HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-06/15/1987Southold, N.Y. 11971
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PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
JUNE 15, 1987
The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on
Monday, June 15, 1987 at 7;30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall,
Main Road, Southold.
Presen't were:
Chairman Bennett Orlowski,Jr.
Member William F. Mullen, Jr.
Member G. Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Member Kenneth Edwards
Town Planner Valerie Scopaz
Planning Consultant David Emilita
Executive Administrator Victor Lessard
Planning Intern Melissa Spiro
Planning Board Secretary Diane M. Schultze
Absent: Member Richard G. Ward
7:30 p.m. Public hearing on the question of approval of the
minor subdivision of Sal'and / San Andres, located at Main
Road, Laurel for 4 lots on 22 acres. (tax map no. 1000-125-1-2.9)
Mr. Orlow~ki: I will call this meeting to order, the first
order of business is a public hearing on the question of
approval ?f the minor subdivision of Saland / San Andres
located at Main Road, Laurel for 4 lots on 22 acres. We
have proof of publication i~he Suffolk Times, signed by
Richard Williams and notorized by Mary Deegnan, and we have
proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchma~
signed by Pat Woods and notorized by Barbara Forbes. At
this time, everything is in order for a public hearing and
I will ask if there are any objections to this minor subdivision.
Hearing none, are there any endorsements of this m~nor subdivision?
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Mr. Saland: i would just like to thank the Board for their
cooperation and I can answer any questions you might have
on it.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay, are there any other endorsements of
this subdivision? Hearing none, any one out there neither
pro nor con but with information pertaining to this that
would be of interest to the Board? Hearing none, any questions
from the Board; Mr. Mullen (none); Mr. latham, (none); Mr.
Edwards, (none); Mr. Emilita (none); Ms. $copaz (none); Okay,
being no further questions, I will declare this hearing closed
and thank you for coming down.
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southoid Town Planning Board set Monday,
July 6, 1987 at 7:30 p.m. at the southold Town Hall as the
time and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
minutes of the regular Planning Board meeting of October
20, 198S.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
On a motion amde byMr.Mullen, seconded by Mr. Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
minutes of the regular Planning Board meeting of June 1,
1987.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
7:45 p.m. Re-convened public hearing on the question of
approve of the minor subdivision of Raeburn-Murphy located
off a right-of-way from Bridge Lane, Cutchogue.
Mr.~Orlowski: At this time, 7:45 p.m., I will re-convene
a public hearing on the question of approval of the minor
subdivision for Raeburn-Murphy located off a right-of-way
from Bridge Lane, Cutchogue, recessed from June 1. I will
go back to where I was and ask if there are any objections
to this subdivision. (none) Are there any endorsements to
this minor subdivision?
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Mr: Brue~: Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, Rudolph Bruer, I guess I
would just like to save the Board some time and re-itterate
my letter to the Board of April 14, 1987 wherein I requested
the application, and I endorse, that letter again and ask
that the application be granted as applied for. Thank you
very much.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay. Are there any other endoresements of
this subdivision? Is there anyone out there neither pro
nor con but withtinformation pertaining to this subdivision
which would be of interest to the Board?
Ms. Scopaz: Mr. Chairman, has information come in with regard
to the right-of-way which was asked for.
Mr. Orlowski: Other than what Mr. Bruer already submitted.
Ms. Scopaz: If I recall correctly at the last meeting there
was a request for information about the right-of-way situation.
Mr. Bruer: I think that might have had to do',with Mr. Angel.
MS. Scopaz: is my recollection correct?
Mr. Bruer :Not really.
Ms. Scopaz: There was information with regard to the existing
right-of-way as opposed to the proposed right-of-way.
Mr. Bruer: The existing right-of-way, if I understand correctly,
that is being used is a right-of-way that meanders over two
or three different propoerties and there is a family there
upon whose property it has meandered has objected to it.
Now, Chicago Title has indicated to me, I don't know how
many times, that there is an insurable right-of-way assuming
that it is properly installed in place. The Zoning Board
of Appels has granted a 28G-a access to the property immediatly
to the east of Becky Johnson on the proviso that the right
of way.is properly installed in its proper place so there
is a proper right of way for access to the property and I
have gone to great lengths to speak to a Thomas Shea who
is a consellor to Chicago Title and they definetly are insuring
the access to the property. It just has to be in the right
Place. The road way as I said has to be moved and to the
best of my understanding Ms. Johnson is doing that and has
it staked and so on and so forth.
Ms. Scopaz: I thought that a copy of the location of the
right-of,way was supposed to be submitted for the Board.
Mr. B ruer: I don't known if they have or not, I don't know
if it is relevant in that I don't know if it is the position
of the Board to get involved in title questions.
Mr. Lessard: It is my understanding that it is on paper only
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Mr. Lessard: at the present time.
Mr. Bruer: The Becky Johnson right-of-way is a right-of-way
that extends from the existing right-of-way that the Raeburn
and Murphy piece, and I forget the other gentlemen's name,
and they have an additional.., the problem with the Johnson
property is that the right-of- way stopped at a marker and
they had to negotiate with the Bokina family for an additioal
right-of-way so that they had and that i understand is on
paper only
Mr. Lessard: The north/south from Oregon Road it has to
be physically put in
Mr. Bruer: It has to be physically put in, that is true.
Mr. Lessard: The only thing existing now is the fact that
it goes to the west.
Mr. Bruer: There is a road way and it meanders around the
right-of-way that is on paper and the one that is on paper
is the one that the Bokina's want and rightfully so.
Mr. Orlowski: You have access over the one to the East.
Mr. Bruer: Chicago is insuring my client that they have
it, and they have insured the other property immediately
to the west of which there is a house, minor subdivision
which I think the Board is aware of. A mortgage given by
a bank on it and the person has paid a lot of money for the
property,and he believes he has it too. And, nobody has
denied him the access and it is the same right-of-way, and
it is the same p~operty. And, the right-of-way does come
from the Baxter, it comes from two particular sales, the
Baxter sale and another one.
Mr. Orlowski: So, the Bokina right-of-way, actually going
up is not going to be used. Just the Baxter right-of-way
which is being used right now.
Mr. Bruer: Well, i don't think that you are using the proper
terms. There is a right-of-way from ORegon Road to the property
and it goes over the Bokina property, but there is a very
defined, it goes straight up, actually it is a right-of'way
up to the Sound and it is a right-of-way over the property
over the South of this property not quite to the Johnson
piece it goes, if you look at this map, that you have here
for the subdivision it shows you were the right-of-way goes,
at that point where the right-of-way goes into the Raebrun
piect that is where it stops as far as the Johnson piece.
But, it goes to thatpoint.
Mr. Orlowski: Alright, I believe we re-convened this hearing
be Mr. Angel and Ms.Murphy had some questions. I don't see
them here tonight or anyone representing them.
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Mr. Bruer: Mr. Chairman, all I can say is Mrs. Moore of
my office has advised me that late this afternoon, approximately
5:00 p.m. Mr. Angel returned my call and said that if anything
he would ]oin in the application. I have not spoken to him
so I don't know and that is all I can say.
Mr. Orlowski: We can take you r word for that.
Mrs. Moore: That is what he told me.
Mr. Orlowski: Okay. Any questions from the Board, Mr. Mullen,
(none); Mr. Latham (none); Mr. Edwards (none); Mr~ Emilita
(close it); Ms. Scopaz (none). Okay, being no further questions
I will declare this hearing closed and thank you for coming
down.
**Mr. Angel, Esq. arrived at the meeting at approximately
8:45 p.m., the time which he believed the public hearing
to be. The Secretary advised Mr. Angel that the Board had
closed the hearing; however, Mr. Bruer noted that Mr. Angel
would join in the applicatio~ if anything. Mr. Angel stated
that he had no objections to the application and asked that
the record be noted as such. Mr. Angel represents Mrs. Murphy
one of the landowners in the application.
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it
was
RESOLVED that whereas, a formal application for the approval
of a subdivision plat entitled "Reydon Court" located at
Southold (tax map no.1000 - 79-5-16) was submitted to the
Planning Board on October 24, 1986 , and the application fee
was submitted on October 23, 1986 and,
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held onsaid subdivision application
and plat at the Town Hall, Southold, New York, on Monday,
May 11, 1987 at 7:45 p.m., and
WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations
of the Town of Southold have been met by said subdivision
plat and application,
NOW, therefore, be itRESOLVED that the application.off. Daniel
Marcucci for approval of said Subdivision plat prepared by
Howard Young and last dated March 12, 1987, be approved and
the Chairman be authorized to endorse approval on said subdivision
plat, subject to the following conditions within six months
from the date of the resolution:
1. Payment of the inspection fee, 5% of the approved
bond estimate in the amount of $65,000.
2. Receipt_and acceptance of the performance.~bond,~
letter of credit or passbook in the amoun~ of $65,000 by
the Town Board.
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3. Filing of the covenants and restrictions as approved
by Town Attorney, Francis Yakaboski, Esq., with the Office
of the County Clerk and submitting a certified copy of same
to the Planning Board Office.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Muilen, Latham, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that whereas, a formal application for the approval
of a subdivision plat entitled "Ana G. Stillo" located at
Orient, tax map no. 1000-14-2-26 was submitted to the Planning
Board on April 20, 1987 and filing fee of S550 was also submitted
on April 20, 1987, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on said subdivison application
and plat at the Town Hall, Southold, New York on June 1,
1987 at 7:30 p.m., and
WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivi~on Regulations of
the Town of Southold have been met by said subdivision plat
and application,
NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Aha
G. Stillo for approval of said subdivision plat prepared
by Rod Van Tuyl, and last dated January 29, 1987, be approved
and the Chairman be authorized to endorse approval on said
subdivision plat, subject to the following conditions within
six months from the date of this resolution:
1. Receipt and compliance with the resolution of the
Suffolk County Planning Commission.
2. Notice of completion and approval of the access road
i~provements as_per the Board of Appeals decsion of April
2, 1987.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
Winds Way Building Corp.- The Board held action on this proposed
minor subdivision located at New Suffolk Avenue, Cutchogue
subject to a submission and review of drainage plans as requested.
Mr. and Mrs. Carmnie DiSpirito were present to discuss the
site plan approval with condition of June 1, 1987. ~Mr. DiSpirito
has submitted photographs to the Building Department which
were in the file for the Planning Board review. On Ju~e
1, 1987 the Planning Board had conditionally approved the
site plan for a two family dwelling at Young's Avenue, Southold
with a 10' buffer for plantings. Mr. DiSpirito explained
to the Board why he feld that this request should be amended.
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Mr. DiSpirto explained %hat he had no notice of the conditions
which the Board were considering for the June 1, resolution.
Mr. DiSpirto stated that an application for a one-family
house would be permitte~ on this parcel without any need
for. an application to either the Planning Board or the Board
of Appeals, however, he choose to apply for a two - family.
He further explained that with a one-family house there would
be no request for screening and he resented the thinking
that because he is building a two-family instead of a one-family
home it will be an eyesore to the community and will require
screening. He explained that this will be his families home
as well. Mr. DiSpirito had submitted photographs for the
Board's review with leggl two-familiy homes from Western
Suffolk for the Board t9 get an idea of how a two - family
would look. Mr. DiSpi~ito stated that he would incorporate
the ideas of these home~ with his own and build something
that he felt would not be an eyesore. The other photographs
submitted indicated the existing screening on the properties
adjacent to his. Mr. DiSpirto also stated that due to the
elevation,on the properties, any screening would not do much
anyway. Mr. DiSpirto s~ated that in the furture he would
landscape the property, however, he wished to do that at
his own discretion. He also felt that two-family was a benefit
to the community since ~t provided housing for people and
was larger than an apartment yet did not require that people
actually own the land a~d maintain same which could be costly.
The Board concurred wit~ Mr. DiSpirito's request and reasoning.
On a motion made by Mr./Mullen, seconded by Mr. Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board amend the
conditional resolution Of approval of June 1, 1987 for the
site plan proposal for Carmine and DonnaMarie DiSpirito to
delete the condition requesting tb_~at a landscape plan indicating
a 10' buffer from the e~isting houses be submitted. The amended
resolution will now rea~ as follows: "RESOLVED that th~
Southold Town Planning ~oard approve the site plan for Carmine
and Donna Marie DiSpiri~o for construction of a two-family
dwelling located at Young's Avenue, Southold, site plan survey
dated as amended May 4, 1987, (tax map no. 1000-55-2-p/o 1)"
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
Mr. DiSpirito expressed his thanks to Victor Lessard, Executive
Administrator, to has helped him with this project.
Zahra/Tabor Site Plan (tax map no. 1000-140-3-4) -
Mrs. Pat Moore, Esq. was present for the Board's review of
this site plan. This w~s not on the scheduled agenda, however,
Mrs. Moore requested that the Board review this. Mrs. Moore
stated that she had submitted an application to the Board
for Mary Tabor who is proposing an under three-hour day care
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on PSke Street in Mattituck. She stated that initially she
had gone to the Building Department and it was determined
that Planning Board approval would be require~, the property
is in a B zone. Mrs. Moore stated that the facility would
be a day care,nursery facility, howover, the code right now
does not allow for or specifically define nursery/day care
center or even something similiar that could fit this catagory.
Mrs. Moore stated that she believes personal service is tha
closest and most general definition that this use could fall
under. This use is permitted in a business zone, and Mrs.
Moore stated that she had hoped to get the Board to agree
with this. She stated that this is a service provided to
families who need someone to care for their children. She
stated that the code does not anticipate someone not being
able to do something with their property, common law allows
you to do anything with your property and zoning restricts
that, however, there are cases that are currently coming
out that if the code does not specifically include a use
it is not excluded. Therefore, Mrs. Moore felt that just
because a use is not specifically excluded or does not fit
into one of the sections in the zoning, this does not mean
that it is not permitted in the code. Mrs.Moore asked that
the Board make, on their own motion, a request to the Zoning
Board to tell which classification this falls under and she
requested~that this be done on the Board's own motion so
that a decision could be made on the determination of which
catagory this falls under in a timely fashion. Mrs. Moore
felt that with the Board of Appeal'S interpertation the Planning
Board can be directed to approve or deny this application.
Mr. Orlowski stated that the Planning Board will have to
consult with counsel prior to any decision. Mr. Orlowski
felt that the Board did not have any objection to the application
as it is proposed, however, it was now known how the Board
could handle this proposal with the existing zoning. Mr.
Orlowski questioned if this could be classified as a school
and Mrs. Moore stated that it wouldn't ~a~under therequirements
of a school, it is in a sense a babysitting services. Mrs.
Moore explained that this does not fall under the social
services law which is a requirement of a school which goes
more than three hours. Mrs. Moore stated that this will
be for pre-school children who will be cared for for under
three hours. Mr. Orlowski stated that this can start as
a day care and then be expanded and the Board did not want
to have any problems with regard to this. It was the consensus
of the Board to refer to counsel and advise Mrs. Moore upon
receipt of legal advice.
The Breakers at Lands End (tax map no. 1000- 35-1-25):
Mr. Henry E. Radnor, Jr. as agent, and Mr. Steve Hyman, project
engineer were present for the Board's review and discussion
of this proposal for 350 condominium unitS located at Greenport.
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Mr. Emilita, Planning Consultant, requested information with
regard to how the drainage system for this project is going
to work, beginning with the diagram of the storage summary
for pond system. Mr. Emilita's specific question begins
with pond F leading into pond E, etc which builds up an increasing
deficiet in storage. Mr. Hyman explained that the Town code
requires storage from a6" rainfall, and pond F is for tributary
area F, pond F is the most upstream~pond. This pond cannot
store 6" The normal water level of the pond is the water
level of the pond when there is no rain. Mr. Hyman explained
that if it starts to rain there is an overflow structure
so if it rained lightly it would go into the structure and
into the drywell. As soon as the capacity of the drywell
becomes exceeded the water level increases in the pond up
to the high water level so the storeage that we are providing
is between the normal and the high. At the high water level
it is used~up-so that the overflow structure would empty
into the next downstream pond. Mr. Hyman stated that more
drainage is provided than is required and ai1 the deficiets
are made up. ME. Hyman stated that this is for all drainage
of the site except roof~area. Mr. Hyman stated that the
roof drainage was based on a 2" rainfall which Mr. Emilita
questioned. Mr Hyman stated that for any dry wells designed
in any other Town he has based it on'.2" rainfall storage.
Mr. Emilita questioned what would happen if we get a 6" rain
onthe roof. Mr. Hyman stated that in the case the dry wells
would be over taxed. Mr. Emitita stated that a,six inch
rainfall should be expected to fall uniformly across the
site. Mr. Emilita also questioned the ponds proposed and
the existing pond which is to be deepened and widened, and
what would be done With the excess material. Mr. Hyman stated
that the applican'ts attorney, Mr. Lark, had spoken to Mr.
Lessard with regard, and Mr. Hyman did not know what the
applicant was proposing to do with the excess fill. Mr.
Raynor addressed this question be answering that~the excess
fill will be stockpiled and eventually be used onsite and
with a permit from the Town will be trucked off site. Mr.
Emilita questioned if there will be a provision for the containment
of the stockpiled fill. Mr. Raynor staed that since the
project will be done in phaSes the fill will be stockpiled
in the latter phases until such time as will be used and
self-contained on site. Mr. Emilita also questioned if a
construction staging plan was submitted and how this would
corresond~with.the site plan and marketing plan for the proposal.
Mr. Raynor stated that this will not relate to marketing
since this is subject tothe economy, however, the construction
relates to the contract agreementwith the Village of Greeport
for water and sewer. Mr. Emilita stated ~ha,~ this did not
answer the concern with regard to final disposition and
management during the construction stages. Mr. Emilita stated
that he would like to have the Board consider this issue
be final approval of this plan. Mr. Raynor stated that he
felt that this would come under the jurisdiction of the Building
Department at the time of permit with that department and
would be not of importance at this time. Mr. Emilita, as
well as, Valerie Scopaz, expressed concern with regard to
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the scenic easement agreement and the construction of ponds
within that area, since this would mean that there is a disturbance
of the terrain within the easement area. Mr. Hyman addressed
the Chairman at this time and advised that he designed the
roof drainage at 2" rainfall because that was what was discussed
with the Board at previous meetings. Mr. Hyman stated that
the 6" roof runoff could have been addressed in the ponds
if that is what the Board had asked for, however, Mr. Hyman
recalled that it was agreed not to since putting it into
dr~wells would eliminate freezing in the winter. Mr. Orlowski
stated that the Board felt that a drainage problem was apparent
on the plan. No one in the Town, except for Mr.~ Emilita,
really had the expertise to review this plan for drainage
and the chairman did not want to endorse the plan if the
drainage was incorrect. He stated that there is no provision
for inspection fees to send an inspector our for inspections.
The Board stated that they wanted to proceed cautiously
with this proposal since it is the largest project in the
Town. Mr. Orlowski questioned._if the applicant is willing
to pay for inspections and review by an engineer. Mr. Raynor
stated that this is not unreasonable. Mr. Orlowski stated
that what the applicant has paid forinspections ($5000)
will not be sufficient for the review which will be required.
Mr~Ortowski stated that he was concerned and did not what
to sign a map which had obvious~draiage problems. Mr.
Raynor stated that there will be considerable inspections
onsite when the prgject is started. Mr. Raynor stated that
the 100' set back was discussed and it was decided that
there would be no building in this area, no foundations
wo~ld be constructed and it was stipulated that the~grade
will toed away from the bluff. Mr. Raynor stated that
for reasonable and ordinary expenses to protect the Town
he did not see a problem for payment af inspection fee
payment~ however, bonding would be a very time~consuming process.
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOVLED that'the Southold Town Planning Board obtain an
estimate from lan engineer to review and give necessary input
and advise the applicant~to, fund it accordingly so the project
can move along in a professional manner.
Discussion on the motion: Mr. Raynor stated that there
was no problem with this, however, in order the adequately
fund a project of this size, a signed site plan is needed.
The applicant wiltnot be in a positin to go forward with
what the Baord needs unless they have a proper instrument
to bring to financial institutions. Mr. Raynor stated that
that requires a signature on the part of the Board. Mr.
Raynor stated that he saw no obejctions to the payment of
inspection fees to protect~the Town for a reasonable and
ordinary amount, however, he did see a problem if this delayed
the signature on the map.
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8:30 p.m.
On a motion'made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board recess to
executive session to confer with counsel with regard to
possible litigation.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullei Latham, Edwards
9:00 p.m.
On amotion~made by Mr. Mulien, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning
~regular meeting following the executive
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen
TheChairman read a proposed resolution
Board re-convene the
session.
Latham, Edwards
~th regard to the
Site Plan for the Breakers at Lands to Mr. Raynor for his
consideration. The resolution is as follows, to wit:
"RESOLVED that the site plan of the Breakers at Lands End
be approved subject to a final review and continuing inspection
by an ingineer or con'sulting firm to be appointed by the
Pllanning Board of the Town of Southold and with the further
proviso that the Planning Board, under the offices of its
site plan review authority shall have the right to continue
to review the project during its construction phase with
the engineering and consulting fees for such proviso to
be born by the applicant and subject to the further proviso
that dry wells or other drainage facilities shallnot be
placed or constructed within 100' of the buffer zone as
skown on the site plan."
Mr. Orlowski stated that the Board was intending to have
an engineer review the project as it is under construction
and as it is now. Mr. Raynor stated that there was nothing
in this resolution which indicated that the Chairman would
endorse the site plan. Mr. Orlowski stated that the site
plan would be signed after review by the engineer, which
could happen in the near furture. Mr. Raynor requested that
he be allowed time to discuss the matter with counsel.
See further discussion ~on 'Page 15.
Cliffside Associates/Tide Markc (tax map no. 1000-45-1-1):
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen,
the following action was taken:
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Notice of significant effect on the environment
Pursuant to the proVisiOns of Aticle 8 of the ENvironmental
conservation Law, Part 617 of Title 6 of the New York State
Codes, the Southold Town Planning Board, as lead agency,
does hereby determine that the action described below is
Unlisted and is likely to have a significant effect on the
environment.
DESCRIPTION.OF~ACTION:
This proposal is for 76 motel units located at County
Route 48, Greenport, tax map no. 1000-45-1-1. The proposal
is to be known as Tide Mark, principals are "Cliffside
Assoicates".
RESASONS SUPPORTING THIS DETER~INATION:
(Dee also Positive declaration declared by ZBA for previous proposal
Which has been revised)
-i.~ A complete traffic study is necessary to properly
assess the impacts at Route 25 and Chapel Lane, traffic
safety and flow, and visibility of oncoming traffic from
either a westerly direction or easterly direction within
the "s-turns" along Route 25 (particularly at the highest
spped permitted by law in this area).
2. A complete study is necessary as to the effects on
the Long Island Sound due to soil erosion, alteration of
surface drainage and water runoff caused by new construction,
regarding and new roads.
3. A complete study is necesssary as to the impact
of this new constructin, its disruptive effects on the neighborhood
(including but not limited to nearby residences and existig
nursing home residences);
4. A complete study is necessary as to the effects of
the quality of ground waterwit~ water source such as a
public water system with the Village of Greenport.
5. A complete study ~s necessary as to the effects
of the quality of drinking ground water, pollution and the .surrounding
environment by this project.
6.There is concern with regard to the bluff and beach
which must be protected during and after construction.
It is hereby requested that the applicant and/or his
agent furnish our department as lead agency witha-Draft
Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) in accordance with .
theNYS DEpartment of Envirionmental Coservation Act, Article
8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, and Section 44-4
of the Town Code ~ · ~
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Further information may be obtained by contacting Dian~3
M. Schultze, Secretary, Southold Town Planning Board, Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Latham, seconded by Mr. Mullen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept and
request compliance with the memorandum from Planninq Consultant,
David Emilita, of Szepatowski Associates, dated May 27,
1987 with regard to the Draft Environmental Impact Statement
submitted for the proposal of "Cliffside~Associates. / Tidemark.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
On a motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept and
request compliance with the correspondence from Highway
Superintendent, Raymond L. Jacobs, dated May 27, 1987 with
regard to the drainage for the major subdivision of James
Cohill, located at Mattituck, tax map no .1000-107-1-2.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Orlowski,Mullen, Latham, Edwards
Franis F. Adams (tax map no. 1000-3-3-3.~-
Mr. Thomas McVann, Esq. was present to discuss this application
to the Board for a lot line change located at Fishers Island.
Mr. McVann explained why he was again coming before the
Board for a lot line change on the property when the Board
had previously granted a lot line change in December 1986.
Mr. McVann stated that the property was under acontract
of sale which is still pending and the contract vendee visited
the property with the architect and they came to the conclusion
of how they really wanted to develope the property. Mr.
McVann submitted a copy of the rendering by the architect
for the proposed residence to Mr. Edwards. Mr. Edwards
questioned the proposed tennis court which is shown on Lot
No. 1, and why they did not just eliminate that lot line
and make one large parcel. Mr. McVann stated that it is
three homesites under the Olmstead Plan'and the contract
vendee, Mr. O~Brien, wishes to keep the estate and make
it conform to zoning as well. Mr. McVann also explained
that a gate house will be constructed on the lot with the
tennis court, but Mr. McVann was proposing that his client
keep the lots conforming with the zoning to avoid problems
in the future. Mr. Edward stated that the east end of the
Island is zoned for three-acre residential lots under the
Master Plan and Zoning.Map update. Mr. Edwards recommended
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that the lots be made to conform to this zoning since it
is close to being adopted. Mr. Edwards also noted that
the previous lot line change which the Board approved in
1986 left all of the lots very close to three acres and
now this proposal reduces lot no. 1 to just over two acres.
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he was not aware of the proposed zoning, however,
his client's intent to create any undersized lots.
. stated that the lots are still large, however,
is was concerned with the creation.~of lots 19ss
.ing. Mr. Edwards recommended that the Board hold
· on this prposal until further review. Mr. Edwards
.t he is considering the future zoning of the Island.
· stated that he had received Department of Envirionmental
.on, DEC, approval and the DEC had approved the
f the residences. Mr. McVann had also received
,epartment approval for the proposal. It was
~nsensus of the Board to hold~!this application
r review.
Local Law to Establish a Landmark Preservation Commission -
The Board reviewed t~is proposed Local Law with regard to
establishing a landmark preservation commission and noted
that the Town Board had requested that the Planning Board
refer their comments on this. Mr. Ortowski stated that
he felt that the program should be voluntary and he felt
that the criteria was too strict. Mr. Orlowski felt that
the other Boardmembers should also review the law and submit
their comments and it was the consensus of the Board to
hold any recommendations until all of the members have given
input.
Frank Sawicki (tax map no. 1000-15-3-12.1):
This proposal for a minor subdivision located at County
Route 48, Southold was also pending before the Board of
Appeals for insufficient lot width. This matter was to
go'before the Board of Appeals June 18 for a public hearing.
The Planning Board had no input at this time since the
variance application for the insufficient width is the jurisdiction
of the Board of Appeals and the Board had no other co~mments
with regard to layout at this time.
Samuel K.C.KoRper(tax map no. 1000-86-4-1.2) :
Mr. Kopper appeared before to discuss this set off proposal
located at Indian Neck Lane, Peconic, specifically wi!th
regard to the access road improvements and approval which
was a condition of approval of the set off. Mr. Will:iam
F. Mullen,Jr., Boardmember, abstained from any discuslsion
with regard to this since he is related to a potential buyer
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of the lots. The Chairman noted that Mr. Davlis and
Lnning Board had requested that the right-of-way be
~d to a width of 15' for access to the lots. Mr.
stated that the requirement for 15' with 3' shoulders
stringent and that his prospective buyers feel this
:o. He stated that he was very anxious to finalize
~tter and requested that the Board consider a reduction
road width. Mr. Kopper also questioned who would
~d to do the road profile which was requested and
~irman advised the surveyor would do this. Mr. Orlowski
~ated that the Board has never varied from a 15' width
~ess roads. Mr. Latham stated that this is the Board's
and they cannot vary from that. Mr. Orlowski advised
,per to have his surveyor prepare a road profile and
it to the Board who would have Mr. John W. Davis
it. Mr. Kopper also brought the Board up-to-date
status of the Health Department application which
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s at Lands End:
Fy E. Raynor, Jr. came back into the Board after
discussing the proposed Board resolution with the applicant's
attorney. Mr. Raynor stated that counsel had advised him
that they should not go forward with the Board's proposed
resolution at this time. Mr. Raynor stated that the attorney
was concerned with the fact that the resolution did not
specify a time to obtain the engineering review and no specific
dollar amount of payment indicated. Mr. Raynor also stated
that the attorney was concerned because the resolution does
not guarantee the the chairman would endorse the survey,
and without that the applicant can not go ahead with getting
the necessaryfunding. Mr. Orlowski stated that the Board
would not take any action on this tonight, but would schedule
a meeting with the applicants to discuss this. Mr. Raynor
thanked the efforst of the Board and concurred that a meeting
scheduled in the near future with attorneys for all sides
would be the best way to handle this. It was the consensus
of the Board to schedule a meeting on this matter prior
to any further action.
Being no further business to come befor~e~.~t~e~,J~o~k~.d,_~n
motion ma e ,atham, seconded
the meeting adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
ResDect full~
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Bennett Orlows~i%- J~ 'Chairman