HomeMy WebLinkAboutPB-05/24/1999PLANNING BOARD MEMBE~
BENNETT ORLOWSKI, JR.
Chairman
WILLIAM J. CREMERS
KENNETH L. EDWARDS
GEORGE RITCHIE LATHAM, JR.
RICHARD G. WARD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-3136
Telephone (516) 765-1938
PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
MINUTES
May 24, '1999
Present were:
Bennett Orlowski, Jr., Chairman
Richard G. Ward
G. Ritchie Latham
Kenneth Edwards
William Cremers
Melissa Spiro, Planner
Robert G Kassner, Site Plan Reviewer
Martha Jones, Secretary
Absent:
Valerie Scopaz, Town Planner
Mr. Orlowski: Good evening. 'd like to call this meeting to order. The first
order of business, Board to set Monday, June 14, 1999 at 7:30 p.m. at
Southold Town Hall, Main Rd., Southold, as the time and place for the next
regular Planning Board meeting.
Mr. Edwards: So moved
Mr. Cremers: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. 'Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Mr. Orlowski: 7:30 p.m - The Old Barge Restaurant - This proposed site plan
is for a 1,308 square foot expansion of an existing restaurant. SCTM# I000-
56-6-8.5. Is there anyone here that has any comments on this?
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Carol Densen: I'm Carol Densen and have the plan in before the Planning
Board. And just a little bit of history I would like to share with you how we've
gotten to submit the plans to you tonight. Back in 1938 my parents bought
the property that the Barge is located on today. And they brought the
Barge in, in about 1946 and many of you I'm sure are aware that it was a U.S.
ammunition barge from World War II, that over the years it changed from a
fish market into a restaurant, and has been run by my parents for a number
of years and then has been leased out to a variety of tenants since about
1961.
My mother had been running the business end of it until 1994 when I
assumed responsibility. She was 81 at that time and we kind of thought
maybe she could take a little relief from the business operation. And at that
point I had a couple of goals established. The main mission was to really
keep the property in the family as much as we could and in doing that there
were three main goals that we look to establish - and this is with my siblings
and my mother who is still living.
One was to preserve the land, and we've been able to do that. We've
bulkheaded that property, had permits for a number of years, but we did
complete that last year.
The second one is to preserve the building. And that's the stage we're at at
this point. The roof needs to be repaired, has been patched since 1946 and
has never been replaced. And at this point it needs to be replaced.
The third goal is to preserve the business. The business and the building are
intertwined of course. In terms of looking at what our options are in terms
of the roof, I consulted with Mr. Jim Nelson who is with me tonight, he is an
architect who was trained at Cornell University and is licensed in New York
State, to help me look at what are our options to keep this as a viable family
business. And in doing that, looking at the New York State building code we
realized that we could raise the roof and put a small mezzanine on the
building. And that's basically the plan that we're bringing forward to you at
this point.
We have gone through the set of approvals required by the Planning Board.
The Health Department has approved the plan, the Trustees, the Army Corp
of Engineers is not interested in what we're doing. I'm trying to remember
who else was on that list. The Architectural Review Committee has reviewed
the plans and we're at the point of submitting it for your approval to
hopefully go ahead to the next step. And Mr. Nelson is here to answer any
questions that you might have about the specifics of the design. Thank you.
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May 24, 1999
Jim Nelson: Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I'm Jim Nelson. I'm an
architect and friend of Dr. Densen and her husband Dr. Densen and have had
the wonderful pleasure of working with them previously. One of the things
that we would like to do in replacing the roof is to make it a more attractive
structure. I'm sure all of you know of the Old Barge. I have photographs of
it here tonight if you would like to see them again to refresh your memory.
It's a very iow slope roof structure. Most of the mechanical equipment and
ductwork is exposed on the roof. Over the years the original roof has leaked
and it's no wonder with all the ductwork and penetrations.
In trying to make it a more attractive structure for Southold, we would like to
put a much more steeply pitched roof on the structure as the drawings have
indicated to you, and then add dormers coming out of the roof structure.
That way we will gain one third of the face base which is allowed by the New
York State code and your code in Southold for a mezzanine.
In doing that, we will have a stair and a ramp so that we will have egress that
will meet fire safety standards and comply with those particular code issues.
One of the issues that has arisen I understand, from the Architectural Review
Committee was a question about the windows that we have at either gable
end of the structure. And we had divided like windows but they followed
the slope of the roof because it's a very steeply pitched roof we had
windows that went up that would follow the roof line with the cathedral
ceiling on the interior. And we thought that would be an attractive amenity
to the building, and that's the reason why we had done that.
We still feel that that's a good idea. It emphasizes, we think, the qualities of
the steeply pitched roof and would make it a lot more attractive structure in
the long run. We intend to comply fully with the types of materials that are
currently in use at the Barge. The German lap siding that's painted blue, we
will follow that. The windows which are trimmed in white, we will follow
that. We will utilize a heavily textured roof shingle for the shingles along the
roof. And all in all we think that it will be a much better building that will
help and enhance the appearance of Southold. I'll be glad to answer any
questions that you may have.
Mr. Orlowski: Any other comments? If there are no comments are there any
questions from the Board? Mr. Ward?
Mr. Ward: No.
Mr. Orlowskh Mr. Latham?
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Mr. Latham: No.
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Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Cremers?
Mr. Cremers: No.
Mr. Orlowski: Mr. Edwards?
Mr. Edwards: None.
Mr. Orlowski: If there are no further questions, I'll entertain a motion to close
the hearing.
Mr. Edwards: So moved.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, the C.D. Reiter Partnership is the owner of the property known
and designated as The Old Barge Restaurant, located at Old Main Rd. in
Arshamomaque, SCTM# '1000-56-6-8.5 & 8.6; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was
submitted on November 2, 'lgg8
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (6NYCRR), Part 617, makes a
determination that this project is a Type II action and not subject to the
provisions of the State Environmental Quality Review Act, (SEQRA); and
WHEREAS, the final public hearing was closed on May 24, 199g; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
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approval on the surveys dated August 6, '] 998, and authorize the Chairman
to endorse the final surveys subject to fulfillment of the following conditions.
These conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of this
resolution:
Certification by the Building Inspector.
Submission of requested architectural review data for Planning Board
review.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Odowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. Kassner: Mr. Chairman, may I make a comment? The one condition has
already been met. We received the certification from the Building
Department late this afternoon. The second one was, as your architect
pointed out was the windows. And I had called him and asked him to call the
Architectural Review to see if we could reach some kind of agreement. I
haven't had any feedback on that.
Mr. Nelson: I called. I haven't gotten any feedback either.
Mr. Kassner: I see. So that's a minor issue and that should be resolved
shortly.
Hearings Held Over From Previous Meetings:
Mr. Orlowski: Eleanor Sievernich - This minor subdivision is for 2 lots on
3.7648 acres located on the east side of Cox Neck Rd. in MattituCk.
SCTM# 1000-I 13-8-5. I guess litigation is still pending: What,s the pleasure
of the Board on this one?
Mr. Ward: Mr: Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution.
BE IT RESOLVED to hold the hearing open due to litigation pending in the
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Supreme Court. The next Planning Board meeting is scheduled for June '14,
'1999 at 7:30 p.m.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Aisc, Mr. Salvatore has asked for the hearing to be held open
too, so both parties have agreed. Motion made and seconded. All those in
favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Mr. OrlowsKi: Richard Reinhardt - This minor subdivision is for 3 lots on
20.3995 acres. Proposed lot #'1 is for ~ 6.6060 acres of which the
development rights have been sold on '14 6060 acres. The proposed
subdivision is located on the northeast side of Alvah's Lane, 2873 feet north
of Main Rd. in Cutchogue. SCTM# '1000-'102-4-5. This hearing is held open
believe everything right now is all in order to close the hearing. It's been
held open since December 14, '1998. I'll entertain a motion to close the
hearing, unless anybody would like to make a comment before we dose the
hearing.
Gall Wickham: May I make just a very brief comment? We are here with
Health Department approval several months after we first told you that we
anticipated it. Certainly we're glad to have it and I apologize for it taking
longer than we expected. I think the C&R's we've submitted to you
regarding no visual obstruction from Alvah's Lane and construction of
driveway aprons. We did fax you this afternoon a letter requesting waiver of
a firewell I'd like to submit the original with a correction in that the actual
anticipated expenditure for that firewell would be over S'14,000, rather than
the SI0,000.
So, i'm awaiting your advice on that issue and the other conditions of what
we hope will be the conditional final approval We're ready to submit mylars
and prints for signature Thank you.
Mr. Orlowski: Have you met with the fire district?
Richard Reinhardt: In Highland Estates, there's only one firewell ~n that whole
subdivision. So they feel that it's the responsibility of the developer to install
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a firewell. I somewhat object to it because I'm not creating any roads. They
already service that cul-de-sac that's up there. They say if water is going in
they'd waive it, but until they find out what Suffolk County Water Authority
(SCWA) is going to do, they don't want to spend taxpayer's money. After
contacting SCWA, they have no intentions of going up that subdivision in the
near future, so I don't understand why they have a moratorium if SCWA is
not going to go up there.
Plus the location of the firewell that I would put in really wouldn't be as
advantageoUs as if it was further into the Highland subdivision. I'm going to
be on the fringes of the subdivision.
Mr. Orlowski: Have you discussed that with them?
Mr. Reinhardt: I have.
' 'e
Mr. Orlowski: There have been different Qmes when they v agreed to,
instead of taking the total to take a share of the cost. I've seen that before.
Mr. Reinhardt: Which I'm not opposed to.
Mr. Orlowski: We've never overridden any of these in the past or waived the
firewell since it is a safety issue. At this time we're ready to approve it
subject to that as one of the conditions, but if you go back and talk to them,
they have in the past...if there's so many lots up there and you only have
two of them, I think that might be worth pursuing. Because they have done
that.
Mr. Reinhardt: I'm going to have to talk to them.
Mr. Orlowski: OK. Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded to close the
hearing. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. EdWards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. What,s the pleasure of the Board?
Mr. Ward: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, Richard Reinhardt is the owner of the property known and
designated as SCTM# 1000-102-4-5, lOcated on Alvah's Lane in Cutchogue;
and
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WHEREAS, this minor subdivision, to be known as minor subdivision for
Richard Reinhardt, is for 3 lots on 20.3995 acres; and
WHEREAS, proposed lot #I is for a total of 16.6060 acres, of which the
development rights have been sold to the Town on 14.6060 acres; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (Article 8), Part 617, declared itself lead
agency and issued a Negative Declaration on November 16, 1998; and
WHEREAS, a final public hearing was closed on said subdivision application at
the Town Hall, Southold, New York on May 24, 1999; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Chapter 58,
Notice of Public Hearing, has received affidavits that the applicant has
complied with the notification provisions; and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Subdivision Regulations of the Town of
Southold will have been met upon fulfillment of the following conditions; be
it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
approval on the surveys dated April 12, 1999, and authorize the Chairman to
endorse the fina surveys subjec~ to fulfillment of the following conditions.
All conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of this
resolution:
The Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions must be revised in
accordance with condition Number 2 below, and must be recorded
the Gounty Clerk's office. A copy of the recorded document just be
submitted to this office.
The Cutchogue Fire District, in a letter dated November 15, 1998,
recommended that a fire well be installed for the subdivision. The
location of the fire well must be indicated on the final subdivision
map. The fire well must be installed by the developer, and conveyed
to the Fire District, prior ~o the issuance of any building permits for
the lots within the subdivision. The condition in regard [o the issuance
of building permits must be included in the Declaration of Covenants
and Restrictions.
The Park and Playground fee of S6,000.00 (S2,000.00 per vacant lot)
must be submitted.
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Final maps (five paper copies and two mylars) must be submitted. All
maps must contain the liber and page number of the recorded
Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions and a valid stamp of Health
Department approval.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowsld: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
MAJOR AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, LOT LINE CHANGES AND SET OFF
APPLICATIONS
Setting of Final Hearings:
Mr. Orlowski: BabalJs-Hartofilis - This lot line change is to subtract 1.18 of an
acre from a 2.55 acre parcel, SCTM# 1000-21-4-14 and add it to a 0.29 acre
parcel, SCTM# 1000-21-4-9; and to subtract I A7 of an acre from the same
2.35 acre parcel and add it to a 0.41 acre parcel, SCTM# I000-31-2-3.
SCTM# 1000-21-4-9 & 14 and 31-2-3. I'll enteffcain a motion in regards to
the SEQRA.
Mr. Latham: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer this.
BE IT RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the
State Environmental Quality Review Act, do an uncoordinated review of this
unlisted action. The Planning Board establishes itself as lead agency, and as
lead agency makes a determination of non-significance, and grants a Negative
Declaration.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowskh Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. 0rlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
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Motion carried. And a motion for setting the
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Mr. Odowski: Opposed?
hearing?
Mr. Latham: Further, be it resolved that the Southold Town Planning Board set
Monday, June 14, 1999 at 7:30 p.m. for a final public hearing on the maps dated
March 11, 1999.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Odowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Oriowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
Sketch Determinations:
Mr. Orlowski: Deerfield Farm - This application is for a lot line change and a
minor subdivision, The lot line change is to subtract 0,569 acres from an
existing 7.931 acre parcel and to add it to an existing 0.34 acre parcel
(SCTM# 1000-88-I-2). The minor subdivision is for 4 lots on 7.362 acres.
The property is located on the northwest corner of Main Bayview Road and
Jacobs Lane. SCTM# 1000-88-I-1 and 2.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board has accepted the Yield Map
dated March 16, 1999, showing a total of 4 hots and a 0.575 acre area to be
merged with an adjacent parcel owned now or formerly by Patdcia E. Katz;
and
WHEREAS, the proposed application is for both a lot line change and a
clustered minor subdivision; and
WHEREAS, the proposed lot line change is to Subtract 0:569 acres from an
existing 7.931 acre parCel and to add it to an existing 0.34 acre parcel
(SCTM# 1000-88-1-2); and
WHEREAS, the proposed minor subdivision is a clustered subdivision of 4 lots
on 7.362 acres (the area of the parcel after the lot line change); be it
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therefore,
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RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board start the lead agency
coordination process on this unlisted action.
Mr. Latham: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
In addition, be it further resolved that the Southold Town Planning Board
grant sketch approval on the map dated May 3, 1999 with the following
conditions:
1. The following restrictions must be contained in a Declaration of
Covenants and Restrictions:
a. There shall be no further subdivision of any lot, in perpetuity.
b. The 75 foot Scenic Easement, which is shown on the minor
subdivision plan, is to remain in its natural state.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any quesl~ions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
SITE PLANS
Mr. Orlowski: Chuck's Fiberglass Service - This proposed site plan is for the
construction of a 440 square foot addition to an existing office and
repair building. SCTM# 1000-85-3-5.1.
Mr. Cremers: Mr. Chairman, I'll offer the following resolution.
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WHEREAS, Charles Van Duzer is the owner of the property known and
designated as SCTM# 1000-85-3-5.1, located on Main Rd. in Peconic; and
WHEREAS, a formal application for the approval of this site plan was
submitted on May 3, 1999; and
WHEREAS, this approval is for the construction of a 440 square foot addition
to an existing office and work shop; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, acting under the State
Environmental Quality Review Act, (6NYCRR), Part 6t7, makes a
determination that this project is a Type II action and not subject to the
provisions of the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA); and
WHEREAS, all the requirements of the Site Plan Regulations of the Town of
Southold have been met; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grant conditional final
approval on the surveys dated January 22, 1999, and authorize the Chairman
to endorse the surveys subject to fulfillment of the following conditions.
These conditions must be met within six (6) months of the date of this
resolution:
Certification by the Building Inspector.
Review of Architectural Review Committee comments by Planning
Board.
Mr. Edwards: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
SITE PLANS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
AdOpt Findings Statement:
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Mr. Orlowski: Beachcomber Motel I!- This proposed site plan is for the
construction of 42 additional units on a 48.2 acre parcel which contains an
existing motel with 36 units, 3 apartments and a restaurant.
SCTM# 1000-83-2-1, 2 & 17.
Mr. Edwards: Mr. Chairman, I'd like to offer the following resolution:
WHEREAS, the Planning Board conducted an environmental review of the
aforesaid described site as a contiguous entity; and
WHEREAS, the Statement of Findings pertains to a 42 unit expansion
(representing a reduction of 4 motel units from the original application) on
three subject parcels, which total 48.2 acres; be it therefore
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby adopts the
Statement of Findings dated 24 May, 1999.
Mr. Cremers: Second the motion.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. Any questions on the motion? All
those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. EdWards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Mr. Orlowski: Board to approve the May 3, 1999 minutes.
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Ward: Second.
Mr. Orlowski: Motion made and seconded. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried. I have nothing left on my agenda, If
anyone would like to put something on the record we can hold this meeting
open or I'll entertain a motion to close and we'll have a work session after,
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where you can all say what you feel
Mr. Latham: So moved.
Mr. Orlowski: 'Il second t that. All those in favor?
Ayes: Mr. Orlowski, Mr. Ward, Mr. Latham, Mr. Edwards, Mr. Cremers.
Mr. Orlowski: Opposed? Motion carried.
May 24, 1999
There being no further business To come before the Board, the meeting
adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
--~'~?~Be-~h e~t O ~l'ows ~~r~
Respectfully submitted,
Martha A. Jones
Secretary
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOT.D TOWN CLERK
Town Clerk, Town o[' Southold