HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-05/24/1984BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 728
Southold, New York 11971
May 24, 1984
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MINUTES-REGULAR MEETING
7:30 P.M.
The regular meeting of ~he Board o£ Town Trustees was
held on Thursday, May 24~ t984~at the Town Hall, Main Road,
Southo. ld.
Present were: President Henry P. Smith
Vice-President Jean~Cochran
Trustee Frank Kujawski
Trustee John Bednoski
Trustee John Bredemeyer
Ilene Pfifferling~ Secretary
President Smith calIed the meeting to order.
on motion made by TrusTee Cochran seconded bY Trustee~ Kujawski
and carried it was
RESOLVED :to APPROVE lhe minutes of the April 26, 1984 meeting
with the deletion of the statemeht, "Th~ Trustees questioned a
structure for a person named Dobert.' The Secretary advised that
this person has applied for a permit, which was granted over a
year ago."
Vote of Board: Ayes: Ail
On. motion made by Trustee Kujawski seconded-by Trustee Smith and
carried it was
RESOLVED to .APPROVE the Mooring renewal permits for the month of
July.
Vote of Board: Ayes: ~All
On. moTion made by Trustee Smith seconded by Trustee Kujawski it
was
RESOLVED that the date for the next regular meeting of this Board
will be held on Thursday, June 28, t984 at 7f30 P~M., inspections
will be held on Wednesday, June 27, 1984 at 2:00 P.M.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
Board of Town Trustees
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May 24, 1984
In the matter of the applic~on~of En-Consultants, Inc. for ,
Walter Trappe to construct~a~';~mb~ dock consisting of a 172+
x 4. fixed elevated (3 above grade) catwalk with rail, a 12'
x 4' hinged ramp with rail and-a~ i6" x 6' float secured by two
pilings in a canal off Corey Creek, Southold, Trustee Kujawski
stated, that all of the Trustees visited' the site on May 23, 1984.
The only difference about this is that the actual location of the
catwalk is not where it is indicated on the drawing. It's actually
more to the ...... actually a little right of center of the lot,
and I believe the owner also agreed with us that the float, rather
than being perpendicular to the shoreline, which would probably be
a navigational hazard, should be parallel to the shoreline,
brought back in as close to the shore, similiar to his neighbors
(Mr. Occhiogrosso); There was no objection to the rails, on the ramp
catwalk, as this was probably for safety reasons. The trustees
want a corrected diagram, reflecting the proper location of the
structure, £rom Mr. Haje.
On motion made by Trustee Kujawski seconded by Trustee Bredemeyer
it was
RESOLVED to APPROVE the application for Walter Trappe Submitted by
En-Consultants, Inc~ as amended to place the float parallel'to the
shoreline, brought back in as close to the shore and that Mr. Haje
submits a corrected--diagram-reflecting the new location.
Vote of Board: Ayes: Ali
EN-CONSULTANTS~ INC."FOR WALTER TRAPPE~WETI,AND APPLICATION NO. 198
On motion made by TruStee-Kujawski~seconded by Trustee Bredemeyer it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Board'APPROVAL of the application
submitted by Eh-Consultants, Inc. for Wa~ter~-Trappe to construct a
timber dock consisting of a 172+' x 4' fixed catwalk with rail, 12'
x 4' hinged ramp with rail, 16' x 6' float secured by two pilings
in a canal off Corer Creek, with the provision that ~he float~is
placed parallel to'%h~ shorelin~;~brOught~back in as'close to the
shore and the Mr.'Haje submits a corrected diagram, reflecting the
change'in location, as referenced above. -
Vote of Board: Ayes: Ai~ ~ -
GARRETT A. STRANG FOR MICHAEL DICARLO-WETLAND'APPLICATION NO.199
In the matter of the application of Garrett A. Strang for Michael
DiCarlo for a Wetland Application No. 199, to construct a~etaining
wall for the prevention of additional erosion to'the existi, ng natural
bluff, North side 0~"Calves Neck Road 958 feet e~st of Young~'Ave.
Southold, Trustee Bednoski stated that the Trustees~visited the site
on May 23, 1984. There was no sign of erosion', if this Were ~pproved
it would be the first one of this kind in the area and we didn't see
that this was necessary. We would like to see him replant in front to
restore the beach to its natural sSate raSher~than to construct this
retaining wall. Trustee Smith stated that t:he Trustees t'hought that
being there are~ no r~'aining Walls in thi~ area,.~it may put ~ -hardship
on the neighbors' ~n~%he area, and We deem it unnecessary.
Mr'. St~a~g~stated th~t~erosion, although minimal, appears to be
getting worse. The inten~ was to stem that ~r0sion by the
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placement of the retaining wall and terracing. Mr. Strang
indicated the erosion was from road-runoff. The trustees
suggested planting vegetation up on the bank. In the future
i~ the owner feels this is a problem t'he trustees would be happy
to take another look at the site.
On motion made by Trustee Bednoski seconded by Trustee Cochran it
was .
RESOLVED to recommend to The Town Board disapproval of the Wetland
Application No. 199 submitted by Garrett A. Stra~g for Michael
DiCarlo, without prejudice to future applications.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
ROBERT H. SMITH
On motion made by Trustee Smith seconded by Trustee Bednoski it
was
RESOLVED to APPROVE the mooring application for Robert H. Smith
to place a 200 lb. mushroom mooring in Town Creek, Southold,
access is from private property, a letter of permission has
been submitted with the application;.from Mr. Arthur Giella owner
of property, with the provision that the boat will not swing into
the channel or impede navigation.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
COSTELLO MARINE CONTRACTING CORP. FOR JAMES B. FORD
In the matter of the application of Costello Marino Contracting
Corp. on behalf of James B. Ford to construct approximately 75'.
of bulkhead directly in front o'f existing bulkhead which has
deteriorated in Town Creek, Trustee Bredemeyer stated that the
trustees surveyed the referenced site and it was the general
accord on this that'the decision on this should be consistent
with the one that was granted on the Goldsmith application and
that was approval in front of the existing bulkhead, with the
provision that in the future, replacement is done in place.
On motion made by T~ustee Bredemeyer seconded by Trustee Cochran
it was
RESOLVED To APPROVE the application of Costello Marine Contracting
Corp~ for James B. Ford all in accordance with the application
submitted~, with the provision that in the future, replacement must
be done in place.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
COSTELLO MARINE CONTRACTING CORP.. FOR JAMES.'B. FORD-WETLAND'APP. NO. 201
motion made by Trus~ee~Bredemeyer seconded by Trustee Cochran it
was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Board APPROVAL of the Wetland
Application No. 201 submitted.by Costello Marine Contracting Corp.
for James B. Ford to construct approximately 75' o£ bulkhe~d'-di~rec~.lY
in ~ront of exi~sting bulkhea~ which~ has'~deteri°ra~ed in-Town Creek,
wi~h the provision-that, in t~e future replacement~ is done in place
and that final determination is consistent with ~he Goldsmith
approwal. ~ ~
Vote of Board: Ayes: AI~
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ROBERT H. ROTHMAN
On motion made.by Trustee Cochran seconded by Trustee Bredemeyer
it was
RESOLVED to APPROVE the application of Robert H. Rothman to
maintenance dredge a boat basin to .remove silt and sand that ~
accumulated from normal tidal action and excessive action from
the recent storm in Jockey Creek, Southold. Spoil is to be
trucked to approved upland site. ?.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
LAND USE COMPANY FOR GEORGE SWEEN¥
In the matter of the application for Land Use Company on behalf
of George Sweeny to maintenance dredge an existing boat slip to
provide 3' of depth at MLW and to install a 25' section of
timber bulkhead with two 3' returns to prevent further siltation
of an existing boat slip in Haywater Cove, Cutchogue. Trustee
Bredemeyer stated that the site had been inspected on May 23, 1984
and questions were raised With the possibility of constructing
a timber bulkhead and filling behind it-and to extend the dock
out into the water to give the required depth £or the docking of
a boat and as such feel it-Unnecessary as proposed. Trustee Smith
continued and explained that with the bulkhead, digging in front,
and filling behind that the trustees see it as separate operations.
On mozion made by Trustee Bredemeyer seconded by Trustee Cochran
it was
RESOLVED to separate the applications Deny the application to ....
construct ~he bulkhead and approve the maintenance dredging with
the provision that nozhing ~deeper than 2' below MLW all fill to
'be trucked to approved upland Site and replanting of the marsh
fringe on the north side of the slip.
'Vote of Board: Ayes: All
.LAND USE COMPANY FOR GEORGE SWEENY-WETLAND APPLICATION NO;200
On motion made by Trustee Bredemeyer seconded by Trustee Cochran
it was
RESOL'VED to recommend to the Town Board to separate the applications
for Georg$.Sweeny to maintenance dredge an]iexisting boat Slip to
provide 3' of depth'at MLW-and to install a 25' section of timber
bulkhead with two'3' returns to prevent further siltation of an
existing boat slip in Haywater Cove, Cutchogue. It is recommended
to deny the application ~o conszruct the bulkhead and approve the
maintenance dredging with the provision that no dredging deeper
than 2' below MLW all fill to be trucked to approved upland site
and replanting of the marsh fringe on the north side of the slip.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
RICHARD NASS
On motion made by Trustee Kujawski seconded by Trustee Cochran it was
RESOLVED to APPROVE the application of Richard Nass to construct
a deck and float 15' x 15' with a ramp to connect to an existing
float and the installation of a 20' x 6' float, .project is located
on the west side of a canal off Jockey Creek and on the east side
of Wells Ave. Southotd, with the provision that a permit will not
be issued until the applicant submits a wetiand application.
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Trustee Kujawski stated that although the contractor did not
believe that the wetlands are involved, the Trustees do feel
that the area is capable of supporting wetland growth, so under
the wetland ordinance, if it is capable of supporting it, it's
eligible.
Vote of Board: Ayes: Ail
FLOYD R. VAIL
On motion made by Trustee Kujawski seconded by Trustee Cochran
it was
RESOLVED To APPROVE the mooring application of Floyd R. Vail to
place an offshore stake with pulley line to onshore stake in
Deep Hole Creek.
Vote of Board: Ayes: Ail
TERRY C. NAGY
On motion made by Trustee Smith seconded by Trustee Bednoski it
was
RESOLVED to APPROVE the application of Terry C. Nagy to place
a~:~mushroom with stake in Town Creek, Southold, with the provision
that only a mushroom is used, and that the boat will not impede
navigation or swing into any'~other boat.j TruStee'Smith stated
that if Mr. Nagy wishes to use fore and aft mushrooms it would
~ept ab 1 ~.
Vote of Board: Ayes: All
Trustee Smith asked if anyone ha~ anything To say for the good
~r the bad of The TrUstees?
Mrs. Ruth Olive: Yes! I jus~ wondered if you gentlemen had seen
in the public notices from the Town Board, I think there is one
that the Trustees would be interested in. I'll read it to you.
Notice of Complete Application-by Bayview Ventures, Inc. to discharge
waste water from a wa~er supply treatment plant to the easterly
arm of Deep Hole Creek. The proposed discharge is located within an
area designated as a sole source aquifer. Contact person: Mr~ Robert
N. Thurber, NYSDEC, Bldg. 40, SUNY--Room 219, Stony Brook, written
commen~s by June 22, 1984. The Town Board has entrusted Councilman
Paul Stoutenburgh, who is giving it vo Dave Emilita to review. So
perhaps you can get in touch with him and see what his opinion is
on it. If you are going to have a treatment planT.
Trustee Smith: What was that treatmen~ for?
Ruth Olive: The Bayview Ventures is a sub-division. They have
basically'the same problems with the water as they did up here in
Orient-the Approved Settlers- except they didm't make the five
acres or better. They have to put in a separate water treatment
plant and they are going to have to also put in some central sewerage
system, probably because of the depth of the ground water. So then
they want to buiId this and then discharge this waste water into the
creek. 1. That creek ~±sfn~!:~b±g, so it will certainly change
the composition of what's ever in there. Plus if you do that you
aren't recharging your own ground water. How long are they going to
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keep pumping bef.ore they are going to.be pulling in salt.
Trustee Smith: Not only that but they are going to change the
salinity o£ the creek.
Ruth Oliva: This application to the DEC is just for the discharge
of the State Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (SPDES) Permit.
Trustee Kujawski: How is this discharge going to be accomplished
without a Wetland Permit?
Trustee Smith:
Or a Trustee~Permit?
Ruth Oliva: I just thought I should bring it to your attention.
The Trustees were quite concerned with this. They have many questions
concerning the changing of salinity and the construction of discharge
pipes. A letter will be forwarded to Mr. Thurber with comments
regarding same.
The Trustees reviewed the correspondence from Mr. Tuthill and
Mr. Geideman in regard to the bulkhead that was constructed ~or
Mr. Israel in Gull Pond. Trustee Smith stated that he was there
looking at the bulkhead, I don't think it was exceptionally high
tide, but water was up against that bulkhead. Trustee Smith
stated that the building inspector should be notified and the
Bay Constable for this violation. Trustees felt this was certainly
on the Town bottom.
A letter was received from John and Linda Kowalski reflecting
the change in location, for the nature walk at Ole Jule Lane,
Mattituck, in James Creek. A copy of same has been placed in
the file.
On motion made by Trustee Smith seconded by Trustee Kujawski it was
RESOLVED to approve the transfer of mooring permit NO.. I290 mooring
No.372 from Mr. Nicholos Dapcic to Mr. Marino SuCic~.
Vote of Beard: Ayes: Ali
The Trustees received a letter from Mr. Gould for Mr. Perrone
officially withdrawing the application for a catwalk, ramp
and floating dock at Gids Island, Orient.
On motion made by Trustee Smith Seconded by Trustee Cochran it
was
RESOLVED to approve the letter from Mr. Gould withdrawing the
Perrone applicatiOn.
Vote of Board: Ayes: Al.I:
A letter was received from the Board of Appeals in reference to
the Norman C. Boos application.which stated that the application
was withdrawn without prejudice. Copies of same was sent to all
State, County and Town Agencies.
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The Trustees received a letter from the Southold Town Baymen's
Association, Inc. with three selected creeks for the clam
planting program. They also requested that the creeks be
closed for thirty (30) days following the plantings, to allow
the clams ~o depurate. The Creeks were: Arshamomaque Pond,
Hallocks Bay and West Creek, in addition the trustees also
closed Goose Creek. The creeks were closed from May 3, 1984
thru June 2, 1984, for the purpose of planting the clams.
A letter is to be sent To the Superintendent of Highways~ Raymond
C. Dean in reference to the road run off problem at Pequash and
Stillwater Avenue in Cutchogue. The Trustees are going to
request some time to get together with this department to discuss
the road run off problems at Pequash Ave. and one on Marratooka Rd.
Mr. Dempsy has a problem with the road run off which needs
immediate attention.
On motion made by Trustee Kujawski seconded by Trustee Bednoski
it was
RESOLVED to amend the permit for Kenneth W. Akeson ~o install
a ramp 3' x 8' leading to the float, in Kimogenor Point near
Jackson Avenue, New Suffolk.
Vote of Board~ Ayes: All
A letter will be sent to Supervisor Francis J. Murphy and the
Town Board for the purpose o~ discussing the trustees assaming
the Wetland Ordinance. A date was set for May 29, 1984 at
7~00 P.M. to meet at ,the Town Hail for this discussion.
On Motion made by Trustee Kujawski seconded by Trustee Cochra~
it was
RESOLVED that this meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 9:15 P.M.
there being no further business to come before the Board.
Vote of Board~ Ayes'~ All
Ilene Pfiffer ~ng ~
Secretary to Board