HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/04/1993PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
Mark S. McDonald
Kenneth L. Edwards
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P. O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
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October 4, 1993
Present were:
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
Bennett 0rlowski, Jr.
Mark McDonald
G. Ritchie Latham
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Robert G. Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer
Martha A. Jones, Secretary
Absent:
Kenneth Edwards
Mr. Ward: Good evening. I'd like to call the October 4, 1993 Southold
Town Planning Board meeting to order. The first order of business, the
setting of the next Planning Board meeting. Board to set Monday, October
25, 1993 at 7:30 p.m., Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, as the time
and place for the next regular Planning Board meeting. Is there a second?
Mr. Latham: I second that.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. 0rlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Mr. Ward: S.H. Friemann and Others -- This minor subdivision is for 3 lots
on 19.596 acres located on the north side of Main Road; 1658.7 feet west of
Cox's Lane in Cutch_ogue. The subject parcel is located in beth the
Agricultural Conservation (R-C) District and the General Business (B)
District. SCTM~ 1000-102-2-24. Is anybody here that would like to address
the Board?
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Richard Cron: Richard J. Cron from Cron & Cron for the petitioner Sanford
Friemann. I think the record ought to be corrected as far as this Board
and that is that the Board is treating this particular application as one
consisting of a three lot subdivision. I would refer the Board clearly to
the court's decision in the Article 78 proceeding that was here before
brought as well as the judgement that supports that decision. _The court is
clear in its decision, that what is in focus in this case is basically a
two lot subdivision on B Business property. There is no subdivision of the
17 acre ~-C parcel. Now, the Board is attempting to bring that in for the
purpose of obviously supporting a determination made by the Cutchogue Fire
District to the effect that a firewell ought to be placed on this property
at some time in the future in the event a building, or whatever, may be
constructed thereon. I submit to the Board that this is not part of a
minor subdivision. The Board does not have any authority or 3urisdiction
to require anything with respect to that particular parcel. What this
Board is dealing with, and solely dealing with is a 2 lot subdivision, on a
B Business zone; one of which lots is already improved with a str%lcture.
The court is likewise clear on this determination that no widening is
required of the existing road which has Section 280A approval under the
Town law.
For you to attempt to get the applicant through a covenant and restriction
to agree to that which the court says he does not have to do, places this
Board in a position of being held in contempt. Now, I have warned you
before, not only will I go for contempt but if we go and get criminal
contempt you'll hire your own attorneys and you will defend yourself
because the Town of Southol~ cannot ~nd will not defend you. That will
lead to d~mages and I assure you will see you in Federal Court under under
a !993 civil rights property action. Now, I believe the Town Attorney has
written to this Board a letter dealing with it's recommendation or it's
understanding of what the judgement of the court is. I trust that this
Board will follow the direction of the Town Attorney before it renders ~ny
decisions tonight.
Mr. Ward: Anybody else like to address the Board on this particular
parcel? Any comments from the Board? Mr. Latham?
Mr. Latham: I'd like to offer a resolution. Whereas, Sanford Friemann and
Henry Rienecker are the owners of the property .known and designated as
SCTM~ 1000-102-2-24, located on the north side of M~in Road; 1658.7 feet
west of Cox's Lane in Cutchogue; and
Whereas, this minor subdivision is for 3 lots on 19.596 acres (2 lots in
the General Business District and ] lot in the Agricultural Conservation
District); and
Whereas, a decision was rendered on December 13, 1990 by the Zoning Board
of Appeals on the matter of S.H. Friemann and Others, granting approval of
insufficient frontage (lot width) along the Main Road of proposed Lot ~3
and insufficient lot depth of proposed Lot ~2, and for approval of access
according to New York Town Mw, Section 280--A over a private right-of--way
subject to the following condition:
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That the access right-of--way be maintained in good condition to a minimum
width of 18 feet (without obstructions) for the entire length for
sufficient maneuverability by fire and emergency vehicles (pursuant to the
requirements of New York Town Law); and
Whereas, pursuant to a judgement entered on October 5, 1992 in the matter
of Friemann v. Planning Board, the Southold Town Planning Board was directed
to process the above application as a minor subdivision and to grant the
relief therein requested; and
Whereas, ~e Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself
lead agency and issued a Negative Declaration on April 22, ].993; and
Whereas, a final public hearing was closed on said subdivision application
at the Town Hall, Southold, New York on October 4, 1993; and
Whereas, all the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; and be it therefore
Resolved, that the Southold Town Planning Board approve and authorize the
Chairman to endorse the final survey dated April ]5, 1993.
Mr. Ward: One thing, before we take a second on this motion, I'd like to
offer a resolution to close the he~ring.
Mr. Orlowski: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Rich, on your resolution then is there a second?
Mr. Orlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. 0rlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Ward: Hillcrest Estates - Section 2 - This ma3or subdivision is [or 20
lots on 22.9 acres located in Orient. SCTM~ 1000-]3-2-8.5. Is there
anybody here tonight that would like to address the Board on this pro3ect?
If not, what's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to hold the hearing open for
the proposed subdivision of Hillcrest Estates, Secton 2 while the client
continues to pursue approval from the Suffolk County Department of
Health services.
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Mr. Ward: Is tlnere a second?
Mr. 0rlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowsk~, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Just an aside, is there any sign that this is being pursue
We've asked them to submit a letter by our next meeting to
Mr. Latham:
Ms. Spiro:
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OK, thank you.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF APPLICATION~
Fianl Determinations:
Mr. Ward: Sh3am~t Estates- Section 1 -- Section I of this major subdiv~
is for 10 lots on 17.5036 acres located on the southwest corner of Mair
Road (NYS 25) and Shipyard Lane ~n East Marion. The entire project,
Sections ', 2 & 3 is for 35 lots on 40.822 acres. SCTM~ 1000--35--8--5.3.
What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion that the Southold Town Planning Board
authorize the Chairman to endorse the final surveys dated August 11, l~ )3.
Conditional final approval was granted on June 8, !992. All condition~
have been fulfilled.
Mr. I~tham: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. 0rlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward:
Opposed? Motion carried.
Harbes Farm -- This proposal is for 4 lot line applications
Mr. Ward:
are being processed concurrently. Harbes Farm contains 5 single and
separate parcels. The proposed lot line changes are to reconfigure t!
existing 5 lots. Additional lots are not being created. SCTM~
1000--120--3--11.2, 1].3, 11.4, 1].5, 11.6.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I maple a motion that the Southold Town
Planning Board authorize the Chairman to endorse the final surveys dar,
May 21, 1993, together with the set of maps dated February 12, ].993 sh,
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each stage of the individual lot line changes. Conditional final approval
was granted on May 24, 1993. Ali. conditions of approval have been
fulfilled.
Mr. Latham: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Ail those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Sketch Determinations:
Mr. Ward: Peconic Homes - This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 45.9741
acres located on the south side of Sound Ave.; 1917 feet east of Farmveu
Rd. in Mattituck. SCTM~ 1000--121-3--7.l. I notice the applicant is here.
Would you like to address the Board?
Howard Young: We represent Peconic Homes and I am here to answer any
questions regarding the map and the Horton brothers are here if you have
any questions regarding their intentions.
Mr. Ward: OK, if there's nothing else, what's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, whereas a major subdivision application for
the Peconic Homes property has been before the Planning Board since !988
and has not proceeded due to the applicant's decision to not proceed in
response to the SEQRA Positive Declaration issued by the Planning Board on
June 7, 1989; ~nd
Whereas, the applicant has now applied for ~ minor subdivision to create
building lot with an existing house in order to separate the use from the
overall property which is the subject of the previously mentioned major
subdivision3and
~%ereas, the ?lannino- Board currently has before it two different
applications for the above mentioned parcel; one for a major subdivision,
and the other for a minor subdivision; and
W~aereas, the Board cannot proceed simultaneously with two different
applications for the same parcel, its review of the major subdivision will
be put on hold; and
Whereas, the intent of the minor subdivision application is to separate the
existing dwelling (shown as proposed Lot Number 2 on the minor subdivision
map dated July 30, 1993) from the total 45.97 acre parcel; and
Whereas, Lot Number 1 (the remaining 43.5784 acre parcel shown on the minor
subdivision map dated July 30, ]993), which currently contains a mobile
home and numerous greenhouses, shall not be improved with any additional
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dwelling units unless certain conditions are met; and, be it therefore
Resolved, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant sketch approVal on
the map dated July 30, 1993 subject to the following condition:
!. A Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions including the following
ter~%s must be recorded prior to any approval of the subdivision
Prior to the issuance of any building permit for any d~elting unit
on proposed Lot Number 1, such application shall be reviewed by the
Planning Board. The Planning Board shall determine whether the
additional impact warrants inclusion of the action within the June
7, 1989 Positive Declaration or requires any further environmental
review.
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Prior to the issuance of any building permit for any dwelling unit
on proposed I~t Number 1, such application shall be reviewed by the
Planning Board. The Planning Board shall determine what road
provements are necessary due to the impact of theadditional dwell-
in~ unit.
c. No park and playground fee is due until such time that a dwelling
is allowed on Lot %1.
Mr. Ward: Is t~ere a second?
Mr. 0rlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. Ail in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a further motion that the
Southotd Town Planning Board start the lead agency coordination process on
this Type 1 action . This action is classified as a Type 1 action since it
is located within a Special Groundwater Protection Area which is a
designated Critical Environmental Area.
Mr. Lath~m: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. Ail in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carrie~.
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SITE PLANS
Final Determinations:
Mr. Ward: East End Marine Supply -- This proposed site plan is to erect a
2,400 square foot storage building on a 67,124 square foot lot in the Light
Industrial District located at Corwin St. in Greenport. SCTM~ 1000-48-2--1
& 44.1. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. McDonald: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that whereas James
R. Lewis, Jr. is the owner of the property known and designated as East End
Marine Supply, located at Corwin St. and 9th Ave. in Greenport, SCTM~
1000-48--2~-1 & 44.1; and
Whereas, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was
submitted on March 15, 1993; and
Whereas, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself
lead agency, and issued a Negative Declaration on June 14, 1993; and
Whereas, a variance was granted by the Zoning Board of Appeals on February
23, 1993; and
Whereas, this site plan was certified by Thomas Fisher, Building Inspector,
on September 30, 1993; and
Whereas, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore
Resolved, that the Southold Town Planning Board approve and authorize the
Chairman to endorse the final survey dated June 2, 1993, subject to a one
year review from date of building permit.
Mr. Orlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. Ail in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Ward: Burt's Reliable -- This site plan is to replace above ground
storage tanks that were removed in 199! with above ground storage tanks of
the same capacity conforming with current Health Department standards.
SCTM~ 1000-60-1--6. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlwoski: I make a motion that whereas, Romanelli Realty, Inc. is the
owner of the property known an designated as Burt's Reliable, Inc., SCTM%
].000--60--1--6 located at 1515 Young's Ave., Southold; and
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Whereas, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was
submitted on July 21, 1993; and
Whereas, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself
lead agency, and issued a Negative Declaration on September 14, 1993; and
WHEREAS, this site plan was certified by Thomas Fisher, Building Inspector,
on September 29, 1993; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; and now therefore,
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board approve and authorize
the Chairman to endorse the final survey dated July 26, 1993, subject to a
one year review from date of building permit.
Mr. McDonald: Second.
Mr. Ward: Ail those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.(Chairman endorsed surveys)
Mr. Ward: Being no further business before us tonight, is there anybody
here that would like to address the Board?
Bill Goggins: located at 55000 Main St., Southold, NY. I represent DLD
Cycles. They have an application for a site plan approval before the
Board. I don't represent on this application but I do represent them on a
real estate transaction which involves the site plan approval. The trans-
action is subject to them getting a building permit and time is running
out. From the information I've received from DLI) Cycles they have not
submitted all the information needed for the application, however, we would
ask that the site plan be approved subject to any information that the
Board has not yet received. I understand they have not yet received the
Health Dept. approval yet and some other minor things. Would the Board be
willing to give site plan approval?
Mr. McDonald: Who do you represent? I'm confused.
Mr. Goggins: DLD Cycles is the applicant.
Mr. McDonald: Who do you represent?
Mr. Goggins: DLD Cycles.
Mr. McDonald: Now I understand. You said something that made me %hint you
weren't representing them.
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Mr. Goggins: I stated I represent DLD Cycles, not on this application, I
represent them on the underlying real estate transaction. They are
purchasing property for which the site plan approval is being asked for.
The real estate contract is contingent upon them-receiving a building
permit within a certain amount of time. In order to get the building
permit, they have to get the site plan approval. What I'm asking the Board
is to speed up the process to give them site plan approval tonight, subject
to any information that they have not yet submitted to the Board. ~%e most
important one being the Health Dept. approval. And I was wondering if the
Board would consider giving the approval tonight?
Mr. Ward: Bob, could you just 9ive us a rundown from your point of view,
as to what and if anything is missing at this point?
Mr. Kassner: Yes. As I thiD3z I discussed with Mr. Goggins this afternoon,
some of the things we're missing of course, the major point as he pointed
out, is the Health Dept. approval. We're also missing a copy of the curb
cut approval from the County. We're also missing a firewell notification
from the Southold Fire Dept. We're also missing certification because we
can't send it to the Building Dept. for certification until %ae have Health
Dept. approval. We're also missing a signed sketch which is a minor point;
and we're also missing a report from the water contract with the Greenport
Water Co.
Mr. Goggins: It's my understanding, at least with respect to Wae water,
that that's not within the Greenport Water Authority District. I believe
that ends at Tuckers Lane.
Mr. Kassner: The site plan indicates that the Greenport ~ater main is in
front of the house.
Mr. Goggins: Does it?
Mr. Kassner: Yes.
Mr. McDonald: The district goes all the w~y to Mill Lane, Peconic.
Mr. Kassner: As a matter of fact, I coordinated with the Greenport Water
Co., and they sent me a letter saying, that a contract would have to be made
with the Greenport Water Authority.
Mr. Goggins: OK. I do have the 239K approval I could give you now. I'll
give it to Bob. Again, I'm not really familiar with the application, but I
am familiar with the transaction and I was asked by DLD Cycles if I could,
on their behalf, ask for the Planning Board to give them the approval
subject to the conditions...submitting the further items that are missing.
Mr. Ward: Did we get any building elevations at this point, Bob?
Mr. Kassner: Yes we have, but we haven't reviewed them yet.
Mr. McDonald: How long have we had them?
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Mr. ~assner: I think Mr. Defriest brought them in about 3 or 4 days ago
slnc~ our last meeting. I guess the major point, and I don't want to speak
for the Board, is that we don't have Health and we don't have curb cut
approval. These are the two major items, plus we don't have certification
fromkthe Building Department. So we don't have Health and we don't have
the ~reenport water contract and we don't have curb cut and we don't have
the rirewell approval.
Mr. Ward: What's the pleasure of the Board at this point?
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~cDonald: I'm not inclined.
Prtowski: I don't see how you can.
Lath~m: No.
4~rd: I think that our condition here is that there are just too many
outstanding. We haven't even seen building elevations -- I mean the
we may have gotten them into Bob's office a couple of days ago. We
~inly have some concerns about that in terms of what it looks like on
the North Road and to push something through that we haven't really seen
and reviewed, we wouldn't feel comfortable doing.
Mr. Goggins: Well, that's understandable. When is the next meeting?
Mr. Ward: Well, we just set October 25.
Mr. Goggins: Is there anything else happening before then, where the Board
is getting together?
Mr. McDonald: What's your deadline? Is there ~ fixed date?
Mr. Gogging: Well, the date actually ends October 8, but I .believe I can
get a two week extension of it, possibly a four week.
Mr. Ward: Well, you wouldn't be the first one that we've made a special
meeting for if things can be in order. If in fact, you c~n get everything
in to Bob and we can do the proper notice, we meet besides the regular
meeting nights like this, we do meet often enough that we could hold a
special meeting if that would'help. So I leave that open for you but we
certainly have to do our reviews too.
Mr. Goggins: I understand that and I appreciate the help that the Board
can give us. I really don't understand what's going on with the firewells
and I don't think they understand either. I know there's some kind of
thing going on in Town...
Mr. McDonald: We'll send it over for them for their review. We make the
dec~sion, but we will ask them for their recoranendat'ion.
Mr. Go§gins: And that would be the Southold Fire Dept?
Mr. McDonald: Yes. This would be more a matter for ~ hydrant really than a
well, right, if it ~as requested.
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~oggins: The only problem I forsee is the Health Dept. approval.
'ye had it since early July and I don't know whats holding...
~cDonald: Since early July, you're kidding me?
~ard: Something sounds wrong.
4cDonald: What's wrong?
Mr. ~glns: We don't know.
Mr. ~cDonald: How did your w~ter test come out?
Vict~rLessard: There's no %~ter test been made.
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~oggins: Mr. Lessard has been helping D&D Cycles, Mr. Defriest and Mr.
)w~ki, and giving them a hand. Maybe he can address the Board as to
's going on...
4cDonald: They're probably looking for the Greenport water on this...
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Lessard: I want to clarify my position so we can stop ~alking on eggs
hd here. Officially, I've got a contract with the Town for tbmee years
consultant. Now, I have sat in with Dick and Benny on these
~lative meetings. This site plan came along, which looked like a very
Le thing at the time, and I thought well, this is a good chance to look
he other side. We've always been sitting on your side, I ~anted to see
things look like on this side of the fence. I want to see what causes
[enecks, what causes the holdups, the fast track thing that ~.~ spent so
much time and money sending in (inaudible) has no rails at all once it gets
to t~eHealth IX~pt.
Mr. ~assner: I know that well.
Mr. LeSsard: The number that's been assigned to this case, which has been
on file in the He~!~h Dept. since the end of July, has three numbers on it
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hinth building this year. Now convinceme, because I'm gnllible, that
~Pdycan sit in an office for better t]lan nine m~nths and not get to
thing yet? Of course, they always have an argument about the Health
. First off, I'm not working for this gentleman, I'm only trying to
him out. It's the only way I can find out what's wrong on this side
he fence. We have arguments about the Health Dept. You have your
LOn, I have myversion. I will give you myversion again, hopefully.
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If you look under 100--254F, something to the effect that when the Planning
Board feels that they can go ahead with this site plan, they're to notify
the applicant about the 239K, in writing, that's technical. It also says
that they will notify the Suffolk County Planning Con~nission, the fire
department on wells, and the 239K from the County. It does not say
anything about the Health Dept. Leave that alone for a minute. I donlt
know what the Planning Commission said. ~]e firewells you're never going
to get an answer on because the Councilman Mr. Lizewski has created a riot
in this town, putting his nose in where it doesn't belong...and that's my
opinion. Southold advocates that everybody...on firewells the taxpayer
should pay for everything except possibly a major subdivision. You're not
going to get any action there, but the kid is going to pay for it. The kid
is going to be penalized because these people took lots down the road and
did not put anything down in writing until the smoke clears.
Now I hear tonight something about Greenport water. I don't ~know how you
found out, but I didn't hear anything about it. The Health Dept. still has
to submit the septic system. OK?...the devils advocate. The building
contains two bathrooms o- his and. hers --and requires a sink in each one and
a water closet in each one. If this ~ly decides that he wants to have his
drinking water brought in, Greenport can't tell you not to put a well in,
the Health Dept. can't tell you not to put a well in, unless you're
dri~in~ it. So, the only thing the Health Dept. can do - if this is what
you'~e ~elling me, we're inside (the last I knew) was Tuckers Lane - maybe
there is a pipe running down 48. There's a hell of a big well that they
sneaked in in Greenport on the other side of the nursery, it could be. All
I'm isaying is that what the kids are lacking now is a letter from the fire
department they're never going to get. You have the 239K. I don't know
wha~ the Planning Commission said, but the code says under site
plans...let's talk certification, we missed that.
Certification is also in there under 254, I believe and that is strictly from
the!Building Dept. to say that what they want to do there is permitted in
tha~ zone, as far as the zone is concerned. That's it. Under 100-281 it
says the Building Inspector will not issue a permit until you get Health
Dept. approval. Why is it there? ~ny isn't it in the site plan? It's very
simple. You people meet once a month, or twice a month. The Building Dept.
is there five days a week. There's no time line in the Building Dept. We
have now a simple application that's almost three months old. You know
what we said at the legislative meeting. It's up to you guys. Hopefully we
caniget the ~uy off his horse there in the Health...I called the head horse
in ~he Healt~Dept. You know what he told me? He didn't tell me anything.
He had the secretary tell me he ~as on special ass~_c[nment. I called him the day
before -- they're in a meeting. I called him the day before. He's on the
telephone but he"ll get back to you. He finally talked tome. His bead
boss, the big guy in Hauppauge, says don't take anything out of turn. He
had it seven weeks, and I called him up and said ~hat happened? Oh, we
mailed it today to the engineer. Not there, ~o the engineer. And he had a
couple of things he wanted to correct from the engineer. You know what it
was? An otd drain in the floor in case you spilled oil or something.
These kids have been in business what, five, eight, ten years. No Health
Dept., nodrain in the floor. What's wrong with marking another site plan
as a condition? ~ney send it back three weeks ago, you can't take it out
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of turn. What's out of turn. That's what you're up against. And by the
way I'd like to have that guy's name and number on that fast bract. I
think I'll pullthe wheels off this freight train before I...(everyone
laughing).
Mr. Ward: Well, what we will do, as I said, if you can put everything
together in a timely fashion, we'll see about scheduling special if we have
to. If you can get it in before the next meeting.
Mr. Lessard: The big trick right now is the sale of the property and God
knows what we're going to do with the Health Dept.(everyone talking)
Mr. Ward: We have a worksession following the meeting tonight. If anybody
would like to address the Board before we do that, you're also welcome to
address us at the end of that.
John Romanelli: Just one quick question. I represent Burt's Reliable,
Romanelli Realty. I just want to get one thing clear. Can I apply for my
buildin§ permit tomorrow?
Mr. Ward: If you have a signed map.
Mr. Romanelli: You've said alot and this is all new to me, so I really
don't know. Where do I stand?
Mr. McDonald: The answer is yes.
Mr. Kassner: If you pick up the map tomorrow you can take it right over to
the Building Dept.
Mr. Romanelli: That's ~nat 1%ranted to hear.
Mr. McDonald: I make a motion to close this meeting.
Mr. Latham: I second that.
Mr. Ward: All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. McDonald, Mr. Latham, Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward.
Mr.: Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meetin§
adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
Respect f~'ally submitted.
Martha ~. ~J6i~e~~¥~ AND FILED BY
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