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"Informal Minutes"
Special Meeting at supervisor's Office
11:00 A.M., Wednesday, October 1, 1969
A special meeting of Town Officials of Southold and Shelter
Island Towns was called by Southold Town Supervisor Albert M.
Martocchia, to meet with the Suffolk County Sewer Agency and
their consulting engineers - Bowe, Walsh & Associates of Hunt-
ington, N.Y., for a discussion of the Sewer Agency Study being
done for the 5 eastern Towns.
Present were: Evans Griffing-Supervisor Shelter Island Townl
John Wickham, Chairman-Southold Town Planning Boardl Robert W.
Gillispie, Jr., Chairman-Southold Town Board of Appeals and
member of the Suffolk County Planning Commissionl Lawrence Tuthill
P.E.-Southold Town Planning Board Engineerl Herbert Davids and
James Pim of the Suffolk County Health Dept.l Louis P. DiMatteo
P.E. of Bowe, Walsh & Associatesl Bruce Matzner of the Suffolk
County Sewer AgencYl and Howard Terry-Building Inspector, Town
of Southold.
Supervisor Martocchia opened the meeting by introducing all
those who were present and asked to be excused as he was conducting
a special Town Board meeting in his private office.
By unanimous acclamation Supervisor Griffing was selected
to be Chairman of this meeting.
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Mr. DiMatteo of Bowe. Walsh & Associates reviewed his firm's
work in the study done for the Sewer Agency in the 5 western towns
to date and the problems they have encountered - including the
voting down of the required bond issue.
He reviewed the plans of the N.Y. State Pure Waters Conunission
and their requirements for financial aid from the State.
The older and inadequate sewer systems will be acquired by the
County Conunission and improved and coordinated into the County System
as soon as possible.
They are reconunending 5 seperate districts for the western
Towns. most of the planning expenses to date have been paid through
a state grant and must be completed within the year. A lot of the
work has been done by aerial photos with topographical survey at
5 ft. elevations. this has been in process for 7 years now and some
progress has been made by arranging to take over some of the existing
sewer plants.
Herbert Davids. Suffolk County Health Department. stated that
the State Sewer Planning Program is under health dept. controll in
Suffolk County both western and eastern towns~ and they may use
aerial maps now being made by Michael Baker Co. in the County Tax
Map Program as they have topographical readings.
Generally sewers are required where there are 5 or more people
per acre or where industrial waste~1must be treated. Most of eastern
L.:I. has good subsoil drainage which leads to contamination of the
ground water supply.
Mr. Gillispie reviewed present zoning regulations and density
of population also the proposed changes in Southold Town zoning.
Supervisor Griffing stated that they have 1 acre zoning and
many houses using the same wells and cesspools for over 50 years
without problems. some for much longer periOds of time and saw
no immediate need for sewers or public water on Shelter :Island.
Mr. DiMatteo stated that the zoning of an area sets the pattern
for the sewer plan. They try to "over design" for the forseable
future. the need for pumping stations is governed by the top~raphy.
Current estimates for 8" transit sewer lines installed is over $20.
per running foot.
John Wickham outlined the problem of sewers for Southold Town
with the intensive development along our 200 miles of creeks and
inlets where both sides are built up residentially and which will
need many pumping stations or possibly several treatment planus
as this is mostly low level land.
:It is the hope and plan of the Planning Board that larger lots
and publiC water in these areas may hold off installing sewers for
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many years - possibly 20 to 40 years.
Mr. DiMatteo reviewed the Greenport Sewer System to date and the
proposed secondary treatment so that effluent can be pumped back into
the ground instead of running out into L.I. Sound. Also the need of
sewer lines in the "clay belt" surrounding the Greenport Village area
where there is no natural drainage.
JQhn Wickham r~eiewed our water study done by Malcolm Pirnie
Engineers and quoted some of the statistics from the report including
the fact that we loose several million gallons of fresh water by
natural "run off" each day which helps to flush out the "salt water
intrusion". sewerage seepage and other miscellaneous things that
collect in the top layer of our underground water supply.
There was a general discussion of possible development. tax base.
indus trial uses and problems. suburban development. salt water polution
etc; the probable agricultural use of water. the possible improvement
of shellfish industry and probable population increase.
Mr. Matzner of the Sewer Agency stated that they are to coordinate
all of the sewer districts activities and tie them together as an
operating unit; They can form sewer districts on the County level
for any or all developments.
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This lead to a discussion of installation i8 systems so they
could be tied together. financing such districts and the operation
and maintainance of these systems.
He stated that each developer would have to submit his plans
to the agency for approval before it was installed. and all weuld
be coordinated into the plan for that area.
Herbert Davids discussed 1 acre zoning for the eastern towns
and stated the County Health Dept. has approved this and will try
to have their code updated to 1 acre by the end of this month.
It was mutually agreed that an evening meeting with the Southold
Town Planning Board would be set up in the near future. as soon as
Bowe. Walsh & Associates and the sewer agency had more details of a
plan to discuss. Shelter Island would do the same when they are ready.
Meeting adjourned at 12:35 P.M.
Howard Terry. Secretary Pro Tem
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