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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on Monday, November
10, 1986 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold.
Present were:
Absent:
Chairman Bennett Orlowski,Jr.
Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Member Richard G. Ward
Member Kenneth Edwards
Secretary Diane M. Schultze
Planner James Bryer
Executive Administrator Victor Lessard
7:30 p.m.
Wiliam F. Mullen, Jr., Member
Public hearing on the question of approval of the final maps
for the major subdivision Of Frieda Crowley located at Southold
for 6 lots on 14 acres.
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening, I would like to call this meeting to order,
the first order of business is a public hearing on the question of approval
of the final maps for the major subdivision of Frieda Crowtey located
at Southold for 6 lots on 14 acres. I have proof of publication in the
Long Island Traveler Watchman signed by Pat Wood and notorized by Barbara
Forbes. I have proof of publication in the Suffolk Times signed by Joan
Gustavson and notorized by Mary Deegnan. I will dispense with the reading
of the metes and bounds if any one has a problem with that, please let
me known. At this time, everything is in order for final hearing. I
will ask if there are any objections to this subdivison? Hearing none.
Are there any endorsements of this subdivision?
Martin J. Crowley: For the petitioner, I am Martin J. Crowley, One West
Main Street, Smithtown, NY.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay, any other endorsements of this major subdivision?
Hearing none. Is there anyone out there neither pro nor con but with
information pertianing to this subdivision which would be of interest
to the Board? Hearing none. Anyquestions from the Board? Mr. Latham,
none, Mr. Ward, none; Mr. Edwards, none; Mr. Bryers, none. Okay, being
no further questions, I will declare this hearing closed and thank you
for coming down.
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On a motion mde by Mr. Latham seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, November 24,
1986 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the
time~and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting.
Vote of the Board: Aye: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, November 24,
1987 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall .as the time and place
for the public hearing on the question of approval of the major subdivision
Of John and Oliva Fellinger-Ihar to be known as Woodbine ManOr located
at Cutchogue, for 17lots on 20 acres.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Latham, Ward, Edwards
The Planning Board set the following new prpposAts for a field inspection:
Mohring Enterprises - set off of 3.563 acres in the B zone from 39.9 acres
in the A zone located at Cox Neck Road, Mattituck.
Birndorf and Rizzo - 4 lots on 9 acres at Main Road, Cutchogue
S~antey Rutkowski - set off of 87,120 square feet from 10.179 acres at
Main Road, East Marion.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare themselves lead
agency under the State Environmental Quality Review Act for the set off
of Mohring Enterprises located at Mattituck. AN initial determination
of non-significance has been made.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare themselves lead
agency under the STate Environmental Quality Review Act for the minor
subdivision of Birndorf and Rizzo~located at~Cutchogue. An initial
determiniation of non-significance has been made.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
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ON a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare themselves lead
agency under the State Environmental Quality Review Act for the set off
of Stanley Rutkowski lcoated at East Marion. AN initial determination
of non-significance has been made.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Ortowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seonded by Mr. Edwards, the following
action was taken:
NEGATIVE DECLA~RTION
Pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law State Envirionmental
Quality Review Act and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44
of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the Southold
Town Planning Board has lead agency for the action described below has
determined that the project will not have a significant effect on the
environment.
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
The minor subdivision of North Road Associates is four lots on 16~8
acres with 3.77 acres of Open Space located at Orient.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect
on the environment~for the following reasons:
1. An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated
that tno significantn adverse effects to the environment were likely
to occur should the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been ~o correspondence received from the Suffolk
County Department of Health Services in the alotted time, it is assumed
that tehre are no commetns or objections'from that agency.
Becuase there hks been no corresondence from the NY State Department
of Enviriomental Conservation in the alotted time, it is assumed
that there are no comments or objections from that agency.
The project will meet all the requirements of the Code.~of~the Town
of Southold Subdivisio of Land Regulations.
Further information can be obtained by contacting Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971.
Vote of the Boardc: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
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On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, the following action
was taken:
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Pursuant to Article 8 of ~the Enviroinmental Consrvation Law, State Environmental
Quality R~view Act and 6 NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44
of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that Southold
Town Planning Board as lead agency for the action described below has
determined that the project will not have a significant effect on the
environment.
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
The minor subdivision of Charles Simmons is for .4 lots on 57.7 acres
located at Mattituck, tax map no. 1000-112-1~8.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect
on the environment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated that
no significatn adverse effects to the environment were likely to
occur should the project be implemented as planed.
Becuase ther was no correspondence received in the alotted time from
the Suffolk County Departmen tof Health Services, it is assumed that
there are no objections or commentsfrom that agency.
Becasue there was no correspondence received in the alotted time
from the NY State Department of Environmental Conservation, it is
assumed that there are no objections or comments from that agency.
The project will meet all the requirements of the Code of the Town
of Southold Subdivision of Land Regulations.
Further information can be obtained by contacting Diane M. Schultze,
Secretary, Southold Town Planing Board, Main Road, Southold, New
York, 11921.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Edwards, seconded by Mr. Latham, the following
action was taken:
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Pursuant to Srticle 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State Environmental
Quality Review Act and 6 NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44
of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that Southold
Town Planning Board as laed agency for the action described below has
determined that the project will not have a significant effect on the
environment.
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DESCRIPTION~OF ACTION
The minor subdivision of Kenneth Strachan, Jr. and Margaret Strach
is for 3 lot son 16.4 acres located at King Street, Orient, Tax map no.
1000-27-4-9.1 and 10000-32-1-1,14.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect
on the environment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment ha been submitted Which indicated that
no significant adverse effects to the environment were likely to
occur should the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been no correspondence received in the alotted
time from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services it is
assumed that there are no comments or objections from that agency.
Because there has been o corresondence received inthe alotted time
from the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation it is assum~
that there are no comments or objections from that agency.
The project will meet all requirements of the Code of the Town of
Southold Subdivision of Land Regulations.
Further information can be obtained by contac.ging Diane M~ Schultze, Se
Southold Town PlanningBoar~ MainRoad, Southold~ NY 11971.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Wacd~' Edwar~s~.~'~=~
Abstained: Latham
Frank Cichanowicz (Wild Oats) - This proposal~ will be held over since
map has not been submitted. This proposal is ~fcr 7 lots on 1~ acres 1¢
at Indian Neck Lane, Peconic.
M. Paul Friedberg - This proposal will be held over since a yield map
has not been submitted. This proposal is for 13 lots on 24 acres at M~
On a motion made by Mr. Edwards, seconed by Mr. Ward, the following ac~
was taken:
Negative Declaration
Pursuant to Article 8 of the ENvironmental Conservation Law State E~Vi~
Quality Review Act and 6 NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44
of the Code of the Town of Southol~, notice is hereby given that Southc
Town Planning Board as lead agency for the action described below has
determined that the project will not have a significant effect on the
environment.
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DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
The minor subdivision of Brisooe Smith is a subdivisio of 4 lots
on 12.3 acres located atFish~rs Island, SCTM # 1000-9-6-5 and 8.
The project has been de~ermin~d not to have a significant effect
on the environment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted whic'h indicated
that no significant adverse effects to the environment were likely
to occur should the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been no correspondence from the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services in the alotted time, it is assumed
that there are no commentJ or objections from that agency.
Because there has been no corresondence received in the alotted
time from the NYS DEpartment of Environmental Conservation it
is assumed that there are no comments or obejctions from that
agency.
The Project will meet all the requirements of the Code of the
Town of Southotd Subdivision of Land Regulations.
Further informatin can be obtained by contacting Diane M. Schultze, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Sunrise Estates (Milhaltses) - This~proposal for 7~ lots on 15~9 acres
at Bergen Avenue, Mattituck, will be held over for a field inspection.
On a motion made ~y Mr. Ward, seconded hy Mt~ Lath~m, the~following action
was taken:
NEGATIVE DECLARAT%ON
Pur u
s ant to A~ticle 8 of t~e Environmental Conservation Law,~State Environmental
Quality Review Act and 6 N¥CRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and Chapter 44
of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that Soutohld
Twon Planning Baord as lead agency for the action described below has
determined t~hat the project will not have a significant effect on the
environment.
DESCRIPTION OF ACTION
The major subdivisin o~ Hodor ~ Staller to be known as"EAst Marion
Woods" isa~cluster subdivision for 26 lots on 59.8 acres at East Marion.
SCTM # 1000-31-1-5il.
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The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the
enviroinment for the following reasons:
An environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated that
no significant adverse effects to the environment were likely to
occur Should the project be implemented as planned.
Becasue there has been no corresondence from the Suffolk County Department
of Health Services in the alotted time, it is assumed that there
are no comments or objections from that agency.
Because there has been no correspondence received in the alotted
time from the NYS Departmen tof Environmental Conservation it is
assumed that there are no comments or objections from that agency.
The project will meet all the requirements of the Code of the Town
of Southold Subdivision Of Land Regulations.
Further information can be obtained by contacting Diane M. Schultze
Secretary, SouthOld Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski ,Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, November 24, 1986
at 7:45 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the time
and place for a public hearing on the question of approval of the preliminary
maps for the major subdivision of Hodor/Staller to be known as "East Marion
Woods" located at East Mari~n, subject to:
1. Receipt of six (6) amended surveys of the preliminary layout
to include the wood line. This was on the sketch map, however, omitted
from the preliminary survey.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
7:45 p.m. Mr. Garrett Strang, architect was present to discuss a pre-submission
conference for the site plan for The Suffolk Times and News Review for
construction of an office located at Main Road, Mattituck.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay, next order of business is a 7:45 p.m. appointment
with Mr. Garrett Strang to discuss the site plan for The Suffolk Times
and News Review located at Main Road, Mattituck. Mr. Bryer, you reviewed
it, and you have some questions.
Mr. Bryer: How did you come up with the parking schedule?
Mr. Strang: We have come up with the parking schedule since it is, the
nature of the use of the building is such that if we apply the usual
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Mr, SCrang: formula df 1 car per 100 square feet it is totally excessive
of the parking that is absotutly required.
Mr. Bryer: You would need 64 spaces and you show 41.
Mr. Strang: Alright, this is,as you can see by the application, it is
buisness offices, it is not a shopping center or anything like that. It
is single, sole occupant type of operation. We basically based the parking,
as you can see f~m~Lthe~sch~dule,,with relation, to the number of anticipated
occupants, both at this initial point in time a~d as the business expands,
the ultimate number of employees. And, we h~ve also allocated some transient
customer parking.
Mr. Bryer: I know this is a preliminary stage, but topography, drainage,
all that has to be shown.
Mr. Strang: The question w~th regard to topography would be we received
a topographic map from the survey but it was based on every five feet
and before we went and plotted that on the~.map, I wanted to find out
if the Board would be receipti~e to accepting a 5' topography or if they
wanted one a little more detailed than that.
Mr. Bryer~ I would say that we would have to take a look and see what
it looks like. Five feet is the minimum that is requiredJin zoning, it
depends on if it is a flat lot, we could go with five, but I don't really
know what the lot looks like.
Mr. Strang: There is a rime in the~rear of the propoerty beyond the
building area and it generally slopes. I may have that map in my files
from the surveyor. That is the extmnt of the topographic that has been
presented to~us athat this time, but so as to not have to do it ~wice,
t would rather thave the Board give direction to what their preference
would be. If you would like I can submit this a~ this time and make it
part of the file.
Mr. Ward: ~Just that the five foot contour is showing up where ~here~
is a grade change.
Mr. Strang: There is a grade change there.
Mr. Ward: That is arial so you can probably?figure i~ is off so, it is
up to you really, we can accept this but it will make a difference with
grades.
Mr. Strang: It wout~ be your preference to see a more refined topographical
map.
Mr. Wa=d: Yes, because if you are off with the grades it can mean alot.
Mr. S~rang: Ace there any other questions from teh Board ~t~'this
time, basically our submission is conceptual to obtain the Baord's feeling
on the site plan configuration and layout and if the Board has any major
concerns or qquestions we would like to be aware of them at this time
before we devetpe it further.
Mr. Ward: What is the size of the vehicle that would use the ramp?
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Mr. Strang: The ramp or access to the lower level would be a van.
Troy Gustavson (owner): To cla~
employees, about 4 days a week,
day a week, our production day,
coming and going in one day.
Mr. Edwards: In the event that
would need a buffer.
Mr. Gustavson: Yes, there is a
to the rear.
Mr. Edwards: I would just as so.
Mr. Strang: I think that could '
is laid in and we can see when tl
the grade change will be and wha'
you are concerning with the LIzz
Mr. Edwards: Exactly.
Mr. Strang: That parcel is, as
and it does abut the railroad tr
questionable at this time. It i~
back there.
Mr. Latham: What is the zoning
Mr. Strang: Is it one of the A
I know it is landloked, there is
Mr. Lessard: By law, a lot like
Mr. Orlowski: Any other questio~
in the fietd~
Mr. Strang: We will take all yon
will be very complimentary to the
Mr. Gustavoson: We welcome your
Mr. Ward: We will put comments
Mr. Strang: Thank you.
ify the parking , we have 15 full-time
~eneed those 15 spots for parking. One
may have as many as 20 people, 20 vehicles
~ou use the back for parking spaces, you
mtural buffer, the property does rise
~n you move the buffer back.
~e more clearly answered once the topography
le exact grade is and we can see what
the buffer will be needed. I think
and Occonnel property.
under stand it, is realitively landlocked
~ks and the nature of development is
not as if it is single family houses
ack there.
ones under the Master Plan? Because
no access to it.
that can not exist and it does.
, none. We are just going to get out
comments into consideration. The facade
area. We are working on that now.
feedback on that.
the map.
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Silver Sand Motel
Mr. Merlou Wiggon was present for a pre submission conference for a site
plan for Silver Sands Motel located at Greenport for constructin of
a sewer connection.
Mr~ Orlowski: Next, we have an 8:00 p.m. appointment, Merlon Wiggen has
scheduled a pre submission conference to discuss the site plan for Silver
Sands Motel for construction of a sewer connection.
Mr. Wiggon: This involves a change from the Silver Sands present leaching
fields which are a problem because they leach out into the Bay, and they
want~to connect to the Village Sewer System. It involves lines going
down Silvermere Road. The present status withthe approvals, the Village
of Greenport has given approvals, we have approval to use the MTA right-of-way
the DEC permit is ready to go and the wetlands permit is in place. It
is pumping station.
Mr. Orlowski: Ail this is underground. You are here basically for the
building, the shed that is on the corner?
Mr. Wiggon: There will be a small house for the electrical, but everything
else is underground. I made the original application several months ago
and I received a call fromthe buiding inspector and the Buiding department
said I should come to the Planning Board. It was reviewed and noted that
no variance was required.
Mr. Orlowski: Well, a.s far as I can figure out, and maybe I am wrong,
but Mr. Lessa~d,.I don't see why we have to deal with ~the applcation.
Mr. Lessard: It doesn't belong here.
Mr. Orlowski: Check with Mr. Lessard in the morning~
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, the following action
was taken:
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State
Environmental Quality Review Act and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10 and
Chapter 44 of the C~de of the Town of Sonthold, notice is hereby given
that the Southold Town Planning Board as lead agency for the action described
below has determined that the project will not have a significant effect
on the environment.
DESCRIPTION'OF ACTION
The minor subdivisionof Elizabeth Thompson to be known as "Kings
Bay Estates" is for 4 lots on 24 acres at King Street, Orient, tax map
no. 1000-27-3-4.
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The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the
environment for the following reasons;
An environmental assessment~has been submitted which indicated that
no siginficant adverse effects to the environment were likely to
occur should the project be implemented as planned.
Because thre has been no correspondence from the Suffolk County Deaprtment
of Health Services in the alotted time it is assumed tht there are
no objections or comments from that agency.
Becuase the~ hks been no correspondence from the NY State Department
of Environmental Conservation in the alotted time, it is assumed
that there~are no objections or comments from that agency.
The project will meet all the requirements of the Code of the Town
of Southold Subdivision of Land Regulations.
Further information can be obtained by contacting Diane M. Schul~ze, Secretary
Southold Town Planning Board, Main Road, Southold, NY 11971
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Elizabeth Thompson
Kings Bay Estates:
It was noted that the building envelopes had been placed on the surveys
for this subdivision proposal located at Orient, containing 5 acre lots.
Mr. Ward discussed the possiblity of a cluster. It was also noted that
with 5 acre lots, the proposal is execmpt from the Health Department
for Article 6. However, if was felt that a cluster based on 5 acre zoning,
may also be exempt from the ~rticle 6 since the density would be based
on 5 acre zoning. It was the consensus of the Board to request that the
applicant come to the next regular Planning Board meeting to discuss the
possiblity of a cluster.
On a motinn made by Mr. Ward seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Baord declare themselves lead
agencyunder the STate Envirionmentat Quality Review Act for th eminor
subdivison of RIAL Realty for 4 lots on 47 acres at Oregon Raod Mattituck,
an.initial determination of non-significance has been made.
Vote of the Board: Aye: Orlwoski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the sketch map
for the minor subdivision of RIAL Realty for 4 lots on 47 acres at Oregon
Raod, Mattituck, survey dated as revised July 21, 1986 subject to:
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1. Improving the East - West C~ght-of-way to the Town Highway Specifications.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
It~.was also noted that this proposal had 'received a variance from the
Board Of Appeals with the following conditions: 1) No disturbance of
land within~50' distance shown along the 49½' contour line of the proposed
Lot No. ~1 and 2) the d~mensions of the lots shall be as shown by minor
subdivision map as dated and revised July 21, 1986, no lot line changes
shall be permitted.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board declare themselves lead
agency uhder the State Environmental Quality Review Act for the major
subdivison to be kn own as "Charels Acres" located at Wells Road and Main
Road, Peconic for 14 lots on 32.'8 acres in the cluster concept.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlwoski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, following a public hearing,
approve the preliminary map for the major subdivision to be known as "Charles
Acres" lcoated at Wells and Main Raods, Peconi~c for 14 lots on 32.18 acres
in the cluster concept, survey dated August 22, 1986.
Vote of the.Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Nicholas Aliano -
Mr. Henry Raynor, Jr., agent for the applicant was present for this
disucssion. The Board of Zoning Appeals was requesting a recommendation
for this site plan for costruction of a proposed motel at Greenport.
Mr. Orlowski: Next, we have Nicholas Aliano, Board to make reeommendation
to the Board of Appeals on this site plan proposal for construction of
a motel located at Greenport. Mr. Raynor, you are the agent for this
proposal. You are the zoning Board for what?
Mr. Raynor: For the use and submission for the site plan which is before
the Board is for the disscussion of a motel use Qn the property.
Mr. Ward: Why motel use.
Mr. Raynor: Well after several discussions with this Board and the various
objections to the multiple zone~that it exists in, it was felt that the
needs of the Town were more expeditously reflected with the lack of motels
int he Town ship and as a result the applicant chose to go forward with
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this proposal and various other propsoals have'].been discussed.
Mr. Bryer: What variances are ~equested? For use?
Mr. Raynor: No, it will only be a special exception for the building,
the zoningiis~i~iplace. With a spediRt exception of the Board of Appeals,
it was felt that this use would be an advantageous one for the property.
You, are well aware, the propoerty is zoned in the East foc the Driftwood
Cove, the density ~s approximately 20 some units per acre which is pre-existing
naturally and ~b west is the Ldmber Yard, that is the use there.
MR. Ward: I guess the reason I asked the question ±~ why w~uld you wane
to have a motel by the railroad without amenities without showing...
Mr. Raynor: Well, again, that is just a sketch you hae before you. It
is not a refined site plan-. But, the overwhelming need for motel units
that exist in the Township basically is reflected in what he is proposing
here. I think it is reflecting aneed in 10 words or less. There is a
lot of depth in the South~Rnd~westerly portionof the property. THere
is a vista that goes over to Shelter Island, when the leases-are'down.
Mr. Orlwoski: Back in October of 1985 we made a recommendation to the
Board of Appeals to deny the motel use feeling that we could have done
something with the multiple rental but we were looking at more like 10
units per acre~and th~ applicant was looking at~~ more like 25 so we
couldn,t see quite eye to eye at that~point.
Mr. Raynor: I think at one point he had a mixed offering brought before
the Board for apartment as well as affordable and he felt that a resonable
determination couldn't be made so this was a viable option.
Mr. Orlowski: Right,now the question is the answer goes back to the Board
for the use.
Mr. Raynor: There. are existing documents in the f~le with regard to this
property as a multiple use.
Mr. Orlowski: Everytime we have seen it, you have put the front in a
business use, is that g~ing to stay. I don't have any problem with the
motel use itself but no further expansionof this property. It would be
a~nice buff~er area and you would never see the motel8. And, we do~needJ
motels.
Mr. Raynor: I will take into consideration and. J send on to the applicant,
it is waiting for you recommendations specifically and if that is a restriction
then we will take it into very serious consideration.
Mr. Orlwoski: I think any recommendation from this Board would be that
it be just that use for the property and that is it.
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board ~efer the following commen~s
to the Southold Town B6ard~of AppeAls with regard to the site plan for
Nicholas Aliano loc constructin of a motel located at Greenport:
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1. The Planning Board has no objection tothe motel use, however, there
must be no more than four building as shown on the site plan dated as
revised September 11, 1986 by S~even J. Hyman, P.E. and there is to be
no other business use on the proper%y~
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Lath-am, Ward, Edwards
8:15 p.m. Frank and Bob Ktos have scheduled a pre-submission conference
to discuss the site plan for Ted's Auto, Body for construction of an addition
on the existing building to be used for auto body building located at
Main Road, Cutchogue.
Mr. Orlowski: Next, we have an 8:15 p.m appointment, Frank and Bob Klos
ha~e scheduld a pre-submission conference to discuss the site paln for
Ted's Auto Body for construction~'~of-an addition on the ex~sting buiding
to be used for auto body building, located at Main Road, C~thhogue. I
will abstain from voting or from discussion since the applicants are my
relatives.
Mr. Orlowski left the room at this time.
Mr. Ward: What is the rational for quantity of parking. Why do you show
the number of parking spaces.
Mr. Klos: It is h~sed on the employees, we have seven people
Mr. Ward: And other spaces are based on people coming in?
Mr. K~os: The property next to us.was just acquired and we are trying
to get in prior to winter.
Mr. Ward: This is for a future accessory building.
Mr. Klos: WE want screening to put cars out of site. The original
building was put in in 1932.
Mr. Ward: One thing would be a help to us if you have developed a plan
of what the building will look like with plantings
Mr. Klos: The building on the front will carry t'he shakes throughtout
the front and there is more planting than many of the other businesses
around it.
Mr. Ward:
Mr. Klos:
Mr. Ward:
Give us a rendering of the landscaping plan.
There are planters, existing.
What about street trees.
Mr. Klos~. There are none there but we will be selling used cars so you
could not do alot with.it. WE are sharing another driveway with the fiberglass
repair business.
Mr. Ward: What is the edge of pavement?
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Mr. Klos: That is bluestone. There is a tree on either side of the driveway.
Mr. Ward: If you are sharing this driveway, you will endo up with 60'
o£ access.
Mr. Klos: We are showing it for legal reasons.
Mr. Ward: Show us what you intend, what is the Width cut, we don't want
to see a 100' increase. Delineate exactly what you want.to do.
Mr. Ktos: AS far,as the rest of it, what is the procedure so that we
might be able to get going piro to winter weather. Preliminary approval
on the addition and if not at the next meeting we won't be able to start
until the spring with footings. We would have filed the plan sooner,
but we jsut recently acquired the property.
Mr. Ward: The next official meeting is November 24. If you could get
it resolved we could have site plan approval by then. In the mean time,
with all subject you could talk to the Building Department on that,as
far as footings to don't see any problem. There is no change in the building,
the problem is withthe driveway. Show parking cars on the lot and break
it up with landscaping so that there is not one long sheet of gravel.
Mr. Edwards: Please submit a rendering on the building.
Mr. Klos: We will have something back to you at the ne×~ meeting.
Mr. Ortowski came back to the meeting.
8:30 p.m. Mr. Mike Patellis has scheduled a pre-submission conference
to discuss the site plan proposal to change fo use of the existing print
shop at Boisseau Avenue, Southold to a take-out restaurant.
Mr. Patellis was not present, however, Richard Golder was present as his
representative.
Mr. 0rlowski: Okay,-the next thing is an 8:30 p.m. appointment to
discuss the site plan proposal to change the use of the existing print
shop at Boisseau Avenue, Southotd to a take-out restaurant.
Mr. Golder: What we proposed to do is not change the building at all.
The area has a site plan that was previously approved for 5 parking spaces
and it is in the folder. The previous site plan has..an approved ingress/egress.
We don~t plan to change the exterior of the building. There will be no
changes whatsoever. Previous to the building being changed to a print
shop it was.a VFW Hall, with catering and a kitchen. When I went to the
Building Department I was told I would need a site plan because of the
change.of nme.
Mr. 0rlowski: How many seats?
Mr. Gotder: Two tables but not for service, they will only be used by
people waiting to pick up the food. It would require Health Department
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would require denitrification for more than two tables so you could never
get Health Department approvals because there is no room on the property,
therefore, only two tables are.~proposed.
Mr. Bryer: There is no provision in the code for a take-out restaurant.
Mr. Orlowski: This will be strictly take-out.
Mr. Golder: Yes.
The parking should be shown.
I~thought it was all approved.
For a print shop.
It was my understanding that it was approved for the traffic
Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Golder:
Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Golder:
flow.
Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Bryer:
Mr. Golder:
Mr. Bryer:
It Will have to show on the site plan.
How many people work there?
Two-full time employees, 3 maximum.
Five spaces is needed.
Mr. Orlowski: You have to show parking for at leats 5 spaces.
Mr~ Golder: There is room for that in the lot area.
Mr. Orlowski: Did the Building Department certify this.
Mr. Golder: When we spoke to the Building Department we were told it
was all okay.
Mr. Orlowski: Make ~.up five spaces and submit to the Building Department.
Mr. Golder: There will be no external changes . Even the same sign.
Mr. Orlowski: Put it on the site plan and then have it certified and
bring it back prior t~o¥ the next meeting.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board request that an updated bond estimate
be prepared for the major subdivision of Paradise-by-the-Bay to be based Upon the
current Town of Southold Highway Specifications.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
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Rosa Hodgson - The Board~reviewed this proposal for a set off of 45,000 square
feet from 7.152 acres located~at Pine Neck Road, Southold for a recommendation
to the Board of~Zoning Appeals. Mr. Garrett Strang, Architect, was present.
It was noted that ~he proposed zoning calls for one acre in this area.
On a motion made By Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board refer the following comment
to the Southold Town Board of Zoning Appeals with regard to the ~pplication
of Rosa Hodgson to set off 45,000 squm=e feet from 7.152 acres located
at Pine Neck Road, Southold:
The Planning Board is favorable to this proposal since this area
is proposed for-one-acre zoning in the Master Plan.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, L~tham, Ward, Edwards
Frank A. Field Realty - The Board reviewed this site plan for construction
of a two-family house located at Lineett Street, Greenport on 11, 261
square feet. The Board of Appeals was requesting input from the Board
With regard to this proposal which was glso pending for a variance and
special exception.
On a motion madeby Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board ~efer the following comment
to the Southold Town Board of zoning Appeals with regard to the proposal
of Frank A. Field Realty, Inc. for construction of a two family residence
at Linnett Street, Greenport:
1. The Planning Board can not endorse this propsoal since the lot
is undersized.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Wa~d, Edwards
Long POnd Estates, SEction Itl.- The Board reviewed the correspondence
from Inspector John W. Davis and the Highway Superintendent with regard
to this proosal for 13 lots on 29 acres at Laurel Avenue, Southold.
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept and request compliance
with Inspector John W. Davis' report NO. 542 and the correspondence from
the Highway Superintendent dated October 14, 1986 with regard to the major
subdivision to be known as "Long Pond Estates - Section II" located at
Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, WArd, EDwards
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On a motion made by Mr. Edwards, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, November 24,
1986 at 8:00 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall as the time and place for
apublic hearing on the question of approval of amending the subdivision
regulations with regard to application fees for minor and major subdivisions.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Home Farm Estatesu - Mr. Steven~ Fuchs, applicant, was present for the
Board to take action on. this pretminary map following a public hearingt
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOVLED That the Southold Town PLanning Board, following a public hearing
approve the.preliminary map for the major subdivision of Stedd Holding
Corp. to be known as Home Farm Estates located at Southold for 27 lots
on 63.9 acres in the cluster concept~ survey dated as revised September
8, 1986 subject to:
1. Compliance with the recommendations of the Suffolk County Planning
Commission as indicated in their correspondence of September 29, 1986.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend to the Town Board
that the change of zone petition of Richard Walsh, (No. 271) be denied
since it is inconsistent with the existing and proposed zoning.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Twon Planning Board recommend to the Southold
Town Board that the proposed Local Law entitled''' A Local Law in Relation
to Board of Appeals Fees" be adopted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Mr. Or!owski reviewed with the Board his meeting with the Suffolk County
Soil and Water Conservation Department. He stated that they had agreed
to review and advise on any major subdivisions or site plans referred
to their office° at no charge to the Town.
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Being no further business to come before the Board, on a motion made by
Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Edwards, and carried, the meeting was adjourned
at 9:05 p.m.
Re spectfully submit ted,
~'m:~LC ur~owski, or':,~