ ~N.Y,, 1'1968
(P.o.)
(State) (Zip)
NAME AND ADDRESS OF OWNER (If Different)
Cross Sound Ferry Services' Inc.
(Name)
Box 33
(Street)
New London, Connecticut 06320
(P.O.) (State) (Zip)
BUS~NESS PHONE: 323-2415 .... *
DESCRIPTION OF PROJECT: (Briefly describe type of project*or action) Construct upland ferry
terminal facilities on the site of existfn~ ferry terminal vehicle staging
area, The prolect is to consist of a terminal butldinE, paved vehicle staginE
area, and paved entrance and exit driveways.
(PLEASE COMPLETE EACH QUESTION - Indtcat~ N.A. if not applicable)
A. SITE DESCRIPTION
(Physical setting of overall project, both develoned and undevel'ooed areas)
1. General character of the land: ~r, enerally unifor~ ~l'ope X
Generally uneven and rollinq or irregular
2. Present land use: Urban , Industrial , Commercial X Suburban Rural Forest
, Agriculture , Other ' "
3. Total acreage of oroject area: 2.2acres.
Aoproximate acreage: Presently After Completion
Presently After Completion
Meadow or Brushland .2 acres .t2 acres l.later Surface Area acres ac-es
Forested acres ___acres Un~egetated (reck,
earth or fill) ! acres .7 acres
Agricultural acres ~acres
tiet)an~ (Kreshwater or Roads, bui~dinqs ....
and other paved
Tidal as Der Articles surfaces 1 acres I acres
24, ,CS or F.C.L.) _acres . acres (Landscaping) '
Other (indicate tyne[ __ acres .3 acres
4. '~hat iS nredominant soil type(s) on nro~ect site? Send
t. Nhat is deoth to bedrock? Unkno~a~
9/~/78 (in Feet}
6. Approximate percentage of proposed project site with slopes: 0-10~ 95 ~; In-19s .5 ~:; 1S: or
greater _ %.
7. Is project contiguous to, or contain a buildinn or site listed on the National Register of Historic
Places? Yes X No '
8. What is the depth to the water table? _6.5 feet (at teat hole)
g. Do hunting or fishing opportunities presently exist in the project area? X Yes
10. Does project site contain any species of plant or animal life that is identified as threatened or
endangered- Yes X No, according to - Identify each species
Are there any unique or unusual land forms on the project site?
formations - __Yes X No. {Describe
(i.e. cliffs, dunes, other geological
12. Is the project site presently used by the con~nunity or neighborhood as an open space or recreation
area - Yes X No.
13. Does the present site offer or include scenic views or vistas known to be important to the con~nunity?
, Yes ~.._~_.~ No
14. St.reams wi)_h.!9 or cont.!guous to project area:
a'%Name of stream andname of river to Which it is tributary
15.
16.
B.
Lakes, Ponds, Wetland areas within or contiguous to project area: - - ': '
a. I(ame Gardiners Bay ''' ; b..~ize (in acres) N/A
What is the Uominant land use and zoning classification within a I/4 mile radius of the project (e.g.
single family residential, R-2) and the scale of development (e.g. 2 story).
BI Business
PROJECT DESCRIPTION
1. Physical dimensions and scale of project (fill in dimensions as appropriate)
a. Total contiguous acreage owned by project sponsor 2.2 acres.
b. Project acreage developed: ~_,l~._aches init~al!y; 1-I-acres ultimately. ~ ~ - .
c. Project acreage to remain undeveloped 1.2+ .
d. Length of project, in miles: .N/A (if appropriate)
e. If proiect is an expansion of existin indicate percent of expansion proposed:
age 1700~ developed acreage N~ ~: ·: : : ! ~,~.
f. Humber Of off-strut parking spaces existino 156+ ; proposed 156+
No change ~rom existing
g. Maximum vehicular trios generated per hour .(upon ccmpletion of project)
h. If residential: Number and type of housing units:
~ne Family Two Family Multiple Family Condominium
~/~
Ultimate
Orientation
"eighborhood-City-Regional
Con~ercial regional
Industrial
Total height of tallest ~ronosed structure __~--~-.feet'
Estimated Employment
building square foot-
-3-
How much natural material (i.e. rock, earth, etc.) will be ren~ved fro4n the site
0 tons
cubic yards.
3. How many acres of veqetation (trees, shrubs, ground Covers) will be re~ved from site - 0 acres·
4. Will any mature forest (over lgO years old) or other locally-important vegetation be removed by this
project? , Yes X No
5. Are there a~y plans for re-vegetation to replace that removed during construction? X Yes
6. If single phase project: Anticipated period of construction
7. If multi-phased project:
Total number of phases anticipated NO.
Anticipated date of commencement phase i __
demolition)
Approximate completion date final phase
month
month
Is phase 1 financially dependent on subseauent Dhases?
months, (including den~)lition).
year (including
year.
Yes NO
8. Will blasting occur during construction? Yes X No
9. Number of jobs generated: during construction 12 ; after pro~ect is complete 5 .
10. Number of ~obs eliminated by this pro~ect 0 .... :
11. Will project require relocation of any pro~ects or facilities? X Yes __No. [f yes, explain:
Present ferry terminal will'be relocated to new building.
12. a. Is surface or subsurface liquid waste disposal involved? X Yes __No:
b. If yes, indicate type of waste (sewage, industrial, etc.) Sewage
c. If surface disposal name of stream into which effluent will be discharged
13. Will surface area of existing lakes, ponds, streams, bays or other surface waterways be increased or
decreased by proposal? Yes X No.
14. Is project or any portion of project located in the 100 year flood plain? ~ Yes No
15. a. Does project involve disposal of solid waste? Yes X No
b. If yes, will an existing solid waste disposal facility be used? __Yes No
c. If yes, give name: : locaEion
d. Uill any wastes not go into a sewage diseosal system or into a sanitary landfill? __Yes
16. Will ornject use herbicides or pesticides? Yes X No
17. Will project routinely produce odors (more than one hour per day)? Yes X No
18. Will project produce operating noise exceeding the local ambience noise levels? Yes X
19. ~ill project result in an increase in energy use? .Yes X No. If yes, indJ~_Jte type(s)
NO
NO
20.
21.
22.
~f ware- supply is from wells indicate oumoin~ capacity [5.6 gals/minute.
Total antic)nateU water usaqe per day _2_2_~.500 gals/day. (max)
Zoning: a. iJhat ~s dominant zoning classification of site? BI-business
26,
Approvals:
a. Is any Federal permit required? Yes X No
b. Does project involve State or Federal funding or financing? X Yes No
c. Local and Regional approvals:
Approval Requi red Submittal Approval
(Yes, No) (Type) (Date) (Date)
City, Town, Village Board
City, Town. Village Planning Board
City, Town, Zoning Board
City, County Heal th Department
Other local agencies
Other regional agencies
State Agencies
Federal Agencies
C. INFORI~ATIONAL DETAILS
Attach any additional information as may be needed to clarify your project. If there are or may be any
adverse imPacts associated with the~groposal, please discuss such impacts and the measures which can be
taken to mitigate or avoid them f~/ ~ //
TITLE: Pre~iBe~t. Em-O~sultants Inc.
REPRES[NT~NG: Cross Sound Ferry
DATE: May 29~ 1984
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EAF
ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT - PART II
Project Impacts and Their Magnitude
General Information {Read Carefully}
- In completing the form the reviewer should be guided by the question: Have my decisions and determinations
been reasonable? The reviewer is not expected to be an expert environmental analyst.
- Identifying that an effect will be potentially large {column 2) does not mean that it is also necessarily
significant. Any large effect must be evaluated in PART 3 to determine significance. By identiCying an
'effect in column 2 simply asks that it be looked at further.
- The Examples provided are to assist the reviewer by showing types of effects and wherever possible the tnreshnld
Of ~that would trigger a response in column 2. The examples are generally applicable throughout the
State and for m~st situations. But, for any specific project or site other examples and/or lower thresholds
may be more appropriate for a Potential Large Impact rating.
-' Each pmject, on each site, fn each locality, will vary. Therefore, the examples have been offered as guidance.
They do not constitute an exhaustive list of impacts and thresholds to answer each Question.
~'~'- The number of examples per question does not indicate the importance of each question.
INSTRUCTIONS (Read Carefully)
a, Answer each of the 18 questions in PART 2. AnSwer Ye__s if there will be any effect.
b. Maybe answers should be considered as Yes answers.
¢. If answering Yes to a ouestion then check the appropriate box (column 1 or 2) to indicate the ootential
size of the impact. If impact threshold equals or exceeds any example provided, check column 2. If
impact will occur but threshold is lower than example, check column 1.
d. If reviewer has doubt about the size of the impact then consider tne imoact as potentially large and
proceed to PART 3.
e. If a potentially large impact or effect can be reduced by a change in the project to a less than large
magnitude, place a Yes in column 3. A No response indicates that such a reduction is not possible.
1.
IMPACT ON LAND
NO YES
Examples that Would Aoply to Column 2
Any construction on slopes of 15% or greater, {15 foot rise ~er
100 foot of length), or where the general slopes in the project
area exceed 10%.
Construction on Land where the denth to the water table is less
than 3 feet.
ronstruction of naved oarkinq area Cnr 1,~q or mnre vehicles.
C~nstruction on land where bedrock is exnosed or generally
within J feet of existing ground surface.
Construction that will continue for more than 1 year or involve
more than one nhase or stage.
Excavation For mining purposes that would remove more than 1,000
tons of natural material (i.e. rock or soil) per vear.
Construction of any new sanitary landf Il.
-5-
SMALL TO POTENTIAL CAN IMPACT BE
MODEPJkTf LARGE REDUCED BY ·
IMPACT IMPACT PROJECT CHANGE
WILL THERE BE AN EFFECT AS A RESULT OF A PHYSICAL CHANGE TO
PROJECT SITE?
__ Construction in a designated floodway.
Other impacts:
WILL THERE BE AN EFFECT TO ANY UNIQUE OR UNIISUAL LANQ FnR~s
FOUND ON THE SITE? (i.e. cliffs, dunes, eeoloqtcal for~-
t~o~s, etc. ) - '
Specific land forms:
!~PACT ON WATER
3. WILL pROJEcT AFFEcT ANY WATER BODY DESI~IATED AS .......
PROTECTED? (Under Articles 15, 24, 25 of the Envir-
onmental Conservation Law, E.C.L.)
Examole~ that Would Aoply to Coltmn 2
-- Orodgtnp more than 100 cubic yards of material from
channel of a protected stream.
-- Construction in a designated freshwater or tidal wetland.
Other impacts:
NO YES
Examoles that Would Apply to Colum~ 2
A 10% increase or decrease in the surface area of any body
of water or more than a 10 acre increase or decrease.
Construction of a body of water that exceeds l0 acres of
surface area.
Other tm~acts:
NO YES
WILL PROJECT AFFECT SURFACE OR GROUNDWATER AIALITY~ ~ ~
Examples that ~lould Apply tO Column 2
Project will require a discharge permit.
Project requires use of a source of water that does not have
apDroval to serve Proposed project.
Project requires water suoply from wells with oreater
Project wt)) adversely affect grounqwater.
~ALL TO 'POTENTIAL CAN I:IPACT BE
aqDEIL~TI LARGE REDUCED BY
X~PACT IMPACT PROJECT CHANGE
ES
$
patterns but
7.
NILL PRQJECT ALTE~ DRAINAGE FLQW, PATTEhNS oq SURFACE !lATER NO YES
RUNOFF? ................................................... OG
Example ~noly to Colu~ 2
that '~ou ld
P~ject wnuld impede flood water flows.
P~ject is likely to cause substantial e~sion.
Pmject is inco~atible with existing drainage oattems.
Other impacts:~ew ~av~d a~a~ w~]l nl~ ~innge
will be picked up by on-~ite drainage.
I~ YES
~ILL PROJECT AFFECT A R QUALITY? ......................
Fxamoles that Hould Apoly to Colu~ Z
PmJect will toduce l,~O0 or ~ vehicle trips in any given
hour.
P~Ject will resu]t in the incineration ~f ~ than ] ton
of ~fuse per hour.
P~Ject emission rate of all contaminants will exceed 5
lbs. ocr hour or a heat snurce n~ouc ng ~re than lO
million BTU's per hour.
Other i~acts:
IMPACT O~ ~LANTS AND A4I~A~S
~ YES
WILL PROJECT AFFECT ANY THREATE~E~ OR E~DAN~EREO S~ECIES?
Examples that Would A~oly to Colu~ 2 G O
Reduction of one or ~ species listed on the New York
or Federal list, bsing the site, over or near site or
found on the site,
Re~val of any ~ortion of a critical or $iqnificant wild-
life hab~C.
Ao~licatinn of Pesticide or he,~icido over ~re than
EMDANqERED SPECIES? ....................................... GO
-7-
Project will result in the elimination or major
screening of scenic views or vistas known to be
important to the area·
'Other impacts:
NO
11.
IMPACT ON HIKTORIC RESOURCES
WILL PROJECT It.~PACT ANY SITE OR STRUCTURE OF HISTORIC, NO
PRE-HI~TQPIC DR PALEONTOCIC~L I)'POPTANCE? ................. ~
Examples that Would AoDl.v to Column 2
Project occurino wholly or nartially within or contiouous
tO any Cacilitv or site listed on the National Reois~er of
historic places.
Any impact to an archeological s,lSte or fossil bed located
within the project site.
Other impacts:
IMPACT ON OPEN SPACE & RECREATION
WILL THE PRnJECT AFFECT THE OUANTITY OR QUALITY OF EXISTING NO
OR FUTURE OPEN SPACES OR RECREATIONAL OPPORTU~;ITIES? ......
Examples that Would Aoply to Column 2
The permanen~ foreclosure of a future recreational opportunity.
A major reduction of an open space important to the tone, unity.
Other im~acts~
IMoACT nN TP~qNSPORTATION
!'ILL THERE BE AN EFFECT TO EXISTING TRANSPORTATIDN
SYSTEMS?
Examples that Would Ann]¥ to Column 2 ¢~
Alteration of present patterns of move~nt of neople
and/or goods.
Project will result in severe traffic ~roblems.
NO
~ALL Tn nOTE!(TIAL CA)~ Il!PACT BE
(ODERATI L~RGE ~EDUCED ~¥
E~
)
YES
YES
YES
* Present transportation systems will be maintained
but in a more efficient manner.
Other ~mpacts:
I ?. 9.
SMALL TO POTENTIAL CAN IMPACT BE
~!ODERATE LA~GE REDUCED BY
IMPACT I'~PACT PROJECT CHANGE:
,MPAC. ON ENERGY
i-'. ,hL. ,ROJECT AFFECT THE COMMUNITIES SOURCES OF FUEL OR NO YES
E~E~qY SUPPLY? ........................................... ~,~,~ ~,,~
Examoles that Would ~D~ly to Column 2
Project causing areater than 5% increase in any form of
energy used in municipality.
P~ject reouiring the creation or extension of an energy
transmission or Supply system to serve ~re than 5~ sinqle
or two family residences.
Other impacts:
IMPACT ON NOISE
15. WILL THERE BE OBJECTIONABLE O~RS, NOISE, GLARE, VIBRATION NO YES
or ELECTRICAL DISTURBANCE AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT? ....
Examples that Uoul~ ADDly to Colu~ 2 ..
Blasting within 1,SOO feet of a hospital, school or other
sensitive facility.
Adors will occur ~utinely (~re than one hour per day).
Pm~ect will nroduce o~erating noise exceedinn the
~ local ambient noise levels for noise o~side of structures.
Pm]eot will re~ve natural barriers that would act as ~
noise screen.
Ather i~nacts:
I~PACT ON HEALTH & HA~ARD~
NQ YES
:6. 'IILL PPOJECT AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY? .............
Examples that Would Apply to Column 2
Proiec~ will cause a ~isk ~ ex31osion or release of hazardous
~ substances ~'.e. oil, pesticides, chemicals, radiation, etc.)
in the event of accident or ugset conditions, or .there will
IMPACT ON GROWTH AND CHARACTER OF COMIIUNITY OR !IEIOURDR~D~D
17. WILL PROJECT AFFECT THE CHARACTED ~F THE EXISTING
COMMUNITY? ................................................ QO
Example that Would Apoly to Column 2
The population of the City, Town or Village in which the
project is located is likely to grow by more than 5% oF
resident human population.
The municipal budgets for capital expenditures or opera-
ting services will increase by more tNan 5% Der year as a
PIAI.L Te POTENTIAL CAN IMPACT BE
~ODERATE LARGE REDUCED BY
IMPACT dIDACT PROJECT CHANGE
NO YES
NO
result of this project.
YES
18. IS THERE PUBLIC CONTROVERSY CONCERNING THE PROJECT? .
Examples that Would Apply to Column 2
Either government or citizens of adjacent communities
have expressed OPposition or rejected the project or have
not been contacted.
__ ~ections to the nro~ect from within the conmnunitv.
',~--'~,~>' ~ IF ANY ACTION IN PART 2 IS IDENTIFIED AS A i
PQTENTIAL LARGE IMPACT OR IF YOU CANNOT DETERMINE
' ~ - THE MAGNITUDE OF IMPACT, PROCEED TO PART 3.
PORTIONS OF EAF COMPkETED FOR THIS PROJECT:
DETERMINATION " PART I X PART II X PART 3
Upon review of the information recorded on this EAF (Parts l, 2
and 3) and considerinq both the maQnitude and imnortance of each
i~act, it is reasonably determined that: PREPARE A !iECATIVE D~CLARATIDN
A. The project will result in no major impacts and, therefore,
is one which may not cause significant damaoe to the environment.
B. AlthougN the project could have a significant effect on the
environment, there will not be a significant effect in this case PREPARE A NEgaTiVE DECLA~ATION
because the mitigation measures described in PART 3 have been
included as part of the nroposed project.
C. The Project will result In one or more maior adverse ~mnacts PREPARE POSITIVE DECLARATION PROCEED WITH EIS
that cannot be reduced and ma cause siqnificant damage to
the environment. ~
May 29, 1984
~'~-Fn~F~ ~ F RD s Don s ~ ~ 1 e
Roy L. Haje, Prb~_dent, E~Consultantm Inc.
Lead
Signature of ~erenarer (if ditk~are-'~ from rJesnonslDl~-f~e'r)
Other imoacts:
Will involve any oermanent facility of a non-aqricultural
use in an agricultural district or remove nrime agricultural
lands from cultivation.
.The project will replace or eliminate existing facilities,
Development will induce an influx of a particular age
group with special needs. . .
Project will set an important precedent for future prolects.
Project will relocate 15 or more emnloyees in one or more
businesses.
Southold
Town Board of Appeals
April
1984 Regular Meeting
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 3219.
Application of CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., Box 33, New London,
CT 06730 for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article VII, Section
lO0-70(A) and Section 100-71 for permission to: [a] construct principal
building with an insufficient frontyard setback from the easterly property
line and [b] establish a ferry-terminal use in this B-1 Business District.
Location of Property: 42175 Main Road, Orient, NY; County Tax Map Parcel
Nos. 1000-015-09-11.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 9:27 p.m. and read the appeal
application and legal notice of hearing.
CHAIRMAN GOEHRINGER: I have a copy of the Suffolk County Tax Map
and a copy of the proposed plan dated January 21, 1984, received
February 16, 1984 showing the approximate placement of approximately
40' from the east side, 30' from the west side of the property, adjoin-
ing property -- I'm sorry, this is upside down-- so my coordinates
should be 40' from the west side and 30' from the east side; a building
of an approximate configuration with irregularities of 45-50. Mr.
Young, would you like to be heard?
HOWARD YOUNG: I'm Howard Young. Young & Young, Riverhead, New
York. I'm the surveyor for the applicant. I'll just say a few things
on their behalf, and Mr. McMahon would like to say a few. Cross Sound
Ferry Services, Inc. has asked me to appear here tonight to answer
any questions that the board may have or the public. I certainly don't
want to intend to be very knowledgeable of your zoning ordinance, but
I believe that the use has been established for a good many years here
as a ferry terminal, and a ferry terminal is a very unique land use.
And the Cross Sound Ferry Services is very interested in upgrading
their service to the public and wish to build a new terminal. The
terminal building will be mainly a waiting area, lounge, ticket office,
toilet facilities. In order that, to build this building here with the
new flood zone requirements, we had to elevate the building at a
considerable height, and will require a good, large amount of fill
to be brought into the site to obtain a finished floor elevation of
I believe ll feet. Because of this and the unique use of the property
and trying to stage cars in an orderly fashion to loak onto the ferry,
we have had to squeeze the building to the eastern side of the
property, which is adjacent to a 5-foot strip of land, now or formerly
owned by Mary Hicks. This parcel of land separates Cross Sound Ferry
terminal's property from the Main Road or the State property on the
east premises. We have maintained a sideyard there to the building of
27 feet, which is well within the sideyard requirements of the ordi-
nance, since we have also a street-- a setback on a side street is
required to be under:iyour ordinance of 35 feet, and we're asking for
a variance there to 32 feet, or a three-foot variance. Because of
the fill and the slope that's required on the other side and the
situation of the drive-in window happen to be the road they're elevated
so that people can use a drive-in like you do at a bank. Every foot
of distance that we could get away from the westerly property line
Southold Town Board~of Appeals
April 5, 1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 - CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. YOUNG continued:
helped on a slope for proper access for vehicles. I think that's
that I would like to say at the present time. I would be glad to
answer any questions of the board or anyone else.
all
MR. CHAIRMAN: There is other property the ferry district owns--
not the ferry district but Cross Sound Ferry?
MR. YOUNG: Cross Sound Ferry Services owns the property on the
east side of the Main Road.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That's where the existing hold station is or
ticket office is or whatever, right now?
MR. YOUNG: Right. The former ticket office was at the head
of the Main Road and now they have moved it over temporarily into
the snack bar to try and provide better service temporarily until
they get this ferry terminal.
MR. CHA1RMANiAndthen it will be dis(---).
MR. YOUNG: Yes, then the ticket office would be removed to
this site if this plan is approved. The other thing, I don't
know whether the board's familiar -- at the Planning Board's meet-
ing last week, I guess, the week before, they had approved the
site plan.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much.
MR. YOUNG: Thank you.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Mr. McMahon?
JAMES McMAHON: Good evening. Just to give you a little informa-
tion how this proposed project got started. I, as the Director of
Community Development for the Town of Southold, was contacted by
Rich McMurray in Cross Sound Ferry asking whether or not there were
any monies available for them to improve their existing site. They
were looking to enhance the facility and prevent some of the problems
that the traffic during the summer months was causing out on Route 25.
The cars, because there was not an adequate staging area, cars were
backing out onto Route 25 and causing a problem. What this proposal
intends to do is to eliminate Number One, that problem of the staging
area, getting the cars off Route 25 and putting some rhyme and reason
into the parking. Previous to Mr. Young's site plan, cars would come
in off Route 25 and there was no rhyme or reason. They could go into
the overnight parking area. They could just go and drive around.
There were no signs directing them to the ticket booth--the old
ticket booth was totally inadequate and didn't have -- in using the
ferry quite a number of times myself, than any more than a half
dozen of people, there was just no room for you to get in out of
the weather, if you were waiting for somebody to pick you up-- a
lot of times it was just not the adequate terminal facility that is
needed with the volume of traffic that Cross Sound Ferry is h6ndling.
Southold Town Board of Appeals April 984
(Appeal No. 3219 ~ CROSS SOUND ?ERRY SERVICES, lINC.,
Regular Meeting
continued:)
MR. McMAHON continued:
The bathrooms were totally inadequate. The ticket area, as I
said, was totally inadequate. The reservation system was inadequate.
In a Cross Sound Ferry study t~hat was done, the State of New York
looked at a number of different sites and found that the Orient Point
site was the most advantageous. When I was contacted by Cross Sound
Ferry as the Town of Southold is a member of the Suffolk County
Community Development Consortium, we arranged for $100,O00-1oan
that, with a low-interest rate, with the premise that the Cross
Sound Ferry would come up with, and as part of their contract create
10 permanent fulltime jobs at the site.
The staging area would be corrected. They would build a new
reception center with adequate toilet facilities. They would improve
the overnight or day parking facilities; and they would put in moor-
ings or dolphins that would enable boats to dock in inclement weather.
As part of our negotiations, we've met with the Cross Sound
Ferry and they have agreed to have a boat originate from Orient Point
with a local crew. As it stands now, the boats all originate from
New London and we thought it would be a nice idea and if they could
guarantee that a boat would originate from Orient, we could have a
guarantee of jobs. They also promised us in writing that they ~re
going to put in a computerized reservation terminal at the Orient
Point facility. As this is one of the first, or the first part of
long Island that people visiting our area see, we have a meeting with
Cross Sound Ferry and Mr. Young to try to devise a plan that is
going to be aethestically pleasing. We're looking to enhance not
only the facility but also the benefits to local commerce, getting
a market--markets in the northeast where our fishermen, or people
who are engaged in nurseries, farming, can find additional markets
in the northeast, and we think since Southold depends heavily upon
recreation and tourism that things can be worked out with the local
chambers of commerce to bring people into the shopping areas of
Greenport, Southold and Mattituck.
One of the problems that in meeting and talking with the
Department of Transportation, because the Department of Transporta-
tion in looking at this project made this project part of the
transportation bond issue that was passed in November, they are
contributing $400,000 to the project. The Suffolk County Community
Development Consortium through the Town of Southold is putting in
$100,000 of low-interest money into the project. One of the
problems that we talked with the D.O.T. about is the traffic on
Route 25 and on Route 48. They have assured us that they are
going to work with us in seeing that the problems that are there
possibly can be limited, and you're not going to in any way reduce
the volume of traffic. They've got roughly 300,000 cars using that
ferry. The idea with this terminal is not to expand the ferry's
use or its ridership, but more or less to provide an adequate
ticket area, an adequate reservation system, an adequate bathroom
facility, and upgrade the whole area.
Southold Town Board~of Appeals
April 5, 1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. McMAHON continued:
We've spent a lot of time, Howard Young and I, in meeting with
the Cross Sound Ferry, and I know they are concerned about the
volumes of traffic. They have made a proposal--I'm sure everybody
lives out here has seen at least in the newspaper the Cape Hanolopin--
the new boat that Cross Sound Ferry purchased, that is capable of
carrying 85 cars and 800 passengers.
One of the things that they are working on is to take very
shortly, maybe even by the end of this year, the Cape Hanolopin
out of service. It may be, as I understand, leased to the State
of New York, and put one or two ferries the size of the New London
that carries 45 cars so you won't have the impact on the local
traffic that the Cape Hanolopin has.
If you have any questions, I'm sure Mr. Young, or I, am familiar
with this project to quite an extent--if you have any questions,
I'd be glad to try to answer them.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Not at the moment. Thank you. Would somebody
like to also speak in favor of the application? (No one). Would
somebody like to speak against the application? Sir? Would you
kindly use the mike and state your name.
NATHAN HICKS: Nathan Hicks, Skippers Lane, Orient. I
represent my wife, who is the owner of the property directly east
of the property in question. I'm here really on two behalfs, Mr.
Chairman, one: the proposed development is as shown is a totally-
usurps any beneficial use my wife could ever have in the future
of that property. That should not be permitted. That's a very
simple set of technical arguments. I'll be very brief with them.
I came down under very difficult road conditions from Boston
today through the courtesy of the canceled ferry, which I had a
reservation on. More to implore on the board that through the
zoning process that's available, this is a private for-profit
monopoly. I have a 35-year history riding with that, and I am
a very substantial user of it now. Very nearly twice a week,
year in, every month of the year. Certainly in the range of
70 or 80 trips a year. The people-- we send people away from
the Town of Southold with a distaste for our community because
of the lack of service that's provided down there, and this is
an organization of a long history of maintaining that lack of
service. So quickly let me say, in regards to my wife's property,
you have a plan before you that raises a level bear in mind that
if you went down there, the way people used to go down in the old
days, for a ride on a Sunday afternoon, it was nice to go to the
end of the road, to buy an ice cream cone. They can't do it now.
The beneficial use of Route 25 has been taken away from the
general public because it's nothing but, it's a swap over from
an operation that can't operate on its own property. The new
scheme would be even worse. It's not an improvement. It's an
Southold Town Board of Appeals
April
984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 - CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. HICKS continued:
aggravation of an existing scheme. And I'll be specific as to why
I believe it is.
Their proposed -- the elevation of the road in front of the
Jiffy Bite is eight feet. They're proposing to go 25 feet from
my wife's property line at an elevation of ll feet. But her
property is at an elevation of five feet. They're showing a
12-foot driveway in which they propose all of this traffic from
the ferry to exit through a 12-foot driveway. That's my own
home driveway glorified. They have to be raising the level of
the pavement at our property line either in the range of three,
three and one-half, or they're going to slope down and make us
a catch basin for their whole problem. I don't think that a
three-foot vertical wall is in keeping with normal construction
standards. You have loaded tractor-trailers coming over there.
I see no provision for a curb to control water runoff even if
it were permitted. I see no problem for a safety fence. If it
is stepped back to normal two feet for one foot in elevation,
they've suddenly taken away seven feet of that 12-foot driveway
and left with five feet. Every tractor-trailer, almost every
tractor-trailer--and I don't belittle the trucking industry--
the cars are equally guilty of this, but the problem is that
the trailers are bigger and you're more aware of it. Almost
every one you've got sitting at the ferry at this end stops
to either call their office, or book another reservation.
That's all you do. Put them in this 12-foot driveway, and the
whole situation is stuck. The entire operation then bails out
onto 25 again. There isn't a hardship involved. The ferry
isn't going to go out of there. The intent of the zoning ordi-
nance is to do away with nonconforming uses. The entire area
down there should be zoned commercial under, in--where the
ferry terminal is permitted, in directing these people to come
in with a proper master plan that addresses traffic control not
only in 1984, in 1994, in 2004. I go back 35 years. That
time goes by like nothing. We're involved -- what is the
saturation point of Route 25. How much can we push on this
community of Orient, the people. Over the years this
unregulated agency has developed a tremendous under-current
or dissatisfaction within the community. This should be an
opportunity to provide for a public hearing so that proper
authority can hear. What is that dissatisfaction? Where does
it input properly into master plan zoning for the area and
provide either you people or some other regulatory authority
of the Town of Southold who as a condition to granting the
approval of such a plan, to place regulations on it. These
ideas; they're great. I'm happy that somebody is trying to
stir up things like Mr. McMahon. But they're figments of an
imagination. They're not contracts in writing. They haven't
materialized in the past and I don't believe they're going to
materialize in the future.
I think the Town of South--your constituents are dissatis-
fied with the operation. I think you have an opportunity to
Southold Town Board~f Appeals April 5, 1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 ~ CROSS SOUND FERRY S£RVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. HICKS continued:
regulate it through the zoning process, and I hope that you don't
bypass that opportunity.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much, Mr. Hicks. Is there
anybody else that would like to speak against the application?
(No response.) Anything in rebuttal, gentlemen?
JAMES McMAHON: I, just -- in reading the Long Island ferry
study, would have to agree to a lot of what Mr. Hicks, as far as
the Cross Sound Ferry's reputation in the past had been is true.
What we are attempting to do here is correct the reservation system
that was totally inadequate. You call up and they just weren't
able to guarantee you the ability to get on the boat. One of the
things unfortunately with the way that the ferry system is set up
now without the proper dolphins and bulkheads, they are not able
to provide the kinds of services they would like to provide and
having this boat run back and forth without being affected as they
are now by the weather when they have weather such as we had over
the last couple of days. They need additional dolphins to enable
this boat to dock properly. If the State of New York is willing
and has seen the need for the service, all these proposals that
are presented to the State of New York under the transportation
bond issue were on a competitive basis. The State of New York
granted $400,000 to Cross Sound ferry with no strings attached
other than Cross Sound Ferry provide decent ferry service, and
that's what the $400,000 Department of Transportation granted--
Cross Sound Ferry is attempting to do. With the $100,000 that
came through the Community Development Office, in writing and
signed by the Town of Southold and the Cross Sound Ferry, they
have to guarantee ten permanent jobs. They have to guarantee
that a boat is going to leave Orient Point, and I think, you
know, I don't like to see the increase of traffic on Route 48
or Route 25, but I also don't like to see farms go out of busi-
ness simply because -- or if we're trying to keep agriculture
on the North Fork, we have to have a place for our farmers to
send their produce. We have to have a place for our nurserymen
to send their produce. And if we can expand the markets into
the northeast and maybe give these guys another breath of air,
then I think that the inconvenience of the traffic on Route 25,
or Route 48, is something that is not going to get any better.
It's probably going to get worse. But I would like to see as
a benefit to the community here, because we do benefit so much
by tourism, is that the people are going to use the ferry terminal
no matter what. What I'm suggesting is that we have a decent
reservation system, a place where people can get in out of the
weather, where they can secure their tickets if they get off the
boat or they're waiting for the boat; there is adequate restrooms
there. I think those are the types of things that without this
change that we're talking about tonight, we'll just have the same
kind of conditions that is existing there now. What you have
Southold Town Board
(Appeal No. 3219 -
of Appeals April 5,~'~1984 Regular Meeting
CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. McMAHON continued:
there now is a smaller room no bigger than the jury box that is
supposed to provide over the course of the summer a restroom
facility for 300,000 people. That's not adequate. The dirt, the
dust, the lack of rhyme or reason for cars coming off of Route 25,
they get there and there's no direction as to where to go. It's
a mess, and I'll be the first one to admit, it is a mess. And
what we're attempting to do here is to correct that mess. If
the application is denied, well then we sit with a mess-- I don't
know. We sit with a mess. We're back to Square One.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. McMahon. Mr. Hicks?
MR. HICKS: Can I just comment briefly. I didn't-- I neg-
lected to point out that one of my problems with the site plan
is the one safety factor you have down there now in alleviating
any traffic situation is if that was open and a tractor-trailer
blocks the lane directly coming out from the ferry, the next one
blocks Route 25 and you still have room to squeeze around, the
staging area that's presented here is no larger. They have the
room right now. They don't have to create an impervious surface
down there to put on. The little building that's going up there
isn't that much better than what they've got now, although I
don't think they should be using that building. They've taken
away a restaurant facility from the general public down there and
it's not a permitted use in that zone. As it ( inaudible
half the use of what they're applying for right now. They're
only grandfathered under half of this site. They took over this
other half of the site from a private home and they converted it
to ferry use, and they don't come to you asking for the proper
permission. They're an unregulated monopoly is what they are.
To put that building in there locks you into a problem. If --
The reservation service is in now. The staging area is in now.
They need a better terminal. But this isn't it. It needs to
be bigger than this. It needs to be better planned. That's
what we need. This is going to create a -- aggravate the hazard.
You take away one of the safety valves for traffic to get out of
there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Yes, Howard.
MR. YOUNG: I would be glad to answer any -- the technical
merits of this plan that the board may have. Certainly some of
the things that Mr. Hicks has pointed out are incorrect. We've
taken quite some care not to disturb his property complaining of
this and slopes from his property up. And when he mentions that
we would distroy the use of his property, I don't know what that
use is, being that it's five-feet wide. I also believe that the
Cross Sound Ferry has attempted to purchase the property from
the owners, and the present -- the part of the trucks-unloading
truck drivers are some of the best drivers in the world; usually
they're not the ones that cause traffic jams. The intent, as long
Southold Town Board~f Appeals
April 5, 1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. YOUNG continued:
as they can off load in the same manner that they have been, and I
don't see that that has changed any--we have provided an additional
12-foot with a cross through the property adjacent to Mr. -as well
as the existing way that they come off the ferry onto 25.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Has anything been taken into consideration con-
cerning the elevation factors that Mr. Hicks has mentioned and the
drainage problem that might exist on his property?
MR. YOUNG: Yes. They're shown on the plan.
MR. CHAIRMAN: And what will be the difference in elevation
between the two?
MR. YOUNG: The property is, and he says, the property here is
between elevation five and six, and our proposed contour here of 6,
or 7 wraps around here. The majority of the slope to get up to the
building here is on this grass part here where we have a one on two
slope. We also proposed drainage bins on the ~change tape to side B) end,
which is going to be excavated down to clean sand and backfilled with
gravel there so that any runoff from our paving would enter a gravel
landscaped area there and recharge into the ground. We've provided
those places here.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Has anything been done concerning the no-parking
areas for the discharge of trucks and cars and such as Mr. Hicks
has mentioned so that this problem doesn't exist that he eluded to?
MR. YOUNG: So that--
MR. CHAIRMAN: So that we have no problems with cars stopping
short as they have done before?
MR. YOUNG: Certainly that could be a problem.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I know they do that. I'm just asking.
MR. YOUNG: We certainly have provided parking spaces on the
12-foot exit there that is on the property of Cross Sound Ferry
here so that people want to stop for some reason could go into the
terminal and pick somebody up. The people now stop at anyplace
but doesn't pick up people. There is no -- We have a state road
which they park on and we don't anticipate interrupting traffic
there any more than we have. I believe he also mentioned about
taking the restaurant away. It is the intent of the owner to
move the ticket office back to the new terminal and to continue
that as a snack bar. But that is a (inaudible)piece of property
right now. The only use as far as a variance goes on that property
is the overnight parking.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Thank you. Are there any other comments?
Southold Town Board of Appeals April 5,~'~1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 - CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
Mr. Hicks, we will take another look at this site prior to any deter-
mination from this board. We will go out, reinspect it again as
we have done in the past, and we will try and protect your interests
to the best of our ability. That is all I can tell you at this
particular time and we thank you very much for driving down all the
way from Boston. Oh, I'm sorry -- Mr. Douglass has a question.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: I would like to ask Mr. McMahon one thing.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Sure.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: You mentioned in your arguments that Cross
Sound has promised this town so many permanent jobs. Are you of
the knowledge that there are none on board those present boats at
the present time and that they are importing from Connecticut all
machinery and equipment that is doing the job that Mr. Young has
surveyed?
MR. McMAHON: Yes, I've spoken to Cross Sound Ferry ~bout that.
One of the reasons for having a boat docked at Orient was that it
would provide for a local crew, that you would have a crew from the
Southold Town or North Fork that instead of having the boat take
off from New London, it would almost require you to live in New
London because the boat is going to be back in New London each
night. Having a ferry leave from Orient Point makes it advantageous
for Cross Sound Ferry, and they have indicated that they would be
willing to have a crew that is made up of men from or women from
the North Fork.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Do you know how available those people are
here?
MR. McMAHON: I have talked and sent two gentlemen that have
recently graduated from the naval, Fort Schyler there--
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Maritime Academy.
MR. McMAHON: The Maritime Academy, and they are Southold Town
residents and they're going to make a good effort to hire those.
MEMBER DOUGLASS:
taken on.
They're working for me, because they weren't
MR. McMAHON: That's correct. But if we put on, and they are
in the--Cross Sound Ferry is in the process now of moving up from
Louisiana, I believe, an off-shore workboat that is going to be
used as a ferry; and they are in the process of building a new boat
very similar to the New London to replace the Cape Hanolopin and we
have with the Department of Transportation money because that is
coming from the Town of Southold as is the $100,000 from the County
Southold Town Boar,
Appeals April 5, 1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
MR. McMAHON continued:
is coming through the Town of Southold. We have as many hooks into
Cross Sound Ferry as we can to insure that all the permits that are
required or obtained that the jobs that are promised are real jobs.
We have their assurance instead of locating the reservation system
in New London that it will be here in Orient and that we will have
computer operators on hand and they will be local people that will
run the reservation system. I was myself as you mentioned when they
came and filled part of that parking lot with trucks from New London,
I mentioned to Rich McMurray that it is not a good practice if you're
looking to establish a business here that you should hire local con-
tractors, and that has always been my contingent of local contractors--
should be hired with any kind of a town or community development
project.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: Is it a legal practice?
MR. McMAHON: A legal practice? In this particular case under
the Department of Transportation, they don't have to go out to bid.
The contractor can select whoever he wants.
MEMBER DOUGLASS: I don't mean that. I know it doesn't have
to go out to bid. I don't mean that at all. I mean as a legal
process to hire illegal operators to work over here.
MR. McMAHON: I wasn't aware that that would have--.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Just wait one second, please. Are you done, Bob?
Just briefly, Mr. Hicks.
MR. HICKS: Mr. Young's comments regarding any contact between
the ferry and my wife are wrong. I think it's wrong for him to stand
up here and say something like that as a statement before the board
that I have to rebut it. They not only have never contacted us with
that in mind, they have never discussed with us this particular plan
with any attempt to ameliorate any problems that exist between their
development and our site. A prudent developer would do that, wouldn't
they? Back in the Fall, he suggested there was going to be a develop-
ment scheme and that they would furnish us with a map. When I went
to New London to pick up the map it was not available. She said it
would be sent over the next week. They carefully ignored the thing
ever since. When I seen the plan, when I came up and got mine,
through the courtesy of Linda (ZBA secretary) and the xerox machine
in the Assessors Office which I paid for, that was my first look at
it, and when I had seen the plan, I know why they wouldn't approach
me with it. It's a disgraceful plan and they could recognize my
reaction. The cognizance of Mr. Young purported in expertise of
a situation down there at the Point indicate that he is not an
expert on it. He's very unfamiliar with the day and day situation
down there with the problems that exist, and it should be considered
by this board in that light.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
(Appeal No. 3219 -
MR. CHAIRMAN:
MR. YOUNG:
April 984 Regular Meeting
CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC., continued:)
Thank you, sir. Yes, Mr. Young.
I apologize if I was in error about them contacting
you, but I was with the boss or the owner of Cross Sound Ferry when
he asked one of his Vice-Presidents there if he would contact Mrs.
Hicks. If they didn't do so, I apologize.
MR. HICKS: I'm also amazed at how a
a confident survey or plan through to the
property.
sideyard setback shows
far dimension of my
on
MR. YOUNG: That's showing the road setback, sir. And the
setback on the plan is to your property. It shows 27 feet from
your property line.
MR. HICKS: All I see is a 30-foot dimension.
MR. YOUNG: Would you like to look at it?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Howard, would you point it out to him please?
MR. HICKS: That's two dimensions.
MR. YOUNG: You can't add? It says 27 feet here, 13 plus 12, right?
MR. HICKS: There's the dimension of 30 feet.
MR. YOUNG: Right. That's what we asking an appeal on because
the ordinance says it has to be 30 feet back from the street line.
MR. HICKS: I think you have an obligation to spell out like that
far more clearly. It's almost an obvious attempt to try and produce
something that's really not accurate. This plan doesn't show any
grades there. Where is your elevation at that 12-foot point? What's
your finished elevation of the pavement? It isn't there!
MR. YOUNG: I don't want to get into an argument here. It is
there, sir.
MR. LESSARD: We don't want this to get into a verbal debate--
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes, I understand that.
MR. YOUNG: If you would like to take the plan to an engineering
firm and have them review it, I don't know what Mr. Hicks is--
MR. HICKS: If he's down to our grade there, he's got a driveway
that goes like this.
MR. YOUNG: It's not that way.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Let me have that--we're going to go back out on
Southold Town Board~of Appeals
April 5, 1984 Regular Meeting
(Appeal No. 3219 - CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, 'INC., continued:
MR. CHAIRMAN continued:
Saturday morning and reinvestigate this and I don't know if we ll be
in need of your expertise, Mr. Young.
MR. YOUNG: I would also like to mention one more thing that I
believe the Hicks have been very aware of this thing. Mrs. Hicks
called me and asked me to survey her property there and that she
would like to put up a fence on the property. And I told her that
I was working for the Cross Sound Ferry and I didn't think it would
be right if I got into any kind of legal problem with the ferry
company, and Mrs. Hicks, she was very nice, and I thought I was
being very cooperative with her.
MRS. HICKS: I was really -- I didn't say a fence, I said I
wanted to put up a sign just in case when I first heard about this
plan. But that's very true I did call him up and he was very nice
(remainder of statement no audible due to sh~fling of papers).
MR. CHAIRMAN: I am going to ask the board after this hearing
if they will go out again and investigate this plan on Monday,
excuse me, Saturday morning at everybody's convenience, and we
will be out there; we will be viewing the cars again. Of course
it's not the busiest season of the year. If we're in need of
your expertise, Mr. Young, we'll call you'also. And as I said to
you before, Mr. Hicks, we will do the best we possibly can. Thank
you all for coming in.
On motion by Mr. Goehringer, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED,
reinspection in
FERRY SERVICES,
to close the hearing and reserve decision pending
the matter of Appeal No. 3219, for CROSS SOUND
INC.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Goehringer, Grigonis,
Douglass and Sawicki. (Member Doyen of Fishers Island was absent
due to weather conditions.) This resolution was unanimously
adopted.
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8, Will project have a major effect on visual char-
acter of the conmunit7 or scenic views or vistas
know~ to be important to the community? . · ·
9. Will project adversely impact any site or struct-
ure of historic, pre-historic, or paleontological
importance or any site designated as a critical
environmental area by a local agency? , , , -- Yes ~ No
10. Will project have a major effect on existing or
future recreational opportunities~ . . . Yes ~ No
11. Will project result in major traffic problems or
cause a major effect to existing transportation
systems? . , . . . . . . . , . . Yes X No
12. Will project regularly cause objectionable odors~
noise, glare, vibration, or electrical disturb-
ance as a result of the project's operation? · Yes--X No
13. Will project have any impact on public health or
safety? o · · · · · · o.o . . . Yes ~ No
1L. Will project &ffect the existing community by
directly causing a growth in permanent popula-
tion of more than 5 percent over a one-year
period o__r have a major negative effect on the
character of ~he com. munity or neighborhood?, . Yes ~ No
PREP~ER'$ SIGNATURE:~A~ ~4_/~/.~'~'~J ~. TITtE: Land Survel~or
REPRESENTING: Cross Sou~dy~errl¥/~er~ i ce, DATE: 02/15/84
Southold Town Board of Appeals
MAIN ROAD- STATE ROAD 25 SOUTHOLD, L.I., N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
March 2, 1984
GERARD P. GOEHRINGER, CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR. S.E.Q.~.A.
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
ROBERTJ. DOUGLASS NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL DECLAP~TION
JOSEPH
H.
SAWICKI
Notice of Determination of Non-Significance
APPF~L NO.: 3219
PROJECT NA~IE: CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC.
This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 of the implementing
regulations pertaining to Article 8 of the N.Y.S. Environmental
Quality Review Act of the Environmental Conservation Law and Local
Law #44-4 of the Town of Southold.
This board determines
cant adverse effect on the
below.
the within project not to have a signifi-
environment for the reasons indicated
Please take further notice that this declaration should not be
considered a determination made for any other department or agency
which may also have an application pending for the same or similar
project.
TYPE OF ACTION: [X] Type II [ ] Unlisted [ ]
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION: (a) Construct principal building to be
for ferry-terminal use with an insufficient fr0ntyard setback from
the easterly line, (b) establish ferry-terminal use in this B-] Zone.
LOCATION OF PROJECT: Town of Southold, County of Suffolk, more
particularly known as: 42175 Main Road, Orient, NY; 1000-015-09-1l.
REASON(S) SUPPORTING THIS DETEP~INATIONi
(1) An Environmental Assessment in the short form has been
submitted which indicates that no significant adverse effects to
the envirornnent are likely to occur should this project be imple-
mented as planned;
(2) The project is not ]0cated within 300 feet of tidal wet]ands
or other critical environmental area;
(3) Proposed building is landward of existing ticket booth building.
FOR FURTHER INFOP~TION, PLEASE CONTACT: Linda Kowalski, Secretary,
Southold Town Board of Appeals, Town Hall, Southold, NY 11971; tel. 516-
765-1809 or 1802.
Copies of this notice sent to the applicant or his agent and posted
on the Town Clerk Bulletin Board.
QUESTIONNAIRE TO BE COMPLETED AND FILED WITH APPLICATION TO THE Z.B.A.
The New York State Tidal Wetlands and Use Regulations, 6 NYCRR, Part 661, requires
an application to the N.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conservation, Environmental
Analysis Unit, Building 40, S.U.N.Y., Stony Brook, NY 11794, (tel. 516-751-7900), if
you have checked Box #1 and/or Box #6 below. Please either call their office or
personally visit them at their Stony Brook office for instructions and application
forms. Once you have received written notification of approva please provide our
office with a copy (with the conditions) as early as possible in order that we may
continue processing your Z.B.A. application.
[ ] I.
[X]
[ ] 3.
[X] 4.
[ ] 5.
[ ] 6.
[ ] 7.
Waterfront without bulkheading
Waterfront with bulkheading in good condition
[ ] the full length of the property
[ X ] at least 100' in length
Not located within 300' of waterfront or wetlands area
May be located within 300' of waterfront or wetlands area; however,
the following structure separates my property from this environmental
area:
[ ] 50' existing road
[ X ] existing structures
[ ] bluff area more than 10' in elevation above mean
sea level
This proposed addition/expansion of an existing building will be more
than 75' from the landward edge of tidal wetlands/waterfront areas.
This proposed addition/expansion of an existing building will NOT be
more than 75' from the landward edge of tidal wetlands/waterfront
area.
Please be aware that any and all subdivisions and new dwellings will also require an
application to the N.Y.S. Department of Environmental Conservation for their review
and approval. If you are able to provide them with recent photographs of the
project and wetland areas, it would help expedite the processing of your applica-
tion.
This questionnaire is made to explain the requirements of this State Law and to
prevent any unnecessary delays in processing your application(s).
10/831k
~LDEN W. YOUNG
YOUNG ~ YOUNG
400 OgTRANDER ~.VENUE
RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK z~o~
HOWARD W. YOUNG
February 15, 1984
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS
Main Road
Southold, NY ~1971
Gentlemen:
Enclosed are the following:
Four (4) prints of the site plan prepared for CROSS SOUND
FERRY SERVICES, INC. at Orient, Town of Southold, N.Y.
2. Our check in the amount of $50.00 (filing fee)
3. A copy of the application for building permit (notarized)
4. A copy of the notice of disapproval from the Town of
Southold Building Dept.
5. Short Environmental Assessment Form
6. "Wetlands Letter"
7. One (~) "Notice to Adjoining Property Owners" form with
certified receipts attached (notarized)
8. Application in triplicate (notarized)
Very truly yours,
HOWARD W. YOUNG
Incl.
cc: CROSS SOUND FERRY SERVICES, INC. POB 33
New London, CT 06320
Attn: RICHARD MC MURRAY
(~) COUNTY OF SUFFOLK
Properly Tax Service Agenc
R~verhead, L New York
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GR. WA TER
AREA = 3.4 Acrest
ELEVATIONS & CONTOUR LINES ARE REFERENCED TO N.G.V.D.
ZONING D/STRICT MII oo= EXISTb~IG ELEVATION
---.~.--: = EXISTING CONTOUR
PARKING SCHEDULE [] = PROPOSED ELEVATION
RETAIL SALES I s:oace/2OO sq. ft. ~ PROPOSED CONTOUR
~08~_ sq. fl./,~O0 = I0 sptices O0 = DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC FLOtI/
TOTAL PROPOSED PARKING SPACES = 69
PRO/nOSED HAND1C~P SPACES -- $ ~) = LOW DENSITY MUSHROOM - TYPE LIGHT
pARKII~ STALLS TO 8E ~J~ED ~Y BUMPER STOPS
LONG
ISLAND SOUND
KEY' MAP
SCALE' I" = I000'
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PROPOSED CRA VEL PARKING
FiLL NEEDED 3,95 CO, yd$.
MA I taR/AL FROM DRAINS 170 cu.yds.
~" GNA VEL FOR PARKING
LO~T 175 cu.yd$.
-TOTAL FILL NEEDED
50 cu.yd$.
pLANNING BOARD
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
CRA VEL NEEDED FOR DRAINS ~ ~00 cu.yds.
DRAINAGE cRITERIA $. LIC. NO.
P. aRIO,~ AREA -22,000 sq.t/. _~ ~C~ ~ ~S,' P.C
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