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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
August 24, 1987
The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on
Monday, August 24, 1987 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town
Hall, Main R6ad, Southold.
Present were:
Chairman Benentt Orlowski, Jr.
Member William F. Mullen,Jr.
Member G. Rithie~.Latham, Jr.
Membe~ Kenneth Edwards
Member Richard G. Ward
Town Planner va~erie Scopaz
Executive Administrator Victor Lessard
Secretary Diane M. Schultze
7:30 p.m. Public hearing on the question~of approval of the
minor subdivision of Stanlye and Helen Simchick located at
County Route 48, and Alvah's Lane, Cutchogue, SCTM ~ 1000-101-1-19.
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening. I wo~d like to call this meeting
to order. The first order of business is a~public hearing
on the question of approval of the minor subdivision of Stanley
and Helen Sim~hick located at County Route 48 and Alvah's
Lane, Cutchogue. We have proof of pubication in the Suffolk
Times, signed by Gerry Pagliano and notorized by Mary Deegnan,
we have proof of publication in the Long Island T~aveler Watchman
signed by Pat Woods and notorized by Barbara Forbes. At this
time, everything is in order for a hearing, t~.will stated
that I am a relative of the applicant and I will abstain from
any comment in this hearing process. I will ask if there
are any objections to this minor subdivision? Hearing none.
A~e there any3e~dorsements of this minor subdivision?
Mr. Lark: Richard Lark, Main Road, Cutchogue, Suffolk. I
represent both Mr. and Mrs. Simchick who are here tonight
to answer any quesions of the Board. I think any questions
that the Board had before, we have squared~away wi~h the revised
map and as you can see, it has been square for the A~ticle6
process and ~ou have a map~that has been stamped. So, I respectfully
request that you approve this map.
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Mr. Orlowski: Are there any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Hearing none, is there anyone out there neither pro nor con but may
have information pertaining to this subdivision that may be
of interest to the Board? Hearing none. Any questions from
the Board, Mr. Mullen, none; Mr. Latham,none; Mr. Ward, none;
Mr. Edwr~ds, none; Ms. Scopaz, none. Okay, being no further
questions, I will declare this hearing closed and thank you
for coming.
7:45 p.m. Public hearing on the question of approval of the
minor subdivision of David ~ilmerdi~g for 4 lots on 12.79
acres at Fishers Island, SCTM ~ 1000-9~9~2and 3.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay, next order of business is a public hearing
on the question Off, approval of the minor subdivision of David
Wilmerding for 4 lots on 12.79 acres at Fish~rs Island. W~
have proof of pubticatin in the Suffolk Times, signed by Gerry
Pagliano and notorized by Mary Deegnan, we have proof of publication
in the Long Island Traveler Watchman signed by Pat Woods and
notorized by Barbara Forbes, we have proof of p~lication
in the New London Day signed by Gall Zulinsky and notarized
by Beverly Prescott. A~ this time, everything is ino~rder
for a public hearing and I will aksiif~there~are any obejctions
hearing none, are there any endorsementsoof this s~bdivi~ion.
Mr. Lark: Richard Lark, Cutchogue, for the applicant. I believe
that all the comments of the Planning Board in the planning
process have been taken ¢~re o~ihe~a~ious let~ers~hat
have~nsued over the last couple of months have been done
and this has cleared and has cleared Article 6 approval.
The only remaining item of business is to address any items
that it might have for the Suffolk County Planning Commission
which it mad~ on April 1, 1987~rende~dosO~e comments, 3 of
them to be ~ecise. The first comment indi~ateSk~a~h~y
don't indicate where the property is. And, I submit to you
they have not seen it nor has any membe~ of their staff seen
it because the comment makes no sense when they say it is
a landlocked piece. The Board~lfully well knows, who has inspected
the property, that there has been existing rights-of-way to
Equestrian Avenue, which is a phblic road and it terminates
off site and the rights-of~way are provided for ~ith an established
road, so I don't know how to address when the Planning ~ommission
calls them landlocked pieces. There are four structures on
each and everyone of them now. And, they have been using
them for the past 30/40 hears and before that I understand
there was a hotel on the property. So, I can not address
tha~ other than they don't know what theycare talking about~
I have no idea what comment 2 means, if they are talking about
Stony Beach, the Board's comments have been addressed on that,
that is not a buildable lot that is going to be dedicated
as ~understand it to the Ferguson Museum Land Trust to stay
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Mr. Lark: in a forever wild basis. And, negotiations with
the Wilmerding family and the officials of the land trust
have taken place right now. So, if that is the piece they
are talking about, what they refer to on the island as Stony
Beach, then that is taken care of. It is shown on the map
and the Board requested that itcbe~shown not as~-a buildable
parcel which of course it is now. I have no idea What they
mean by comment three, because I don't know, why Resovoir Road
which terminates at the property, which it does not, Mr. Edwards
can tell you that was not used as access to the property.
Either they have the wrong piece of property meaning the County
Planning Commission or like so many instances in the Town
of Southold on Long Island proper or Fishers Island they know
not from whence they speak. And, I respect the Board, they
do have a full quorum tonight to, in accordance with the general
municple law and the. Suffotk~ounty Charter that you override
the resolution with.ha majority plus one and I respectfully
move that you grant an approval of this minor subdivison of
four lots.
Ms. Scopaz: Mr. Chairman, may I respond to one of Mr. Lark's
questions. Just, you asked~..earlier, you did not know the
County referred to the parcel as landlocked. The generally
refer to any piece, of propert~ that~d~es not have frontage
on an existing dedicated public street as landlocked. Even
though you may have rights of way agueemen~s over p~iva~e'~ ~
property, if it is not a dedicated street, they consider
it land locked which is probably why they said that.
Mr.~ Lark: Would you agree with that assessment as good planning
principals that you learned in college would you think that
is~-a good~way~o.~efer to~a~piece of property. Landlocked
is pretty clear both in lawman's terms and legal terms which
means that there is no access to a piece of property.
Ms. Scopaz: My agreement with that is not in question, I
am simply stating for you what it means.
Mr. Lark: Okay, thank you, that cl&rify's it.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay, any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Hearing none. Anyone out their neither pro nor con but with
information to the Board? Hearing none. Questions from the
Board? Mr. Latham, none; Mr. Mullen, none; Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Just the possibility of the ~ther~land as being
set aside to the~land trust, it may best with the filed map
here to designate it as lot No. 5 so that it can be described as
part of this.
Mr. Lark: I talked~to'~Chandler and Palmer who does the surveys
for the Island, there are no existing metes and bounds descriptions
and that is due in part to the hurricanes and stuff like that
it has moved around al little so that there is none and when
the Board wanted to make sure it was not, we designated as
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Mr. Lark: not a buildable lot on this parcel. And, quite
frankly the way they intend to deed it over to the, just refer
to it as it is, Stony Beach which meanders around on the 5.2
acre and shown on the survey which would be attached. On.~
the map, subdivision plan.
Mr.'Ward: I just find it difficult to deed something over
with out metes and bounds.
Mr. Lark: Oh, it is done all the time, especially with the
old deeds because we know What it is bounded by. But, that
is how it was done, because I Checked on that, there~'~are no
existing surveys of that anywhere. So, they have plotted
it basically from the aerials, the current aerials that they
have, to answer~you question and I don't know if i~i~iis~a~satisfactory
answer or not, but there is none.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards, comment? (none) Ms. Scopaz (I
hve nothing to add). Okay, beingno further comments, I will
declare this hearing closed ahd thank you for coming dOwn.
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. La~ham~ , it was
RESOLVED THAT THE Soutold Town Planning Board approve the
minutes<~of the regular Planning Board meeting of August 10,
1987.
Vote of the Board~ Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen,'seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize the
Chairman to end0~se..the minor subdivision map for Richard
and Anita Wilton located at Greenport. SCTM ~ 1000-40-3-6.
UOte of thS Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Edwards, seconded byii~r. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Plan~ning Board a~thorize the
Chairman to endorse the site plan survey for Thompson, Irwin.~
and sandra, located at Main Road, Southotd, SCTM # 1000-63-3-8.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize the
Chairman to endorse the site plan survey for Southld Square
~hoDDes located at Southold, SCTM ~ 1~0.0.~55-5~~
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
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On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize
Chairman to endorse the final maps for the major subdivision
of Reydon Court located at Southold, S~TM ~ 1000-79-5-16.
Vote of the Board; Ayes : Orl'owski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a moP.ion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorizer
the Chairman touendorse the final maps for the minor subdivision
of John J. Miska located at Mattituck, SCTM ~ 1000'115~8.1
Vote of the Board: Ayes~ Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
~n a motion made ~y Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Multen, it was
~SOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize the
Chai~an to endorse the final maps for the'site plan for The
Cove, located at Southold, SCTM ~ 1000~87-5-20.
Vote of the Board: A~gs: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a mot~n made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen, the
following action was taken:
WHEREAS, ON December ~, 1985, the Southold Twon Planning Board
adopted the Land Us~ Plan which amended the original plan
in certain aspects and whereas the Planning Board is now
~esirous of adopting the document entitled Master Plan Update
Summary, with certain amendments as f~llows:
1. Beginning one,page 15, eliminate the section entitled
Alternate Airport Sites ~continuing to page 16.
2. On page 16, eliminate the section entitled East Marion
Northerly Road.
Now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Planning Board adopt
said Master Plan Update<iSummary and cause the amendments to
be made to its official copy.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconed by Mr. ~atham, it was
RESOS~ED that th~ Southold TOwn Planning Board, following
a a field inspection, recommend to the Building Department
that a certificate of occupancy be issued to the site of
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William J. Mills and Co. located at Greenport, based on the
approved site plan.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
preliminary map for the subdivision to be known -~as "Cedarfields"
located at Greenport, following~a preliminary hearing, SCTM
~ 1000-40-5-1, survey dated July 14, 1987 along with supplemental
site utility layout, profiles, miscellaneous details and
landscaping plans subject to: SCTM ~ 1000-40-5-7.
1. Adequate response to Draft Environmental Impact Statement
(DEI$~ regarding potable water.
2. Provision of adequate storm drainage and roadway
in accordance with Town of Southold Highway Standards.
3. ProviSion f~r Sidewalks
4. Approval by the Town's consulting engineer.
Vote of the Board: Ayes; Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
(Mr. Orlowski~S~ated that he was in favor of the proposal,
but~no~ in favor of sidewalk, S, , , , ,
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant one six
month extension on the completion of the conditions of the~.
final resolution on the major subdivision of Deborah Edson;~
SCTM 9 1000-102-2-6, this is the only extension to be considered.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Francis F. Adams - SCTM ~ 1000-3-3-3. The Board reviewed
this proposed lot line change located at Fishers Island.
Mr. Ken Edwards abstained from any discussion with regard
totthis~ proposal. The Chairman read correspondence recently
received from the Fishers Island Deve~gpment Corp. (FIDCO)
The letter stated that Mr. Ridgway, President of FIDCO had
meet with Mr. O'brien, the applicant in order to understand
the proposal. Mr. Ridgeway stated in his correspondence that
FIDCO has no objections to Mr. O'Brien~s proposed plan upon
further review sub~ect to covenants that the two lots with
dwellings will be sold only as~ a unit. Mr. McVann, Esq.,
representing Mr. O'Brien, was present. He stated that he~
did not think Mr. O'Brien would have-any objection ~0 this
proy~slon.
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On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen,it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
lot line chanqe 6n~plan ~ade for Francis Fiske Adams, Jr.
located at F~shers Island, survey dated as revised May 29,
1987, subject to:
Covenants and Restrictions filed with the office of the County
Clerk stating that lots~_'no. 1 and 2 will be sold as one unit,
e~en upon~.the complet£on of dwelling units.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham , Ward
Abstained: Edwards
Braun Oyster Company (Homan) - Site Plan for B~aun Oyster
Company, SCTM ~ 1000-103-1-1,2,3,4. Mr. William F. Mullen,
Jr. abstained from any action or discussion with regard to
this site plan. This proposal for an addition on existing
retail store ~t Cutchogue had received conditional certification
from the Building Department.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Ward, it was
RESOLVED THAT THE Southold Town Planning Board approve and
authorize the Chairman to endorse the site plan ~or B~aun~
Oyster Company for construction.~of an addition to an existing
buildin~/fo~ retail and office space located at Cutchogue,
SCTM ~ 1000-103~1-1,2,3, and 4 subject to completion of the
following condition$~
1. proposed driveway to garage would need 239k if not
redesigned so as not to exit on Road.
2. Exterior lighting to be shielde~ to property.
3. Installationo ffuel tanks to meet requirements of
S~ate Code.
Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, 7~a~ham, Ward, Edwards
Abstained: Mullen
McCan~e - It~.~was the consensus of the Board to set%this four
lot minor subdivision for a field ~nspection. Proposal is
located at Fishers Island.
The nex~ Planning Board meeting was set for Monday, September
14, 1987.
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On a motion made by Mr. Ward, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby adopts
the following policy with regard to the construction~of minor
subdivision roads:
Ail Raods shall be constructed in.accordannce with~:the
Highway Specifications for Roads and Drainage (Chapter
Al08) which includes naming all roads, installation of
all utilities (LILCO, telephone, and cable TV) and bond,
letter of credit or passbook to guarantee ccmpletion
of improvements. The Planning Board may reduce the width
to 22' if in its judgement the road cannot physically
be exteDded to service future subdivisions or additional
lots in excess of 4.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards
Being no further discussion to come before the Board, on a
motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham and carried,
the meeting was adjourned at 8:12 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Bennett Orl6wski, ~r., C~.~
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
Town C~erk, Town Of, Sou+%~t