HomeMy WebLinkAboutZBA-08/09/1973Southoltl Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. !., N.Y. 119'71
Telephone 765-c'6'60
APPEAL BOARD
MEMBER
Robert ~(/. Gil[ispie~ Jr., Ch~irm~n
Robert Bergen
Charles {~rigonis~ Jr.
Serge Doyen~ Jr.
Fred Hulse, Jr.
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
A~gust 9, 1973
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of ~peals
was held at 7830 P.M., Thursday, August 9, 1973, at the Town
Office, Nain Read, Southeld, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.,
Chairmanl Robert Bergen~ Charles GrzoonZs, Jr.l Fred Hulse,
Jr.
Also present8 N~. Howard Terry, Building Inspector.
Absent: Nr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
There was a discussion of Appeal No. 1799, George Ahlers
and Barry Hellman. The Board decided to postpone the reading
of the decision until after the scheduled Appesls had been
heard.
PUBLIC 5~ARING: Appeal No. 1813 - 7,45 P.M. (E.S.T.),
upon application of Richard and Shirley Clark, 306 Sixth
Street, Greenport, New York, for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 304, for
permission to construct dwelling with less than average set-
b~ck. Location of property: east side Rocky Point Road, south
side Aquaview Avenue; east by Rocky Point Road~ south by land
of Farmakidis and 18~d of ~lardikos~ west by Brown. Fee paid
$15.oo.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the applicant.
NR. HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector: There is a dis-
crepancy in the location of the lot accordi~ to the legal
notice,
On motion by N~ Gillispie, seconded by ~ro Grigonis, it
was RESOLVED that the corrected description of the property
should ready'bounded on the west by Rocky Point Road", Vote
of the Board: Ayes~- ~essrs~ Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse, Grigonis.
THE CHAI~AN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
M~, RICHARD CLARK~ If the setback is 35 feet or more
there will be trouble with drainage. The foundation will
require extra fill. I am concerned about drainage in the
cellar, If we faced the house towards Rocky Point Road, we
would be in a worse place,
THE CHAIRMAN: Even 25 feet would be difficult. Because
you have a corner lot, you have two front yards here.
M~. ROBERT BERGEN: His g~age will be on the corner of
the foundation. I don't like the idea of backing out on to
the highway.
THE CHAIPJ~AN: Cam you construct the driveway so that y,u
don't back out on te Aqua View Avenue?
MR. CLARK: The driveway would have to be put en an extreme
angle or slant, Otherwise, I will have to bri~ in a lot of
fill, The driveway will be two car widths wide.
TP~ CHAIRNAN: You would need l0 or 15 feet more on the
high side Or the low side so you would have enoch room to
turn around ~itheut backing right out. This is a precautionary
measure of the Board.
MR, CLARK: That land is o~e continuous slope. You could
dig a little out of the high side and put it en the low side.
The only way I coul~ de it woul~ be to put it on the low side.
MR. HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector~ Quite a bit of fill
will come out ef the high side, and there will be quite a bit
mere when you dig your cesspools.
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THE CHAIR~N: You won't need the extra l0 feet for the
whole length of the driveway.
THE CHAIRNAN: Is there ~nyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection The Board finds that
applicant requests permission te construct dwelling with less
than average setback on the east side of Reeky Point Road,
East Marion, New York. The findings of the Beard are that
applicant has a severe hardship caused by a~nusually
area on this lot. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties er unnecessary hardship~
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use districts and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
0n motion by ~. Gillispie, seconded by Nr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED, Richard and Shirley Clark, 306 Sixth Street,
Greenport, New York, be GRANTED pez~mission te construct dwelling
with less than average setback en the east side of Rocky Point
Road, East Narion, New York, as applied for, subject te the
following conditions:
That dwelling be constructed no closer than 50 feet
to Aqua View Avenue, and no closer than 25 feet to
Rocky Point Read.
That applicant shall furnish a~ area exiting from his
garage of at least 30 feet to provide room for t~rning
his car ~ud to avoid b~ckir~g out on to Aqua View Avenue.
3. That this permission is subject to the approval ef
the Bmilding Inspector.
Vote of the Beard~ Ayes:- Nessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigenis.
PUBLIC HEARiNG~ Appeal No. 1816 - 8:00 P.M. (E.S.T.), upon
application of Patricia Hecker, lll6 Main Street, Greenport, New
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York, for a variance in accordance withthe Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 301 and the Bulk Schedule for permission
tc convert existing garage and storage to dwelling~ building
has insufficient side and rear yards for dwelling. Location
ef property: west side Stars Road, East Narion, bounded north
by stars Road West~ east by Stars Road; south by Philip
Frumenti~ west by Balders, Weiss and others, Fee paid $15.0~.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, ~ffidavits attesting
to its publication in the efficial newspapers, and notice te
the applic~ut.
THE C~AIRMAN~ The application is accompanied by a Van
Tuyl survey indicating the location of this building on the
lot which is 240 feet long on Stars Road by 105 feet in depth.
It is a corner lot,
THE CHAIRNAN: Is there anyone present who wishes tc speak
for this application?
STANLEY CORWIN, ESQ.~ I would like te address myself te
the application. I am counsel for a firm that represents
the applicant as contract vendee. The use of the property
has been proscribed by existing conditions although the
Assessor assessed it as a residential piece of property. The
building can't be used for that purpose a¢cordir~ te the
Building Inspector. If it is a residence, of course you can't
build another one on this property. There is the element of
self-imposed hardship to a degree, and there are other factors.
I wou~d lik? to call your attention to the let on which
this building exists, and the adjacent lot owned by Philip
Frumenti~ He originally put this building in as an accessory
buildim~. At the time this was going on he was the owner of
property immediately to the south, which he sold te his son.
There really~ is not any reamS, need here for the application
except for the artificial lines that were drawn for front and
back and rear. There is nc problem of access for police,
ambulance, or firemen. Thi~ building takes up about one-fiftieth
ef the lot, which is more than 20,000 sq. ft. It's a small
buildinE and not intended tc be used for all year round living.
According to strict application ef the Ordinance, the Building
Inspector had no alternative but I think this Board should grant
the application,
THE CHAI~!AN: Is this not the same application that was
presented here a few months ago (Elizabeth Allen and Jane
Chambers), where the owners were living in it, The Board
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denied that application, Appeal No. 1736, because it was in
violation of the Ordin~uce in all respects. It would be
diffic~ultfer me to see how this application differs in its
relationship~ whether it's the original applicant er the
present applicant.
NR~ CORWIN~ On occasion this Board has granted~ applications
to build close to the line. There is the Levinson property on
the Sound.
THE CHAIR~d~: That particular situation did not come
before this Board. It did net have to, beinga let in si~le
and separate ownership prior to the passage of the Ordinance,
~. CORWIN: There are other instances, of course, involving
these artificial front and rear lines.
THE CHAIRMAN: I believe this is a self imposed hardship
without, as I understand it, a Certificate of Occupancy. It
has no building permit. I would have to be against the granting
of this vari~uce for those reasons. The same reasons apply
as applied to the previous application. What isthe size of
the building?
~. CORWIN: 20t x 24'.
THE CHAIR~N: That is undersized.
MR. CORWIN: If the Board wemld make some sort of limita-
tion. e. no ~e wants to use it for au all year remud residence.
It's like camping cut in the summer time, yo~ can if you wamt
THE CHAL~¥~N: In our situation, we cannot enable s~yone
to put up a temporarY building and liv® in it for seasonal use.
THE CHAIrmAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRN~: Is there a~one present who wishes to speak
against this application.
NR. PHILIP FRU~NTi: I am the neighbor to the south. I
am against it for many reasons, a lot of them personal. Any-
time I have done ~uything on .my property I have asked whether
I could de it or not. I do not do ~hing unless it is approve~.
I wanted a garage in the front ofmy property. I was told I
could not have it se I built it in the back ef my property. I
use it for storage. I feel that if I have te go along with the
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law, so does everyone else.
~. CORWIN~ We agree that everyone has to go along with
the le~w but we are appealing to the variance board to exercise
its discretion. We are prohibited from doing ~uything.
NRS. FR~ENTI~ It also causes depreciation of our
property and it really is an eyesore. It's right on top of
us, three feet to the line.
THE CHAI~N: How close is your garage to the line?
How far apart are the two buildings?
MS. FRU~NTI: Six or eight feet.
5iR. CORWIN: Nr. Frumenti's garage was built several
~years after this building was constructed. I would like to
file photographs showing the exterior and the interior of the
building. I would submit that the tendendancy of the Board
to turn this down out of hand is a mistake. Certainly the
hardship is not imposed on the present applicant. It was
created a long time ago.
THE CHAIRNAN: Would you not say it was a self imposed
hardship if someone bought the lot with a building on it?
MR. CORWIN: 5~. Frumenti was not obliged to draw a line
when he sold it to his son.
THE CHAIR~N~ The present applicant is not obliged to
buy it.
~R.. CORWIN~ It is a lesser eyesore today than it has
been before.
THE CHAIRN3~N: i would not deo~v it on that basis.
THE CF~IR~L~N: Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to convert existing garage and
storage to dwelling; building has insufficient side and rear
yards for dwelling. Location of property~ west side Stars
Road, East Marion, New York. The findings of the Board are
that there is no reason to change the decision of the Board
which was rendered on April 19, 1973 on Appeal No. 1736.
The Board finds that the application is in violation of the
Ordinance in all respects. It would be permissible for the
applicant to apply for a buildi~ permit to move the dwelling
to a location on the property that would meet the requirements
of the Ordinance. Use of a building, without a Certificate ef
Occupancy, is not permitted.
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The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would not produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardships
the hardship created is not unique and would be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use districts and the variance will change the
character of the neighborhood, and will not obsez-¢e the
spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by ~. Gillispie, seconded by~r. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Patricia Hocker, lll6 Nain Street, Greenport,
New York, be DENTED permission to convert existing garage and
storage to dwelling on the west side of Stars Road, East Narion~
New York, as applied for, for the reasons stated.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Nessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal
upon application of Kurt Koehler, Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 302, for permission to construct garage
in front yard area. Location of property: east side Stillwater
Avenue, Cutchogue, Lot #16, Nap of N. So H~ud. Fee paid $15o00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the applicant.
THE CHAI~MAN~ is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
NR. KURT KOEBT~ER: ~ere am I going to put a garage with
this situation of the house being so close to the water? This
lot has been vacant, in oL~ name, for ~0 years. I am paying
taxes on the property~ why can't I build on it?
THE CHAI~N~ The Building Inspector denied your application
because of the Zoning Ordinance but the reason for the existence
of this Board is that there are a lot of situations where we
can grant relief to people. Not everything fits the rules.
I notice that you spoke of this as being vacs~t land. Do you
own two lots there?
MR. KOEHLER: Yes.
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THE CHAIR~L~d~ As far as our purposes are concerned you
have one lots If you had bought three of them that would
still be one lot, The applicant has a situation in which
his house is practically on the water~ he is unable to
put a garage in the legal rear yard area,
THE C~w3~I~AN~ Does anyone else wish to speak for this
application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRM~N~ Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak against this application?
GARY 0LSEN~ ESQo~ I represent Nro Ernest Goodell who is
a neighbor immediately to the north of the applicant, We
understand his problem as far as attempting to put aD. accessory
building there as his technical backyard would be in the water.
We would like to brir~g to the Board's attention the location
he has picked out in the front yard~ Where the building is
presently going up it blocks the complete view of my client,
They were taking advantage of the view through the back yard
of that area~ The garage is quite large, about 36' x 24' and
is directly to the side of my client's home so that when they
look out their living room window all they can see is a huge
garage~ They can no longer take advantage of the view that they
had before, The applicant has about 163 feet from Stillwater
~venue and plenty of room to put it someplace else, The
location is a most undesirable spot because it is an eyesore,
It's not particularly attractive and also I feel that it very
severely devalues my client's property, It's just a case of
location~ if it were closer to the road it would be better.
Ny client has twoviews and it definitely devalues their
property to have this garage right along side and adjoining
their property, Ny client's property is about 4 feet lower
than the applicant's property,
N~w£. G00DELL: Our property is so low that the base of
the building starts at about our window level and that will
make it so much more unbearable to look at, The empty lot is
on ~n incline.
~. ERNEST GOODELL: It's going to devalue ourproperty ~
since it's going to be a cement building, There are none in
our neighborhood. It's larger than our house. If we were to
build our house today it would cost $40,000, Our taxes will
be $750 so why should we have a garage in the front of our
window? Our house is on 50 feet and the empty lot is 47 feet.
I have another building, a little shingle building.
THE CHAIR~N~ This lot is between your ho~se and the proposed
garage and it's about 4 feet lower and the whole thing is in the
woods. You are back roughly about the same distance as the
proposed garage.
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THE CHAI~M~ The attoz~ey for ~. Goodell brecht up
the question as to whether this could be located anywhere elseo
~o KOEHI.~R~ The location I picked is almost in the
middle cf the property. I don't w~ut the garage too far
away from the house in bad weather~
THE CHAIR¥~N: You have two buildings on your property,
one is going to be demolished.
M~. KOEHLER: This building is a garage but it has no
use as a garage.
THE CHAIP~: That is in the front yard area of your
property so you are going to demolish that and use the let
you have owned for.40 years, and put a new garage in the
center of it. It ms 36~ x ~4' for two cars and accessory area.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: We are not really arguing about pro-
hibiting the granting of some sortef variance. It's just a
case of where it should be placed. It's the least attractive
area for my client, if it was just moved back towards the
road a little bit so they would not have to stare into a
cement block wall, they would be satisfied°
THE CHAIR~_AN~ In situations like this where you have
a garage in the front yard area, to s~me extent we have tried
to place them in the least ~udesirable ~rea but where a man
wishes to place a garage somewhere near his home, and where
the adjoining property has an accessory buildingwhich is
closer to the road than this is, it's sort of a case of the
"pot calling the kettle black"° N~, Goodell has an accessory
building which is closer to the road than this is.
NRS~ G00DELL: But it's not an eyesore.
THE C~IRNAN~ We have no Architectural Review Board.
NRS. G00DELL: The situation of our house and the huge
garage which is longer than our house, and starts higher than
our house, will be a black eye to us, Why did he choose that
spot, is it because it's im the middle of the property?
N~. KOEHLER~ I do not want it too far away from the house,
THE CHAI~L~ I can see why you might not want it further
back because there is a stand of trees to the east of this.
MRS. GOODELL: There was a tremendous tree that~.Koehler
took down, a two tr~_uk tree. We realize that a lot of work was do~e,
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THE C~IRN~d~': Our decision would not be related to whether
he has begun work.
GARY OLSEN, ESQo: In light of the fact that there are
some aecessorybuildings that are on the property of my client,
as well as in front yards ef other property owners to the south
of it, I believe that they are averagely set back, I am not
hero to argue against there doing it but to find out what
would be a fair way, in view of the fact that you have the
power to grant variances. As lor~g as there are other accessory
buildings, maybe they should be kept in line. There is one
window in my client's living room. If the garage could be
moved 20 feet or so, they wouldn't have to look smack into it.
It could be kept a reasonable distance from ~. Koehler's
home and would not jeopardize the economic property value.
THE CHAIRN~h~: I am going to suggest that the Board grant
this permission to erect this garage at any Point between 125'
and 175' from Stillwater Avenue on the west, and ~pe these two
neighbors can come to some agreement~
GARY OLSEN, ESQ,: Does ~r. Koehler have a survey of the
property?
THE CHAIRMAN: On the sketch, it's 163 feet from the
water. There are accessory buildings much closerto the road
than this one. ~. Koehler will have a leeway of 50 feet.
THE CHAI~tAN: Are there az~y questions?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct garage in front yard
area, Lot #16, on the east side of Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue~
New York. The findings of the Board are that applicant wishes
to erect garage approximately in the center of the lot which
he has oa~ed forgo years, which is adjacent to his residence
lot. He finds it impossible to locate the garage in his
technical rear yard area because his house is toe close to the
water. The Beard agrees that applicant may locate his garage
on Lot #16 at any point between 125' and 17~' from Stillwater
Avenue on the west~
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship~
the hardship created is u~ique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the sa~e use district~ and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
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On motion byNr. Grigonis, seconded by ~. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED, Kurt Koehler, Stiltwater Avenue, Cutchogue~ New
York, be GP~NTED permission to construct garage in front yard
area, Lot #16, Nap of M. S, H~ud, east side of Stillwater
Avenue, Cutchogue, as applied for, subject to the following
condition:
That the garage may be located at ~uy point between
125' and 175' from Stillwater Avenue on the west.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
PUBLIC ?KEARING: Appeal No. 1818 - 8:30 P~M. (E~S.T~),
upon application of Miriam Hitchcock, l~ Greenway Street,
Hamden, Connecticut, for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article Iii, Section 301, the Bulk Schedule
and Section 280A of the Town Law, for permission to construct
dwelling and divide property with insufficient area and
frontage, and approval of access. Location of property:
right of way off Grand Avenue, Mattituck, bounded north by
William Black; east by W. Black and H. Krause~ south by
C. Ely~ west by Mattituck Creek. Fee paid
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the applicant.
The Chairman read letter from William Wickham, Wickham &
Lark, P.C., Mattituck, New York, as follows:
"I regret very much I have to advise you that the application
of Miriam R. Hitchcock is withdra~n~, and I apologize for
any inconvenience which you may have been caused."
For the record: Appeal No. 1818, Miriam Hitchcock,
l0 Greenway Street, Hamden, Connecticut, scheduled for 8:30
P.M., August 9, 1973, hearing has been withdrawn.
PUBLIC BLARING: Appeal No. 1817 - 8~45 P.M. (E.SoT.),
upon application of George Ahlers, 250 Cox Lane, Cutchogue,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
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~mtic!e iii, Section 301 aud the Bulk Schedule ~ud Section
280A of the Town Law, for permission to divide property with
insufficient area and frontage and construct two dwellir~s,
and approval of access. Location of property~ right of way
off south side Bayview Road, Southold, bounded north by
Clemens~ east by Bayview Development Corp,~ south by Corey
Creek! west by right of way. Fee paid
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesti~
to its publication in the official newspapers~ and notice to
the applicant,
THE CH~_iR~N: The application is accompanied by a Van
Tuyl survey indicating the proposed location of these lots
and showing that on the easterly side there are two dimensions~
480+'aud 263' of beach area, There are two courses on the
westerly line, one of which diverges a little from being
parallel to the easterly line, making it a little wider on the
beach end,
THE CH_&I~&~: Is'there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this application?
NR~ GEORGE AHLERS: I feel that the lot in question,
being almost 2 acres, would not change the character of the
neighborhood. It abuts on an area that is zoned ~ultiple
Dwellings, which has a much higher density than what we are
as~ing. Surrounding areas to the west have a much higher
density than what we are asking, Nost of them are one half
acre in size, (The Board and Nr. Ahlers discussed the
measurements as shown~n the survey)~
THE CH~IR~N: It seems to be a lot more than 78~000 sq. ft.
~ ABV~RS~ This is a survey by Van Tuyl, They have a Deed
from the To~, on land which was filled in, and that may be what
adds to the lot size~ The upper lot, if you go from the north
down to where the sand starts~ would probably be 200' to 220'
in length. We would like to have ~70 foot frontage which would
take us three-quarters of the way down that slope. The map
t was shown is not a filed map. When I started to buy this I
talked to ~. Terry. The official map does not show this but
it was on the map I saw. ~ would assume you would ultimately
set a boundary as to how you would split the lot. The natural
terrain should be taken into consideration, The lower lot is
a very flat lot, probably 4 or 5 feet above the high tide line
overall. At 170 feet, that lower lot would have some upland.
If a house were put on it, it would not be so vulnerable to
storm tides,
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THE CH_AIRMA~J: I think you could get an acre of upland.
MR, AHT~RS: In looking at the subdivision, in general,
the lots are all rather small.
MR. HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector: They were on a
120' to 125' basis.
MR~ AHLERS: I just want to put two houses on the two
lots~ one on the upper and one on the lower, It is about
2 and 2/3 acres,
THE CHAIRN~N: You said something about access.
MR, TERRY~ It's a map the same as a filed map but it has
neverbeen recorded. The roads were established prior to the
Ordinance. It's recognition of an existing fact.
THE C~IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak against this application?
~R. ROBERT CLEM~NS~ I have the adjoining property up
the hill from this area. I think the map shows a l?O'
lot on the original piece, I would not want to quibble with
the surveyor but he measured it off and did not quite come
to 2 acres, and a good part of that, the beach laud, has been
flooded at times, It has been flooded up that hill. (Mr.
Clemens indicated on the map how far up the flooding had come).
About two years ago it flooded up as high as that area. We
have no objection to a house on the original lot but it seems
to me it would be some sort of endsngerment. It's about 2 feet
above high water. We are thinking of cesspools and the creek,
itself, because there is a canal that goes up to the right of way.
MR. ROBERT BERGEN: That comes under the Health Department's
jurisdiction.
MR. CLE~NS~ I have a petition signed ~F~ilthe area residents,
just stating our case with everyone sitting down ~nd talking it
over~
THE CHA!k~AN~ I will read it as it s~mmarizes your objections:
"We, the undersigned, homeowners in the vicinityof the property
for which the above hearing is to be held, urgently request that
the above petition be denied, for reasons, ~mong others, as follows:
1. The original map sets forth this site as one lot, suitable for
one dwelling. This should so remain, The later acquired additional
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sandy filled in area should not now be considered as additional
building area, and should not be a factor in determining or
changing zoning.
2. The rural atmosphere which the present property owners
sought in p~rchasing their property should not now be further
disturbed by dow~zoning what was a very generous decision on
the part of the To~a~ to allow these existing small plots to
staud as they were under the old maps.
3o There are seven additional dwellings planned for this one
road area, which will alone severely tax the existing water
right of way, now shared by the m~uy homes already constructed.
4. The old zmm~g under the old map is so far short of the
present one acre minimum declared desirable by the Tov~n that'
no f~ther downzoning should be permitted.
5. The sewerage problems involved would be overwhelming in
housing so close to the bay, and would adversely affect existing
dwellings.
6. The ingress and egress on the private road leading into
this areafrom Bayview Road will barely bear the burden of the
now contemplated additional bUildio~. Any additional downzoning
would harshly affect traffic patterns on this road and on to
Ba~¢iew.
7. On general ecological grounds, at this stage in the history
of overcrowding,.ins~ufficient area and frontage should be
sufficient reason for delayi~ this petition."
Petition signed by: Robert J. Clemens, Nary E. Clemens, W. R.
Boily, Dorothy K. Boily, Thomas N. Craig, ~arjorie D. Craig,
Lawrence J, Saybern, Helen NcPartland, Eugene J. NcPartland,
Walter Gless, Janet Dur~r, Violet Sauer, John Clemens, Nary
Clemens, Hana Shaw, Robert W. Greene, Helen Greene.
Th~ CF~iR~tN: We can not deny on ecological grounds.
Sewage problems are not related to this Board.
NR. CLEANS: We are not trying to prevent the developer
from building one house but do not think there should be two
houses with the way the water comes up that hill. This is my
own opinion.
THE CHAIR~k~N: we have never been able to get the Tow~ to
agree to flood ple~ zoning. People still buildhouses where it
floods every high tide. Where something is not stipulated in
the Ordinance, it is beyond this Board. If a m~u wants to build
a house on mean one foot high tide it's up to him.
~. CLE~NS: You mean he could build on the beach?
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N~o CLEMENS (cont'd): The beach portion is a good portion of
that two acres. He is asking to change one acre zoning to
put up two houses. He is asking to cha~e that 170 foot lot
because of the front portion.., because it is unbuildable.
Actually, he is not going to build a hsuse on each acre.
THE CH~.!RM~N~ I think he can. Frequently in this type
of situation, to help the Town, we would prefer that you don't
increase the density of the whole acre. If this were held to
a half acre and one and a half acres went to the other lot, we
would not be increasing the densitye
~LR. CLEMENS: But, I am saying that you ~re virtually
takingthe 170' lot and putting two houses on it. You are
not putting it on two acres.
THE CHAIR~LAN: He projected this to 220'~
ERr CLEMENS: I am saying 170' to the water line.., from
a practical point of view, where the water has come up to.
I am giving him the benefit that there is laud beyond that is
dry. My point is that you are basing your zoning on two acres
and there is not two acres of buildable land.
TP~ CHAIR.MAN: The way the Ordinance reads we have no
control over hurrica~_es or storm tides.
MR. WALTER GLESS: This gentleman (N~. Bergen) said he
is not interested in the amomut of sewage that goes into the
creek~
~R. ROBERT BERGEN: We have nothing to say about it.
That would be a consideration of the Health Department.
NR. GLESS~ I am one of the owners in that area. If this
Board approves, could the Health Department cancel it out?
NR. HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector: This BOard could
approve and the Health Department could deny a permit.
TEE CHAIPJ~AN: I ~m not sure a variance is required as to
size. I think we will have to determine the acreage. We assume
that when a variance is applied for all the factson the applica-
tion state the situation accurately.
NR. CLEMENS~ When I checked this over, fill was put in
this area around here (indicating map). This was tidal marsh.
There is a canal that comes in short of the right of way~ All
the rest of this has been filled in..o about 8 or 9 years ago.
The County put it in.
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THE CN~IRM_AN: Were you happy to have it put in?
CLEMENS: No one asked us. It did not make any
difference~
NM. HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector: Since that map
was made in 1958 I don't think they resur~e~ed that piece of
property.
THE CHAIRMAN: We won't make a decision tonight. We will.
try to get all the i~ormation we cE.
MR~ CLEMENS: If you check this with a rulert it falls
short of two acres. Measuring it down - scale l" to 100' -
it still doesn't make it.
MR. CLES~NS: I understand they have a 40,000 sq. ft. acre°
MR. HOWARD TERRY: That's a builders acre.
MARJORIE CRAIG: I thought the Town Board at one time
made one acre zoning,
THE CHAIRMAN: An acre is 43,560 sq. ft. but a builder's
acre is 40,000 sq. ft;80~00Sq, ft, would be two acres. There
are one or two towns in the west that use the exact acre figure.
NkARJORIE CRAIG: ~. Ahlers said he was going te face one
house facing the right of way.
MR. AHLERS~ I don't recall saying that. This is not
really my intention. It is not what I meant, Obviously, with
the two lots there, one would become a waterview lot and the
other a waterfront lot. Basically, we would face the houses
toward the water.
~3~RJORIE CRAIG: How are the houses going to be faced if
he has two houses? Before he said he would have one house
facing west of the right of way; and second, he talked about
a house on the north end.
THE CHAIRN~N~ Perhaps ~, Ahlers can explain.
5~o ~3U~E~: I would face them beth to the south~ the view
area would face south. The reason I suggested 170 feet for
the upper lot is that it would take you three quarters of the
way down that hill, I can ~nderstand Mr, Clemen's objections.
I don't want to eat up the view. My projection would be for
a lo~ silhouette house.
MR. CLEMENS~ I presumed that some day that property in
front of us would be sold.
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~R. ~IERS~ I was talking with my architect and I told
him that if there is any way possible of retaining your view,
I would situate the house so you don't lose it.
~LR~ CLEMENS: ~y thought here is final lot size. I have
no objections to that l?0' lot. I knew there was a 170' lot
in front of me. Saving the view is of great interest to me,
it's a natural thing... I would be kidding myself,
MR, W, BOILY~ I have adjoining property to the road,
directly opposite. My question would be if he builds on 170'
going~down, what does it do to the zoning regulations~ is it
an acre?
THE CHAIRMAN~ If he built on 17~' x llS' he would have
approximately half aD. acre,
MR, CLEMENS: I beg your pardon, it's 103 feet.
THE CHAI~JuN: There is a 15 feet right of way~
NR~ ROBERT W~ GREENE~ I think on the easternmost part of
that map there is a right of way r~nning from Ba~¢iew, a 12 foot
right of way~ I own that right of way going back to all those
pieces of property. That acco~uts for the difference of 103'
and llS'. I don't think you could include the 12 feet that I
own, ~Nebody can build on it,
THE CPLAIR~&AN: Do these other people have permission to
use it?
NR ~ GREENE ~ No o
THE CHAIR~N~ How wide is the area called Koke Drive?
~. CLEmeNS: 30 feet,
THE C~AIRNAN~ This would be about 18,000 sq, ft. which
is a little less than half ~u acre,
RH{. CLER[ENS~ You answered my question but it wo~d pose
a problem since you talk about acre zonir~. You are now
talking about 18,GO0 sq. ft. which doesn't make sense.
DOROTHY BOiLY~ Ny question~ On the priVate read ,~gnt
of way) how many feet in would he be off the right of way?
THE CF3,I~RNAN~ Within zoning regulations.
~RS. BO!LY: Also, there is the cesspool problem.
Southold Town Beard of Appeals
August 9, 1973
THE CHA!R~AN~ That is a Bo~rd of Health matter.
Terry can tell you approximately What they require.
MR. HOWARD TERRY: You have to have 100 feet from ~uy well
or pool, They measure from your wellpoint ~ud your cesspool.
The fellow who wants to build across the way has to be 100 feet
from your well, You can put cesspools side by side and back
to back.
~S, BOILY: How many feet from the road?
TERRY: l0 feet, within the boundaries of his own lot.
~, CLEMENS: The way he is surrounded there by cesspools,
I dontt know whether he would get his water there~ He would
have difficulty finding his water,
THE CHAI~N: This is one of the major reasons we have
advanced from 12,500 sq~ ft, to 40,000 sq. ft,
NARJORIE CRAIG: Did I hear you say that this was turned
down by the Building Inspector?
THE CHAIRMAN: That's an automatic procedure before coming
to this Board.
NARJORIE C~AIG: Why would he turn it down?
THE CHAIR~N: We should be using the words "80,000 sq. ft~
for two lots".
~ARJORIE C~AIG: W~y would the Building inspector t-~rn it
down?
THE CHAIR~N~ He had 78,000 sq. ft~ in the application.
NR~ CLE~ENS: I would like toget back to the original
question where we talked about 40,000 sq. ft. ~ud 18,0O0 sq. ft.
We were rezoned in one acre zoning, What does he do about his
last house on the hill? He may have an acre but he has the
length of a house between the bottom lot and the water, Let's
make the assumption that he has two lots, split it in half and
he has one acre zoniug on the top half, ~ud on the other he has
mostly beach,
THE CHAIPd~L&N: We have urged the Town to de something about
this, In the mei~utime we can Only act under the Ordinance that
we have, Othe~ise~ we would be overturned,
NR~ CLE~NS~ Doesn't the Couuty have some sort of regu-
lation on building within 500 feet of the shoreline?
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MR~ TERRY: Any variance within 500 feet has to go to the
County for review before this Beard makes it final. Whether
they pass it or deny it, the recommendatio~ go to the County
for review.
~. GEORGE ~TLERS: I would say that I suggested l?0 feet
because it made it feasible to build a conventional style home
on the lower part. Obviously, you c~u build a house on stilts
which I don't think anyone in that area would like to see. I
don't care if the Board wants to make both lots one acre. i am
sure i eau meet all regulations~ 100 feet away from mean high
tide with cesspools. Ny original suggestion of 170 feet would
allow me to put a house on the lower lot closer to the higher
one. I am looking for two lots~ whether they are one acre lots
really makes little difference to me,
~hR. CLEmeNS ~ i don't want you to bunch both houses on
that 170 foot lot.
THE CHAIR~bN~ Does ~uyone else wish to speak at this time?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIR~iAN: Are there ~ny questions?
(there was no response.)
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by ~. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that the decision of the Board bepostponed ~til
the next regular meeting of the Board which shall be held on
August 30, 1973, for the purpose of gathering mere information
on the area involved. No further testimony shall be taken at
the time the decision is rendered by the Board of Appeals,
Vote of the Board~ Ayes~- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
PUBLIC HE~ING, ~ppeal No~ 1819 - 9:00 Po~. (E.S.T.),
upon application of James P. Kav~nagh, Main Road, East ~arion~
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article V, Section ~00 B-3 and Article XV,
Section 1504 la, for permission to convert existing motel,
known as Crescent Beach Motel, to permanent condominiums.
Location of property: south side Main Road, East Marion, bounded
n,rth by Main Road$ east by Rudkoski and Dav~ Est~tes~ south by
Gardiners Bay~ west by Dawn Estates, Fee paid
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~ugust 9, 1973
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and
notioe to the applicant~
THE CHAIR~iAN: The application is accsmpanied by a sketch
which indicates that applicant is the owner of a parcel of
5.32 acres on which are situated, in the northeast corner and
the southerly area of this 5.32 acre plot, ten (10) buildi~s,
each of which is a duplex, comprising twenty (20) apartment
u~its~
THE CHAI~N: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
RUDOLPH BR~R, ESQ.~ I think what we a_~e basically asking
for is upzoning,
THE CHAIR~*~N: This is the first application we have ever
had for condominiums, and the word doesn't appear in our
Ordinance.
~R. BRUER: The area is presently zoned Nultiple Residence,
N~-l. What you have here are buildings that are not, as a
practical matter, suited for all year round residence. The
purpose of the owner would be to sell the buildings if he could
get permission from the respective State authorities,
THE CHAIR~N~ Our counsel indicated that that might
take two to three years.
NR. BRUER~ Mr. Kavanagh has informed me that he would
like to restrict occupancy to four to seven months.
THE CHAIrmAN: You are suggesting condominium ownership
with restricted seasonal use.
MR. BRUER: This is fortified by the fact that the buildings
are not suited for all year round use in terms of heat.
NR, JA~S KAVANAGH: The buildings have electric heat but
it would be very expensive heating them without insulation.
i have the intention of selling the~ to senior citizens.
MR. BRUER~ The apartments are basically one bedroom,
living room, kitchenette, and bathroom,
NR~ KAVANAGH: The apartments are approximately a 500 sq. ft.
~area~
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August 9, 1973
THE CHAIR~N~ You say that you wish to sell these
buildings to senior citizens.
NRc KAVANAGH~ Fifty years of age or over.
THE CHAI~N~ I don't think we can, under our Town laws~
restrict the use of property as to the age of the individuals.
MR. BRUER~ It would be in the by-laws.
TP~ CHAIR~N:
fifty years or over.
to seven months?
You would have Deed restriction as to age,
Do you think you can limit this to four
NR~ M~VAN~AGH: ~y intent is to sell to people who probably
go to'Florida for six or seven months of the year.
~Ro BRb~R~ They are designed for seasonal use~ He would
be limited by the size of the buildings he has.
Th~ CHAI~¢~N~ We can restrict any enlargement of the
outside dimensions.
~R. BRUER: i think in terms of size it would not en-
courage relatives or in-laws to visit as there is only one
bedroom and one living room. I think it's a natural situation
where you would not have overcrowdiD~.
THE C~&IRMAN~ ~en we were there the other day there were
couple of children on the gro~uds.
NR~ KAVANAGH~ We have a lot of children there now. It's
an ideal place for them. We have high-risers in the living
room so that four or five people can sleep comfortably there.
THE CHAIRM~N~ You are going to restrict that?
MR. F~VANAGH: I will sell each one to a couple~ on the
order of Leisure Village.
THE CHAIRx¥~N~ I think it would have to be no more than two
people in that size apartment.
Nd{. BRL~R: I think the application speaks for itself.
~R. KAVANAGH~ There is one correction~ the 5.32 acres
doesn't take in that barn. i o~ one barn and it gives me
a half acre additional included with my home. It will be owned
in common. They will have a Sun Deck, Shuffle Board Court, and
I intend to put in a Tennis Court. I would change the existing
roads, I would not go around my house ~nd I would eliminate the
road in front of the beach houses.
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Th~ CHAtRNAN~ The land e~ea would be common land subject
to control and maintenance of a properly constituted property
Association,
MRo BRUER: It's in the statute, it specifies a common
area. We would have to provide the State in detail every part
that is common to the nth degrees what exactly is common area
that they would be responsible for, I believe the rights of
au Association are fairly well spelled out. There is a
specified procedure to enforce whatever rights they do have
under a special section of the law. It's not a typical
Property Association by a group of people getting together~
TP~ CHAIPd~N: It becomes a lien by agreement.
MR. B~JER~ This is something that's worked out on
condomini'~m homes. I have not become 8n expert in this field,
MR. E~VANAGH~ I believe on Shinnecock Canal, the Seabreeze
Cottages were sold as condominiums,
MR~ BRUER: If I may further state, it definitely has to
go to the State~
THE CHAIR~iAN~ It has to have site plan approval of the
Planning Board. I covered this part with Town counsel.
MR. BRUER~ It's already sited.
~R~ HOWARD TERRY, Building Inspector: He may want to
show the tennis court, and where the roads are being changed.
TH~ CHAI~IAN: You have to have parking, one space per
unit. After you have taken the lot out for your house, you
will have about 5 acres left, It looked to Us as if the
maximum density is 9,000 sq. ft. per unit. Twenty units
will give you something to spare.
THE CHAIR~N~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
RUTH 0LIVER: In upzoning, would this be upzoned from
THE CHAI~TAN:
the word "upzoned".
upgraded?
There would be no change, ~, Bruer used
What makes you say that this would be
MR, BRUER~ Just a feeli~ going from transient to permanent
occupancy ena seasonal basis and without enlarging would seem to
be upgrading.
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~AR. KAVANAGH: In a motel you get people who are good,
bad and indifferent~ This way, it would be a little more
selective~
TH~ C~&IRNAN: As I understand it, three or four couples
want to come back to your place.
HR. KAVANAGH~ I would buy the other four~
THE CH_~I~tAN~ In other words, the Property Owners
Association would start out with 20 in your hands.
MR. KAVANAGH~ I would have to have a minimum of 14
in addition to my own before I could go ahead with it. I
would want at least 14. I think you have te have a certain
percentage sold before they accept the application.
MR. BRUEE: With respect to the Pla~ing Board and
site plan, would this be done by regular application to the
Plar~ning Board?
THE CHAIPJ~N~ This has to be done by special exception.
in the Ordinance requires Site Plan approval by the
Plighting Board.
TH~ CH~I~b~N~ Does anyone else present wish to speak
for or against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to convert existing motel, k~.own
as Crescent Beach Notel, to permanent condominiums~ located
on the south side of ~ain Road, East ~arion, New York~ The
findings of the Board are that applic~ut is the owner of a
parcel of land comprising 5°32 acres on which are situated
ten'(10) buildings, each.of which is a duplex~ comprising
twenty (20) apartment un~tso The area is zoned Nultmple
Residence~ M-1. The units have one bedroom, living room~
kitchenette, ~ud bathroom~ &nd the applicant proposes to sell
the units to senior citizens on the basis of restricted
seasonal use. The land area would be common land subject to
control and maintenance of a properly constituted Property
Owners Association. The Board agrees with the reasoning of
the applicant.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
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permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by ~r. Gillispie, seconded by Nr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED, James P. Kavanagh, Main Road, East Marion,
New York, be GRANTED permission to convert existing motel,
known as Crescent Beach Motel, to permanent condominiums.
Location of property~ south side of Main Road, East Marion,
New York, as applied for, subject to the following conditions:
e
Subject to Site Plan approval of the Planning
Board, including location of tennis courts~ new
access road, adequate parking under present
Ordinance, and other common facilities.
Subject to setting off the residence of the
applicant on a 40,000 sq. ft. plot in such a
way that the bulk regulations of the Ordinance
will be met.
There shall be no enlargement of the outside
dimensions of any of the twenty (20) proposed
condominium Knits.
Occupancy shall be seasonal, limited to the
period from April i to November 1.
All of the land area between the buildings
shall be common land subject to control and
maintenance by a properly constituted Property
Owners Association.
Access shall be as set forth in the site plan
as approved by the Southold To~ Pl~uning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs~ Gillispie, Bergen~
Hulse, Grigonis.
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August 9~ 1973
The Manager of the new W, T~ Grant Department Store in
Mattituck discussed with the Board the possibility of having a
"Grand Opening- sign on a temporary basis for their opening
on August 13th. He said they would like permission to put
a sign in the front of the store for a period of ten days.
The Chairman stated that the whole thrust of the Ordinance is
to eliminate streamers and signs of this type, He said he
can't recall any special exception being given except in the
Case of things that are customary to the Town~ such as Church
Fairs and Bazaars, Service Organizations, and Fire Department
L~'affairs, We do not mean to be unfriendly but we have never
done anything like this. In a further discussion it was
determined that W. T. Grant has a garden center which is a
part of the store but is open to the street and the question
came up as to whether they could put a sign there as the garden
center is inside their building line. Mr, Terry said that
Grant's paid for the square footage when they bought the
building, it was bu_lt for a display area. The Ordinance says
you can't have outside displays, It's paid for as part of the
building to get open space. They did not apply for a sign on
that. r~. Grigonis said he thought if you had a sign inside
a glass window it would look just as bad, The Manager of
Grant's said that they did away with a glass front because
of that, The Chairman said that he understood their position
but that it would open the way for others to put a fence outside
where they could display a sign, Mr. Bergen and ~, Hulse agreed
with the reasoning of the~Chairman.
Decision of the Southold Town Board of Appeals on Appeal
No. 1799, George Ahlers and Barry Hellman, Cutchogue and
Southold, New York, respectively. (A public hearing was held
on June 28, 1973).
The Chairman read letter from George Ahlers, dated Nay l?,
1972~ addressed to the Southold Town Board! and letter from
George Ahlers and Barry H. Hellman, N,D,, dated June 19, 1972,
addressed to the Southold Town Board.
THE CH~iR~N: These letters indicate that the applicants
expect to install a sewage treatment plant. It is understood
by several Boards of the Town that applicants propose to install
such sewage treatment plant~
The Board finds by investigation and public hearing that
change of zone on applicants, property was recommended by the
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August 9, 1973
Southold Town Plan~ing Board to the Town Board on ~arch 23,
1972. The zone was ch~ged from "A" Residential and Agricultural
on Nay 9, 1972 to ~-l~, ~ich permits ~ultiple D~ellings by
Special Exception of the Board of Appeals~ and site plan
approval of the Planning Boards The site ~consists of 22e842
acres on which it is proposed to erect thirteen (13) buildings~
not over 12 apartments psr building, not over 132 feet in length
(See Variance Appeal No. 1800), with a total ef~ 105 one bedroo~
apartments of approximately 825 sq. ftc, 32 two bedroo~ apartments
of approximately 1,005 sq~ ft.~ and 16 Efficiency apartments
of approximately 625 sq. fto Also, a swimming pool and community
building, two tennis courts, shuffle board court, playgro~n~d
court, ~ud sewage treatment plant with public water.
At a number of public hearings, the problems of character
~_d appearance, compatibility, development policies r~lationship,
community facilities relationship, traffic generation (approxi-
mately 933 vehicular trips estimated at completion), access~
drainage, design standards, and a sewage treatment pl~ut, have
been carefully considered° The applic~ut is presently having
an engineeri~ study made to determine the best Sewage treatment
pl~ut for the project, after which the design must be presented
to the Suffolk County Department of Environmental Control and
the Suffolk County Board of Health for approval. The several
Boards of the Town are concerned by the nitrates problem.
However, it is felt that the solution of the denitrification
problem, as it applies to this project, lies with the Suffolk
County Board of Health. Gallonage estimated by the applicant
to make sewage plant operable is variously estimated from
10,000 to 30,000 gallons per day.
The Board finds that the public convenience ~ud welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property a_ud adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit o~ the Ordinance will be observed.
On motion by ~. Gil~spie, seconded by ~. Hulse~ it was
R~SOLVED, George Ahlers and Barry Hellman, Cutchogue ~ud
Southold, New York, respectively, be GRANTED permission to
erect 13 buildings~ as originally applied for, subject to the
following conditions:
1. Site plan approval by the Planning Board of the Town
of Southold.
No Certificates of Occupancy shall be issued by the
Building Inspector unless a Sewage Treatment Plant,
subject to the approval of the Suffolk County Department
of Health and the Suffolk County Department of Environmental
Control, is installed and certified operable by these two
-Agencies.
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August 9, 1973
3. The construction of the sewage treatment plant shall
also be subject to any applicable local, County, State
or Federal law.
Vote of the Board: Ayes~- Nessrs~ Gillispie~ Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
Decision of the Southold Town Board of Appeals on Appeal
No. 1807, John Divello, Soundview Avenue, Fmttituck, New York.
(A public hearing was held on July 19,1973 at 8:00 P.~.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to const~ct garage in front
yard area of property located on the north side of Souudview
Avenue, F~ttituck, New York. The findings of the Board are
that ~r. Divello's neighbors are concerned with the possible
use of this facility as a commercial building, a use which
is not permitted in a residential area. The Board agrees
with the reasoning of the applicant as to hardship.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardships
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use districts and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood and will obse~¢e the spirit
of the Ordinance.
0n motion by F,~. Gillispie, seconded by Nr. Hmlse, it was
RESOLVED, John Divello, Sound View Avenue, Nattituck, New
York, be GRANTED permission to construct garage in front yard
area of property located on the north side of Sound View
Avenue, 51attituck, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the garage shall be 24' x 30'~ and that the
garage floor shall be constructed at ground level.
That the garage shall be located at a distance of
at least 25 feet north of the property line on Sound
View Avenue~ and at least 5 feet off the west side
line.
3. That this garage, located in a residential area, may
not be used for commercial purposes.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
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August 9, 1973
On motion by Nr. Gillispie, seconded by N~. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated J~y 19, 1973, be approved as submitted, subject
to minor correction.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Nessrs: Gilltspie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
On motion by ~. Gillispie, seconded by Me. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the next regular meetir~ of the Southold Town
BOard of Appeals will be held at 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday,
August 30, 1973, at the Town Office, Main Read, Southold, New
York.
Vote of the Board:
Grigonis.
Ayes:- Nessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
For the record: 12 Sign Renewals were reviewed and
approved as submitted.
On motion by N~. Bergen, seconded by Nr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 7~45
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of M.S.T. Construction Cor~., Middle Country
Road, Mattituck, for a variance in acc,rdance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 303 and 304 for permission te
reduce ~verage setback on corner Iot~ Location of property~
Lot #2, Saltaire Estates, Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Nessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
On motion by ~. Gillispie, seconded by ~. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 7:55
P.M. (E.S.T,), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Town Office,
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Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Ke~ueth Watson, Nidland Place, East Marion,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~
Article Iii, Section 305 for permission to erect part of 6'
fence in front yard area (lot has 3 (three) front yards)~
Location of property: Lot #48, ~arion Manor, East Narion.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Huls~
Grigonis.
On motion by ~. Hulse, seconded by ~, Grigonis~ it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8~10
P.~. (E.S~T~), Thursday~ August 30, 1973, at the To~m Office,
Nain Road, Southold, New York, as the time ~d place of hearing
upon application of Edward Cielatka, S~it Road, Southold,
New York, for a variance in accord~uce with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 300 C-2 & Section 302 for permission to
have swimming pool in side yard. Location of property: Lots
# 27 ~ 28~ Bayside Terrace, Southold.
VOte of the Bos~d~
Grigonis.
Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
On motion by Nr. Grigonis, seconded by ~. Bergen~ it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 8~25
P.Mo (E.S~T.), upon application of Witli~m Grefe~ New Suffolk
Avenue, New SUffolk, New York, for a special exception in
accordance with the Zoning 0rdine~uce, Article IX, Section 900,
as refers to Article VIII, Section 800 B-4, 3 and Article IX
Section 900-8 for permission to operate building contractor yard
and to m~uufacture and store concrete products. Location of
property: New Suffolk Avenue, New Suffolk, bounded north by
L.B. Glever, Jr.; east by Cox Lane~ s~uth by B. Harris~ west
by L. Glover, Jr.
Vote of the Board~ Ayes:- Nessrs~ Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
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On 'motion by ~Ir. Bergen, seconded by ~. Hulse, it was
RESOLV~F~D that the Southold To~vn Board of Appeals set 8:40
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Tow~_ Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Arthur J. Bujnowski, 6 Surryhill Place,
Huntington, New York, for a variance in accord~uce with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article iii, Section 300 C, ~ud Article iX,
Section 900-46, for permission to operate airfield and airplane
storage in "A" Zone District. Location of property: S/S ~ain
Road, Pec~nic, New York, bounded north by Main Road~ east by
P. Wenzel~ south by Leslie Road~ west by A. Krupski.
Vote of the Board~ Ayes:- Messrs~ Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis,
On motion by N~. Gillispie, seconded by l~r. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Tew~ Board of Appes~s set 9~00
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York~ as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Vito Randazzo, 54 James Street, Patchogue,
New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning 0rdina~.ce,
Article Iii, Section D01 and the Bulk Schedule for permission
to divide lots with less th~n required area. Location of
property: Lots #3, 4 and 5, Cedar Beach Park, Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Nessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
On motion by ~. Hulse, seconded by ~. Gillispie, it was
RESOLV~D that the Southold To'~n Board of Appeals set 9:10
PoN. (E.S.T.), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of ~lattitUck Inlet Marina, Mill Road, Nattituck,
New York, for a soecial exception in accordance with the Zoning
0rdin~uce, Articl~ Vi, Section 600 C, and &rticle XV, Section
1501 for permission to maintain roof sign on building. Location
of property: W/S of ~attituck inlet, Nattituck, bounded north
by J.R. Holmes! east by Nattituck inlet~ south by Lot P, Shore
Acres~ west by J. Leo Grande and N. Chudiak.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- ~essrs. Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
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On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by ~. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:25
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Henry Walsh, Private Road, Fishers Island,
for a variance in accordance with the Zoni~ Ordinance, Article
III, Section 301 and the Bulk Schedule for permission to
divide property with less than required area. Location of
property: Right of way off S/S Ave. B, Fishers Island, bounded
north by Lands of Henry Zabohonski & Another~ east by Jane
DuPont~ south by Land of Henry Zabohonski & Another~ west
by G. Repanti & 0thers~
Vote of the Board~ Ayes:- Nessrs~ Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
On motion by ~ Bergen, seconded by N~. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the~Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:40
PoM. (EoS.T~), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the Town Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Guido Ciacia, Main Road, Gree~ort, New
York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 301 and the Bulk Schedule as applies to
Article IV, Section 600A for permission to set off single lot
with less than required area. Location of property~ Lot #176,
~unended Map of Peconic Bay Estates~ Greenport, New York~
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Nessrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis.
On motion by ~. Gillispie, seconded by F~. Bergen, it was
RESOLVEDthat the Southold Town Board of Appeals set 9:50
P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, August 30, 1973, at the To~ Office,
Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place of hearing
upon application of Brian Lynch, R.D.1, Box 21E, Nattituck,
for a variance in accord8mce with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 300 C, sm_d Article IX, Section 900-46 for permission
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to operate Aireal Spraying service in "A" District. Location
of property~ N/S of Oregon Road, Nattituck~ bounded north by
L. Io Sound~ east by Rose H, Baer~ south by Oregon Roads
west by Grafic Arts Management Corp.
Vote of the Board~ ~yes~- Messrs~ Gillispie~ Bergen~ Hulse,
Grigonis.
The Meeting was adjourned at ll~20 PoM,
Respectfully submitted ~
~¢~0~ // ~ ~arjor:~e McDermott, Secretary
// /~~~~Southold Toval Bo~d of Appeals
Robert W. G~ll_sp~e, Jr., Chairman