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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-06/19/1989Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold. New York 11971 TELEPHONE ~516) 765-1938 PLANNING BOARD OFFICE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD PLANNING BOARD MINUTES JUNE 19,1989 The Southold Town Planning Board held a regular meeting on Monday, June 19, 1989 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road Southold. Present were: Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman Member William Mullen Member G. Richie Latham Member Kenneth Edwardg Member Richard Ward Town Planner Valerie Scopaz Planner Melissa Spiro Mr. Orlowski: Good evening, I would like to call this meeting to order. First order of business is Sunbeau Associates - Before I open the public hearing, I will enterts~n a motion to reconuaend a revised bond estimate of $99,150 for Sunbeau Associates to the Town Board for their approval~ Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: I would like to open this public hearing on the amended map dated May 31, 1989. This subdivision is on 30.637 acres located at Mattituck. We have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchman and also have proof of publication in the Suffolk Times. At this time everything is in order for a public hearing. I'll ask if there are any objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any endorsements of this PLANNING BOARD 2 JUNE 19, 1989 subdivision? Hea~ing none, is there anyone out there neither pre nor con but may have information pertaining to this subdivision that would be of interest to the board? Are there any questions from the hoard? Board Members: No questions. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., no further questions I'll declare this hearing closed. At this time since we a~e amending a subdivision map which was approved, ~nd since this is one lot being transferred out of an approved subdivision, I'll entertain a motion to approve the subdivision datedMay 31, 1989. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion mad~ and seconded. Ally questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward,- Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: And also motion to authorize the chairman to endorse the maps dated May ~l, 1989 upon completion of the following conditions a payment of 6% inspection .fee.. I'll entertain that-motion. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: North RoadAssociates - Board to keep the public hearng open from February 6, 1989. This minor subdivision is on 16.886 acres located at Orient. SCTM $t000-I8-4-1. Mr. Orlowski: The applicant has still not come up with the information we need to close this hearing. What is the pleasure of the board? Mr. Latham: I move we keep it open until we receive all the info~mation we have requested. PLANNING BOARD 3 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion m~de and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Fir. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Orlowski Mr. Ward. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Monday, July 10, 1989 at 7:30 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold as the time and place for the next regular planning Board meeting. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? Ail those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ortowski-. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Board to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of June 5, 1989. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. SUBDIVISIONS: Finals: Mr. Orlowski: Frank and Myrtle Hendrickson - Board to authorize the Ch~rm~n to endorse the fiD~l maps dated December PLANNING BOARD 4 JUNE 19, 1989 2, 1988. This lot line change is on 95,756 square feet located at Soutbotd. SCTM $1000-70-4-44 & 45. Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order. All the conditions of the final approval have been met and I'll entertaJ_u a motion to endorse it. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made an4 seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen Mr. Edwards. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (Chairman signed five maps). John Wagner took one. SEQRA DE~ATIONE: So ordered. Preliminary: None: Sketches: Mr. Orlowski: Fishers Island Utility - Board to review the resolutions of June 5, 1989 for this subdivision, This minor s~division is on 2.53 acres located at Fishers Island. SCTM ~1000-6-6-2. Mr. Edwards: If you remember ab out last meeting we granted sketch approval on this parcel based on a letter from the ZBA which stated that under the new master plan the parcel is zoned R-40. Under proven inspection we found that it was not, it was R-80. I would like to move that we recind our two motions of the meeting of June 5, 1989. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowki: Motion ma8~ and seconded. Any question~ on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen Mr. Edwards. Mr. Ortowski: Opposed? PLANNING BOARD 5 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: Paul Matthews - Boazd to start the coordination process to determine lead agency ~nd envizonmental significance. This major subdivision is on 69.9 acres located at Mattituck. SCTN ~1000-100-2-1. Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to start this coordination process. Mr. Latham: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Edwards Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: 7:45 p.m. Russell Weiss - Pu3~lic Hearing on the amended map datectMay 11, 1989. This subdivision is on 5.263 acres located at Mattituck. SCTM ~1000 100-2-5. Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchman and publication in the Suffolk Times. Everything is in order at the present time. I'll ask if there are any objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any endorsements of this subdivision? Hearing none, is there anyone out there neither pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this subdivision that ma~ be of interest to the board? Any questions from the board? Board members: No questions. Mr. Orlowski: At this time I will declaze this hearing closed. Mr. Orlowski: This is Russell Weiss' part o~ Sunbeau subdivision and we are setting off a lot adjoining Mr. Weiss' property. I would say that everything is in order to approve the maps dated May tl, 1989 and to authorize the chaiaman to endorse the same. Mr. Latham: So moved. ~. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: I would just like. to state for the record that the C and R on the Sunbeau sutxiivision will go along on tbgs property which will be taken over by Mr. Weiss. PLANNING BOARD 6 JUNE 19, 1989 M~. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Lath~m, Mr. Edwards, M~. Ward Mr. Ortowski Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. (Chairman signed maps) Mr. Orlowski: Dorothy Robertson - Board to make a determination under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. This minor subdivision is on 2.508 acres located at Orient. SCTM ~1000-I3-1-10. Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order for a Negative Declaration. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Lath~m: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Orlow~ki, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Cedarfield~/MooreslCnd - Board to make a determination on the completeness of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. Board to initiate a public cn,,,,,ent period o~ thirty (30) calendar days from the date of this resolution. This public comment period will run until July 19, 1989. Board to set Monday, July 10, 1989 at 7:45 p.m. for a public hearing on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement. This project is located on Moores Lane at Greenport. SCTM ~1000-4-5-t. Mr. Orlowski: What is the board's pleasure on the draft environmental impact statement? Mr. Edwards: Vote we except that. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Edwards: Motion. to accept the bo-und Draft Environm.ental Impact S~atement. togethe~ with the correspondence from Don~ld Bracken dated April 19, 1989, as complete. The bound document consists of the original document prepared in April 1987 and two s~ppl~m~nt~ dated ~nd revised iD J~n~ 1987, October 1988 ~nd PLANNING BOARD 7 JUNE 19, 1989 December 1988. These documents were bound together and s~hmitted to the Pl~n~g Board office OhM ay 19, 1989. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? Ail those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, 5ir. Mu!ten Mr. Orlowski. Fir. Orlowsk~: Opposed? So Mr. Orlowski: I'll entertain a motion to initiate a public comment period of thirty (30) calendar days from the date of this resolution. This pub]ic comment periodwill run until July 19, 1989. Mr. Ward: So moved. Fir. Latb~m: Second. Mr. Ortowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, ~Lr. Latham, Mr. Edward~, Mr. Mullen Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: I would like to make a motion to set a public hearing on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement for Monday, July 10, 1989 at 7:45 p.m. Mr. Mullen: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mrl Ortowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? REPORTS AND BONDS: So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Harbor View Realty - board to accept the SidNey B. Bowne & Son report dated June 9, 1989, which reduces the bond estimate to $854,190.00. Board to extend the Irrevocable Lettez of Credit from June 20, 1989 to Sept~m~ez ~0, 1989, for the PLANNING BOARD 8 JUNE 19, 1989 amount of $854,190.00. Board to recommend the reduced bond estlm&te for $854,190.00 and ~he extension on ~e Irrevocablm Letter of Credit to September 20, 1989 to the Town Board for their review and approval of same. SCTM %1000-115-17-17. Mr. Mullen: I question ~ny it wasn't extended for a year which it should be? Mr. Orlowski: I was going to ask ~hat sam~ question. Is there anyone here representing Harbor View? The other one expires tomorrow so I would say we accept this one. Mr. Ward: I move resolution Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Mullen: I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that we advise the Town Board and the attorney of ou~ problem regarding the extension and suggest they get it for a minimum of one year. Mr. Orlowski: O.K. Mr. Mullen: Security Bond by the Town is usually for a three year period. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., we have a motion made and seconded to recommend a redfaced bond estim~teandthe extension oE the irrevocable letter of credit. All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. EdwarS~, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: I'll entertain a motion to accept the Sidney Bowne report dated June 9, 1989. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconS~d. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Mohring Enterprises - Board to review the engineer report dated June 5, 1989. Tb~s minor subdivision is on 34.5765 acres located at Mattituck. SCTM ~1000-75-6-7. PLANNING BOARD 9 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to adopt this report. Applicant already has a copy. ~ir. Latham: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? Ail those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Long Meadow Estates - Board to review th~ engineer repozt dated April 28, 1989. This major subdivision is on 36.9636 acres located at Mattituck. SCTM 91000-113-7-19.2. Mr. Wazd: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Mr. Orlowski: Lon9 Pond Estates~ Section I - Board to review the engineez report dated June i2, 1989. This major subdivision is located at Southold. SCTM $1000-52-8-(1-4) Mr. Edward~: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Multen Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. PLANNING BOARD 10 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: For the record we have a letter saying that they will replace any trees that die within a years time Mr. Orlowski: Elijah's Lane~ Section II - Board to make a recommendation to th~ Town Board in regard to the Bond Estimate. Board to set Monday, July t0~ 1989 at 7:30 p.m. for a public hearing on the final maps dated March 21, 1987. This major s~bd~vision is on 20.3 acres located atMattituck. SCTM ~1000-108-4-p/o 7.1. Mr. Orlowski: The bond estimate is for $466,475.00 and everything is in order to make a recnmmendation to the Town Board for approval. Mr. La,ham: So moved. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. An~ questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: M~. Mullen, Fir. Latah~m, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward Mr. Orlowski Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr~ Orlowski: Motion to set a final hearing for July 10, 1989 at 7:30 p.m. Mr. Edwards: So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: We do need the updated Health approval but it should be in by then. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made mhd secondmd. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Sem~ M. Delehant¥ - Board to review the Suffolk County Planning Co~m~ssion report dated June. 9, 1989. Board to start the coordination process to determine lead agency and environmental sigDgficance. This lot linm change is on 2.74 acres located at Mattituck. SCTM ~1000-107-1-13-14. PLANNING BOARD 11 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to adopt the Planning Commission report. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. We are adopting it with five conditions. The other co,,,,,ents that are on tb~ report are only co~ents. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor. Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham~ Mr. Mullen Mr. Orlowski Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Garrick L. Maltery - Board to review the Suffolk County Planning Commission report dated June 12, 1989. This lot line change is on 2.9 acres located at Nassau Point. SCTM 91000-118-1-16,t7,18.1 Mr. Orlowski: Everything is in order to adopt. Mr. Mullen: Mr. Cbatrm~n, I wouldlike to have a further review of this situation because t believe approximately a year or so ago there was another change in that immediate area where someone had purchased a lot from this applicant and had put a lot line change in there. I don't believe this is proper for the area. Mr. Orlowski: Is anyone representing the applicant h~re? Mr. Tuthill: I am with Richard Lark's office representing the applicant. Mr. Mullen: I believe that not too long ago that this was a lot owned by Mrs. Pfieff and it was set off with a stipulation to one side of them and now they are doing something else to it. I can't quite understand the sit~ation. Mr. Tuthill: I'm not clear as to. Mr. Mullen: In other WOrds, approximately a year ago in that area there wa~ a gentlemen to the oth~r sid~ of her that had purchased, a lot and they had divided it, now we are doing further division of this property which is a very fra~ite area. I~wouldlike to look at it a little closer if you do net m~nd. Mr. Orlowski: We will set it up for an inspection. This was already set off and we just want to see where this lot line is. PLANNING BOARD 12 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Tuthill: Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Orlowski: Are you talking about lot 2 or 17 Well, we want to check your side yard set-backs Barbara Sowinski - Board to review the Suffolk County Planning Co~ission report dated June 9, 1989. This minor subdivision is on 4.3075 acres located at Cutchogue. SCTM ~1000-103-1-20.2. Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards: five. Mr. Mul.len: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion m~ae an~ seconded. motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham Mr. Orlowski Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. What is the pleasure of th~board? I move to adopt the report numbers one through Any question~ on the Mr. Orlowski: PublicHearing of Thomasr Sh~]vey- This is a public hearing on the final maps dated January2, 1989. This minor subdivision is on 5.9130 acres located at Cutchogue. SCTM ~t000-B4-4-11. Mr. Orlowski: We have proof of publication in the Long Island Traveler Watchman and the Suffolk Times. At this time everything is in order to bare a fln~l hearing. I~ll a~k if there are any~ objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any endors~ments of this subdivision? Karen Stretz from Wickham, Wickh~m an~ Bressle~,. At this time I have nothing to add to the application and I believe everything is in order. Mr. Orlowski: Hearing none, is there anyone out ~here who is neither pro nor con but may have information pertaining to this subdivision that might be of interest to the board? Hearing none, are there.any questions from ~ board? Board members: No questions. Mr. Orlowski: No further questions, I will declare this hearing closed. PLANNING BOARD 13 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: At this time everything is in order to approve the map dated J~nuary 2, 1989 and also to authorize the to endorse. Mr. Ward: I would like to present the motion, Mr. Chairm~n. W~WmEAS, Thomas Shelley, is the owner of the property known and designated as Section 84, Block 4, Lot i1 located on Bridge Lane at Cutchogue; and WHEREAS, Thomas Shslvey, Sl~hmitted to the Planning Board of the Town of Southoldan application for a minor subdivision including an Environmental Assessment Form on July tl, 1988, in compliance with New York State Environmental ~1%ty Review Law; and WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Southold pursusnt to the State ENvironmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617 Title 6NYCRR having declared itself Lead Agency and having issued a negative declaration on September 18, 1988; WHEREAS, a Public Hearing on such application was held on June 19, 1989 at 8:00 p.m. at the Town'Hall, Sou~hold, New York; and WHEREAS, the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met by sai~ubdivision application; NOW, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Thomas Shalvey, map dated January 2, 1989, be approved, and the Chairm~n be authorized to endorse said approvsl with the following condition. (1) Street trees are to be planted in accordence wibh Town speciEications Mr. Edwards: Second the motion. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those 4n favor? Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mutlen, Mr. Ward Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. CHANGES OF ZONE: None PLANNING BO~dRD 14 JUNE 19, 1989 SITE PLANS Mr. Orlowski - SunoilRefin~nG - Board to start the coordination process to determine lead agency and environmental significance. This site plan is located on the Main Road a_nd Factory Avenue in Mattituck. SCTM 91000-142-1-17. Mr. Orlowski: process. Mr. Edwards: Everything is in order to start ~his coordination So moved. Mr. Ward: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Mullen Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. AGent for Applicant: May I ask the board for an indication of the time frame that we will be proceeding in now? We als0 have a pending application in the Zoning Board of Appeals. Will your board take lead agency status? Mr. Orlowski: We just did ~nd we are starting th~ coordinatinn process and with SEQRA you know as well as I know if there are no problems within the 30 day period we will move on. You're at the ZBA right now? Agent for applicant: We're filed but they are waiting the outcome of your review before they proceed. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., well we have to wait for 30 days. AGent for applicant: The reason t asked the question as t am sure you are aware, at the request of your staff we had previously s,,bm~tted a traffic study and if there is any additional data or supplemental reports which you might require of them to facilitate the SEQRA Review, just let me know and I will try and get it to you aN soon as possible. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., our reviewers have the traffic study so if there are any comments or question~ we will have them get a hold of you. Mr. Orlowski: Port of Egypt - Board to make a determination under the State EI1vironmedltal Quality Review Act. Tb~s site plan is located the the Main Road at Southold. PLANNING BOARD 15 JUNE 19, 1989 SCTM %1000-56-6-6.1. Mr. Latham: The request should be made for the following items: (I) ~ne drainage plans, specifically in relation to parking, and proposed bu~ld~ng, must be revised so ~ to be consistent with the up-dated site plan received in this office on April 19, 1989. (2) All maps must be signed and sealed by the licensed New York State professional responsible for preparing the plans. (3) Site grades, grading, and drainage for the parking areas must beshown. All areas shown as available for parking must actually be available for parking. (4) A landscape plan must be submitted for review by the PlaDn~ng Board. Existing landscaping in ~he westerly front yard should be indicated as such. April 19th, plan shows it as parking. (5) The location of ail d~]mpste~s ar~lahove ground fuel storage tanks must be shown on the site plan. Mr. Latham: I would like to make a motion for a negative declaration and here are ~h~ rea~on~ why: (a) The applicant is to provide a positive on-site syst~, to collect roof ~noff and site storm drainage. (b) An oil separator for the boat repair and washdown area is provided, th~ there will be no d~rect discharge into the bay. (c) A porous surface of crushed stone is to be used to absorb minor spills, and reduce d~rect run into the bay. (d) The Planning Board ~as requimedthat a landscape plan be su~z~itted for review; with particular emphasis on the road frontage. (e) The parking providex~is satisfactory to the ~lanning Board, however, all outside storage racks are not to be utilized for boat storage during the summer months; the area is needed for parking. (f) The Planning Board has determi/le~hat the proposed facility is a n~eded facility is a needed facility in the co~,,unity, and that the proposed locatio is environmentally appropriate. Mr. Mullen: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Latbam, Mr. Edward~, Mr. Orlowski. Abstained: Mr. Ward. Mr. Orlowski: So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: I have one more resolution on Carl J. Graseck - Board to make a determination under the State Environmental Quality Review Act. Board to review the final map dare, May 30, 1989. What is the pleasure of the beard? PLANNING BOARD 16 JUNE 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: I believe everytb~og is in order and I would like to make a ~otion to do. an uncoordinated review. The Planning Board takes Lead Agency, and as Lead Agency make a determination of non-significance. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Latham: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any question~ on th~ motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Edwards F~. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Mr. Orlowski: Also, W~RD~S, Caml J. Graseck, is the owner of the property known and designated as Section 63, Block 1, Lot 21 located on the North Road at Southold; and WHEREAS, Carl J. Graseck submitted to the Planning Board of the Town of Southold a site plan application including an Enviro~ental Assessment form on April 3, 1989, in compliance with NeW York State Environm~_ntalQ~lityReview Law; ~nd WHEREAS, the Planning Board of the Town of Southotd pursue~.to the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Par~617 Title 6NYCRRbaving d~clared itsel~ Lead Agency ~n~ having ~ssued a negative declaration June 19, 1989; and NO~, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the application of Carl J. Gras~ck, map d~ted May 30, 1989, be approved and th~ Cha~rm~n be authorized to endorse said approval subject to the following condition: 1. The drainage calculation must be revised as follows: Drainage calculations (new existing pavement) 3,200 sq. ft. pavemeDt 1,500 sq. ft. roof 4,700 sq. ft. Proposed 1,408 sq. ft. pavement 1,500 sq. ft. roof 2908 Total 7,608 = 0.17 acre x 2.5 x 1 = 1530 cu. ft. PLANNING BOARD 17 JUNE 19, 1989 Provide 2 x 10~ x 12' deep L.P. 68.4 x 24 = 1642 cu. ft. Provide 1,642 cu. ft. Mr. Orlowski: This will go on as a condition. Mr. Edwards: Second. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposecl? So ordered. DISCUSSIONS: Mr. Orlowski: Sidney Olmsted - Board to discuss this application with the applicant. This minor subdivision is on 3+ acres located at Mattituck. SCTM ~1000-114-7-14. Mr. Orlowski - I will abstain from voting. Mr. Olmsted - If it would please the board, I would like to make a statmmmnt so that I can get all my views across. I wrote this this afternoon. I think the County and the Town has lost site of what I am actually trying to do here. On one large lot I have three existing houses. One built at the turn of the century, one mn 1949, one in 1974. We have no intention of selling or otherwise chan~ging anything, we are merely dividing the lot so there will be a combinmd ownemship. As you can see we each own one lOt totally and jointly share the third. It is very easy to plan development on empty field, not so with an existing h~mesites. I realize that when you saw the improved groups drawing on lot two you would probably have thought I was trying to put something over on you. We intend to r~move the portion of the improved driveway ~h~t is on lot one mhd connect lot two to the proposed right-of-way. I note also that you removed the waterfront privileges from lot n~mmber one because you m~de the right-of-way so large. Understanding when the ZBA grants an appeal and approves lot lines, I understand more or iess they are settled then. I also note that under the Master Plan I fall under one acre zon4ng. I hame perfect cnnditions here, one acre lots, wells, great drainage, no run-off into the creek because of all the fragile sand. In the sand, things grow very slowly mhd if I have to ~ns~mll a tra~Cic circle h~]f the size of the Roanoke interchs~ge, I will destroy naturally seeded trees, Bayberries, Beach Plums and Wild Grapes that have taken up to thirty years to get a start. There is also a PLANNING BOARD 18 JUNE 19, 1989 question of a utility pole in the middle of this thing. The cesspools are fairly close. If you look on the drawing the lot nearest Westphalia Road has an odd looking thumb shaped cut from the creek. That was caused by illegal run-off from Westphalia Roadsoon after th~ dredging and fill in 1955 or i956. ~ight now both sides of Westphalia Road still illegally run-off onto our property, but that is another ~tter which I will discuss with someone else. If I were to construct a traffic circle as you suggest, I might have still even more run-off into the creek and if you noticed Mattituck Creek last week-end, June 10th and llth, it was as pretty brown and I haven't seen it that brown since the 1955 hurricane. I do not want to contribute to this run-off and I hope you feel the same way. This property been in my f~mily since 1915. It is my roots and I plan to retire here. I don't cut the beach grass, I don't pollute the water and we ohide people who do'. I try to make mostly natural plantings and the trustees require ~t no one shall fertilize within 100 feet of the water or wetlands. I'll do it, no problem. I am a native son, not developer with lawyers or consultants. I have not appeared heze at any time to speed this thing along even though you've been doing it since February of 1987. I also note that in the State Building Cede Rule 28QA State and Town provides t~t ~here shall he provided a suitable access road but no where does it say anything about a turn-around or circle. We anticipate no problems getting in and out of our property in ~he future nor did we have any problems in the past. We also note that we have our approvals from the Suffolk County Department of Health, the New York State of Rnvironmental Conservation ~n place for some time. I thank you for your time. Mr. Ward: There really is no reason the turn- around has to be excluded, we can leave it as a right-of-way, One of the problems with the layout is the fact that the right-of-way is taking away s~mre footage from the lots. It could be a right-of-way ra~hmr t~mn a separate parcel and that way it could just be property on the lot rather than have to be discounted. Mr. Olmstead: The way I understand it, would jointly own the right-of- way. Mr. Ward: I think it might be cleaner just to leave the lot lines through and have a right-of-way rather than dedicating out the right-of-way because it would never be expmnded. Mr. Orlowski: It will be on the board's next work session and we will get back to you the end of next week. Mr. Orlowski: Grange (former Church of the Open D~or)- Board to discuss this proposal with the applicant. This proposal is located on Beckwith Avenue at Southold. PLANNING BOARD 19 JUNE 19, 1989 SCTM ~1000-61-1-25. Mr. Caminiti: I'm appea~ing for Walt G1assner on this Beckwith property, the old church building of the Open Door and the story goes back to when the church first assigned to sell the property and to move. The church was appraised at $160,000, b~t because of the poor market we were not able to sell that building~ At that time, I decided to Buy that building and to move my office from Ma~nRoadup to Beckwith. At the time, we thought we would make it into an office building and I spoke to Victor and he indicated to me that as long as I stayed out of the shopping mall concept, he would allow on~ office and at that time all we needed was the five parking spaces. I think the reasoning at that time was, previously it was a meeting hall which required thirty parking spaces. The building is a lovely building but it lacks one thing, the building occupies most of the property. At least two thirds of the parcel is occupied by the building itself. The church received a special exception and a certificate of occupancy, which at that time also would have allowed, or should have provided thirty parking spaces.. It operated in t~at capacity first as a grange and then as. bh~ church in a very high density area requiring thirty spacss. The thought was well if you are going to go from~highdensity use to low density use and you 0nly require five parking spaces, it would be an allowably change in use. Because the renovation is much to high and Walter then decided., he's a person of the church, he purchased the build~n9 and received a cou~ order. He purchased the building for $160,000. The problem nowvery frankly, .we need your help, we don't ¥~ow what to do with the building. Under the MaSter Plen it's bamletdmnmity and Walter has in mind a office and~small accessory apartment. He had in mind at one time a two family house, but that could~be too much use for the septic system, b~t they would consider one offi~e and an accessory apar~ment. The problem now though is, we have been informed that in oEder to do that we need twenty parking spaces. It is justphysically ~mposSible to put in any parking there at all. I think b~icallyWhat we are doing is asking the board if under the provisions of the town code if you could waive that provision there is ~dd~t~onal parking withL~ ~00 feet or right behind the Mattituck Auto Parts with access from Traveler Street. It is really what we would like ar~l I suggested to Walter to go before the beard ~nd at lea~t get some ideas as to, even if he wants to resell it. I think Nancy has some preliminary sketches and ideas she would like to submit to, but basically, it is a hardship to the ~, there is-really no place to put parking other than Traveler Street. Mr. Ward: Is there public water there? Fir. Cam~ n~ ti: Yes. Mr. Ward: Is the Health Department still giving you a hard time on the sanitarY? PLANNING BOARD 20 JUNE 19~ 1989 Nancy Speetman: The Health Department, their major concern, we talked to Bob Jewel, was that ior two apartments it exceeded the allowed amount of water per day andthey would nnt allow the two apartments. Mr. Ward: What about enlarging the system? Ms. Speelman: The area of the site is so small and so d~se that they wouldn't accept it so we came back with possible one apartment on the upper floor below that we would be less than three h~nd~ed gallon~ a day. Mr. Ward: Is the whole area served by public water? Ms. Speelman: Not in every case. According to their records, there is public water there but a lot of people try not to hook up. Mr. Ward: You have some wells in the area that are being impacted? Ms. Speelm~n: We felt that two apartments would be least amount of parking, least amount of parking on ~he Street. We thought that was the best proposal but now we've come into a problem with the Health apartment so we are looking for alternative uses and let me show you. Here,s a survey of the property, he only cmn put on four parking spaces. To do even four parking spaces we have back out onto Travelers and it is tiqht. Three is fine for realistic. There is a drop, a substar~tial drop towards this part of the ~ildlng from Travele-Es, it ha~ to be filled. Mr. Ward: Is the building line low as well as the floor line in the back? Ms. Speelman: The churmh used it as a play gro~n~ for kids so it can be filled and used for parking. It is a small site, the actual area of the site is about 4600 square feet. Allowable in this district is 20,000 so we are far below the minimum lot. This is part of our problem. What we are thinking of and this is just basically diagrams showing a one bedroom apartment on the uppe~ level which is the act~,at old m~ction, the old grange. Using that, this area is a one story in the rear and then using the entire remaining portion of the building for office space. This proposal yieldm 17 spaces, one for the upper apartment and about 1600 square feet of office area so we're around 17 spaces. You can see where the side is we just can't do it. Mr. C~m~n~ti is pointing out that within ~00 feet, I think it is almost 250, there is a lot that is being teased by the town so potentially that cla~,me in the parking would be some relief for us az a wmiver. Mr. Latham: Is the town just leasing it? PLANNING BOARD 21 JUNE 19, 1989 Ms. Speelman: That's what we've been told by the Highway Superintendent. Mr. Ward: Along Traueler and Beckwith, what kind of parallel parking capability is there? Ms. Speelman: There is some, I don't think it is actually curbed at this point. Beckwith, a lot of people park on Beckwith. Traveler Watchm~n is across the street, there is a lot of activity here. Mr. Mullen: They park down at the railroad station. There is one advantage ~re. It's a one-way street too. Ms. Speelman: Yes, Beckwith is one-way. Mr. Ward: Beckwith is one way, but I think there is some d~scretion about making Traveler one-way East. Does the railroad own the right of way? How far do Mr. Latham: they go out. Mr. Mul len: Mr. Edwards: I th~nk the whole park%ng area is theirs. Who actually owns The land that the Town is leasing for public parking now? Ms. Speelman: ~attituck Auto parts. Mr. Ward: Do you know what the width of Traveler Street is? Ms. Speelman: No I don't. This is fairly wide here. Along Beckwith now, there are accoun~n~ and it's k~nd of a m~d use area. I think next door there are two apartments. Mr. Camin~ti: There is Malgra~f's property to the south, to the west is the old Town ~ll ~b~t was ownectby Loretta DiMa~gio. That exits out onto Main Road right behind the phaz~cy. Oh, that's right, she had that subdivided, The old post office. Mr. Orlowski: Why don't you give us the list of uses that you are considering. Mr. Ward: The rational for what you are doing, numbers that you feet.wok~ldbe a practical number of use o~ cars for this kind of business. Ms. Scopaz: Would there be a possibility of perhaps curbing or place some curbing around Traveler Street so thatthere is a possibility of providing some on street parking there. Mr. Ward: Maybe you can check the actual width of Traveler, maybe we will be half way surprised and find a few more feet. PLANNING BOARD 22 JUNE 19, 1989 MS. Speelm~n: If what I recall, it is relatively wide at this point. Mr. Ward: Yes it is. Mr. Mullen: Let's get some input from them and then take a look at it and check it out. Ms. Speelman: O.K., would you like us to submit a final application at this point? Mr. Ward: If you want, why don't you do a rough one showing parking and showing what you think can be done, what would be reasonable before you go any furthar with it. Ms. Speelman: O.K., maybe what I can do is I can show you directly where that adjacent lot is going to be. Mr. Caminiti: We did have a problem with the visibility on this corner. Mr. Ward: Maybe you should check with Ray Jacobs. Ms. Speelman: Yes, we'll talk to him. the on site park%ng that we have shown? realistic? What do you feel about Do you think that is Mr. Ward: Well, maybe as the apartment use because it is on site for the permanent.use ~d your secendar~e ~n a s~n~e it's not there all the time, it's the. office. Ms. Speelman: So one or two spaces in the rear. Mr. Ward: Yes, I think otherwise you've got a problem. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., I have nothing left on my agenda. Mr. Orlowski: - Dorothy Bosco - I am here on behall of my mother and .she has a hardship situation and I washoping that ~erhaps if you read the details that something could be done. We are waiting for an answer and until we get an answer from the Planning B~ard it holds up everything else. Mr. Orlowski: O.K., we'll review this. Ms. Bosco: Thank you very much. Mr. Orlowski: Nothing further on my agenda, any questions fr~H the board? Board: No questions. PLANNING BOARD 23 JD~E 19, 1989 Mr. Orlowski: No further questions, I'll entertain a motion. Mr. Ward: So moved. Mr. Mutlen: Second: Mr. Orlowski: Ail those in favor? Ayes: Mr. Mullen, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. La~h~m, Mr. Orlowski. Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered. Being no further business to c~ue before the board, on motion made by Mr. Mullen, seconded by Mr. Latham and carried, the meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Bennett Orlowsk~ ~r Cha/'~fman / RECEIVED AND ~/LED .BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK To~ ~erk, To~ of ~old-~ Jane Rousseau, Temporary Secretary