HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-02/26/1981HENRY E. RAYNOR. /~r., Chairman
JAMES WALL
BENNETT ORLOWSKI. Jr.
GEORGE RITCHIE LATHAM. Jr,
William F. Mullen, Jr.
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Southold. N.Y. 11971
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A regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held
at 7:30 p.m., Thursday, February 26, 1981, at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
Present were:
Chairman Henry E. Raynor, Jr.
Member James Wall
Member Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Member William F. Mullen, Jr.
Ruth Oliva, North Fork Environmental Council
Arthur and Millicent Gossner, League of Women Voters
7:30 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of the approval of the final
map of the subdivision to be known as "Mount Beulah Acres" located at
Southold. William H. Price, Jr., Esq. appeared on behalf of the
applicant in place of Rudolph Bruer, Esq.
Mr. Raynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented proof of
publication in the Suffolk Weekly Times.
Mr. Raynor: Going through the file I have from the town engineer a
bonding amount in the amount of $20,000 for the proposed road of
Cosden Court. From this board is a negative declaration under the
State Environmental Quality Review Act. There is correspondence
from this board to the Superintendent of Highways, profiles of Cosden
Court, further correspondence: to Mr. Bruer, copy of the legal notice,
correspondence to the attorney, original recommendations from the
engineer, copies of correspondence, preliminary sketch maps,
correspondence to this board from the Suffolk County Planning
Commission, correspondence from the Department of Health Services.
"This Department has no objection to your designation as
lead agency. A precursory review of the above referenced
subdivision indicates problems may be encountered with
obtaining potable water due to high nitrate concentrations
and pesticide contamInation. In addition, special
consideration will have to be given to the sewage disposal
systems due to poor soils in the area."
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Mr. Raynor: There is more correspondence pertaining to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, receipts from the town clerk's
office in the amount of $70 and the application. As is the
procedure we will ask if there is anyone present this evening that
would like to speak in opposition to this proposed subdivision
entitled "Mount Beulah Acres". Hearing none, is there anyone
present this evening that would like to speak in favor of this
subdivision.
William H. Price, Jr., Esq.: I am an attorney from Greenport and of
counsel for Rudolph H. Bruer this evening. I am here to answer
whatever questions I might. However, I would like to point out in
regard to the ~epartment of Health Services statement regarding
the nitrate levels that I know that in other subdivisions they have
come to the conclusion that it is possible to treat certain nitrate
levels with filtraticn systems and should this come in over ten
parts per million that a condition will be placed on the map stating
that no dwelling shall be occupied prior to the potable water being
present.
Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone else that would like to speak in favor
of the proposed subdivision. Hearing none, is there anyone present
that would like to speak either pro or con for informational
purposes. Hearing none, is there any member of the board that has
any questions. Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Wall?
Ail answered in the negative.
Mr. Raynor: There being no other questions we will deem this hearing
closed and thank you for coming down this evening.
Robert Bayley minor subdivision. Robert Gillispie III appea~ed on
behalf of'Mr. Bayley. He has applied to the Zoning Board of Appeals
for approval of access to the subdivision. Mr. Raynor said the
policy of the board is to provide a 25 foot wide right-of-way
inside the subdivision. Mr. Gillispie stated the area is treed and
asked if they would have to clear the 25 fset. The inspector will
be sent out after approval of access has been obtained from the
Zoning Board of Appeals and he will make his recommendations to the
board. Mr. Bayley doesn't have control of the 700 feet going to
the property. The Planning Board will wait the decision of the
Zoning Board of Appeals.
On motion made by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED to set 8:00 p.m., Tuesday, March 17, 1981 at the Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a
public hearing on the question of the approval of the m~nor subdivision
of Smith/Carter/Blanchard located at Fishers Island.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
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motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Orlowski, it was
RESOLVED to approve the sketch map of the minor subdivision of
Genevieve L. Richards located at Arshamomaque, said map dated April
22, 1980 and amended January 21, 1981.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
8:00 ).m. Public Hearing on.the question of the approval of the
minos subdivision of Nina stevens located at Cutchogue. Richard
Cron Esq. appeared.
Mr. aynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented proof of
publication in the Suffolk Weekly Times.
Mr. Raynor: Going through the file, there is a resolution from this
board setting tonight as the date for the public hearing, a copy of
the 1Dgal notice, statement concerning grading, drainage and roads
filed by the applicant's attorney. There is a declaration of lead
agency status of this board on November 26th, correspondence from the
appli.~ant's attorney, short environmental assessment form, correspondence
from ~his board to the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation in regard to the State Environmental Quality Review Act
and more correspondence to this board. It is the policy of this board
to ask if there is anyone that would like to speak in opposition to
the proposed subdivision of Nina Stevens. Hearing none, is there
anyone present this evening that would like to speak in favor of the
subdivision.
Richard Cron, Esq.: Just simply, I believe all the requirements of
the board have been complied with and that the subdivision being
only a minor subdivision with more than sufficient area as required
by the zoning ordinance, I would respectfully request that the
board approve this as a minor subdivision.
Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone else present that would like to speak
in favor. Is there anyone present that has any information that
should come before this board at this time. Any action will be
subject to county recommendations which have not come back yet. For
some reason I can't find the building setback line.
Mr. Cron: For some reason it would appear it has not been put on
it. I think we had it on the major.
Mr. Raynor: When it was changed over somehow it wasn't put on.
We will need it on.
Mr. C~on: It should be no problem. I would support it.
Mr. Raynor: Mr. Wall, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, any
questions.
Ail answered in the negative.
Mr. Raynor: There being no questions we will declare this hearing
closed.
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Main Street Market parking plan. Provision for off-street parking
is the determination of the Planning Board in accordance with
Section 110-112 of the Code of the Town of Southold. The Board
shall determine what is reasonable and appropriate parking require-
ments. Mr. Raynor suggested that the entrance be at the Main Road
approximately 25 feet northeast of the corner of the building; that
the exist be only at the Main Road approximately 250 feet from the
intersection of Young Avenue and the Main Road; all remaining areas
along the Main Road be restricted for vehicular access; all truck
loading be on Youngs Avenue only with no car traffic from the south-
west corner of the building to Youngs Avenue. Mr. Orlowski did not
agree with the suggestion stating that this had not worked out at
Keyfood in Cutchogue. He suggested there be an alternate plan and
was asked by the chairman to bring his suggestions back to the next
meeting after an inspection of the property.
8:15 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of the approval of the
minor subdivision of Martha Husing located at Laurel. John McNulty,
Esq., appeared on behalf of the applicant.
Mr. Raynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented proof of
publication in the Suffolk Weekly Times.
Mr. Raynor: In the file we have description of the property,
correspondence from this board to the applicant's attorney setting
tonight for the hearing, copy of the legal notice, correspondence
from the applicant's attorney, applicant's attorney's statement
with regard to roa~s, drainage and grading, copy of applicant's
application, copy of State short environmental assessment form,
copies of correspondence from this board to the applicant's attorney
approving the sketch plan, correspondence from this board in regard
to the grading, correspondence from this board to the New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation in regard to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, more correspondenc~ going back
from the applicant's attorney with regard to the County Planning
Commission's requirements, some sketches. As is the procedure with
this board is there anyone present this evening that would like to
speak in opposition to the minor subdivision of Martha Husing.
Hearing none, is there anyone present this evening that would like
to speak in favor of the minor subdivision of Martha Husing.
Mr. McNulty: On behalf of the applicant, if the board pleases,
this is approximately a 75 acre parcel in Laurel running from the
Old Main Road to Peconic Bay Boulevard. Mrs. Husing proposes to
sell parcel 2 which contains 2.41 acres. As the board realizes,
under the requirements of the Town of Southold she must~obtain
approval from this board in order to sell off a parcel and that is
the purpose of the application. I will answer any questions if you
have any.
Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone else present this evening that would
l~ke to speak in favor of this minor subdivision. Is there anyone
that has any information that should come before this board this
evening at this hearin9~. Hearing none, the only thing that comes
to mind is because of the proximity of this parcel 2 to freshwater
wetlands the applicant should be advised that perhaps a Department
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of Environmental Conservation wetlands permit would be necessary.
has nothing to do with the subdivision but before you get started
you might find the problem. Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen,
Mr. Wall, do you have any questions.
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Mr. Wall: We are dealing with one and two. How come the coordinates
do not have to be read off and just distances are on the map?
Mr. McNulty: Under the Suffolk regulations according to the
document that said you can prepare a map of the larger parcel from
the tax map. We went through this thing and to survey it~with
courses and distances would cost the applicant around $1,000 and
we checked with Van Tuyl and they checked it and a large parcel like
this this is acceptable to the County Planning Commission and the
cost is nominal.
Mr. Raynor: Is there anyone else. Hearing none, I will deem this
hearing closed.
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to set 8:15 p.m., Tuesday, March 17, 1981, at the Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a
public hearing on the question of the approval of the minor
subdivision of Reynold F. Blum and William A. Littel] located at
Cutchogue.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
On motion made by Mr. Orlowski, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED to set 8:45 p.m., Tuesday, March 17, 1981, at the Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a
public hearing on the question of the approval of the minor
subdivision of Peconic Bay Gardens located at Peconic.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
Fishers Island Development Corporation. Mr. Richard Baker has
sent to the Board information on lots which were subdivided on the
old deeds but shown as one block on the 1929 Olmsted map. Mr. Wall
will request maps from the FIDCO people showing these divisions.
Edward Booth cluster subdivision. Mr. Booth will be requested to
have a survey made up showing two foot contours so that the board
can determine land subject to flooding not to be used as a base for
lots in the cluster.
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8:45 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of the approval of the
preliminary map of the subdivision to be known as "Grand View
Estates" located at Orient. Harold Reese appeared before the
board.
Mr. Raynor read the legal notice of hearing and presented proof
of publication in the Suffolk Weekly Times.
Mr. Raynor: Looking through the file we have the recommendations
from the tcwn engineer under date of February 20th, correspondence
from this board to the applicant stating it is lead agency, further
correspondence from this board stating the resolution for this
hearing tonight, legal notice of hearing, check from the applicant
in the amount of $260 along with the application, more recommendations
from the town engineer, correspondence from the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services.
"Your application has been denied by the General Engineering
office because there is an inadequate water supply (less than
40 feet of potable water in the well casing). In addition,
test well Number 3 contains nitrates in excess of the present
drinking water standards (11.2 mg/1).
"A review of your case has been scheduled at the County Center
building, Riverhead, in the Suffolk County Department of
Health Services Conference Room 2nd floor, North Wing, on
January 29, 1981, at 1:30 p.m.
"You and interested parties may appear with or without consel
and you may produce any information or evidence concerning
the above referenced subdivision."
There is a resolution giving this application sketch plan approval
December 29th. That pretty much completes the file. As is the
procedure with this board is there anyone present this evening that
would like to speak in opposition to the subdivision of Grand View
Estates located at Orient. Hearing none, is there anyone present
this evening that would like to speak in favor. Hearing none, is
there anyone present this evening that has any information that should
come before the board at this time.
Mr. Reese: The Highway Department made several recommendations.
At a meeting yesterday they made several more recommendations.
They were submitted to Mr. Dean this morning and he said he would
approve the maps.
Secretary: Mr. Dean called the office and said everything was in
conformance with what the highway department wanted.
Mr. Raynor: I was under the impression that this was settled.
Mr. Reese: On the spur road of 60 feet we thought perhaps because
the road doesn't go anywhere that just a right-of-way be granted
to eliminate a lover's lane for bottles and so forth.
Mr. Raynor: We will take that into consideration. Mr. Reese, is
there anything else that you have that should come before us.
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On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Wall, it was
RESOLVED to approve sketch map dated August 25, 1.970 and amended
December 9, 1980 of the minor subdivision of property of the John
Simon Estate located at Peconic subject to the right-of-way being
shown 25 feet wide and suitable for all weather conditions, the
surface being graded smooth (ruts filled, etc.) and 6 inches of
compacted bankrun sand and gravel (gravel to be 20%) placed for
a width of 12 feet.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
On motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board bond estimate
prepared by Lawrence M. Tuthill, Town Engineer, in the amount of
$20,000 for the roads and improvements in the subdivision to be
known as "Mount Beulah Acres" located at Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
Edward Booth cluster. Mr. Booth appeared at this time. He was
informed that the board would like a survey with two foot
elevations to determine .what land would be subject to flooding.
There seems to be a problem with some of the p~operty and the
board wants to take a better look at it.
On motion made by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED to set 8:30 p.m., Tuesday, March 17, 1981 at the Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place for a
public hearing on the question of the approval of the minor
subdivision of Donald P. Robinson, Dorothy R. Binns and Marion R
Mears located at Cutchogue.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Raynor, Wall, Orlowski, Latham, Mullen
New highway specifications were hand delivered to the Board office
this afternoon by Deputy Superintendent of Highways Raymond Jacobs.
A copy was given to each member of the board and Mr. Raynor requested
the board to study same and make any recommendations and comments at
the next meeting.
Harbor Lights, Section IV. The turnaround has been shown on the
maps and it was the consensus of the board that the maps were now
alright and Mr. Reese can draw up the final maps to be presented to
the board for the final hearing.
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Mr. Reese: Ail the conditions, to the best of my knowledge, have
been complied with.
Mr. Raynor: Grand View Estates is a corporation?
Mr. Reese: No, a partnership and all the principles are listed.
Mr. Raynor: Ronald, Christine and Harold Reese, Jr.?
Mr. Reese: Yes.
Mr. Raynor: We needed that because it doesn't show on the map and
we needed it for the hearing. Any questions, Mr. Orlowski, Mr.
Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Wall?
Ail answered in the negative.
Mr. Raynor: If there is no other business we will deem this hearing
closed.
George Penny IV minor Subdivision of property of Hahn on Soundview
Avenue, Southold. Mr. Johnson appeared with Mr. Penny. Mr. Penny
distributed maps to the board members. This is a six acre parcel
owned by Mr. Hahn. Mr. Penny has a letter from Mr. Hahn in whic~
Mr. Hahn gives Mr. Penny authority to act in his behalf as regards
this subdivision. Mr. Penny will send the letter to the board.
This property was split before but is now in Mr. H~hn's possession.
Mr. Penny's future plans are to divide each parcel into three
parcels. Mr. Raynor said the property would have to be inspected
with respect to any type of cross-street that might be needed.
The first step is the subdivision into two parcels.
Sebastian's Cove. The recommendations of Jack Davis regarding the
stone-lined gutter and so forth were reviewed. The stone-lined
gutter will require a waiver from the Planning Board and approval
of that waiver from the Highway Committee. Because three of the
members of the board have not had an opportunity to inspect this
site Mr. Raynor decided an inspection should be made. The date
decided upon was March 10th at 2 p.m.
Shipyard Lane E. M. Kontokosta property. Mr. Raynor feels the
marina running so far north poses a problem of salt water
intrusion. Mr. Kontokosta said he was willing to revise it to
an L-shapeto minimize any effect there may be on the ground water.
Mr. Raynor will draft a letter to go to the Zoning Board of
Appeals in answer to its request for comments regarding this
project.
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Honeysuckle Hills. Mr. Lark appeared. He has written a letter
objecting on behalf of Mr. Gatz to some of the conditions laid
out by the Suffolk County Plannin~ Commission which the Planning
Board has adopted in its resolution approving the subdivision.
Mr. Gatz will come before the board at the April 6th meeting to
explain his objection. Mr. Lark said Mr. Gatz wanted to clear
out the poison ivy and honeysuckle bushes and MY. Raynor said that
would be in the way of maintenance. The new plans for the stairs
will be submitted to Mr. Tuthill for his approval.
There being no further business to come before the board,
Mr. Orlowski made a motion, seconded by Mr. Latham and carried to
adjourn. Meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
~enry E. ~nor, Jr.~, ;hairm~f