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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-04/11/1988Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 TELEPHONE (516) 765~1938 PLANNING BOARD 'OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD PLANNING BOARD MINUTES APRIL 11, 1988 The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on Monday, April 11, 1988 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold. PRESENT WERE: Bennett Orlowski,Jr., Chairman Member William Mullen Member G. Ritchie Latham Member Richard G. Ward Member Kenneth Edwards Executive Administrator Victor Lessard Town Planner Valerie Scopaz Planner Melissa Spiro Secretary Jill Thorp Mr. Orlowski: Good evening, I would like to call this meeting to order. I would like to make a motion to set Monday, April 25, 1988 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road Southold as the time and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Mutlen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mull.eh, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Board to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of February 22, 1988. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Edwards: Second. PLANNING BOARD PAGE 2 April 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have John Sepenoski- Board to authorize the Chairman to endorse the final surveys dated as amended December 18, 1987 for this set off located on Middle Road, Southold. SCTM ~1000-69-4-9. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Robert Melrose- Board to make SEQRA determination. Also Board to set Monday, April 25, 1988, at 7:45 p.m. for a Public Hearing on the final approval of this minor subdivision for 3 lots on 3.547 acres located off Main Road and Albertson Lane, Arshamomaque. SCTM ~1000-52-5-58. 'I~ll entertain a motion in regards to SEQRA to make a Negative Declaration. It is an unlisted action. Mr. Latham: I'll Move it. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. And to set the hearing for the 25th. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr.Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. PLANNING BOARD PAGE 3 APRIL 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Frank Sawicki Board to make a SEQRA determination. SCTM 91000-51-3-12.1. Mr. Latham: I'll move it. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded to make a negative declaration. All those in favor? Vote of the Board;Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Board to approve the maps. Mr. Ward: Subject to Health Department approval, so moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded to approve subject to Health Department approval. All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes; Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Daniel Marcucci Board to take action on the sketch plan for this major subdivision. This proposal is for 10 lots on 22.4612 acres located off Main Road, Orient. SCTM ~1000-18-2-34. I think that the Board has no problem with that. We would like to ask the applicant to change the road layout a little bit. I think we could approve it subject to that change. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Bruer: Mr. Chairman, the applicant is here. I would be happy to... Mr. Orlowski: Alright, in accordance with the next application of Helen Schmidt, which is a parcel adjacent to this, we would like to move the road over to the Schmidt side and run them together. Mr. Bruer: Leaving the yield the same? Mr. Orlowski: Yes, everything will stay the same. We can grant sketch subject to that change. Mr. Bruer: Alright, I see no objection to that. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards Planning Board Page 4 April 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Helen Schmidt- Board to take action on the sketch plan for this major subdivision. This proposal is for 4 lots on 7.888 acres off Main Road, Orient. SCTM $1000-51-3-i2.1 Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. orlowski: Subject to the changes of running that cul-de-sac in that subdivision also. Motion made and second. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Walsh Park - Board to take action on the sketch plan for this subdivision for affordable housing located on Fishers Island. First we will start with the Board to take Lead Agency status. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Regards to action on the sketch, what is the pleasure? Mr. Ward: Move for sketch approval based on using a yield map showing the density and the appropriate lot sizes. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on t he motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. We have SEQRADeterminations: Blue Point Properties- Board to declare lead agency status under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Planning Board Page 5 April 11, 1988 Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Cove Beach Estates- Board to declare lead agency status under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. SCTM 91000-22-3-18.3,15.1 Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. We will send the Long Environmental Assessment Form to Mr. Emilita's for his review. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Marina Bay Club- Board to make a decision on the acceptance of the supplemental DEIS for this proposal located in New Suffolk. Mr. Emilita has reviewed it and says we recommend that the document be deemed incomplete until these issues listed below have been adequately addressed. There is about three pages of them, I won't go into them. What is the Board pleasure on Mr. Emilita's report? Mr. Mullen: Recommend compliance. Mr. Latham: I'll second the motion. Mr. Orlowski: Motion Made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Plannirg Board Page 6 April 11, 1988 Mr. on Emi Orlowski: Next We have Tidemark- Board to make a decision he acceptance of the DEIS for this site plan. Also Mr. ita's report with the DEIS is sufficient and its assessment with visual impact and the construction impact. Four page report we have here. What is the pleasure of the Board. Mr. Ward: Vote for compliance with the report. Mr. Lathsm: I'll second the motion. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next at 7:45 we have a public hearing. Before the public hearing I would like to declare lead agency for George H. Waterman III located at Fishers Island. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Now I will open the hearing. We have proof of publication in the Suffolk Times and also in the Long Island Traveler/Watchman. At this time everything is in order and I will ask if there are any objections to this subdivision? Hearing none are there any endorsements to this subdivision? Mr. Reddington: Gentlemen, My name is John Reddingtion, I am here on behalf of the applicant who couldn't be here tonight. He would like to respond if there is any problem with the application at all. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Any other endorsements of this subdivision? Hearing none is there anyone out there that is neither pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this subdivision that would be of interest to the Board? Mr. Ray Edwards: I have a question on this, Mr. Chairman, I am wondering why something like this that involves Fishers Island is not posted in the New London Day? Ms. Spiro: It was posted in the New London Day. Mr. Orlowski: We never got the receipt, so I was not looking at it when I read that off. My apologies. It was posted. Any other comments? Questions from the Board? Mr. Mullen? Planning Board Page 7 April 11, 1988 Mr. Mullen: None Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham? Mr. Latham: No questions. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Ward? Mr. Ward: Just that it's a lot line change not a subdivision. Mr. Orlowski: Right. Mr. Edwards? Mr. Edwards: no. Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz? Any questions? Ms. Scopaz: No. Mr. Orlowski: Being no further questions, I'll declare this hearing closed. Thank you for coming down. Mr. Ortowski: Next we have Anthony and Sally Pirrera- Board to make SEQRA determination. This is also unlisted. A negative declaration is in order. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Young's Avenue Development Association- Board to make SEQRA determination. This is unlisted. A negative declaration, would be in ordered. Mr. Latham: So move. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. *********************************** Mr. Orlowski: Scott Kaufman - Board to make SEQRA determination. Planning Board Page 8 April 11, 1988 Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Frances Greenberger- Board to make SEQRA determination. This is also an unlisted action. A negative declaration, would be in order. Mr. Latham: I'll move it. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: East Wind Corporation- Board to make a SEQRA determination. Mr. Latham: I'll move a negative declaration. Mr. Edwards: Second it. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Youn~'s Marina- Board to declare lead agency status under SEQRA. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Planning Board Page 9 April 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Michael Adams- Board to make SEQRA determination and it would be under a conditional negative declaration, subject to a traffic study. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Ms. Scopaz: Mr. Chairman, I think you should know, just for the record, that this is regard to the Michael Adams set-off because there is also a site plan and we want to make a distinction between the two. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Mr. Orlowski: Stype Brothers- Board to declare lead agency. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Brisotti and Silkworth- Board to declare lead agency status under SEQRA. Mr. Latham: Move it. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? so ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Eli3ah's Lane Section 2- Board to make SEQRA determination. Conditional Negative Declaration subject to the water approvals. Mr. Latham: I'll move that subject to water approvals. Planning Board Page 10 April 11, 1988 Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Elijah's Lane Section 3- This is the same thing. Mr. Latham: I'll move it again. Same conditions. Mr. Orlowski: Subject to those conditions. Motion made and seconded? Any questions on the motion? Mr. Popkin: Question Mr. Chairman; are you referring to Health Department approval? Is that what you mean? Mr. Orlowski: Yes. All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Site Plans- Cliletti and Claps- Board to send this site plan to the Building Department for certification. SCTM $1000-63-1-17,18. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Hamilton Bank- Board to take action on this site plan. We have a problem with this Drive-up with the way it is. I think the only alternative we have is to just deny. SCTM ~1000-140-3-34. Mr. Ward: Move for denial. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Planning Board Page 11 April 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Southold Lumber- Board to send this site plan to the Building Department for certification. SCTM $1000-63-2-28. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Latham, Mullen, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Arthur JunGe- Board to give final approval to this site plan. And also Board to authorize the chairman to endorse the final surveys for this site plan. SCTM $1000-96-1-19. Mr. Latham: Move that. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Field Inspections and Engineer's reports. Reydon Shores- Board to accept and request compliance with the Engineer's report dated march 30, 1988. SCTM ~1000-79-5-16. Mr. Mutlen: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Russett Acres- Board to accept and request compliance with the Engineer's report dated March 30, 1988. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Planning Board Page 12 April 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Stype Brothers- Board to accept and request compliance with the Engineer's report dated March 30, 1988. SCTM ~1000-122-7-6.6 Mr. Latham: So moved° Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any question on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Brisotti and Silkworth, Inc.- Board to accept and request compliance with the Engineer's report dated March 30, 1988. SCTM ~1000-122-7-6.8. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. *********************************** Mr. Orlowksi: Elijah's Lane Estates~ Section 3- Board to accept and request compliance with the Engineer's report dated march 30, 1988. SCTM #1000-108-4-p/o7.1. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Planning Board Page 13 April 11, 1988 Mr. Orlowski: Hillcrest Estates- Board to accept staff field inspection report. Which we have here. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. All these reports are on file in the office, if anybody is interested they can stop by at any time and read them. Mr. Orlowski: Board to make a SEQRA determination on the set off of Thorton Smith. It is an unlisted action, what is the pleasure of the Board? Mr. Edwards: Move for Negative Dec. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. O.K. It is 8 p.m. Public Hearing on the question of final approval of the set off of Thorton Smith. SCTM %1000-121-1-p/o19. We have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler/Watchman also in the Suffolk Times. At this time everything is in order for a p,~hlic hearing. I will ask if there are any objections to this set off? Hearing none are there any endorsements to this set off? Neil Smith: Yes, I am hear on behalf of my father. I am Neil Smith. I will be happy to answer any questions anyone might have. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Any other endorsements. Hearing none, is there anyone out there neither pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this subdivision that will be of interest to this Board? Hearing none, any questions from the Board? Mr. Mullen? Mr. Mullen: None. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham? Mr. Latham: No questions. Mr. Ward: No. Planning Board Page 14 April 11, 1988 Mr. Edwards: No. Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz? Ms. Scopaz: No. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Being no further comments or questions I will declare this hearing closed. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Next changes of zone. Griswald-Terry-Glover- Board to make reco~u~endation to the Town Board on this change of zone for the American Legion Hall. What is the pleasure of the Board? Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, with the discussions that we have had, I would like to move with the consensus is. Is that we recommend denial of the change of zone based on the fact that the long range goals would not be served by such a change of zone. In that it is not the change of zone that will be in conformance with our proposed master plan. It would be a commercial zone that would intrude into a more natural zoning progression out from the center of our hamlet. Although the Griswold-Terry-Glover is an ongoing organization and does render a great service to the Town that we feel that the long range will best he served by not creating a change of zone at this time. So, I move that we recommend denial. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Latham: It will be existing nonconforming as it is then? Mr. Ward: As it is now. Mr. Bruer: Can I ask the Board a question? Everybody is aware of the structure that exists there. Does anybody have any suggestions if it was stop being used as an American Legion Post what that building could be used for? In terms of your long anticipation of the future growth of that ~particular spot. You must have some thought on it. Mr. Mullen: I don't think it is our position to tell what is going to come in the future. Mr. Bruer: I know, but, you must have some category of what that building could be used for. It is a monstrosity other than being used as a Legion Post. Mr. Mullen: We will turn it over to a likable situation, that's all. Planning Board Page 15 April 11, 1988 Mr. Bruer: To a likable situation? It's not transferable, I don't think. Mr. Mullen: VFW. Mr. Bruer: I don't think we have a visible VFW in town now. Mr. Mullen: Some other nonprofit organization. Mr. Bruer: To buy it and use it. Mr. Mullen: That's right. Mr. Bruer: Thank you very much. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Carr-Wanat change of zone application. Do you have some comments on this, Ms. Scopaz. Ms. Scopaz: Basically the applicant met with the Town Board at a Scoping session. I represented the Planning Board at this meeting. The Town Board has taken Lead Agency statuson the change of zone and has asked for a environmental impact statement to be prepared. We have had some questions about the coordination with the Planning Board because the Planning Board has lead agency on the Norris Estates subdivision proposal. The applicant is proposing to use the Carr/Wanat change of zone as alternative to placing the code density on the Norris property. What was agreed to at the scoping session was that the Planning Board would retain its lead agency status. In the draft environmental impact state when it is prepared, it has not been submitted to the Planning Board yet, the alternative section will include, among other alternatives, a very detailed description of the Carr/Wanat property as an alternative. Basically the To~ Board will wait for the Planning Board's review of the draft environmental impact statement for the Norris property before proceeding with the change of zone application. That is basically what was agreed to. Mr. Orlowski: We won't hold any determinations at this time. Ms. Scopaz: The question is, that one of the alternatives will include the Carr/Wanat property. That is basically the agreement that was reached there. I think theBoard could convey to the applicant that it understands that and that that is the nature of the coordination between the two lead agencies. That you are going to do the review as a subdivision and make, forward your comments to the Town Board after you have completed your review of the draft environmental impact statement. So you still have review over the subdivision procedure. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Does the Board have any coLmuent to make on this right now. Board: No. Mr. Orlowski: No comment. ~ Planning Board Page 16 April 11, 1988 Mr. Raynor: I just want to amend something that Ms. Scopaz has stated. The Wanat property is to be used as an alternative to the project and this was admitted by Mr. Emilita, not by the applicant. It was the Town's suggestion to proceed under this set of restrictions. I will just like that to go into the record so we know were it came from initially. We are in agreement with proceeding. We will file with you a draft environmental impact statement. At that time there will enough information, so the Board can proceed With their recommendations to the Town Board on the change of zone. Mr. Orlowski: Will there be any more information coming from the County in regards to water? Other than the fact that, yes, there is water there. Mr. Ralrnor: We have included in the draft environmental impact statement all the testing done by H2M as well as the furnishings that report through the Health Department to the Board in regards to two test sites that were done in this present winter. Also this Board will be given the water distribution system as well as sewage treatment plant with regard to onsite containment with regardto the intial application on multiple cells. Mr. Orlowski: And you will have Health Department approval on that? Mr. Raynor: I can't answer that questions because at this junction the final engineering designs with regard to water and sewer plants has not been completed and the final submission has not been given to the Department of Health Services. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Mr. Raynor: This will be compacted within the next month and be sent. Mr. Orlowski: Alright. Mr. Raynor: Mr. Chairman, I should state that applicant is desirous of knowing in writing where the Board's position is as to whether they agree to what Mr. Emilita has stated as far as an alternative to this DEIS. I have spoken to Ms. Scopaz concerning this. The applicant is a~out to, again, spend a number of ten of thousands of dollars to finishthe compliance. And is looking for some recognition that it is a viable alternative to study both these properties in a parallel type action. Some indication from your Board will be greatly appreciated. We don't want to whistle in the dark. Mr. Orlowski: Well, we don't want to make any suggestions in the dark and get your hopes up. We would like to see if density at the Norris property is what you say it is. To do that you have to show us if you can provide sewer and water. And so far we have not been satisfactorily provided with that. Mr. Raynor: I guess our question to you is if we could answer those sewer and water questions, is it a viable alternative to Planning Board Page 17 April 11, 1988 proceed with the two sites that has been suggested to us by the Town. Mr. Orlowski: Does the Board have any comment at this point in time? Mr. Mullen: I concur with your statement, I would like to see the sewer and water situation. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Ralrnor is also asking, if they do provide the sewer and water, will this alternative be suitable to this Board at this point. Mr. Mullen: I would have to give it consideration at that time. Mr. Ward: I see where the applicant is headed. I think that we should get back to you on that. Mr. Ralrnor: Alright, because if it is not a viable alternative, quite honestly it is a very ...hardship to proceed and not to follow as the zoning exist on this piece of property. Mr. Orlowski: It's a good question. Mr. Ra~or: Thank you. Thank you for your consideration. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. The Board will be making field inspection on Long Pond Estates Section 1 and also on Franklynville. We will probably do it this Friday. Discussions: Ore,on Heights-Board to accept the Letter of Credit. What is the pleasure of the Board? For recommendations to the Town Board to accept this. Mr. Ward: Is there an expiration date on that one? Mr. Mullen: I want to call your attention to the fact that the note states, and I quote "Must be presented on or before no later then March 1, 1989". So it is not an open end situation. It does have an expiration. We have marked our files accordingly. Mr. Orlowski: What is the pleasure. Mr. Mullen: Acceptance. Mr. Latham: Second it. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mullen, Latham, Ward, Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Next we have Daniel Jacoby- Board to discuss this application with the applicant. Planning Board Page 18 April 11, 1988 Mr. Ehlers: Good Evening, my name is Richard Ehlers, law offices at the corner of Lincoln and Griffing Avenue in Riverhead. May I hand out the exhibit for the Board's consideration? Calculation of the tax map and the surrounding parcels. Mr. Jacoby is the owner of a 10 plus or minus acre parcel, which appears on your map as lot number five off Laurel Lake. That is at the end of the Horton Subdivision. What causes Mr. Jacoby to be before your Board, is that in 1986 Mr. Jacoby and Mr. Horton came before your Board for a minor subdivision on his greenhouse property. Mr. Jacoby had a right-of-way over the Horton property which was not in a location that this Board felt that the permanent right-of-way should be to Mr. Jacoby's property. After lengthy discussions between myself and Gail Wickham on behalf of the Horton's, it was agreed that the right-of-way that Jacoby had be moved and certain parcels of land would be transferred to straighten out a boundary line dispute between the two parties. The Jacoby house is part of the old Camp Maloy structures that were there many years ago. The house is basically small, cramped and not very comfortable. Mr. Jacoby is an older man, retired and his wife frankly has said if you don't get me a better house to live in I am not going to come out here any more. As a result of the negotiations with the Hortons the question came up what can we do if anything to put a better residence on this site? Originally we were going to come in for a set off, but it was my advice to them since they were concurring the fees of the survey and the appearances to the Board that they go for a minor subdivision because the are elderly people and that will assist them with their estate plan. Your Board has made a field inspection and as a result recommended that the right-of-way be continued through the property to the southerly side of the Jacobyproperty. And it is that question that I put before your Board. In the Horton agreement which I believe that was reviewed by the Town Attorney and approved by your Board, although I don't have any proof of that, it specifically states that we may not give access to the lots to the south of us over the right-of-way that we have previously enjoyed. So the amended right-of-way as approved by your Board limited our ~hility to give any access to the Hortons to the' south. Secondly, I drove down therethis evening and the Hortons yet to develop the right-of-way in any way. It is still a dirt road. I have a pick UP truck. It was a fairly bumpy road to the Jacoby house. Evidently the Hortons have been able to build houses down there, without benefit of improving the driveway. The Jacoby's are not desirous in having this become a north-south thoroughfare. I don't think your Board wants to turn the meandering lane near the lake into a north south road at that location. It is hilly and bumpy and .it curves a lot. So we would like you to rescind your earlier reco~m~,endation that requests the right-of-way through the property and the building of the cul-de-sac at the southerly end of the property. That is basically my purpose of being here to try and have some dialogue with the Board on the advisability on that cul-de-sac. Then to hopefully to submit such further map as you direct us to submit. Mr. Orlowski: Well, our concern is with the property to the south and what is going to happen with it some day. Planning Board Page 19 April 11, 1988 Mr. Ehlers: Respectfully, the property to the south has quite large access on State Road 25. It would seem to not be the most logical position to bring the traffic way down from Sound Avenue and possible impact the lake front with passerbys and unnecessary traffic. When the parcel to the south appears to have seven hundred odd feet of road frontage on State Route 25 and fully capable of supporting its own road access. Mr. Orlowski: Well, this will also act as a second ingress and egress to that parcel. What is the Board's co~m~ent on this? Mr. Ward: That was our main concern was that there was no other way in and out of that. As if and when the Horton parcel is developed with more houses we really have pretty much a long dead end roadway. Mr. Ehlers: Maybe my client misunderstood the Horton application. He understood that that was the end of the Horton development. Is there a different subdivision pending before this Board with Horton? Mr. Orlowski: We don't know which one is pending with Horton right now. What we are concerned with now is just your application and when we are going to put the right-of-way and where we are going to let it extend to. Mr. Ehlers: The Horton right-of-way moved the right-of-way to the west. The Jacoby property has a dell, I guess you would call it, in that area. It doesn't seem to be the best place to build an extensive road just on the whim that something may happen in the future, so that is another argument we have against it. We would really hate to see a major north south road. You have old Aldrich's lane just to the west there which the Town can choose to approve as it desires. Mr. Ortowski:Any chance of getting that proposed? Ingress staked, so the Board can take a look at exactly where it comes from. Mr. Ehlers: That will be something we can do. Mr. Orlowski: What do you think? Mr. Ward: We could take another look at it. Mr. Ehlers: Would like us to stake were Horton's properties easement has relocated to the Right-of-Way entrance to the Jacoby parcel. Mr. Orlowski: Yes, and on your survey. I think we have a discrepancy just looking at it from the field. We can't really tell. It will give us a better idea to see how it lines up. Mr. Ehlers: How should I arrange that? Mr. Orlowski: As soon as it is staked give us a call and we will take a look at it. Planning Board Page 20 April 11, 1988 Mr. Ehlers: O.K. Thank you very much. Mr. Orlowski: Seeing that I have nothing further on my agenda, I I will ask if there are any questions from the Board, Mr. Mullen? Mr. Mullen: None. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham? Mr. Latham: No questions. Mr. Orlowski: Mr- Ward? Mr. Ward: No questions, other then the fact that, are we going to meet with Mr. Bruer? Mr. Orlowski: When we close. Mr. Edwards? Mr. Edwards: Just that to say that Tom Doherty, from Walsh Park Affordable Housing project, that he is over tonight if the Board members want to talk to him after the meeting. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Ms. Scopaz? Ms. Scopaz: No. Mr. Orlowski: Being no further questions, I will entertain the motion. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? vote of the Board; Ayes: Orlowski, Mulle~tham. Ward, Edwar~- Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. RECEIVED AND FILED BY THE SOUTHOLDTOWN CLERK The Meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m. BENNETT OR'LO,Ski, JR. C~.~.~P~AN / DATE (~-/~-,~E' HOUR Tow'n Clerk, Town of SourS'old Respectfully submitted, /3ill M. T~orp, ~eczet ry ~outhold Town Planning Board