HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-10/05/1998PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR.
Chairman
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
GEORGE RITCYiIE LATHAM, JR.
RICI-IARI) G. WARD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINUTES
October 5, 1998
Present were:
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Richard G. Ward
G. Ritchie Latham
Kenneth Edwards
William Cremers
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Robert G. Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer
Martha Jones, Secretary
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening. I'd like to call this meeting to order. The first
order of business, Board to set Monday, October 26, 1998 at 7:30 p.m. at
Southold Town Hall, Main Rd., Southold, as the time and place for the next
regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Alt those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
pUBLIC HEARINGS
Mr. Orlowski: 7:30 p,m. Anna T. Drosl(osld: This lot line change is to
subtract 0.4789 of an acre from a 22L1428 acre parcel and add it to a 0.4136
acre parcel; and to subtract 0.4053 of an acre from a 22.1428 acre parcel
and add it to a 0.4048 acre parcel. SCTM# I000-18-4-7. At this time I'll ask if
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there are any comments on this lot line change?
Mary Lou Folts: Mr. Chairman and members of the Planning Board, I'm Mary
Lou Folts from Larl< & Folts, attorneys for the applicants for this DrosKoski's
proposed lot line change. The subject property is as you said, 22.1428 acres
owned by Anna Droskoski, located on the north side of Main Road in Orient,
about 2 miles west of the Orient Point ferry and on the westerly side of
Browns Hill Road.
I've got the affidavit of posting and mailing that I know your secretary would
like at this time. And I've also got a map, if I could just to bring to you which
I've color coded to help point things out to you. A large map of the map
that you already have in front of you and the outline Mrs. Droskoski's
property in yellow and highlighted in pink, the properties that are owned by
her son Stanley and his wife Patricia and her daughter Patricia and her
husband Antone. I've also hatchmarked in green the proposed areas that
Mrs. Anna Droskoski wants to give to her children.
As you've said, she wishes to give the .4789 acre portion to her son Stanley
and his wife Patricia, and .4053 acre portion to her daughter Patricia and her
husband Antone Sepenoski. The proposed lot line would reduce her acreage
from 22.1428 acres, to 21.2586 acres, being a total reduction of .8842 which
is shown in the hatchmarked green area.
The lot line change would increase the property of Stanley and Patricia
Droskosl<i from .4136 acres to .8925 acres and increase the property of
Antone and Patricia Sepenoski from .4048 acres to .8101 acres. As you can
see, this lot line change isn't going to increase the density of the area and
it's not going to create any new building lots in the area. tt'sjust necessary
to facilitate this gift that a mother wants to make to her son and her
daughter so that her children can increase the size of their residence parcels
for their own personal usage - if you would, have a little more of a back yard.
The lot line change will have no adverse effect on the environment. There's
no change in the use of the properties as they are now, and there's no new
water supply or sewage systems being planned for any of the land involved.
As you pointed out, t think in your Negative Declaration, the two non-
conforming lots of Mrs. Droskoski's children will just increase in size and be a
little bit less non-conforming.
I previously submitted to the Planning Board for their review and approval a
proposed Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions which confirms that no
future lot lines can be changed without your authorization and that the
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property being transferred to Anna Droskoski's son and daughter will merge
with their other properties. And those properties also will not be subdivided
because of the minimum lot area requirements of the zoning ordinance. I've
also submitted in the package in the application, copies of the proposed
deeds from Anna Droskoski to her son and her daughter and their spouses,
and each of those deeds contain an acknowledgment that the property
being conveyed will be added to and merged with their properties again
creating no new lots.
Therefore, I respectfully request that the Planning Board grant this lot line
change to the Droskoski family and I believe Anna Droskoski's son Stanley
who is with me tonight would like to speak just briefly on this project and ask
for your approval, and we'll be glad to answer any questions that you may
have.
Stanley Droskoski, Jr.: Good evening ladies and gentlemen, I'm Stanley
Droskoski, Jr., the person who is going to be receiving the additional
property to my present property and I'm speaking on behalf of my sister
Patricia also, she's not here this evening. We've lived on the farm there for,
I'm 65 years old and we've owned the farm longer than 65 years. I've been
born and raised there and I don't know what the future will bring but we just
feel that we want a little cushion of back yard because we don't know what
the future will bring. Presently it's there, I enjoy the property as it is. The
property that we're going to be annexing to ours will be continued to be
farmed, even presently. But I don't need more land now, but I don't know
what the future will bring, and whatever the future does bring I want to
make sure, with the Board's approval, that I have property behind me so
that someone isn't going to be sitting in my back yard. If I can answer any
questions, I'd be happy to do so.
Mr. Oriowski: Not at this time. Any other comments or questions on this lot
line change. Hearing none, any questions from the Board? Mr. Ward?
Mr. Ward: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham?
Mr. Latham: No.
Mr. Orlowsld: Mr. Cremers?
Mr. Cremers: No.
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Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards?
Mr. Edwards: None.
Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz?
Ms. Scopaz: No.
Mr. Orlowski: If there are no further questions I'll entertain a motion to close
the hearing.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. Does the Board have any pleasure?
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, Anna T. Droskoski, Antone Sepenoski and Stanley Droskoski are the
owners of the proper~y known and designated as SCTM# I000-18-4-?, 18-4-
6 and 18-4-5, located on Rt. 25 in Orient; and
WHEREAS, this proposed lot line change is to subtract 0.4789 of an acre
from a 22.1428 acre parcel and add it to a 0.4136 acre parcel; and to
subtract 0.4053 of an acre from a 22.1428 acre parcel and add it to a 0.4048
acre parcel; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead
agency and issued a Negative Declaration on September 14, 1998; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was closed on said subdivision application at
the Town Hall, Southold, New York on October 5, 1998; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58,
Notice of Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has
complied with the notification provisions; and
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WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
approval on the surveys dated December 4, 1996, and authorize the
Chairman to endorse the final surveys subject to fulfillment of the following
condition. All conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of
this resolution:
The merger of 20,860 square feet from a 22.1428 acre parcel
SCTM# I000-18-4-7 with the 18,018 square foot parcel SCTM#
1000-18-4-5; and 17,655 square feet from the same 22.1428
acre parcel SCTM# 1000-18-4-7 with the 17,632 square foot
parcel SCTM# 1000-18-4-6.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Oriowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ortowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:35 p.m. Wankel - Moran - This lot tine change is to subtract
23,600 square feet from a 63,601 square foot parcel, and add it to a 75,165
square foot parcel. SCTM# 1000-113-10-14.1 & 15. I'll ask if there are any
comments on this lot line change?
Aurelius J. Sclafani: I'm at 50 Hampton St., Sawille, NY, and i'm representing
the two contiguous lot owners, Mr. Wankel and Mr. Moran. First I would
hand up the affidavit of posting and of mailing. The one change that t would
note for your attention, when this application was submitted it was
submitted using the Suffolk County Tax Map designations and it so indicated
on all papers including Iaut not limited to the survey. Well, went out to
Riverhead to be certain I'd catch all the con:~guous land owners currently,
and looking at that Tax service they changed the number of the lots slightly.
What used to be 14.1, oecomes t4.2 and what was 15, becomes 15.1. I've
noted that in the papers that I've submitted. But it aoes not change at all
any of the presentation, I'm just bringing that to your attention at this point.
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The two parties in question here, owners of these contiguous parcels, in the
one hand the Wankel property will maintain and fully comply with all the
requirements for a building lot of 40,000 square feet. The Moran lot will be
substantially increased but an ocular inspection of the premises would
indicate to you that there's a LILCO line that run the extent of the Moran
property, which makes it a very undesirable lot that if you're going to build
that close to the LILCO property which has this LILCO line. So to distance that
lot as far as you could to the LILCO lines is the primary reason this is being
done. Other than that, I have nothing else to add to the presentations not
in the papers and in the survey.
Mr. Ward: There was a question raised regarding the ownership of the road
to be abandoned. Do you have proof that it is abandoned?
Mr. Sclafani: Yes, sir. I have here - I think I submitted - I know I submitted
with my papers a copy, and I have the original here, that was recorded in the
County Clerk's office - I'll be glad to submit the original if necessary.
Mr. Orlowski: Had anybody talked to the Highway Superintendent before
they...
Mr. Sclafani: I was not privy to that application. It was submitted by another
counsel who obtained this abandonment.
Mr. Orlowski: OK. Are there any other comments on this?
Laury Wells: My name is Laury Wells and my property is contiguous with the
supposed abandoned Penn Ave. and I did speak with Ray Jacobs and he
informed me that tohis knowledge he did not abandon Penn Ave. I don't
have a problem with :the back half of Penn Ave. being sold, but as to the
homeowner to the northern part of that, is there notification that goes out
when a road is abandoned next to homeowners to give them an option?
Because I have been maintaining Penn Ave. for eight years that I've lived
there, and if it's for sale...
Mr. Orlowski: Well, this is filed October 4, 1995. You knew nothing about it?
We've been in contact with the Highway Superintendent and he knows
nothing about it either.
Ms. Wells: Correct. That's why I'm here to find out what happens next?
Mr. Orlowski: This Board will be holding this hearing open because there's a
bit of confusion here right now, in regards to the abandonment of that
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road.
Ms. Wells: OK, so then what does that mean to me as a homeowner,
contiguous to that non-abandoned road - or abandoned road?
Mr. Orlowski: Right now I have no idea until I talk with the Highway
Superintendent and the Town Attorney to see what this is all about.
Ms. Wells: So in other words this is going to be re-scheduled?
Mr. Orlowski: It will be up on the next agenda. We're going to leave the
hearing open until October 26.
Ms. Wells: October 26? OK.
Bruce Campbell: I'm Bruce Campbell, I live behind this property also. I didn't
know how many you were so I only made four copies of this. I live at 620
Meday Ave. in Mattituck, right behind the lots that you're talking about here.
I wanted to object to the lot tine change because it opens the door for Mr.
Moran and Mr. Wankel...t'm pretty sure they plan to develop that area and
they want to get as many houses in there as possible.
So right now, if you look on the first one, that's what it was before they got
that Penn Ave. abandoned, and they had two pieces of property and they
could put one house on one and one house on the other, which is fine,
because there's one acre zoning. And you look on the second map, it shows
it after they somehow got the abandonment and there was, like Mrs. Wells
said, no notification of neighbors, no Highway Department survey or
approval.
If you go to the next letter in there, it shows a common procedure for
abandonment of a road, notifying everyone abutting that road, and then
declaring it abandoned and absorbing the property and taking on the tax
burden of that property. That's normal. I contacted the County to find out
what was normal and that's what they sent me.
Then if you look on the next letter, this is the actual abandonment, a
photocopy of it, and it was signed by the Tax Assessor Scott Russell. t don't
know if that's normal or not, I'm not a lawyer, but what I did was, I've been
in contact with your attorney for Southold Town and as of Friday he's
conducting an investigation into this because it seems just a little strange,
let's put it that way.
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Now, the application for the lot line change in my opinion is based on a
questionable COA or abandonment of that Penn Ave. Also, when you go to
the next letters 5 & 6 I think it's pretty clear that Mr. Moran and Mr. Wankel
wish to develop that area. I highlighted what their own words are and I think
despite what they said would like to possibly go for a minor subdivision and
put three houses in there, if possible.
And the last thing I wanted to say was that t moved here five years ago to
get away from congestion, the rat race and everything else. The North Fork
has excellent values, location, everything is beautiful. I'd like you to decline
this because even though this is a small little lot line change in a little area,
it's kind of a microcosm of what's happening to the North Fork with the
development and commercialization. So t think it's just as important as
million dollar land acquisitions or anything else. So I would really appreciate a
decline of this and hopefully that kind of philosophy continued on
throughout the rest of the North Fork's development. Thank you.
Mr. Oriowski: Thank you. Any other comments?
Aurelius Sclafani: I would withhold my comments please since this meeting is
being adjourned, but I would respectfully request to have a copy of the
submission by Mr. Campbell. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments at this time? The Board will hold this
hearing open because it's confusing to myself and the rest of the Board how
you abandon a road like that without the Highway Superintendent knowing
about it or anyone else. So we'll try to find out by the next meeting and
that will be October 26, so I'll entertain a motion to hold this hearing open.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ortowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Orlowski: 7:40 p.m. Dzu,qas Winery- This proposed site plan is for a
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1,116 square foot winery on a 28 acre parcel on IRt. 48 (a.k.a. 'Middle IRd.,
North IRd.) in Southold. SCTM# 1000-59-10-6.3. I'll ask if there are any
comments on this proposed site plan?
Joseph Jurkovich: My name is Joseph Jurkovich. i'm a homeowner - 1675
Tuckers Lane, right next to the property. I'really have no objection to the
property, whatever they want to do with it. What I do have an objection to
is that I've been having an awful lot of problems with dust with that organic
vegetable farm that's being grown there. He made the road right next to
my property. Trucks go in there. Cars go in there. I cannot keep my
windows open on the house. I can't sit outside, because they go in 30-40
miles and hour and they come out the same way.
I've spoken with them. I asked them if they would kindly use the road that's
designated...there's two roads leading into that property right now that are
designated roads. I can understand the farm equipment being used, that's
farming. I spoke to the owner about it. I asked her to use the main road or
at least when they go by the house to slow down a little bit so they don't
raise the dust on dry days. Her answer to me was, this is farmland, this is the
way it is out here.
I came to the Town Hall here to ask advice, to speak to people. They told me
that they can't do anything about it. It's farmland and they can do whatever
they want. I just had the house painted. I had to go out there every couple
of hours while the house was being painted and wet the road down because
they were going in and out constantly. And they don't slow up at all In fact
they make comments [o me when I ask then to slow down. And that's not
being very neighborly.
My father built the house in 1972 We owned the property since 1965. I
have dealt with Mr. Doroski where he used to farm the land. He was a very
good neighbor. We always got along fine He used to cut the grass and the
weeds right up to the hedges. I've got hedges three sides of the property
which I keep trimmed and everything. I can't trim them, I can't go on the
other side because it's neglected. That's the problem I've been having all
summer. And I want to make 8 comment to you, Donna. You made a
comment on the letter that you sent me that the painting looks very n~ce,
that I built the house up and everything. If you only knew what I had to go
through when was painting the house. And that's not being very
neighborly at all.
Mr. Orlowski: OK. This site plan doesn't address any ingress and egress from
Tuckers Lane. I think we've already been told that there won't ~3e a farm
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stand there any more after this is approved anyway, so...
Mr. Jurkovich: Well, how about the road that they made there that cars go in
and out?
Mr. Ortowski: We're not addressing it here on the site plan.
Mr. Jurkovich: I understand that, but I don't know who to talk to anymore.
(Change tape). I'm there on a Sunday, Saturday. I can't keep my windows
open.
Mr. Orlowski: I can't address that...
Mr. Jurkovich: I'm a taxpayer since 1965. The house was built in 1972, we've
been paying taxes since 1972 for the house and everything else. What rights
do l have?
Mr. Orlowski: Like I said, we're entertaining the site plan itself for the winery,
and access for this is Rt. 48.
Mr. Jurkovich: Well, can you advise me? Do I have get a lawyer to be advised
or...
Mr. Orlowski: That would be between you and your neighbor. We don't get
involved in that.
Mr. Jurkovich: Thank you very much.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments?
Afadite Katavos: My name is Afadite Katavos: I'm at 145 Greenfields Lane,
which is at Tucker, and I'm just asking for information on two matters. I
don't know if one was partially addressed. I have no objection to the
project, but I wanted to know will there be enough parking spaces provided
on the property facing 48, for workers cars, trucks, and c, ustomers so that
Tucker Lane does not become a parking lot? And two, will the entrances and
exits be on 48? The corner of Tucker Lane and 48 is very dangerous. Two
speed anes turn into one lane at that corner, and the visibility around the
corner from Tucker Lane is bad. We hope this dangerous situation is taken
into account. That's just my comment. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: The curb cut on this goes onto 48 and basically it's across
from...
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Ms. Katavos: So could we just hope that our neighbor is a good neighbor and
respects the homeowners in the area then?
Mr. Orlowski: On Tuckers Lane, there's no access here on this site plan.
Mr. Jurkovich: Excuse me, they've already made the road, right next to my
property.
Mr. Orlowski: That's a farm road and that's on the property. I can't...
Mr. Jurkovich: For cars to go in and out constantly? Trucks? They have a
road that's designated to get into that land there. In fact, they have two
roads that are designated. There's one down by the railroad tracks, second
house from the railroad tracks, and there's one for 48.
Mr. Orlowski: Again, I can't address that. This Board can't address that. I
mean it's their property.
Mr. Jurkovich: Well, who can address it then?
Mr. Orlowski: That's something you'd have to discuss with your neighbor to...
Mr. Jurkovich: If I discuss it with my neighbor, I'm going to get into trouble.
I can't entertain that at this hearing because it has nothing to do with the
site plan itself. This access shows for the winery, off of 48 which will have to
obtain a curb cut from Suffolk County to have that access. The rest of it is
residential and access it from wherever they access it. We don't entertain
that.
Mr. Jurkovich: So the road is going to stay there no matter what she does?
Mr. Orlowski: I don't know what she is going to do with that road.
Danielle Helinski: Good evening. My name is Danielle Helinski and I live at the
corner of Tuckers and the North Road. I live right across the street from
Mrs. Dzugas-Smith: And I just wanted you guys to know I have no
oppositions to this winery: I think the way she's going about it and the way
she's doing it and the way it is a truly family run vineyard, and the way she is
planning on doing a log vineyard, and the whole nine yards I think that's very
much in keeping with the environment and very much in keeping with the
way I think Southold should betray itself. So, I just wanted you guys to know
that we have no oppositions to it whatsoever.
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I think, should it be a successful business which t'm sure it will be, we will
have problems with the North Road. We already have problems. I've already
addressed the Supervisor, Jean Cochran to way-lay this lady's fears about
that being reduced to a 45 mile per hour zone through there, and I really
believe that should have to be done, but I know you guys have nothing to
do with that, I'm just kind of answering her question. But, I just wanted you
to know that we're behind her 100%, and I've always known her to be a very
honest and very trustworthy person, and I've known her since she moved in
and that's probably been 4 or 5 years ago. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments?
Lee Cooper: My name is Lee Cooper. I live across the street from Joe. My
objection...I know we can't do anything about this so called farm road, it's
more of a thoroughfare. I'd just like to go on record as being against the
farm road as it stands now. The winery is great. To continue the farm road,
I'll guess we'll have to find some other alternative. Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments?
Donna Dzugas-Smith: My name is Donna Dzugas-Smith and I'm representing
my family that's in the back, for the winery. We've been working on this
since May with the Planning Board and the Architectural ReView Committee.
And first I want to thank the Planning Board for being as professional as they
are. This has been a hard project. Wineries are a difficult project out here,
no matter how you look at it. It's on that A-C land. It's a small scale. Like he
said it's 1,116 square feet. It's hand-crafted logs and yes, it's sole entrance
and exit from opposite Kenny's Road on the North Road, it should not
involve Tuckers Lane. Eventually, the rest of the land we hope will be
complete vineyard. We're approaching the Land Preservation Committee to
sell the Development Rights, so you'll have open space.
And I know it,s not supposed to be addressed here, but since two neighbors
brought it up I just would like to address it as far as the farm road. I have
sPoken to the neighbor. That is not my response to you. It might have been
from the farmer that's renting my land from me, but that was not my
response to you.
Mr. Jurkovich: Yes it was Donna.
Ms. Dzugas-SmJth: Well, anyway, the dirt farm road, I rarely, rarely use it. We
use the one from the North Road and we do have one next to Helen's house
that we use a lot. We go into the vineyard which tends to be more closer to
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the tracks. I will speak to the organic farmer to see if we can lessen the use
of that dirt road. I do want to be a friendly neighbor and I will work on that.
That's about all I have to say.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments? Hearing none, any questions from the
Board? Mr. Ward?
Mr. Ward: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham?
Mr. Latham: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Cremers?
Mr. Cremers: No,
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards?
Mr. Edwards: None.
Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz?
Ms. Scopaz: No, I just wanted to add a comment with regard to the
residents concerns about the traffic. Just to let you know that I have been
working with the State Department of Transportation for the past few years
to have a concerted traffic study done. I don't know if you noticed this
summer but there have been traffic counters on the North Road and in
town and these traffic counts will continue through the fall. And the reason
why they're there is because the State is doing counts on all the roads - the
State, County and local roads, in an attempt to update the information
that's available about the volume and the speed at which traffic is moving
through the town:
Next year they are going to do an analysis of this and one of the issues that
we have asked them to look at is the issue of speeding at certain
intersections where we know we have problems. And as we've mentioned,
Tuckers Lane is one of those of concern. The County DPW also is aware of
our concerns about the increased amount of speeding that's taking place.
And we are hoping to avoid having to put stop lights at every single
intersection,
One of the things that I have recommended to the Board is that we keep the
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hearing open untit we have worked with the DPW to insure that the location
of this curb cut to the site does not make the problem worse. So I want you
to be aware of that. There's a dialog going on and what we're hoping to do
is find some way to add this curb cut without making the situation worse.
The concern will not end there. We are going to continue working with the
County over the next year or two to try to resolve this. I don't know how it
will be resolved but it will be something you'll be hearing more about as time
goes on.
Anthony Coutsouros: Good evening. My name is Anthony Coutsouros and I
live on Tuckers Lane and would just like to say that, as 've said this once
before, that I think the building proposed at the winery will ~3e a very
attractive building and I think it does go with the area And I just wish that
you would take a little more attention on other projects that go up around,
like Mr. Gray's project. I have no objection to him putting storage buildings
up, but think the front of the buildings or whatever faces the road in that
particular case should be an attractive building that will add to the area. A
lot ike some of these cesspool companies and nurseries that have all this
plastic all over the place and they look Iike...I mean really, it's just an eyesore.
Now you see people are moving out here. People are trying to get away
from all the hustle and bustle and all the concrete And they come out and
see these...I guess it was Mr. Gray who put up the Feather Hill complex? It's
a shame that project isn't a very successful project because it is really an
attractive that really does a lot for the North Fork. Projects like that really do
a lot. Like I said once before, we held McDonalds to a higher standard and
we should hold everybody to that standard that wants to put up a
commercial building that will add to the area and not detract from it.
I understand the farmers want to put up the most inexpensive b)uildings as
possible, but it really does detract from Southold and the North Fork, what
the future for the North Fork is, to have all these tin sheds going up all over
the place. The one they built on 48 right next to the church, I don't know
Row they got away with putting that storage shed up? I just don't
understand how you can allow a thing like that to go up next to a house of
worship. That thing is a niglqtmare. Is this the Board that approved that
building? Is that Riverhead? Look how disgusting that thing looks over
there, next to a house of worsh p. I couldn't believe it.
Mr. Orlowski: We agree.
Ellen Latson: Good evening members of the Board My name is Ellen Latson.
I'm the neighbor right across the street from the Dzugas-Smith properw. I'd
just like to go on record saying that I think it's very important that the Town
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of Southold support the wine and wine industry; that it has literally saved the
Town of Southold from major subdivisions and will continue to do so. That
the Dzugas-Smith family, they're a working family with three small children
and that when they get the winery up this will give them the revenues that
they need that they'll improve the property as they go along so this is a
stepping stone along the way to what I hope is a very successful venture for
them.
The only thing that I have discussed with Donna is that for such a small
building I think there is a lot of parking, but when I looked at the plan I see
how you figure it out and how you have to have all the parking and that's
fine. I mentioned to Donna, when they have the vines in front of the parking
it looks nice that way. She said initially they're going to have landscaping
and then someday along the line they'll put the vines in front and improve it.
But, as I've said, they're a working family. They can't do everything
overnight, and so I wish them luck and I'm glad that there are a lot of
wineries on the North Fork.
Mr. Orlowski: Anyone else?
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the resolution that we hold the
hearing open pending the resolve of the Suffolk County Department of
Highways for their curb cut approval.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion?
Ms. Dzugas-Smith: Yes, I have a question. As far as holding it open for the
curb cut, it's just when the Building Department sends in the form, am I
understanding this right, for the curb cut? We're not waiting for the year
study from the Suffolk County Department of Public Works?
Mr. Orlowski: No.
Ms. Dzugas-Smith: We're just waiting for their approval of the curb cut when
the Building Department hands in that form?
Mr. Orlowski: Right.
Ms. Dzugas-Smith: OK, I'm just making sure I understand.
Mr. Orlowski: OK. Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
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Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. In regards to the SEQRA
determination?
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the
State Environmental Quality Review Act (6NYCRR) (Part 617.5) makes a
determination that this project is a Type I1 action and not subject to the
provisions of the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA).
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion?
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
All
Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Mr. Orlowski: Jimbo Realty Corp, - This proposed site plan is for a 34,200
square foot self service dry storage building; a 1,750 square foot
residence, and a 1,575 square foot office building on a 2.9 acre site on Rt.
48 (a.k.a. North Rd., Middle Rd.) in Southold. SCTM# 1000-59-4-8 & 9. I'll
ask if there are any comments. The hearing is open and we're going to hold
this hearing open. I'll entertain a motion to do that in a minute, to
November 16. We have information that we've asked the applicant to
provide and he hasn't provided us with that yet. If anybody wants to make a
comment different from anything that we've heard in the last two meetings,
otherwise 1'11 just entertain a motion to hold this hearing open.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Ms. Helinski: I'm the lady that spoke about Dzugas-Smith vineyard.
Unfortunately, I'll be his neighbor too. I have to oppose him. I like her but I
don't like him. Like I said, it's apples and oranges. You've got a wood
building and then you,ve got a tin building and the two don't mix. And like
the lady said, the stuff that's coming to Southold is going to haunt us for
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years, and I hope to God that this Board has enough gumption about it, if
you would, to stop it right now and tell people we're not going to do this
anymore. We're not going to let you in our town anymore unless you're
going to do things the way we want them done. Thank you,
Mr. Orlowski: Thank you~ Anyone else? Do I have a motion?
Mr. Latham: Mr~ Chairman, i'll offer this.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board hold the hearing
open pending receipt of a revised site plan. If the revised site plan is not
received by the Planning Board by November 16, 1998, the hearing will be
closed~
Mr. (Zremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Oriowski: S&L Irri,qation - This site plan waiver is for a 1,000 sq. ft. office
building and a 2,500 sq. ft. storage and warehouse, for an irrigation
business, in an existing building. SCTM# 1000-113-10-14.1 & 15.
This hearing too, believe we're going to entertain a motion to keep it open.
The applicant has requested it, but since it is open I'll ask if there are any
new comments on this site plan? Hearing none, we will hold this open. I'll
entertain a motion,
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll off the following resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board hold the hearing
open. The next Planning Board meeting is scheduled for October 26, 1998
at 7:30 p.m.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
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those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. 0rlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. 0rlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF
APPLICATIONS
Sketch Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski: Richard Reinhardt - This minor subdivision is for 3 lots on
20.3995 acres. Proposed Lot #I is for 16.~995 acres of which 14.3995 acres
are pending the sale of the development rights. The proposed subdivision is
located on the northeast side of Alvah's Lane, 2,873 feet north of Main Rd. in
Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-102-4-5. The Board's pleasure on the sketch?
Richard Reinhardt: i'm Richard Reinhardt and I have three maps. Do you
want these now?
Ms. Spiro: OK.
Mr. Reinhardt: We were asked to make a couple of changes to the map since
the work session, pretty much from Dick Ryan and the Land Preservation
Committee to allow us agricultural access along the westerly part of lots 2
and 3, just for farm vehicles. So we've adjusted to allow that, and also we
put in a letter to the Planning Board...another question Mr. Ryan, his concern
is the vistas to the east and he's asked us if we wouldn't plant any
vegetation or erect any trees that would block that vista, and we completely
agree with that.
Mr. Orlowski: OK, does the Board have any questions? I'll entertain a motion.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution.
BE iT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board star~ the
coordination process on this unlisted action. The Board assumes lead agency
status and in that capacity makes an initial determination of non-significance.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
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Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Ward: And further, I'll offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, Richard Reinhardt has an application pending before the Land
Preservation Committee for the sale of the development rights on 14.4 acres
of the subject property; and
WHEREAS, as noted in a letter to the Planning Board dated September 30,
1998, from Richard Reinhardt, the proposed subdivision application will be
withdrawn should he be unable to proceed with the sale of the development
rights; be it therefore
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board grant sketch approval on
the map dated April 29, 1998 with the following conditions:
The map is to be revised to include a connection between
Proposed Lot Number 1 and the land shown on the map as
owned now or formerly by Paul Kaloski and Sophie Kaloski.
This area is to be included with the area pending the sale of the
development rights. The development rights have been sold on
the Kaloski land and the above mentioned area will serve to
connect the parcels on which the development rights have
been sold.
A Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions must be filed for
the subdivision including a restriction that there shall be no
visual obstruction (including, but not limited to, a solid fence, a
hedge, trees, etc.) along the Atvah's Lane road frontage. This
restriction is required to maintain the scenic vistas from Alvah's
Lane. The restriction shall not apply to the 30 foot frontage at
the northwesterly corner of the property. (Change tape)
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowskh Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
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Mr. Orlowskk Opposed?
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Motion carried.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES, SET OFF
APPLICATIONS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
Determinations:
October 5, 1998
Mr. Orlowski: Laurel Links, Ltd. - This project includes both a subdivision and
site plan application, The subdivision application consists of a proposal for
31 lots on a total of 222.85 acres, located in Mattituck.
SCTM# 1000-125-3-13, 15, 17, SCTM# 1000-125-4-21, 24.1 and
SCTM# 1000-126-7-1.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board adopt the
September I0, 1998 environmental report prepared by Charles Voorhis. The
Planning Board is adopting the recommendations included in the report, and
is requiring the preparation of an EAF Part Iit.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowsl(i: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the mOtion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ortowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
SITE PLANS
Se~ing of Final Hearing:
Mr. Orlowski: Raphael Vineyard - This proposed site plan is for a 13,897
square foot winery on a 50.4829 acre parcel, on Rt. 25 in Peconic.
SCTM# 1000-85-3-1.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, i'll offer the following resolution.
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BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board start the
coordination process on this unlisted action.
Mr, Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Cremers: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning
Board set Monday, October 26, 1998 at 7:30 p.m. for a final public hearing
on the plans dated September 18, 1998.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Waivers:
Mr. Orlowski: Robert J. Scalia - This proposed site plan waiver is for a real
estate office on Rt. 25 in Southold. SCTM# 1000-61-4-22.
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, Robert J. Scalia is renting the property known and designated as
SCTM# 1000-61-4-22 located on Rt. 25 in Southold; and
WHEREAS, a business office is a permitted use in this Hamlet Business (HB)
zone; and
WHEREAS, an examination has been made of all uses and the existing parking
was determined to be adequate for all uses; and
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WHEREAS, the proposed change from a former use as a retail store to
business office will not be a more intensive use of this property; and
WHEREAS, a handicapped parking space will be provided; and
WHEREAS, any violation of the conditions of this resolution may be grounds
for rescinding this waiver; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant a waiver of site plan
requirements.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Mr. Orlowski: Board to approve the September '14, '1998 minutes.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
Mr. Orlowskh Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowskh Opposed? Motion carried. There's nothing left on my agenda.
If anybody wants to say anything on the record, you can do so, otherwise we
will go into a work session right now and we can discuss anything you'd like.
I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Edwards: Second.
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Mr. Orlowski: All those in favor?
AyeS: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting
adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
Be~ett Orl'~w~-~r, ~hair~an
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERK
To~ Clerk, To~ o[ ~u~old
Respectfully submitted,
Martha A. Jones
Secretary