HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-07/09/1984A regular
7:30 p.m.,
Southold.
Present weI
Bennett Or]
Williaml F.
G. Ritchie
James Wall
Richard G.
Victor Lest
James Brye~
7:30 p.m.
subdivisior
On a motio~
RESOLVED tX
reading of
Building ~
VOte
Mr. OrlOwsk
signed by
of publica~
notorized ~
of the ~ilE
communi~atJ
saying ~ha~
everything
one here wJ
none) I~ ar
Hearing nor
~ertai~ng
n? (hea~
Mr_ MuIle~
Mr. Latham:
acres?
Mr. OrlOws~
Mr. Latham:
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So~h~d,N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
~eting of the Southold Town Plannin~ Board was held at
~onday, July 9· 1984 at the Town Hall, Main Road
wski, Jr. Chairman
~ullen, Jr. Member
5atham, Jr., Member
Member
~ard, Member
~rd, Executive Administrator
Town Planner
'ublic hearing on the question of approval of the minor
of Randazzo Building Company, located at Southold.
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Wall it was
~t the Southold Town Planning Board dispense with the
~he metes and bou'nds of the subdivision of Randazzo
~any, located at Southold, containing 11.2 acres.
the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Wall
: We have proof of publication from the Sufoolk Times
~san Allen, and notorized by Judith Ahrens, and proof
ion from the Long Island Traveler ~atchman signed by,
~ Barbara Forbes· and signed by Pat Wood. In review
· filing fee, Short Environmental Assessment Form,
Dns from the Suffolk County Department of Planning
it is not within their jurisdiction, and I think
else here is in order. Ok, at this time is there any
th objections to this minor subdivision? (hearing
lone here with any endorsements of this minor subdivision?
_, is anyone here neither pro nor con but information
~o the minor subdivision that the Board maybe interested
~g none) That was an e&s~ ~he. Questions from t~e~arc,
(none) Mr. wa.I~I?~none) Mr.~Latham?
Only one question_ Mr. Chairman, Lot 4 is 4.10
: Yes.
We don't want to have that chopped up any more.
Mr. OrlOws~i: Right.
pg(2) ~ 7/9/84
Mr. Latham: That is all.
Mr. Orl~ws~
Mr War~?(~
any app~ovs
Latham, ths
questions,
Ricketts se
question as
since the s
Lots D and
that a new
delineating
that a key
Southland C
and Greenpc
it was the
buildings k
on the side
leanto coul
than the ut
storage.
Young locat
consisting
following a
be develope
lots. It w
developing
favor the
Gemma site
was the con
.: Right, I was going to mention that. Okay,
~ne) Okay, with no further questions. I think
that would be given would be subject t~ Mr.
lot No. 4 not be further subdivided. No further
will declare this hearing closed.
-off' located at Mattituck- The Board had a
to~ the number of lots proposed by the applicant,
[rvey indicated Lots No. 69 and 70, as well as,
:. It was the consensus of the Board to request
:urvey be submitted to clarify the lots by clearly
lot No. 1 and Lot No. 2. The Board also requests
nap be indicated on the survey.
)rporation (7-11 stores located at Cutchogue, Southold,
~t~- Following a field inspection to each of the sites,
~onsensus of the Board that the proposed accessory
located in the rear of the stores rather than
of the buildings. It was also suggested that a
be constructed in the rear of the stores rather
[lity building proposed in order to provide more
~d at Eugenes Rowdy .Cutchogue: A~cluster proposal
)f 22 acres. It was the c~nsensus of the Board,
field inspection, that this subdivision should
as a major subdivision instead of clustering the
~s the feeling that there would be no advantage to
~his in the cluster concept, and the Board did not
~yout.
)lan for a restaurant, located at Cutchogue: It
~ensus of the Board, following a field inspection,
that the in~ress and egress should be more centrally positioned
on the lot Ind at right angles, with., the Main Road.
Litterri an
Boardh~d r
do a fi01d
to the ~rop
in the ~rou
be put in,
7:45 p.~. P
subdivision
Gazza subdivision located at East Marion: The
~quested that the applicants stake the property to
inspection. Boardmember Ritchie Latham had gone
~rty and noted that the stakes had not been pieced
~d and it was suggested that perhaps metal pipes
~o they could not be easily removed.
~blic hearing on the question of approval of the ~nor
of Charles S. Witherspoon located at Southold.
~ ~ pg (3) A 7/9/84
Mr. Or,owe]
was anjapu~
never ~iler
letter bac]
us: Y~u h~
above ~ubd:
the Planni]
Planning Be
that the a!
of Covenant
Witherspomi
benot furl
declaratioi
requested ]
been t~ken
developmen~
lot size o~
best proce¢
hearing fo]
after appr(
that a new
conditions
agreed to (
again. Ok~
Times sign~
and also p~
Watchman s2
On a motio~
RESOLVED ti
reading of
Charles S.
Vote of th~
Mr. Orl'ows>
because we'
be givea w~
covenants
1979. At
from th~ f
this subdi%
i: This has quite a history behind it because it
oved subdivision, and everything was done, but he
with the Count~ so we wrote Mr. Tasker and got a
from Mr. Tasker and here is what Mr. Tasker told
ve submitted information to me with respect to the
vision which also granted conditional approval by
g Board on June 12, 1979. The condition in the
ard's resolution granting final approval provided
plicant file with the Plannmng Board a Declaration
s and Restrictions to the effect that the remianing
property to the west of the two lot minor subdivision
her subdivided. The applican'ts attorney filed a
. However, it did not explicitly contain the
estriction. Apparently, no further action has
by the Planning Board. The zoning Code permits the
of the lots on the m~nor subdivision with a minimum
40,000 sq. ft. It would appear to me that the
ure is for the Planning Board to schedule a new
the final approval of the subdivision, and there
ve the same with the same Conditions and then require
declaration be prepared and filed to contain the
required by the Planning Board. The applicant has
o all of this, so here we are, back to a final hearing
y, ~w we have proof of publication from the Suffolk
d by Susan Allen and notorized by Judith A~ Ahrens,
oof of publication from the Lon~ Island Traveler
gned by Pat Wood and notorized by Barbara Forbes.
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
~t the Southold Town Planning Board dispense with the
themetes and bounds for the minor subdivision of
~itherspoon located at Southold.
Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
[: Well, we know that we have everything in order
ve done this once already, and any approval that will
11 be an approval subject to the filing of the
nd restrictions that were placed on it way back in
his time, I'll ask'for any objections to this Subdivision
oor. Hearing none, I'll ask for any endorsements of
ision.
of
Mr. Presto~ I would like to speak in favor~it. I have lived up
at Horton'~ Point for the last 8 years and I have somewhat of
an inte~ms~ in seeing the subdivision passed in that I am the
contract o~ligee f~ the western most lot. The only Point that
I would Ii~ to bring up is that the original covenants and
restrictior
Witherspoor
Witherspoor
of Charles
1,003 s~.
would h~ve
and it is
with, curre
Witherspoor
obtainiag
are deallin
were to eliminate the possibility of Charles
ever subdividing his ~operty again and Charles
has passed away and I am dealing with the estate
Yitherspoon; and we ~e dealing with a parcel
· in size which I think you would agree that it
to come before the Planning Board to be sibdivided
~t a 2-acre size. It is a small peice of property
atly with a former personal residence of Charles
and their rented cottage. The difficulty in
he covenants and restrictions exists in that~
with an estate and they seem to be difficult
pg (4) <_~ 7/9/84
Mr. PrestoI
propert~ w~
communicatJ
property pt
whateve~ h~
we have a
formal app]
four years
so that if
of difficu[
approvals.
Mr. Orlows}
work withtt
Town Attor~
Mr. Presto~
Mr. Or 1 ows)
covenants
Mr. Presto~
of propert]
the remian~
that piece
Mr. Orlows]
Mr. Presto!
Mr. Orlows}
on there.
want to get
restrictio~
in the est~
Mr. Presto~
Mr. Orlows]
questions
Mr. Wall
questions,
Raz-Ma~Taz
inspection
many discr~
1. Ther~
2. ~her{
3. ~rai~
and ~
to communicate with. This is a case were the
originally sold to Rathje in 1979 pending the oral
,n with the Planning Board of the approval. The
;~sed onto Mr. Rathje, he held it for investment for
reasons were, he has.now offered it for sale and
ontract and he was not aware that he did not have a
ov~t of the property. He pays his taxes for the
as if he had a marketable piece of property, and
it is of any consideration of the Board it is kind
t to deal with the estate in trying to get these
[: Right, well, we are going to have to do that and
e estate to get them as per Mr. Tasker'sletter, our
ey. We...(Interrupted)
: Even though it is less than the two acres?
i: He says it is all right, as long as we get the
nd restrictions filed.
No, I mean the parcel is an undivided peice
the covenants and restrictions served to keep
.g property from being further subdivided. But
of property ms less than two acres.
i: Right.
: How could it be subdivided again?
i: Well, we don't know, we just want the covenants
Unless zoning changes or something else, but we don't
into that, we just,~ the original covenants and
s will have to come out of the estate or somebody
te will work with us. And, it will be subject to.
: Okay.
i: Okay. Any other endorsements? (Hearing None)
rom the Board, Mr. Ward, (none), Mr. Mullen (none),
one), Mr. Latham, (none). Okay, being no further
I will declare this hearing closed.
site plan located at Mattituck: Following a field
of the property and one-year review, the Board n~ted
pancies in the site plan:
is no dust free surface in the parking lot.
are insufficient plantings.
age appears to go through Mr. Crenshaws' property
n to the Main Road.
4. ~s y~t, no leased has been secured with Mr. Crenshaw as
~o t~e additional parking.
5. ~est~rly exit has not beenblocked off.
6. We, q~estion of the sign.
Based on tRe following information, the Planning Board recommends
Raz-Ma-Taz
that
De'
/~ pg (5) ~9/84
~ificate of occupancy be ~ssued by the Building
~or the recent addition.
esq.
uses
Plannii
on lot
the skc
No. 1
said it
extabl~
that a~
laundrc
cata(
the thc
The
had bec
the aPt
that
The Bo~
The Bo~
populat
use of
to the
since
of
of the
spaces
for
tith set-off located at Peconic: Mr. Philip Ofrias,
,resent to review the ~rking requirements of the
. No. 1 with t~e Board~ Since this matter is also
ore the Board of Appeals for an area variance, the
,ard had made recommendation for 24 parking spaces
t, due to all the uses on the lot. The Board reviewed
Mr. Ofrias had presented indicating 14 spaces on lot
were 100' X 200'. The Board had determined the
)aces required based on the Section of the ordinance
to retail shopping centers. (100-62) Mr. Ofrias
his opinion that this section is for large retail
nts which this business is not. The Board stated
uses of Lot 1, namely a Post Office, grocery store,
and storage space do not put this clearly into any
)re, the Board can use their, discretation as
of spaces required. They fiqured it as one
.ce for everyvsq. ft. of sales or office area.
100
~oted that upon field inspections, both lots 1 and 2
[sed for parking . Mr. Ofrias stated that he did not know
intention for the storage, but it was possible
ould be used for an apartment at some future date.
~oted that this would then requzre additional parking.
~xpressed concern that the area ~s becoming more
.nd growing, so this will ~ncrease traffic and the
buildings. The Board offered other suggestions
,rney rather th~n proceding wi~h the proposed subdivision,
~oard is not in favor of it due to the small szze
and the parking problem. It was the consensus
~at the original determination of 24 parking
lot No. I will be the Planning Board's recommendation
'king requirement.
Dro
site plan for a Doctor's Office located at Mattituck:
Mrs. Gaiil
that t~is
oard
approv~i w
handicappe
road, ~rs
required a
space ~ill
s%ated~ha
inform~tic
ickham and Dr. Mercier were present. It was noted
pplication received a use variance from the Zoning
peals. The Chairman read the Board of Appeals
ich contained conditions. The Board had questioned
parking, access to the parking, and the private
WiCkham stated that since 8 parking spaces are
d the map indicates 9 speces, the western most
be reserved for ~ndicapped parking. She further
the parking can come off Love Lane, and presented
for the file indicating Dr. Mercier's right over
the private
On a motion
RESOLVEDItha
plan of Dr.
office in an
for certific
Vote of
Stegner loca
present, and
explained th
with the und
They were, h
received~app
Suffolk Coun
of Appeals w
what would b
a right'of-
of the well
He also said
Pg.
(6)
7/9/84
~oad.
lade by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Wall it was
the Southold Town Planning Board refer the site
ercier, located a't Mattituck, for aprofeesional
existing building to the building department
[tion.
;he Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Wall
:ed at Southold- Mr. Rudolph Bruer, esq. was
Mr. and Mrs. Stegner were also present. Mr. Bruer
it the Stegners had purchased three separate lots
~rstanding that they were separate and single lots.
~wever, merged. Mr. Bruer stated that they had
~oval from the Department of Environmental Conservation,
;y Department of Health Services, and Zoning Board
.th respect to this application. The Board questioned
~ built on lot ~2 which is indicated on the survey as
ray. Mr. Bruer stated that that would be the location
Lnd there would be nothing else built on that lot.
that the house will be built on Lot No. 1. Mr. Bruer
requested that this application be handled as a set-off since
there was already a public heariD~efore the Board of Appeals.
he Board stated that they would,new maps indicating Lot No. 1
and Lot No. ~ as one lot, as well as conditions that the right-of
way will remgin as ~the access. It was the consensus of the Board
that this cai be handled as a set-off, however, the Board will
chec witch t e Town Attorney prior to any action on this application.
0 ~
n a motion ~ade by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. MUllen it was
RESOLVED .tha~ the Southold Town Plan~ing Board refer the site plan
of Goldsmith~and Tuthill for construction of the office and
storage buil
for certific.
Vote of
.ing, located at Southold to the Building Department
.tion.
.he Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Wall
ted at Fishers ~iand-Following certification from
Department with regard to the site plan the following
ken.
lade by Mr. Wall, seconded by Mr. Mutlen it was
the Southold Town Planning Board approve the site
,ny Marshall for the relocation of a building located
t Fishers Island.
.he Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Wall
Marshall loc
the Building
action was t~
On a motion
RESOLVED tha
plan of Anth,
in a B z~ne~
Vote of
382. We!t~ Re
co~respobder
site pia~ f¢
is neede~pz
Board th~t ~
tha~ it
alSo Sai~ ~
Conservation
before anYt~
pg. (7) ~ 7/9/84
kd Corp. located at Southold- The Board reviewed
~e from the Building Department regarding this
~ a car wash. It was noted that more information
£or to certification. Mr. Lessard informed the
had made an inspection of the area and noted
[illed , approximately 4' in depth. Mr. Lessard
~t he called the Department of Environmental
and they indicated that it could be five years
£ng could be built on the land. He also said
if the Pilannling Board does not send out anyone to look at
the property~ for a professional ~'opinion, the Building Department
Will, becaus~ he is concerned with this. The Chairman stated
that he woul~ like another opinion on this matter from the
Town EngineeI] . it was the consensus of the Board that the
Town Engines ~ will be contacted to make an inspection of the
property and report back to the Board, with regard to the fill.
Brewer Ygcht ~rd located at Greenport: ~an Natchez, Ed vianneY[
andMark~Ta~o'mina were present for this presubmission conference, ~ -
I t~D discuss this site plan for the construction of
a new dock a ~d bulkhead. It was noted that the applicant must
obtain apprc zals from the Village of Greenport as well as the
Town due to zhe fact that a portion of the project lies in the
incorporated village of Greenport. Other approvals needed
are: Army C)rps of Engineers, NY State Department of State,
NY Dstate De)artment of Environmental Conservation, Town Trustees,
Town Board, ~nd Village of Greenport. Mr. Natchez stated that
this propose ~ const.ruction is to enlarge the present marina
which wo~.ld include, exacavating a boat basin, removing
timber pile, con structing and maintaining a timber bulkhead,
relocating a ~d expanding a travelift, constructing, installing
and main~ian~ng a series of floating pier docks, dredging and
then rel0cat~ng this dredged material. The Board queS-~tioned
where the dr~dged material would be relocated and the applicant
said that s~me will be placed on-site and the remainder will
be go to St.~Agnes Cemetary, as they have expressed an interest
in recieving this. Mr. Natchez also,resented an aerial map
indicating t ~e l~nd,which is a penninsula. Mr. Natachez explained
that they ha ! received correspondence (which was submitted to
the Boar~)st ~ting that H2M, consulting engineers, did not feel
that the der lopment of the marina will not have an negative
effect on th fresh water supply, since the proposed evacuation
is on a penn ~ns~-Aa. They stated that the dredge material would
consist Of g.~avel and sand which is fill material. Mr. Ward
qnestion~d ~ ~e -aes%h-ics -of ~ ~ placi~ng 'thins~ '~f~i 11. in~ t~he. cemetary and
Mr. Nata~hez stated that this would be placed So i~'will look
aesthetidall~ pleaseing and some areas would be grassed, which would
be done ~y.B 'ewers. Mr. Bryer stated that in his review it was
noted that t 'o datums were used, mean sea level and mean low water.
Mr.~ Taor~ina stated that the maps would have to be revised and
re-submitted ~to show the same datum on all maps. It was not~d,
upon review f the aerial maps that this lies outside the Federal
Channel ~rea~ With regard to parking, Mr. Natchez stated tha't there
is a 1 t~ 1 ~atio with 1 parking space for each slip. It was the
consensu~ of/the Board that the DEC should take lead agency for this
application ~nd prior to any further action by the Board, a field
i~specti~n w~ll be made.
pg. (8) 7/9/84
On a motion
RESOLVED~th
Town Board
Moller d~e
prior to May
Vote
ade by Mr. Mullen
seconded by Mr~ Latham it was
It was t~e c~ ~sensus of the Bo
transpired b~ tween the applica
to the Town] oard for their co
petition.
On a motion ~de by Mr. Muller
RESOLVED th~
Board the ch~
Shores subdi~
did work dil
approval of
Board's revi
Vote of
Hemblow-set-
a field ins
Sundown Far~
a field insp
Blum-C~ange.
Chain,-an abs
as his famil
On a motion
RESOLVE~ tha
a change/of
field inspec
vote of
Bertani
inspection,
request.
the Southold Towi~ Planning Board recommend to the
nial of the relie ' petition of John and Dorothy
the fact that they did not receive sketch approval
20, 1983 .
of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham , Wall, Ward
~rd that the copy of events which
~t and the Planning Board~be referred
~sideration with regard to this releif
seconded by Mr. Latham it was
the Southold Tow Planning Board refer to the Town
ononlogical list ~f events pertaining to the Angel
· s~on application which indicates that the applicant
igently with the ~Lanning Board in an effort to obtain
.his subdivision. This referral is made for the Town
w in regard to th relief petition filed.
the Board: Ayes: Drlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward.
~ff located at Southold-This proposal was set for
~ection.
-located at Mattituck. This proposal was set for
~ction o
f zone petition o the Town Board. Bennett Orlowski,
~ained from all d~scussion with regard to this application
~ owns the area w~ich is the subject of this petition.
~ade by Mr. Lath~m, seconded by Mr. Wall it was
the Southold To%nPlanning Board set the proposal for
:one for Reynold Blum located at Cutchogue for a
~ion.
the Board: Ayes: Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
~d: Orlowski
~oke site plan located at Southold: Following a field
~he Board reviewed this site plan and made the following
Pg- (@) ~_i~ 7/9/84
Bertaini and
It was t~e c
followin~ in
to the i~for
1. typ
2. typ
3. sig
4. out
5. one
It was also
handle sotrm
If this is u
proposed gra
On a motion
RESOLVED ths
map of Laure
1. The
2. Lot
3. Lay
pro
4. Pur
par
Vote of
Koke Cont.
)nsensus of the Planning Board to request that the
~ormation be indicated on the site plan in addition
lation already on the plan.
of curbing
of driveway and parking surfaces
location
Dor lighting
or two handicapped parking spaces.
~oted that one or two drainage basins may be required to
water run-off if there is no substantial change in grade.
~acceptable, the Board requests drainage computations and
[e to show the feasibility of one basin.
lade by Mr. Wa~d, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
the Southold Town Planning Board approve the preliminary
Estates located at Laurel subject to the following conditions:
~luster computations indicated on the map.
dimensions indicated on the map for lots 1-15.
~ut plan for the development of Lot 16 including a
Posed street tie-in to Aldrich Lane.
ose of Open Space area and indication as to why the
el is landlocked.
the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen,Latham, Wall, Ward
On a motion _lade! by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward it was
RESOLVED tha~ the Southold Town Planning Board set July 30, 1984
at 7:30 p.m.|at the Southold Town Hall as the next regular meeting
of the P~ann~ng Board. '
Vote of|the BoardY Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
On a motion ,ade by Mr.Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED tha the Southold Town Planning Board rescind the resolution
of June ~5, 984 declaring themselves as the lead agency with regard
to the s~ate Environmental Quality Review Act for the Seacroft site
plan located at Cutchogue.
vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wall, Ward
pg. (10) f~ 7/9/84
On a motion
RESOLVED th.
plan of 'TThe
the construc
amenities 1°,
certificatio:
Vote of
Mr. Troy Gus'
information:
lots propose~
the office,
Lade by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Wall it was
the Southold Town Planning Board refer the site
Breakers at Island's End" dated June 28, 1984, for
ion of 350 townhouse/condominium dwellings and
ated at Greenport to the Building Department for
the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Wall
avson questioned if the agenda could contain more
uch as the locat±on of parcels, size and number of
The Chairman stated that with additional help in
here might be a possiblity of complying with his request.
Mrs. Ruth O
~'Breakers at
have agreed
bluff and ha
are in exces:
road, landsc~
stated that
for applica]
is entailed
being isssue(
Mr. Multen
insurance fo:
It was the
certificate
Being no fur
made by Mr. ~
meeting adjo~
~e~ne tt 0rlb~
1 va brought up the matter of the set backs for the
Island End" The Chairman stated that the developers
o a maintenance bond on the upkeep of vegation on the
e also positioned the building envelopes so that many
of 100' set-back. Mrs. Oliva also questioned the
ping and curbing at Grandview Estates. The Chairman
he Board and the inspector were working on procedures
ts and developers so that they know exactly what
n completing roads prior to buiding permits and C/O's
uestioned the errors and ommissions certificate of
the Town Planning Firm, Szepatowski Associates, Inc.
asensus of the Board to request a copy of such
rom the Town Clerk.
her business to come before the Board, on a motion
ullen, seconded by Mr. Ward and carried, the
rned at 10:00 p.m.
;ki, Jr~,~ ~hairman
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
%/'iE SOUTHOLD TO%VN C, LE~
Town ~er~ To~ ol ~uthold