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Southold Town Planning Board
SDUTHDLD. L. I., N. Y.
PLANNI!'G BOARD
MEMBERS
John Wickham, Chairman
Henry Mois5
Alfred Grebe
Archibald Young
Willillm Unkelboch
JOINT MEETING
December 10, 1963
Notes taken at a joint meeting held December 10, 1963
at the Village Hall, Greenport, New York, between the SJuthold
Town Board, Greenport Village Board, Southold Town Planning
Board, Greenport Village Planning Board, Southold Town Board
of Appeals, Southold Town Clerk, Southold Board of Assessors,
Greenport Assessor, Southold Town Building Inspector, Southold
Town Attorney, Greenport village Attorney, and John Diffigos
from the New York state Department of Commerce, Albany, New York.
The meeting was opened at 7:40 P.M. by Supervisor Albertson
who reviewed the purpose of the meeting and reason for those
present. He then introduced Mr. Diffigos of the Department of
Commerce, Bureau of Planning, state of New York, who called on
John Wickham to review the program so far. and he gave an out-
line of what is expected to be done.
Mr. Wickham stated that he has a proposal to do a complete
water survey from Malcolm Pirnie in the amount of $5,000 maximum,
and he has a proposal from Cornell, State college of Agriculture
of about $25,000 without professors salaries. The Town share to
be about $10,000.
Mr. Diffigos inquired as to subdivision regulations, zoning
ordinance, building codes, etc. He was informed of both the
TOwn and Village setup. He explained the duties of the Planning
Board of the Village and Town and stated that subdivision regula-
tions and plat approval is essential to 701 Funds. They should
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have operating by-laws or rules, regular meetings with complete
minutes, etc.
Mr. Diffigos spoke on the phases of Master Planning.
1. Basic studies; 2. Planning phase; 3. Implementation-
regulatory means. He enumerated all of the things that are
included in 701. 701 does not do detailed studies on all
phases. studies will consider services rendered and not available,
quality of housing, etc. Amount of detail will be left up to
what local boards want, and can be worked in. He said the
Planning Boards must cooperate closely with the consultant.
proposals for consultant: 1. Land use, 2. Plan for
highway, 3. The business areas, local and intense shopping
centers, etc., 4. Community facilities,-village hall, county
center, libraries, etc., 5. Public facilities,-water, sewer,
parks, dump, etc., 6. Capital improvement program (new legislation
6 year improvement plan budget), 7. Zoning ordinance, improvements
and amendments, 8. Subdivision regulations, road specifications,
9. Official map (master plans for future developments), 10. Public
relations - most important, local paper, service clubs, civic
associations, etc. This is the best asset.
Planning Assistance Program: 701 Section of Housing Act
1954, 1959,1961, N.Y. handled by Department of Commerce. Federal
government contracts with the state, State contracts planner on
local choice and for local share of fees. There must be Board
rules, must include all villages and town in one study. There
must be a coordination between the Village and Town. Must be
records, maps, etc. at all positions. The office space is to be
supplied by the locality. The time is approximately 24 months
maximum.
Application Procedure: 1. Preliminary meetings, 2.
Application to Department of Commerce. 3. State application
to Federal government. Federal pays ~ of the total, Local
1/6 and State 1/6. Expenses are: 1. Consultant fees, 2. Adminis-
tration costs, Federal auditing cost. Community must interview
at least three consultants, and the local choice of approved
consultants will be taken. This also applies to sub-contract
of the job. The community should interview the man who is to
do the actual work, or the staff who will do the work.
They should interview the prospective planners the same as for
a doctor or attorney or other personal professional services.
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JOHN WICKHAM: Must we interview three consultants? We
are second in agriculture and few consultants are qualified to
do this work. How long can we take on the project?
MR. DIFFIGOS: We try to advise applicant and consultant
whether consultant can handle the job. Have both boards been
present? Are both satisfied with the one chosen? We must be
sure of the scope of the problems.
MR. GILLISPIE: HOW do you arrive at the size of the fee?
~r. Gillispie spoke about the Zoning Commission and its problems.l
MR. DIFFIGOS: Good land use maps are necessary and $6500
would be a high figure for their cost. The zoning map would be
higher in cost.
MR. GILLISPIE: In your opinion would it be better if you
planned to live here after it is done or not? Some local people
don't want to cooperate in future planning.
MR. DIFFIGOS: We can have a static planar future planning.
Each can be amended. (He explained how to check and use available
information.) The consultant should advise how to use the plan.
It is up to the governing boards to use the plan as provided.
You can zone as tight as you want to control everything.
MR. WICKHAM: We have a balance between farms, summer
trade, fishing, etc. This will probably be upset in the future
without good planning. (Mr. Wickham told of the Cornell proposal
and water supply possibilities.
MAYOR LEVINE: Planning should discard what we don't like
and encourage what we do like. Can the consultant hire advisors?
MR. DIFFIGOS: Yes.
MAYOR LEVINE: We have a deep harbor, the best in the east.
Whatuse can we make of this? We should encourage a similar type
business as we had in the past. Fresh water is a problem. I
recently visited the State Atomic Board and a representative of
Allis Chalmers. regarding water and electric power. A 230,000
gallon water supply a day is proposed now for this area. What
are we doing for the economic future of our children. we must
do something on this.
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SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: Not many here know the latest
proposal, the atomic conversion plant can be put in the Moores
woods area. The danger area for this plant is a radius of 750
feet.
Is the next step to pick a planner?
MR. DIFFIGOS: Write a letter to the Department of
Commerce giving the name of the planner and tell what areas
are to be emphasized in the study. Now the State must have
a res1ution whereby the Planning Board was created and granted
plat authority for both Town and village. Send this letter to
Charles Crangle, Bureau of planning. Local funds must be
available and appropriated. X dollars must be available for
this project and on hand, but ask attorney for advice on the
special fund and methods of handling this fund. It must be
available at all times and is payable at the end of the project.
SUPERVISOR ALBERTSON: What do you believe our cost will be?
MR. DIFFIGOS: I won't guess. The range is $20,000 to
$40,000 depending on the consultant youselect.
MR. GILLISPIE: Why does the Federal Government get in this?
MR. DIFFIGOS: It is basically a"pump priming" project to
get improvements in local communities. (There was some discussion
on phases, operations, jobs, amount of detail, that can be done.)
The next stop is to pick your consultant, get a proposition ready
and have the contract meeting of village, Town, State and Consultant
to make final contract and application. (Pre-application meeting).
All applications are handled on a priority basis. There may be
a 4 month delay. usually 3 to 4 months. The U.S. Government
application is also priority and there is a possible 30 to 90
day delay. Three to six months for approval. We are usually
notified by telegram when approved.
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There must be two copies of the minutes of each monthly
meeting devoted entirely to the Master Plan.
Meeting adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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