HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-08/10/1998PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR.
Chefirman
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
GEORGE RITCYIIE LATHAM, JR.
RICHARD G. WAPJ)
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINUTES
August 10, 1998
Present were:
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Richard G. Ward
G. Ritchie Latham
William Cremers
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Robert G. Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer
Absent: Kenneth Edwards
Martha Jones, Secretary
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening. I'd like to call this meeting to order. The first
order of business, Board to set Monday, September 14, 1998 at 7:30 p.m. at
Southold Town Hall, Main Rd., Southold, as the time and place for the next
regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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Mr. Orlowski: Ore,qon LLC - Corso - This proposed lot line change consists of
3 applications which are being reviewed concurrently. The 3 original parcels
are 17.4 acres, 4.7 acres and 2.1 acres in area. The 3 revised parcels will be
16.1 acres, 4.7 acres and 3.4 acres in area upon completion of the lot line
applications. SCTM# 1000-83-2-11.3 & 11.4 and 83-2-10.6. I'll ask if there
are any comments on this proposed lot line change? Any questions from
the Board? There being no further questions, I'll entertain a motion to close
the hearing.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded, All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. What's the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, Oregon LLC is the owner of the property known and designated as
SCTM# 1000-83-2-11.3, and Luba Corso, Regina Corso & Monica Corso are
the owners of the property Known and designated as SCTM# 1000-83-2-
11.4, and Louis C. Corso, Luba Corso, Regina Corso & Monica Corso are the
owners of the property known and designated as SCTM# 1000-83-2-10.6,
located on the north side of Oregon Rd. in Cutchogue; and
WHEREAS, this application, which is for 3 lot line changes, ~s to revise the
property boundaries of 3 parcels which are currently 17.4, 4.7 and 2.1 acres
in area, so that the 3 final parcels are 16.1, 4.7 and 3.7 acres in area; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead
agency and issued a Negative Declaration on July 13, 1998; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58,
Notice of Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has
complied with the notification provisions; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was closed on said subdivision application at
the Town Hall, Southold, New York on August 10, 1998; and
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WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
approval on the maps dated June 15, 1998, and authorize the Chairman to
endorse the final surveys subject to fulfillment of the following condition. All
conditions must be met within six (6) mOnths of the date of this resolution:
New deeds reflecting the lot line changes must be filed for all parcels
involved. Copies of the recorded deeds must be submitted to this
office.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Orlowski: Riverhead Buildin_~ SuDPI¥ - This proposed site plan is for a
50,425 square foot building expansion, located on Rt. 25 in Greenport.
SCTM# 1000-46-1-1 & 2.1. I'll ask if there are any comments on this
proposed site plan?
Pat Moore: 51020 Main Rd., Southold. With me this evening I have Don
Denis who is the architect and from Riverhead Building Supply, Jeff Bauer.
So if you have any specific questions we'd be happy to answer them.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments on Riverhead Building Supply? Hearing
none, any comments from the Board? Mr. Ward?
Mr. Ward: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Latham?
Mr. Latham: No.
Mr. Ortowski: Mr. Cremers?
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Mr. Cremers: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Ms. Scopaz?
Ms. Scopaz: No.
Mr. Orlowski: If there are no further comments, I'll entertain a motion to
adjourn the hearing.
Mr. Cremers: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr, Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. What's the Board's pleasure?
Mr. Latham: I'll offer this resolution Mr. Chairman.
WHEREAS, Riverhead Building Supply, Corp. is the owner of the property
known and designated as Riverhead Building Supply, Corp., located on Rt. 25
in Oreenport, SCTM# '1000-46-'1-'1 & 2.'1; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was
submitted on June '18, '1997; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 6'17, declared itself lead
agency and issued a Negative Declaration on August '1'1, '1997; and
WHEREAS, a variance was granted by the Board of Appeals on June 23, '1998;
and
WHEREAS, this approval is for the construction of a 50,425 square foot
lumber yard supply building; and
WHEREAS, the applicant agrees to implement the ctrainage design
recommendations by the Town Engineer dated August 5, '1998, a copy of
which was sent to the applicant's agent on August '10, '1998; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
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approval on the survey dated October 21, 1997 and authorize the Chairman
to endorse the final surveys subject to fulfillment of the following conditions.
All conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of this
resolution.
1. Certification by the Building Inspector.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers,
Mr. Orlowskh Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Orlowski: Peconic Landing - This application is to amend an
approved site plan for construction of 118 single family detached
cottages; 132 apartment units; 24 unit assisted living center; and 32 bed
skilled care center with supporting amenities. SCTM# 1000-35-I-25. I'll ask
now for any comments or presentations on this?
Charles Cuddy: I'm Charles Cuddy on behalf of Peconic Landing at Southold,
Inc. This is an application that has been before you for a considerable period
of time. I know the Board has looked very carefully at it and I just would like
to go through with some of the people that are here, some of the fine
points of the application.
As you know it's a 144 acre site that's properly known as Brecknock Hall and
at that site we want to reduce the existing plan from 350 units to, as the
Chairman indicated, 250 units, 118 of which are individual dwellings and 132
are apartments.
This is a site that lends itself particularly to a life care center and a life care
center of course is unique not only to Southold but to Long Island and
essentially to the State of New York because there are very few of them.
There are two operating right now and there are a few others that are
getting approval. But this will be the first on Long Island. We think it's going
to be the best on Long Island, by far.
This is a site that lends itself to development the way the architects that
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render it here. And I have several people that would like to talk and bring to
both your attention and the audiences attention, what has been done at the
site. First, I'm going to ask John Dussling to step up and he is from US
Retirement Communities; and then later Howard Young, and later the
Architects from Ewing & Cole. I would also point out to you just that we
have finally received our certificate of authority from the State of New York,
which means that we've been approved by a combination of the Attorney
General's office, the Health Department and the Insurance Department. And
that's a big step because we now can go into actually marketing these sites.
John Dussling: Good evening. I'm John Dussling. I am project coordinator
for US Retirement Communities, the developer of Peconic Landing at
Southold, continuing care retirement communities for Peconic Landing
Board, a non-profit corporation to develop this site.
Continuing care retirement community, as Mr. Cuddy said, is a new concept
on Long Island specifically and certainly in the State of New York, but the
State has amended their rules and regulations to allow these communities,
because of the desirability, the need of the way that these communities are
received in states that permit them have shown that there is a tremendous
demand. And most communities of this type that have been in operation
for a period of time have a long waiting list of people desiring to get in.
The community wi be established for those who are retired or of retirement
age, 65 and older, although the average age at entrance is qormally in the
upper 70's and those who've lived in the communities for some time and as
the communities mature, the average age of the residents moves up into
the Iow 80's. 83-84 years old tends to be the average age of an established
community.
Our community, as Mr. Cuddy said, wil be built on the 144 acre Brecknock
Hall property. We will build the cottages and apartments as Mr. Cuddy
explained There will also be a community center in which we will offer
services to the residents of the community. There will be a dining room at
which they will take 30 meals a month, meals and days of their choosing.
There will be recreational facilities. There will be an enclosed swimming pool.
There will De a convenience store, a bank; we will Rave provisions for hair
care if a local business would like to establish themselves in the community.
There's a library for residents, a meeting nail for gathering and for dances
and attached to the community center is the health care center. The health
care center consists of 26 rooms of enriched housing, as it's termed in the
State of New York, which is assisted living which provides assistance for
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those who need help with one or more of their normal daily functions. They
live in a small apartment in the assisted living quarters.
There are also 36 rooms of skilled nursing care for those who cannot live
independently even with assistance. The number of assisted and skilled
rooms that we're building here will be enough to service the residents of this
community long into the future.
Communities of this type are normally welcomed by the surrounding area of
the towns in which they're located and there are a number of reasons.
Normally, particularly those communities that are developed by US
Retirement, we try to find a site which is large enough so that we can
preserve a significant amount of open space and we think we've done that
well on this site, and t think you'll see that as the project is presented to you
this evening. Of the 144 acres we're using approximately half. The
remainder will remain open space and we've allowed considerable open
space between the homes and other buildings.
Local employment is usually welcomed by the surrounding area. In our
project we are planning for 156.8 full time equivalent jobs. How can you
have .8 of a job? Well, what that amounts to is really about 180jobs of full
time and part time employment, or could be as high as 200. We expect that
this project will be one of the largest and hopefully best employers in
Southold Town.
Volunteers of people who will reside here are retired They have time and
they are historically known for providing their services to the greater
communities in which they live. There's a great affinity between the elderly
and the young and many times with day care centers and schools there can
be associations made up. The residents will also volunteer their time to
many other local organizations, you'll find.
Our community will have minimal, virtually no demands on municipal
services. The roads will remain private. The trash collection will be private.
Our major buildings are sprinkled, there being little requirement for fire
service, and virtually any other municipal service you can think of is scarcely
if at all required by retirement communities.
Traffic impact is light as has been demonstrated in the information that
we've provided from our traffic analysis. The normal retired couple makes
two or three trips a day whereas the typical family of four makes nine to
eleven trips a day by automobile, and so this has a very light impact. Also,
the community provides transportation for the residents. There will be a
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shuttle bus to provide them with transportation off site as required.
Utilities - we have all of our utilities in place and there was a well installed on
the site which was designed to produce 288,000 gallons of water a day, and I
believe it is producing that now. But this community will require according
to our engineers, tess than (~0,000 gallons, so water usage is light and the
subsequent demands on the sewer system are also light.
Stormwater drainage - I think as our engineers go through the site you'll see
that all of the stormwater generated on the site will be retained on the site
and will actually be filtered through a bio-filtration system before it's put
back into the ground.
Schools - although we're building a lot of homes here and we'll have a lot of
residents because of their age there will be absolutely no impact on the local
school system. That being said, I will make myself available to you to answer
any questions. I'd like to present our architect and our engineer who will
review the models and exhibits that we have tonight and they will be
available to answer any questions that the Board or the public may have. We
also have other experts here for landscaping, for environmental and
architectural and engineering. And that being said, I'd like to turn the
microphone over to Howard Young, of Young and Young Civil Engineers and
Surveyors from Riverhead.
I guess we're going to go leap-frog. Mark Hebdin is with the firm of Ewing,
Cole, Cherry & Brott, in Philadelphia. Mark is a principal with the firm and will
present the thought behind the initial site plan layout. Then Howard Young
will follow with the engineering that went into that and then the architects
will follow again with the buildings. Thank you.
Mark Hebdin: I'm going to give you a brief overview of the site plan and the
materials that we have here, the buildings and how they look, and if you
have any other questions or would like me to go into any more detail I'd be
happy to do so.
When we started out with this site we developed a diagram where we
diagramed with the yellow arrows you see where the best views are, and
again I'll orient you to the entire site. In all of the drawings that I'm going to
show you and the models that we have here, Rt. 25 is at the bottom of the
drawing or on the model it's pointing towards the doors to the side where
the American flag is. And then also, this Long Island Sound is to the top of
the drawing and also towards closest to me here on this model.
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And these yellow arrows indicate the views that we're trying to take
advantage of. We also looked at where the sun was setting and rising based
on these arrows. We also looked at, with these different shades of green,
where the Iightest areas were where down here along Rt. 25 is Brecknock
Hall. There's an outparcel next to Brecknock Hall that's not part of the site.
That had a manicured lawn space. There was the sand pit that was
previously mined in the center of the site and there was also varying areas of
these larger areas of lighter green really are showing areas that were lighter
vegetation. And then there were the darker green areas where there were
treed areas with heavier vegetation.
And in taking all these factors into account, including these beautiful high
point views off of the bluff and the fact that the Iow point sat down in here
where the existing pond or waterway came (inaudible) through the bluff into
the site, those factors were all put in together to help us decide that we
wanted to really take the most advantage of the site and we wanted to take
position in the community center which has most of the community
functions and primarily the dining functions and the dally activities for the
residents right in the center of the site. This worked well for all of the
residents having equal access and shortening the walking distances to the
central areas of the site where they would spend a lot of their time.
And this also being the greatest view point created a nice central location so
that was therefore a result in the placement of the community center in the
center of the site. We also then positioned the cottages around on the
western edge of the site, again grouping as many as we could with a very
Iow density in order to get as many views through to the Long Island Sound
and of course grouping them on this side towards the east towards the
existing public golf course and wrapping them down along that side so that
we would also have views for some of the cottages through the woods to
the golf course.
And then on either side of the community center on one side, on the
eastern side facing towards the golf course, we have the apartment building
which was extended here again, as we said earlier there are 132 apartments
there n a mixture of two and three stories. And those apartments again
were positioned to get the 1oest views of the pond area that breaks in from
the bluff from the north and also to give people good views towards the
new ponds that we're going to be creating at the entry where you come
into the central entry where you come into the community center.
To the west connected to the community center, again is the health center
which includes as was said earlier, the 36 rooms of skilled care on the first
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floor which is nursing home type beds; and then the 26 units of assisted
living or enriched housing on the second floor.
And then this is the site plan that developed from that and again if there's
any questions about that, Howard Young will follow and talk in more detail
about the drainage issues.
Within the center of the site then we talked about the community center
and the health center and the apartments and what this larger scale model
beyond the site model represents is a blow up of that area to give you a
sense of the massing of the buildings. Now again, this is completely showing
all of the community center and all of the health center but it's only showing
a portion of the apartments because you can see we're really only zeroing in
on this area here. They do extend further to get more advantage again of
the views towards the pond that comes in from the bluff. And you can see
here that the building does transition from a two story to three story. We've
minimized the three story as much as possible. You can see the two story
elements of the health center again with the skilled nursing on the lower
level and the assisted living on the upper level. And then we have some
details of the elevation of that just to give you another view. This shows you
the front elevation which is facing Rt. 25, which again is facing the wall over
there. And this is the rear elevation which faces towards me.
Down here a bit further we have elevations of the apartments again which
show the transitioning from the two story to the three story and minimizing
the three story area. All of the ends of the apartments are all in two story so
the building appears to be as Iow amassing as possible. This is a particular
view of one of the ends of the apartment buildings. This is another view,
looking at the end of one of the apartment buildings again showing how it's
only two stories and again when I show you some of the cottages you'll see
that we're trying to make the scale of the apartment buildings as they face
towards the cottages towards the east towards the golf course, that they
sti have the same scale and feeling.
And then this is a view of the apartment buildings closer towards Rt. 25
towards the front entry. And again, with these apaFcments arranged the
way they are, we feel that they're in a very compatible location on the site.
It affords us the ability to be very Iow in density. Again, we had ' 44 acres to
develop but we were able to work within only 72 acres. We have the scenic
easements that are in the front part of the site around Brecknock Hall. We
also were respectful of the scenic easements and the bluff setbacks that we
were given on the bluff side towards Long island Sound.
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The cottages which again were organized mostly along the eastern and
western perimeters of the site, there are three models of cottages: They go
from about 1400 square feet, 1650 square feet and 1950 square feet and
these are the front elevations of the three models. All of the style of the
architecture of the apartments and the community center and the cottages
we believe are very compatible with the single architectural style that's been
very common out here on Long Island. Is there anything that you'd like me
to address further, or that I've missed? We could always come back also, if
you'd like to hear from Howard Young next.
Mr. OrlowskJ: Are those garages on the right hand side?
Mr. Hebdin: Yes, they are. Each of the cottages has the same dimension
across the front. This allows us to give the flexibility to the residents to
decide which cottage they want to place on any site. The garages are also
oriented in their dimension so that the garage can be positioned with a door
coming into the side of the unit or coming in directly from the front,
depending on the site location. (Answering inaudible question) The colors
you see here are an approximation of what were looking at.
Howard Young: Good evening. I'm Howard Young, of Young and Young.
Young and Young was very proud to have been selected to lend our
engineering expertise to this project. We received this project (inaudible) it's
one of the best thought out projects that i've seen in my lifetime. I'm just
going to touch quickly on the engineering, because I think everybody else
has mentioned...I don't want to be repetitive.
We were challenged, I guess with the grading, drainage, water supply,
sewage disposal and some of the other amenities that serve this project.
The grading was done in such a way as to minimize the amount of clearing
that had to be done and to maximize the views. So the only place where any
substantial change in the grade was here, to get a little bit petter views
because the bluff was much higher than that land there.
The drainage, we have picked up all of the drainage from the site that's
been...of all the roadways, driveways, the roof runoff, and conveyed that by
storm sewer to this point which was the old sand pit which we have made
into a stormwater retention area and further made that into some ponds
which will be permanent ponds and which will receive the water and then
run the water through vegetation which (inaudible) a bile filter, to remove
any of the pollutants in the stormwater runoff. And then that ends up in the
last pond here, as the groundwater pond which the water will be recharged
back through the groundwater.
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We looked at, in the process, that we will not affect the wetlands in these
two areas here that there will still have enough runoff from the surrounding
property to those wetlands. So it should be no change in their habitat.
The water supply was from the Suffolk Water Authority, will go throughout
the site, public water. We did meet with the local fire department and they
selected some fire hydrant locations. We've prepared and have shown a fire
lane along the east side of the apartment house. The sanitary sewer we
picked up through the whole site and we led the (inaudible) by gravity all the
way to a pump house at this location where the sewage will be pumped to
the Greenport Sewage Treatment Facility.
We've done lighting and some other amenities here and some path system
throughout. Again, if there's any questions, I'd be glad to...
Mr. Orlowski: After the excavation and regrading will any soil be leaving the
site?
Mr. Young: As near as we can tell, the site is balanced almost exactly and any
excess that we would adjust some grades in here so there won't be anything
leaving the site. Right now, mathematically, it's balanced.
Mr. Orlowski: Are there any other comments on this site plan?
Stanley Shield: Stanley Shield of Mattituck. One gentleman mentioned a well
on the site. Mr. Young mentioned the Suffolk Water Authority. Who will be
supplying the water for this proJect, basically?
Mr. Orlowskh I believe it's Suffolk Water Authority.
Mr. Young: This existing well site which was the Oreenport Water Co., which
has been acquired now by the Suffolk WaTer Authority, that is a useful well
now We are going to get water from the Suffolk County Water Authority.
Mr. Shield: One other question Mr. Young. Would you speakto us on the
erosion problem down at the bluffs there? How wilt it affect the project? Is
there an erosion problem on the bluffs? It seems to me it's disappearing, as
a long time resident
Mr. Young: didn't know that the erosion here was unique, but we have set
the cottages al back in excess of 100 feet from the top of the bluff and we
have designed this to make sure that none of our stormwater runoff goes
the direction of the bluff and we put in a program of erosion control
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measures which we will utilize while we're constructing so that this project
will not affect the bluff. And I think that the natural phenomena of erosion
on the Long Island Sound bluff is something we're not certainly going to add
to but something that is happening.
Valerie Scopaz: If I could explain further, the State requires that the Town
manage 100 feet of property from the mean high tide mark landward.
That's a coastal erosion hazard area. When the project sponsors came in we
asked them to stay behind that line. In other words, stay more than 100
feet just in case there was ever a problem in the future. So all the units that
have been placed are well behind that 100 foot line.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments or questions?
Tom Hamilton: My name is Tom Hamilton. I'm from South Carolina, but I own
the lot that's downwind and downstream from the project. I'd like to know
what are those seven foot sewage treatment primary things. Are they open
to the air?
Mr. Young: I didn't hear...
Mr. Hamilton: There's a primary sewage treatment (inaudible). Are they open
or are they closed?
Mr. Young: This is just a pump station to lift the sewage.
Mr. Hamilton: No, you show circles, seven foot circles on the map.
Mr. Young: They're stormwater drainage.
Mr. Hamilton: No, this has nothing to do with stormwater at all.
Mr. Young: Do you want to come look at the map. This is stormwater
drainage.
Mr. Hamilton: That's stormwater. Do you have a separate sewer for the
hospital wing?
Mr. Young: Yes, a sanitary sewer is what I was talking about.
Mr. Hamilton: Is it separate from the stormwater?
Mr, Young: Yes.
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Mr. Hamilton: And is it separate from the hospital?
Mr. Young: You have a sanitary sewer from the hospital and a sanitary sewer
from the cottages goes to the same place.
Mr. Hamilton: But it's not open to the air at anytime?
Mr. Young: No. There's no treatment on this site.
Mr. Hamilton: OK, thankyou.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments or questions?
Dr. Jay Slotkin: I'm an internest at (inaudible). On not so much the site, but
just the concept that this assisted living, such as Peconic, really represents
the future of health care. Elderly people, like everyone else, want to live in a
homelike situation and this has that and it's obviously a beautiful project.
Plus the security of the available services plus sitting on the Eastern Long
Island Hospital Board, there are plans to integrate it with the local hospital
services such as Eastern Long Island, Peconic Health and other local services,
so I really believe, not speaking to the building and so forth, but the concept
here, this really represents a wonderful opportunity for the future of
Southold Town to be in the forefront of the kind of services that are being
developed across the country. New York, for various reasons, has been
behind on that and I think one reason for the large number of applications is
because New York has been behind the eight ball, but now I think you'll see a
lot of other projects like this sprouting across Long Island and other areas of
New York.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments?
Charles Cuddy: I wanted to finish up if no one else has a comment, and say
two things. There are a number of people here who are people interested in
this site because they intend on living there and could be residents of the
site. There also are a number of people who have come tonight who
represent the Board of Trustees for Peconic Landing, the officers of Peconic
Landing. And on behalf of all of them, I'd like to thank...and this is not a
typical statement from me necessarily...l'd like to thank the Planning Board
very much for their sensitivity, for their concern and for their assistance in
moving this project forward. So, thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Anyone else? I must say it's nice to have such a arge turnout
and all positive comments. Usually with a large turnout like this we're
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looking for the back door, so that must be a good sign to start with. Does
the Board have any comments or questions? Mr. Ward? (Change tape)
Mr. Ward: No.
Mr, Orlowski: Mr. Latham?
Mr, Latham: I had a small question as far as the buildings. Originally we were
shown the siding. Some were going to be wood and some other material.
How did that finally work out? The exterior siding, not the roof.
Unknown: We have one of the sample boards that was shown to the
Architectural Review Committee that shows a sampling of the different
sidings if you'd like to take a look at that.
Mr. Latham: Was it wood siding?
Unknown: There's two types of siding that we're intending to use. One is a
wood siding, which is a shingle, and the other is a hardy plank which is a
(inaudible) product that's meant to look like a shingle or siding.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Cremers?
Mr. Cremers: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Ms, Scopaz?
Ms. Scopaz: No questions.
Mr. Orlowski: There being no further questions or comments, I'll entertain a
motion to close the hearing.
Mr. Gremers: So moved.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. Does the Board have any pleasure
at this point in time?
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Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution, that will be
for a Conditional Negative Declaration. This project was previously approved
for a much larger intensive project which did receive a Negative Declaration.
Be it resolved that the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, assumes Lead Agency, and as Lead Agency
makes a determination of non-significance and grants a Conditional Negative
Declaration, subject to an archeological survey IB to be completed.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowskh Opposed? Motion carried.
Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Mr. Orlowski: Jimbo Realty Corp. - This proposed site plan is for a 34,200
square foot self service dry storage building; a 1,750 square foot
residence, and a 1,575 square foot office building on a 2.9 acre site on Rt.
48 (a.k.a. North Rd., Middle Rd.) in Southold. SCTM# 1000-59-4-8 & 9. Since
the applicant isn't here and we haven't heard anything from him, I'll
entertain a motion to keep the hearing open.
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS. LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF
APPLICATIONS
$outhold Town Planning Board 17 August 10, 1998
Final Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski: Smith -Hanauer - This proposed lot line change between Diane
Smith and Sanford and Sue Hanauer is to subtract 0.141 acres from SCTM#
I000-94-5-1.7 and to add it to SCTM# 1000-94-:5-1.5. The parcels are
located on the north side of Sound View Ave. in Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-94-
3-1.5 & 1.7.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
Be it resolved that the Southold Town Planning Board authorize the
Chairman to endorse the final surveys dated April I, 1998. Conditional final
approval was granted on May 18, 1998. All conditions have been fulfilled.
Mr. Latham: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES, SET OFF
APPLICATIONS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
Lead Agency Coordination:
Mr. Orlowski: Laurel Linl(s - The Laurel Links, Ltd. project includes both a
subdivision and site plan application. The subdivision application consists of
a proposal for 31 lots on a total of 222.85 acres located in Mattituck.
SCTM# 1000-125-3-13, 15, 17, SCTM# 1000-125-4-21, 24.1 and
SCTM# 1000-126-7-I.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, The Laurel Links, Ltd. project includes both 8 subdivision and site
plan application; and
WHEREAS, the subdivision application consists of a proposal for 31 lots on a
total of 222.85 acres:
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Lots Numbered 1-29 are clustered residential lots ranging in size from
28,325 square feet to 34,225 square feet;
Lot Number 30 is 157.9 acres and is shown as a golf course;
Lot Number 31 is 2.39 acres and is shown as a golf course
maintenance area; and
WHEREAS, the site plan application consists of a proposal for a not-for-profit
golf course which is to be located on Lot 30 and for a golf course
maintenance area which is to be located on Lot 31. The golf course includes:
a clubhouse, parking, a pool, tennis courts, maintenance buildings, a pump
house, a halfway house and a Superintendent's plot; and
WHEREAS, as per Section 617.4 (b) (6) (I), of the State Environmental Quality
Review Act, the project is classified as a Type 1 action since it involves the
physical alteration of 10 or more acres; be it therefore
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board start the lead agency
coordination process on this Type I action.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
OTHER
Mr. Orlowski: Harbor Park Homes- Endorsement of Certification of
Correction for the approved subdivision of Harbor Park Homes SCTM#1000-
97-6-17 and 103-I-20.5 & 20.6 (a.k.a 97-3-17.1 and 103-1 20.9, 20.10,
20.11 and 20.12.). I'm going to remove that from the agenda since no
~nspection was actually made of the plantings and the neighbors called me
with some questions on where they are, so we'll send Vlelissa out to check
that
LOCAL LAW PROPOSALS
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19 AugustlO, 1998
Mr. Orlowski: Proposed Local Law in Relation to a Temporary Moratorium on
the Issuance of Approvals and/or Permits for Business Zoned property along
the County Road 48 Corridor in the Town of SouthoId. The Town Board has
asked for our comments. ~
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, t'd like to offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS the proposed Local Law in Relation to a ~'emporary Moratorium on
the issuance of Approvals and/or permits for business zoned property along
County Route 48 within the Town of Southold will e~nable the Town to take
sufficient measure of the best long-range strategy for managing growth,
and will enable the Town to make use of necessar~ statistical and policy
information that will be forthcoming from pending istudies of the
groundwater and drinking water supplies and the transportation network.,
Therefore, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Southold Towni Planning Board hereby
recommends proceeding with the proposed Temperary Moratorium.
Mr. Cremers: Second that motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Ortowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Crem~rs.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. I have nothing left on my agenda. If
anybody wants to make a comment on the public rheeting part, do so now
or else we will adjourn and go into a work session Where you can all talk. No
comments? Do we have a motion to adjourn?
Mr. Ward: So moved.
Mr. Cremers: Second
Mr. Ortowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Cremers.
Mr, Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting
adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
Sour:hold Town Planning Board 20 August '1 O, '1998
Ben~ett Orlc~s'[J,~J?, Chairma'n
Respectfully submitted,
Martha A. Jones
Secretary
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
TH~ SOUTHOLD TOWTN CLERK
DATE 9/; ~ HOUR
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