HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-12/18/1989Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York
11971
SCOTI' L. HARRIS
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Telephone (516) 765-1800
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
MINUTES
DECEMBER 18, 1989
Present were: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chaizman
Member G. Richie Latham
Member Richard Ward
Member Kenneth Edwards
Member Mark McDonald
Town Planner Valerie Scopaz
Planner Melissa Spiro
Jane Rousseau, Temporary Secretary
Mr. Orlowski: 7:30 p.m. - Martha Husinq - Public hearing on
the final maps dated June 9, 1989. This lot line change is on
54 acres located at Mattituck. SCTM $1000-122-7-8.2
126-1-15.2 ,
Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Long Island
Traveler Watchman and the Suffolk Times. Everything is in order
for a hearing. I'll ask if there are any objections to this lot
line change? Hearing none, are there any endorsements of this
lot line change? Hearing none, is there anyone out there
neither pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this
change that may be of interest to the board? Hearing none any
questions from the board? '
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: Hearing none, I'll declare this hearing closed.
Mr. Latham: I vote we s~gn the map.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. McDonald: I would like to offer this resolution.
WHEREAS , Martha'Husing, is the owner of the property
known as Martha Husing located on Peconic Bay Blvd. at
Mattituck; and
PLANNING BOARD 2 DECEMBER 18, 1989
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this lot
line change was submitted on June 20, 1989; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617
Title 6NYCRR declared itself Lead Agency and issued a Negative
Declaration on November 20, 1989; and
WHEREAS, a final p~hlic hearing was held on said lot line
change application at the Town Hall, Southold N.Y. on December
18, 1989 at 7:30 p.m.; and '
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision
Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; and be it therefore,
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve and
authorize the Chairman to endorse the final survey dated October
26, 1989.
Please note that: Mr. Thomas Hickey, agent, will file
the following deeds before the end of the year:
1. The new deed for the south westerly part of the
Suffolk County Tax Map (SCTM) 91000-122-7-8.3
shall be deeded out to the current owner of
SCTM $1000-126-1-15.2 with the following
covenants and restrictions:
The south westerly part of SCTM $1000-22-7-8.3
shall not be improved by a single family residence,
and further shall be considered merged with
SCTM 91000-126-2-i5.2.
A draft deed with this restriction on the south westerly
lot must be submitted for the Planning Board's review before
filing.
Mr. Ward: SecOnd.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham
Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (Chairman signed maps).
Mr. Orlowski: 7:35 p.m. - Henry Appel - Public hearing on
the final maps dated ~arch 24, 1988. This major subdivision is
on 15.3573 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM $1000-114-12-14.
Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Suffolk Times
and the Long Island Traveler Watchman. Everything is in order
for a public hearing. I'll ask if there are any objections to
this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any endorsements of
this subdivision?
PLANNING BOARD 3 DECEMBER 18, 1989
Robert F. Kozakiewicz with the law firm of Peter Danowski
Jr. Here on behalf of the applicant with our endorsement.
~ir. Orlowski: Are there any other endorsements of this
subdivision. Hearing none is there anyone out there neither
pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this
subdivision that may be of interest to the board? Hearing none,
are there any questions from the board?
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: At this time we will have to leave the hearing
open because as requested previously the Planning Board awaits
the Health Department approval, an updated bond estimate and the
draft document for the homeowners association so we will leave
this hearing open.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: ~otion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:40 p.m. - August Acres - Public Hearing on
the final maps. This major subdivision is on 43.062 acres
located at Arshamomaque. SCTM $1000-53-4-44.2. We have proof
of publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchman and the
Suffolk Times. At this time everything is in order.
Mr. Orlowski: I'll ask if there are any objections to this
subdivision?
Paul Clancey: I live at 644 Bayshore Road in Greenport. I
am the president of the Peconic Bay Estates Property OWner,s
Association and I have never done this before so bear with me.
We are concerned ~bout the wetlands with this subdivision and
just to go through some history, back in September of 1975 the
Suffolk ~oun~yDepartment of Planning approved the project
subject uo five conditionsl One which was that the storm
drainage system shall be redesigned to prevent direct discharge
of storm water into any pond or any other body of water. Now
the Town dismissed this, the contention that all ponds on the
property were man made. I don't see where the county addressed
ponds, they went well beyond ponds. March of 1988 the town did
a site inspection following a two inch rainfall on, March 26th
of 1988 and part of that report said recharge basins at Kerwin
Blvd. and Bayshore Road were discharging across the road into
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Mr. Orlowski: 7:35 p.m. Henry ADpei - Public hearing on
the final maps dated March 24, 1988. This major subdivision is
on 15.3573 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM ~1000-114-12-14.
Mr. Orlowski:
and the Long Island Traveler Watchman. Everything is ir
for a public hearing. I'll ask if there are any ob~eet~
this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any endorseme
this subdivision?
We have proof of publication in the Suff¢~tk Times
. order
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nts of
Robert F. Kozakiewicz with the law firm of Peter Danowsk
Jr. Here on behalf of the applicant with our endorsemen
Mr. Orlowski: Are there any other endorsements of this
subdivision. Hearing none is there anyone out there n~
pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this
subdivision that may be of interest to the board? Hearin
are there any questions from the board?
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: At this time we will have to leave the he
open because as requested previously the Planning Board
the Health Department approval, an updated bond estimate
draft document for the homeowners association so we will
this hearing open.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards
Mr. McDonald.
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Mr. 0rlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:40 p.m. - August Acres - Public Hearing on
the final maps. This major subdiVision is On 43.062 acr~s
l~cate~ at ArShamomaque. SCTM ~1000-53-4-44.2. We have proof
os publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchman and the
Suffolk Times. At this time everything is in order.
Mr. Orlowski: I'll ask if there are any objections to this
subdivision?
Paul Clancey: I live at 644 Bayshore Road in Greenport. I
am the president of the Peconic Bay Estates Property Owner's
Association and I have never done this before so bear with me.
We are concerned about the wetlands with this subdivision and
PLANNING BOARD 5 DECEMBER 18, 1990
just to go through some history, back in September of 1975 the
Suffolk County Department of Planning approved the project
subject to five conditions. One which was that the storm
drainage system shall be redesigned to prevent direct discharge
of storm water into any pond or any other body of water. Now
the Town dismissed this, the contention that all ponds on the
property were man made. I don't see where the county addressed
ponds, they went well beyond ponds. March of 1988 the town did
a site inspection following a two inch rainfall on March 26th
of 1988 and part of that report said recharge basins at Kerwin
Blvd. and Bayshore Road were discharging across the road into
wetlands. In August of 1988 the Town Planning Board gave a
positive declaration of Environmental Impact based upon the
State Environmental Quality Review Act which again, among other
things highlighted direct drainage into tidal wetlands. In June
of 1989 the town rescinded the positive declaration because the
project received preliminary approval prior to the time the
State Law was into effect. I would just again like to say we
have a concern that there is direct drainage into wetlands and
we just don't think that that should be allowed to proceed. We
have no objectionsto the development of the property but
something has to be done with the wetlands.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other objections to this subdivision?
Hearing none, any endorsements of this subdivision?
Henry Raynor: I am representing August Acres. I believe all
the final maps have be~n amended pursuant to the beard'.s request
and all consents that the planning board has requested has been
submitted. We also believe this file is in complete compliance
with section A106 in the subdivision regulations. A question
was raised With regard to wetlands and certainly was something
that was addressed by the Southold Town Board of Trustees. In
going back, this is probably the subdivision that has run as
long as Gone with the Wind. It has gone around. If we were to
go back int° the files a little further, we would find that the
storm water drainage discussed that was constructed was bOth
done at the request of the Town of Southold. This was done to
take care and al~leviate some of the problems that are on and
have previously existed on Kerwin Blvd.. I would request that
the board find this file in order and request approval on behalf
of the applicant.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements? Hearing none, is there
anyone out there who is neither pro nor con but may have
information pertaining to this Subdivision that may be of
interest to the board? Hearing none, any questions from the
board?
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: No further questions, I'll make a motion to close
the hearing.
PLANNING BOARD 6 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. McDonald: I make a motion to close this hearing.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald, Fir. Ward
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:45 p.m. Scott Kaufman - Public hearing on
the final maps dated July 31,1989. This minor subdivision is
on 6.889 acres located at Cutchogue.
SCTM $1000-97-3-20
Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Suffolk Times
and the Long Island Traveler Watchman. At this time everything
is in order for a final hearing. I'll ask if there are any
objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any
endorsements of the subdivision?
Mr. Henry Ra!rnor: Mr. Chairman again on behalf of the
applicant. These final maps have been amended pursuant to the
Planning Board's request specifically in regard to the scenic
easements as well as the widths of the driveways entering the
lots. The declaration of covenants and restrictions by the
Suffolk County Department of Health Services has been approved
and ~il~d.w~h the County Clerk. The Declaration of Covenants
and ~esurlctlons requested by this board was submitted On the
12th of this month for your board to review and I believe the
application will comply with the subdivision regulations you
have requested. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Hearing none, is there anyone out there neither pro nor con but
may have information pertaining to this subdivision that would
be of interest to the board? Hearing none, any questions from
the board?
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: Hearing no further questions, I'll entertain a
motion to close the hearing.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
PLANNING BOARD 7 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Ward. '
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:50 p.m. Charles Simmons - Public hearing on
the final maps. This'major subdivision ~s on 57.7 acres
located at Cutchogue. SCTM ~1000-i12-1-18. We have proof of
publication in both local papers and at this time everything is
in order for a final hearing. I'll ask if there are any
objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any
endorsements to this subdivision?
Mr. Raynor: I am representing Mr. Simmons. Again, your final
maps before you have been amended with regard to several letters
of correspondence throughout the year. We have included the
road profiles as well as leaching basins that were requested by
Sidney Bownes. The new mylars should have been received in
your office from the office of Roderick Van Tuyl which was
requested. I think everything is in order and I would request
approval of this subdivision. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Just a question while you are there. The
covenants and restrictions we would like to see no further
subdivision in perpetuity on lots one and two.
Mr. Raynor: Would you send us some correspondence in regard to
that request?
Mr. Orlowski: Yes, we will do that.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Hearing none, is there anyone out there neithez pro nor con but
may have some information pertaining to this subdivision that
may be of interest to the board? Hearing none, any questions
from the board?
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: No further questions, I'll entertain a motion to
close the hearing.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions of the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr, Orlowski
Mr. MCDonald. '
PLANNING BOARD $ DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: DBM Affordable Housinq: This public hearing
has been kept open from November 20, I989. This major
subdivision is on 37.762 acres located at Southold.
SCTM 91000-55-6-15.1.
Mr. Orlowski: We are still missing the water contracts, the
Suffolk County Planning Commission comments and also the board
has some other comments on this matter.
Mr. Edwards: I would like to entertain a motion to request the
following: A conservation easement will be ptaced~on the rear
portion of Lots 50 through 55 (Section Three) and 13 through 16
(Section Two) in order to remove the necessity for regrading and
placement of structures in close proximity to the adjoining
wetland area. Lots 41 through 44 (Section TP~ee) which are
adjacent to the drainage area, shall be set aside for park and
playground purposes. Lots 5, 6 and 7 (Section Two) shall be
redrawn so as to create three standard lots. At present, Lot 6
is a flag lot surrounded by five backyards.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Moore: I have to tell you I find this motion in this
application incredible. We are down to final plat approval
subject to Planning Commission, a water contract, which just for
your information our client has signed it and made a offer of
the money and Mr. ~ubbard is in the hospital and we are
waiting for the Village to approve and sign the contract on
their end. To make these kinds of changes in the plat at this
point on affordable housing subdivision boggles my imagination
and to have it dropped on us tonight like this with no prior
discussion from you is incredible.
Mr. Orlowski: Well, it could be incredible but that is what
public hearings are for and this was part of the comments that
were made. The planning Board has always felt strongly about
open space in this affordable housing subdivision.
Mr. Moore: Well, this is the first that this has been made
known to this applicant. No one has asked for open space and ne
one has asked that the lots be redrawn at this point.
Mr. Orlowski: Then why did you go before the housing committee
to tell them to tell the Planning Board not to ask for open
space, park and playground.
Mr. Moore: I am not familiar with that request, I did not go
before that board.
PLANNING BOARD 9 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Well, O.K.. I have a request to keep the hearing
open asking for that information.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Too Bee Realty - Public hearing kept open from
November 20, i989. This minor subdivision is on 7.956 acres
located at Southold. SCTM ~1000-50-6-5. I would like to make a
motion to keep this hearing open. We have requested revised
maps showing wetlands and also have a letter from the Trustees
saying they inspected it and there was evidence of wetlands
there so I would like to ask the applicant to give those to us.
Mr. Edwards: I move we keep the hearing open.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded.
motion? Ail those in favor?
Any questions on the
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Kapell: For the applicant.
would like to be heard tonight.
attorney for Too Bee Reality.
We have a couple of people that
First there is Eric Bressler,
Mr. Bressler: We are here tonight and we came here with the
hope that the hearing would be closed and the relief side of
this application would be granted. This board is faced with a
rather unusual situation, not withstanding Mr. Moore's comments
a few moments ago, I think the sitUation before the board is
even more unusual than the one he just described. If the board
will recall that this application involves a relatively simple
four acre subdivision for which the board issued a Negative
Declaration in May of 1988. The application preceded from May
of 1988 relatively smoothly for an application of this type and
the board had before it a map suitable we believe, for final
endorsement by the Planning Board. Then, something happened
which led the board to the conclusion that it reached just
PLANNING BOARD 10 DECEMBER 18, 1990
m~ments ago. Someone without the knowledge and consent of my
c±ient entered upon their property and dug a trench leading ~rom
the pond on the adjoining property such that water drained on
the subject premises. I am sure that the board is familiar with
the facts giving rise to this situation, it's been in the
newspapers and we all know what happened. Someone came on and
dug up the property and caused water to drain. The board has
before it, I believe, the letter from Dave Kapell with
enclosures from the New York State Department of Environmental
Conservation and my Client's answer. The DEC is extremely
concerned about this illegal activity that has taken place on my
Clie~t'~ property and with respect there too and h~s requested
permission to come in to rebuild and repair the damage which was
caused to this property and which in turn caused the draining on
to the subject property. We have granted that permission and
have asked the DEC indeed take more active measures to repairing
the property and bringing the pond back to its normal
situation. Now, what does all this mean? It means that the
waver was let loose by some people who entered upon their
property illegally has led to this situation which the board is
now visiting on my clients. In May of 1988, there were no
adverse environmental impacts to be gained and someoae enters
~nto the property, digs up the dike, causes water to flood down
here and no~ all of a sudden the Trustees revisit the property
and said that the fragmites have grown up or some other
indicator species and now we have wetlands. This does not make
any sen~,to_me gentlemen. This is crazy. My clients are not
responslD±e Ior this, as little as a year ago. wetlahds didn't
exist there. When the DEC adverbially co~es in and repairs this
dike, there are going to be no more deposits of water on the
property. This is not a wetlands situation and there is no
reason to visit a penalty on my clients, they have been waiting
quite patiently for a subdivision. This smacks a boot
strapping. NOw there are actions pending in theSupreme Court
for trespass and other damages against those alleged who have
created.%his situation hut I would suggest to theboard that to
reward this type of behavior and to allow bootstrapping into the
situation where a subdivision where you people have approved can
be held up and turned into a wetlands problem and an
environmental problem because of the activities of other people
is the boot strap people in the very situationwhere they wanted
to be and I don't think that this board should put up with that
kind of activity. It is wrong, it was illegal and I don~t think
this board should be a party to it. I think the DEC has made
their position very clear. I would urge the board to withdraw
the prior motion and to grant approval for this application as
requested. Thank you.
Fir. Kapell: Milton Bagley was also one of the principals of
Too Bee and would like to say something.
Mr. Bagley: Good evening, thank you for hearing what I have
to say. I have owned a home in the Town of Southold for eight
years, done everything right and nothing wrong. I was driving
PLANNING BOARD 1I DECEMBER 18, 1990
with my wife three and one half years ago on Lighthouse Lane and
she saw a sign saying property for sale and I called up the man,
met him out there an~ bought the property. It was eight acres,
at the time the zoning was I believe as it is now, two acres to
the building plot. There were eight flat continuous acres, the
man had Health Department approval which he did and there was
not a problem in sight. That was three years ago this Friday.
For almost three years we have been trying to split the eight
acres into four plats. There was never a reason to.my
knowledge, I am not an attorney or a professional land person,
there was never a reason not to get the four plats. ~tr.
Bitses, who I have never met and if he were in the room now I
wouldn't recognize him and I have never spoken with him. I
understand that at the last meeting, which I did not attend,
creater furor here over the fact that water had egressed from
the pond onto the Too Bee property. I received a telephone call
~ believe in August from another gentlemen I haven't met who is
in the employ of the Town or the State, a Bay Constable named
Kent McCarthy who said that he had found and captured a
perpetrator in themiddle of the night breaking the dam and that
they had sworn testimony that this m~n was directed and hired by
a man named Bitses. I am neither jUdge nor jury on the
sit~at~o~.but~ understand the criminal proceedings are underway
agalns= the allege~ perpetrator and that the Bay Constables have
assured me that they had the sworn testimony. Now I am reminded
of an Old and ridiculOUs joke about the person who kills his
parents and he throws himself on the mercy of the court because
he is an orphan. It seem incredible to me that.~omebody should
be allegedly invotvedlin digging a trench on somebody else's
property to serve his own purpose, and you are ailf~miliar with
the issue, and then the water that escapes as a result of that
crimiRal act Should not be used as a reason to deny why
everyone, I believe including yourselves gentlemen, agreed was
~ppropriate and reasonable. I remember standing infront of
~his ~°ard, it must have been a year ago, when you said
everything is in orderand would you agree to haVing a
cul-de-sac instead of curb cuts and we said yes and you said
O.K. draw up the map and submit it and there should be no
problem. That was a~year ago. Now, this dam is broken and the
Control is up in arms about the fact that the pond has dropped
two feet as we are. At some point enough really has to be
enough and justice has to be dOne and I think to deny us what
seems to be the unanimous opinion of the board and every party
to it was a reason~ble request because water came through a
break that was not caused by us and is being repaired seems just
out of the can of reason. Thank you.
Mr. Kapell: If I may Gentlemen, I have two photographs that I
would like to introduce for the public record and I would like
to ask Mr. Bagley whether they are fair and accurate
representations of the trench that was dug through the dike.
PLANNING BOARD 12 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Bagley: I cannot and I will tell you why because I have
never in my life seen the dam. I was here a year ago and I
believe Mr. Bitses either accused me of raising the level of
the water or lowering the level of the water and I told him at
that time I have never set foot on the property so I can't
attest to it.
Mr. Kapell: In that case gentlemen I will address the question
to Sanford Hanauer who has personal knowledge of the
property.
Mro Hanauer: I personally walked the property and I took
these pictures. They were taken last week and I will leave them
for the board to look at.
Mr. Kapell: I am marking the photographs with exhibit A and B
and todays date.
Mr, Orlowski: Mr. McDonald, you were out there, do you have any
information you can supply the board?
Mr. McDonald: I would like to point out that the Trustees on
examination indicated that they felt in general that the
wetlands that were present on the property could not have been
established in a matter of months or a year and that area had
been wet for some considerable period of time and that is why
the action that they made was taken.
Mr. Kapell: In light of that I must say that I am somewhat
puzzled by the Negative Declaration that took place only
slightly more than a year ago. If the property was indeed
reviewed by everyone involved then I feel that the board adhere
to that decision.
Mr. Ward: Is this to such an area that if it is excluded it's
~oing to eliminate a lot?
Mr. Kapelt: We don't believe so.
Mr. Ward: It has got to be fairly insignificant, isn't it?
Why don't we do what has to be done and get rid of it. It seems
to me that it is a small enough area that if you flagged it,
show your setback and get on with the work that has got to be
done. What are we dealing with?
Mr. Hanauer: That Berm is about four and a half to five feet
high and when it was dug I presented photographs in June of 1988
before this board when someone had tampered with the pond then
and in a year and a half things can grow. That pond has been
trickling now all that time. Now it has really been breached.
Mr. McDonald: It has been trickling out for a long time?
PLANNING BOARD 13 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Hanauer: I presented to the board a year and a half ago
when the dike was first cut, I left photographs with the board
here and it was published in the newspaper too about the
vanishing pond and prior to that we received a Negative
Declaration. In a year and a half, and I am not a biologist but
things can grow. It's been wet for a year and a half but now it
is flooded.
Mr. Orlowski: When will the DEC fill this in? They have a
letter here but it doesn't say when it is going to be done.
Mr. Hanauer: I've been trying to reach them.
Mr. Orlowski: The trustees have put us on a spot by saying
there is fresh water wetlands there.
Mr. Hanauer: I personally feel that anyone who goes out there
can definitely see that that area was dry for years and years.
Mr. Bressler: In that case if flagging and setbacks are the
only issue then I would urge the board to adopt a motion to
approve this subdivision s,~hject to showing the setbacks. I
really can't see any Objection to that application because if
indeed it is insignificant and if indeed we can flag it and show
you the setbacks please let us continue with this.
Mr. Ward: You are going to have to flag it and show it on the
map and then we can do something with it.
Mr. Bressler: We will keep the public hearing open and be back
here again. Is that the last issue?
Mr. Orlowski: It is in writing to us and we are on the spot, I
don't know what we can do.
Mr. McDonald: As long as it is an open hearing and people make
comments we will have to respond.
Mr. Bressler: Is this the final issue from the board? Is there
anything else that is bothering anyone on the board? Tell us
now.
Mr. McDonald: I don't think the board has had a problem with
this if there hadn't been co~m~ents at the last meeting Which is
public comments.
Mr. Bressler: Nothing else as far as you are concerned?
Mr. Hanauer: Could I ask a question sir? Is it not
meaningful that the man who is really the antagonist in this
situation is also involved with the authorities as the director
of having paid the perpetrator.
PLANNING BOARD 14 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: I feel real bad about it and bad for you and
think that was wrong but it seems to have created fresh water
wetlands and the Trustees have that in writing to this board.
If you can delete it and take it out and flag it this board has
no problem approving it.
Mr. Hanauer: Is the next meeting a month from now and if we
get the map to you can we have a done deal next month.
Mr. Orlowski: There was the standard C & R with no f~rther
subdivision and also lot one and two must have access from the
right-of-way not from Light House Road.
Mr. Kapell:
Mr. Orlowski:
Ms. Scopaz:
No further subdivision without board approval.
No further subdivision in perpetuity.
If I could address Mr. Bagley's question about
the merits of the case. Just so you are aware of it, that
lawsuit was handled by the Town Attorney on behalf of the
Trustees. The Planning Board was never involved in the issues of
that lawsuit. They were unable to proceed with the application
so in answer to your question, you were saying well isn't the
fact that the (inaudible) was involved. Those questions were
never before the board. Just so you are aware of that in other
words the issue to the lawsuit were never before the board and
they weren't part of the application. Just to answer the
question.
Mr. Bressler: Excuse me, that is not quite so. It is my
understanding that the very issues that were before the Trustees
were those that were raised at the last meeting here. That is,
the wetlands and destruction on my client's property so I think
there is an unavoidable link.
Mr. Hanauer: If the law requires that you have to maintain a
68 degree temperature in this room or pay a fine and I smash the
windows and the cold air comes in, would you say that the Town
is responsible or I'm responsible.
Ms. Scopaz: I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that the
particulars of the lawsuit, the board was not party to,
(inaudible). O.K. that is all I'm saying.
Mr. Orlowski: Alan Cardinale - James Creek - board to review
the bond estimate dated December 11, 1989. Public hearing kept
open from November 20, 1989. This minor subdivision is on
15.9012 located at Mattituck.
SCT~ ~I000-122-3-1.1.
Mr. Edwards: I would like to adopt the engineer's report dated
December 11, 1989.
PLANNING BOARD 15 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham,
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Also, to adopt the revised bond estimate in
amount of $78,870.00 and to recommend to the Town Board to do
the same.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mro Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Ortowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: As of yet we have no comment back from Suffolk
County Planning Commission so we will still have to keep this
hearing open.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: M~. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Latham.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Cardinale: My one request (inaudible).
Mr. Orlowski: Did you make an application to the Trustees?
Mr. Cardinale: We made one ~hout two and one- half months ago.
Mr. Orlowski: What is that for?
Mr. Cardinale: The Health Department requested that we have a
letter of waiver from the DEC as well as the ToWn.
Mr. Orlowski: Is that just for the setbacks?
PLANNING BOARD 16
Mr. Cardinale: Yes.
Mr. Orlowski: Is that the building
the septic setbacks?
Mr. Cardinale: I imagine that it's
Mr. Orlowski: Yes, the septic shou]
Health. The Trustees aren't giving
Mr. Cardinale: Basically it was wet
setbacks. They wanted 100 feet and
75 feet although there was no jurisd
indicated they still wanted somethin
though they said it might not be in
Mr. Orlowski: Is there something el
~ECEMBER 18, 1990
envelope setback or is that
both.
[ be just the Board of
'ou that.
.ands. They wanted wetland
think the town was up to
iction as far as the plans
~ from the town. Even
the jurisdiction.
se you wanted to build
there? Maybe a dock or a jetty or sDmething?
Mr. Cardinate: No, we're just tryin to comply with the Health
Department.
Mr. Orlowski: The Health Department told you to go to the
Trustees?
Mr. Cardinale: No, they just said ~ley wanted something from
the Town of Southold showing all se~ )acks.
Mr. Orlowski: Well, I can understa] that and the rest of it
the easiest thing for us to keep the hearing open until we get
this report.
Mr. Cardinale: Do you know when you will expect it in?
Mr. Orlowski: Well now it will probably be the first or second
week in Janu.ary. -
Mr. Cardinale: Thank you very much.
oMnr't~erlm°oW~ol~? IAlh~V~hoasemO~O~avmoard~ and seconded. Any questions
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orl wski, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: North Road Associates
open from February 6, 1989. This min
acres located at Orient.
SCTM ~1000-18-4-1.
- Public hearing kept
or subdivision is on 16.886
PLANNING BOARD 17 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: I'll entertain a motion to keep this hearing open
we still need a report from Suffolk County Planning Commission.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
~r. Orlowski: Board to set Thursday, January 18, 1990 at 7:30
p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the time
and place for the next regular Planning Board Meeting.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Fir. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski:
Opposed? So ordered.
SUBDIVISIONS:
Final:
Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Thursday, January 18, 1990 at
7:30 p.m. for a public hearing on the final maps dated February
16, 1989. This minor subdivision is on 97,035.sq. ft. located
at Cutchogue. SCTM 91000-103-3-5.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward,
Mr. McDonald.
PLANNING BOA/{D 18 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
~r. Orlowski: Rita Brown - Board to set Thursday, January
18,1990 at 7:35 p.m. for a public hearing on the final maps
dated April 17, 1989. This minor subdivision is on 12.506 acres
located at Mattituck. SCTM 91000-94-3-1.3.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Latham. '
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I will also request to the applicant that there
should be no further subdivision of any lot in perpetuity.
Access to lot number one is to be from the proposed road, there
is to be no access to this lot from Oregon Road.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Adams Associates- Board to review the bond
estimate which was adopted on September 11~ 1989. Board to set
Thursday, January 18, 1990 at 7:45 p.m. for a p~hlic hearing on
the final maps dated October 12, 1989. This minor subdivision
is on 7.6797 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM ~1000-113-12-10.
Mr. Orlowski: I'll entertain a motion to reduce the bond
estimate from $48,345.00 to $38,345.00, and to recommend same to
the Town Board. The board has recommended the reduced bond, as
a firewell was included in the original bond, but theMat~ituck
Fire District has recoJmuended that a firewell is not necessary
as the proposed firewell for the adjacent shopping plaza at Cox
Neck Land and Route 48 will be sufficient for the Subdivision.
PLANNING BOARD 19 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald. '
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Also, there shall be no further subdivision of
any of the lots in perpetuity. We'll put that in writing. We
will set the final hearing for 7:45 p.m. Thursday, January 18,
1990. '
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski', Mr. Latham,
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Henry Arbeen¥- Board to set Thursday,
January 18, 1990 at 7:50 p.m. fOr a public hearing on the final
maps dated July 28, 1989. This major subdivision is on 7.592
acres located at Southold. SCTM $1000-59-7-3i.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald
Mr. Edwards. '
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: HighDoint Section III - Board to make a
determination onthe final maps. This minor subdivision is on
2.9189 acres located at East Marion.
SCTM ~1000-31-3-11.25.
PLANNING BOARD 20 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Ward: WHEREAS, Herbert Mandel is the owner of the
property known as Highpoint at East Marion, Section III located
on Route 25 at East Marion; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this
subdivision was submitted September 8, 1989; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617
Title 6NYCRR declared itself Lead Agency and issued a Negative
Declaration on October 16, 1989; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was held on said
subdivision application at the Town Hall, Southold, N.Y. on
November 20, 1989 at 7:55 p.m.; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision
Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; and be it therefore,
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
conditional approval, and authorize the Chairman to endorse the
final surveys subject to fUlfillment of the following
conditions. All conditions must be met within six (6) months of
the date of this resolution.
1. Submission of a Draft Declaration of Covenants and
Restrictions stating that:
Access to Lot Number 50 shall be from
the proposed road~ there shall be no
access to this lot from Main Road.
The draft Declaration of Covenants and
Restrictions will be reviewed by the
Planning Board and the Town Attorney.
Satisfactory Covenants and Restrictions
mu~st be filed witk the office of the
County Clerk prior to endorsement of
the subdivision by the Chairman.
Revised Road and Drainage plans as per the
October 12, 1989 Engineer's report. This report
requests that the plan be revised to show
the required pavement section for the proposed
road.
S~bmission of final maps (5 paper prints and 2
mylars). Ail maps must contain:
A. The Health Department's stamp of approval.
B. The location of the firewell.
C. The street name
D. A note that there is to be no access
on Main Road for Lot Number 50.
E. A note stating that Covenants and
Restrictions have been filed, and the
Liber and Page number.
Receipt of a Letter of Credit or its equivalent in the
amount of $55,350.00, and adoption of same by the Town
Board.
PLANNING BOARD 21 DECEMBER 18, 1990
5. Receipt of the inspection fee in the amount of
$3,321.00.
6. Fulfillment of Department of Transportation
requirements?
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Mandel: Mr. Chairman, may I ask a question. In the bond
it calls for a street light and we determined there is a street
light at the point where it was requested. We would like that
omitted from the bond. In addition, the firewell is on a
private street as shown on the map adjacent to a fire house and
we see no purpose or object of having to pay, according to the
bond $10,000 for the firewell at this point. As a matter of
fact, the only firewell in East Marion at this time is one that
I put in and that was a forty-nine acre lot development. This
is a proposed three lots on which there has been a house
occupied since around 1930 something and a couple of barns. If
the firehouse wants or needs a firewell at this point, they
should have thought of it when they built the firehouse. There
is no point in our having to spend that kind of. money_in, this
circumstance. We would like that to be eliminated from the
bond. I don't know that the Planning Board has the jurisdiction
over that, I think it is a matter of the fire department
requesting it. I would like it to go back to the Town Board as
I believe it has to go back anyway because of the street light.
So whatever you decide on that I will try to go along with it.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K., you are right on the firewells, that is
up to the district and that is their recommendation to us. We
don't supersede it or override it. In regards to street lights,
there is a light there. I don't know how much it is on the bond
but I think it's about $1,000.
F~. Ward: I will make a motion to amend the resolution to
reduce the bond by $1,000.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on that
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
PLANNING BOARD 22 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Wolf Pit Associates - Board to make a
determination on the final maps dated September 28, 1989. This
major subdivision is on 65.3810 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM ~1000-107-4-2.1.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
motion.
WHEREAS, David Saland, is the owner of the property known
as Wolf Pit Associates located on Mill Lane at Mattituck; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for approval of this
subdivision was submitted on August 20, 1987; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617
Title 6NYCRR declared itself Lead Agency and issued a Negative
Declaration on January 7, 1988; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was held on said
subdivision application at the Town Hall, Southold,N.Y. on
October 16, 1989 at 7:55 p.m. and closed on November 20, 1989;
and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision
Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; and be it therefore,
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board approve and
authorize the Chairman to endorse the final survey dated August
22, 1989, subject to fulfillment of the following conditions
within six (6) months of the date of this resolution:
i. Receipt of a performance bond or let~er~of
credit for the amount of $159,621.00.
2. Filing of Covenants and Restrictions for the
Drainage, Scenic and Natural Vegetation
Retention Easement Area, and filing of the
Covenants and Restrictions required by the
Suffolk County Planning Co~ission.
3. The noting on the final maps of the Liber and Page
numbers of all the required Covenants and
Restrictions, including the Health Department's
Covenants and restrictions.
4. The dedication of the land outside the 35 degree
turning radius at the intersection of Mill Road
and Mill Lane to the Town of Southold, (Same to be
shown on map.
5. Payment of th~ Park and Playground fee of
$32,500.00.
6. Payment of the Inspection fee of $9,577.26.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mro Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Ward.
PLANNING BOARD 23 DECEMBER 18, I990
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Herbert Mandel Board to make a determination
on the final maps. This set off is on 11.912 acres located at
East Marion. SCTM 91000-31-3810 acres located at Mattituck.
SCTM $1000-107-4-2.1.
Mr. Ward: WHEREAS Herbert Mandel, is the owner of the
property known as Herbert Mandel set-off located on the Main
Road at East Marion.
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this
set-off was submitted on December 24, 1988; and
WHEREAS, the Seuthold Town Planning Board pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617
Title 6~fCRR declared itself Lead Agency and issued a Negative
Declaration on May 18, 1989; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was held on said
subdivision application at Town Hall, Southold, N.Y. on November
20, 1989 at 8:15 p.m.; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the subdivision
Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; and be it therefore,
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
conditional final approval, and authorize the Chairman to
endorse the final surveys dated September 18, 1989 subject to
fulfillment of the following conditions. All conditions must be
met within six (6) months of the date of this resolution.
1. The Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions must be
filed with the office of the County Clerk prior to
endorsement of the subdivision by the Chairman.
2. The final maps (5 paper prints and 2 mylars) must
contain a note stating that Covenants and Restrictions
have been filed, and the Liber and Page number.
Mr. Latham:
Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Doris Price Moeller Foster - Board to start the
coordination process to determine lead agency and environmental
significance. Board to review the maps dated November 1, 1989.
This minor subdivision is on 8.5 acres located at Cutchogue.
PLANNING BOARD 24 DECEMBER 18, 1990
SCTM %1000-103-9-13.
Mr. Orlowski: I'll entertain a motion to grant sketch approval.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards,
Fir. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Latham: I have a note on that one Mr. Chairman. Please
note that the Planning Board will be requiring the following
Covenants and Restrictions in addition to restrictions that may
be required by the Suffolk County Planning Commission:
1. There shall be no further subdivision in perpetuity;
2. All requirements of the special conditions of the
New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
must be met.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K. we'll send those over to the applicant.
Also, I have one more motion to start the coordination process.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Ortowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Marion Robins - Board to start the coordination
process to determine lead agency and envirou~uental
significance. Board to review the maps dated July 5, 1989.
This minor subdivision is on 6.039 acres located at East
Cutchogue. SCTM 1000-103-10-2.
Mr. Edwards: I move we start the coordination process.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
PLANNING BOARD 25 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I'll make a motion to gra~t sketch approval on
the maps dated July 5th, 1989 subject to the following:
i. The reservation of eight and one half f8 1/2)
feet of land for possible future road widening
along Little Neck Road.
2. The reservation of eight and one half (8 1/2) feet
of land for possible future road widening along
Strohson Road.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Fir. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham
Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: John Wickham - Board to start the coordination
process to determine lead agency and environm, ental significance.
I'll entertain a motion.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Ortowski: Board to review the maps of this minor
subdivision. This minor subdivision is on 10.550 acres located
at New Suffolk. SCTM ~1000-1t0-8-32.1.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order for sketch approval.
Mr. Edwards: Move for sketch approval.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Any questions or conm~ents on that?
PLANNING BOARD 26 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Ward: Yes, just that we request that the applicant create
more equal lots on the waterfront and the 175 foot minimum lot
area of lot number two be reduced to one seventy five which is
the minimum requirement for that district and that the
appropriate adjustments be made in lot lines to acc~L~L~odate the
acreage swaps.
Mr. Orlowski: I have a motion made and seconded for this. Any
questions on the motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Fir. Ward,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: James Bailey - Board to make a determination
under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. Board to set
Thursday, January 18, 1990 at 7:40 p.m. for a public hearing on
the final maps dated November 14, 1989. This lot line change is
located on Fishers Island. SCTM ~1000-12-1-6.10.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to do an uncoordinated
review this will give us lead agency and a negative declaration
for the lot line change.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Set a public hearing on January 18, 1990 at 7:40
p.m. on the final maps dated November 14, 1989 for this lot
line change on Fishers Island.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. EdWards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
PLANNING BOARD 27 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Barbara Sowinski- Board to make a
determination under the State Environmental Quality Review Act.
This minor subdivision is on 4.3075 acres located a Cutchogue.
SCTM ~1000-103-1-20.02.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order for a Negative
Declaration° What is the pleasure of the board?
Mr. Ward: So moved for a Negative Declaration. The reasons for
supporting this is an Enviror~ental assessment has been
submitted, reviewed and it was determined that no significant
adverse effects to the environment were likely to occur should
the project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been no correspondence received form the
Department of Health Services in the allotted time, it is
assumed that there are no comments or objections from that
agency.
Correspondence has been received from the New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation. The Department has no
objection to the Plarming Board assuming lead agency status for
this action. A tidal Wetlands Permit, #10-89-0395, was issued
on July 19, 1989 with the special condition that "future
development/construction on these lots will require additional
permission from this Department prior to commencement of such
work." The special condition was in addition to Supplementary
Special Conditions (A0 through (J).
Correspondence has been received from the Board of Town
Trustees, The Trustees recoi~ended that the building envelope
for Lot Number 2 be revised so that it is located at least
sixty-five (65) feet from the southern property line. The
Planning Board in their sketch approval re~eested this revision.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on that
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
REPORTS AND BONDS:
Mr. Orlowski: Orient Park Estates - Board to review the
engineer report and the bond es%imate dated December 12, 1989.
This minor subdivision is on 16.7073 acres located at Orient.
SCTM ~1000-19-1-15.
PLANNING BOARD 28 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. McDonald: I would like to make a motion to adopt the
Engineer's Report.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. McDonald: I would like to make a further motion to adopt
the revised bond estimate for the amount of $68,560.00 and to
recoLLm~end the same to the Town Board. The bond was revised to
add twenty-two street trees, one firewell and one street light.
Mr. Ward: Not the street light.
Mr. McDonald: O.K., the street light was removed. So I'll
amend to take it off.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowskir Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Reydon Court - Board to make a recommendation
tothe Town Board in regard to the Bond for this major
subdivision located at Southold. SCTM $1000-79-5-i6..3.
Mr. Orlowski: At this time everything is in order to recommend
release of this bond.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Orlowski: Motio~ made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So Ordered.
PLANNING BOARD 29 DECEMBER 18, 1990
SITE PLANS:
Mr. Orlowski: Blue Dolphin Motel - Board to make a
determination under the State Environmental Quality Review Act.
Board to review the final maps dated October 17, 1989. This
site plan is located at East Marion SCTM %1000-31-6-13-3.
Mr. Ward: I would like to make a motion for the Planning Board
to do an uncoordinated review, declare the Planning Board lead
agent, and as lead agent, under the State E~vironmental Quality
Review Act grant a negative declaration.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (Chairman signed maps)
Mr. Ward: WHEREAS, Athanasios Spinthouraskis, is the owner
of the property known as the Blue Dolphin Motel located on the
Main Road at East Marion; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site
plan was submitted November 8, 1989; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617
Title 6NYCRR declared itself Lead Agency and issued a Negative
Declaration on December 18, 1989; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Ordinance
have been met; and
be it therefore;
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve the
final maps dated October 19, 1989, subject to the following:
1. Landscape screening must be placed on the north
east side of the pool to place a visual barrier to
residences north of the pool prior to the issuance
of a Certificate of Occupancy.
Mr. Ward: I would also like to make a motion that the Chairman
be authorized to sign the site plans onto which the
aforementioned conditions have been attached.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham.
PLANNING BOARD 30 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Hamlet of Cutchogue - Board to review the
requirements for a Final Environmental Impact Statement.
This site plan is located at Cutchogue.
SCTM %1000-102-3-33.3.
Mr. Orlowski: For the record I would like to read this letter
that was sent to the applicant. The Planning Board requests
that you have your consultant prepare the Final Environmental
Impact Statement for the Hamlet. Please incorporate responses
to all the comments that were made with regard to the Draft
Environmental Impact Statement. These comments were sent to you
under separate cover on December 6, 1989.
When you submit the proposed Final Environmental Impact
Statement, it should be accompanied by a check for $500.00 to
cover the initial review of the document by our environmental
consultant. Enclosed is a copy of the estimate. (Note that
this fee will cover one review of the proposed FEIS. An
additional review fee will be charged if supplemental material
has to be reviewed.)
It is evident that your applications to the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services for water supply and sewage
disposal permits have not received approvals. There appear to
be objections to inconsistencies or inaccuracies within the
applications.
Also, this office does not have any evidence of an
application having been made to the Suffolk County Water
Authority for the provision of water service, as recommended by
the Health Department in their April 4, 1989 letter to your
consultant, Mr. Salerno of Greenman-Pedersen, Inc..
Clearly, there will have to be a resolution of these issues
with the Health Department and the Suffolk County Water
Authority before the Planning Board could accept an FEIS and
adopt a Findings Statement.
If there are any concerns or questions about how to proceed,
please do not hesitate to contact Vaterie Scopaz, Town Planner.
The letter has been sent to the applicant and I just read it for
the record.
Mr Orlowski: Cliffside/Tidemark- Board to review final
maps for this Site plan located at Greenport.
SCTM %1000-45-I-1.
PLANNING BOARD 31 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Ward: RESOLVED that the plan for Cliffside/Tidemark
Hotel which is composed of the following: a site plan (dated as
received by the Planning Board on October 13, 1989) and a
drainage plan (dated as received by the Planning Board on
November 30, 1989) and a floor plan ~dated as received by the
Planning Board on December 7, 1989), be approved. The following
conditions are included in this approval:
1. None of the individual hotel units may exceed
the square footage noted on the attached floor
plans (Dated as Received by the Planning Board
on December 7, 1989) of this approved site plan.
2. None of the individual hotel units shall have
"cooking facilities", as stated in Section 100-13
of the Town Code, Definition for Transient Hotel
3. The stairs down the face of the bluff are NOT
included in this approval.
A separate amended application for approval for
the stairs will have to be made once the
appropriate permit is obtained form the
Bureau of Marine Habitat Protection of the
New York State Department of Environmental
Protection.
4. This site plan will be subject to final review
of drainage by the Town Engineer including any
recommendations for additional leaching pools
or other positive drainage improvements.
Mr. Hage: For the applicant. I think one of your provisions
has made reference of this being a transient motel. I don't
think that is correct. This is a resort motel and there is a
big difference from it being a transient motel.
~r. 0rlowski: What is the difference?
Mr. Hage: One is the usage of some of the things you are
allowed to have in a resort motel that you can't have in a
transient motel. This as always been submitted as a resort
motel. I don't have the code in front of me but I can read you
the definitions and there are distinctions between the two. The
application went in right from the very beginning as a resort.
Ms. Scopaz: The transient motel definition. A building or
group of buildings whether detached or a connected unit,
containing individual quest units consisting of'a room arranged
r designed to be available or used for as sleeping and living
arters for transient on a daily rental basis pr~ided that one
such unit may connect directly with no more than one other such
unit and that no cookin~ facilities shall be available. Each
such unit shall have a door opening on the exterior of the
building or a common hallway leading to the exterior. A
transient motel or hotel may include such accessory as: an
office, restaurant, accessory personnel services, swi~mL~ng pool
and off street parking facilities. The transient motel or hotel
shall not be construed to include resort motel. Nor shall it be
PLANNING BOARD 32 DECEMBER 18, I990
deemed to include any dwelling unit except that of the owner or
the manager. The application before you has a dwelling unit for
the owner or the manager and that is the only unit on the site
plan that has cooking facilities. None of the others have
cooking facilities. The definition for a resort motel - A
building, or group of buildings, whether detached or in
connected units, containing individual quest unit consisting of
a room arranged or designed to be available for use as sleeping
quarters for transient on a daily rental basis or for
vacationers or other such persons on a weekly rental basis
provided that one such unit may connect directly with not more
than one other such unit. Each unit shall have a door opening
on the exterior of the building or a common hallway leading to
the exterior. A resort moteI may include such accessory uses
as: a beach cabana, private dock, dining room, restaurant, or
swimming pool, conference and meeting facilities or an accessory
convenience shop, office, or personnel service faoilities
provided that such facilities or shops is located within the
building without any external sign or display and off street
parking facilities° The term resort motel shall notbe
construed to conclude transient motel or mobile home park.
Mr. Hage: A resort motel is entitled to have more things than
a transient motel. One is mutually exclusive of the other as
far as the code states and I emphasize that the application has
been submitted as a resort motel and it is permitted, in this
district as a resort motel.
Ms. Scopaz: May I point out that the resort motel definition
does not make a specific position for a managers office and
dwelling unit. That is the primary difference between the two
definitions.
Mr. Hage: I think first of all we are the applicants, it is
our property, we make the application. If it is a permitted use
we have the right to make the application. We are making an
application for a resort motel. That is all I am asking be
changed on here.
Mr. Hage: Mr. Chairman, I think I presented before this board
several times with a question and reason with regard to 600 sq.
ft. in size and we had the intention of designing this so that
families could stay out here a week or two. This is something
we had discussed at prior meetings here before the board.
Mr. Orlowski: The zoning board has nothing in here about that.
Ms. Scopaz: They evidentially did not address the issue as to
whether this should be treated as a transient motel or a resort
motel even though the issue was presented tonight.
Mr. Orlowski: Just a question, are you putting kitchen
facilities in these units?
PLANNING BOARD 33 DECFiV~BER 18, 1990
Mr. Hage: As of right now, no, there is a provision with the
Board of Appeals with respect to that.
Mr. Orlowski: That limits it only to the masagers quarters.
Mr. Hage: Their decision states that it is their
understanding that there will be no kitchen facilities. My
point to you is we made a specific application which we are
entitled to and that is all we are asking for. I don't think
this board, with all due respect, can turn around and change
something from a resort motel which is what we want, to a
transient motel. You have a reference in there as to kitchen
facilities.
Mr. Ward: You're before the ZBA?
Mr. Hage: We received approval from the ZBA and they imposed
certain conditions.
Mr. Ward: Which is no cooking facilities.
Mr. Hage: They put a provision in there with the
understanding that there is no cooking facilities.
Mr. Orlowski: It says here subject to the following conditions,
and condition five that: it is the understanding of the board
that only the manager's unit will contain kitchen facilities.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I will amend my resolution to
eliminate item two which is regarding transient motel.
Mr. Orlowski: ~otion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski.
Abstain: Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Hage: Mr. Chai~,an, does your resolution include a
signature of the site plan.
Mr. Orlowski: yes.
Mr. Hage: Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Mooresland - Board to review the final maps.
Ms. Scopaz, before we make our motion, you have a few comments
you would like to make. Before I ask you that, I'll entertain
a motion to adopt the Suffolk County Planning Commission's
Report on November 1, 1989.
Fir. Ward: Second.
PLANNING BOARD 34 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards
Mr. Latham.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed. So ordered.
Ms. Scopaz: RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board
approve the bond estimate in the amount of $425,150.00 and the
inspection-fee of $25,509.00 and recommend to the Town Board to
adopt same subject to the addition of three items requested by
the Town Engineer in the November 2, 1989 report.
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant final
approval to Mooresland upon all items noted herein:
t. Receipt of a letter from the Village of Greenport
stating that all terms of the water contract dated
June 15, 1989 have been met.
2. Receipt of revised grading and drainage plans as per
items one, four and five of the November 2, 1989
report from the Town Engineer's and Consultant and
approval of same by the Town Engineer
3. Receipt of all required Covenants and Restrictions
required by the Suffolk County Planning Coa~ission and
the Planning Board and approval by the Town Attorney
as to correctness, legal form and content.
4. All approved Covenants and Restrictions are to be
recorded in the office of the County Clerk and a
notation made on the site and the subdivision plan
of the Liber and the Page numbers of the recorded
deeds.
5. Acceptance of bond estimate by the Town Board.
6. Submission of bond or letter of credit or equivalent
and acceptance of same by the Town Board.
7. Receipt of twelve revised site plans showing the
following changes:
A. The location of the landfill.
B. Direct walkways between each building and
between the units olf each building.
C. An additional walkway from the building
around the cul-de-sac to the recreation
area.
D. A dedication to the town of the land outside
two short radius curves, with a radius of
twenty feet or less; one at the southeast
intersection of Middle Road (C.R. 48) and
Moore's Lane and the other at the northeast
corner of Cedarfields Drive and Moore's Lane.
E. A notation that handicapped parking and access
to these units will be provided in accordance
with the New York State Law.
F. A notation that a Declaration of Covenants and
Restrictions have been filed in the Suffolk
County Clerk's Office which affects units in
PLANNING BOARD ~5 DECEMBER 18, i990
this subdivision.
8. Establishment of a condominium owners association by
filing of same with the New York State Attorney
General's Office and the submission of a copy of
same with the Planning Board office.
9. Receipt of site plan review comments by the Principal
Building Inspector.
The location of the mailboxes shall be addressed prior to
the time of their installation by the Greenport Post Office, a
designated Planning Board representative and the site developer.
Ms. Scopaz: I don't know if it's necessary to re-review the
buffer areas as they are the same restrictions that were placed
on Cedarfields, almost word for word.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K., I'll put that in the form of a motion.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion° All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Tim Gray -Board to review the request for an
extension of the final approval.
SCTM ~1000-58-1-2.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that the Planning Board
in accordance with its powers under Section A-106-26A of the
subdivision regulations extend the 30 day period for filing the
approved final subdivision map of Tim Gray to sixty days which
is in conformance with the New York State's Town Law, Article
16, Section 276, Subsection 7.
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Ward: Be it further resolved that the Southold Town
Planning Board set a public hearing at its January I8, meeting
to obtain co~,ent on its proposal to amend Chapter A-106-26A
PLANNING BOARD 36 DECEMBER 18, 1990
of the Subdivision Regulations as follows: Final approval and
filing upon completion of the above requirements and notation to
that effect upon the final plan, it shall be deemed to have
final approval, and the plat shall be properly signed by the
appropriate office of the Planning Board and shall be filed by
the applicant in the office of the County Clerk. Any plat not
so filed or recorded within sixty days of the date upon which
such final plat is approved or considered approved by reasons of
failure of the Planning Board to act shall become null and void.
Mr. Orlowski: Do I have a second on that?
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Cove at Southold - Board to review making a
recommendation to the Building Department in regard to a
Certificate of Occupancy for the pool, the pool house and the
tennis court. SCTM #1000-87-5-20.
Mr. Orlowski: Everything was in order to recommend to the
Building Department that they issue a C.O. for the pool house,
pool, and tennis court.
Mr. Ward: Does that include the landscaping?
Mr. Orlowski: Yes.
Mr. Orlowski: I'll entertain that motion.
Mr. Edwards: I'll second.
Mr. Orlowski:
motion?
Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
Mr. Latham: I have a question on the cottage, it should be
removed.
Mr. Orlowski: Yes, I think before any final C.O. is issued for
this project the cottage must be removed.
Mr. Orlowski: Ail those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward.
PLANNING BOARD 37 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Next we have A Local Law in Relation to Zoning -
Board to review the proposed Local Law to amend Section
100-31.B(7)(c) of the zoning code. This section would be
amended as follows: (c) Except for public golf courses, such
use shall not be cOnducted for profit as a business enterprise.
This would be in the open space. What is the pleasure of the
board on this local law?
Mro Ward: I move that we reco~m,end the Town Board to consider
this amendment, to approve it.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Any questions on the motion?
Mr. Latham: I~m not going to vote for it. Golf courses are all
right but they do use a lot of harmful pesticides, more than
most anything else. Also water and under the guides of the
agriculture conservation district that they are putting other
things in it. They do it to keep the space open.
Mr. Ward: The purpose of the amendment is simply to permit golf
courses to be operated for profit in the A-C zone. Currently,
public golf courses may not be operated for profit. This
virtually precludes same from being established. This matter
was discussed by the Code Committee and approved.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other questions on thismotion? Ail those in
favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward.
Opposed: Mr. Latham:
Mr. Orlowski: So moved.
Mr. Orlowski: A Local Law in Relation to ZoninG - Board to
review the proposed local law to amend Section 100-262A by
deleting the fee required.
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion that the Planning Board recommend
to the Town Board that the proposed local law amending Section
100-26A be adopted. This proposed amendment will eliminate the
payment of duplicate fees for Special Exception applications by
applicants.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
PLANNING BOARD 28 DECEMBER 18, 1990
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: I have nothing left on my agenda. Any questions
from the board?
Board: No questions.
Mrs. Ronnie Wacker: I just wanted to bring to your attention an
article that had been in the Traveler Watchman about three weeks
ago and it was an interview byLydia Tortora with Valerie
Scopaz in which Valerie pointed out that we are going to have
real heavy problems in another few years in traffic, a grid lot
situation in various spots in town. She mentioned that there is
something like four or five hot spots in town and we won't be
aware of them immediately. It won't be a year from now that all
of a sudden all five of them Will be put in place and will get
out on the road and we won't be able to get up to Main Road but,
it will be incremental and year after year there is going to be
more. We should now be thinking ~hout what this impact is going
to be. This is something that NFEC has asked a number of
times at public hearings on the Master Plan Environmental Impact
Statement and we've gotten no satisfactory or response. We do
think that this a matter that the Planning Board should be
considering very carefully. This should be an entire Town
Traffic Impact study and I hope that you would consider and
recommend to the Town Board that this be done.
Mr. Orlowski: We have been pretty busy lately. Eventually we
will be moved down the hall and stretched out a little bit,
hopefully we be able to catch up. When we do get caught up we
will be addressing those problems.
Mrs. Wacker: If we can help in any way, we would certainly like
to.
Mr. Orlowski: The last engineer on a road study wanted
$158,000.0~, so if you can do it cheaper than that.
we have talked ~bout this so it will be on the agenda as soon as
we get straightened out. Any other question.
Elizabeth Vasurer: I live in Saltaire Way in Mattituck. I
came to discuss with you the proposed subdivision the Matthews
Property in Mattituck. I would like to see some things changed
on this plan because they affect my neighborhood greatly in
PLANNING BOARD 39 DECEMBER 18, 1990
terms of traff
is the propose
families in m~
ten, there see
ride bicycles,
single day.
Lane is alread
that play thez
where it meets
and because t
ic. The first thing I would like to see changed
[ opening of Wave Crest Lane. There are many
neighborhood with small children under the age of
to be more and more of them all the time. They
roller skates and they are outside playing every
be T intersection at Saltaire Way and Wave Crest
a bad intersection in terms of these children
. There is a worse intersection at Reeve Avenue
Wave Crest Lane. It is another T intersection
e road has a slight incline, people coming from
south to north~on Reeve Avenue can't be seen by people coming
out of Wave cr~st Lane and making a left:hand turn on Reeve
Avenue. It ha!s been something I've been writing to the town
about for over ten years. To cut through,Wave Crest Lane to
reach this nee development would be very dangerous. We heard
from Valerie bout possibly when they build the new subdivision
keeping the tz[cks out of our neighborhood. That is a very nice
gesture but I ~n't~think it can really be enforced. We would
have to post ~mebody there or we would be put in the position
of enforcing omething and it would be very difficult. I think
what would ma ~ more sense would be to put the cluster of homes
to the south e id of this property as opposed to the north end
where it appea~s now. Make possibly a horse shoe for those
people in the new subdivision or a cul-de-sac going into the
property. Thei way it stands right now doesn't make a lot of
sense. It willl also create a lot more traffic on Soundview
Avenue which ils suppose to remain a scenic road not a developed
road and I would appreciate your consideration of these
changes. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: We have looked 'at that very closely but we
haven't gotte~to sketch on it yet and I believe the people down
there have met~ with Ms. Scopaz and being it is such a narrow
piece of property it is hard to do anything with it except to
(~naud~ble). Our suggestion was not to open that road until
after the road! construction is finished to any construction
vehicles. Other than that it is a very tough piece of property
to lay out and. as I said we haven't gotten sketch yet but I will
take those comments into consideration.
Mr. John Coste~lo: I have one minor problem. On the board's
wording of the~contract with the Village of Greenport, there is
going to be a small revision with the contract wording. The
original contract that was signed June 15, 1989 has some
concerns with ~he Suffolk County Health Department. We were
making those revisionsto appease the Health Department so the
date will more than likely be a different date and I wanted to
bring it to the board's attention.
Mr. Orlowski: On the water contract itself.
Mr. Costello: yes. The wording is going to be revised slightly.
Mr. Orlowski: I don't think that is a great problem.
PLANNING BOARD 40 DECEMBER 18, i990
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments or questions? Hearing none,
I'll entertain a motion.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everybody'.
Being there was no further business to come before the board the
meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Jane Rousseau
Temporary Secretary
-' k' ~, - Chairman/
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