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MASTER PLAN
October 13, 1965
A joint meeting on the Master Plan was held at the office
of the Supervisor, 16 South Street, Greenport, New York, on
Wednesday, October 13, 1965.
There were present: Messrs: John Sherwood, Dr. Leo GoldiD,
Harry Monsell, B. Van Popering, Jr., Henry Bunce, new member
of Village Planning Board; Harry Weinroth, Raymond and May;
John Deffigbs and Mr. Stoken, Department of Commerce; Ernest
Whitlock, Malcolm Pirnie Engineers; Councilman Louis Demarest,
Town attorney Robert Tasker, John Wickham, Henry Moisa,
Lawrence Tuthill, Professionsal engineer; and Howard Terry,
Building Inspector.
The meeting was opened by John Deffigios at 7:45 P.M..
The minutes of the last meeting were approved as sent out.
Mr. John Sherwood reported the Village Planning Board has
adopted their proposal for subdivision regulations. They were
sent to the Village Board and attorneys for their approval.
A hearing will be held on these regulations after the ~
Village Board takes action on them.
Mr. Weinroth distributed loose-leaf covers for each
member to keep monthly agendas, progress reports, notes,
memos, etc., for the entire project.
Copies of number three progress reports were distributed
together with copies of proposed subdivision regulations for
the Town of Southold. It was reoommended that the Planning
Board and the Town Attorney read them over and prepare their
comments for the next meeting. Several items were discussed,
such as, the duties of the highway superintendent, and the
construction inspector, etc.
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It was recommended that the Southold Town Board delegate
power to controll subdivisions on existing highways to the
Planning Board so that these subdividers will be required to
make all improvements that others are required to make. The
Town Attorney stated that this has been done in the recent
resolution passed by the Town Board prior to the entering
into work on the Master Plan. It was decided that the
Town Attorney and Mr. Weinroth will examine the proposed
regulations to check any legal questions. The Planning
Board will have recommendations for the next meeting on
November 10, 1965.
Mr. Diffigios stated they are having some legal phrasing
problems with the Cornell group on the use of their material
in drawing up contracts. No contracts have been signed yet,
pending settlement of this matter. The consultants and others
are working without pay until this matter is settled.
Mr. Whitlock explained his program and gave a progress
report to date. (copy of proposal attached.) proposal "A" is
Town financed, Proposal "B" is financed by "701" funds.
Mr. Whitlock also mentioned the possibility of getting
some State atomic and space agency funds (about $1,250.00) for
both Riverhead and Southold Towns to carry the water study
further in depth in connection with the proposed desalinazation
plant at the Riverhead/Southold Town line area. John Wickham
discussed this proposal. He has been in on all of the
discussions with the atomic commission and the Supervisor.
They are now proposing a flexible plant that can be expanded
in storage from one million gallons to five million gallons
per day,output of feesh water, instead of the one million
maximum originally proposed.
Mr. Harry Monsell (retired Superintendent of utilities
in the village of Greenport) again reviewed the possibilities
of developing Laurel Lake area water shed as source of supply
of water for the western part of Town. Mr. Whitlock stated
that this is to be part of his water resource report and will
be checked out throughly. He will meet with the Supervisor
and the Monsells on October 14, 1965, in themorning.
Mr. weinroth stated he expected Professor Caroll of Cornell
to be present at the meeting tonight, however he will have
their representative at the next meeting on November 10th.
Mr. Weinroth distributed agenda sheets for meeting up to
February, 1966.
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There was a lenghty general discussion held on water.
Topics discussed were rainfall, drainage, runoff, darning
and draining swamps, soil types, irrigation use, etc. Also
discussion was held on holding open areas, XKKKXXX; agriculture,
leases, easement rights, parks, public areas, etc.
The matter of the State Highway Department running storm
water into creeks, bays, etc., instead of into recharge basins
was brought up. It was agreed more pressure should be put
on State Engineers to stop this practice.
Mr. Whiclock stated he wants to see these drainage
projects and run-offs during a moderate to heavy rain storm.
He was assured that someone would take him on a tour of the
Town any time he was available to go.
The next joint meeting on the Master Plan will be held
on Wednesday, November 10, 1965, at the office of the Supervisor,
16 South Street, Greenport, New York, at 7:30 P.M.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Howard Terry, Acting Secretary
MALCOLM PIRNIE ENGINEERS
New York, New York 10036
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October 13, 1965
MEMORANDUM
INVESTIGATION OF GROUND WATER SITUATION IN
THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD IN CONNECTION WITH
THE URBAN PLANNING ASSISTANCE (701) PROGRAM
The function of Malcolm Pirnie Engineers in connection with
the Southold Urban Planning Assistance (701) Program is confined
to investigation and studrees related to water supply conditions
in the Town, and the availability of ground water to provide
the water supply needs of various types of development proposed
by others. The services are divided into two parts covered by
our Proposal "A" to the Town of Southold for "non-701" services
and our Proposal "B" to the Bureau of Planning, Department of
Planning of the State of New York for services eligible under the
Proposed 701 program for Southold.
Our services under Proposal "A" comprises, in general, collecting
information as to character and extent of ground water in Southold.
It includes field investigations and tests of the soml which over-
lays the upper sand and gravel fresh ground water reservoir which
exist throughout the Town of Southold. This work was commenced
last fall by investigaEing surface topography and soil com~retions
in the Town, collecting and testing samples of types of soils
which overlies the sand and gravel and by collecting information
as to existing wells in the Town particularly the various wells
whihh supply Greenport with water. A review of existing ground
water studies and reports related to ground.ater conditions in
Suffolk County and in the Town of Southold also was commenced.
These investigations and studies will be continued in connection
with our services under Proposal B which will be coordinated
with and directly related to the 701 Urban Planning Program.
The services of Malcolm Pirnie Engineers under Proposal
B include the following:
(a) Estimate present water use in various parts of the town.
(b) Estimate amount of water that can be removed safely from
the ground within various sections of theTown.
(c) Furnish to the Planning Consultants, estimates of
probable waeer consumption and effect on ground water reservoir
of various types of land uses including: agriculture, residential
of various degrees of density, commerce and industry.
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(d) Evaluate alternative land use proposals prepared by
Planning Consultants in terms of effect on ground water levels
and water consumption requirements.
(e) Review of preliminary findings with others as required and
prepareJa report couering our investigations, findings and conclusions.
Consideration also will be given to the availability of
water supplies, other than from local ground water sources such
as the desalinization plant proposed for construction at a site
immediately adjacent to the western boundary of SSouthold.
MALCOLM PIRNIE ENGINEERS