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Southold, N.Y. 11971
(516) 765-1938
A regu-lar m~eting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held
at 7:30 p.m., Monday May 21, 1984 at the Town Hall, Main Road
Southold,
Present wer~:
Bennett Orlgwski, Jr. Chairman
William F. ~uilen, Jr., Member
G. Ritchie Latham, Jri., Member
Richard War~, Member
Victor Less&r~, F/xecuti~e ~dministrator
Dave Emilit~ Town-Planner
James Bryerr Assistant Town Planner
The Chairmar
Bryer, who ~
for subdivi:
7:30 p.m.
introduced the new assistant Town Planner, Jim
ill be inthe Planning Board three days a week
ion and site plan review.
blic hearing on the question of a~proval of the final
~aps of the
~t.SQuthold.
On a motion
RESOLVED th;
the reading
of ConstantJ
aa~or subdivision of Constantine
aade by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
t the $outhol. d Town Planning Board dispense with
of the metes and boun'ds for the major subdivision
ne Georgiopolous.
Vote of
Mr. Orlowsk
and we also
he Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latha~, Wall, Ward
:We have proof of publication of the Suffolk Times,
have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler
Watchman. in review~ing the file, we have the filing fee, pass
these maps ~ut. We have comments from the DEC, we have CmOa~nts
from the B~ rd of fire commissioners,a decision has been
that one well he necessary to obtain sufficient water for
proper proteCtion Purposes, we have a letter going over to'
the Town Board requesting the amount of the park and playground
fee. They will meet tomorrow and we will have the answer back
on.that, any approval will be subject to receiving that fee.
Mr. Orlowsk
else seems.~
to this maj~
Ruth Oliva:
Mr. Orlowsk~
Mrs. Oliva:
Mr. Orlowsk
Mr. Latham:
Mr. Orlowsk
Mr. Latham:
pg (2) -'~ 5/21/84
.: 'We have SEQRA action taken by"the TOwn, everything
:o be in order· At this'timerI- will ask for any objections
)r subdivision. Ruth?
May I ask, the'y do have County Board of Health approval?
.: They do?
I am asking you.
.: Okay, any approval'will be made su]
They do have it, it is on the map.
.: ls it on the map, Ritch?
Yes.
Mrs.Oliva: Thais is not an objection of the tota
for the Boal'd of Directors of the'NFEC and for M~
there, Postis, W~ Richters and I believe about
We all do net object to the project as it is, bu~
that eight ots are 'just too many, it is a swale
as you all now, Peconic Dunes camp is just a cox
whole area o the East. You ~anff~nd such plant~
milkweed an cranberries, the ~ild cranberries wt
)ject to.
project, I speak
· Kosamotis down
two other peoPle.
we do.~-think
area, which is
tinuation of that
in there as swamp
.ich grow in the
boggy area. There is a-problem with drainage~on the lots to the
West, I be.l~eve that is 7 and 8 because that lies in a puddle of
water, probablY because of the clay underneath it. I understand~
that during_ this latest storm that most of that property was
underwater
~o it Was going 'to require ~uite 'a bit of filling, therefore
we would hope that the Board wi'lf t~ke-'note of this and perhaps '
make a 4-5 lots instead of~ eight lots, which I hope you think
will be more feasible. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski:
Thank you. Is there anybody else who has objection
to this majqr subdivision? Hearing none. Is there in favor of
this major ~ubdivision. '
Ms. Wickham~~ Yes, Abigail Wickham. i would like to sgeak on
behalf
t~e applicant, the Georgiopolouses, who are hear tonight.
of
This subdivision has been pending as'you know for over two year~,
it consists Of 8 one0acre l°ts in a neighborhood that consists
primarily o~ half-acre 10ts so the lots'are already considerably
larger thanjthe surrounding property.. The Board of Health has...
The Board o~ Health Services endorsed its approval On the map,
the maps have been reviewed by the highway department, the conservation
advisory counsel, the fire commissiongr and a~lo the Suffolk CountY
Planning Comnission. There has been a negative SEQR determination,
and the whol~ subdivision has been subject to extensive review over
the past two years and I can't see that an%need for any change be
forthcoming ~t this time. Lots 2 and 8 have been subject to a
building envelope concept in order to avoid the necessity of
variances d~o~n the road wren building is made on these properties,
and the Boar~ has also reviewed the park and. condition and has
waived that in lieu of a $10,000 deposit certainly any flooding
or anything Df that nature will be handled by not only flood
plain elevation if that does apply or any type of building precautions
I think ther~ were quite a number of properties underwater
recently and that s~ouldn't be a concern of the Board by itself.
Thank'you.
pg (3) .... 5/21~84
Mr. OrlowskJ
will com~ u~
Mrs. WickhaI
discuss tha~
: Yes, on that park and playground, the Town Board
~with~'~he fee.
I understand'that, but the Planning Board did
figure sometime ago.
Mr. Orlowsk~.: Yes, but we have a regular formula written right
into the code that the Town Board will have to come up with,
they are responsible for that.
Mrs. Wickha : B~t'~-e Planni~:Bo~r~-h~d.re~iewed_it a~d ~ ~
sent that cOntrac~ and what not and they came u~ w~th a fee
of $10,000.
Mr. Orlowsk$: Well, we will see what the Board says tomorrow
They are meehingtomorrow and we will have 'that. Is there anyone
else in favor? (no response) Is there anyone neither pro nor
con but that has any information pertaining to this subdivision
that would be of interest to the Board at this time. Hearing
none, I wil!ask ques%ionsof the Board Mr. Mullen(no questions);
Mr. ~a~d (n~ questions); Mr. Latham (n~ questions~. Then if
there are nc further questions I Will deem this hearing closed.
Thank you fcr coming and by the way congratulations.
Mrs. Wikchan~: Thank you.
~r. Joseph ~ ischeti was present t-o discuss an amendment~ to~{h~site plan
of Eastwind Shores located at Southold. H~ explained that after
taking over the project he found some errors and now to correct
them, he would like to obtain approval of relocation of the curb
cut as well as constr~ction of a ber~ along the front of the
project (that area bordering County Route 48). Mr. ~ischetti
explained t~e reason for the curb cu~ was. to ~ove the r~ad
away from the first unit and for safety reasons. He explained
the purpose for the berm was to block the North wind and to
create a mo~e interestigg landscape rather than the flat land.
He stated that the existing gradin~ will not change that much,
however, with the construction of a berm; and he f~urther added
that this b~
Board that
c~nstructio
90 degree c
con~ensus o~
was favorabl
ON a motion
RESOLVED tha
to thesite
.a 9urb cut a
Vote of t
rm'will not be just a wall. Mr. Fishetti told the
e had received a permit from the County for the
of the amended curb cut; which will create a
rb cut rather than a 45 degree one. It was the
the Board that this amendment to the site plan
e.
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Ward it was
t the Southold Town Planning Board refer the amendment
)lan. of Eastwind Shores for the construction of
nd a berm to the Buildinq Department' for certification.
he Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward
pg (4) ~ 5/21/84
~r. HoWard 5
~f Mohring ~
that the pre
zoned lots,
the resident
explained ti
4..7 l'ots arc
added that
oun~ was present to'discuss the cluster proposal
nterprises located at Mattitucki Mr. Young explained
posal Qontains 6 resi~%ential lots and 2 business
the business lots contain 30,000 + square feet and
ial lots contain 80,000+ sqr. feet. Mr. Young
,at when the wetlands and business a'reas are deleted
the yeild with the cluster computation. Mr. young
f the Planning Board would not approve of having
7 lots-with the cluster Compuation, then the applicant would
rather submit the coventional subdivision wit5 8 lots. The
Chairman stated ~hat if the yield allows for only 4..7 lots' then
that is all the Board can approve. Mr. Young que~ti0ned wether
4.7 lots were rounded up to 5, lots or. down to 4 lots. The Chairman
stated that the Board may need to get an opinion from Tasker, the
Town Attorney; however, they felt that it would be 4 lo~s. The
Mr. Young t~en stated that he ~ould rather submit the coventional
subdiviSion as presented to the Board. The Board questioned
if the applJcant would be willing to submit a proposal with
5 residenti~ 1 lots, rather than 6, using the cluster for a total
of 7 lots. The Board felt this would be a better plan than
the conventJal subdivision. It was the consensus of the Board
that they wJ tl review the cluster concept in the ~dinance
and request revised maps indicating the 5 residentail ~cluster
with the 2 usiness lots.
~r. and Mrs. Mead were pres~nt to discuss the minor subdivision
.Qf the char]es Simon Estate located at Peconic. The Board questioned
whether the~ would covenant and ~restrict' against any future
subdivisoon of lots No. 1, 2, and 3-in perpuity, and the
applicants :~tated that they would agree to this if"the Board
required it. It was the consensus of the Board .that a
field inspe~;tion of the property Would be' done prior to
any action.
_~.r, J~ohn .Ben,rani and Mr. Alexander Koke were present for
a. pr.e.-s.ubmi:~siOn conference to discuss a site plan for
p. roposed red,ail stores at Southold. The Board noted that
serveral plans were submitted and they requested that all
th~ information 'be on One plan' prior tO referring it to
the building department fo~ certification. The Board
also requested a key map included on the survey and
suggested that Mr. B~rtani and Mr. Koke con%act the
County for a curb cut with posSib~ly one egress and ingress.
The other it~ems requested to be included on the survey
were: 16 ad~[itional.parking spaces, drainage, name of
adjacent ow]~ers, easements if any, and grading.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED th~[t the Southold Town Planning Board refer the
~ite plan of Anthony Marshall, located at Fishers Island,
for the plaCement of a s~0rage building, to the BUilding
Department for certification.
Vote of the Boa~: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham,Ward,
r-~ pg (5) r~ 5/21/84
~ohrinq Enterprises, located at P~conic- The Board noted
that the s~rvey indicated that this is a minor subdivision,
however, i~ ..contains five (5) lots. The Board requested
clarification from the applicant as to how he wishes
to proceed with the application; as the map presently
indicates, it will have to be handled as a major
subdivisior.
On a motio~ made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it'was
RESOLVED tl at the SoUthold Town Planning Board ~isapprove
the subdiv ~sion of Loretta DiMaqqio located at SouthQ.!.d_
due to the insufficient area of the lots.
~¢~te of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Wa~d~
The Board ~lso questioned the use of the house and garage in
the future-
Simichich located at Mattituck- Mr. Charles Cuddy, esq.
was present on behalf of Mr. Simichick.
On a motio~ made by Mr. Ward; seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED tba~ the Southold Town Planning Board disapprove
the subdivision Of John Simicich~located at Mat~itu~k, due
~to the insufficient area of the lot, which would be created
by the subd
Vote of
The Board
from the Be
approval w~
outside th~
ivision.
the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward
also noted that if the applicant seeks a 'variance
ard of Appeals for insufficient area, a 280-a
11 also have to be given as the access road is
subdivision and not in Planning Board jurisdiction.
~Qs~nston~ located at Cutchogue- It was the consensus of the
Board to c~ll in the attorney for the applicant to discuss
placing covenants and restrictions on the lots as to no further
subdivisio~ in perpuity, as well as, other proposed subdivisions
in the ares and the possibility of both subdivisions using
the same access road.
cated at Cutchogue-It was the consensus of the
o~ing a field inspection, to suggest to the
d of Appeals the following information since
areathe applic~tiOn~nd width variances: is presently before them for insu'fficient
~omalski-l¢
Board, fol]
Zoning Boa~
A 50' strip through the farm reserved as a paper road
pursuant to the Master Plan. THIs will not infringe upon
the subdivision , but should be considered at this time.
pg (6) 5/21/84
Domalski c~nt.
2 This was handled as a set-off, by the Planning
Board in 1'983. There'are no covenants regarding
re-subdivision.
It was the consensus of the Board to hold this application in
abeyance u~til all variances and 280-a access approval is
granted.
***
~eskouris Ocated at Matt~tuck~The Board requested a key map
to be inclgded on the survey. A 'field inspection was made
and the Board~ su~ed-making provisions for the
reservatio~ of a~50' Strip for a paper road to be dedicated
to the Tow~ at some future date, pursuant to the'Master Plan.
TheBoard w$1i hold the application in abeyance until '
research iS done to determine the SEQR process for Set,offs.
~ettieri located at East Marion-Board member G. Ritchie
Latham was to make a field inspection of the area, however,
since ther~ was no key map and the lots were not ~taked he
~ad difficulty in determining the amount of area which
was wetlands. There was questions as to the buildability
of Parcel with regard to the amount of wetlands. It was
th~ consensus of the Board to ~equest a key map and contours
on the sur~ey, as well as, ~akes to~ delineate the location
of Parcel
***
~orton Chalge of zone ~ocated at Cutchogue- The Board requested
that Mr. Hqr~on be scheduled for an appointment with the Board
in order tq provide clarification as t~ what is being proposed.
The Board ~ad a question as to wh~the applicant was s~ll~ng
the lot t~ as well as, who the owner of Lot No. 3 was.
~owalski and Berry located at Southold-Following a field inspection
of the site for this site plan for construction of a fish market
and office/buidling., the Board requested the following information.
1. Retail sales area.
2. Type of offices proposed and if these are to be ommited at
this time, delete them from the plan and re'submit.
3.~All site plan elements to be included on one plan.
pg (7) ~ 5/21/84
Mr. William Peters was present to discuss the proposed
addition to the Cutchogue Library~ located at Cutchoqu~.
Mr. Peters presented-anew survey to the Planning Board
for their ~eivew and ex'plal~ed that the library has
the option to buy the buiding and land under certain
Conditions. These conditions include no parking fields
added, any extension be single sto'~ located in the
rear of th~ church, and that the.o~ginal architecutural
character Df.the church be ~ai~tained. It was noted
that the 0~d~nance contains|certain requirements for
a library. The Board quest~ioned~ the parking Presently
at the sit~ and the additional proposed. T~ey suggested
possibly u~i~iz~ng the Town par~in~.field in the area.~
It was the consensus of the Board to make a field inspection
prior to a~y action.
***
On a motio~ made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
RESOLVED t~t the Southotd Town Planning Board ~ecommend to
the SouthO]d Town Board that the relief petition of Edward
Nalbantian be denied since there was no public
hearing held on the preliminary maps of this major subdivision
prior to May 20, 1983..
Vote f the Board: Ayes:Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward.
***
On a motio made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Ward it was
RESOLVED t~at the. Southold Tgwn Planning Board recommend to
the Town B~ard that the relief petition of The0d---~]. ~-~h
~II and BrJscoe R. ~mith, located at Fishers Island. be denied
since sket(h appoval was no~l~granted prior to May 20, 1983
on this mir I
or subdivision.
Vote f the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, ward
***
On a.~motio~ made by Mr. Ward seconded by Mr. Mullen it was
~nd Charle
RESOLVED t~at the Southold T~
Southold Tcwn Board that the
in $outhol~ for the Peconic
be denied ~s it does not con~
Master Plat for the Town of
Vote
'~outhold
was presen'
requested
building
had not re%
wn Planning Board r~Commend to the
application for a chan~e of zone
]ounty Miniature Rail Road, Co., Ltd.
~orm with the present or proposed
;outhold.
f the Board: A~es: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wa r~ ~
~!1" site plan lo~ated at Southold. Mr. James Gray
to discuss this proposai ~or retail stores, he
hat the Planning Board forward this site plan to the
epartment for certification. Since the Town Planner
iewed this plan t~e Board stated ~hat this Should be
done prior to refferal to the building department.
pg (8) f~. 5/21/84
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Ward it was
RESOLVED tb~t the Southold Town Plan~i~g Board ~efer the site
~lan "South.)ld Mall" a proposal for 7 retail storesr 1 restaurant
.and an'addi'~ion on an existinq restaurant~ located at Southold~
~apped May 3 , 1984 to the Building Department for certification
subject to~e Town Planner's review.
Vot~f the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Wa~d_ -
Grigonis-se ~-o.ff located at Southold. The Board will hold this
application until research is done to determine the SEQR process
for set-off~.
Plock-set~c !f lo~d at~guthold. The Planning Board will hold
this application in abeyance until research~is done to determine
the SEQR prDcess for set-offs.
On a moti¢ made by Mr. Mullen seconded by Mr. W~d it was
RESOLVED t]~at the Southold Town Planning Board ~pprove th~
~et-off of Pipes Cove CorD. located a% Greenport, dated
.November 1"~ 1983 subject to the filing of theco~enants
~nd restri~'tions as approved by the Town Attorney, with the
County Cle~k. (106-13)
Vote )f the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mul~en., Latham, Wa rd
***
Leon Marcu:~ minor subdivision located at Gre~nport. Mr. Charles
.C~uddy was ])resent to discuss this proposal. ~
On a~motic
RESOL~
subdi~
was s~
a fili
WHEREA
the T¢
7:30
WHERE
the T¢
and a
NOW,
Marcu
Van T~
Nov. 1
be ap~
on sa~
within
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. wa~d it was
ED that whereas, a formal application for the approval of a
ision plat entitled "Leon Marcus" located at Greenport
bmitted to'the Planning Board-onJanuary 28, 1983 and
ng fee was paid on December 7, 1983.
S, a public hearing on said subdivision was held at
wn Hall, Southold, New York, on April 9, 1984 at
.m., and
S the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of
wn of Southold have been met by said subdivision plat
plication,
herefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Leon
for approval of said subdivision plat prepared by R.
le, mapped November 4, 1982 and amended Jan. 17, 1983,
0, 1983, Nov. 28, 1983 and last amended Feb. 16, 1984
roved and the chairman be authorized to endorse approval
d subdivision plat subject to the following conditions
six months from date of resolution:
~ pg(9) _ 5/21/84
Leon Marcu
Cont.
No further subdivision of Lots 3 and 4 in perpetuity.
The building envelope will set back 100' from the
shore line on Lot 2.
Should the Nature Conservancy not accept the parcel,
said owner will covenant and restrict the land
never to be subdivided again nor built on in perpetuity.
The conditions 1-3 inclusive shall be filed as ·
covenants and restriction sin the office of the
Count~-Clerk on or prior to granting approval of
this subdivision.
Vote
ON a motic
RESOLVED ti
~ompliance
for the acc
lcoated at
follows:
Widen on t~
Vote ¢
On a motior
· The subdivision will be made subject to the applicant
posting a bond with the Town in the approved amount
of $9130.00.
,f the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
.at the Southold'Town Planning Board ~Qcept and request
With the.repqrt No. 361 of Inspector-John W. Davis
ess road within the subd~iv~sion of _~!~erZrude Duchow
~econic[ With the amendment of line '~2 to read ss
iden existinq road in the 25ft. R.O.W. to ]5 f,_
e right side.
f the Board: Ryes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward
made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set June 4~ 1984
at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall. Main Road. South.oldas
the time and place f~or the ne×t r~qu]ar m~a~g of the Plannmng
Board.
Vote f the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, ~Ward ~
On a moti~ made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board ~accept. the
_suggested r~esolution of F.J. Yakaboski~ esq. regarding the
~acce'ss r0a~ report of the right-of-way within t~e subdivision
,of james M~nos at Mattituck subject to the. withdrawal of the
article 78 against the Planning Board. Said resolution reads
as follows:
~ pg (10) _ 5/21/84
WHEREJ
Board adopt
of inspect(
respect to
and,
WHERE2
what porti(
are recomm~
NOW,
RESOL~
dated Janu~
Manos, des2
suck repori
with the at
follows:.i
1.
or right-oi
be require~
numbered~ 1
2. T~
approval of
of said ra¢
FURTH~
right-of-wa
Lot 4 as s~
FURTH~
construct
the west p~
Vote
On a motic
RSOLVED th~
number 6 in
1984 to rea
for dedicat
Robert and
~S, on the 6th day of February, 1984, this
~ed a resolution wherein it accepted the report
~r John W. Davis, designated Report No. 340, with
the minor subdivision of James Manos at Mattituck,
~S, as adopted, said resolution is unclear as to
~ns of the report constitute requirements and which
~ndations which need not be acted upon by the applicant,
'HEREFORE, BE IT
~ED, that the raod report of Inspector John W. Davis,
.ry 7, 1984 with respect to the subdivision of James
.gnated as Report No. 340, be accepted and, based upon
· and all other submissions to this Board in connection
~ove-referenced minor subdivision, this Board determines as
.at the applicant, in constructing the access road
-way to Lot 4 as shown on said subdivision plan,
to proceed in accord withthe recommendations
through 6 of said report.
~e applicant, James Manos~ however, may, subject to
thisBoard, use alternate materials in the construction
dway; and be it
R RESOLVED that when construction, such roadway or
y may be used as access to Lots 2 and 3, as well as
own on said subdivision plan;~and be it
R RESOLVED, that the applicant not be required to
berm on the south property line of Lot 2 or on
operty line of Lo~ 4.
f the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward
made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham it was
the Southold Town Planning Board amend condition
the resolution of conditional approval dated MaY 7,
. as follows: The right-of-way shall be offered
ion as a Town Road; in the minor subdivision of
Vote o
~amuels min
reviewed th
pruchaSing
a donation
land 50' ~w
this applic
regarding t
3ean Lenzner located at Mattituck.
the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward
)r subdivision located at Orient. The Board again
is proposal and noted that the TOWn is considering
this property, however, Mr. Samuels will not make
to the Town. It .was also noted that the Town owns
~y from' the. property. The Planning Board will hold
~tion until a decision is reached by the Town Board
.~e purchase of this land.
~_ pg (11) 5/21/84
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr~ Latham it was
RESOLVED t~at~_the Sou·thold Town Planning Board ~eclare lead
agency wit~ regard to the State Environmental Quality Review
Act for th9 minor sUbdivision of ~tephenson BeachI Inc.-located
.at Orient-East Marion. An initia·i determination Of non-
significa~ :e has been made.
Vote
On a motio]
RESOLVED t!
~pprova
~.ocated
~ub~ect
1
2
Vot~
Ruth 01'
at Isla]
Mr. Mul
Cleaves
contact~
over th~
Being nc
Mullen
carried
)f the Board: Ayes: ORlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward_
made by Mr.Latham, seconded by Mro Ward it was
~t· the Southold Town Planning Board .grant sketch
to the minor subdivision of Stephenson Beach~ Inc.
at Orient-East Marion dated February 27, 1984
to the following covenants and restictions: No further subdivision in perpuity
Suffolk County department of Health services
approval of the water of lot No. 3 prior
to obtaining a building permit for this lot.
of the Board: Ayes: Or-lowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward
~a discussed the bluff e:rosion and~ the Breaker's
~d Proposal pending before the Board.
.en questioned the floating docks being placed at
Point. It was noted ·that the DEC should be
~d for informationas the Trustees have no jurisdiction
.s issue.
~ further business to come before the board, Mr.
~ade a motion to adjourn, seconded byMr. Latham and
M~eting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
Southold Town PlanningBoard
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
Orlowsk~, J?~.~ Chairman ~ SO~3TI{OLD TO~N C~.~
~B~nnett
Town O~k, Town of Southolcl