HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-11/13/1995PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
George Ritchie Latham, Jr.
Bennett Odowski, Jr.
Mark S. McDonald
Kenneth L. Edwards
Town Hall, 53099 Main Roac~
P. O. Box 1179
Southold, New ~ork 11971
Fax (516) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINUTES
November 13, 1995
Present were:
Absent:
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
Bennett Orlowski, Jr.
G. Ritchie Latham
Kenneth Edwards
William Cremers
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Robert G. Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer
Martha Jones, Secretary
Mr. Ward: Good evening. I'd like to call the November 13, 1995 Southold Town
Planning Board meeting to order. The first order of business ~s the setting of the
next Planning Board meeting. Board to set Monday, December 11, 1995 at 7:30
p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Rd., Southold, as the time and place for the
next regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Orlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
Mr. Ward: 7:30 p.m.- Nico Realty- This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 4.445
acres located on Bay Ave. in Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-97-3-11.2, 4, 5, 6 & 7. Is
the applicant here that would like to address the Board, or an agent for the
applicant?
Edward Reale: Good evening members of the Board. I'm Edward Reale, I'm an
attorney for Nico Realty. We have a 2 lot subdivision approved by the Health
Department. If there is no objection from the community, we'd like to ask the
Board to approve the subdivision. If any members of the Board have any questions
about this application?
Mr. Ward: Anybody else present that would like to address the Board on this
particular application? If not, any comments from the Board? If not, all is in order
to close the hearing.
Mr. Latham: I move that.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Ward: Moved and seconded. All in favor to close the hearing?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that WHEREAS, Nico Realty Corp. is
the owner of the property known and designated as SCTM# 1000-97-3-11.2,
located at Skunk Lane in Cutchogue; and
WHEREAS, this minor subdivision, to be known as Nico Realty Corp. is for 2 lots on
4.445 acres; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State Environmental
Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead agency and issued a
Negative Declaration on January 9, 1995; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was closed on said subdivision application at the
Town Hall, Southold, New York on November 13, 1995; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore
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RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final approval
on the surveys dated May 10, 1995 and authorize the Chairman to endorse the final
surveys subject to fulfillment of the following conditions. All conditions must be met
within six (6) months of the date of this resolution.
1. A Park and Playground fee in the amount of $4,000.00.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF
APPLICATIONS
Final Extensions:
Mr. Ward: Frederick and Bernardine Bauser - This lot line change is to merge a
24,720 square foot parcel designated as Park and Playground for the subdivision of
Peconic Bay Cove, with an adjacent 51,150 square foot parcel located in Peconic.
The park and playground designation is to be removed and replaced with a Scenic
Easement designation. SCTM# 1000-86-4-1.7 & 1.9. What's the pleasure of the
Board?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I move that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a
second ninety (90) day extension of conditional final approval. Conditional final
approval was granted on February 6, 1995. The second ninety day extension will
expire on February 6, 1996 unless all conditions have been fulfilled.
Mr. Latham: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
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Mr. Ward: J;~J3r~L~&L~O~J~ - This minor subdivision is for 3 lots on 6.212
acres located on the north side of Main Rd.; 1332.92 feet east of Elijah's Lane in
Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-108-3-9. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Latham: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer this resolution. Be it resolved that the
Southold Town Planning Board grant a second ninety (90) day extension of
conditional final approval. Conditional final approval was granted on February 6,
1995. The extension will expire on February 6, 1996 unless all conditions of
approval have been fulfilled.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Setting of Final Hearings:
Mr. Ward: Barbara Dow- This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on 4.99 acres
located approximately 1,450 feet north of Main Rd. on a r-o-w, and 2,600 feet west
of Young's Rd. in Orient. SCTM# 1000-17-2-6. This would be December 11 if we
do it. What's the pleasure of the Board? '
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, rd like to make the following motion. Be it resolved to
override the August 8, 1994 Suffolk County Planning Commission report for the
following reason:
On March 1, 1995 the Zoning Board of Appeals granted a variance under New York
Town Law, Section 280-A, for approval of access to the subject premises.
Be it resolved, that the Southold Town Planning Board set Monday, December
11,1995 at 7:30 p.m. for a final public hearing on the maps dated August 14,
1995.
Mr. Orlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
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Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Sketch Determinations:
Mr. Ward: Estate of G. Sanders Nowell - This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on
18.165 acres located on Main Road in East Marion. SCTM# 1000-31-2-32.1.
What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Chairman, rd like to make a motion that the Southold Town
Planning Board start the lead agency coordination process on this unlisted action.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Ward: Motion carried, rd like to make note that rm abstaining from voting on
this because these folks are clients of my office. What's the further pleasure of the
Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I'd like to make a further motion that the Southold Town Planning
Board grant conditional sketch approval on the maps dated October 5, 1995, with
the following conditions:
1. This minor subdivision ~s designed as a cluster subdivision in accordance
with Section 278 of New York State Town Law. When lot number 2 (the
large lot) is subdivided, the yield shall be determined after first subtracting
7,258 square feet from the overall area since said land represents the
clustered open space for lot num Der I (the small lot) of this subdivision.
The above mentioned statement shall be noted on the final map and shall
be contained in a Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions.
2. There shall be no further subdivision of lot number I in perpetuity.
3. Pre-certificates of Occupancy will be required to certify the pre-existence
of both houses on lot 1.
4. The sketch plans have ben referred to the Suffolk County Planning
Commission for review. You will be notified upon receipt of the
Commission's report. The Planning Board may require covenants and
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restrictions upon the review of the report and review of the final maps.
You will be notified if covenants and restrictions are required.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Ward: Note my abstention.
Donna Iglesias-Wexler: What are covenants and restrictions?
Mr. Ward: That would be something that would be possibly imposed on the
property, with your approval, for condition of approval.
Ms. Iglesias-Wexler: By adding that to the piece of property just in case
something's sold, is that what it's saying? Would it be something that we would
have to remove a house or you'd have to remove an existing...
Mr. Ward: No, generally...at this point we'd have to see what's going to come back
from the Suffolk County Planning Commission. You're talking about a cluster
subdivision here so the covenants would normally be something running with the
other parcel. You're carving out some property now that's being charged to the
other piece of property. That's normally where a covenant would...
Ms. Iglesias-Wexler: Could I just ask one more question? If there was a big
problem, would I be able to revert to the original map where it showed that one
house was on it's own piece of property?
Mr. Kassner: The subdivision ~s being processed under the understanding that
there are two pre"existing houses on lot number 1, and you were going to get a
pre-CO attesting to that. Now, if you can do that then there should be no problem.
As you know, the two houses require 40,000 square feet apiece. Lot number ] is
a little less than that, so that lesser amount will be subtracted from the larger lot,
when and if it's subdivided. Otherwise, there's no problem.
Ms. Iglesias-Wexler: OK, thank you.
Sketch Extensions: William Baxter - This minor subdivision is for 4 lots on 2.78
acres located on the northeast side of Griffing St. and the southeast side of School
House Rd. in Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-102-5-9.3. What's the pleasure of the
Board?
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Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make the following resolution. Be it resolved
that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a six month extension of sketch
approval from November 16, 1995 to May 16, 1996.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Bond Determinations:
Mr. Ward: Eliiah's Lane Estates- Sections 2 & 3 - This proposed major
subdivision is for a total of 27 lots on 38.56 acres. Nineteen lots are proposed in
Section 2, and eight lots are proposed in Section 3. SCTM# 1000-108-4-7.1.
What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I move to adopt the bond estimate dated October 25,
1995 and to recommend same to the Town Board. The bond estimate is in the
amount of $248,675.00.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
SITE PLANS
Request for Site Plan:
Mr. Ward: Frank's Marina (a.k.a. Broadwater's Cove Marina)- This site plan is
for a 2.7 acre marina located on Bay Ave. in Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-104-8-2.5.
What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I just have a question. The applicant is here, I didn't realize it was
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Frank. Everybody knows Frank.
Frank Zito: What would you like to know?
Mr. Orlowski: You bought the Broadwater's Cove Marina?
Mr. Zito: I bought Broadwater's Cove, yes.
Mr. Orlowski: So, it's not the house next door?
Mr. Kassner: No, there's a residence on the marina property.
Mr. Zito: Right.
Mr. Zito: And as far as I know, it's all one piece of property.
Mr. Kassner: That's absolutely correct.
Mr. Zito: Right. I bought it knowing that it was zoned Marine I and...
Mr. Orlowski: Do you live in the house?
Mr. Zito: Yes, I do. I brought a site plan over with me...
Mr. Orlowski: Wasn't there a site plan on that years ago?
Mr. Zito: Yes, here it is. The latest one I have is 1983. And I just put in where I'm
going to store boats and...
Mr. Orlowski: I think we did a site plan on this, didn't we?
Mr. Kassner: I couldn't find anything in the file, but the neighbor across the street
had a problem and, what happened here is that for the first time there was a
stockade fence put along Bay Ave. here and the vegetation was taken out so
obviously you can see...
Mr. Zito: No, the fence was there for years.
Mr. Kassner: There's a new one now.
Mr. Zito: Yeah, because the old one was rotten.
Mr. Kassner: I understand that, but the vegetation in front of it was removed to put
the fence in. So this guy now can see all the shrouds, but the point is that there
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are more boats that your sign is advertising, upland storage of boats, which is a
little more intensive use of the site than previously.
Mr. Zito: Well, there was never upland storage there before I moved in.
Mr. Kassner: Correct. That's right. So, now there is, where before there wasn't.
Mr. Zito: Oh, OK, I see what you're saying.
Mr. Kassner: So, all we're requesting is a site plan. And the Board may waive it
when you come in with it.
Mr. Orlowski: There is a site plan on this.
Mr. Kassner: I didn't see it.
Mr. Orlowski: Dick, do you remember it?
Mr. Ward: I can't remember.
Mr. Zito: Well, I was involved in the erosion program and everything else, so I must
have put a site plan in for that, too.
Mr. Kassner: We do have a plan that's never been approveo, showing a number of
docks and so forth, but it was never an approved plan.
Mr. Zito: You know what the biggest problem was, that was still on the books when
I was buying the property, was that it was still zoned non-conforming.
Mr. Kassner: It's conforming now. You had a Zoning Board of Appeals variance,
but when that was re-zoned to Marine I, it obviates the variance. The only thing
here is that for the first time there are more boats being stored upland and it's a
little intensification of the site and the Board wants to determine whether there's
sufficient parking and so forth.
Mr. Zito: OK, sure, rm willing to help you guys out, figure everything out if you
want.
Mr. Ward: Well, we have a resolution on tonight as to bring you in for a site plan.
Mr. Zito: OK, good. Does this help you...do you have this Bob?
Mr. Kassner: No I don't.
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Mr. Ward: Is this an extra one?
Mr. Zito: Yeah, this is an ex[ra one.
Mr. Orlowski:
Mr. Kassner:
You can have this one.
We have one more detailed than that though.
Yeah, we do. We're showing all your finger docks and so forth.
Mr. Zito: This is the only one I have...
Mr. Ward: Why don't you keep this one.
Mr. Zito: I have more of these, I made copies because I was going for permits to
fix up this ramp here.
Mr. Ward: Alright, this is the one that has Health on it.
Mr. Zito: Yeah, it has a Health stamp on it and everything else.
Mr. Ward: This is June 21, 1983.
Mr. Kassner: Very good. It shouldn't be a big deal.
Mr. Zito: You can keep this one. I have copies at home.
Mr. Kassner: I appreciate it. Thanks.
Mr. Ward: What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Orlowski: I make a motion that WHEREAS, the Planning Board is the body
charged by law with requiring, reviewing, and approving site plans; and
WHEREAS, Article XXV, Section 250 of the Southold Town Zoning Code grants the
Planning Board the authority to require site plan approval when there is any change
of use or intensity of use which will affect the characteristics of the site plan in
terms of parking, access, drainage, open space or utilities; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board does not have an approved site plan for this marina;
and
WHEREAS, Frank's Marina, (Broadwater's Cove Marina) has initiated the upland
storage of boats; and
WHEREAS, there has been recent clearing of vegetation on the site;and
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WHEREAS, this change in use and intensity of use represents a change in the nature
of the previous use, because the upland storage of boats has increased traffic and
created additional need for parking; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that the upland
storage of boats has resulted in a change in the nature and intensity of use which
will affect the characteristics of the site in terms of parking, access, drainage and
lighting; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that these changes trigger the need for a site plan
review to consider the parking, traffic and other impacts which will be caused by the
upland storage of boats.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Ward: Motion seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Ward: The next order of business is the approval of the Planning Board
minutes. Board to approve the October 2, 1995 minutes.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr.-Ward: Moved and seconded. All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried. And also the October 23, 1995 minutes.
Mr. Latham: Move it.
Mr. Orlowski: Second.
Mr. Ward: Moved and seconded. All in favor?
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Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried. Being no further business before this evening,
would any member of the Board like to have anything on the record?
Mr. Orlowski: Motion to adjourn.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Ward: All in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers, Mr. Ward.
Mr. Ward: Opposed? Motion carried.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting adjourned
at 7:45 p.m.
Richard G. Ward, Chairman
Respectfully submitted,
Martha A. Jones
Secretary