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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-11/27/1978P JOHN WICKHAM, Chairman FRANK S. COYLE HENRY E, RAYNOR, Jr. FREDERICK E. GORDON JAMES WALL Southold, N.Y. 11971 TELEPHONE 765 - 1938 A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held on Monday, November 27, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York at 7:30 p.m. Present were: Henry E. Raynor, Jr., Vice-Chairman Frank S. Coyle, Member Frederick E. Gordon, Member Arthur & Millicent Gossner, League of Women Voters Jean Tiedke, League of Women Voters Franklin Bear, North Fork Envirornnental Council Peter Campbell, Suffolk Times Douglas Love, L. I. Traveler-Watchman Absent were: John Wickham (out of town) James Wall (inclement weather) 7:30 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of the approval of the final map of the minor subdivision of property of Margaret V. Braatz located at Cutchogue, New York. Mr. Raynor read the legal not'ice of hearing and presented proofs of publication in the two local papers. Mr. Raynor: There is notification from the Suffolk County Planning Commission with regard to waivering of drainage provisions. We have on file application for approval, legal description and declaration of protective covenants and restrictions. There is notification from the attorney that the subdivision is on an existing highway that is town property and maintained by the town. There will be no submission from the Superintendent of Highways with regard to bonding. As is the Board's custom, we would like to hear from anyone present that has anything to say in opposition to the minor subdivision of Margaret V. Braatz. Mrs. Tiedke: What is the water situation down there now? Mr. Raynor: In the particular area where the subdivision is there is potable water. Mrs. Tiedke: Is there enough? -2- Mr. Raynor: There are only three lots involved and they are over- sized. Ms. Wickham: They have very good water down there. Mrs. Tiedke: I know it is good but it is the quantity I am concerned with. Mr. Raynor: Is the question in regard to this subdivision? There are problems on Nassau Point. Mrs. Tiedke: What will more building lots do to that? Mr. Raynor: In regard to this particular subdivision? The problem exists in old subdivision lots where there are one-sixth and one- quarter acre lots. Mrs. Tiedke: You say the problem exists. What is their source of water? Mr. Raynor: It is the same as the mainland gets,~our to six~inches a year, the same as in the township. This Nassau ~oin ~nly a small version of the Town of Southold. If you turn it around ninety degrees you will see it resembles the town. Ms. Wickham: She has taken one of the tiny Nassau Point lots and eliminated it. Mrs. Tiedke: There must be an end some place and do you know what it is in the terms of water supply? Mr. Raynor: We have the Malcolm Pirnie report. Mrs. Tiedke: In terms of Nassau Point by itself. Mr. Raynor: I don't think there has been one complete eneugh to give you the answer to the question. Mrs. Tiedke: Shouldn't there be one made? Mr. Raynor: At somebody's expense. This is the problem. Are we going to go out and spend $100,000 in public funds for 150 families. Nassau Point is almost totally sold out. The Health Department says one acre is enough property for sewage treatment and water supply. Mrs. Tiedke: That is pretty much a generalization. Are the buyers aware of this problem. Mr. Raynor: I can't answer you. I have no idea of what knowledge the buyer has or if there are any buyers. Is there anyone else that would like to be heard in opposition to this minor subdivision. Is there anyone present that would like to speak in favor. Ms. Wickham: We would like to request that the Plarn~ing Board approve the application in final form tonight if there are no further problems with it. -3- Mr. Coyle: Make sure the size of the lots is taken care of by restrictions. Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone here that has any specific information with regard to the subdivision either for or against which will be of some use to the Board. Hearing none, we will declare the hearing closed. Felix Deerkoski minor subdivision. Mr. Deerkoski met with Mr. Raynor at the office in the afternoon. He will locate the house on the map. He will make the minor subdivision Section i and will sign a provision that there will be no further subdivision unless it comes before the Board. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the minor subdivision of Felix and Peter Deerkoski dated October 17, 1978. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Motion was made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle and carried to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of October 30, 1978. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED to grant approval to the map of the minor subdivision of Dr. Meyer Rosenberg located at Peconic, New York, and authorize the vice-chairman to sign the map. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the final map of the subdivision known as "Horton Farm Estates" located at Cutchogue, New York and owned by Richard E. Young and others, at 8:00 p.m., December 18th, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Rave and Tloczkowski site plan. The Board reviewed Mr. Olsen's letter in which Mr. 01sen expressed the opinion that the Board does not have the right to ask for complete building plans in conjunction with the site plan approval. -4- The following will be necessary for review of the site plan. 1. Loading area shown (100-13lB) 2. Detailed planting schedule, type of trees, height, whether conifers or desiduous trees (100-13lC) 3. Outdoor lighting schedule Public address system, if any 5. Location and plans of any outdoor signs These above elements are for preliminary submission of a site plan. The Board would determine at this time that a supplementary site plan will be necessary at the time of application for a building permit so that the Board may determine conformity of building with the site plan already submitted. Site plan shows what appears to be sidewalks. Please indicate if this is such and what they consist of. Profiles will be necessary indicating grading and cross-sections of widths of roadways (100-134D(5) There is no provision in the plan for drainage in the parking lot, which would be subject to the approval of the Town Engineer and Building Inspector. The above information is to be submitted to Gary Olsen, attorney for the applicant. Zanieski. By letter from the attorney, Marcia Z. Hefter, this is a sale within the family from father to son of an existing house. This is considered a casual sale and it is not necessary that it come before the Planning Board as a minor subdivision. The information is to be given to Ms. Hefter and the building inspector, George Fisher. 8:00 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of the approval of the final map of the subdivision known as "Peconic Bay Cove" located at Peconic and owned by Zaino and Sardelli. Mr. Raynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented proof of publication. The following letter to the Planning Board ~uder date of April 10, 1978 was read. Gentlemen: In reply to the March 27th meeting on drainage for Indian Neck Lane, I suggest the Town acquire some land at this location and construct a recharge basin. I do not believe that basins along this road will take care of the amount of water and silt that flows onto the road. /s/ Raymond C. Dean, Supt. of Highways -5- The following letter to Mr. Raymond C. Dean under date of November 21, 1978 was read. Dear Mr. Dean: On Monday, November 27, 1978, the Southold Town Planning Board will hold a public hearing on the final map of the subdivision known as "Peconic Bay Cove" owned by Zaino and Sardelli and located at Peconic, New York. I have not received the recommendations of Mr. Tuthill on the drainage in this subdivision. At the public hearing on the preliminary map there was comment from the audience about a problem. I received a letter from you about the Town possibly purchasing some property in the area. I would appreciate something in writing for the public hearing. /s/ Muriel Brush, Secretary Copy to Lawrence M. Tuthill Mr. Raynor: As this particular subdivision is situated on highways on two sides, there is no bond estimate. In going through the file, this subdivision received sketch plan approval in April of 1977. The application and fee has been paid to the Town Clerk and the appropriate number of prints have been forwarded. As is the procedure at a public hearing, is there anyone that would like to speak in opposition to the subdivision map of "Peconic Bay Cove"? Hearing none, is there anyone present this evening that would like to speak in favor of the subdivision map of "Peconic Bay Cove"? Rudolph Bruer, Esq.: I am speaking on behalf of the owners. I would like to basically restate all the arguments that were stated to this Board at the earlier hearing and if there is no change I ask that the Board approve the map. Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone else that would like to speak in favor of this subdivision? Hearing none, is there anyone this evening who has any information in regard to this subdivision that they feel the Board should have knowledge of. Mr. Bear: Is the Town buying that land for the drainage? Mr. Raynor: I can't answer that question. You would have to take it up with Mr. Dean. I take it his department has taken the action necessary. At this time, we have no information from him. Mrs. Tiedke: What water does it face on? Mr. Raynor: None. Mrs. Tiedke: Why is it called "Peconic Bay Cove"? Mr. Raynor: You would have to take that up with the applicant. Mrs. Tiedke: Wouldn't you be concerned with that also? -6- Mr. Raynor: There is no provision in any of the ordinances with regard to naming subdivisions. Mrs. Tiedke: You could suggest it. Mr. Raynor: We have sent about thirty changes to the ordinance to the appropriate place. Mrs. Tiedke: Let the buyer beware. Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone else who wishes to be heard. Hearing none, I will declare the hearing closed. Southold Savings Bank site plan. Raymond Terry and Richard Lark, Esq. appeared before the Board. A letter from George Fisher, Building Inspector, which accompanied the site plan was read. Also the report of John W. Davis, inspector, was read. Mr. Terry presented as-built drawings. As far as the site plan goes, they still have to use the southerly exit. The second sheet shows the plantings. Some modifications have been made. The azaleas were changed to yews. The blue spruce were moved to shield the back of the garage. They have written approval from the Supt. of Highways for the curb cut. It was determined that they still need the lighting schedule. Thornton Smithcluster development. Mr. Smith appeared along with his attorney, Richard Lark. Two proposals for a cluster concept subdivision were reviewed. Mr. Smith has offered this for farmland acquisition and was turned down presumably because of the small size of the property and the adjoining farmers had not offered their property. The Board will make a field survey of the property. Regens Internation (Eric Schmitt). William B. Smith appeared before the Board in regard to this possible subdivision of property. At least half the property is filled land. There is Village water but no Village sewage. It will be necessary to have contours placed on the property and the Board will make a physical inspection of the property. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the maps of the minor subdivisions of Peter Kreh~ Jr. and C. Edmonds Allen located at Mattituck, New York, at 8:30 p.m., Monday, December 18, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon -7- Vineyard Estates. This matter was tabled until the next meeting that Mr. Wickham can state his opinion on the roads. so On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was RESOLVED to grant approval to the sketch map dated October 27, 1978 for the subdivision known as "Bayview Woods Corporation" located at Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon There were several people in the audience in answer to a letter in the Suffolk Times from Richard Winters questioning the proposed apartment complex on Youngs Avenue, Southold. Mr. Raynor explained that it was a change of zone granted by the Town Board about six years ago in answer to a question regarding the subversion of the one-acre zoning in the ordinance. There were many other questions regard£ng HUD funding and regulations regarding same which could not be answered by the Planning Board members present. Mr. Raynor suggested that if the people present had any suggestions about the complex, they should write letters to the Town Board and the Planning Board. On motion made by Mr. Gordon, seconded by Mr. Coyle, it was RESOLVED to hold a public hearing on the map of the minor subdivision of property of Lawrence and Martha Stojan located at Cutchogue, New York, at 7:30 p.m., Monday, December 18, 1978 at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon Reese application to Dept. of Environmental Conservation for permission to dredge channel at development "Southold Shores". This matter falls under the New York State and Southold Town Environmental Quality Review Act. The Planning Board has accepted lead agency in the matter, i, The secretary was directed to send Mr. Reese an Environmental Assessment Form to complete and return to the Board. A request is also to be made to the Town Trustees and the Conservation Advisory Council for imput. On motion made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon, it was ~ESOLVED to grant approval to the map of the minor subdivision of Margaret V. Braatz, said map dated July 27, 1978. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Coyle, Gordon -8- Motion was made by Mr. Coyle, seconded by Mr. Gordon and carried to adjourn the meeting. Meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m. The next meeting of the Planning Board will be held December 18, 1978. Respectfully submitted, Muriel Brush~/Secretary Henry E. R~ynor, ~r., yice-Ch~airman