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ELIZABETH A. NEVILLE
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
TOWN CLERK
PO Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
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OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
August 28, 2007
7:30 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, August 28, 2007 at the
Meeting Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, NY. Supervisor Russell opened the meeting at 7:30
PM with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
I. Reports
1. Recreation Department
July 2007
2. Justice Evans
July 2007
3. Justice Bruer
July 2007
4. Program for the Disabled
July 2007
5. Board of Trustees
July 2007
6. Justice Price
July 2007
II. Public Notices
1. Application to US Army Corps of Engineers
August 28, 2007 Page 2
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Elizabeth Wolff to construct timber deck and stairs and replace bulkhead, Hog Neck Bay,
Southold
2. Liquor License Renewal with NYS Liquor Authority
Stepfal Restaurant Corp d/b/a Village Pizza, 13500 Main Road, Mattituck
Costello di Borghese LLC, 17150 County Road 48, Cutchogue
3. SC Dept of Health - Public Hearing
September 11, 2007 3-5 pm, Riverhead
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. 9:00 Am - East End Rural Transit
Margaret Brown
Hank de Cillia
2. Natural Resource Department
3. 10:00 Am - Mattituck Stakeholders
Charlie Zaloom
4. 10:30 Am - New Suffolk Stakeholders
Tom Samuels
5. Request of Verification of Water for CFD
6. $4 Million Land Preservation Bond
7. Reports on Plum Island Scoping Session
Per Supervisor Russell
8. 12:30 Pm Executive Session
Property Acquisition - Melissa Spiro
9. Code Committee Report
Noise Control
Affordable Housing
10. Shellfish Code Closures
per Councilman Krupski
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11. Reschedule Next Meeting Date
Next meeting date is 9/11
12. A Local Law In Relation to Shellfish and Other Marine Resources
per Supervisor Russell
13. Executive Session
Property Acquisition
14. Executive Session
Labor/Litigation
15. Executive Session
Litigation
Call to Order
7:30 PM Meeting called to order on August 28, 2007 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25,
Southold, NY.
Attendee Name Organization Title Status Arrived
Albert Krupski Jr. Town of Southold Councilman Present
William P. Edwards Town of Southold Councilman Present
Daniel C. Ross Town of Southold Councilman Present
Thomas H. Wickham Town of Southold Councilman Present
Louisa P. Evans Town of Southold Justice Absent
Scott Russell Town of Southold Supervisor Present
Elizabeth A. Neville Town of Southold Town Clerk Present
Kieran Corcoran Town of Southold Assistant Town Attorney Present
Pledge of Allegiance
Opening Statements
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, would everybody please rise and join with me in the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag. Before we start the meeting, just some clarifications. I know some of you
are here specifically for public hearings, about certain topics. You will have opportunities to
address the Town Board on those public hearings later in the course of the meeting. At the end
of the meeting, some of you are here for issues that might not be on the agenda, that would be
your opportunity to come up and address the Town Board. In the meantime in the beginning,
does anybody have any issue as it appears on the agenda, to share with the Town Board? Any
issue or objection to raise? Mrs. Egan?
Joan Egan, East Marion
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JOAN EGAN: Joan Egan, East Marion. Good evening everybody. And of course, I always ask
the same question, I hope at least 50 % of you up there reviewed all the justices reports from the
court? Even 50 % of you. It should be basically 100 %. Are you going to, item 695, you are
going to go ahead with the 9/11?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes. It was discussed at the Town Board today and it is a regular
work day throughout the country, so the Town Board felt we should just go ahead and have the
Town Board meeting.
MS. EGAN: Okay, that is fine. Now, with the 696, I think this will come under the public work
from 697 that is in regard to the recreation center and the ceiling needs to be washed down once
they get the roof on. The ceiling looks terrible..
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are replacing it.
MS. EGAN: Oh, the ceiling?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, we are replacing the ceiling.
MS. EGAN: What about the floor?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are replacing the floor, the ceiling, and updating the bathrooms.
But that all has to come after the roof is fixed.
MS. EGAN: Good. Now, on item 700 that is the police department and we have spent quite a
bit of money there and I certainly, for their vehicle maintenance and repairs, that is $50,000 and
you know, with those cameras in the car, I hope they are taking good care of them and I think
the general public, if they don’t know it, should know that many of our police officers also serve
as firefighters. And we should be very proud of them. People should know that. What is item
703 about?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is ongoing litigation that has been around since the beginning
of all time. This is the continuation to engage Frank Isler who is special counsel for a lot of
specific matters, for a legal issue with regard to the name that appears and the Trustees.
MS. EGAN: You are not going to tell us what it is about?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I, it would take two days. Come in and I will sit down, this is an
ongoing, there is so many different aspects to this legislation.
MS. EGAN: Okay.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: You make it sound simple, Scott.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It has been around as long as Albert has.
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MS. EGAN: Now item 706, you approved the agreement of the CSEA. Now is that for all of
the unions, all of it?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It was a specific grievance by a specific union member. Filed a
grievance against an action of the Town. We have resolved the issue with them and it was
resolved and settled amicably. This is, we have to back that up with Town resolution.
MS. EGAN: Good. What about 714 or will this come under some of the part of the public
hearing?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That would be an item to discuss at a public hearing.
MS. EGAN: Okay. That does it, thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Would anybody else like to address the Town Board?
Frank Carlin, Laurel
FRANK CARLIN: Is this for resolutions or anything on the agenda?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: This is for the resolutions. You are welcome to come in on the other
items but I will remind you that for the public hearings, we will have an opportunity, the public
will have an opportunity to address those specific topics at those hearings.
MR. CARLIN: Inaudible
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I would prefer that….
MR. CARLIN: Inaudible
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Absolutely. That would be at the end of the meeting, we will have
the opportunity for the public to speak on any issue.
MR. CARLIN: Inaudible
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the agenda items? (No
response) Alright, hearing none, let’s move forward.
Minutes Approval
RESOLVEDaccepts the minutes dated
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby :
Tuesday, May 08, 2007
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Vote Record - Acceptance of Minutes for May 8, 2007 7:30 PM
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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William P. Edwards Seconder
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Accepted
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Accepted as Amended Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
RESOLVEDaccepts the minutes dated
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby :
Tuesday, June 05, 2007
Vote Record - Acceptance of Minutes for June 5, 2007 7:30 PM
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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William P. Edwards Voter
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Accepted
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??Daniel C. Ross Seconder
Accepted as Amended
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
RESOLVEDaccepts the minutes dated
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby :
Tuesday, May 29, 2007
Vote Record - Acceptance of Minutes for May 29, 2007 7:00 PM
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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William P. Edwards Voter
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Accepted
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Accepted as Amended Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
V. Resolutions
2007-694
CATEGORY: Audit
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Approve Audit Dated 8/28/07
RESOLVED approves the audit dated
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
August 28, 2007.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-694
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Voter
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-695
CATEGORY: Set Meeting
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DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Next Meeting 9/11/07
RESOLVED
that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Tuesday, September 11, 2007 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York at 4:30 P. M..
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-695
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Voter
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Seconder
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-696
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Recreation
Hire Fall Instructors
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute an agreement with the following individuals for
the fall 2007 recreation programs
, all in accordance with the approval of the town attorney.
Funding for the instructors listed below has been budgeted for in the recreation department's
2007 instructor line A7020.4.500.420.
Martine Abitbol (French cooking)………………………………$25/hour
Antoinette Beck-Witt (drawing class)..........................................$25/hour
Sara Bloom (memoir writing)...................................................... $25/hour
Thomas Boucher (guitar)............................................................. $30/hour
Constance Case (Quilting for Beginners)……………………. $25/hour
Eugenia Cherouski (folk dancing)............................................... $25/hour
Doris Coniglio (knitting for beginners)……………………… $25/hour
James Crosser (Youth Basketball Program)…………………… $12.50/hour
Paula Croteau (baking classes)………………………………… $25/hour
Shirley Darling (tennis).............................................................. $30/class
Lenora Dome (belly dancing).................................................... $25/hour
Martha Eagle (Aerobics).............................................................. $30/hour
East End Insurance Services (Defensive Driving)..................... $30/person
Glen Franke (Youth Night Program)……………………………$25/hour
Jill Franke (Youth Night Program)……………………..……… $25/hour
Mike Furst (beginner computer)................................................. $25/hour
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Kathy Gadomski (Youth Night Program)……………………… $25/hour
Tom Gadomski (Youth Night Program)……………………… $25/hour
Bill Gatz (Youth Basketball Program)………………………… $25/hour
Dan Gebbia (dog obedience)..................................................… $55/dog
Carol Giordano (Baton)................................................................$25/class
Elizabeth Hagen (Senior Safety)...………………………………$25/hour
Rebecca Johnson (volleyball)……………………………………$25/hour
Jean Jung (Plant Talk)……………………………………………$25/hour
Rosemary Martilotta (hatha yoga)…………………………….....$55/class
Rosemary McKinley (Study Skills/Financial Inventory)……… $25/hour
Judy McCleery (Digital Photography)………………………… $25/hour
Cynthia Mignone (Youth Night Program)……..………….. ….. $25/hour
Elizabeth Morrison (childbirth class)……………………………$25/hour
Theresa Pressler (youth programs)………………………………$25/hour
Riverside Gymnastics (youth gymnastics)................................. $60/person
Connie Rosnack (Youth Night Program)……..…………………$25/hour
Candice Schott (Youth Night Program)……..…………………..$25/hour
Megan Schutt (Youth Night Program)……..……………………$25/hour
Laurie Short (aerobics classes)................................................... $25/hour
Touch Dancing Studios (ballroom dancing)…………………… $54/person
Heather Walker (cheerleading)………………………………… $25/hour
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-696
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Seconder
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-697
CATEGORY: Authorize to Bid
DEPARTMENT: Public Works
Southold Recreation Center Improvements
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs the
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Town Clerk to advertise for bids for “Southold Recreation Center Improvements – Roof,
Siding, Windows and Doors”, in accordance with the plans and construction specifications
prepared by L. K. McLean Associates, P. C.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-697
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Initiator
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-698
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Community Development
CDBG Budget Mod
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2003 & 2005
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Community Development Block Grant Program Budgets as follows:
From:
Cutchogue Drainage Project FY 2003 $5,000
To:
Home Improvement Program FY 2005 $5,000
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-698
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Initiator
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-699
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Public Works
Planning Office - Director
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2007
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund Part-Town Planning Board Budget as follows:
From:
B.8020.1.100.100 Planning, Personal Services
Full-Time Regular Earnings $750
To:
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B.8020.2.100.200 Furniture & Furnishings
Tables, Desks $600
B.8020.2.100.300 Furniture & Furnishings
Chairs $150
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-699
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Voter
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Seconder
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-700
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Police Dept
Modify the 2007 General Fund Whole Town Budget - Police
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2007 General
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1990.4.100.200 Police Retirement Reserve $50,000.00
To:
A.3120.4.400.650 Vehicle Maintenance & Repairs $50,000.00
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-700
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Voter
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-701
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Solid Waste Management District
SWD Budget Mods Aug 07
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2007
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Solid Waste District budget as follows:
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From:
SR.8160.4.400.805 MSW Removal $ 5,360.00
To:
SR.8160.2.500.600 Misc. Sanitation Equipment $ 100.00
SR.8160.4.100.500 Motor Vehicle Glass 500.00
SR.8160.4.100.630 Maint/Solid Waste Coord. Vehicle 500.00
SR.8160.4.100.995 Signage 2,000.00
SR.8160.4.400.610 Vending Machine Maintenance 250.00
SR.8160.4.400.625 Tire Repair 2,000.00
SR.8160.4.500.300 Equipment Lease – Whole Town 10.00
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-701
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Initiator
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-702
CATEGORY: Grants
DEPARTMENT: Land Preservation
NYS AG & MKTS GRANT PROPOSAL - Preservation
RESOLVEDauthorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Land Preservation Coordinator Melissa Spiro to submit a proposal to the New York State
Department of Agriculture and Markets
to solicit State assistance from the 2007-2008
Farmland Protection Implementation Grant (FPIG) Program.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-702
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Initiator
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-703
CATEGORY: Litigation
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
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Retain Special Counsel In Zupa Litigation
RESOLVEDretains Frank A. Isler as
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Special Counsel in the matter of Zupas, et al. v. Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold,
et al.,
which action was filed on July 31, 2007.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-703
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Voter
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Seconder
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-704
CATEGORY: Employment - Town
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Change Start Date for David Doroski
RESOLVEDchanges the appointment
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
th
date for Auto Equipment Operator David A. Doroski from June 21, 2007 to August 30
2007. (amends resolution 2007-506)
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-704
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Voter
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-705
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
ZBA Court Reporter
RESOLVEDauthorizes Erika Nadeau
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Court Reporting and Transcription, pursuant to their Proposal dated August 27, 2007
, for
court reporting services for the Zoning Board of Appeals of the Town of Southold, subject to the
review of the Town Attorney.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-705
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Initiator
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-706
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Approves the Agreement Between the CSEA and the Town of Southold
RESOLVEDapproves the agreement
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
between the CSEA and the Town of Southold
dated August 27, 2007.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-706
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Initiator
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-707
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Authorizes and Directs Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Execute the Proposal Dated August 20, 2007,
Between the Town of Southold and Diversified Technology Consultants
RESOLVED authorizes and directs
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to execute the Proposal dated August 20, 2007, between the
Town of Southold and Diversified Technology Consultants
, in connection with the Fishers
Island Sewer District, regarding emergency upgrades of the Pump Station, generator replacement
and leaching field repairs, at a cost not to exceed $10,900.00, subject to the approval of the Town
Attorney.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-707
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Voter
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-708
CATEGORY: Seqra
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
F.I. Sewer District Proposed Improvements Type II
RESOLVEDproposed
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the
improvements to the Fishers Island Sewer District Pump Station
is classified as a Type II
Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6 NYCRR Section 617.5, and is not subject
to review under SEQRA.
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-708
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Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Adopted
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William P. Edwards Seconder
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Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-709
CATEGORY: Misc. Public Hearing
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Public Hearing Call to Order FISD Bond
A regular meeting of the Town Board of the
Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk,
New York, held at the Town Hall, 53095
Main Road, Southold, in said Town, on the
th
28 of August, 2007.
PRESENT:
Hon. Scott A. Russell, Supervisor
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
William P. Edwards, Councilperson
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilperson
Daniel C. Ross, Councilperson
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Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Councilperson
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In the Matter :
of the
:
Increase and Improvement of Facilities of
the Fishers Island Sewer : ORDER CALLING PUBLIC
District, in the Town of Southold, in the HEARING TO BE HELD ON
County of Suffolk, New York pursuant to : SEPTEMBER 25, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Section 202-b of the Town Law.
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RECITALS
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold (herein called “Town
Board” and “Town”, respectively), in the County of Suffolk, New York, on behalf of the Fishers
Island Sewer District, has caused Diversified Technology Consultants., Inc., competent
engineers duly licensed by the State of New York, to prepare a map, plan and report for the
proposed sewer improvements, consisting of various upgrades to the wastewater pump station,
the installation of a generator to replace the existing generator, installation of a propane tank,
including the construction of the foundation therefore, the removal and replacement of the
underground diesel fuel tank and reconstruction of the leach field pipe and other work related,
appurtenant and supplemental thereto, including any original equipment, machinery, and
apparatus required therefor (the “Sewer Improvement”), and pursuant to the direction of the
Town Board, the Engineer has completed and filed with the Town Board such map, plan and
report of the Sewer Improvement and has estimated the total cost of such increase and
improvement of facilities to be $125,000; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board has given due consideration to the impact that the
Sewer Improvement may have on the environment and, on the basis of such consideration, the
Town Board had found that no substantial adverse environmental impact will be caused by the
Sewer Improvement; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board and the Town have complied in every respect with
all applicable federal, state and local laws and regulations regarding environmental matters,
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including compliance with the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act, constituting
Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law; and
WHEREAS, the maximum amount proposed to be expended for the construction
of the Sewer Improvement is estimated to be $125,000, which is planned to be financed by the
issuance of serial bonds of the Town and the levy and collection of assessments upon the several
lots and parcels of land within the Sewer District which the Town Board shall determine to be
especially benefited by the Sewer Improvement, so much upon and from each as shall be in just
proportion to the amount of benefit which the Sewer Improvement shall confer upon the same, to
pay the principal of and interest on said bonds as the same shall become due and payable; and
WHEREAS, the annual cost of operation and maintenance of said Sewer
Improvement shall be paid with a charge upon the entire area of the Town outside of any villages
and shall be levied and collected in the same manner and at the same time as other Town
charges;
Now, therefore, be it
ORDERED, that the Town Board shall meet and hold a public hearing at the
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York, in the Town, on the 25th day of September,
2007, at 7:35 o’clock P.M. (Prevailing Time) to consider the construction and implementation of
the Sewer Improvement, at which all persons interested in the subject thereof may be heard
concerning the same, and for such other action on the part of the Town Board with relation
thereto as may be required by law; and be it
FURTHER ORDERED, that the Town Clerk (i) publish at least once in “THE
SUFFOLK TIMES” and newspaper published in Mattituck, in the Town of Southold and hereby
designated as the official newspaper of the Town for such publication; (ii) conspicuously post on
the bulletin board of the Town Clerk, maintained pursuant to subdivision 6 of Section 30 of the
Town Law, a copy of this Order certified by said Town Clerk; and (iii) mail by first class mail to
each owner of taxable real property in the Sewer District, the Notice of such public hearing in
substantially the form attached hereto designated Exhibit “A”; the first publication, posting and
mailing to be not less than ten (10) nor more than twenty (20) days before the day set and
designated herein for said public hearing as aforesaid,
DATED: August 28, 2007
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TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
Exhibit A
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold,
in the County of Suffolk, State of New York, will meet at the Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
Southold, New York, in the Town, on the 25th day of September, 2007, at 7:35 o’clock P.M.
(Prevailing Time), for the purpose of conducting a public hearing to consider to the proposed
increase and improvement of facilities of the Fishers Island Sewer District, consisting of various
upgrades to the wastewater pump station, the installation of a generator to replace the existing
generator, installation of a propane tank, including the construction of the foundation therefore,
the removal and replacement of the underground diesel fuel tank and reconstruction of the leach
field pipe and other work related, appurtenant and supplemental thereto, including any original
equipment, machinery, and apparatus required therefor (the “Sewer Improvement”), at the
estimated total cost of $125,000.
At said public hearing, the Town Board will hear all persons interested in the
subject matter thereof concerning the same and for such other action on the part of the Town
with relation thereto as may be required by law.
Dated: August 28, 2007
Southold, New York
Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-709
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Initiator
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-710
CATEGORY: Bond
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Final Call to Order FISD
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A regular meeting of the Town Board of the
Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk,
New York, held at the Town Hall, 53095
Main Road, Southold, in said Town, on the
th
28 of August, 2007.
PRESENT:
Hon. Scott A. Russell, Supervisor
Louisa P. Evans, Justice
William P. Edwards, Councilperson
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilperson
Daniel C. Ross, Councilperson
Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Councilperson
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In the Matter of the Establishment of the Fishers Island Sewer District:
in the Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York, pursuant to
Article 12-A the Town Law.
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FINAL ORDER ESTABLISHING DISTRICT
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold (herein called “Town
Board” and “Town”, respectively), had heretofore caused to be prepared a general map and plan
relating to the establishment of the Fishers Island Sewer District (the “District”), and the
improvement of the facilities of said District, consisting of construction of a secondary treatment
system connected to private mains, which map and plan were duly filed in the office of the Town
Clerk of the Town for public inspection; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to the order of the Town Board dated June 21, 1977, a
public hearing upon the question of such establishment of the District was held on July 12, 1977
at 11:00 o’clock A.M. (Prevailing Time); and
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WHEREAS, the Town Board adopted a conditional order on November 10, 1977,
reciting a description of the boundaries of the District in a manner sufficient to identify the lands
included therein as in a deed of conveyance, the improvements proposed, the fact that the cost of
the establishment and improvement of the District and facilities shall be at no cost to the Town
and shall be paid entirely by the owners of the real property within said District or from
additional sources, the fact that a map and report describing the same are on file in the Town
Clerk’s office for public inspection; and
WHEREAS, following publication and posting of certified copies of said Order
pursuant to Article 12-A of the Town Law and after a public hearing duly held by the Town
Board at the time and place herein referred to, the Town Board, by resolution duly adopted
November 10, 1977, determined that the notice of public hearing was published and posted as
required by law, and is otherwise sufficient, that all the property and property owners within the
proposed District are benefited thereby, that all the property and property owners benefited are
included within the limits of the proposed District, that it is in the public interest to establish the
District, subject to permissive referendum.
Now, therefore, be it
ORDERED, that the Fishers Island Sewer District is hereby established, to be
known as Fishers Island Sewer District, in the Town of Southold, situate wholly outside of any
incorporated village or city, and bounded and described as follows:
ALL that certain parcel of land located at Fishers Island, Town of Southold, Suffolk
County, New York, more particularly bounded and described as follows:
BEGINNING at a point in the shore line of Fishers Island and Fishers Island Sound as
same is located in Parcel No. 1 of a Quitclaim Deed between the United States of America and
Race Point Corporation, recorded in the office of the Suffolk County Clerk in Liber 4615 p. 283;
RUNNING THENCE South 46 degrees 58 minutes East about 408 feet to a monument;
THENCE South 35 degrees 24 minutes East, 424.00 feet to a monument, both lines abutting
northeasterly on land now or formerly of the Estate of S.A. Salvage; RUNNING THENCE three
lines abutting southeasterly, northeasterly and northwesterly on land now or formerly of
Wilmerding, South 32 degrees 36 minutes West, 465.9 feet to a monument; THENCE South 26
degrees 57 minutes East about 405 feet to a monument; THENCE North 62 degrees 26 minutes
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East, 687.22 feet to a monument at land now or formerly of John Wilmerding; THENCE South
31 degrees 18 minutes East, 188.41 feet and North 62 degrees 26 minutes East, 1.61 feet to a
monument; THENCE South 27 degrees 34 minutes East, 25.00 feet to a monument; THENCE
running the southwesterly line of Equestrian Avenue, South 76 degrees 2 minutes 30 seconds
East, 58.22 feet to a drill hole at the intersection of the southeasterly line of Winthrop Drive and
the southwesterly line of Equestrian Avenue (being the point of beginning of said Parcel No. 1 in
Deed Liber 4615 p. 283); THENCE continuing southeasterly and northeasterly along Equestrian
Avenue to its intersection with Beach Avenue described as the point or place of beginning of the
st
“1 Tract” in a Quitclaim Deed from the United States of America to the Town of Southold,
recorded in the Suffolk County Clerk’s Office in Liber 4614 p. 296; THENCE along the
southwesterly, southerly and southeasterly line of Beach Avenue the following 8 courses and
distances: (1) South 47 degrees 7 minutes 40 seconds East, 514.09 feet; (2) South 84 degrees 21
minutes 15 seconds East, 345.39 feet; (3) South 78 degrees 31 minutes 10 seconds East, 281.33
feet; (4) South 81 degrees 28 minutes East, 447.94 feet; (5) South 67 degrees 38 minutes East,
342.57 feet; (6) North 77 degrees 17 minutes East, 202.32 feet; (7) North 26 degrees 2 minutes
30 seconds East, 131.81 feet; (8) North 25 degrees 36 minutes 50 seconds West, 32.38 feet;
THENCE South 39 degrees 45 minutes 10 seconds East, 226.28 feet; THENCE South 39 degrees
41 minutes 40 seconds East, 64.38 feet; THENCE South 76 degrees 0 minutes West, 386 feet;
THENCE South 13 degrees 20 minutes East, 107 feet to the shore of Fishers Island and Block
Island Sound as same is located in the Deed aforesaid to the Town of Southold in Liber 4614
p. 296; THENCE following the meanders of said shore line in a westerly direction to the shore
line of Fishers Island Sound; THENCE following the meanders of said shore line and the
meanders of the shore line of Silver Eel Cove and again the meanders of Fishers Island Sound to
the point or place of BEGINNING.
and be it further
ORDERED, that said District shall be established at no cost to the Town as
hereinabove set forth in the recitals hereto; and be it further
ORDERED, that within ten (10) days after adoption of this Order, the Town Clerk
shall record with the Clerk of the County of Suffolk and file with the Department of Audit and
Control in Albany, New York, copies of this Order, certified by said Town Clerk.
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Vote Record - Resolution RES-2007-710
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Initiator
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-711
CATEGORY: Misc. Public Hearing
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
BCI Communications Waiver Cell Moratorium
BE IT RESOLVEDwill hold a public hearing
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
at 4:35 p.m. on September 11, 2007, at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,
New York 11971, concerning the application of BCI Communications, Inc
., as agent for
Nextel of New York Inc., for a waiver of the “Temporary Moratorium on the Processing, Review
of, and making Decisions on applications for Building Permits, Site Plans and Special Exception
Use Permits for Wireless Communication Facilities in the Town of Southold,” and the Town
Clerk is hereby directed to refer the application to the Planning Board for comment.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
??????????
Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-712
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Budget Modification-Debt Service on Animal Shelter
RESOLVEDmodifies the 2007
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
General Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.9730.6.000.000 B.A.N. Principal $ 128,278.00
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A.9730.7.000.000 B.A.N. Interest 1,722.00
To:
A.9901.9.000.100 Transfer to Capital Fund $ 130,000.00
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Initiator
Adopted as Amended
??????????
Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Seconder
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Withdrawn
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
????????
Scott Russell Voter
2007-713
CATEGORY: Contracts, Lease & Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Authorizes Supervisor Scott A. Russell to Retain L.K. McLean Associates, P.C. to Complete an
Environmental Review In Connection with the Town’s Purchase of the Peconic School Property
RESOLVEDauthorizes Supervisor
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
Scott A. Russell to retain L.K. McLean Associates, P.C. to complete an environmental
review in connection with the Town’s purchase of the Peconic School property
, also known
as SCTM #1000-75-1-13, subject to the approval of the Town Attorney.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Voter
Adopted as Amended
??????????
Defeated Daniel C. Ross Initiator
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-714
CATEGORY: Seqra
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
LL/Amendments to Peddlers SEQRA
RESOLVED“A
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the proposed
Local Law in relation to Amendments to Peddlers, Solicitors and Transient Retail
Merchants”
is classified as an Unlisted Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6
NYCRR Section 617, and that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby establishes itself
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as lead agency for the uncoordinated review of this action and issues a Negative Declaration for
the action in accordance with the recommendation of Mark Terry dated August 27, 2007, and
authorizes Supervisor Scott A. Russell to sign the short form EAF in accordance therewith.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
????????
??William P. Edwards Voter
Adopted as Amended
??????????
Defeated Daniel C. Ross Initiator
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Tabled
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-715
CATEGORY: Bond
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Open Space Bond
BOND RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK,
ADOPTED AUGUST 28, 2007, AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF
INTERESTS OR RIGHTS IN AGRICULTURAL LANDS, INCLUDING
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS IN OPEN AGRICULTURAL LANDS;
PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT NO SUCH INTERESTS OR RIGHTS IN
SUCH AGRICULTURAL LANDS SHALL BE ACQUIRED UNTIL ALL
RELEVANT PROVISIONS OF THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL
QUALITY REVIEW ACT HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH AND A FINAL
DECLARATION AS TO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT HAS BEEN DULY
DECLARED; STATING THE ESTIMATED MAXIMUM COST THEREOF
IS $4,000,000; FURTHER AUTHORIZING THE TOWN TO RESERVE THE
RIGHT TO SELL, LEASE, ALIENATE OR OTHERWISE TRANSFER
SUCH INTERESTS OR RIGHTS IN AGRICULTURAL LANDS
HEREINAFTER ACQUIRED PURSUANT HERETO AND TO PROVIDE
FINANCING FOR THE PREPARATION OF PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS AND OTHER STUDIES RELATIVE TO THE
DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF THE ACQUIRED AGRICULTURAL
LANDS; APPROPRIATING SAID AMOUNT THEREFOR; AUTHORIZING
THE ISSUANCE OF $4,000,000 SERIAL BONDS OF SAID TOWN TO
FINANCE SAID APPROPRIATION; STATING THAT LAND
INSTALLMENT PURCHASE OBLIGATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED TO BE
ISSUED PURSUANT TO THIS BOND RESOLUTION; AND
DETERMINING THAT THIS BOND RESOLUTION SHALL BE SUBJECT
TO A MANDATORY REFERENDUM.
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WHEREAS, pursuant to Section 247 of the New York General Municipal Law,
constituting Chapter 24 of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York (hereinafter called
“Section 247”), the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York (hereinafter called the
“Town”), is authorized to acquire agricultural lands used in bona fide agricultural production as
set forth in Section 247; and
WHEREAS, such acquisition of interests or rights in agricultural land located
throughout the Town must be found, determined and deemed to be necessary, in the public
interest and a proper public purpose of the Town in accordance with the findings and
determinations of the State Legislature as set forth in Section 247; and
WHEREAS, in pursuance thereof, the Town desires to (i) implement the
agricultural land acquisition and financing program hereinafter described, (ii) authorize the
issuance of land installment purchase obligations for the purpose of financing the acquisition of
such interests or rights in agricultural land, (iii) reserve the right to sell, lease, alienate or
otherwise transfer such interests or rights in agricultural land hereinafter acquired pursuant
hereto, as may be permitted by law and subject to such terms, conditions and restrictions as may
be determined by the Town Board, and (iv) provide financing for the preparation of plans and
specifications and other studies relative to the development and use of the acquired agricultural
land, in conformity with Section 247; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to §617.5(c) 21 and 27 of the New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act (hereinafter called “SEQRA”), constituting Article 8 of the
New York Environmental Conservation Law, this undertaking is and has been determined by the
Town Board, acting as lead agency, to be a Type II action requiring no further action pursuant to
SEQRA, provided, however, that no agricultural land shall be acquired and no improvements or
enhancements to any Town facilities shall be undertaken pursuant to this resolution until all
applicable provisions of SEQRA, have been complied with and a determination of significance
has been duly declared with respect to each specific project to be undertaken hereunder; and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town has further determined that it is
appropriate and in the best interests of the Town to submit a Proposition for the approval or
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disapproval of this bond resolution to the qualified voters present and voting at the Biennial
Town Election to be held on November 6, 2007.
Now, therefore
THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, IN THE COUNTY OF
SUFFOLK, NEW YORK, HEREBY RESOLVES (by the favorable vote of not less than three-
fifths of all the members of said Town Board) AS FOLLOWS:
Section 1. The Town Board hereby finds, determines and deems the acquisition
of interests or rights in agricultural land located throughout the Town for the preservation of
open spaces and areas and the maintenance and enhancement of the conservation of natural or
scenic resources to be necessary, in the public interest and a proper public purpose of the Town
in accordance with the findings and determinations of the New York State Legislature as set
forth in Section 247.
Section 2. The Town is hereby authorized to acquire by purchase, gift, grant,
bequest, devise, lease or otherwise, the fee or any lesser interest, development right, easement,
covenant or other contractual right necessary to achieve the purposes of Section 247, in various
parcels of agricultural land, including, but not limited to, development rights in open agricultural
lands, within the Town, for the preservation of open spaces and areas and to maintain and
enhance the conservation of natural or scenic resources, after due notice and a public hearing,
pursuant to the provisions of Section 247 and applicable provisions of the Town of Southold
Code, including incidental costs incurred in relation thereto; provided, however, that no such
right, including the fee or any lesser interest, or development right, easement, covenant, or other
contractual right in any piece or parcel of such agricultural lands shall be so acquired until all
relevant provisions of SEQRA have been complied with and a final declaration as to
environmental impact has been duly declared by the entity duly authorized to make such
determination and declaration with respect to the specific project to be undertaken hereunder.
The Town is further authorized to retain the right to sell, lease, alienate or otherwise transfer
such interests or rights in agricultural land hereinafter acquired pursuant hereto, as may be
permitted by law and subject to such terms, conditions and restrictions as may be determined by
the Town Board, and to provide financing for the preparation of plans and specifications and
other studies relative to the development and use of the acquired agricultural land, in conformity
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with Section 247. The estimated maximum cost of said class of objects or purposes, including
preliminary costs and costs incidental thereto and the financing thereof, is $4,000,000, and said
amount is hereby appropriated therefor. The plan of financing includes the issuance of
$4,000,000 serial bonds of the Town to finance said appropriation and the levy and collection of
taxes on all the taxable real property in the Town to pay the principal of said bonds and the
interest thereon as the same shall become due and payable.
Section 3. Serial bonds of the Town in the principal amount of $4,000,000 are
hereby authorized to be issued pursuant to the provisions of the Local Finance Law, constituting
Chapter 33-a of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York (herein called “Law”), to
finance said appropriation.
Section 4. The following additional matters are hereby determined, stated and
declared:
(a) The period of probable usefulness of said class of objects or purposes, as
described herein, for which the serial bonds authorized pursuant to this resolution are to be
issued, within the limitations of Section 11.00 (a) 21. of the Law, is thirty (30) years.
(b) All or a portion of the indebtedness to be contracted by the Town for the
purpose of financing the acquisition of such interests or rights in agricultural land may be issued
in the form of a land installment purchase obligation or obligations pursuant to the provisions of
Section 29.10 of the Law; any portion of said estimated maximum cost that is not financed by the
issuance of a land installment obligation or obligations may be financed through the issuance of
such bonds or bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of the sale of such bonds.
(c) The proceeds of the bonds herein authorized and any bond anticipation notes
issued in anticipation of said bonds may be applied to reimburse the Town for expenditures made
after the effective date of this resolution for the purpose or purposes for which said bonds are
authorized. The foregoing statement of intent with respect to reimbursement is made in
conformity with Treasury Regulation Section 1.150-2 of the United States Treasury Department.
(d) The proposed maturity of said $4,000,000 serial bonds will exceed five (5)
years.
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Section 5. Each of the bonds and any land installment purchase obligation
authorized by this resolution and any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of the sale of
said bonds shall contain the recital of validity as prescribed by Section 52.00 of the Law and said
bonds, land installment obligations, and any notes issued in anticipation of said bonds, shall be
general obligations of the Town, payable as to both principal and interest by general tax upon all
the taxable real property within the Town without limitation of rate or amount. The faith and
credit of the Town are hereby irrevocably pledged to the punctual payment of the principal of
and interest on said bonds, land installment purchase obligations and any notes issued in
anticipation of the sale of said bonds, and provision shall be made annually in the budget of the
Town by appropriation for (a) the amortization and redemption of the bonds, land installment
obligations, and any notes in anticipation of said bonds, to mature in such year and (b) the
payment of interest to be due and payable in such year.
Section 6. Subject to the provisions of this resolution and of the Law and
pursuant to the provisions of Section 21.00 relative to the issuance of bonds with substantially
level or declining annual debt service, Section 29.10 relative to the issuance of land installment
purchase obligations and of Section 30.00 relative to the issuance of bond anticipation notes and
of Sections 50.00, 56.00 to 60.00 and 168.00 of the Law, the powers and duties of the Town
Board relative to authorizing bond anticipation notes and prescribing the terms, form and
contents and as to the sale and issuance of the bonds and land installment purchase obligations
herein authorized and of any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of said bonds, and the
renewals of said bond anticipation notes, and as to the execution of contracts for credit
enhancements, are hereby delegated to the Supervisor, the chief fiscal officer of the Town.
Section 7. The validity of the bonds authorized by this resolution and of any
notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds, may be contested only if:
(a) such obligations are authorized for an object or purpose for which the
Town is not authorized to expend money, or
(b) the provisions of law which should be complied with at the date of the
publication of such resolution are not substantially complied with,
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and an action, suit or proceeding contesting such validity, is commenced within twenty days after
the date of such publication, or
(c) such obligations are authorized in violation of the provisions of the
constitution.
Section 8. A proposition for the approval or disapproval of this bond resolution
shall be submitted as a Proposition to the qualified voters of the Town at the Biennial Town
Election to be held on November 6, 2007, and this bond resolution shall take effect upon the
approval of the Proposition by said voters of the Town at that referendum vote.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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Adopted
????????
??William P. Edwards Voter
Adopted as Amended
??????????
Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
????????
Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
????????
Louisa P. Evans Voter
????????
Scott Russell Voter
2007-716
CATEGORY: Bond
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Open Space Bond to be Submitted for Election
A RESOLUTION DETERMINING AND SPECIFYING THAT A
PROPOSITION RELATING TO THE ACQUISITION OF
AGRICULTURAL LAND, THE FINANCING THEREOF, THE
SALE, LEASE OR TRANSFER OF SUCH AGRICULTURAL
LAND AND THE PREPARATION OF PLANS AND
SPECIFICATIONS AND STUDIES RELATIVE TO THE
DEVELOPMENT AND USE OF THE AGRICULTURAL LAND,
SHALL BE SUBMITTED AT THE BIENNIAL TOWN
ELECTION TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 6, 2007.
Recitals
WHEREAS, continuing development within the Town of Southold has
demonstrated a compelling need to acquire agricultural land for open space in the Town to
enhance the general quality of life and the environment of the Town, and thereby benefit the
residents and taxpayers of the Town; and
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WHEREAS, New York State General Municipal Law §247 recognizes the value
of agricultural lands and the need to preserve such land and, moreover, specifically empowers
municipalities with the authority to acquire agricultural land to preserve such land as open space;
and
WHEREAS, if existing agricultural lands are to be preserved, protected and
maintained, the Town must develop a cogent mechanism creating the capacity to (i) efficiently
acquire agricultural land, including the fee or any lesser interest, or development right, easement,
covenant or other contractual right, for the preservation of open space as the need arises and
opportunities are identified and (ii) retain the right to sell, lease, alienate or otherwise transfer
such interests or rights in agricultural land, as may be permitted by law and subject to such
terms, conditions and restrictions as may be determined by the Town Board, and to provide
financing for the preparation of plans and specifications and other studies relative to the
development and use of the acquired agricultural land, in conformity with Section 247; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to §617.5(c) 21 and 27 of the New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act (hereinafter called “SEQRA”), this action is and has been
determined by the Town Board to be a Type II action requiring no further action pursuant to
SEQRA; provided, however, that no agricultural land shall be acquired and no improvements or
enhancements to any Town facilities shall be undertaken pursuant to this resolution until all
applicable SEQRA provisions have been complied with and a final declaration as to
environmental impact has been duly determined by the entity duly authorized to make such
declaration and determination with respect to the specific project to be undertaken hereunder.
NOW, THEREFORE,
THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, IN THE COUNTY OF
SUFFOLK, NEW YORK, HEREBY RESOLVES AS FOLLOWS:
Section 1. At the Biennial Town Election of the Town of Southold, in the County
of Suffolk, New York (hereinafter called the “Town”), to be held on November 6, 2007, the
Proposition referred to in Section 2 hereof shall be submitted to the qualified voters and shall be
included in the Notice of such Election.
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Section 2. The Town Clerk is hereby authorized and directed to give notice of
submission of such Proposition at the Biennial Town Election (a) by publishing, at least ten (10)
days prior to such Biennial Town Election, a Notice thereof in form and substance as hereinafter
set forth, at least once in “SUFFOLK TIMES” and “NEWSDAY,” two newspapers having
general circulation in the Town, and hereby designated the official newspapers of the Town for
such publication, and (b) by posting, at least ten (10) days prior to such Special Town Election,
on the sign-board of the Town maintained pursuant to subdivision 6 of Section 30 of the Town
Law. Said Notice shall be in substantially the following form:
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW YORK
NOTICE OF SUBMISSION OF A PROPOSITION
AT THE BIENNIAL TOWN ELECTION TO BE
HELD ON NOVEMBER 6, 2007
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to the resolution duly adopted by the
Town Board of the Town of Southold, in the County of Suffolk, New York on August 28, 2007,
a Proposition shall be submitted to the qualified voters present and voting at the Biennial Town
Election to be held on November 6, 2007 in the Town of Southold. Such Biennial Town
Election shall be conducted at the time and places and in accordance with procedures determined
pursuant to applicable law and by the Suffolk County Board of Elections. Such Proposition shall
be in substantially the following form:
PROPOSITION
SHALL THE RESOLUTION ENTITLED: “Bond Resolution of the Town of
Southold, New York, adopted August 28, 2007, authorizing the acquisition of
interests or rights in agricultural lands, including development rights in open
agricultural lands; provided, however, that no such interests or rights in such
agricultural lands shall be acquired until all relevant provisions of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act have been complied with and a final
declaration as to environmental impact has been duly declared; stating the
estimated maximum cost thereof is $4,000,000; further authorizing the Town to
reserve the right to sell, lease, alienate or otherwise transfer such interests or
rights in agricultural lands hereinafter acquired pursuant hereto and to provide
financing for the preparation of plans and specifications and other studies
relative to the development and use of the acquired agricultural lands;
appropriating said amount therefor; authorizing the issuance of $4,000,000
serial bonds of said Town to finance said appropriation; stating that land
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installment purchase obligations are authorized to be issued pursuant to this
bond resolution; and determining that this bond resolution shall be subject to a
mandatory referendum,” BE APPROVED?
An abstract of said bond resolution, concisely stating the purpose and effect
thereof, is as follows:
FIRST: RECITING pursuant to Section 247 of the New York General Municipal
Law, constituting Chapter 24 of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York (hereinafter
called “Section 247”), the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York (hereinafter called the
“Town”), is authorized to acquire agricultural lands used in bona fide agricultural production as
set forth in Section 247; such acquisition of interests or rights in agricultural land located
throughout the Town must be found, determined and deemed to be necessary, in the public
interest and a proper public purpose of the Town in accordance with the findings and
determinations of the State Legislature as set forth in Section 247; in pursuance thereof, the
Town desires to (i) implement the agricultural land acquisition and financing program hereinafter
described, (ii) authorize the issuance of land installment purchase obligations for the purpose of
financing the acquisition of such interests or rights in agricultural land, (iii) reserve the right to
sell, lease, alienate or otherwise transfer such interests or rights in agricultural land hereinafter
acquired pursuant hereto, as may be permitted by law and subject to such terms, conditions and
restrictions as may be determined by the Town Board, and (iv) provide financing for the
preparation of plans and specifications and other studies relative to the development and use of
the acquired agricultural land, in conformity with Section 247; pursuant to §617.5(c) 21 and 27
of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act (hereinafter called “SEQRA”),
constituting Article 8 of the New York Environmental Conservation Law, this undertaking is and
has been determined by the Town Board, acting as lead agency, to be a Type II action requiring
no further action pursuant to SEQRA, provided, however, that no agricultural land shall be
acquired and no improvements or enhancements to any Town facilities shall be undertaken
pursuant to this resolution until all applicable provisions of SEQRA, have been complied with
and a determination of significance has been duly declared with respect to each specific project
to be undertaken hereunder; the Town Board of the Town has further determined that it is
appropriate and in the best interests of the Town to submit a Proposition for the approval or
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disapproval of this bond resolution to the qualified voters present and voting at the Biennial
Town Election to be held on November 6, 2007;
SECOND: STATING that the Town Board finds, determines and deems the
acquisition of interests or rights in agricultural land throughout the Town for such purposes to be
in the public interest and a proper public purpose of the Town in accordance with the findings
and determinations of the New York State Legislature; AUTHORIZING the Town to acquire by
purchase, gift, grant, bequest, devise, lease or otherwise, the fee or any lesser interest,
development right, easement, covenant or other contractual right necessary to achieve the
purposes of Section 247, in various parcels of agricultural land, including, but not limited to,
development rights in open agricultural lands, within the Town, for the preservation of open
spaces and areas and to maintain and enhance the conservation of natural or scenic resources,
after due notice and a public hearing, pursuant to the provisions of Section 247 and applicable
provisions of the Town of Southold Code, including incidental costs incurred in relation thereto,
such acquisition being hereby found, determined and deemed to be necessary and in the public
interest and a proper public purpose of the Town in accordance with the findings and
determinations set forth in Section 247; provided, however, that no such right, including the fee
or any lesser interest, development right, easement, covenant, or other contractual right in any
piece or parcel of such agricultural lands shall be so acquired until all relevant provisions of the
State Environmental Quality Review Act (“SEQRA”), have been complied with and a final
declaration as to environmental impact has been duly declared by the entity duly authorized to
make such determination and declaration; FURTHER AUTHORIZING the Town to retain the
right to sell, lease, alienate or otherwise transfer such interests or rights in agricultural land
hereinafter acquired pursuant hereto, as may be permitted by law and subject to such terms,
conditions and restrictions as may be determined by the Town Board, and to provide financing
for the preparation of plans and specifications and other studies relative to the development and
use of the acquired agricultural land, in conformity with Section 247; STATING the estimated
maximum cost thereof is $4,000,000; APPROPRIATING $4,000,000 to pay said cost; and
STATING the plan of financing includes the issuance of $4,000,000 serial bonds of the Town
and the levy and collection of taxes upon all the taxable real property within the Town to pay the
principal of said bonds and interest thereon;
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THIRD: AUTHORIZING the issuance of $4,000,000 serial bonds of the Town
pursuant to the Local Finance Law of the State of New York (“Law”) to finance said
appropriation;
FOURTH: DETERMINING and STATING the period of probable usefulness
applicable to the class of objects or purposes for which said bonds are authorized to be issued is
thirty (30) years; that all or a portion of such indebtedness may be issued in the form of a land
installment purchase obligation or obligations pursuant to Section 29.10 of the Law; the proceeds
of the bonds may be used to reimburse the Town for expenditures made after the effective date
hereof for the purpose for which said bonds are authorized; and the proposed maturity of said
serial bonds will exceed five (5) years;
FIFTH: DETERMINING that said bonds or land installment purchase obligations
and any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of said bonds and the renewals of said
bond anticipation notes shall be general obligations of the Town; and PLEDGING to their
payment the faith and credit of the Town;
SIXTH: DELEGATING to the Supervisor the powers and duties as to the
issuance of said bonds and any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation of said bonds, or
the renewals thereof and any land installment purchase obligations; and
SEVENTH: DETERMINING that a Proposition for the approval or disapproval
of this bond resolution shall be submitted to the qualified voters of the Town at the Biennial
Town Election to be held on November 6, 2007 and that this bond resolution shall take effect
upon such approval.
Said Proposition shall appear on the ballot label to be inserted in the voting
machines to be used for voting in substantially the following form:
PROPOSITION
YES NO
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SHALL THE RESOLUTION ENTITLED: “Bond Resolution of the Town
of Southold, New York, adopted August 28, 2007, authorizing the
acquisition of interests or rights in agricultural lands, including
development rights in open agricultural lands; provided, however, that no
such interests or rights in such agricultural lands shall be acquired until all
relevant provisions of the State Environmental Quality Review Act have
been complied with and a final declaration as to environmental impact has
been duly declared; stating the estimated maximum cost thereof is
$4,000,000; further authorizing the Town to reserve the right to sell, lease,
alienate or otherwise transfer such interests or rights in agricultural lands
hereinafter acquired pursuant hereto and to provide financing for the
preparation of plans and specifications and other studies relative to the
development and use of the acquired agricultural lands; appropriating said
amount therefor; authorizing the issuance of $4,000,000 serial bonds of
said Town to finance said appropriation; stating that land installment
purchase obligations are authorized to be issued pursuant to this bond
resolution; and determining that this bond resolution shall be subject to a
mandatory referendum,” BE APPROVED?
By order of the Town Board
Dated: August 28, 2007
Section 3. In addition to the foregoing, the Town Board hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to do the following:
(a) To cause a certified copy of this resolution to be forwarded to the Suffolk
County Planning Commission, as required by the Laws of the State of
New York; and
(b) To maintain and distribute copies hereof, ready for public review and
inspection in the Office of the Town Clerk and any and all other locations
deemed necessary by the Town Clerk and the Town Attorney to comply
with New York State Law regarding referenda; and
(c) To take all necessary steps, with assistance of the Town Attorney, to
ensure that such Proposition is properly placed before the duly qualified
Electors of the Town of Southold at the Biennial Town Election
referenced hereinabove.
Section 4. After said bond resolution shall take effect, the Town Clerk is hereby
directed to cause said bond resolution to be published, in summary, in substantially the form
annexed hereto and made a part hereof and designated Exhibit “A,” in each of the newspapers
referred to in Section 2 hereof, and hereby designated the official newspapers of the Town for
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said publication, together with a Notice in substantially the form as provided by Section 81.00 of
the Local Finance Law, constituting Chapter 33-a of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New
York.
Section 5. This resolution shall take effect immediately.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Initiator
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-717
CATEGORY: Seqra
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Ag PDD LL SEQRA
RESOLVED“A
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby finds that the proposed
Local Law in relation to an Agricultural Planned Development District”
is classified as an
Unlisted Action pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations, 6 NYCRR Section 617, and that the
Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby establishes itself as lead agency for the
uncoordinated review of this action and issues a Negative Declaration for the action in
accordance with the recommendation of Mark Terry dated May 4, 2007, and authorizes
Supervisor Scott A. Russell to sign the short form EAF in accordance therewith.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Seconder
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??William P. Edwards Initiator
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Voter
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
2007-718
CATEGORY: Enact Local Law
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Enact AgPPD Local Law
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WHEREAS
there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk
“A Local Law in
County, New York, on the 31st day of July, 2007 a Local Law entitled
relation to an Agricultural Planned Development District”
, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVEDpublic hearing on the
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a
aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold, New York,
th
on the 28 day of August at 7:45 p.m.
at which time all interested persons will be given an
opportunity to be heard.
“A Local Law in relation to an Agricultural Planned
The proposed Local Law entitled,
Development District”
reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 20 of 2007
“A Local Law in relation to an Agricultural Planned Development
A Local Law entitled,
District”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Legislative Intent.
Farmland is a critical component of the Town of Southold’s rural character. Agriculture
provides the cornerstone of the land use environment valued by year-round residents as well as
visitors. Numerous planning documents and studies in the Town’s comprehensive planning over
the past 20 years have recognized this value and have recommended strategies to preserve this
key resource. In recent years, the Town has engaged in an aggressive effort to preserve farmland
through the use of a variety of conservation tools, most notably the purchase of development
rights. The Town has joined with other governmental agencies at the Federal, State and County
levels, and with conservation groups such as the Peconic Land Trust to further its efforts.
In addition, the Town has made use of various long- and short-term funding options to purchase
interests in farmland, such as the Community Preservation Fund (CPF) transfer tax, voter-
approved bonds and grants. The Town Board recognizes that preservation efforts must continue
in accordance with the Town’s comprehensive planning efforts and initiatives. Additional funds
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will be required, and if possible, leveraged, to enable the Town to continue to purchase interests
in farmland and retain the Town’s rural character.
The Town Board determines that its land preservation efforts can best be accomplished
through a number of legislative initiatives. This local law creates an Agricultural Planned
Development District, a floating zone classification. The Agricultural Planned Development
District is intended to encourage the preservation and conservation of farmland, while preserving
land equity. It is intended to provide incentive to Landowners dedicated to the preservation and
conservation of farmland. New York State Town Law Sections 261-a and 261-c provide the
framework to accomplish these goals.
The Town Board seeks through this legislation to provide for the incremental sale of
development rights by landowners whose property is actually used in agricultural production.
This will be accomplished by providing a source of funds to facilitate agricultural production
without requiring the sale of all development rights applicable to the property, at the same time
reducing the density potential on the property. The benefit to the Town, in addition to
facilitating agricultural production, is the assurance that the Town will have the option purchase
the remaining development rights on a parcel, excepting those that are necessary for a
conservation subdivision at the density/open space percentage as required by this legislation.
II. Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended to create
a new Article XXX, as follows:
Sec. 280-170. Purpose.
The Agricultural Planned Development District emphasizes the importance of agriculture as both
a vital economic base and as a land form that provides the town with much of its rural character
and scenic beauty. This program will provide the landowner with another mechanism to access
the equity in his land by providing him with an expeditious means to incrementally sell his
development rights to facilitate the preservation of farmland without having to subdivide his
property. The development rights can be sold on an incremental basis while assuring the Town
of the opportunity to purchase the remaining development rights applicable to the property,
except those that may be used to develop a conservation subdivision pursuant to 280-181(B).
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This Agricultural Planned Development District creates a mechanism whereby the property can
be rezoned AgPDD upon application of the landowner.
280-171 Definition
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS -- The rights permitted to a lot, parcel, or area of land under a
zoning ordinance or local law regarding permissible use, area, density, bulk, or height of
improvements executed thereon.
280-172. Classification.
A. The Agricultural Planned Development District (AgPDD) is established as a Planned
Development District pursuant to Town Law Section 261-c.
B. The AgPDD classification may be considered on a floating zone basis. Upon rezoning to
the AgPDD classification, all principal and accessory uses, restrictions and controls listed in the
specific AgPDD shall govern the lands subject to the rezoning.
280-173. Requirements for Eligibility.
All properties meeting the standards and criteria set forth in this Article shall be deemed
eligible for rezoning as an AgPDD. In order to be considered for rezoning to AgPDD, lands in
the Town of Southold must meet all of the following criteria:
A. The lands must consist of a sub-dividable parcel of at least seven (7)acres meeting the
Town’s preservation goals and included in the Community Preservation Project Plan (CPPP),
which may consist of a lot designated as a separate tax map number, or of two or more
contiguous lots with separate tax map numbers. A landowner may also apply for the rezoning of
a parcel contiguous to property already zoned AgPDD or already preserved, even if smaller than
seven (7) acres.
B. The parcel must be enrolled in an agricultural district or individual commitment, pursuant
to Article 25AA of New York State Agriculture and Markets Law.
C. The Town Board must find that the parcel provides an environmental, physical,
economic, aesthetic, social or cultural benefit to the Town.
280-174. Zoning Approval; Application and review procedure.
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The Town Board may rezone lands from that of their underlying zoning district to the AgPDD
classification upon written application of the landowner pursuant to this Article.
A. Application. An applicant shall submit two (2) copies of the following to the Town
Board:
1. Form of Application approved by the Town Board, including the name of the owner
and/or applicant, description of current use of the property, and disclosure affidavit;
2. Deed covering each parcel for which application is made;
3. Survey or map showing each parcel proposed to be rezoned to AgPDD, and any
improvements on each parcel.
B. Upon receipt of a completed application, the Town Board shall review the application at
a worksession and make a preliminary determination whether the Board is interested in
considering rezoning of the parcel to AgPDD. If the Town Board is interested in considering the
rezoning, it shall refer the application to the Planning Board and the Land Preservation
Committee for review and recommendation.
C Upon receipt of the application, the Land Preservation Committee shall consider the
application at its next meeting and prepare recommendations to the Town Board with a copy to
the Planning Board.
D. If the applicant seeks agricultural and/or residential structure areas, the placement shall
be agreed upon among the Land Preservation Committee, the Planning Board and the landowner.
E. Upon recommendation of the Planning Board and the and the Land Preservation
Committee, the Land Preservation Coordinator shall commission a survey and a title search of
the property, which will be forwarded to the Planning Department upon receipt.
F. The Planning Department will calculate the yield on the parcel based on the zoning in
effect at the time of the application. Yield will be calculated as follows:
Buildable Lands ÷ Minimum Lot Area of Zoning District= Yield on Entire Parcel.
The landowner will be informed of the number of development rights available on the parcel.
Any fractional amount shall be rounded down to the nearest whole number. Any existing non-
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agricultural production uses shall reduce the number of development rights available for sale on
a parcel.
G. Environmental Review. The Town Board shall comply with SEQRA in acting upon any
application for the rezoning of any lands to the AgPDD classification.
H. The Planning Board shall provide a report within ninety (90) days of the date of the
meeting at which the referral is received from the Town Board. No action shall be taken by the
Town Board until receipt of the Planning Board report, or the expiration of its 60-day review
period, whichever comes first. The review period may be extended by mutual consent of the
applicant, the Town Board, the Planning Board, and the Land Preservation Committee.
I. Planning Board Report. The Planning Board may recommend approval, approval with
conditions, or disapproval of the proposed rezoning. In preparing its report, the Planning Board
shall take into account the recommendations of the Southold Town Farm and Farmland
Protection Strategy, adopted as policy by Town Board resolution of January 18, 2000 and
supporting documents, the recommendations of the Land Preservation Committee, the studies
contained in the Town’s comprehensive planning efforts and initiatives, the existing
characteristics of the property and the surrounding properties, the environmental, social,
physical, aesthetic, economic and cultural aspects of the property and its surroundings, and such
other factors as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this Article and this Chapter. The
Planning Board’s report shall provide detailed reasons for its recommendation.
J. Public Hearing. Within thirty (30) days of the receipt of the Planning Board report, or the
expiration of the Planning Board review period, whichever occurs first, the Town Board may
schedule a public hearing on the application, with the same notice prescribed for zoning
amendments.
K. Town Board Action. Within thirty (30) days of the date of the closing of the public
hearing, the Town Board shall either approve or disapprove the rezoning and file its decision
with the Town Clerk, with notice to the applicant. In approving such rezoning, the Town board
shall determine, after considering the Planning Board’s recommendation, that the subject parcel
contains adequate resources, environmental quality and public facilities, including adequate
transportation, water supply, waste disposal and fire protection, and that there will be no
significant environmentally damaging consequences. If approved, the Town Board shall amend
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the zoning map of the Town in accordance with the approval and forward a copy of the
resolution containing the decision to the Planning Board, the Land Preservation Committee, the
Agricultural Advisory Committee, and the applicant. Any such approval shall be subject to the
Conditions of Approval as set forth below in 280-175 of this Chapter.
280-175. Conditions of Approval.
A. The boundaries of the re-zoned property, permitted uses thereon, and number of
development rights shall become part of this Town Code and the Zoning Map shall be amended
accordingly.
B The Land Preservation department shall coordinate the closing and filing of the easement
in accordance with their normal procedures for purchase of development rights.
C Easement.
1. Following a public hearing and approval of the rezoning pursuant to Chapter 280 of
the Town Code and Chapter 247 of the General Municipal Law, the Landowner shall
sell at least one (1) development right to the Town. The landowner shall file a
Preservation Easement (the “Easement”) on the property following the sale, in the
form provided by the Town, which shall indicate that at least one (1) development
right has been sold, and shall also indicate the number of remaining development
rights available for sale or transfer from the parcel.
a. The easement shall be in a standard form, acceptable to the Landowner and
the Town Attorney and shall be consistent with the terms of the AgPDD. The
standard form may be amended if the landowner voluntarily requests
additional restrictions or prohibitions and such restrictions are acceptable to
the Town Attorney.
b. The easement shall be recorded in the Office of the Suffolk County Clerk.
280-176 Price for Development Rights
The Town Board shall by resolution, at least annually, set a price to be paid by the Town for AgPDD
development rights sales for the purpose of this Chapter. This price shall be the fair market value of
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development rights for non-waterfront farmland of average size with an average amount of road
frontage, obtained from two independent certified appraisers.
280-177. Subsequent Development Right Sales to the Town
A. At any time, the landowner may offer to sell development rights on all or part of the parcel that
has been zoned AgPDD. The development rights may be sold to the Town or to others provided that
the landowner enters into a Preservation Easement on the property in a form acceptable to the Town.
The Preservation Easement shall list the number of development rights sold and the number
remaining, based on the yield for the parcel as set forth at the time of rezoning to AgPDD.
B. At the discretion of the Town, the Town may commission a new survey and a title search of the
property.
C. The Land Preservation Coordinator shall make a determination of the number of development
rights remaining for purchase on the parcel based on the original yield as calculated by the Planning
Department less any development rights sold, and shall so advise the Land Preservation Committee.
The Land Preservation Committee shall make a recommendation to the Town Board on the purchase
of development rights.
D. The Town Board shall hold a public hearing on the question of the purchase of development
rights from the AgPDD zoned parcel, and may adopt a resolution approving or disapproving the sale.
Any resolution shall set forth the number of development rights purchased and the number
remaining on the parcel. At the time of sale, a preservation easement as set forth above in 280-175
shall be filed indicating the additional number of development rights that have been extinguished
from the parcel, and the remaining number of development rights.
E. Development rights may be purchased by the Town in increments of one-half (1/2) of a
development right.
F. The Town Board shall not be required to purchase development rights from a parcel zoned
AgPDD sooner than 180 (one hundred and eighty) days after the previous purchase on the same
parcel, and any refusal by the Town to do so shall not be considered an election not to purchase
pursuant to §280-180E.
G. Upon the landowner’s application, the Town shall purchase ten percent (10%) of the landowners
residual development rights, or not less than one full development right, per calendar year. Any
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fractional amount shall be rounded to the nearest half of a development right. The Town may, if
requested by the landowner, purchase more or less than ten percent each year.
H. No application for sale of development rights received after November 1 of any calendar
year shall be closed until the following calendar year, unless the Town and the landowner
mutually agree to close in the same year.
I. Participation in the AgPDD shall not preclude the landowner from participation in other
preservation programs. If a landowner wishes to negotiate with the Town for the sale of
development rights, the Town will only consider a Conservation Subdivision pursuant to
280-181(B), or the sale of all remaining development rights on the parcel, and the Town will
only pay for the appraisal one time. If an agreement is not reached between the Town and
the landowner, subsequent negotiations and application for sale of development rights
through the Land Preservation program will be permitted; however, the Town will obtain the
appraisal at the expense of the landowner.
J. Unless otherwise specified, the price for development rights for subsequent development right
sales to the Town will be as set forth in Section 280-176.
280-178. (Reserved)
280-179. Clearing House.
The Land Preservation Coordinator will maintain a log indicating the development rights sold and
remaining on any parcel zoned AgPDD. The easement executed and recorded by the landowner at
the time of each sale will indicate the number of development rights sold and the number remaining
on the parcel.
§280-180 Conditions
A. Any reserved area for development shall be set by the Town Board and defined in the Town
Code at the time of rezoning to AgPDD. A landowner may apply to the Town Board to amend such
code if circumstances have changed since the rezoning. Any new additional reserved area will be
deducted from the available development rights on the parcel, and any reduction in the reserved area
may increase the development rights available on the parcel. Any reserved area for development
shall not exceed 20% of the buildable area of the parcel.
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B. Any structure proposed on a parcel which is zoned AgPDD will require the approval of the Land
Preservation Committee prior to issuance of a building permit. The approval of the committee shall
take into account the conditions set forth in the preservation easement on the property.
C. If a residential structure exists on property zoned AgPDD, any new structure accessory to such
residence must be located within 150 feet of the existing residential structure.
D. Any structures, other than those for agricultural production, shall reduce the number of
development rights available for sale or transfer.
E. If the Town elects not to purchase 10% of development rights as set forth in 280-177G, the
landowner may pursue a Standard Subdivision as set forth in §280-181C. If there has been a
subsequent request by the landowner for purchase of development rights and an agreement by the
Town to purchase at least 10% development rights pursuant to §280-177G, the landowner is not
eligible to pursue a standard subdivision.
§280-181 Subdivision
A. If the landowner of property zoned AgPDD files for subdivision of the property, the land
Preservation Coordinator shall advise the Planning Board of the number of development rights
remaining on the parcel.
B. Any conservation subdivision of AgPDD property must accomplish preservation of eighty
percent (80%) of the parcel, and density reduction of seventy-five percent (75%) of the original
yield. If the landowner elects to pursue this Conservation Subdivision, the land preserved by sale of
development rights shall apply toward the required preservation component.
C. If the Town elects not to purchase 10% of development rights as set forth in 280-177G, the
landowner may pursue a Standard Subdivision. For a period of ten years from the date of the Town’s
election not to purchase development rights pursuant to §280-177G, the yield for the subdivision
shall be based on the zoning in effect on the parcel at the time it was zoned AgPDD, after which the
yield shall be that of the underlying zone in effect as of the date of the subdivision. Land already
preserved by sale of development rights shall not be applied toward any preservation or subdivision
open space requirement or the yield calculation. The yield calculated pursuant to §280-174F shall
not be the yield for the standard subdivision. The standard subdivision yield shall be calculated
pursuant to Chapter 240 of the Town Code.
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III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law as
a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
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Albert Krupski Jr. Voter
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Adopted
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??William P. Edwards Seconder
Adopted as Amended
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Defeated ????????
Daniel C. Ross Voter
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Tabled
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Thomas H. Wickham Initiator
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Withdrawn
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Louisa P. Evans Voter
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Scott Russell Voter
VI. Public Hearings
1. Motion To:
Motion to recess to Public Hearing
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVEDbe and hereby is declared
that this meeting of the Southold Town Board
Recessed in order to hold a public hearing.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Daniel C. Ross, Councilman
SECONDER:
Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans
2. Ph LL 8/28 7:45 Pm AgPPD
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: there has been presented to the
Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the 31st day of July, 2007
“A Local Law in relation to an Agricultural Planned Development
a Local Law entitled
District”
, and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main
hold a
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Road, Southold, New York, on the 28 day of August at 7:45 p.m.
at which time all
interested persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
“A Local Law in relation to an Agricultural Planned
The proposed Local Law entitled,
Development District”
reads as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 2007
“A Local Law in relation to an Agricultural Planned Development
A Local Law entitled,
District”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Legislative Intent.
Farmland is a critical component of the Town of Southold’s rural character. Agriculture
provides the cornerstone of the land use environment valued by year-round residents as well as
visitors. Numerous planning documents and studies in the Town’s comprehensive planning over
the past 20 years have recognized this value and have recommended strategies to preserve this
key resource. In recent years, the Town has engaged in an aggressive effort to preserve farmland
through the use of a variety of conservation tools, most notably the purchase of development
rights. The Town has joined with other governmental agencies at the Federal, State and County
levels, and with conservation groups such as the Peconic Land Trust to further its efforts.
In addition, the Town has made use of various long- and short-term funding options to purchase
interests in farmland, such as the Community Preservation Fund (CPF) transfer tax, voter-
approved bonds and grants. The Town Board recognizes that preservation efforts must continue
in accordance with the Town’s comprehensive planning efforts and initiatives. Additional funds
will be required, and if possible, leveraged, to enable the Town to continue to purchase interests
in farmland and retain the Town’s rural character.
The Town Board determines that its land preservation efforts can best be accomplished
through a number of legislative initiatives. This local law creates an Agricultural Planned
Development District, a floating zone classification. The Agricultural Planned Development
District is intended to encourage the preservation and conservation of farmland, while preserving
land equity. It is intended to provide incentive to Landowners dedicated to the preservation and
conservation of farmland. New York State Town Law Sections 261-a and 261-c provide the
framework to accomplish these goals.
The Town Board seeks through this legislation to provide for the incremental sale of
development rights by landowners whose property is actually used in agricultural production.
This will be accomplished by providing a source of funds to facilitate agricultural production
without requiring the sale of all development rights applicable to the property, at the same time
reducing the density potential on the property. The benefit to the Town, in addition to
facilitating agricultural production, is the assurance that the Town will have the option purchase
the remaining development rights on a parcel, excepting those that are necessary for a
conservation subdivision at the density/open space percentage as required by this legislation.
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II. Chapter 280 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended to create
a new Article XXX, as follows:
Sec. 280-170. Purpose.
The Agricultural Planned Development District emphasizes the importance of agriculture
as both a vital economic base and as a land form that provides the town with much of its rural
character and scenic beauty. This program will provide the landowner with another mechanism
to access the equity in his land by providing him with development rights that can be
immediately transferred or sold, incrementally or at one time, to facilitate the preservation of
farmland without having to subdivide his property. The development rights can be sold on an
incremental basis while assuring the Town of the opportunity to purchase the remaining
development rights applicable to the property, except those that may be used to develop a
conservation subdivision. This Agricultural Planned Development District creates a mechanism
whereby the property can be rezoned upon application of the landowner.
280-171 Definition
DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS -- The rights permitted to a lot, parcel, or area of land under a
zoning ordinance or local law regarding permissible use, area, density, bulk, or height of
improvements executed thereon.
280-172. Classification.
A. The Agricultural Planned Development District (AgPDD) is established as a Planned
Development District pursuant to Town Law Section 261-c.
B. The AgPDD classification may be considered on a floating zone basis. Upon rezoning to
the AgPDD classification, all principal and accessory uses, restrictions and controls listed in the
specific AgPDD shall govern the lands subject to the rezoning.
280-173. Requirements for Eligibility.
All properties meeting the standards and criteria set forth in this Article shall be deemed
eligible for rezoning as an AgPDD. In order to be considered for rezoning to AgPDD, lands in
the Town of Southold must meet all of the following criteria:
A. The lands must consist of a sub-dividable parcel of at least seven (7)acres meeting the
Town’s preservation goals and included in the Community Preservation Project Plan (CPPP),
which may consist of a lot designated as a separate tax map number, or of two or more
contiguous lots with separate tax map numbers. A landowner may also apply for the rezoning of
a parcel contiguous to property already zoned AgPDD or already preserved, even if smaller than
seven (7) acres.
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B. The parcel must be enrolled in an agricultural district or individual commitment, pursuant
to Article 25AA of New York State Agriculture and Markets Law.
C. The Town Board must find that the parcel provides an environmental, physical,
economic, aesthetic, social or cultural benefit to the Town.
280-174. Zoning Approval; Application and review procedure.
The Town Board may rezone lands from that of their underlying zoning district to the AgPDD
classification upon written application of the landowner pursuant to this Article.
A. Application. An applicant shall submit two (2) copies of the following to the Town
Board:
1. Form of Application approved by the Town Board, including the name of the owner
and/or applicant, description of current use of the property, and disclosure affidavit;
2. Deed(s) covering all lands for which application is made;
3. Survey(s) or map(s) showing all lands proposed to be rezoned to AgPDD, and any
improvements on those lands.
B. Upon receipt of a completed application, the Town Board shall review the application at
a worksession and make a preliminary determination whether the Board is interested in
considering rezoning of the parcel to AgPDD. If the Town Board is interested in considering the
rezoning, it shall refer the application to the Planning Board and the Land Preservation
Committee for review and recommendation.
C Upon receipt of the application, the Land Preservation Committee shall consider the
application at its next meeting and prepare recommendations to the Town Board with a copy to
the Planning Board.
D. If the applicant seeks agricultural and/or residential structure areas, the placement shall
be agreed upon among the Land Preservation Committee, the Planning Board and the landowner.
E. Upon recommendation of the Planning Board and the and the Land Preservation
Committee, the Land Preservation Coordinator shall commission a survey and a title search of
the property, which will be forwarded to the Planning Department upon receipt.
F. The Planning Department will calculate the yield on the parcel based on the zoning in
effect at the time of the application. Yield will be calculated as follows:
Buildable Lands ÷ Minimum Lot Area of Zoning District= Yield on Entire Parcel.
The landowner will be informed of the number of development rights available on the parcel.
Any fractional amount shall be rounded down to the nearest whole number. Any existing non-
agricultural production uses shall reduce the number of development rights available for sale on
a parcel.
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G. Environmental Review. The Town Board shall comply with SEQRA in acting upon any
application for the rezoning of any lands to the AgPDD classification.
H. The Planning Board and other committees shall provide a report within ninety (90) days
of the date of the meeting at which the referral is received from the Town Board. No action shall
be taken by the Town Board until receipt of the Planning Board report and other Committee
reports, as applicable, or the expiration of its 60-day review period, whichever comes first. The
review period may be extended by mutual consent of the applicant, the Town Board, the
Planning Board, and the Land Preservation Committee.
I. Planning Board Report. The Planning Board may recommend approval, approval with
conditions, or disapproval of the proposed rezoning. In preparing its report, the Planning Board
shall take into account the recommendations of the Southold Town Farm and Farmland
Protection Strategy, adopted as policy by Town Board resolution of January 18, 2000 and
supporting documents, the recommendations of the Land Preservation Committee, the studies
contained in the Town’s comprehensive planning efforts and initiatives, the existing
characteristics of the property and the surrounding properties, the environmental, social,
physical, aesthetic, economic and cultural aspects of the property and its surroundings, and such
other factors as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this Article and this Chapter. The
Planning Board’s report shall provide detailed reasons for its recommendation.
J. Public Hearing. Within thirty (30) days of the receipt of the Planning Board report, or the
expiration of the Planning Board review period, whichever occurs first, the Town Board may
schedule a public hearing on the application, with the same notice prescribed for zoning
amendments.
K. Town Board Action. Within thirty (30) days of the date of the closing of the public
hearing, the Town Board shall either approve or disapprove the rezoning and file its decision
with the Town Clerk, with notice to the applicant. In approving such rezoning, the Town board
shall determine, after considering the Planning Board’s recommendation, that the subject parcel
contains adequate resources, environmental quality and public facilities, including adequate
transportation, water supply, waste disposal and fire protection, and that there will be no
significant environmentally damaging consequences. If approved, the Town Board shall amend
the zoning map of the Town in accordance with the approval and forward a copy of the
resolution containing the decision to the Planning Board, the Land Preservation Committee, the
Agricultural Advisory Committee, and the applicant. Any such approval shall be subject to the
Conditions of Approval as set forth below in 280-175 of this Chapter.
280-175. Conditions of Approval.
A. The boundaries of the re-zoned property, permitted uses thereon, and number of
development rights shall become part of this Town Code and the Zoning Map shall be amended
accordingly.
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B The Land Preservation department shall coordinate the closing and filing of the easement
in accordance with their normal procedures for purchase of development rights.
C Easement.
1. Following a public hearing and approval of the rezoning pursuant to Chapter 280 of
the Town Code and Chapter 247 of the General Municipal Law, the Landowner shall
sell at least one (1) development right to the Town. The landowner shall file a
Preservation Easement (the “Easement”) on the property following the sale, in the
form provided by the Town, which shall indicate that at least one (1) development
right has been sold, and shall also indicate the number of remaining development
rights available for sale or transfer from the parcel.
a. The easement shall be in a standard form, acceptable to the Landowner and
the Town Attorney and shall be consistent with the terms of the AgPDD.
b. The easement shall be recorded in the Office of the Suffolk County Clerk.
280-176 Price for Development Rights
The Town Board shall by resolution, at least annually, set a price to be paid by the Town for
AgPDD development rights sales. This price shall be the fair market value of development rights
for non-waterfront farmland of average size with an average amount of road frontage, obtained
from two independent certified appraisers.
280-177. Subsequent Development Right Sales to the Town
A. At any time, the landowner may offer to sell development rights on all or part of the
parcel that has been zoned AgPDD. The development rights may be sold to the Town or to
others provided that the landowner enters into a conservation easement on the property in a form
acceptable to the Town. The conservation easement shall list the number of development rights
sold and the number remaining, based on the yield for the parcel as set forth at the time of
rezoning to AgPDD.
B. At the discretion of the Town, the Town may commission a new survey and a title search
of the property.
C. The Land Preservation Coordinator shall make a determination of the number of
development rights remaining for purchase on the parcel based on the original yield as calculated
by the Planning Department less any development rights sold, and shall so advise the Land
Preservation Committee. The Land Preservation Committee shall make a recommendation to the
Town Board on the purchase of development rights.
D. The Town Board shall hold a public hearing on the question of the purchase of
development rights from the AgPDD zoned parcel, and may adopt a resolution approving or
disapproving the sale. Any resolution shall set forth the number of development rights purchased
and the number remaining on the parcel. At the time of sale, a preservation easement as set forth
above in 280-175 shall be filed indicating the additional number of development rights that have
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been extinguished from the parcel, and the remaining number of development rights.
E. Development rights may be purchased by the Town in increments of one-half (1/2) of a
development right.
F. The Town Board shall not be required to purchase development rights from a parcel
zoned AgPDD sooner than 180 (one hundred and eighty) days after the previous purchase on the
same parcel, and any refusal by the Town to do so shall not be considered an election not to
purchase pursuant to §280-180E.
G. Upon the landowner’s application, the Town shall purchase ten percent (10%) of the
landowners residual development rights, or not less than one full development right, per calendar
year. Any fractional amount shall be rounded to the nearest half of a development right. The
Town may, if requested by the landowner, purchase more or less than ten percent each year.
H. No application for sale of development rights received after November 1 of any calendar year
shall be closed until the following calendar year, unless the Town and the landowner mutually
agree to close in the same year.
I. Participation in the AgPDD shall not preclude the landowner from participation in other
preservation programs, including but not limited to, negotiating with the Town for the sale of all
development rights. If the landowner chooses to negotiate with the Town for sale of development
rights, the Town will pay for the appraisal one time. Any subsequent negotiations and application
for sale of development rights through the Land Preservation program will be permitted,
however the Town will obtain the appraisal at the expense of the landowner.
280-178. (Reserved)
280-179. Clearing House.
The Land Preservation Coordinator will maintain a log indicating the development rights sold
and remaining on any parcel zoned AgPDD. The easement executed and recorded by the
landowner at the time of each sale will indicate the number of development rights sold and the
number remaining on the parcel.
§280-180 Conditions
A. Any reserved area for development shall be set by the Town Board and defined in the
Town Code at the time of rezoning to AgPDD. A landowner may apply to the Town Board to
amend such code if circumstances have changed since the rezoning. Any new additional reserved
area will be deducted from the available development rights on the parcel, and any reduction in
the reserved area may increase the development rights available on the parcel. Any reserved area
for development shall not exceed 20% of the buildable area of the parcel.
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B. Any structure proposed on a parcel which is zoned AgPDD will require the approval of
the Land Preservation Committee prior to issuance of a building permit. The approval of the
committee shall take into account the conditions set forth in the preservation easement on the
property.
C. If a residential structure exists on property zoned AgPDD, any new structure accessory to
such residence must be located within 150 feet of the existing residential structure.
D. Any structures, other than those for agricultural production, shall reduce the number of
development rights available for sale or transfer.
E. If the Town elects not to purchase 10% of development rights as set forth in 280-177G, the
landowner may pursue a Standard Subdivision as set forth in §280-181C. If there has been a
subsequent request by the landowner for purchase of development rights and an agreement by
the Town to purchase at least 10% development rights pursuant to §280-177G, the landowner is
not eligible to pursue a standard subdivision.
§280-181 Subdivision
A. If the landowner of property zoned AgPDD files for subdivision of the property, the land
Preservation Coordinator shall advise the Planning Board of the number of development rights
remaining on the parcel.
B. Any conservation subdivision of AgPDD property must accomplish preservation of eighty
percent (80%) of the parcel, and density reduction of seventy-five percent (75%) of the original
yield. If the landowner elects to pursue this Conservation Subdivision, the land preserved by sale
of development rights shall apply toward the required preservation component.
C. If the Town elects not to purchase 10% of development rights as set forth in 280-177G,
the landowner may pursue a Standard Subdivision. For a period of ten years from the date of the
Town’s election not to purchase development rights pursuant to §280-177G, the yield for the
subdivision shall be based on the zoning in effect on the parcel at the time it was zoned AgPDD,
after which the yield shall be that of the underlying zone in effect as of the date of the
subdivision. Any land preserved by sale of development rights shall not be applied toward any
preservation or subdivision open space requirement. The yield calculated pursuant to §280-174F
shall not be the yield for the standard subdivision. The standard subdivision yield shall be
calculated pursuant to Chapter 240 of the Town Code.
III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
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by law.
That is the substance of this public hearing. I have a series of comments that I will try to
summarize briefly. First of all, it has appeared as a local ad in the local newspaper. It has also
appeared as a legal on the Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside. I have before me a one page
memo from the Planning Board, dated August 28, 2007, regarding the Planning Board’s
comments on this local law. “As requested, the Planning Board and staff have reviewed the
above captioned local law and we support its adoption and we make the following comments and
recommendations. 1. In section 280-181 B states that any subdivision of Ag PDD property must
accomplish preservation of 80% and a density reduction of 75%. It should state rather, that the
preservation must be equal to a minimum of 80% of the buildable lands, not just the lands but the
buildable portions of those lands. 2. Section 280-181 C states that in the event the standard
subdivision option is pursued by the property owner, land preserved by the sale of development
rights shall not be applied toward any preservation or subdivision open space requirement. This
section also refers to Chapter 240 in the Town code. However, to be clear, it should also state
that within the proposed legislation, that the preserved land shall not be used for the purposes of
establishing yield. 3. A general concern of the Planning Board is how the proposed Ag PDD
will impact the existing land preservation program. The Board has the same concerns as the
Land Preservation Committee and defers to their memorandum to the Town Board dated August
23 of this year. I have a note from the Suffolk County Planning Commission, “Pursuant to the
requirements of section of the Administrative Code, the Suffolk County Planning Commission
considers this to be a matter for local determination as there is no apparent county wide or inter-
community impact.” There follows a memo which is rather lengthy, from the Land Preservation
Committee. Supervisor Russell, Town Board, This is in regard to a local law in relation to Ag
Planned Development District comments for tonight’s public hearing. The Land Preservation
Committee (this is drafted and sent by our Land Preservation Coordinator and from the members
of its committee) and I (meaning the coordinator) would like to submit the following comments
for this public hearing. In section 280-170, the second sentence needs clarifications and should
be re-written as follows: this program will provide the landowner with another mechanism to
access the equity in his land by providing him with an (this is the part they are introducing, they
wish to add) ‘providing him with an expeditious means to incrementally sell his’ development
rights. There follow some various other, I think I would call these editorial or technical revisions
without a lot of substantive changes. They are important but they are not changing the content of
it. It is largely for clarification. We have, when the Town Board has a chance to evaluate this
after the public hearing, we have actually taken into account most of these technical
recommendations from the Land Preservation Committee and we can review with you, with the
public, how these things can be integrated into the current document. General comments, at the
end, Legislation, once adopted, will require a significant amount of additional staff time;
Planning, Land Preservation, Attorney, to develop policies, procedures and standardized forms.
It is unknown whether the proposed Ag PDD will generate interest from landowners who would
not otherwise have pursued the existing PDR program. The existing, traditional purchase of
development rights program. If the proposed Ag PDD does resulting additional landowners
preserving their land by incremental amounts, then that program is worth the effort. If the
programs draws applicants from landowners who currently would otherwise have sold
development rights in total or near total, then perhaps the legislative program would not be worth
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the effort. 2. the proposal for the Town to reserve funds to purchase 10% of the development
rights enrolled in the Ag PDD may damage the existing preservation program. In recent years the
Town’s program has been very successful in closing preservation deals within a ‘take it or leave
it’ time that may or not be needed for the Ag PDD program, may hinder the Town’s ability to
continue with such projects. The Land Preservation Committee recommends that if an
incremental development rights program is established, the Town should fund it with bonds
dedicated to the incremental program and not use CPF funds for the purpose. 3. The change
implied in the proposed program for farmland owners being paid per development right instead
of per acre which is the usual case under the existing program, needs to be analyzed in detail in
order to avoid unintended consequences. Depending on exactly how development rights are
defined in the yield formula, may give a bonus to the same parcel in the incremental sales
program compared with the existing program. While a bonus to encourage preservation is not
necessarily a bad thing, the bonus was intended to be the ability to sell development rights
incrementally, offering an incentive over and above this, may result in landowners who would
actually apply to existing programs with large projects, would push them into applying to the
new program with much smaller projects and would therefore decrease the rate of preservation.
Land Preservation Committee recommends that the definitions and formulas used be analyzed in
detail so that their impact on values and the existing program is known. And finally, item 4, one
of the existing issues that sparked the initial interest in an incremental development rights
program is the IRS capital gains regulation. This requires payment of full capital gains upfront,
even in cases where the landowner accepts installment payments over time. It has been assumed
that the proposed Ag PDD program is a way around this, that will provide important tax benefits
to participants and therefore, an incentive to join the program. The Committee recommends that
this be researched and confirmed or denied by the IRS so that the Town and farmland owners
know exactly what the tax consequences of the program will be.” There follows a letter from Ed
Booth of 17235 Sound Avenue, Southold, New York. Ed Booth comments on this proposed
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local law, dated August 15. “Dear Town Board, This letter concerns the proposed land
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preservation law to be heard on August 28. Having given the proposal some thought, I discuss
the pros and cons as I see them. General comments, land preservation Southold is a process
tailored to the desires and needs of land owners and to the judgment of the Town as to the
urgency of preservation. A final agreement is reached on the easements appropriate for that
particular property. The proposed law takes a very different approach, which permits installment
sales of development rights at a fixed price for all sales with a single easement for all sales. The
new law is different from present laws in that it preserves later instead of now. This new
approach requires the proper language to safeguard the Town and landowners as much as
possible and I know that a lot of thought and discussion has gone into the details, the question
remains, is it a good instrument for land preservation? On the pro side; 1. The proposed law
permits the installment sale of development rights. This is viewed as an inducement to
preservation, it is another tool in the tool box. The need to keep the procedure simple leads to a
single price and a single easement. The simplicity of the procedure should allow the farmland
owner to obtain substantial money quickly, perhaps in only 30 days without fees to surveyors,
appraisers and attorneys. The easement will be written to allow Ag production the greatest
possible freedom. Con, the price will be too high per acre for a large lot and too low for a small
lot. This is because the price per acre decreases with increasing lot size while the price comes
from an average. The standard easement, if substantially more favorable to farming than the
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normal easements, may undercut the present program and/or may arouse the opposition of the
public. That is number one. Number two, his second point, on the pro side. The law allows the
sale of ½ a development right, that is to say one acre a year. The money could be used to
upgrade the farm, send children to college or provide tax free gifts to children. That is a pro. On
the con side, the law requires the farmer to preserve the land, either by sale of development
rights or proceeding with a conservation subdivision. There is no exit unless the Town reneges.
The conservation subdivision requires an 80/75 instead of the 80/60 resulting in fewer lots for
sale. His third point, the pro argument. The law protects the farmer from up-zoning. On the con
side, The may result in early up-zoning if the Town runs short of money but the same can be
said, of course, about the current program. Number four, on the pro side. The law allows the
farmer to average out over real estate market fluctuations. Con; the law does not allow the
farmer to wait for a high price and then sell all the development rights. However, the owner can
also apply to be in the current program as well as the PDD. Running the numbers shows that the
monetary yield can be the same from regular installment sales or a total sale upfront, depending
on market assumptions. Number five, pro; the law is intended to keep the farmer in a lower tax
bracket by installment sales. Con; the IRS may not agree. Enquiries are being made and efforts
are underway in Washington to aid installment sales. I do not know the results. Number six,
pro; the price set by the Town for development right with advice of the appraisers is published,
avoiding haggling and delays. Con; the Town may chose to offer less than the true value of the
right. however, language has been included to release the owner if the Town overtly ‘low balls’
the appraisal. Seven, pro; The law offers a new preservation tool which could be useful to
certain individuals depending on factors such as age, business needs, children etc. Con; The law
requires the Town to buy the development rights at the 10% level every year so that funds must
be set aside for that purpose. This can undercut the existing land preservation program unless
new sources of finances are found. And eight, pro; this law is restricted to farmland, owned or
rented, with intent to support the industry. Con; the law gives the opportunity for early
retirement by selling off a lot or two each year. The convenience of selling in the proposed
program may tempt earlier sales than in a conservation subdivision. And a final comment from
Mr. Booth, this report was prepared by me, Ed Booth, reflects my views. It has been somewhat
tempered by a rebuttal from John Sepenoski. I think it is fair to say that not all active farmers are
enthusiastic about the proposal, though it may well fit the specific needs of some. I would like to
hear an evaluation of the final proposal by banking and appraisal professionals as to the effect of
the PDD encumbrance on property values.’ I have an affidavit that it has appeared as a Town
legal on the Town Clerk’s bulletin board and with that, I believe the file is complete.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would, well, we have a strategy here. We know you are here to yell
at us for other things, so we kind of put that first to kind of dull your senses and take the edge
off. Would anybody like to comment on the Ag PDD pending local law?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Actually before the public comments, there are a couple of
comments here from the Planning Board that were pretty, I think Councilman Edwards has been
working really hard on this proposed legislation and maybe he should clarify a few things first, it
might answer some questions so that we don’t have, we don’t go around and around. You know,
before these questions come up.
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COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: I would be glad to do that, if you would like.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: By all means.
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: Well, first of all, with respect to the letter by the Planning Board,
I would like to propose a small amendment in response to their point number two, if you turn to
the very last page, which is section 280-181 C, the next to last sentence says ‘any land preserved
by sale of development rights’ their concern is that if somebody does do a full yield subdivision,
they shouldn’t get to count as the preserved land, land that has already been preserved by
purchase of the development rights. Which certainly no one could disagree with. I would like to
propose amending that to delete the word ‘any’ and insert the word ‘already’ between land and
preserved and I think that achieves exactly the purpose that they are looking for. That is, land
already preserved would therefore, could not be counted as part of the preservation in a full yield
subdivision. I have also inserted in a revised text here, I think all of the, most of the suggestions
from the Land Preservation Committee on cleaning up the language and minor emendations
made a lot of sense and they do appear in this draft in red and we can go into those afterwards as
amendments, if you would like.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board on the
issue of an Agricultural Planned Development District? Mr. Baiz?
CHRIS BAIZ: Chris Baiz, Southold. I would like to say that I think we have all worked fairly
rigorously on this and it’s as the result of an interest and a request from Councilman Krupski that
an incremental program such as this be developed as a tool for land preservation in the Town.
Especially where in the past several farm families could have used this in years of financial
duress. So I think that, we are headed in the right direction for an incremental sales program, not
just an all or nothing program. It also sets the tone for once a parcel is in the Ag PDD, that a
parcel is on its way to full preservation without putting the demand up front on the Town. If we
had 10 parcels come in in one year, we couldn’t deal with them on an all or nothing basis. On
this incremental basis, it can be done more easily. In terms of the comments that Councilman
Wickham had from the Land Preservation Committee, I just want to make sure that both in the
establishment of the price per development right, this is going to be in a very important
methodology and number because it will be a hallmark or benchmark of the entire preservation
program. And as I believe the legislation states and the additional comments and the Land
Preservation Committee letter, it is very important that that price is, here it doesn’t say, it just
says two appraisers. It doesn’t say anything about what happens to the two appraisers numbers
and I think we need clarification there, that it is the average of or what have the arithmetic
average of. And also, in the Land Preservation comments there was the concern that if the two
appraisals are divergent enough, they might warrant a third appraisal and so the Land
Preservation Committee was actually recommending three appraisals, the two, if all are within
10% of each other, the arithmetic average. If one is outside of 10% of the other two, through the
outlier away. And that way, the Town Board doesn’t get involved in establishing a price, the
price is established fairly by the appraisals. The other key issue is that a standard price warrants
a standard easement. The price or value being determined in the appraisals is for the exclusion
of the right to residential development on that space and therefore, that easement language
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should be so treated and not also be removing potentially agricultural needs and values of that
land. And I think that sums up the most important parts in the Land Preservation Committee’s
letters outside of the rest of the comments. Otherwise, while there are always pros and cons to
every issue, I think that we have got a very good working document here and with the final
consideration of the various comments in getting them into the language of the proposed
legislation, we have done it right. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to come up and comment on the issue of
Agricultural Planned Development Districts. Pat?
PAT MOORE: Pat Moore. Thank you. My real concern with reading the legislation is to try to
analyze this law after, let’s say, it has been adopted and advising someone on what can they do
with the property, particularly if it is an agricultural operation that wants to operate in the reserve
area. An issue that it seems to be somewhat addressed in your 180, the condition section, in that
I assume when you say the reserved area for development shall not exceed 20% of the buildable
area for the parcel, that presumes that the entire parcel, once you have placed the covenant over
it, it is now in this Ag PDD that from end to end, you will be operating under whatever the rules
are that are adopted by the Board at the time. So you will be subject to the Town Board’s review
and the Committee’s review for anything that you might want to do on this property, that gives
me a pause and a concern because people can be reasonable today and unreasonable tomorrow.
But with respect to what can you do on the land that is reserved, there is a circumstance or a
situation that is occurring right now with conservation reserve areas, where the Building
Department takes the position that the reserve area, you can only take the reserve area with
respect to what you can, the uses that you can operate. The number of uses. And if you have got
multiple agricultural uses, they are not looking at the entire parcel, they are only looking at the
reserve area. So, in days gone by and I don’t know how this might be implemented but when
people are looking to leave a reserve area for greenhouses, maybe multiple agricultural
operations, what I am seeing today, the interpretation that is occurring is that you need two acres
per use, even though all the uses you are operating there are agricultural uses. So, that is an
interpretation that is occurring right now with reserve areas and I can see that same analysis
applied here so that when you then want to operate the agricultural use that you are trying to
preserve because the reserve area will most likely generate the income that the fields or that the
vines or whatever is being planted, one carries the other and the problem that is occurring right
now and needs correcting is that you should be looking at the entire parcel, not just the reserve
area for purposes of the uses that you are permitted to do, the agricultural uses you are supposed
to do within the reserved area. It is a little technical, probably most of the people here don’t
understand…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What you are actually outlining really are problems with the bulk
schedule. The requirements for two acres to have a winery and two acres to have the house that
is there and if you have already reserved two acres, you have basically essentially spoken for,
you know, that is problematic and we are trying to revisit that…
MS. MOORE: Good, I am glad you are looking at it….
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: ….to reduce those requirements.
MS. MOORE: But that only occurred when you defined the buildable areas, because you
defined buildable as areas that are not with, that aren’t encumbered by an easement but an
easement is not intended to be the ag easement that you have imposed that are running the
reserve area. It is all one parcel and that is the way the process was intended to be and I am
hoping that you will address that when you are looking at this law so that you don’t repeat the
problem, you try to correct it here…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is an issue that needs to be addressed with the regular PDR
program as it currently exists whether this, you know, comes on board. It is an issue either way.
This legislation might put special focus on it but it is a problem with the Town Code that we
need to address.
MS. MOORE: Okay. Well, thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to address the Agricultural Land
Development District proposal? (No response) Hearing none, can I get a motion to close?
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
SECONDER:
William P. Edwards, Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans
Motion To:
Motion to close public hearing
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
SECONDER:
William P. Edwards, Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans
3. PH LL 8/28 7:50 Pm Peddling
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
NOTICE IS HERBY GIVEN THAT,
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: there has been presented
to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, New York, on the 31st day of July,
“A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Peddlers, Solicitors
2007 a Local Law entitled
and Transient Retail Merchants”
and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN
that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
hold a public hearing on the aforesaid Local Law at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
28th day of August, 2007 at 7:50 p.m.
Southold, New York, on the at which time all interested
persons will be given an opportunity to be heard.
“A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Peddlers,
The proposed Local Law entitled,
Solicitors and Transient Retail Merchants”
reads as follows:
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LOCAL LAW NO. 2007
“A Local Law in relation to Amendments to Peddlers, Solicitors and
A Local Law entitled,
Transient Retail Merchants”
.
BE IT ENACTED
by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Purpose -
To update the procedures for registration and regulation of certain peddlers,
solicitors and transient retail businesses in the Town of Southold, and require that they be located
in appropriate areas.
II. Chapter 197 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows:
§ 197-1. Legislative intent.
The purpose of this chapter is to prevent business practices of provide for the registration and
regulation of certain peddlers, solicitors and transient retail businesses from existing in the Town
of Southold, with certain exceptions, as otherwise provided herein, by providing for the
registration and regulation of the conduct of certain peddlers, solicitors and canvassers and
otherwise eliminateing certain practices.
§197-2. Definitions.
As used in this Chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:
PEDDLER -- A person who goes from place to place by traveling on foot or by any type of
conveyance on the streets or from house to house carrying, transporting or conveying goods,
wares, merchandise, foods, farm products or provisions, offering and exposing the same for sale
or making sales and deliveries to purchasers or who solicits orders and, as a separate transaction,
makes deliveries to purchasers. The word "peddler" shall include the words "hawker" and
"huckster."
PERSON -- Includes the singular and the plural and shall also include and mean any individual,
firm, partnership, corporation, voluntary association, incorporated association, club, society or
other organization and any officer, employee or agent thereof.
SOLICITOR and/or CANVASSER -- Any person who goes from place to place or house to
house or stands in any street or public place taking or offering to take orders for goods, wares or
merchandise, except as hereinafter exempted, or for services to be performed in the future or for
making, manufacturing or repairing any article or thing whatsoever for future delivery.
TRANSIENT RETAIL BUSINESS -- A retail or wholesale business conducted in a temporary
structure or tent; from a truck, van or trailer; on a parking lot or vacant parcel of land; on a part
of public right-of-way; or in any other place for a temporary period of time. Lack of a rental or
leasing agreement of three months' or more duration, sealed by monetary consideration, shall be
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presumptive of a temporary situation. The type of merchandise being offered for sale will have
no bearing on the designation.
§197-3. License required.
It shall be unlawful for any peddler or solicitor to sell or dispose of or to offer to sell or dispose
of any goods, wares or merchandise within the Town of Southold or to solicit or act as a solicitor
from door to door within the Town of Southold, or to operate a transient retail business without
first registering with the Town Clerk of the Town of Southold as provided in this chapter and
obtaining the license prescribed.
§197-4. Exemptions.
A. The requirements of this chapter as to the payment of a license fee (but not as to
registration) shall be held not to include the following persons, who are expressly
exempt from its application:
(1) Any person honorably discharged from the United States Army, Navy, Air
Force or Marine Corps or other components of the military forces of the
United States.
(2) Persons engaged in delivering merchandise of any nature whatsoever on
regular, scheduled routes to regular costumers, including specifically but
not limited to persons delivering dairy products, bread and other
merchandise over such routes; and, with respect to persons mentioned in
this subsection, they shall be exempt from all requirements of this chapter
relating to the payment of the license fee or license fees, terms and
conditions.
B. This chapter shall not apply to any of the following: [Amended 3-24-1992 by L.L.
No. 8-1992]
(1) Sales conducted pursuant to statute.
(2) Sales conducted pursuant to the order by any court.
(3) Any person selling personal property at wholesale to dealers in such
articles.
(4) The sale of fruits and vegetables raised on the property where being sold.
(5) Persons soliciting, collecting or operating a sale on behalf of any local
bona fide charitable, religious, patriotic or other organization of worthy
cause deemed to be in the public interest and which organization is
represented locally by a Town resident.
(6) Any person selling personal property at a garage sale held at his residence.
(7) The sale of newspapers.
(8) Any merchant having an established place of business within the Town of
Southold.
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§197-5. Permitted activities.
A. The following activities shall be the only activities which can be licensed pursuant to this
chapter:
(1) The sale of ice cream, milk and other dairy products.
(2) The sale of hot dogs, soda and other items customarily found on hot dog
vending trucks.
(3) The operation of coffee trucks and the sale of goods ordinarily associated
therewith.
B. All other businesses hereinabove defined as transient retail businesses shall be
illegal in the Town of Southold.
§197-6. Application for license.
Any person desiring a license under this chapter shall first register with the Town Clerk of the
Town of Southold and shall file with said Town Clerk an application, in writing, containing the
following information:
A. The name of the applicant.
B. The applicant’s permanent home residence.
C. The name, address and telephone number of the person from whom goods making
up the stock, if any, were or are to be purchased.
D. Three bona fide business references.
E. The place or places of residence of the applicant for the next preceding three
years.
F. Two recent photographs of the applicant, approximately 2 1/2 inches by 2 1/2
inches in size, together with a complete set of fingerprints.
G. A description of the goods, wares or merchandise to be sold and offered for sale
and/or the purpose of his proposed canvassing or solicitation.
H. For transient retail business, the location where the business will be conducted
and a survey showing the proposed location.
H.I. The length of time for which the license is required and registration is to be
effective.
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I.J. Details of any arrests or convictions for misdemeanors and crimes, including the
nature of the offense for which arrested or convicted, the date of conviction and
the place where said conviction was had.
J.K. To said application and as a part thereof, there shall be attached a letter from the
firm or corporation for which the applicant works, authorizing the applicant to act
as its representative.
K.L. A statement by a reputable physician, dated not more than 10 days prior to the
submission of the application, certifying the applicant to be free of contagious
infections or contagious diseases.
L.M. An authorization certification from the New York Sales Tax Bureau.
§197-7. Investigation of applicant. Application referral.
A. Each application shall be referred to the Police Department, which shall, without
delay, institute such an investigation of the applicant's business and moral
character as it deems necessary for the protection of the public good and complete
the same within a reasonable time. No license shall be issued until the application
shall have been approved by the Police Department. The approval or rejection
shall be endorsed on the application by the Chief of Police or officer in charge.
B. Transient Retail Business Applications shall be referred to the Building
Department for review of compliance with zoning and site plan requirements.
§197-8. Issuance of license; records; possession.
A. The license shall be issued on forms drawn in accordance with this chapter. They
shall be consecutively numbered and shall contain spaces for the insertion of the
name, location of the business and amount of fee paid.
B. There shall be kept in the office of the Town Clerk the necessary books for
recording the time the application was received, showing whether it is an
application for a new or renewal license, the name of the license, the date of
approval by the Town Clerk, the amount of fee received therefor and the date
when the license was issued.
C. Every person holding a license under this chapter shall be required to have in his
possession the license at all times while actually engaged in peddling.
§197-9. Fees; expiration of license.
A. The nonrefundable fee for each license application pursuant to this chapter shall
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be $200 per year or $50 per day or fraction thereof.
B. Licenses shall be issued on an annual basis and shall expire on December 31 of
the year of issuance.
§197-10. Restrictions.
A. A hawker, peddler or solicitor shall:
A. 1. Not engage in such business at any time between the hours of 8:00 p.m.
and 9:00 a.m.
B. 2. Not willfully misstate the quantity or quality of any article offered for sale.
C. 3. Not offer for sale any unwholesome, tainted, deleterious or diseased
provisions or merchandise.
D. 4. Keep the vehicles and receptacles used by him in a clean and sanitary
condition and the foodstuffs and edibles offered for sale well covered and
protected from dirt, dust and insects.
E. 5. Not call attention to his goods by blowing a horn, by ringing a bell other
than a house doorbell, by shouting or crying out or by any loud or unusual
noise.
F. 6. Not stand or permit the vehicles used by him to stand in one place in any
public place or street for more than 10 minutes or in front of any premises
for any time if the owner or any lessee of the premises objects.
G. 7. Not create or maintain any booth or stand or place any barrels, boxes,
crates or other obstructions upon any street or public place for the purpose
of selling or exposing for sale any goods, wares or merchandise.
H. 8. Not engage in such business within 500 feet of any school between the
hours of 7:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. on school days.
I. 9. Not sell or peddle prepared foods of any kind, including ice cream,
confectionery, beverages, prepackaged snack foods, hot dogs, hamburgers
and other sandwiches, on any Town beach upon which is located a
concession stand operated under an agreement with the Town or on any
parking area adjacent thereto.
10. Not peddle or solicit in any congested place or area when or where such
activity may impede, endanger or inconvenience the public or add to the
congestion of such place or area. For the purposes of this subsection, the
judgment of any peace officer, code enforcement officer of the Town of
Southold or police officer, exercised in good faith, shall be deemed
conclusive as to the existence of congestions and as to whether the public
is impeded, endangered or inconvenienced.
B. A transient retail business shall be:
1. Located on a property in a zoning district where retail is permitted.
2. Subject to site plan review by the Planning Board for adequate
ingress/egress and parking.
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§197-11. Revocation of license; hearing.
A license may be revoked by the Town Clerk or the Chief of Police by reason of violation or the
terms of the license, the violation of any Town ordinance or state or federal statute or
falsification or fraud in applying for the license. The licensed person may, upon making
application to the Town Clerk, in writing, request a hearing by the Town Board upon the
revocation or suspension of the aforesaid license.
§ 197-12. Signs.
Appropriate signs, as the Town Board of the Town of Southold shall deem necessary, shall be
erected by the Highway Department of the Town of Southold at such places within the Town of
Southold as the Town Board directs, advising of the existence of this chapter.
Any signs associated with sales and business conducted pursuant to this Chapter shall be subject
to Chapter 280, Zoning, Article XIX, Signs, of this Town Code.
§ 197-13. Penalties for offenses.
Any person required by this chapter to procure a license who violates its terms or who violates
any of the provisions of this chapter shall, upon conviction thereof, forfeit and pay not less than
$500 or more than $2,500 for the first offense and no less than $1,000 or more than $5,000 for
the second or any subsequent offense.
III. SEVERABILITY
If any clause, sentence, paragraph, section, or part of this Local Law shall be adjudged by any
court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the judgment shall not affect the validity of this law
as a whole or any part thereof other than the part so decided to be unconstitutional or invalid.
IV. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Local Law shall take effect immediately upon filing with the Secretary of State as provided
by law.
I should just let the people know that the Town Board got some information just today during
our work session that has given us additional insights into this law where we look forward to
your input, we look forward to your comments but I think we are probably going to go back and
change certain parts of it before we act on it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I will clarify that in a minute.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I have comments from the Planning Board to this proposed law,
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it is a short memo from the Planning Board dated August 28. “As requested the Planning
Board has reviewed this proposed local law and finds that the proposed amendments are a vast
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improvement over the current law. The Planning Board recommends approval of this law
subject to the following comments and recommendations. 1. We request that the legislation be
gender neutral by replacing the term ‘him’ with ‘applicant’. 2. We suggest adding the following
sentence under section 197-10B, as reviewed by the Planning Board to ensure the preservation of
the unique visual and historic setting of the Long Island North Shore heritage area and the Town
of Southold designated scenic byways and finally it is recommended that outdoor seating be
prohibited.” I have a memo from Mark Terry, the LWRP coordinator. “We find this proposed
action is consistent with the policies, standards and therefore is consistent with the LWRP law.”
And finally, Suffolk County Department of Planning, “Pursuant to the Suffolk County
Administrative Code, this application is not within the jurisdiction of the Planning Commission.”
Comments from Bill Cremers, a former member of the Town’s Planning Board, his comments
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are different from, additional to those of the Planning Board itself, dated August 24. “The
following are comments to a local law entitled A Local Law in Relation to Amendments to
Peddlers, Solicitors and Transient Retail Merchants. Under definitions the transient retail
business, one can delete the words ‘or wholesale’ I don’t believe anyone will be selling
wholesale hotdogs. Under a lack of rental or leasing, change to a fixed time frame. And Section
197-10, restrictions, A transient retail business shall be, 1., located on a property in a zoning
district where retail is permitted. Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary defines retail as 1. The sale
of commodities or goods in small quantities to ultimate consumers, as opposed to wholesale,
which is an economic good or a product of agriculture, mining or sometimes manufacture as
distinguished from services. Retail is permitted in all districts except HD, AHD and RO. Other
districts already state ‘the retail sale of etc. etc or any permitted use’ and he describes the AC, R-
80, R-40, RR and LB as allowing retail sales. I suggest the zoning districts for transient retail
business will be permitted actually be listed, each one of those districts should simply be listed.
Restrictions, subject to site plan review by the Planning Board for adequate ingress, egress and
parking. On that subject, since some business zones are adjacent to residential zones, the review
should include a review for buffers. Parking requirements for trailer and tables need to be added.
Is a public hearing required? Does the Architectural Review Committee need to be involved?” I
have documentation that this has appeared on the Town Clerk’s bulletin board outside and it has
appeared as a legal in the local newspaper.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, would anybody like to come up and address the Town Board,
oh, let me just clarify one thing before. There are, several of the problems with the legislation
would be considered substantial changes so we would have to go to re-draft it and go to a new
public hearing on this to make those types of changes. It is very problematic to have a law that
says you have to restrict it to areas where only retailing is allowed and then fundamentally allow
retailing in just about every zone you offer. So it is problematic, we are going to have to make
some changes. We went ahead with the public hearing because we do want to hear what people
have to say regarding this legislation if we are going to undertake redrafting it. We want to
include your comments and concerns in any new product. So would anybody like to come up
and address the Town Board on this issue? Also, we do have a lot of people here, I do need
everybody to go to the mic, state your name fully and your hamlet for the record.
DENIS SALZMANN: My name is Denis Salzmann and I live in Southold. I am the owner of
Dennis’ hotdog truck and which this meeting or part of this meeting is being conducted. I
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opened my truck for business in May of 2007 after securing all the required paperwork from the
Town, County and New York State. I also have insurance on both my truck and the business.
On opening day at the location of Route 48 just west of Ackerly Pond Road, I wasn’t opened for
more than two hours and the Code Enforcement Officer stopped by to question me regarding my
permits and permission to be at this location. I showed him all my permits, informed him that I
had the permission of the landowner to be there and he thanked me and said everything appeared
to be in order. About a month after Denis’ Dog House opened for business, a second hotdog
truck, East Coast Dogs opened for business on the corner of Horton Road and 48. I was
surprised that the Town would again allow another hotdog truck to operate at this site so close to
an established restaurant. While planning to open my own business and looking for a site, I
chose not to pursue a specific location because it was too close to an established restaurant.
Instead I selected a site a mile west of Horton’s Road because I believed it was far enough away
from other businesses and would have little impact on residents and other eating establishments.
A week or two after the second hotdog truck opened for business, Scott Russell stopped by at my
truck and informed me I was a retail business operating on agricultural property and there was a
possibility that I would have to move. Mr. Russell informed me that the Town would work with
me to correct the situation because the Town realized they had made a mistake. In the meantime,
East Coast Dogs was placing several large signs at their location, along the roadside both east
and west of Horton’s Road on other persons property. So after that, I had a second visit from
Mr. Forrester, the Code Enforcement Officer. He informed me that I only one sign was
permitted on my leased property. None of my two signs were too large, nor anyplace on anyone
else’s property but he had to stop by and officially advise me because he had to speak to the
other person also. Again, Mr. Russell stopped by that he had to speak to the operator of the
second hotdog truck about the size of their signs and their placement, so he was also speaking to
me at the same time. He didn’t say that there was anything wrong with my one sign. The next
thing I know, lightening strikes. A reporter from the Suffolk Times stops at Denis’ Dog House
and asked me about an upcoming meeting at Town Hall on the hotdog wars. I didn’t know
anything about the meeting and certainly didn’t care for the term war and therefore chose not to
comment to the newspaper at that time. The Suffolk Times then ran a full page story about the
two hotdog trucks and their locations and signage. Thankfully the story also clearly stated that
Mr. Russell had informed them that I had done everything by the book but yet there was a
question about the zoning. As written, the article made it sound as if the second hotdog truck
had opened for business before I had and that we were having a sign war, just to set the record
straight, let me repeat: Denis’ Dog House opened for business first and I did not engage in a sign
or a hotdog war. That is not my style. The article closed with a quote from Mr. Russell, ‘If we
don’t do something, we are going to have a hotdog truck in every field.’ Yes, please do
something but not something that will put me out of business. Why do you have to go to that
extreme? For example, you could limit the number of permits issued. Require that a truck be
owned and operated by a resident of the Town or hamlet in which it is going to be located.
Please, use your heads in this matter. Because I was upset with the seeming harassment about
the operation at my site, I did hire an attorney to represent me with the Town if needed. There
was some discussion about Denis’ Dog House moving to Town beach, however, the Town never
came to any conclusion on the subject or worked with me on that or any other alternative site. A
second lightening bolt strikes. The next thing I know, my attorney called me and advised me
that the Town Board established a legal notice, a proposed change to code that the hotdog trucks
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operate under and that there was a meeting tonight. It doesn’t appear to me that the Town
officials interested at all in working with me to correct the situation they allow. It appears that
someone is only interested in putting me out of business. Before the Board makes a decision, I
would like them to consider that I did, in fact, follow all the Town rules regarding this business
and continue to do so since day one. I am confused with the fact that my business gets such
immediate attention and scrutiny from the Town officials and yet anyone can check out for
instance, the signs at the farmstands, the wineries. How many signs do they have? How large
are they? I happen to have some pictures, probably that is for later on, of the signs around town
that offend me. Is someone going to do something about that? As you can see from these
pictures, there are farmstands selling items not from their own farms or the five eastern
townships. Maybe even from out of state. Are they under scrutiny for their retail sales on
agricultural land? And what about the mini-amusement park atmosphere? Are they cooking on
premise? Perhaps selling too many manufactured items? Imported cheeses. A cigar store on a
vineyard property. Are they catering halls or are they wineries? What about the traffic they
cause? You have got the picture. How many used car lots do we have in this Town? I
constantly see cars almost, and almost anything else being sold, particularly on Route 48 and
Tuckers. I thought that Mullen and Lucas were the only new and used car lots in town. There
was one marina that constantly has a boat for sale at Wickham and 48. I don’t know whether
that is an advertisement for the marina or they are operating a retail business on the side of the
road. Who knows? No one from code enforcement appears to be working on the weekends, so
people can do whatever they want. Be it construction, sales, signs or whatever. Probably
everyone has seen the article published in yesterday’s Newsday. One of the things that struck
me in the article was that it says that the Town has been working on revising the farmstand code
for three years. Is that true? And the farmers police themselves. That is interesting. You have
been working on the farmstand revision for at least three years, you have been working at the
animal shelter for over 10 years, you have been working at the new Town Hall even longer than
the animal shelter. But you can revise the Town Code for the operation of a hotdog truck quick
enough, can’t you? You can crush a simple working man’s business at the speed of lightening. I
suggest that you are practicing selective code enforcement and my rights are being trampled on.
The issue of safety has also come up regarding the location of Denis’ Hot Dogs. Let’s review
everyone’s business location and the accidents that have happened in front of their locations.
Denis’ Hot Dog truck has not caused any traffic jams or congestion at the site. No one has been
killed in front of my business, no pedestrians crossing to the beach or a restaurant have been hit
at my location as has happened at other business sites. I don’t sell alcoholic beverages to
anyone, they can drive their motorcycle or cigarette boats any faster or up on jetties as has
happened in the past. I wanted to open up a hotdog truck to serve the people of Southold and its
visitors. I wanted to enable people from all walks of life to purchase the all American hotdog,
prepared the old fashioned way, for a reasonable price. I wanted families to enjoy a traditional
hotdog, lunch without breaking their pocketbooks. Hotdog trucks are the American tradition.
They traditionally operate from a set location on the side of the road. Some towns have been
overrun with too many trucks and some seedy looking ones. I admit this and I wouldn’t want to
see it happen anywheres on the North Fork. I was as surprised as anyone that the Town would
allow two hotdog trucks to operate within a mile of each other. Yes, something has to be done
but I don’t think Denis’ Hot Dogs should be put out of business to get control of the situation. I
have gone out of my way to keep it clean, neat, safe, pleasant and tasteful operation, trying not to
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offend anyone. And make no mistake, putting me out of business is exactly what this code is
aiming at. The proposed code would require a hotdog truck to operate only at sites that have
been zoned retail business. I pulled up the zoning map of the Town to see where I can operate
and they don’t even have the designation called retail business. The Town doesn’t even propose
a hotdog truck be permitted to operate on commercial business or industrial property. Only
retail. More over, if we could find a landlord owning a retail business or zoned business willing
to rent the space to my hotdog truck, they would have to have a survey and a site plan review by
the Building Department and we all know how long that would take. And there is no doubt a
cost involved for all in this. What prospective landlord would want to go through that? Since
Denis’ Hot Dogs has opened, thousands of hotdogs have been sold. There was a market out
there and we are serving a need. Many people tell me every day how happy they are that they
can stop and enjoy a decent, inexpensive meal. One customer jubilantly explained that Denis’
Hot Dogs is the best thing that happened in Southold. I don’t know about that part but…Denis’
Dog House provides a friendly atmosphere and we really enjoy our customers. I propose that the
Town either grandfather me in as a non-conforming business as they did when they changed the
code for farmstands or completely reimburse me for the loss of income, the investment made
that is relying on the Town code. Everyone has admitted and agreed that I have done nothing
wrong. I made a significant investment to operate this business in the Town of Southold and
follow the rules. Southold is where I live, the Town my family and I have been homeowners in
for over 60 years. I volunteer my time at the Southold Fire Department, serving as a first
lieutenant in the fire police. I also serve as a volunteer on the Town Advisory Committee. My
motto has been to live and let live. I have never complained to the Town about anything,
preferring to allow people to do what they have to do to make a living. I hate that these
circumstances have put me in the position of being the type of person I don’t want to be,
complaining about other people just to make my point. And speaking in the first person is
something else I don’t like to do. I am a resident who is committed to serving his community. I
chose to live here, plan to die here, peacefully. Instead, the Town Board is killing me. In spite
of that, I will close with one of my favorite expressions and one that I try to live by. Peace be
with you and let it begin with me; aided by you of course. Thank you. And thank everyone up
here.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I really thought you guys were here for the Ag PDD thing. Denis,
let me just bring some clarity to some things. First I did stop by to see you at the hotdog truck
not because, I didn’t say that the Town made a mistake, I said it was clear that you thought you
were doing everything right based on the law but we have a bad law. That is a lack of clarity. I
actually met with your attorney and I happen to agree with her legal opinion on the lack of
standing there. also, the quote in the Suffolk Times, ‘If we don’t do something we will have
them in every field’ I told you a long time ago, that actually wasn’t my quote, it was actually
another councilman’s quote that had been attributed to me in the paper. But he raises a point,
how many, what do you, if you don’t bring at least some governance of some type, I am not
saying this law is the way to go but if you don’t bring some governance of some type, how do
you provide a level playing field for the businesses out here that actually pay property taxes to
have a commercial enterprise and to get into that retail, so we need to bring some leveling affect
to all of this. I also told you I think you would deserve a, I am not a legal advisor by any stretch
but I also thought that because you thought you were doing everything right, you followed every
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rule, you should be able to qualify for some sort of pre-existing, non-conforming standing if
there is such a thing with this legislation. You were there before any new law comes to be. With
that being said, would anybody else like to come up and address the Town Board?
JOAN FLECK: Joan Fleck, Bay Avenue in East Marion. A few weeks ago, I was very aware of
ice cream trucks going around because of the jingle that they make. I have been living here for
14 years and I never heard that before.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Ice cream trucks are permitted. Actually, under the current law, the
peddler’s law; they are not supposed to be ringing bells or anything of that nature. One was
doing, I actually grew up here with the ice cream trucks and they never used them but I guess
some are now. They are not supposed to but they are certainly permitted to drive through the
communities to sell ice cream.
MS. FLECK: How do you stop them from the music?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What you need to do is if you can’t successfully discuss the issue
with them, just call us and we will send someone out to talk to the vendor. About not ringing the
bell.
MS. FLECK: Okay. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I have to, before there is another comment. I do have to
compliment the Supervisor, he has been, I think he has handled this pretty well throughout the
whole thing because it is kind of an odd issue. And these things come up actually all the time in
Town, where something new comes up and the code is silent on it or it is not addressed properly
or it is outdated or antiquated and it takes time to react and you want to get everybody’s opinion
on what is best for the Town, not just today but you know, five years, ten years from now. so, I
think he has handled it pretty well overall and we are making progress. That is why we have
public hearings, to get input on these things.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to comment?
ED COAKLEY: My name is Ed Coakley and I am a friend of Denis and I just would like the
Board to think again about the financial impact not only on Denis but on the other person who
operates the other hotdog stand. That they have followed the proper Town procedures. I don’t
like the fact that the other person has a sign the square footage of which is larger than Lucas Ford
and Eric’s combined, I don’t think that is right but again, there are other options. Grandfather
both vendors for a period of years, grandfather their locations, grandfather the right to do
business for a period of years during which the business stays in their immediate of family or
family. At the end of that period, if they decide to sell the business then their rights under the
grandfather provision expire. There has to be a way to treat both of these people equitably as I
believe they both have the right to do business in the Town of Southold, thinking that their
efforts were in line with the current provisions and ordinances in Southold.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I agree. You made a good faith to follow the rules and the rules
happen to change on you, that is something the Town Board should be cognizant of, I agree with
that. On the other issue, the sign. I think that sign story got a little bit out of hand. We just
really had some issues with the signs governing, with one vendor. It wasn’t a sign wars, I never
saw you with more than two, tops. So I think that was just sort of a side issue that sort of got a
little bit more focus than it needed to.
BRIAN MAHONY: Brian Mahony, resident of Southold. A crazy thing like hotdogs, I mean
how this got all this attention. And the young lady brought up about the ice cream trucks, there
are two of them that are going from Southold, one after the other with the music, whatever they
play. But yeah, if they want to make money, that is fine. I don’t have a problem with that, I
really don’t. and I am not picking on anybody in the room here but go back to the farmstand
issue. We have farmstands selling Christmas trees that aren’t even grown out here, that come
from Canada. We have farmstands baking pies that come from Mrs. Smiths. And all of a
sudden, we have got a couple of guys selling hotdogs and everybody in this Town, I just can’t
believe this Town Board and these code enforcement people ain’t got nothing better to do. I just
can’t believe that it has come to this, that you even allowed this circus to start like this. And
meanwhile, you go to farmstands and I am not picking on you, Mr. Wickham but I see, not your
farmstand but other farmstands (inaudible) some of these farmstands that is not made out here
that has no business being in the farmstand. And now where do you draw the line of they are
selling roasted corn, some of them are selling hotdogs, some of them are selling other things.
Where are you going to draw this line? You are not going to make everyone happy. And I think,
you know, like Denis said, he was there, he did everything right. and I am behind him, I think
the man has got a legitimate point. But then you have got to go back and change the rules for
everybody else because it is, you know, maybe Mr. Wickham has been there 100, 200 years or
whatever. That is beside the point. You are not going to make the rules and change them as we
go along and that is what you guys can do all the time with a lot of other issues in this Town and
that is why I am here speaking up tonight because this is not, I mean it is a hotdog issue tonight
but what is going to be the next issue? And you guys have got to start playing a little bit more
consistent on your rules and not make them as you go along because that is what happens in this
Town all the time and I disagree with some of the decisions you guys make and how it is done
and how the process is followed and I think you guys need to, you know, really look at the issue
because if you get Denis then we start to look at farmstands, produce stands, ice cream trucks.
Where is it going to end? That is all I have to say. Thanks.
JL CONWAY: JL Conway, I live in Southold. I agree with grandfathering this in. I don’t want
to see this deteriorate to the name game and blaming everyone. And I don’t think we want to see
vendors on every street, so whatever you do, just grandfather these people in but restrict it
somewhat in the future. Thank you.
BOB BOERGESSON: Bob Boergesson, Southold. For those of you who don’t me, I have lived
in Town my whole life. Spent about eight or nine years on the road doing clinical evaluations on
patients on Long Island and probably have hit 75% of all the hotdog trucks on Long Island at
some point. The two that we have here in Southold are pretty classy hotdog trucks compared to
some of them I have stopped at. I think one of the things we have heard, now, do I understand
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that this hearing now will be extended to another hearing before any decision is made?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is clear we would have to re-draft legislation. It is significant
enough of a change that we would probably re-require a new hearing. The hope is tonight is to
incorporate a lot of this into a discussion.
MR. BOERGESSON: Having spent 21 years on the school board, I think you are taking the
right stand on that. There is no doubt about that. And the other thing is, if you are going to
pursue this, the grandfather thing is probably not a bad idea but maybe you should tweak the
amendment a little tighter though on the Town’s ability to issue the permits per location. I think
Denis had a good point, that you know, he opened where he thought was okay.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mmmhmm.
MR. BOERGESSON: The other one opened less than a mile away. Probably not a good thing
for the Town to have allowed to happen. Maybe if you put a five mile circle or something you
know, in where you are going to issue permits to. I am not sure you are allowed to do that but
you know, that sort of tweaking before you get to the next public hearing so we are all pretty
happy with the outcome.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: To be frank, it is kind of a tough call because I think why you got so
much attention is because it was a hotdog truck in the middle of a farm field. Yet when you look
at a hotdog truck right next to an existing business that paid a lot of money to do a site plan, is
that really better for you? to be right next door and going head to head with, it is a tough call, I
am not sure we didn’t over react a little bit to the presence of two hotdog trucks. But again, it is
not the two it is the 20 and that is where you want to be cognizant of. But I think that there is no
real reason to not be a little bit, to step back a little bit from this and be a lot more thoughtful in
the types of legislation that we want to create.
MR. BOERGESSON: Many years ago when I was frequenting hotdog trucks much more often,
I thought it might be a good thing to do and when I looked into Suffolk County regulation on it
and I don’t know if it is any longer in existence but it said that you could not vend within 500
feet of a licensed restaurant, licensed by Suffolk County. I don’t know whether that is still in
effect now, I presume not because I would think code enforcement would be on that like, you
know, a dog on a rabbit. But, anyway, thank you for listening to me.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, I appreciate it, Mr. Boergesson, very much. And Denis, I tried
keeping the communication with you open because I know that you went through the whole
process as fair and square as you could. And just as a side note, I went to him a couple of weeks
ago and I pulled up in my car and I walked to the window and he said, ‘is this good news or bad
news’ and I said ‘I need four hotdogs and two bags of potato chips.’ He said, ‘that is good
news.’ So, we bat about .500. Would anybody else like to comment on this issue.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Did you pay for them?
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, I did. Yes, I did. No discount there.
MR. SALZMANN: He left no tip.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right. I don’t tip owners. I don’t tip my brother, either.
Would anybody else?
BILL WITZKE: Good evening, I am Bill Witzke from Southold. I am a business owner in this
Town also and we all know without rules, it is mayhem. And I feel kind of unfortunate for this
whole situation for Denis, he is a very good friend of mine and I don’t envy you of being in this
position how to do this juggling act right now. but if somebody came to me after I did all the
rules and regulations and followed everything like I was supposed to do and says hey by the way,
we are not going to let you do it anymore, I would be rather upset, to say the least. And I can
certainly empathize with Denis being in that position. So I can only implore you to please,
before we make any other decisions on this to take into account a man’s livelihood here. I
realize we have a beautiful town, you have a very big responsibility to keep it in that condition
and we don’t want, as anyone said, these establishments on every corner. But as you have said,
he has already been allowed to establish a business, so take that into account. Thank you for
your time.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, Bill.
ANN MEDFORD: Ann Medford, Southold. I just want to follow up on what Bill just said. I
don’t think that the issue or the fact that this is a hotdog stand is really the issue at hand. I don’t
think that the issue and the fact that he is a wonderful human being and a great member of the
community is the issue. I think you have an opportunity as a Board when you go back and
review this thing to really make a statement to us, the general public, those who have to go for
permits for our homes, those who have to go for permits for future businesses, to come back and
say, there was a situation, we have Denis as an example of an honest man who is doing the right
thing, who has stood by it. Had an opportunity to blast whoever he wanted to in that article and
chose not to do it and to use him as a rising example of someone who tries the right way and turn
it back to the Town and say we respect that and we reward that, I think that is your opportunity.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Very good point. Very good point.
CHIP PENNEY: My name is Chip Penney, I live in Greenport. I am a friend of Denis’ and I
think he makes a valid point when you have to be very careful, the language of this law that you
are going to state, you know, how he can present his signs and the type of products he can sell
and whether or not he is selling corn he is selling hotdogs, if you are going to go that strict and
determine how he is going to conduct his business, you really should look at considering
farmstands in this type of law because you know, anytime you travel Route 48 during the season,
you know, you can see farmstands operating on either side of the road and it is a tremendous
safety issue. When you talk about safety and somebody, you know, you are going to say to
Denis somebody might get hit out in front of your hotdog stand, there is many times I have been
through Mattituck on Route 48 and have had to stop for people crossing the road, parking on
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both sides of the road. You know, you need to expand the language and everybody loves
farmers, I love farmers, I love living in Southold but also you know, there should be no
difference between a farmer and a business owner. And I just think that should be revisited
before this language is written. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thanks, Chip. Would anybody else like to come up and address the
Town Board? (No response) Can I get a motion to close?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: No, we can’t close it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, we can close it…
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I think we should close it because we are going to revise it and
bring it back and re-open a whole new hearing. I don’t think we should continue this one.
ASSISTANT TOWN ATTORNEY CORCORAN: Anything you do is going to require a re-
notice and a re-hearing at this stage. Close it, don’t act on it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are going to close this hearing. I will get a vote from the Board
and you know, I am going to strongly suggest that we consider tabling this legislation, look
around and what we can come up with that is fair and considers everything that was said. We
don’t want this thing to exacerbate throughout the entire community but we want to be respectful
of people that do follow the rules, even if the rules aren’t good and that was an excellent point.
Can I get a motion to close?
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
William P. Edwards, Councilman
SECONDER:
Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans
Motion To:
Motion to close public hearing
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I think we ought to say something about the process of going
forward. And I would think that the Board should hold some meetings, perhaps, through one of
our statutory committees and if there is sort of a lesson behind this, to me at least, is that you
don't just draft legislation in a vacuum. You really need the people who are affected to
participate in one way or another. I don't think we heard enough of that input as this legislation
went forward, so I hope we can correct that in the coming weeks.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: That is what hearings are for.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right. It is closed. I will get a hold of you. What we will do
is in the near future, schedule something for the Town Board to work out a Code Committee
meeting and have you come and have you give us some input.
MR. SALZMANN: Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Daniel C. Ross, Councilman
SECONDER:
William P. Edwards, Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans
Motion To:
Motion to reopen regular meeting
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Daniel C. Ross, Councilman
SECONDER:
Thomas H. Wickham, Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans
VII. Closing Statements
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: With that being said, that closes our regular business. Would
anybody like to come up and address the Town Board? Mr. Carlin?
Frank Carlin, Laurel
FRANK CARLIN: Good evening everyone.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Good evening.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Good evening.
MR. CARLIN: I lived in this town for 53 years. I remember back when the zoning code had
one page to it. 1959. Now it has over maybe 250, I don’t know, I lost count. But it took all this
time to try to figure out how to run a hotdog stand. That should have been done a long time ago.
One of my subjects tonight and I have a few of them, I can’t go through all of them, the meeting
was too long and the raccoons are waiting for me to get home, they want to be fed. This
television operation we have here, Scott, is pathetic. I mentioned to you at the last Board
meeting. You still have that hesitation of one to two seconds and it is annoying when you watch
it. And it has been going like that since you put it on the Internet. That is your problem right
there. I know electronics. I hold the highest FCC license you can have. Your problem is that
Internet. Since put on Internet, you are having problems. Everytime I come here, it takes Betty,
it takes this gentleman to try to get this thing figured out. If you are having problems with it, you
are paying to have this, get the vendor to come here with somebody that has the technical
knowledge to straighten this out or remove it from the Internet. We don’t need this thing on the
Internet. Video and audio is enough.
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: Mr. Carlin, it works fine at my house.
MR. CARLIN: Well, it don’t work at my house. And my television is right.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know, we actually…
MR. CARLIN: Other people are the same way.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We went….
MR. CARLIN: Do you know what I am talking about? Hesitation.
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: No, I don’t.
MR. CARLIN: Then what are you saying it works fine for?
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: I don’t see the hesitation…
MR. CARLIN: It is a hesitation, it goes bppt, bppt and also effects the sound. It blinks. It
blinks.
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: No, it doesn’t. At least, I can only say what it does at my house
and it doesn’t do any of those.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You know, we subscribe to this as a pilot initiative. Actually, Albert
and myself were discussing the issue this morning. I think the Town Board needs to put it back
on the table now that it has been operational for a few months and get a sense whether there is
any public interest in continuing forward or not.
MR. CARLIN: Get rid of it. Get rid of it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is a discussion we are going to have to have as a Town Board.
MR. CARLIN: Get rid of it. In second place, not everybody has a computer.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Everybody has access to one through their local library, however.
For Internet service.
MR. CARLIN: Not everybody has to go for it, this is fine. We had this for years, not for years
but maybe 15, 20 years. And this is fine. You have got your audio, your video, you are on three
times a day. You don’t need this. You are having problems with it, you can’t control it, it has
been going that way for and not alone this flickering on. I remember two years ago, when it
would be snowy, it would be a lot of buzzing there or there would be sound. I was cut off a
couple of times. Mrs. Egan was cut off a couple of times. When Horton was here and they
couldn’t figure out, how come Frank Carlin was speaking, I was cut off? I would go to
Cablevision, they would blame the Town and the Town would blame Cablevision. So this has
been going on now for a long time, Scott.
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COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: It is probably Cablevision. We will say it is Cablevision.
MR. CARLIN: There you go. Okay.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: I guess one question, Mr. Carlin, is if there is anyone out there that is
watching on the Internet, we would like to hear from them because it was adopted as a pilot
program and we are going to revisit it and if there is somebody…
MR. CARLIN: I don’t know if this is happening on the Internet or not. It is happening on
regular TV.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: But if anyone is using, if anyone is viewing these meetings on the
Internet, let us know because if you don’t let us know, we are going to assume no one is looking
at it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: If we made a mistake subscribing to it, it was only in the best
intentions. I am trying to bring as much information to the public and we wanted to revisit it to
see if there was public interest.
MR. CARLIN: How much does this cost?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don’t want to guess, it is about $300 a month, Betty?
MR. CARLIN: More, more?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: More than what?
MR. CARLIN: How much is it normally cost without the Internet?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, the taping doesn’t cost us. We actually get reimbursed through a
Cablevision franchise agreement that I had read when I first became Supervisor. I submitted all
the past invoices to Cablevision and they reimbursed me every penny for the taping.
MR. CARLIN: But how much is the Internet costing?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: It is about $300 a month for this link.
MR. CARLIN: At least if you are paying for it, it should be right. There should be technicians
around someplace that can take of that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We hear what you are saying.
MR. CARLIN: Okay. Helicopters. We could go on a Sunday night, outside my patio, from
6:00 till 8:00, I counted about 25 of them going over Mattituck. Over my area. They start around
Thursday, back and forth through the weekend, carrying these business people or whatever to
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Hampton Bays or East Hampton, West Hampton, South Hampton and all of that. Why can’t
they route those, being that the FCC don’t control them, why can’t they route those helicopters
two different ways? Route them to go east of Plum Island and go along the Sound or go around
Montauk and go around the ocean. Why do they have to cut across Mattituck for? You ever
think about that?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Oh, I did. And I did a lot of research, I actually contacted the other
jurisdictions. East Hampton airport, which is municipally owned, had made a deal with trade
organizations, one in particular out of Yardley, Pennsylvania which sort of governs as a
gentleman’s agreement, the flight operations of these helicopter charters and they have quite
literally said, ‘you know what? Let’s cut this helicopter issue by going over Jessups and across
the North Fork to keep Southampton happy’. I am meeting with the supervisor’s of both towns
on Thursday to discuss and press this issue. I have been ringing this bell at the federal level, the
FAA won’t get involved unfortunately. Dan Ross is actually looking at, we had discussed the
possibility for a legal option if we need to go that route. But there is no question that the south
fork is making us live with the conspicuous consumption of their residents. No question about it.
MR. CARLIN: Well, according to your last meeting, it is politics. And this Town should be
doing something about it. Have you got a letter off to Hillary Clinton? Have you got a letter off
to Schumer? Have you got a letter off to Bishop?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes. Yes.
MR. CARLIN: You have got them all off?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes. And to the state reps as well.
MR. CARLIN: Okay. So you are telling me that Southampton…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: East Hampton. It is the airport owned and operated by East
Hampton.
MR. CARLIN: Control it and are letting them come over our area. I don’t think we should let
them do that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I agree with you.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: We are working on it, Mr. Carlin.
MR. CARLIN: You had better work on it now.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am working on it now.
MR. CARLIN: Not 20 years down the line.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am doing it everyday. I get telephone calls for helicopter traffic
every single day. It is getting very incessant and ridiculous.
MR. CARLIN: I get a lot of people coming to me when I go downtown complaining about it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah. They are complaining to me, too.
MR. CARLIN: And I tell you, I hate to see this happen. I hope it don’t happen. You need one
to go in someplace here and then everybody is going to wake up. It is going to be too late. You
have got to strike when the iron is hot, gentlemen. You know the….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I have got a hot iron, I don’t know who to strike it with. My problem
is I have got a hot iron, I don’t know who to strike it with. The FAA has been absolutely no help.
MR. CARLIN: Look around and find something.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are trying.
MR. CARLIN: But they, East Hampton can’t control what we want over here, either. Would
they like it if we put our helicopters or something over there?
COUNCILMAN EDWARDS: We don’t have….
MR. CARLIN: They didn’t want the ferry boat over there, they didn’t get that either.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right. We are getting stuck with their air traffic now.
MR. CARLIN: Yeah. Big deal. Big deal. Camp Malloy. Made a mistake last week, they are
not pheasants in that house, they are quail. They are already this size now. did you know they
were in there now? You said you didn’t know they were in there?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The quail. Yeah, I knew they were quail though. Who said
pheasant?
MR. CARLIN: That was my mistake. But they are a good size. The little ones. But that is a
house, right?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is what is left of the house.
MR. CARLIN: So I guess it is alright to raise quail in the house?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We actually anticipate demolishing that house.
MR. CARLIN: Changing the zoning there. What?
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We anticipate demolishing that house when we get state funds to do
that.
MR. CARLIN: Oh, okay.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: When the quail grow up.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, and go off to school.
MR. CARLIN: Oh, animal shelter? Can’t miss that. Stopped over there a week ago, nothing
was done but you leveled the land down. But then I stopped down there tonight and you got all
the concrete poured already. Very good. Nineteen years. Boy, that made tears come to my
eyes. Nineteen years before we could do that. See, I have been on here a long time. I stood
before six supervisors. So I know what is going on in this town.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They should have threatened to sell hotdogs 20 years ago. We
would have gotten it done.
MR. CARLIN: I could tell you a story about….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I know. Look, it is done, it is part of the history of Southold now. It
is a new facility that….
MR. CARLIN: I see you took care of that drain problem, I think it is pretty well under control
now.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We still have more work to do. We still have more work to do but
we did some.
MR. CARLIN: I don’t think you got much more work to do. Scott, there is nothing there to do.
It is all filled up, I think it is going to work fine.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I hope so.
MR. CARLIN: I got one big issue here, I wasn’t going to do it tonight but it must be done.
What you said? Did somebody say something? What did you say?
UNIDENTIFIED: Please don’t take a lot of extra time.
MR. CARLIN: Tough. I stood here for three hours listening to everybody else. You know, I
remember you (inaudible) my McDonald’s meeting when I was fighting it for five years. I
remember you. Don’t start with me. I got some pictures here I took Tuesday, Wednesday I
think it was. (Inaudible) Two years ago, Krieger drove a well at the information center across
from my house in Laurel. They went down 35 feet. They had a lot of problem with the water
and rust and the water being hard, which I have also. They had to come back a year ago and
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drive down 135 feet with a casing. Last week, had to go back, pull the well out and use 120
pounds of air pressure to blow that well out. And what came out of that well is you see in the
picture, all that rust. That the kind of water we have there. and I got there when the rust was out
of but was on the ground. For an hour the guy was pumping that, you could see that, going up 20
feet in the air. That is the kind of water we have there. what I am getting out is Suffolk County
Water Authority can put the water in, public water in Delmar Drive, Peconic Bay Boulevard,
Bray Avenue and the golf course, which is right behind me. But us poor tax payers can’t get
anything from Bray Avenue to the Laurel post office. We don’t even have a fire hydrant. Why?
Because they give you that story, well, there is not enough houses. Malarkey. When you put
water in the Town, everybody should be able to have water. Don’t use that excuse and I will tell
Mr. LoGrande or anybody else. And we need water bad there. I have a rust filter on mine and a
salt filter. To get soft water. But my argument is, if they can do all of that, why can’t we have
it? We are taxpayers. We don’t have 25 houses but we have houses. Riverhead has hydrants all
the way from Riverhead to the Laurel post office. We don’t even have fire hydrants. And I
think an insurance company, if you live a certain distance from a fire hydrant, you get a little
reduction on your insurance, too. Why? And I offered a year ago, I offered at the Town Board
meeting, I offered to the Water Authority, I would give them permission to run the main on my
property, from the golf course, under the track and go west because going under that bridge
could be a problem. I offered, volunteered to use my property to run their line but nothing ever
happened. I don’t think it is fair.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: We really have very little authority over…
MR. CARLIN: No, I know you don’t have, I know that but you shouldn’t have let them come in
here to start with if they couldn’t give everybody a decent amount of water.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: We shouldn’t have let them come in to start with if we had no
control over what they did.
MR. CARLIN: Yeah, but you shouldn’t have let them come in to start with.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I agree.
MR. CARLIN: Greenport let them come in, what was it, $3,000,000. and they took it over? One
more thing. Evacuation plans. Do you have really one plan in case we have a disaster here?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don’t have just one plan, we several different components
anticipating different disasters. From Mill Stone to bird flu, to hurricane preparedness. We have
a comprehensive master plan. That includes a lot of that we have contracts with bussing
companies and the need to move large numbers. We have the sort of sub-regional plans to move
people say out of Greenport, which is a low lying area, over to Peconic Landing. We have even
a transportation component that includes Cross Sound ferry as a subscriber, should we need their
services.
MR. CARLIN: What I mean is, did you ever issue to each hamlet area so people who live there,
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actually the information where they can go in writing? Where they belong to? Say I might have
to go to Mattituck area high school….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
MR. CARLIN: Or not to depend on going around with a PA system if you can’t get there or
something?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, we sent out a town wide mailer last year right around
hurricane season. We are going to send out a reminder this year. The problem is, it is very
costly to send out mailers all the time. Last year, Senator Ken LaValle was gracious enough to
find me $10,000 to offset my cost. But we would like to send another mailer soon. But we send
out a four or eight page information packet that included everything. We have also hosted
seminars and we put it on the website, we put it on channel 22, we have had training. A lot of
interest and a lot of activity in emergency preparedness.
MR. CARLIN: Okay. I will continue on the next time. You can keep all the pictures.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, Mr. Carlin.
John Murphy
JOHN MURPHY: Good evening, John Murphy, Cutchogue. I am currently employed at the
Southold Town Nutrition Center. I would like to address an issue that came up at the last Board
meeting. Ms. Egan got up and spoke on, I believe it was 10 points. The Board commented on
everyone except the one where she brought up the change at the Nutrition Center. The change at
the Nutrition Center is me. I resigned. The reason I resigned, my wife and I decided a long time
ago to relocate to South Carolina. This, Ms. Egan, stood up and just said, ‘oh, another change at
the Nutrition Center, got to be bad management.’ Now, I noticed the Town Board commented
on every opinion that she had except this. I think this is unconscionable. What she said
besmirched the reputation of the supervision and the people I work with. Bad management could
not be further from the truth. I love that job. My wife is sitting right behind me over here, we
had a big argument after I started this, I said, ‘you know, can we put off our move to South
Carolina, I like working there so much.’ If it was bad management, I don’t think I would do that.
I think that Ms. Egan in general and the Southold Town Board in particular owe Karen
McLaughlin and all the staff and personnel at the Southold Town Nutrition Center an apology.
Thank you, that is all I have to say.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: We are sorry, sir.
MR. MURPHY: Please, don’t apologize to me.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: We assume that everybody in Southold knows that Karen does an A-1
job and that facility is run top notch but if they don’t, they should.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: We appreciate your comments.
MR. MURPHY: Why didn’t you comment on that when she said bad management and everyone
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just let it slide by when you commented on every other…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mr. Murphy, I will tell you exactly why I did and if I was wrong, I
will certainly go to Karen and apologize directly tomorrow. My problem was, those comments
come pretty regularly from Mrs. Egan and I didn’t want to give her credence because…
MR. MURPHY: I understand that…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And have a public debate over someone that everybody in this
community knows does an excellent job down there.
MR. MURPHY: Okay. But my point is this, she made the comment. You did not refute or
rebut her at that time and if anybody read my resignation letter, did anybody read it? Okay?
You could not possibly conceive that it was bad management, the reason I am leaving. But to
allow this woman to read something into the public record without comment, it looks like you
are almost agreeing with her. You could have said, excuse me, Mrs. Egan, I have the letter right
here. Let me read it to you. If you have a copy, I will read it myself right now. Okay? But I
just think it was….
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: You are 100% right. And Karen is owed a public apology tonight
which I will extend and she is also owed an apology tomorrow, when personally I will go see
her.
MR. MURPHY: Thank you.
Couniclman Ross
Supervisor Russell
J.L. Conway, Southold
JL CONWAY: JL Conway, Southold. Two things. Garbage along the streets, that is something
that really bothers me and whenever I talk to anyone about it, it usually ends up being a
conversation on how it got there. Maybe you guys can talk about what to do about it rather than
how it got there. And number two, deer population. If anybody is looking around the fields
lately, it is exploding, it is becoming dangerous. It is a matter of time before there is a fatal
accident or when we have Lyme disease and I know it can be a touchy subject and you guys
can’t directly do anything, you have to work with the DEC but treat it as a health and safety issue
and look at it that way.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, you are a 100% right. The litter issue, I had proposed a
volunteer litter corps several months ago. Dan Ross, who had done a lot of this in the past, had
suggested I sort of find a sponsor organization to help me shepherd this. I just met with the new
Greenport/Southold president of the Chambers of Commerce, who wants to take this on. So
what we would like to do as sort of co-sponsors, create this little corps of volunteers to assist and
also with DPW’s assistance and also wherever else we can find that help to attack the litter issue,
which is town wide, back streets, main streets, everywhere. I grew up out here, I never
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remember seeing the roads so littered in all my life. On the deer issue, I have been struggling
everyday, you know, the funny thing is to make the DEC happy, I get a no from the Suffolk
Department of Health. To get the Department of Health, I get a no from them. It is a huge crisis
and it is a health crisis and that is another issue I am meeting with the east end Supervisor’s on
Thursday. You are exactly right.
MR. CONWAY: Thank you.
Julie Rapuano
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Can I have everybody at least go and then you can come back?
Ma’am?
JULIE RAPUANO: My name is Julie Rapuano, I live in Cutchogue. We were late, we were at
the Cutchogue stakeholders meeting, so I just have one question. Has the revised traffic study
been initiated for the hamlet?
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: Revised what?
MS. RAPUANO: Traffic study. Are we doing a new traffic study?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, I think the applicant for the Heritage had to, through the
positive dec of the SEQRA redo and undertake a new traffic study. I don’t know what the status
of that traffic study is. The Planning Board would know, if you talk to them. It is one of several
things that the applicant had to do to work through the positive declaration of the SEQRA
process.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: I would like to add to this.
MS. RAPUANO: Okay.
COUNCILMAN WICKHAM: During the work session this morning, the Town Board took up
the letter that the chair of your Cutchogue hamlets, Jane Minerva, addressed to the Planning
Board and a copy to us. That letter asked that there be a traffic study done for the Cutchogue
village area. We discussed it for a while today and agreed that we would take it up in detail two
weeks from today when the Cutchogue stakeholders will appear at, we hope, at a work session
with the Town Board. So rather than taking action on it today, we wanted to wait for two weeks
when you and other stakeholders will be here with us in the morning.
MS. RAPUANO: Thank you very much. That is just what we wanted to know. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Just let me point out that when I met with the stakeholders months
ago, who were trying to solve those traffic issues in Cutchogue, I suggested to them that the
recommend that the Town Board get them a consultant. It is one thing to remember here though,
we have that community that is coming in, that new community that is being proposed for that
property and I don’t want to pay to do their heavy lifting. If they need traffic mitigation issues
for their project, they should do that. When they are complete with theirs, then we need to take
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the ball and run with it for the rest of those concerns that Councilman Wickham had talked
about, those community wide concerns. Cutchogue has had traffic issues for a long, long time.
MS. RAPUANO: Oh, yeah. They had quite a list tonight.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That is right.
MS. RAPUANO: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Benja?
Councilman Wickham
Benja Schwartz
BENJA SCHWARTZ: Thanks, Scott. Benja Schwartz, Cutchogue. I also wanted to speak about
the proposed residential development in Cutchogue known as the Heritage project. I think it was
originally, well, it is on the site of a project that was once known as Seacroft and then it was
called the Hamlet and now it is the Heritage and I don’t want to take up a lot of time but I just
thought that somebody should make it known that this development, I heard that it is the largest
undeveloped hamlet density, high density parcel left in the Town of Southold. It is almost 50
acres. I think their plans are to develop somewhat less than that but still it is going to be a major
addition to the Town of Southold, not just the Cutchogue hamlet and I don’t think it is getting
enough attention. One question that has been asked many times and I have never really heard
much of an answer for it is, how much development is too much for the Town of Southold? And
I can’t give you a comprehensive final answer to that but I could say that the proposal on this 50
acres in downtown Cutchogue is too much. I think that we need to really take a hard look and
maybe the Town Board needs to get more involved in this process and think about rezoning it to
a lower density. You know, I am building a little barn, 8 x 8 barn right now, that is a lot of work
but to build hundreds of houses at once, it is going to make major difference of the character of
the North Fork and I am hoping that we can manage that. I am not very happy with the way it
has been handled so far by the Planning Board. The Planning Board is designated lead agency
and they have the authority to hear all the comments pursuant to the New York State
Environmental, the SEQRA process. They had a scoping session at which they said the scope
that was proposed, the draft scope that was proposed by the developer would be the, the
comments would be limited to that scope and I think we need to hear a much broader scope on
such a major project as this. And the scoping which is the first stage of a three stage
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environmental impact process is going to be open until only September 4. Any issue that is not
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raised by September 4 still could be raised in the draft environmental impact and other issues
will develop but the scoping is the seeds, that is the core of the environmental impact statement.
If we don’t raise it now, it is not going to be raised. Unfortunately, the Planning Board has taken
the position that issues such as rezoning are not relevant. Because they don’t have the power to
rezone. Well, you, our Town Board does have the power to rezone. And I would ask that you
give that serious consideration. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Thank you.
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Charles Katon, Bray Avenue, Laurel
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mr. Kayton.
CHARLES KAYTON: Charles Kayton, Bray Avenue. All I wanted to say is that we finally got
the water fixed. Believe me when I tell you, you don’t have to do anything else down there.
what happened is when they dug the holes, I was there and I said to the guy, listen, there is a hard
pan down there, you have got to get rid of it. Took them all out, checked all the pipelines and
one of the big main pipes was crushed. Nothing even went through there. Put a whole new line
in, cleaned all the pools out, added tops, lifted the pool up about four foot, they put the water in,
pushed water in from one to the other, dry. And it has never been dry in 30 years. Nothing has
got to be done. If anything ever has to be done again, what you can do is add a few more pools in
the back but I don’t think you are going to need that anymore. Let it go for a while. It was
wonderful not to see no trucks coming down putting these lanterns up. Every time I see one of
them trucks, I think about money. It costs the Town, you guys paid a lot of money with that.
That cost you $35,000 or $40,000 just waiting for that water. I want to say thank you to Pete
Harris, did a good job and thanks to the Board for listening to me. Good night, god bless you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Did you say your name, Charles Kayton from Laurel? Okay. I
found out earlier that I don’t make sure that people do that enough, so I have to make sure it gets
done. I am sorry, can the lady go, Frank? And I still have Mrs. Egan to go. Let everybody get
their first chance and then I will have you right up, after. Sure.
Joan Fleck, East Marion
JOAN FLECK: Joan Fleck, Bay Avenue, East Marion. The condition of East Marion down at
the bay is deplorable. It has been all broken up and dangerous since the storm in September,
then some storms in the winter made it worse. In addition to that, there is a chain link fence that
is completely contrary to you people have a prohibition of chain link fences and there is this
chain link fence has been there for over 14 years and someone has required that part of that fence
be removed. So they removed it but not to the prescribed 10 feet above mean high tide. They
just removed it to high tide. But it is not allowed, that chain link fence. And then the other day,
I realized within the last two weeks, there is a broken, very dangerous remains of an old jetty and
under the bottom strip of wood, within the last two weeks, there has been another piece of metal
fencing. I don’t know whether it is chain link or chicken wire or what it is, to the sand.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Did you bring this to the attention of the Trustees? Or the Bay
Constable?
MS. FLECK: I did, four years ago.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: They should hear about that again because they have been very
involved in working with that chain link fence and getting that removed.
MS. FLECK: Well, they are not making a move to remove that chain…
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They worked very hard, there were legal issues that needed to be
resolved and we passed legislation, we have changed the code to allow them to give them more
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might to remove that. In that particular case, the owner was unwilling to move it and there was a
separate legal action to make him.
MS. FLECK: And when will it happen?
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: I don’t know. You should talk to the Trustees about that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: They are very committed to doing that. And that started actually
when Albert was Trustee.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: And if there is actually additions, fence additions to a jetty, they
should know about that also.
MS. FLECK: Also there is a totally illegal homemade jetty, was put out. I went to the Trustees
four years ago about that. I talked to the Bay Constable, I talked to somebody up in Albany and
the Trustees said they went there at low tide and couldn’t see it and it is very visible. It goes out
about 12 feet or so and it has caused the scouring out whatever little bit of sand we used to have.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would you contact my office tomorrow? We will go over those
specifics and then I will relay that over to the Trustees and the Bay Constable? And the LWRP
committee.
MS. FLECK: Okay.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: And the road ending thing is, I guess a Highway Department thing.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yeah, we had some issues there. A lot of it had to do with historic
flooding etc that we need a place to put that water volume. There is no question about it. And I
have reached out to a landowner out there, we are looking for some drainage easements and
things like that.
MS. FLECK: The bay is going in under the remains of the road. So it is constantly getting
undermined. It keeps getting worse.
COUNCILMAN KRUPSKI: Right.
MS. FLECK: So I will call your office?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Call my office tomorrow and I will take down the specifics and we
will try to get them addressed.
MS. FLECK: Thank you very much.
Joan Egan, East Marion
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Mrs. Egan.
JOAN EGAN: Joan Egan, East Marion. The school opening signs posted, you should maybe
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have one out here already. They will be posted very shortly. I don’t know whether you have
been following the water problem up island which is happening here, you still have a big water
spout here. There is water spouts all over. We are sinking. That is from over development and
the environment. I think after last Town Hall meeting it is quite obvious you need a good
maritime lawyer and a good riparian rights lawyer. What happened at the last Town Hall
meeting is going to happen again and let’s not let it get to the New York State Supreme court,
let’s take care of our business here by having proper consultants. We spend so much money.
The cell phone thing is going on and people come after me, honking the horn after I ruin their
calls. Everybody’s head are falling off. One, two, three. Shame on you. Nighty-night.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am looking at you intently, with my hand….
MS. EGAN: Huh?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am looking at you intently like this. I am sorry. Was I doing
something wrong?
MS. EGAN: You are holding your head up.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, that is only to strike a pose to look intently at what you are
saying.
COUNCILMAN ROSS: Mrs. Egan, do you have any comments on Mr. Murphy’s comments?
MS. EGAN: Uh, I wouldn’t stoop so low.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Mr. Carlin.
MS. EGAN: And you tell him that you don’t call somebody she, you use their name. Bye-bye.
And that was rude on your part to bring that up, Mr. Ross. You are wrong. As usual.
Frank Carlin, Laurel
MR. CARLIN: I mentioned this to Jean Cochran when she was Supervisor and to Josh Horton
and I am going to mention it to you. about Karen McLaughlin. I know Karen McLaughlin, I
have worked with her a few times and she is doing a very good job over there and she is running
that place pretty well. And I want you to know that and I mentioned it to Supervisor’s even
before then. And I know when you tell her to call you, she will call you back and I have worked
with her a couple of times and I know her. She is very good, she is doing a good job there.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: She is among the best. Thank you very much, Mr. Carlin. Would
anybody else like to address the Town Board? (No response) Motion to adjourn?
Motion To:
Adjourn Town Board Meeting
COMMENTS - Current Meeting:
RESOLVED
that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned at
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__9:48 P.M.
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Elizabeth A. Neville
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
William P. Edwards, Councilman
SECONDER:
Albert Krupski Jr., Councilman
AYES:
Krupski Jr., Edwards, Ross, Wickham, Russell
ABSENT:
Louisa P. Evans