HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/19/1981 HENRY E. RAYNOR. Jr. Chairman
JAMES WALL
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, Jr.
'GEORGE RITCHIE LATHAM. Jr.
William F. Mullen, Jr.
Southold, N.Y. 11971
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A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Beard was held
at 7:30 p.m..Monday October 19, 1981 at the Town Hall, Main Road
Southold, New York. Present were:
Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr.
Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Member William F. Mullen, Jr.
Member Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Long Island Nurseries - Mr. Benjamin Kasper and the board discussed
the Suffolk County Planning disapproval as further subdivision is
intended for the future. The board suggested the possibility of sub-
mitting a cluster plan on this property. Mr. Kasper stated that con-
trary to his letter, dated August 17, 1981, he has no intentions of
further subdividing, possibly someone else would. Because this area
was a nursery up until this year, he has had interested parties in-
quire about three and four acre parcels for the use of greenhouses,
as this land is adapted for this prupose. The board advised that if
it was agreeable to Mr. Kasper, that a request for covenants, stating
such, be obtained from the Town Attorney for Mr. Kasper's approval.
Suffolk County National Bank at Mattituck - Mr. Alan Cardinale and Mr.
Ed Mertz discussed this site plan with the board. The board advised
Mr. Cardinale that the two bank proposals for the shopping area would
reduce parking area by 51 park£ng spaces as stated in Mr. Fisher's
report dated October 16, 1981. The board suggested that in order to
accomodate the two new additions, Mr. Cardinale should find another
form of usage for one of the new proposals or reduce the amount of sales
area in the buildings that are presently dormant, possibly non-retail
use, such as storage and warehouse. A covenant on redUction of retail
area could be included on the site plan. As this area has received
two variances from the ZBA for the reduction of parking area, it was
suggested that the Building Inspectors compute the amount of sales
area to be reduced to conform with parking requirements. It is the
intent to have a full service facility with the National Bank, includ-
ing service unitl 6:00 p.m. on Friday, as stated by Mr. Mertz. The
North Fork Bank & Trust is not intended to be full service. It was
noted that the rear landscaping area is larger than the front. A com-
mittee was appointed to do a field inspection and report their findings
to the board at the November 9 meeting.
pg. 2 10/19/81
John Simicich minor subdivision - Mr. Charles Cuddy appeared on
behalf of his client. He asked that the board consider the proposed
subdivision submitted in 1975, as withdrawn by the applicant. The
present proposal has a third lot included, which was part of the
property that had been in one name. This lot (~3) had been set off
by the Building Inspector and acquired approval from the ZBA for a
280-A. Although Mr. SimiciCh has no intentions of further subdividing
or using lot ~2, Mr. Cuddy informed the board that he would not advise
his client to sign a covenant stating such. Because Mr. Simicich has
previously offered to dedicate 12½ feet to widen or exceed Camp Mineola
Road, the board suggested that this beaffixed to the map. A committee
was appointed to do a field inspection on this property and report
their findings to the board at the November 9, 1981 meeting.
The Cove - Mr. Turner and Lynn Edwards met with the board to discuss
the Building Inspector's report dated September 17, 1981. The commit-
tee gave~a report on the field inspection made on October 17, 1981. It
was noted that the existing dwellings do not conform with the footage,
as they require an additional 178 feet. They are used for seasonal
occupancy, each having their own electrical meter. Mr. Turner added
that he would like to add decks to the existing structures for extra
footage. The board informed Mr. Turner that a roof would have to-be
added to such a deck in order to meet the additional footage. The
board suggested that Mr. Turner have a conference with the Building In-
spector with regard to what he would permit and consider as a livable
area in the buildings. The Planning Board and the Building Inspector
will confer to determine parking needs. The board will review the file
of Crescent Beach, in East Marion, which is a similar proposal handled
by the ZBA.
Pharr/Nicholas Aliano minor subdivision - Mr. Richard Lark appeared
on behalf of his client, Pauline Pharr. It is their intention to ac-
quire the parcel of "B" zone for a toy business. Mr. Lark stated that
an effort to acquire the entire "B" portion was made with the owner,
Nicholas Aliano, to no avail.
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Pharr/Nicholas Aliano be processed
as a "set-off", section 106-13.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Honeysuckle Hills/Walter Gatz - Mr. Richard Lark submitted a letter
requesting consideration of amending number three of the Suffolk County
Planning Commission.
It was the concensus of the board to remain in agreement with the Suffolk
County Planning r~mm~d~n~ ~umh~ ~.~, "~±earlng and cutting cf
vegetation, particularly undergrowth, within 50 feet of the top edge of
the bluff shall be limited to that necessary for maintenance." on the
subdivision entitled "Honeysuckle Hills"
Edward Speeches - Mr. Rudolph Bruer, Esq. appeared on behalf of his
client to discuss this. proposal. The board informed Mr. Buuer that this
proposal has been sent to the Town Board for approval of the Cluster
Concept. Mr. Bruer was informed that a portion of this property may
not be suitable to build because of m~rsh area. Mr. VanTuyl stated
that the area in question is 2/10 of an acre. To exclude this area
would be equal to losing one lot. The board stated that the marsh
area must be excluded for a buildable
formed the board that he had contacted
and noted that this property has only
Burt property having a subdiuision of
that Speeches property should have a ~
Bruer stated objection as it would int
base. Mr. Lawrence Tuthill in-
the Superintendent of Highways
one entrance. In view of the
four lots, Mr. Tuthill suggested
oad connecting these areas. Mr.
erfer with lots to the South.
James Manos - Mr. Rudolph Bruer appeared on behalf of his client to
discuss R.O.W. determination. It was the concensus of the board to
refer this to the building inspector as it needs a 280-A
Grandview Estates - Mr. Lawrence Tuthill discussed his recommendations
and comments concerning this property ~ith the board (dated 9/28/81).
It was noted that Mr. Harold Reese complied with county recommendations
6/30/81 map, changing the triangular road layout to what appears in the
revised map of 9/14/81. The board agr%ed with the county to change the
road layout, as did the Superintendent of Highways. Mr. Tuthill re-
quests that a valley gutter be eliminated and replace with a catch basin.
He suggested that stairs be built so aS not to be destroyed by erosion.
Mr. Tuthill mentioned discrepencies in contours to be off by as much as
six or seven feet which creates much d~fficulty. The board suggested
that Mr. Tuthill submit his recommendations in writing and the board
will have them incorporated in the subdivision regulations if the
high and low areas create difficulty~ A decision on the fire well will
be subject to. the board and district fire department's determination.
A letter will be sent to Mr. Raymond Dean, Superintendent of Highways,
informing him of possible modifications in the field at the time of
construction.
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that Mr. Lawrence Tuthill submit to the Planning Board a bond
estimate for the major subdivision entitled "Grandview Estates" no
later than November 4, 1981.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor~ Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the board schedule a final hearing on the major subdivision
entitled "Grandview Estates", located at Orient
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. 4
10/i 9/Sl
Smith/Cart~r/Blanchard -
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the chairman be authorized to endorse approval on the
map entitled Smith/Carter/Blanchard~ located at Fishers Island, upon
receipt of the amended maps, which reflect a name change from Richard
A. Howard and Dorthea Howard to Richard A. Howard and Martha Howard.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Southold Marine Center Land Holding Corp. -
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Marine Center Land Holding Corp., located
at Southold, be processed as a single lot "set-off", 106-13
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Highland Estates - A committee was appointed to do a field inspection.
On motion made by Mr~ Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that CO's be issued for lots located at Highland Estates,
starting from the Main Road, North to include lots number 11 and 30,
with agreement of road inspection report 193.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept road inspection
report ~190 on the subdivision entitled "Samuel Prellwitz", located at
Peconic.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Bayview Farm - the board noted improvements on this property as stated
in the road inspection report #194.
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept the road inspector's
report ~192 on the subdivision entitled "George L. Penny IV", located
at Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
pg. (5) 10/19/8~~
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the chairman endorse approval on the subdivision maps
entitled "George L. Penny IV, located at $outhold, subject to the
approval of the Suffolk County Department of Health and compliance
with the road inspector's report ~192.
Vote of the board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ortowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept the road in-
spector's report 9192 on the subdivision entitled "Robert W. Johnson",
located at Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the chairman endorse approval on the subdivision maps
entitled Robert W. Johnson, located at Southold, subject to the
Suffolk County Department of Health approval and compliance with the
road inspector's report ~192.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the chairman endorse approval on the subdivision maps
entitled "George and Jane Toumanoff", located at Mattituck, subject
to Suffolk County Planning recommendations.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made-by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the chairman be authorized to endorse approval on the
subdivision maps entitled "Hilary P.ridgen", located at Laurel, sub-
ject to Suffolk County Planning recommendations and Suffolk County
Department of Health approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the subdivision of Edward and Kathryn Robedee, located
at Cutchogue be accepted under the Grandfather Act 106-53,and added
to the schedule.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Attorney be requested to draft a proper section
to be incorporated in the subdivision regulations for Health Depart-
ment Stamps to be placed on minor subdivision maps as a prerequisite
for Suffolk County Planning approval and Southold Town Planning Board
approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Fishers Island Maps - It was the concensus of the board to table
discussion on the Fishers Island Maps until the November 9, 1981 meet-
ing, as the Fishers Island board member was not present to discuss
possible problems concerning them.
On motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept final inspection
report #195 for the release of bond on the subdivision entitled
"Greton Estates", located at Mattituck.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the sketch
map on the minor subdivision entitled "Phebe Bridge Estate", located
at Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board reiterate their feel-
ings to the Town Board, in letter form, regarding areas in the Town
being designated two-acre lots, based on the studies of the water
tables and soils maps, possibly dividing Agricultural from Residential
and zoning it appropriately.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Cluster Development - The board discussed this subject. It was noted
that presently the towns of East Hampton and Southampton have extended
to the Town Boards the ability to use mandatory cluster as a tool on
subdivision regulations. Southold Town is presently under the aus-
p~c±ous of the Town Board for siting the cluster area~and only by the
will of the developer to entertain such a plan.
pg. 7 --- 10/19/81
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board request from the Town
Board, the option of entertaining a designated area for cluster
development.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Official Town Maps, road extension It was the concensus of the
board to agree with the proposed road extension, outlined in red- as
part of the official road map in Southold Town, thus allowing man-
datory cluster and preservation of farm land.
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board schedule their next
meeting November 9, 1981 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED that the Souhtold Town Planning Board approve the road in-
spection report ~197 on the subdivision entitled "Lloyd E. Terry",
located at Orient.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that William and Helen Robison, Appeal No. 2911, be granted
approval to separate premises into two parcels, Lots 917 and ~18,
on the subdivision map of Saltaire Estates.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that Dorothy~C. Fleet, Appeal No. 2907, be granted approval
to separate premises into two parcels, Lots #3 and ~4, on the subdiv-
ision map of Pequash Acres.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
George K. and Ellen R. Conant - It was the concensus of the board to
table this new proposed minor until the November 9~ 1981 meeting, as
the Fishers Island board member was not present to discuss its location.
Norman C. Boos - The field committee gave a report on this property,
noting that a majority of this area is marsh and in violation.
Jon Kerbs/Lakowitz - The field committee gave a report on this property.
It was noted the existing structures as being in poor condition and
question the feasibility of moving the dwelling from lot ~2 to lot ~4,
(as proposed). The structure did not appear to qualify as b~ing habit-
able. As a result, the board suggested that Mr. Kerbs meet with the
board at the November 9, 1981 meeting to discuss this matter further.
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. OrlQwski, it was
RESOLVED that Mr. John Lockwood be issued a refund in the amount of
$50.00, on the subdivision entitled "Mary Lockwood", due to with-
drawal of application before it was submitted to the Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Latham, Mullen, Orlowski
Being no further business to come before the board, Mr. Orlowski
made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Latham, and carried.
Meeting adjourned at 10:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan E. Long, Secretary
Henry ~/. Raynor, Jrt. Chair~n