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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/21/1967 " . . Southold Town Planning Board SDUTHDLD, L. I., N. Y. 11971 PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS John Wickham, Chairman Henry Molsa Alfred Grebe William Unkelbach Frank Coyle M.!.N.!!TE~ SPECIAL MEETING ON lIlBE MASTER PLAN February 21, 1967 A special meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board was held at the Town Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, on TueSday, February 21, 1967, at 7:30 P.M. There were present: Messrs: John Wickham, Chairman; William Unkelbach, Frank Coyle, Supervisor Lester Albertson, Alvah Gold- smith, Chairman Town Trustees; Howard Terry, Building Inspector. John Wickham opened the meeting and copies of memorandas received from Raymond & May Associates today were distributed to all present. These memos were on population potentials as discussed at the Master Plan meeting on February IS, 1967. The proposed "land use Zone" map also sent by Raymond and May was laid out for review and discussion. This map had their proposals for industrial areas, marinas, "wetlands" preservation areas, busmness areas, parks, existing, enlarged and new parks, some motel districts, street improvement, new express highway and several classes of residential districts shown on it. The map was gone over carefully by everyone present, and the proposal to develop residentially most of the area south of Route 25 with small lots and publiC water was not well received. After a long look and considerable discussion it was agreed that the "undeveloped open areas" in this section generally south of Route 25 and along the Sound shore front should be held to one acre lots without public water and one half acre with public water. . . Southold Town Planning Board -2- February 21, 1967 It seemed to be hard to justify small lots on one side of a street and as much as three acress on the other side of the same street. After further discussion it was decided to "key mark" the map with numbers and a corresponding list of usggestions to forwa~d to Raymond & May associates for a compromise revision of this map. This will contain all suggestions agreed on tonight. There was some discussion about development of Robbins Island. All present felt it should be continued "as is" if possible. If it must be changed at all it should be limited to a "private club" with facilities for members only. "Open farm areas" were discussed as to the possibility of maintaining them in agriculture, the amount of irrigation water used nww and the possible future use of said water, also the possibilities of two and three acre zoning in these areas and the possibility of holding these areas by "contract restricti. ons" or open area program. There was quite some discussion on "contract restrictions", how they operate and where they are presently being used. The question of land speculators getting in on such a pro- gram was brought up for discussion. It was generally agreed that they should not get in the same program as farmers who own and operate farms for a living. Possibly one of the alternate "open area" programs could be adapted to this land. The following items by number were noted with comments or recommendations: 1. Eliminate this park area - put in one acre zone class residential district. 2. Make this a one acre residential aone. 3. The proposed park should include all meadow lands south of Route 25 and east of Narrow River Road, but the best farmland should be kept in agriculture. 4. No dredging of creeks, meadows, etc. in this entire area. 5. Must be two acre zone without publiC water and one acre with public water. 6. To be park area. . . Southold Town Planning Board -3- February 21, 1967 7. Two acre zone without public water and one acre zone with public water. (includes lands in item 3 also). 8. One acre zone without water, one half acre with public water. 9. Eliminate indus~rial district and make this a one acre zone. 10. Two acre without public water or one acre with water zone. 11. Eliminate Marina - make it as item 8 above. 12. Make Marina and public beach. 13. Eliminate park and make as item 8 above. 14. Show airport to be public in future and improved. 15. 12,500 square feet and 100 feet wide with water; 20,000 square feet without water. 16. Eliminate Industrial District - put in class 7 as above. 17. Consider some industrial area here to hook up with Riverhead Town' s Industrial park to the west. There was a long discussion on dredging creek meadows and creek channels;~ the loss of fresh water by doing this and the possibility of holding back the fresh water supply and fresh water run off by ~ikes at the head of some creeks as recommended by Mr. Whitlock of Malcolm Pirnie Engineers who are doing the water survey. There was some discussion on the planned "pilot project" at Smith-Wells-Howell area in Pine Neck. Several methods of dikeing this area was discussed. The trustees want to be present next time Mr. Whitlock comes to a Master Plan meeting so they can discuss dredging and bog removal with him. They are to be notified of his next appearance. , . . " Southold TownPlanning Board -4- February 21. 1967 After much discussion it policy would be to open creek disturb "wetlands" or meadows than is absolutely necessary. "bog" to make sand beaches on permitted. was agreed that the Town's channels as necessary but not to or "natural bottom" any more No new "canals" or removal of creek front property will be There was quite some discussion on rainfall and water use; both on farms and residential lots. the per centage returned to the under ground water pool and preserving the "run off water". etc. It was agreed that residential lot owners use more than "their share" of rainfall so that in "intensely built up areas". public water must be supplied soon. Therefore. the larger the lots are made the less demand for public water will be necessary. The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Planning Board will be held Wednesday. March 7, 1967, at 7:30 P.M.. at the Southold Town Offic~. Main Road, Southold, New York. The next regular meeting on the Master Plan will be held at 7:30 P.M.. Wednesday. March 8. 1967. at the Office of the Supervisor. 16 South Street. Greenport, New York. The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 P.M. Respectfully submitted, "it' --' , " ,-' ''-''-~\e f ~A"-! Ci~- K., L>-- Howard Terry. Secretary Pro m