HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-01/14/1991PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.. Chairman
George Ritchie Latham. Jr.
Richard G. Ward
Mark $. McDonald
Kenneth L. Edwards
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SOUTHOLD TOWN PLANNING BOARD
SCOTT L. HARRIS
Supervisor
Town Hall. 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold. New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1823
MINUTES
JANUARY 14, 1991
Present were:
Bennett Orlowski Jr., Chairman
G. Richie Latham
Kenneth Edwards
Richard Ward
Mark McDonald
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Holly Perrone
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening, I would like to call this meeting
to order. First order of business at 7:30 p.m. Howard
Rosenstone - This major subdivision is for four lots on 13.64
acres located on the south side of Oregon Road; 22.07 feet east
of Cox's Lane in Cutchogue. SCTM $ 1000-83-3-2. We have
proof of publication in both local papers and at this time
everything is in order for a final hearing. I'll ask if there
are any objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there
any endorsements of this subdivision?
Gary Olsen: I am an attorney and my office is on Main Road in
Cutchogue. I represent the applicant Howard Rosenstone. This
is a minor subdivision and we have been through all the
procedures with the Planning Board and I would like to urge its
approval.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other endorsements of this subdivision?
Hearing none, is there anyone ouu there who is neither pro nor
con but may have information pertaining to this subdivision that
would be of interest to the Board? Hearing none, any questions
from the Board?
Board: No questions.
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Mr. Orlowski: Being there are no further questions, I will
declare this hearing closed. Does the Board have any pleasure?
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion that
the following resolution be adopted.
WHEREAS, Howard Rosenstone is the owner of the property
known and designated a SCTM $ 1000-83-3-2, located on the
south side of Oregon Road; 222.47 feet east of Cox's Lane in
Cutchogue; and
WHEREAS, this major subdivision, to be known as Howard
Rosenstone, is for four lots on 13.64 acres; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 6), Part 617,
declared itself Lead Agency and issued a Negative Declaration
on September 12, 1988; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was closed on said
subdivision application at the Town Hall, Southold, New York on
January 14, 1991; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision
Regulations of the Town of Southold have been met; and
be it therefore, RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning
Board grant conditional final approval on the surveys dated July
19, 1989, subject to fulfillment of the following conditions.
All conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of
this resolution.
Submission of a bond, Letter of Credit, or the
equivalent in the amount of $127.387.50.
Submission of the inspection fee in the amount of
$7,643.25.
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Submission of the Park and Playground fee in the
amount of $8,000 ($2,000 per lot as per Section
A106-38E of the Subdivision Regulations).
4. Stating the name of the road on the final map.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:35 p.m. William and Vera Molchan - This
minor subdivision is for two lots on 5.133 acres located on the
north side of Ruth Road opposite Sunset Drive in Mattituck.
SCTM ~ 1000-106-1.3. We have proof of publication in both the
local papers and at this time I will ask if there are any
objections to this subdivision? Hearing none, are there any
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endorsements of this subdivision? Hearing none, any questions
from the Board?
Board: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: Being there are no further questions, I will
declare this hearing closed. Does the Board have any pleasure?
Mr. Ward: I would like to offer a resolution for the Chairman
to endorse the map.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Hearing Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Mr. Orlowski: North Forty - This major subdivision is for
thirteen lots on 30.3565 acres on the south side of Oregon Road;
621 feet west of Depot Lane in Cutchogue.
SCTM 81000-95-4-14.1. We are still examining all the
alternative options for the ownership of the open space and I'll
entertain a motion to keep this hearing open.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Baxter Sound Estates - This minor subdivision
is for two lots on 5.022 acres located on the north side of
Oregon Road, 1100 feet west of Bridge Lane in Cutchogue. We
have our road inspector's report. What is the pleasure of the
Board?
Mr. Ward: I would like to offer the following resolution.
PLANNING BOARD 4 JANUARY 14, 1991
Be it RESOLVED to adopt the Road Inspector's report dated
December 20, 1990. Revised maps must be submitted in accordance
with this report.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: We also have the bond estimate, what is the
Board's pleasure.
Mr. Latham: I recommend we accept it.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Mr. Latham: The bond estimate is in the amount of $86,186.00,
with an inspection fee in the amount of $5,171.16.
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: O.K., I think everything is in order now so I
will entertain a motion to close the hearing.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Eleanor Sievernich This minor subdivision
is for two lots on 3.7648 acres located on the east side of Cox
Neck Lane in Mattituck. SCTM $ 1000-113-8-5.
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Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we keep this
one open while we wait for a response from the report from the
Board of Trustees and for the co~tut~ents from our attorney.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. 0rlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF
APPLICATIONS
Final Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski: Howard Rosenstone - SCTM $1000-83-3-2.
Done Already.
Setting of Final Hearings:
Mr. Orlowski: Barbara Sowinski - This minor subdivision is
for two lots on 4.3075 acres located at Cutchogue.
SCTM $1000-103-1-20.2.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set
Monday, February 4t 1991 at 7:30 p.m. for a final pnhlic hearing
on the maps dated October 2, 1990.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Latham, Mr. Mcdonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Setting of Preliminary Hearings:
Mr. Orlowski: Smm~.it Estates This major subdivision is
for thirty-five lots on 40.8223 acres located on the southwest
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corner of Main Road NYS Rte.25 and Shipyard Lane in East
Marion.
SCTM ~1000-35-8-5-3.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman I would like to offer the following
resolution.
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday,
February 4, 1991 at 7:35 p.m. for a preliminary public hearing
on the maps dated October 26, 1990.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Southold Villas - This subdivision is for
seventeen affordable lots. The parcel is located on the west
side of N.Y.S. Rte. 25 approximately 1,400 feet north of
Ackerly Pond Lane in Southold. SCTM 91000-70-1-6.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
Be it RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board set
Monday, February 4, 1991 at 7:40 p.m. for a preliminary public
hearing on the subdivision maps dated October 30, 1990.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Orlowski, M~. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Sketch Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski: Jerome & Cichanowicz - This major subdivision
is for 17 lots on 35.7022 acres located on the north side of
Main Road (N.Y.S. Rte. 25) off Maple Road in Southold.
SCTM $1000-75-2-8 & 9.
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Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
sketch approval on the map dated November 1, 1990, submitted
January 2, 1990, with the following conditions:
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Lot 2 is to be revised so that it is at least
125 feet in width at the building setback line.
Access, either by ownership or 280A approval, must
be obtained.
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Latham, Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Harry C. and Janet Hohn - This minor
subdivision is for three lots on 7.368 acres located on the
southwest corner of Aborn Lane & Nassau Point Road in
Cutchoque.
SCTM $ 1000-118-6-1 & 3.1
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
motion:
Be it RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
sketch approval on the map dated January 7, 1991, with the
following conditions:
There is to be no further subdivision of any
lot in perpetuity.
The non-use area is to be left in its natural
state.
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Lot 1 is to have access over the existing driveway
which is partly located on land owned now or formerly
by Mario and Ilse Trombone.
Mr. Edwards:
Lot 2 and 3 are to have access over Aborn Lane~
Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
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Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
John Wagner: I have three additional prints of the subdivision
plat.
Mr. Orlowski: Thank you.
Sketch Extensions:
Mr. Orlowski: Marion Robins - This minor subdivision is for
three lots on 6.039 acres on the northeast corner of Baldwin
PlaCe and Little Neck Road located at East Cutchogue.
SCTM $1000-103-10-2.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
Be it RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant
two retroactive six month extensions of sketch approval. The
extension will expire June 18, 1991.
This is the last extension that the Planning Board will be
granting.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Thomas W. Russell, Jr. - This minor
subdivision is for two lots on 2.22 acres located on Heathulie
Avenue and Beach Avenue in Fishers Island.
SCTM $ 1000-9-11-9.1.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Ptann±nq Board grant a six month
extension for sketch approval from January 18, 1991, to July 18,
1991.
This is the last extension that the Planning Board will be
granting.
PLANNING BOARD 9 JANUARY 14, 1991
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Michael & Claire Glew. This set-off is on a
9.182 acre parcel located on the north side of Main Road on a
private road known as Mill Path, approximately 800 feet east of
BaY Home Road in Southold. SCT~ ~1000-56-1-4.1.
Mro Ward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the
following resolution.
RESOLVED THAT THE Southold Town Planning Board grant a six
(6) month extension of sketch approval from January 26, 1991 to
July 26, 1991.
This is the last extension the Plarn~ing Board will be
granting.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski,
Mr. Latham, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Review of Reports: Road Inspector
Mr. Orlowski: Cornfields - This major subdivision is for
ten lots on 20.995 acres located on the east side of Young's
Avenue; approximately 500 feet north of Middle Road (C.R. 48) in
Southold. SCTM 1000-55-2-9.1.
Mr. Latham: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED to adopt the Road Inspector's report dated
January 7, 1991.
Revised maps in accordance with the report must be
s~mitted to this office for review.
PLANNING BOARD 10 JANUARY 14, 1991
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded.
motion? Ail those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Orlowski:
Any questions on the
Opposed? So ordered.
Baxter Sound Estates -
SCTM %1000-72-3-2.1 & 3
(Done Already)
Bond Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski:
Baxter Sound Estates -
SCTM %1000-72-3-2.1 & 3
(Done Already)
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES, SET OFF
APPLICATIONS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
Lead Agency Process:
Mr. Orlowski: Bayberry Estates - This major subdivision is
for eighteen lots on 50.071 acres located on the west side of
Laurel Avenue; 140 feet south of Yennecott Drive in So~thold.
SCTM % 1000-55-6-35,36 and 1000-56-1-1.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board,
acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, assume
lead agency status on this unlisted action.
As requested on October 19, 1990, the Planning Board awaits
your client's payment of the cost for review of the Long
Environmental Assessment Form.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? Ail those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
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Mr. Orlowski: Jerome Cichanowicz -
SCTM ~1000-75-2-8 & 9.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning BOard start
the Lead Agency coordination process on this unlisted action.
Mro Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: John S. Guest and Margaret H. Guest - This
minor subdivision is for three lots on 13.7 acres located on the
west side of Crescent Avenue on Fishers Island.
SCTM ~ 1000-6-1-5.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board
rescind their resolution of December 17, 1990, which started the
Lead Agency coordination process on this unlisted action. The
parcel is located within a Critical Environmental Area and is
thus classified as a Type I Action.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board started the Lead
Agency coordination process on December 19, 1990, classifying
this as a Tlrpe I action.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Harry and Janet Hohn - SC~ $1000-118-6-1
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PLANNING BOARD 12 JANUARY- 14, 1991
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board start
the Lead Agency coordination process on this Type I action.
This action is classified as a Type I action because the
property is located within a Critical Environmental Area.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Ward, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Southold Villas - This proposal is for both a
subdivision and site plan. The subdivision is for seventeen
affordable lots and the site plan is for sixteen condominium
units. The parcel is located on the west side of N.¥.S. Rte.
25 approximately 1,400 feet north of Ackerly Pond Lane,
Southold.
SCTM ~ 1000-70-1-6.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board rescind their
resolution of October 2, 1990, starting the lead agency
coordination process. A Negative Declaration was issued on
February 27, 1990 by the Town Board for the change of zone and
for the construction of the affordable homes and the townhouse
units.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Porter J. & Mary R. Goss and Michael L.
Laughlin- This lot line change is to subtract .66 of an acre
from a 5.47 acre parcel and to add it to a 1.16 acre parcel on
Fishers Island. SCTM $ 1000-2-1-15.1 & 16.
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Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make the following
motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, start
the lead agency coordination process on this Type I action. The
Board makes an initial determination of non-significance.
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham,
Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowskio
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski: Thomas A. Sargent - This minor subdivision
is for three lots on 26,983 square feet located on the east and
south side of a right,of-way to Fox Avenue in Fishers Island.
SCTM ~1000-6-6-7.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board,
acting under the State Environmental Quality Review Act, assume
lead agency, make a determination of non-significance, and grant
a Negative Declaration on this unlisted action.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham,
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Draft Environmental Impact Status:
Mr. Orlowski: Angel Shores - Board to review the revised
DEIS received on January 2, 1991, for completeness.
SCTM 91000-121-4-9.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to offer the following
resolution.
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BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board accept
the Draft Environmental Impact Statement dated December 199~, as
complete for the purpose of public and inter-agency review.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would also like to make anothler
motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board initiate a public
comment period of thirty (30) calendar days from the date of
this resolution. The public co~Lm.ent period will run until
February 13, 1991.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on
this motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards,
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to make another motion.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Board set Monday, February
4, 1991, at 7:45 p.m. for a public hearing on the Draft
Environmental Impact Statement dated December 1990.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
SITE PLANS
Site Plans - State Environmental Quality Review Act
Lead Agency Coordination:
Southold Villas - SCTM $1000-70-1-6 - Done Already.
SETTING OF NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Mr. Orlowski: Board to set Monday, February 4, 1991, at 7:30
p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, So~thold as the time
and place for the next regular Planning Board Meeting.
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Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Mr. Orlowski: Board to approve the November 13, 1990,
December 3, 1990 and December 17, 1990 minutes.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Latham
Mr. Orlowski, Mr. McDonald.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I would like to propose a motion we
accept the local law in relation to Accessory Building
Setbacks. This pertains to 100-33B of the Zoning Section of the
code and its relation to the setbacks around various size lots.
This has been sent back to us for a review and I would like to
make a motion that we endorse it as it is presently written.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. McDonald, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Mr. Orlowski: Being I have nothing further left on my agenda,
I see that Mr. Steifer is here and has requested some time to
talk with the Board on his subdivision.
Mr. Steifer: Mr. Chairman, Members of the Board, I sent a map
in for a review by the Board for a subdivision which I would
like to break up into two lots which is fourteen acres. I would
like to keep one lot as agricultural which is a horse fazm and
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the other lot which is a house, I would like to sell which would
abut ten acres. Now the way I have put it up there I don't know
if the Board would appreciate this type but I also got another
way which I can make a flag lot off of it and make the road come
off of Sound Avenue which I have in my hand if you would like to
do that?
Ms. Scopaz: Why don't you bring it up to the table.
Mr. Steifer: I would like to donate as a santuary the back
lots, which I would not need. All I am interested in, is the
ten acres for the farm because of the agricultural that is why
it is broken up the way it is. All the land to the south of the
house I can donate all the way up almost to the front of the
house to where the line is, as far as the sanctuary I have no
use for it. All I am interested in is the house and the barn
which I have, otherwise I won't need it.
Mro Ward: Our problem is the fact that this b~ a minor
subdivision originally was the fourth lot. Taking a fifth lot
requires a road.
Mr. Steifer: So it could be considered a major. But, both
lots go up to Sound Avenue which are both accessible. Right now
the Town and the Building Department made me put that road in to
access that house; saying not to travel on to the west side road
even though we improved that road. We put twelve thousand
dollars into it to improve it and now building permits were
issued on the back three properties off of that road.
Mr. McDonald: I'm new, so I'm more confused than most. You
owned this property in a larger form before and subdivided it?
Mr. Steifer: I subdivided it into four equal parts.
Mr. McDonald: And those lots were south of where your house is
now?
Mr. Steifer: Yes, south of my home.
Mr. McDonald: There was no road put in at that time for those
lots?
Mr. Steifer: There was a road and it was improved.
Mr. McDonald: Improved, how?
Mr. Steifer: We improved it. The Planning Board asked us to
improve it and we put twelve thousand dollars into it.
Mr. McDonald: Is it paved?
Mr. Steifer: It wasn't paved. It was stone blend.
PLANNING BOARD 17 JANUARY 14, 1991
Mr. McDonald: Now, this extra lot makes it a major subdivision.
Mr. Steifer: I understand that, but both would be leading off
Sound Avenue and right now the Building Department and the
Planning Board --.
Mr. Orlowski: Mark, this is the approved map.
Mr. McDonald: Oh, this is the old map. This was a long piece
of property wasn't it?
Mr. Steifer: Right.
Mr. McDonald: You improved the road all the way from Sound
Avenue down to the beginning of this last lot?
Mr. Steifer: We improved it yes.
Mr. McDonald: I am trying to think what you did for twelve
thousand dollars and that many feet.
Mr. Steifer: Which is also used by the people on the back on
the lake. They also share that road and, like I said, on the
other one I don't even travel the road because the Building
Department and the Board asked me to put in my own drive which I
did, which is on the east side of the property of my property,
now noted on the map. That is the drive which I wish to keep
for the house in the back; and the other one will have access
right on Sound Avenue, because the other building will be
probably about 200 feet off of Sound Avenue setback which will
be a small ranch. The property far in the back I will donate
it, if you want it, for a bird sanctuary or an animal sanctuary
because I won't use it. Like I said, according to the Town
line, I need the ten acres for agricultural.
Mr. Orlowski: Those lots on the original subdivision, do they
all have building permits?
Mr. Steifer: Yes.
Mr. McDonald: Are there houses on it?
Mr. Steifer: Nope. Nobody has built on them yet, but they
all have building permits.
Mr. McDonald: They have building permits?
Mr. Steifer: In other words, a building permit is available
for them.
Mr. McDonald: They don't actually have them?
Mr. Steifer: They are available if they were to request
them. Nobody is building on them now.
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Mr. Orlowski: You didn't bring anything from the Building
Department?
Mr. Steifer: No, but I can get a letter which I did speak to
them and they said they would give me a letter confirming the
fact that there are building permits available.
Mr. Orlowski: There is no access because the right of way is
in litigation right now?
Mr. Steifer: It is in litigation but this is the second map.
you'll see that that is a new one. That's not the one by
Dinek. The original one is by Dinek. This one was done out
of Garden City and Ridge and they came up with the same
findings. We paved that road even though it is in litigation.
Actually, all I am looking for, like I said, is to separate the
house from the farm.
Mr. Orlowski: The last parcel of ten acres that is going to
be left?
Mr. Steifer: That's going to be left and, like I said, I
would probably keep about five acres because I don't know if
going to the Town, if you need, if I sell the building lots off
of it can I put up fences? That is all I am interested in.
Mr. Orlowski: It has to be a minimum of ten acres before they
will even buy it.
Mr. Steifer: Oh, it has to be. I need at least one for my
house. As far as what the Town wants, they can use it as a
animal sanctuary because there, is a lot of animal and game in
there because I have none for it other than that. I won'~ use
it in the back because all my stables and corals are up front.
Mr. McDonald: What is the zone on this?
Mr. Orlowski: AC.
Mr. McDonald: This is over ten acres and if it is AC, it has to
be clustered according to the code.
Mr. Ortowski: We're not sure Mark.
Mr. McDonald: I have no idea what the zone is on it. It
doesn't make any difference because if it's R-40 or R-80 any of
the low density residentials, it is still the same.
Mr. Stiefer: I have no idea.
Mr. McDonald: There is a section of the Code that says if it is
over a certain size and you are in a certain zone, you have to
have it clustered.
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Mr. Stiefer: In other words, it all has to be in one area.
Mr. McDonald: The lots have to be down- sized and there has to
be open space provided so instead of having it all occupied by
lots you have to have the plots where the houses are going to go
plus an area designated as open space which is in joint
ownership or in an appropriate form of ownership.
Mr. Stiefer: In other words, the way I would have it set up,
it would not comply.
Mr. McDonald: I would refer it to the Town Attorney, but I
don't think so.
Mr. Stiefer: In other words, with the house up on the ---.
Mr. McDonald: It is not the location of the house, it is the
size of the loto
Mr. Stiefer: But the lot still would be ten acres plus, even
though it's not in the cluster.
Mr. McDonald: No, No, it says that lots that are ten acres or
more must be clustered.
Mr. Orlowski: What Mr. Stiefer is saying, that if he can
subdivide his house it would be a major subdivision and he would
covenant the rest of the property never to be subdivided in
perpetuity for as long as anybody lives.
Mr. Stiefer: That's right, all I'm interested in is the farm
up front.
Mr. McDonald: I guess you could take that as conservation
easement.
Mr. Orlowski: Yes.
Mr. Ward: Why does this have to be a separate lot then?
Mr. Stiefer: Because of the building of the house and this
would constitute where the pool is and would give them enough
area around the house. I want to put a small ranch on here.
other words in front of the barn.
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Mr. McDonald: I would like to take it under consideration, I've
got to think about this.
Mr. Orlowski: You know, I told you about that letter showing
us that those lots were buildable. Get that from the Building
Department and we will review it and get back to you.
Mr. Stiefer: O.K.. When would you like the letter? Next
week?
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Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Stiefer:
Whenever you can get it.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Orlowski: I have nothing left on my agenda. Does anyone
in the audience have any questions or comments?
Mr. Edwards: I would like to entertain a motion to adjourn this
meeting.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the
motion? All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ward, Mr. Edwards, Mr. McDonald,
Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? So ordered.
Being there was no more business to be brought before the Board
the meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
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