HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/06/1975Southold Town Planmng Board
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971
TELEPHONE 765-1313
PLANNING BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Molsa
Alfred Grebe
Henry Raynor
Frank Coyle
October 6~ 1975
MINUTES
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board
was held October 6, 1975 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town
Clerk's Office, Main Road, Southold.
Present were Chairman John Wickham, Vice-Chairman Henry
Moisa, members Henry Raynor and Alfred Grebe. Also present
were Joseph Campbell, Suffolk Weekly Times; Millicent
Gossner, League of Women Voters.
7:30 p.m. Public Hearing on final map of "Highland Estates".
Mr. Raynor read the Notice of Hearing.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of
the Town Law, public hearings will be held by the Southold
Town Planning Board at the Town Clerk's Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, in said town on the 6th day of October,
1975 on the question of the following:
7:30 p.m. Approval of the final map of property owned
by 75 Highland Road Corporation known as "Highland Estates"
consisting of a parcel of land situate, lying and being at
Cutchogue in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk aud
State of New York, bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a point formed by the intersection of the
northwesterly line of Main Road, N.Y.S. Rte. 25, with the
northeasterly line of the land of J. Faszewski and running
thence from said point of beginning northwesterly, southwesterly,
again northwesterly and again southwesterly along the land of
J. Faszewski the following courses and distances: (1) N. 47°
37' 30" W. 273.92 feet; (2) S. 57° 58' 40" W. 35.00 feet;
(3) N. 45° 27' 50" W. 151.16 feet; (4) S. 57° 58' 40" W. 57.00
feet to the land of R. Asselta; thence northwesterly along the
lands of R. Asselta and of Lefferts P. Edson the followin~
courses and distances: (1) N. 46° 51' 30" W. 18.94 feet; (2)
N. 45° 15' 50" W. 400.34 feet; (3) N. 48° 45' 50" W. 1398.68
feet; (4) S. 38° 59' 00" W. 436.30 feet to the land of Paul
Kaloski; thence northwesterly along the lands of Paul Kaloski
and of Alvah Farm Company the following courses and distances:
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(1) N. 49° 00' 30" W. 439.27 feet; (2) N. 46° 41' 37" W. 359.36
feet; (3) N. 47° 57' 17" W. 394.92 feet to the land of Long
Islaud Vineyards, Inc.; thence northeasterly along the land of
Long Island Vineyards, Inc. the following course and distance:
(1) N. 37° 57' 03" E. 834.24 feet to the land of Roman Catholic
Church of the Sacred Heart of Cutchogue; thence southeasterly
along the land of Roman Catholic Church of the Sacred Heart of
Cutchogue the following courses and distances: (1) S. 49° 37'
25" E. 3,078.43 feet; ~2) S. 49° 51' 35" E. 236.56 feet to the
land of the Presbyterian Church; thence southwesterly and south-
easterly along the land of the Presbyterian Church the follow-
in courses and distances: (1) S. 44° 56' 10" W. 109.13 feet;
(2~ S. 44° 39' 10" E. 255.78 feet to the northwesterly line of
the Main Road, N.Y.S. Rte. 25, thence southwesterly along the
northwesterly line of the said Main Road the following courses
and distances: (1) S. 52° ll' 50" W. 156.06 feet; (2) S. 57o
58' 40" W. 140.95 feet to the point or place of beginning.
Containing 46.450 acres, more or less.
Any person desiring to be heard on the above matters
should appear at the time and place above specified.
Dated: September 24, 1975 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN
PLANNING BOARD
JOHN WICKHAM, CHAIRMAN
Proof of publication was presented from the Suffolk Weekly Times.
Mr. Wickham: There is approval of Environmental Control and
the Board of Health. For the record, we have four pages of
protective covenants and restrictions which the Planning Board
will go into more carefully. Item ll in these covenants says
the premises designated as 75 Highland Road Corporation located
on the southeasterly portion of the aforesaid map and more
particularly described as follows:
BEGINNING at a point on the northerly line of
Main Road (N.Y.S. Rte. 25) at the southwesterly
corner of land of the Presbyterian Church
running thence along the northerly line of Main
Road, S. 52° ll' 50" W. 21.06 feet; thence
running generally northerly along other land
of the Declarant that is proposed to be laid
out as a road known as "Highland Road" four
courses and distances as follows: (1) along
the arc of a curve bearing to the right having
a radius of 25.00 feet a distance of 39.27 feet;
(2) N. 37° 48' 10" W. 40 feet; (3) along the
arc of a curve bearing to the left having a
radius of 463.60 feet a distance of 157.04
feet and; (4) N. 57° 12' 40" W. 18.99 feet to
the southeasterly corner of lot 39 on the
"Map of Highland Estates at Cutchogue, Town
of Southold, Suffolk County, N. Y."; thence
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running easterly along lot 39 S. 32° 47' 20" W.
51.12 feet to land of the Presbyterian Church;
thence along land of the Presbyterian Church
S. 44° 39' 10" E. 255.78 feet to the point or
place of beginning;
shall be held as open space and no buildings or structures of
any type shall be erected in said premises, nor shall it be
used as a dumping ground for rubbish. Declarant reserves the
right to transfer title to these premises to the Presbyterian
Church for use as a parking area.
Mr. Wickham: We have a letter from the Superintendent of
Highways under date of January 27, 1975.
Gentlemen:
A meeting to review several subdivisions was held at the
office of Superintendent Raymond C. Dean, Peconic Lane,
Peconic at 10:00 a.m. on January 23, 1975. Present were
Superintendent Dean, Justices Louis Demarest and Martin Surer
of the Highway Committee and Mr. L. Tuthill, P.E.
It was requested by all that the two cul-de-sacs be
eliminated and the road loop around and return to the adjacent
subdivision.
/s/ Raymond C. Dean
Supt. of Highways
The following memorandum under date of March 3, 1975 was read:
To: Planning Board, Southold Town, Southold, N. Y.
Meeting at Mr. Dean's office at 2:00 p.m. February 28, 1975
Re: Highland Estates
Present: Southold Town - Mr. Dean, Planning Board Mr.
Wickham, Chairman, Henry Raynor and L. Tuthill
Highland Estates - Mr. Piscitello, Richard Lark,
Engineers both Alden and Howard Young
Discussion on the use of cul-de-sac on north part of property.
General agreement of Southold Town representatives that one
cul-de-sac and 6 lots would be acceptable. Mr. Piscitello
still requirest 2 cul-de-sacs and 7 lots, but would discuss
with his partner the other alternative.
It was agreed that the survey with reference to contours
would be acceptable for the study of drainage and bond.
It was stated that a final hearing would be held.
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The following letter under date of May 5, 1975 from the Suffolk
County Department of Planning was read:
Dear Mr. Wickham:
In accordance with your request the staff of the Depart-
ment has considered the above-captioned preliminary map and
offer the following comments for your consideration.
1. With the exception of the cross street, Spur Road, the
layout is considered to be satisfactory. In order to eliminate
any future traffic safety problems when adjacent properties
tie in to Spur Drive, it is suggested that the east leg of Spur
Drive be moved two lots north or south, preferably the latter.
2. It would appear that Crown Land Lane is an extension of
a proposed road on the adjacent tract. We do not have a record
of either a proposed or existing subdivision adjacent to this
preliminary map. Does a map exist for this adjacent tract or
is one being presently considered? How will this affect this
subdivision?
3. A bank exists along Main Road. How is this bank to be
treated to insure proper sight distance and access to the State
Road from the proposed subdivision to insure the operating
efficiency of the state road.
4. Vehicular access to Lot one to be restricted to High-
land Road; if possible.
Staff comments on a preliminary map do not constitute a
review. When this map is in the final stage of preparation,
it should be referred to the Suffolk County Planning Commission
for review pursuant to Section 1333 of the Suffolk County
Charter.
/s/ Charles G. Lind
Subdivision Review Section
Mr. Raynor: It should be noted from the unsigned letter of
Mr. Dean that the map reflects the feelings at that meeting.
Everyone was in accord.
Mr. Wickham: Everything seems to be in order with those
reservations. At this time, I will open the hearing for
general discussion and ask for anyone that wishes to be heard
in opposition to this subdivision. Hearing none, I will ask
for those that wish to be heard in favor of it.
Mr. Richard Lark: I am an attorney and represent the appli-
cant. As Mr. Raynor suggested earlier, I believe the map is
in accordance with what has been worked out and there are no
substantial changes from the preliminary map approved last
March. Other than needing three more copies of the map for
the County, I would request that the Board approve the map
for filing.
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Mr. Wickham: I think the lack of signature is simply an
oversight because it is an agreement reached between all con-
cerned. I also feel that the Town Planning Board in informal
discussion at least has felt that some of the matters brought
up by the County Planning Commission were not legitimate
problems. We had good reason for doing what we did.
Alden Young: Item 3 will have to be taken care of when we
apply for the curb cut. Before you do any construction that
will be taken taken care of at that time.
Mr. Wickham: Normally we suggest that you have your permit
from the State Highway Department as well at the time of the
hearing but this poses no real problem as far as we know.
If there is nothing else to be brought before the hearing, I
will declare it closed and the Planning Board wants to go over
the covenants and restrictions rather carefully and work any
problems out with the respective attorneys.
Mr. Lark: Also submitted is the engineer's proposal as to
what the road construction would be for the Planning Board's
recommendation for the Town Board.
Mr. Wickham: ¥md~nnderstand that the permit for the connection
to the State Highway can be a problem and normally we have asked
people to apply for the permit so we know what is involved.
I don't know why we overlooked this one. It is one of the
things you will have to do. We will probably withhold signing
the map until this problem is worked out. There is quite a
difference in grade here.
Mr. Piscatelli thanked the Board for their consideration and
time.
Barbara Howard. Minor subdivision on Soundview Avenue.
Mr. Moisa asked if the driveway was already there and Mrs.
Howard said it was. Mr. Raynor asked about the topography
and Mr. Howard said it was not hilly, and there are woods to
the east. Mr. Wickham said the Planning Board would look at
the property but he sees no problem with the proposal.
DeVoe subdivision. "Beaujolais Acres~.
Mr. Wickham decided to discuss the subdivision before the
hearing. Mr. Stankevich made the following comments. The
open space will be permanently restricted for agriculture.
There are no roads necessary because all the lots are fronting
on an existing street. The pitch is north to south so catch
basins will not be needed along the road. LILCO will service
with overhead service. If a house were to be located in the
very rear of a lot, the lot owner would be charged for each
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additional pole. Health Department approval has been
accepted regarding private individual wells and cesspools.
Lots 7 and 8 only have an elevation of six or seven feet
and there may be a requirement of some fill around shallow
~e~ls and a grading plan must be submitted withtthe final
plot. The thought is to let each lot owner deal with the
problem.
Mr. Wickham: We have some regulations as to what percent of
the lot has to be filled if it has to be filled. It can't be
sticking up as a mound.
Mr. Stankevich: That is acceptable. There is one house where
the DeVoes are now living. The son wishes to construct the
second house on lot number one.
Mr. Wickham: How gar is this property from salt water?
Mr. Stankevich: It is more than 500 feet. It is covenanted
for agriculture and a shed or barn if they are needed. The
front is left to zoning basically for restriction.
DeVoe. "Beaujolais Acres" Public Hearing on preliminary map.
Present: Mr. George Stankevich, Attorney for the developer,
Mrs. DeVoe and her daughter-in-law.
Mr. Raynor read the Notice of Hearing.
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 276 of
the Town Law, public hearings will be held by the Southold
Town Planning Board at the Town Clerk's Office, Main Road,
Southold, New York, in said town on the 6th day of October,
1975 on the question of the following:
8:15 p.m. Approval of the preliminary map of property
owned by Charles DeVoe known as "Beaujolais Acres" consisting
of a parcel of land situate, lying and being at Orient in the
Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York,
bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a monument on the southwesterly side of
Orchard Street distant 617.73 feet northwesterly, when measured
along the southwesterly side of Orchard Street, from the corner
formed by the intersection of the southwesterly side of Orchard
Street with the northerly side of King Street, said point of
beginning also being where the division line between the
premises herein described and laud now or formerly of J. Witzen-
burg intersects the southwesterly side of Orchard Street;
running thence S. 70° 13' 50" W. along said last mentioned
division line 692.77 feet to a monument and laud now or formerly
of Vilna Estates, Inc.; thence along said last mentioned land
the following two courses and distances: (1) N. 29° 55' 10" W.
546.97 feet to a monument; (2) N. 64° 09' 10" W. 241.47 feet to
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a monument and land now or formerly of T. Rohloff; thence N.
56' 30" E. along said last mentioned land 431.16 feet to a
monument and the southwesterly side of Orchard Street; thence
along the southwesterly side of Orchard Street the following
two courses and distances: (1) S. 65° 40' 40" E. 570.31 feet
to a point; (2) S. 41° 51' 10" E. 680.91 feet to the monument
at the point or place of BEGINNING. Containing 12.471 acres,
more or less.
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Any person desiring to be heard on the above matters
should appear at the time and place above specified.
Dated: September 24, 1975 BY ORDER OF THE SOUTHOLD TOWN
PLANNING BOARD
JOHNWICKHAM, CHAIRMAN
Proof of publication was presented from the Suffolk Weekly
Times.
The following letter was presented from the Southold Town
Highway Department under date of September 5, 1975.
Gentlemen:
I have inspected the map and approve the lay-out of the
BEAUJOLAIS ACRES subdivision located at Orchard Street, Orient,
New York.
/s/ Raymond C. Dean
Supt. of Highways
Mr. Wickham: We have disQussed this several times and counsel
has provided some additional information. At this time, I
will ask for anyone that wishes to be heard in opposition to
this subdivision. Hearing none, I will ask for those that
wish to be heard in favor of it.
Mr. Stankevich: I am here in favor of the plan. I am the
attorney for the owners. This is Mrs. DeVoe and one of their
daughters-in-law. The owners are not asking for maximum
yield. Their interest is to preserve a large portion permanently
and they are willing to so covenant and they are hoping for a
tax abatement.
Mr. Wickham: I would like to state that the Planning Board
has looked very favorably on this from the first because this
is what we want to do. We want to keep lowest possible density
and keep land for agricultural use if possible. If there is
nothing else, I will declare the hearing closed and we will
look over these covenants and restrictions.
The Board read the following letter from Mrs. Rode Hale regarding
a division of the George Edwards Estate in Orient.
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Dear Mr. Wickham and members of the Planning Board:
On November 18, 1974, I appeared before you to discuss
informally the division of property between my cousin, Barbara
P. Hughes, and myself, that property having been left to us by
our grandfather, George L. Edwards, and each of us having an
undivided half interest in the property.
When I met with you, we discussed many things including
where houses could be built, location of an east-west ~o~d,
and subsequent possible division of each portion into a minor
subdivision.
You advised Mrs. Hughes and I to obtain our legal division,
then each of us could come back and formally apply for minor
subdivision of our portions of land, if and when we should
want to.
We have now arrived at our legal division, maps made, and
deeds drawn up. Before signing said deeds, my cousin aud I
would like an assurance from you that the west piece of property
will ultimately be able to be subdivided as a minor subdivision
with four lots or less; and that the east piece of property will
also be able to be divided into a minor subdivision of four lots
or less, at some time in the future and of course, after our
legal division is finalized.
My cousin and I thank you for your kind consideration.
/s/ Phyllis E. Hale
It was the consensus of the Planning Board that this division
between Mrs. Hale and Mrs. Hughes is reasonable and each
property can be made into a minor subdivision depending on
the town's minimum requirements at the time the subdivision is
presented. At the present time, the rules and regulations for
the subdivision of land in the Town of Southold define a minor
subdivision as a division of property into four or less lots.
On motion made by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED to authorize the Chairman to sign the map of
the subdivision known as "Greenfields at Southold."
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Raynor, Grebe, Moisa.
Tut's Acres.
Mr. Wickham read over the filed covenants and restrictions and
signed the map of this minor subdivision.
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The following letter to the Tow~ Board, a copy of which was
sent to the Planning Board, under date of July 24, 1975, was
read.
Dear Sirs:
We have been retained by Mr. Valentine Ruch for the expressed
purpose, at this time, to secure a release of a subdivision bond
held to your benefit in the form of Certificate of Deposit
issued by the North Fork Bank and Trust Company, Mattituck, New
York.
Our examination of all documents in connection with this
subdivision, including consultations with responsible engineers,
indicates that at the time a release of the above described
subdivision bond should be immediately made by the Town Board
of the Town of Southold. To the best of our information and
knowledge the developer has fully complied with all of the rules,
regulations and requirements in connection with the installation
of the roads in the subdivision as they were in force and effect
at the time of such installation.
In the light of the foregoing, we would request an
immediate response to the release of the foregoing subdivision
bond.
/s/ Richard J. Cron
The Planning Board concurred that this was a Town Highway
Department and Town Board matter.
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED to approve the map of the minor subdivision of
Erroll W. Doebler at Southold subject to the recommendations
of the Suffolk County Planning Commission regarding setback
requirements from the bank.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Moisa, Raynor, Grebe.
Vardy minor subdivision. Rudy Bruer, Esq. appeared.
Mr. Wickham told Mr. Bruer to get topos for this property
as it seems to show a great deal of meadowland. Mr. Wickham
said the rules and regulations clearly state that there has
to be 40,000 square feet of buildable land for each lot and
this should probably be two lots rather than three. These
people are contract vendees from Callahan. Mr. Bruer only
had one copy of the map but will present the required number
in the near future.
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San Simeon. St. Peter's Lutheran Church retirement project.
Mr. Koch and an associate appeared, an unidentified minister
and a lady.
The LILC0 piece on the site plan was mentioned and Mr. Koch
said St. Peter's was trying to buy it because LILCO doesn't
need it and it is up for sale.
They now have 40 acres which includes 10 acres of the
Drive-In property. If they transfer part of the l0 acre site
and a piece of the church site into the 26 acre site it would
give them 30.1274 acres. Asked what the zoning was on the
outdoor theatre site, they replied business. Mr. Raynor said
the computations will have to exclude the "A" zone which is
where the church is.
Mr. Wickham said they can't put the right-of-way in an "A"
zone. The access can't be used for a higher use.
Mr. Koch said the "Inn" is for people who can't take care of
'themselves. Mr. Raynor asked if there would be enclosed,
heated corridors and Mr. Koch said they would be. Mr. Raynor
said an interpretation would have to be given by the Building
Inspector because no building can be in excess of 125 feet in
length. He thought if it was measured with intercomaecting
corridors it would have to go to the Board of Appeals. It was
agreed that there was no sense in having it if it wasn't enclosed.
Mr. Koch said the whole first level is the same so the people
can have easy access. He said in talking to Mr. Terry, the
Building Inspector, it is within the 125 feet. Mr. Wickham
said he would like to talk to the Town Attorney as well for the
question of interpretation.
Mr. Raynor said the present orientation would have a problem
complying with the section of the ordinance that states that
the distance between the buildings has to be twice the height
elevations. The buildings would have to be reorientated
depending on the vertical elevations. Mr. Koch said that these
are low one-story buildings and he believes they comply in all
cases. The buildings are linked together with a shed. Mr.
Wickham said that they are over 125 feet because the Planning
Board measures diagonally.
When asked how many units there are altogether, Mr. Koch
answered that on this site plan there are 246 units.
Mr. Koch admitted that they were under on the parking. He
said because it was senior citizen housing he did not feel that
people would be driving. He said the age would be 65 and up.
Mr.Raynor asked if they would file that as a restrictive
covenant with the property. Mr. Koch said the units are not
designed for a young family. Mr. Raynor asked if they are
dealing with primarily an older group of people, he was wonder-
ing about the access of bringing in supplies if the parking
area is so far from some of the units. He thought it would
be a long way to carry groceries. Mr. Koch said that rather
than
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than clutter the site up with roads, they decided to let them
walk on pathways back and forth. He said the roads could be
reworked to get them closer. Mr. Raynor said if they were
thinking of walkways the drawing should show that.
The possible widening of County Route 27 does not show on
the site plan. This was one of the stipulations of the County
Planning Commission when it gave its recommendations on the
change of zone.
Mr. Wickham said a buffer strip is usually required between an
"A" and "B" zone. The Planning Board requires a buffer strip
as well as a setback. It should be some reasonable amount for
good taste. Mr. Koch said this is a watershed area for the
Village of Greenport. He felt by going 35 feet they could
spread out and give an overall appearance of alot more open
space. If they pull back more they would start encroaching
again.
Mr. Raynor asked if they had a preliminary planting schedule
for landscaping and so forth. Mr. Koch said they were working
on it but didn't have it done yet.
Mr. Raynor asked if there was a possibility of eventual access
to the easterly side of the property even though it is presently
a watershed. Mr. Koch said it would be very difficult to have
a highway coming through that way. Mr. Raynor said the Planning
Board would probably want something in the line of an access
and more parking will have to be picked up somewhere.
Mr. Raynor asked what, if anything, is planned for an accessory
use for the remaining "B" zone. Mr. Koch said a future church
was planned for where the drive-in is and an eating facility
for the site by Pell's.
Mr. Raynor asked what was "motel building and parking". Mr.
Koch said this is the administration building and there will
be rooms, motel-style, for visitors of these people. Mr.
Raynor asked if this would be a restricted use. Mr. Koch said
he would assume it would be. The main reason is for someone
having their relatives come out to visit so they could stay
here instead of taking up a space in the other area. Mr. Raynor
said he didn't know if this is the location for a public motel.
Mr. Koch said it is not a public motel, it is a one-room
living quarter. They call it a motel-type but it is not a
public motel. Mr. Raynor said he thought the Planning Board
would ask for that in the restrictions.
Mr. Grebe asked if the property would be fenced and Mr. Koch
said there would be shrubbery and trees. Mr. Wickham said he
thought for safety reasons it should be fenced by the water-
shed and Mr. Koch said if the Planning Board wanted it fenced,
it would be. Mr. Wickham said if they are going to have older
ambulatory people, they could stray off and get lost in that
area. Mr. Koch said he would prefer to shrub it heavily. Mr.
Wickham said he just wanted to be sure no one could get through.
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Mr. Koch said we are talking about relocation of the access
road, whether or not it is a legal type structure and a buffer
zone. Mr. Raynor said they would also have to comply with the
parking regulations ~less they get a special waiver which is
not under the jurisdiction of the Planning Board.
There was discussion about checking with the Soil Conservation
District. Mr. Koch said they would do that. Mr. Raynor took
a set of plans and Mr. Koch will send two more complete sets to
the office.
Mr. Grebe requested that the secretary check the back minutes
regarding the right-of-way for the Duff property purchased
from Mr. Walsh.
The following letter under date of October 6, 1975 regarding
the subdivision known as "Greton" was read.
Gentlemen:
I have reviewed the new profiles revised September 12,
1975 for use with roads with curbs and see no objections to
these grades as shown.
It is recommended that a recharge basin type "A" be
required. If this type basin is recommended the fence and
basin should be completed before final grading.
/s/ Raymond C. Dean
Supt. of Highways
On motion made by Mr. Raynor, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED to grant approval of the preliminary map of
subdivision known as "Greton" located at Mattituck, New York,
together with revised profiles dated September 12, 1975.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Moisa, Grebe, Raynor.
Macari. Gary Olsen, Esq. appeared.
Mr. Raynor made the following comments. He would like to see
a consolidation of the park and recreation area into one
piece preferably fronting on the lake. He would like to see
the extinguishment of the right-of-way. He would like to see
the layout of the property to the east with the thought in
mind of possibly moving the road around. Mr. Olsen said every
effort would be made to eliminate the right-of-way. Both
accesses are poor and Mr. Raynor suggested that an expert
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opinion be obtained as to how this should be handled.
Laurelwood Estates, Section 2. Mr. Olsen appeared.
Mr. ~would~' ~ prefer not to put the park and playground in
the best wooded area. It would mean going back to the original
concept basically. Larry Tuthill said he didn't believe in
valley gutters and thought a recharge should be put in or
an invert system. Mr. 01sen will ask the engineer what the
alternatives are.
Babcock & Rimmler. Gary Olsen appeared.
There was some more discussion about the recharge basin or
alternatives for drainage. Mr. 01sen presented copies of
previous correspondence with the Calves Neck developers,
copies of which are in the Calves Neck subdivision file.
On motion made by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Grebe, it was
RESOLVED to reaffirm action approving the subdivision
known as "August Acres" for the following reasons.
1. All ponds in this subdivision are manmade.
2. The Xerwin Boulevard - Bayshore Road intersection was
resolved after review of many alternatives.
3. The larger radius was not considered of importance
due to the general character of the vicinity and the fact
that road endings are a short distance away.
4. The inconvenience and proper development of the entire
area caused by a superblock far outweighed the advantage of
eliminating Wells Lane.
5. The reference to the site distance at the Bayshore
Road - August Lane will be sent to the Southold Town Highway
Department for implimentation.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Moisa, Grebe, Raynor.
August Acres.
The following recommendations were made by Lawrence M.
Tuthill, P. E., in memorandums to Raymond C. Dean, Supt. of
Highways.
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Planning Board
1. I see no objection to the use of bet~ium blocks for
use in the curbs as shown on the sketches.
2. The elimination of the recharge basins is against the
general policy of the town in its attempt to keep the ground
water level as high as possible in case of droughts.
3. In general the changes in grade for the above-named
subdivision are increasing the amount of cut and are not in
accord with the normal accepted grades of balancing the cut
and fill as required by Southold Town.
4. It is ~ecommended that these changes (#3) be deemed
not acceptable.
The Planning Board will not accept the change of grade but
it will accept belgium blocks if they equal or exceed the
specifications for curbs and gutters.
Ben Mendozza - Quail Run Estates.
On motion made by Mr. Moisa, seconded by Mr. Raynor, it was
RESOLVED that the developer of Quail Run Estates meet
the following minimum requirements in the development of this
property.
1. Sufficient area be allocated for the park and play-
ground, said park and playground to be consolidated in one
area.
2. Cuts and fills on the profiles for the roads be
balanced.
3. Recharge basin be excavated and fenced. Water to
be piped back to the recharge basin if necessary.
Tap road be provided.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Wickham, Moisa, Grebe, Raynor.
Col. Ted Dowd.
Discussion on the necessity of a recharge basin was
discussed. A communication is to be requested from the
Superintendent of Highways as to what his requirements are.
The following preliminary budget was submitted to the
Town Clerk.
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Postage, stationary & Printing
Advertising for legals
Telephone
Transportation (F. I. member)
Car expense @ 12¢ a mile
Association of Towns meeting
Secretary
Members remuneration
Office equipment
$ 750.00
2,000.00
400.00
1,300.00
250.00
650.00
CSEA
CSEA
500.00
Estimated revenues
15,000.00
Mr. Wickham said he approved the budget as submitted with the
notation that the estimated revenue should only include the
application fees in view of the fact that we neither receive
nor disbuse moneys for inspection fees and inspection.
Motion was made by Mr.
and carried to adjourn the
ll:05 p.m.
Grebe, seconded by Mr. Raynor
meeting. Meeting was adjourned at
Respectfully submitted,
Muriel Brush, Secretary
Henry ~oisa, Vice-Chairm~u