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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-01/25/1990 TRUSTEES John M. Bredemeyer, III, President Henry P. Smith, Vice President Albert J. Krupski, Jr. John L. Bednoski, Jr. John B. Tuthill Telephone (516) 765-1892 BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES TOWN OF SOUTHOLD SCOTT L. HARRIS Supervisor Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 Southold, New York 11971 Fax (516) 765-1823 Telephone (516) 765-1800 MINUTES OF MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 2~, 1990 PRESENT WERE: John M. Bredemeyer, III, President Henry P. Smith, Vice President Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Trustee John L. Bednoski, Jr., Trustee John B. Tuthill, Trustee Jane Blados, Clerk Next Trustee Board Meeting: February 22 or 27, Worksession: at 6:00 PM Field Inspections: Tuesday, February 13 or 20, 1990 at 7:00 PM 1990 at 1:00 PM A motion was made by Henry Smith and seconded by John Tuthill to set tentative dates for the next Board meeting, depending on Meeting Hall availability. ALL AYES. CALL TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF OCTOBER 19, 1989 MEETING: ALBERT KRUPSKI made a motion to approve the October minutes, seconded by JOHI~ BEDNOSKI. ALL AYES. I. MONTHLY REPORT: The Trustee monthly report for December 1989; a check for $2,608.89 was issued to the Supervisor's Office for deposit in the General Fund. The yearly report for the 1989 year: a total of $47,514.84. II. PUBLIC NOTICES: Public Notices are posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board for review and copies are available in the Trustee Office for most of these items. III. COMMUNICATIONS Board of Town Trustees 2 1. Letter from the Town Clerk to the Trustees regarding Association of Towns Meeting. If any Trustee is interested in attending, contact the office so that we can forward that interest to the Town Board as soon as possible. No agenda was available at this time. 2. Letter from Joe Sawicki, State Assembly encouraging the Conditional Shellfishing Programs in Mattituck Creek and Mill Creek be turned into seasonal programs, given the problem with the weather. The Baymen have not been able to get out as often as they'd like. AMENDMENTS/CHANGES 1. Rescind resolution of Negative Declaration on Narrow River. JOEN BREDEMEYER: This item had to be rescinded because the project lies within a critical environmental area. The Conditioned Negative Declaration was not proper without a formal Lead Agency vote. So, I would move that the Board rescind the Negative Declaration on this project. Second: JOH~ BEDNOSKI ALL AYES. JOHN BREDEMEYER: We are past the designated time for public hearings, so I would take a motion to recess the regular meeting and enter public hearing. HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we recess our meeting and start our public hearings which are stated at 7:00 o'clock. JOHN BREDEMEYER: The time now being 7:20. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second ALL AYES VI. HEARINGS: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MATTER OF THE FOLLOWING APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE SUFFOLK TIMES AND AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER WATCHMAN. PERTINENT CORRESPONDENCE MAY BE READ PRIOR TO ASKING FOR COMMENTS FROM TR-E PUBLIC. 7:20 PM JOHlq BREDEM_EYER: The first public hearing we have this evening is in the matter of John H. Geideman on behalf of GRANT. H. LENNOX, Knoll Circle, East Marion to construct a 65' bulkhead on property fronting Spring Pond. Is there anyone here to speak on behalf of this application? I am GRANT LENNOX. Mr. Geideman was unable to attend the meeting, so I am here. I happen to be a professional engineer; I'm not licensed in this state. I'm from New Jersey. I don't know your normal routine, here, so you'll have to excuse me if I.... JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K., now if you'd just speak into the microphone over there, it might be just as easy. If you would, for all speakers at the public hearing, if you would kindly sign Board of Town Trustees 3 the sign-in sheet at the back of the room before you leave or before you speak, so that we can complete the record and have your name accurately on the file. The procedures, basically are that the public hearing gives an opportunity for people on behalf of, or against a project, or explain various aspects of it. GRANT LENNOX: First of all, I have a set of plans, here, which I can make available. I have three copies, if you'd like to have them in front of you. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Yes, we would, thanks. HENRY SMITH: Didn't ah...The problem the Board saw is that, alternate #2 bulkhead.., yes, this is the one we're going to go by, John. AL KRUPSKI: Alternate #2, Henry? HENRY SMITH: Right, because there was marsh fringe in front. JOHN BREDF~MEYER: Actually, alternate ~2 is even more of what we had looked at. Mr. Lennox, as you were saying.. GRANT LENNOX: OK, if I can explain a little bit about this. It has never been totally bulkheaded, string bulkhead across here, but nothing with piles driven in. People on either side of the property have had theirs bulkheaded and had been done for some time. One of them was bulkheaded back in the thirties, property to the west was bulkheaded, as far as I can determine, sometime in the fifties, so it's been considerable time. They both have a wrap-around wing wall coming up our property line. That leaves us with kind of a beach front that's jutting out into this lagoon. JOHN BREDEMEYER: The Trustees have all visited the site and are very familiar with it. GRANT LENNOX: OK, so we have a ...considerable erosion coming down my property developing this beach and pushing it out into this lagoon which is causing a problem. I would like to construct a bulkhead from point to point on those two existing bulkheads, both to the west and to the east, and that's the basis for our application for a 65' bulkhead, continuing the bulkhead in line that's existed for many, many years. The DEC wrote back and said they would like several alternatives to discuss, and that's the reason, in my letter, that I... JOHN BREDEMEYER: We saw that. GRANT LENNOX: That's why we went through and suggested four alternatives, the first one being, do nothing, which I don't think is the proper answer to this for either the benefit of myself or the ecology of the area, or Gardiners Bay Homeowners Association, or the preservation of the lagoon. The second alternative was to build the bulkhead 10 feet back. I really don't know what that would accomplish. I am not in favor of that myself, and very strongly not in favor because two reasons being that there is a tidal flow in this lagoon, and if you have these two obstructions in tidal flow, you are going to just build up a pile of sediment on both corners of the existing bulkheads; and secondly, it's going to cause me a problem, I think, with liability. We're are going to have these two bulkheads projecting out 10 feet in to the lagoon. Somebody is liable to run into them, we get..it's very narrow there now. We Board of Town Trustees 4 do, occasionally, have boats that are going in and going out at the same time. Somebody is going to get over so far that they're liable to run into that thing, and I'll have a problem as far as liability is concerned. The third alternative is to follow the existing irregular high water line, which would be kind of ridiculous because of the extreme irregularity of the existing high water line. And the third (? s/b 4th) alternative is to build the bulkhead along a pre-established, existing bulkhead line, which I am requesting from point to point, the 65' bulkhead. That, with a minor amount of dredging in front of my bulkhead to deepen this channel a little bit, would greatly improve the entire area. I don't think the affect on the ecology would be worth considering. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you. If I just might add one thing at this point just to summarize where we're at in this application with respect to our review for the Board and yourself. At the last meeting, the Trustees issued a conditional Negative Declaration on this after completing a a Long Environmental Assessment Form (LEAF), and the condition that we imposed, I guess you may have heard, was the fact that we wanted, this what you call alternative #2 in place, because we felt we are going to be losing coastal mud flat and shoal, which could be productive shellfish habitat, since it's vegetated, you know, wetland. It's probably our highest priority wetland to protect. Consequently, for the Board to entertain one of the other alternatives, that conditioned Negative Declaration would automatically fail and we would have to ask for a positive environmental declaration and go through an additional scoping procedure to find out exactly how mud flat is going to be lost to the bulkheading, and what's there as far as shellfish and such. So that, I think the Board is ...based on the condition negative declaration, the Board is very strongly predisposed toward this other alternative, but if you want to, the Board could proceed with the scoping session at another time and discuss the investigation of the alternatives. But at this point, it's sort of directed in the direction of your one alternative you gave, if that's acceptable. GRANT LENNOX: I don't know if that's acceptable or not. If I get backed into a corner, I would have to make that decision. I don't like the idea, as I already explained it. I don't like the idea at all. I wish I had known you were considering this when you adopted this conditional negative declaration, I think that a ... I don't know your procedure here, but it would seem to me .... JOHN BREDEMEYER: Well, we had encouraged the person who represented you to come to the meeting, and I .. for whatever reason... GRANT LENNOX: I don't know, I didn't hear anything about the meeting, so I don't know whether he knew about it or not. I am from out of state, as I said, so I'm not right on top of it. JOHN B~nEMEYER: We did contact him to be here this evening, because we thought that we could possibly work it out where we did have alternatives that were in keeping with the conditional Board of Town Trustees 5 negative declaration and we thought possibly be acceptable. In any case, I talked to a ... Does anyone else have any comments? ALBERT KRUPSKI: Well, it's just that this Board, historically, in rather recent history, has looked unfavorably upon new bulkheading of any kind because of the destruction of marine habitat, and if the neighbors have it, we don't want to rely on the mistakes of the past that keep perpetuating themselves. Of course, looking to protect your property from erosion, that we don't have a problem with, and your alternative #2 is something that we had in mind when we looked at your property; something that would give you your protection, and yet, preserve as much of the marine habitat as possible. GRANT LENNOX: Well, my answer to that is, as I stated before, I don't like the idea because of the fact you are going cause the erosion and silting at the two corners. Secondly,... AL KRUPSKI: If I could answer one at a time. That condition shouldn't change because those two corners exist already, and there shouldn't be any change then. GRANT LENNOX: The fact that, periodically, that channel needs dredging. When they dredge, they get into my property inside of the line that is my property according to 1924 filed map, which means you are going to be digging into this so called mud flat that you want to preserve, anyway. If we put this bulkheading across where I want it, and don't dredge it out, we'll accomplish your purpose. However, the Gardiners Bay Estates Homeowners Association, in the future, is going to request permission to dredge that channel out, because as I stated in this letter, eventually, it is going to be so silted up that you're not going to be able to get through there with a motor and a tilt situation. So I really don't think we have a lot of choice in this matter. JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, I think you stated your case very clearly. Are there any other comments from anyone here in favor or against this application? I would like to speak in favor of it. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Please do. Would you come up and identify yourself for the record? MY NAME IS BOB EGAN. I'm an owner of property, not in~,ediately adjacent, but skip one piece of land, ... feet, and you are on my property. I've been a resident of Gardiners Bay about 30 years, I've owned the same property, I've known Mr. Lennox and his family, and I've known the situation. At one point, for about a five year period, I was president of the association and with that came all the problems of dredging and keeping our lagoon. I'm sure you gentlemen have been down there and know what we mean by the lagoon, that little stream of water, which by the way, does provide boating for about twenty people and their boats. And it's a fact that we had to dredge it at a great deal of expense over the years, this back lagoon. Primarily, because of the peculiarity of the shape of the lagoon and a contour does now exist. Now, I speak not only from personal knowledge, but also prior to retirement, I was in the position of a port director in the state of Louisiana. I had responsibilities for a long stretch of the Mississippi River, Board of Town Trustees 6 from Baton Rouge down onto New Orleans, and we came across this situation many, many times. What develops is, that when you have a small body of water, that the time of high water on the flood current, the water pressure will build up. As it proceeds into the back lagoon, it rises. On the egress or on the inflow by the low water, it transfers back out into the bay, and then by the .... (inaudible) effect of the bay .... this water. It's a slooping effect. If you can speed the flow of that water, you remove more sediment. You slow it down, the sediment drops along the way. Now, you can't go down there with an instrument that I know of, and measure that. I can tell you a fact, it happens, in many ports, rivers, and it's happened to us over the years. Army engineers have found that out, many times. The question now becomes, "what is bad for the ecology?" Do we do something along the shore, and in this case, extend that to an actual bulkhead headline, as Mr. Bredemeyer is suggesting, or do we say no...(rustling of papers, inaudible) and then does it mean we have to dredge that much more. Beside from the expense, what is it doing to the ecology? I can assure you that dredging does more harm than any bulkhead built on silted ground. Once you start digging into that mud, you'd be surprised what comes up, all sorts of marine life, and we down there have seen a loss of our crabs, we've seen the loss of our soft clams, and I attribute a lot of that to necessary dredging, just so that we have access to the lagoon there. So we, can...we have an immediate neighbor with us tonight, Mrs. Hicks, former Mrs. Hicks of Long Island, or Miss Hicks..they've been in the family, they own that adjacent property for seventy years. They are all aware of it, of the situation, and speaking with our neighbors, I'm not representing the association officially tonight, cause most of our officers are out of town, but I think I can comfortably say the organization's wish, and we have a hundred members there, that this application, alternative #4 be granted. The technicality of the negative resolution, or whatever it is, I wasn't aware of that myself, I don't know how it works, and I can understand his position, if you've taken steps so far, sometimes it's a little cumbersome to go back. But I wish the Board, and I'd ask the Board on behalf of the association, that they consider, in some way, Mr. Grant's (Grant Lennox) application and use alternative ~4, which is to construct the bulkhead point to point, from the westerly point to the easterly point, and I think that would benefit the community, and obviously, benefit Mr. Grant (Grant Lennox). Thank you for your time. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you. Is there anyone else here to speak on behalf of this application or against it? LARRY TUTHILL: I would just like to state this application, essentially meets all the requirements of a bulkhead, I mean for a permit. Essentially maybe there are a few crabs in there or wildlife, but it doesn't substantiate the fact the ah .... environment or so, and so to approve this, is nothing..it should be granted because there really isn't anything that is adversely affected by this bulkhead. I think it should be approved. Board of Town Trustees 7 JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you, anyone else? There being no further comments, I'll close this hearing. Before I continue on the agenda, the matter of the Narrow Marina Dredging had been occasioned by some corrective resolutions under SEQRA, and consequently, it did not go on, was not published for this month's hearing, but I understand a number of people have come out tonight, and so to initially start some dialogue on that, we will open it up as if a hearing, but the official hearing will actually, more than likely, open next month, so we will take co~Lu~ents on the record and attach it, annex it directly to the public hearing when it's publicly held. MR. LENNOX: Do I have to officially request that you reconsider that negative dec? JOHN BREDEMEYER: No, you don't have to. I think you made your case very clear. The Board will review the public hearing, and we will act accordingly. The action will be continued and you will be notified of how we dispense with it. MR. LENNOX: By mail or what? JOHN BREDEMEYER: We can notify your agent. AL KRUPSKI: I think I can clarify that negative declaration. It means that there will be a negative affect on the environment. See, a positive one means that .... MR. LENNOX: I understand what you are saying. You already adopted the stand. I'm asking you to reconsider. JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK That's fine, we understand that. The Board will have to consider both our environmental declaration and the public hearing before we would continue. We will have to reconsider both of these. I think it's understood, you want us to reconsider. ALBERT KRUPSKI: I just wanted to make sure Mr. Lennox understood. MR. LENNOX:: All these decisions are made in public? JOHN BREDEMEYER: Ail these decisions are made in public. You can stay here, we'll probably discuss the environmental declaration. It comes on the agenda again, because of the fact that you requested we re-consider, and so that it will come up as a discussion further on, in the agenda, if you wish to stay, and including the possibility we might vote a permit out tonight. On occasion, we vote pe£mits following the public hearing. If you wish to stay through the body of the meeting, additional discussion will take place here tonight. Everything we do is in public as required by law. MR. LENNOX: I understand, thank you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: The next public hearing is in the matter of the application of J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of PETER BAVARO Lupton Point Road, Mattituck, to remove an existing 4' x 30' catwalk, construct a 4' x 60' catwalk (elevated a minimum of 4' over grade), a 3' x 12 ramp., and a 6' x 30' float, which will be secured by two spile dolphins. Property adjacent to Deep Hole Creek. Is there anyone here to speak on behalf of this Board of Town Trustees 8 application? Is there anyone here, anyone here to speak against this application? Any member of the Trustee Board wish to comment on this application? There being no co~,ents, I close the hearing. 7:41 PM... JOHN BRRnEMEYER: It is now 7:41 and the matter of the application of JOHN AND NANCY PEARSON, scheduled for 7:02. Application on South Harbor Road, Southold, NY to clear away multiflora and catbrier from an area within 150' of Richmond Creek and replant undergrowth with oak, beech, and hickory seedling, native shrubs and ground cover, such as bayberry, blueberry, kalmia, etc. and cover all soil with leaves or hay until undergrowth is established. Is there anyone here to speak on behalf of this application? NANCY PEARSON: I think that about says what we intend to do. If you have any questions about that, I can answer them. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Sounds like it speaks for itself. CAC comments? JOHN HOLZAPFEL: No problems on it. We mentioned the hay, and that wasn't in there, I don't think, at the beginning. HENRY SMITH: What are the CAC comments on this, Peter Bavaro? JOHN HOLZAPFEL: I think I said it last month just as a general policy, the length of the docks again, you know, that was one of the questions we...there's no problem with it at all as far as we're concerned. HENRY SMITH: Yeah, but I think it's because of the general geography ..... JOHN HOLZAPFEL: I think its just the way the thing curves, but just as a .... there was another one last month, if you remember that's going out 120 feet or something and just want you to consider the fact that those docks are getting longer and longer, but there's no problem. HENRY: Thank you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone here to speak against the (Pearson) application? Trustees, any comments? HENRY SMITH: I've gotno problem with it. This is going to be done this spring, I take it, so when you do disturb the vegetation, it has a chance to gain its spring growth. NANCY PEARSON: It will be immediately replanted. What's been happening, we noticed that the catbrier and multiflora is encroaching out of the woods, and we tried to clear it, my husband and I, by hand. This way we can replant it and keep that down, and there's no opportunity for any natural undergrowth replacement to take place. HENRY SMITH: OK, I agree, but I just didn't want the project started sometime like in October, or something like that. JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, if there are no further comments, we'll close the hearing in that matter. Board of Town Trustees 9 JOH~ BREDEMEYER: The next hearing is in the matter of the application of En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of ROBERT BARRY, ESQ., West Shore Drive, Southold to replace (within 18") an existing high retaining wall 76' in length. New wall will be approximately 6' lower in elevation than existing wall, which will be cut lower. A second retaining wall will be built approximately 4' landward and will match existing grade elevation. Fill removed from behind old wall will be used to fill depressed area behind wall. A 25' return on the e/s and a 15' return on the w/s will be built. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on behalf of this application? ROY HAJE, EN-CONSULTANTS: Both Mr. and Mrs. Barry are present. I just received, yesterday I believe it was, a DEC permit for the project, which I would like to make part of your record. SPEAKER: We can keep that? ROY HAJE: Yes. ALBERT KRUPSKI: It does conform with the application we have before us? ROY HAJE: Yes, it does. There was a question from the Building Inspector. I received a copy of that letter alleging that the bulkhead was subject to the FEMA requirements. As you know, if you have been to the site, I assume you have, the existing bulkhead is quite high, some twelve or thirteen feet high. What we propose to do is make it two step rather than one, which we feel would be more stable, replace the existing within 18", build the second step back. We had a case for this a couple of years ago, now up on the sound where a similar comment was made by the Building Inspector. It was decided, at that time, I'm afraid I can't recall the name anymore, but bulkheads are not subject to those FEMA requirements and that is more properly addressed to buildings and structures and first floor renovations. I don't think, again, that the FEMA where it should be applicable, bulkheading, to my knowledge just has never been before, either in Southold or any other town on the Island. We simply propose to replace an existing structure. There are other bulkheads on both sides, which are lower. Many bulkheads have been built elsewhere, which are less than +8 which is the flood plain reg(regulations) for buildings. I see no reason why that should apply here. Similarly, the DEC, who has their own coastal erosion, has approved the project as evidenced by the permit you have before you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you. Is there anyone else who wishes to speak on behalf of the application? Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm MR. BARRY. I would just like to say that I wish we didn't have to make this application, obviously. That retaining wall is about 50 years old and is about to collapse. The reason we're going in two steps, as Mr. Haje indicated, one is from a structural stand point, the other from an esthetic stand point. We felt like we're sitting up in a tower these past few years with all the other bulkheads down six or seven feet. Really, all we're trying to do is to replace an existing wall, and do it in two steps. I thank you. Board of Town Trustees 10 JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you. Anyone else here to speak on behalf of the application? Anyone here to speak against the application? Trustee members, any comments from Trustee Board? HENRY SMITH: Yes, I inspected this bulkhead, myself, and I think the way that they're stating to do it, is the only sensible way to do it, and I think the sooner it's done, the better because that thing is, I would say, is dangerously ready to blow out. I'm glad I don't own it, that' all I can tell you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Any further co~,~,ents? Being none, we will move to the next public hearing. In the matter of the application of Proper-T Services on behalf of JOHN F. O"GRADY, West Cove Road, Cutchogue, NY to construct a 16' x 40' swimming pool, construct 115' (approximate) retaining wall, excavate and regrade rear yard, and construct addition to house. Is there anyone here to speak on behalf of this application? JIM FITZGERALD for Dr. O'Grad¥, if you have any questions. JOHN BREDEMEYER: No questions. How did the CAC move in this matter, John, do you recall? JOHN HOLZAPFEL: We just had some concerns with the thing.. bulkheading or retaining wall going right to the edge of the cliff. You know, we suggested leaving it, ending it off a little short of that, 10 or 15 feet. I think we talked about it last month. It was just a question, maybe for my own information, we spoke about the pool, too, and the direction of the pool, whether it runs towards the or, you know ..... JIM FITZGERALD: It's not practical to have it run north and south. JOHN HOLZAPFEL: OK, our concern was putting the pool close to a high cliff like that. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Are there any other co~ents with respect to this application, either for or against? JOHN HOLZAPFEL: I just suggest a vegetated buffer, too, you know, along that .. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Any comments from the Trustees? ALBERT KRUPSKI: I think what John Holzapfel just brought out is something the Trustees forgot to bring out in the public hearing for Mr. Lennox, that there should be some sort of vegetative buffer, maybe 10 feet, you know, at the top of the bluff. JIM FITZGERALD: In this case, the existing grass goes right to the edge of the bluff, so are you suggesting that it should be planted with something? JOHN BREDEMEYER: Or not be lost during the construction, I think. JIM FITZGERALD: Right, well, if you recall, regrading is part of it, to lower the... JOHN BREDEMEYER: That's correct. JIM FITZGERALD: So it will certainly be replanted. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Any further comments? There being no further comments, we will close the hearing in the matter of John F. O~Grady. Board of Town Trustees 11 JOH~ BREDEMEYER: In the matter of the NARROW RIVER MARINA, we will open it for comments which we will annex to the public hearing when it is held at the next meeting, when it is scheduled. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Why are we doing this? JOHlq BREDEMEYER: Because the chairman at the last meeting had indicated we would go to public hearing, and a number of people had called the office and were under the impression there would be a public hearing, and subsequently there was none scheduled. JOHN TUTHILL: There are a lot of people here. JOHN BREDEMEYER: We might just as well take time. OK, anyone wishing to speak on behalf of this application? My name is HARRY FARRIELL: I'm a resident of Connecticut and owner of a 22 foot boat which I use to come visit this beautiful area on a number of occasions during the suK~er. I would just like to relate to you what happened on Monday's outing. We came over to visit the Narrow River Marina, and upon approaching the marina in the area for public boats, launching area, what appeared to be a sufficiently wide charnel, was in fact, quite shallow. Our approach was made during low tide. The out-drive on my boat struck the ground, we lost power. Boats were being launched from the launching area. At that point, it was necessary for me to go inside to keep my boat from other boats that were being launched. In doing so, I received quite a severe cut on the foot. We eventually tied a line on the boat and towed it in to the marina with another boat. It's just my feeling that this dredging project, certainly makes for a much safer approach to the marina, especially in the area where the boats are being launched from the public launching ramp. It gets a little congested in there, due to its being so narrow in depth at low tide. Do you question that? JOHN BRRnEMEYER: There's just one question I have. Do you have a marine toilet on your boat? MR. FARRIELL: No, sir, I don't. JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, thank you, any questions from Board members? Anyone else wishing to speak on this application? MERLON WIGGIN: Just appreciate the opportunity for the people to come and talk about the Narrow River Marina project. I think that maybe the public, people have heard about this, like there's some misconception about this. I'll try to provide some clarification. Also, those who took the time to come here, right after this, if they would like to see the drawings, the photographs, etc., both the owner and myself will be available. We can go out in the hall or whatever they would like to do, if they want to look at the drawings in addition to what we talked about here. First of all, the project is primarily for dredging. It's not, like some people may have heard, for marina enlargement. There is no plan to enlarge the marina. The boats are small; there will be no heads. There are no heads on the Board of Town Trustees 12 boat. This marina is at the end of a historic channel, which goes back many years. Those that remember the old part of Orient, those who have seen the diary and seen the pictures of when they hauled manure in from New York City and used all the farmland. They went adjacent to this area to unload it. Also, they shipped produce out of this; there were side wheels that have been in there and two master sailboats, I'm sure John remembers this. A lot of people talk about this. One of the things we tried to do is utilize that existing channel to sharpen the area that the boats travel back and forth in Hallocks Bay. The cause and the need for this dredging is from silting that has occurred over the years primarily from two sources: the state runoff from the highway and particularly, the culverts under the road, under the town road, and this has caused a lot of build up of silt in that particular area. In fact, when we talked with the Town about getting the permission to stock pile, temporarily, the spoil on the Town property that they said they would try to get some preventive action to try to limit that runoff and silt that has taken place. As I mentioned, the proposal does include the dredging in front of the Town ramp. This is being done as a service by the owner. It's at his expense, and people don't want it cause he'll save money by not doing it. He felt from co~,~,ents here, heard, that the access by the people of Southold Town .... tape being changed .... as a I was talking about, there are hazards that have been developed to the use of the small boat, and that is when the boats run aground at low tide, the silt is so deep and it will not support the weight of a ..(someone coughed)., or even a child. I'm very concerned that someone at low tide, get in there, especially in the early spring, and they try to walk ashore, even though the water may be only a foot deep, it does not support the weight and we are worried about someone getting injured or drowning in silt, and we don't want that to happen, in interest of boating safety. As far as the shellfish, the owner has observed, and he has been in this area, as far as we know and he knows, there's has been no shellfishing in that area of proposed dredging in the two years that he has been there. We discussed the shellfishing with the shellfish people in Stony Brook, they are familiar with the area, they described the conditions, and its their opinion that because of the deep silt will not support either scallops or clams. The shellfish is good outside that area as those as we know clamming in that particular area. To try to do this project right and get everybody involved in it, we held an on-site meeting with the representatives of the regulatory agencies. That was back in May of 1989. Present were Corps of Engineers, DEC, two people from DEC, persons from the Town Board, Town Trustees, and observed and looked at the area and discussed it in detail, and the application was based on the result of that discussion. Believe me, we spent hours going over this, and revie,ing it, so when it came to the application, we followed the guidelines that were given us at that particular meeting. Of course, a lot of time has gone by since that, since May of 1989, and during that time, the Coastal Zone Management has reviewed the project; they've issued their consistency Board of Town Trustees 13 evaluation, which is positive, and the COE is ready to issue their permit; the DEC is waiting on the Town before they do theirs. A concern of the scheduling is the window that the DEC is going to ask that the dredging be done prior to the end of April. We also have Town Board Resolution approving the stock piling of the dredge material with limitations, as you people are already aware. I will ah... there's also other people here, including the owner that would like to comment on this, and hope you will bear with us and as you pointed out, some of these people may not be able to come back again for the public hearing. Thank you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else wish to speak on behalf of this application? MY NAME IS IAN MCLAUGHLIN, I'm a resident of Riverhead Town, and I'm also a small boat owner. My wife and I have kept our boat with Narrow River Marina for the last summer, one season, and I'd just like to speak in favor of granting the permit to dredge. I am familiar with the project; I have discussed with the owner, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that we've had this year, at low tide, with a very small day sailor. We have had on two occasions, to literally have to jump out of the boat and hand carry it into the slip because of the silting directly in front of the marina. I literally was up to my knees and beyond in silt and it wasn't a very pleasant experience. On numerous occasions, I've also witnessed local residents trying to use the public ramp, run into the same problem, and I have also seen them up to their knees in silt. It is a potentially dangerous situation, I would think, and certainly bares looking at. My wife and I, although we are not residents of the Town, are very concerned about preserving the environment. My wife, as a matter of fact, is a biologist at Stony Brook University. She's got nothing to do with the shellfish industry, and she would be quite upset if a project such as this, would upset the environment. So, just as a boat owner who is concerned about the safety and the use of facilities in the water surrounding this area, I strongly urge that you grant this permit. Thank you very much. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone else here to speak on behalf in favor of this application? I'm FRED DACIMO, I own Narrow River Marina and I just want to reinforce a couple of ideas. Number one: we're a small operation and my plans are to stay that way. We try to cater to local people, Southold people. As a matter of fact, I notice Ed White is in the audience. I'm a member of the Orient Rod and Gun Club, and I extend a ten percent discount to any member of the R & G Club with the thought that those are local, I try to, ah, really, ah..do business with most of our local people. Also, as Merl mentioned, we had Ruth Oliver, Ellen Larsen, Freddie Wachsberger representing the Orient Association at our house, reviewing the plans and they had no objections to it. And as you know, the Town Board voted it was okay to put the spoils, temporarily on the Town ramp, which in my mind was a back-door endorsement of the project. I also have a petition that signed off by approximately thirty-five people, and that's, Board of Town Trustees 14 I think I had thirty-eight people, ok, in the marina that support the project , and I would like to submit this to the Board of Trustees for, you know, their consideration. That's about all I have. JOHN BREDEMEYER: A quick question, the petition, you're saying that these names are in addition to those people who normally have boats in the marina? FRED DACIMO: No, those are the people who had boats in the marina, although there are some names on there that don't have boats in the marina. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Could you clarify what do you mean by a back-door endorsement by the Town Board? The Town Board has no regulation over this, actually. FRED DACIMO: I didn't think that they did, except that I would assume, and I may be incorrect, that when I made the request to put dredge spoil on Town property, if the Town Board disapproved what the process of the project itself, I would assume that they would not vote to do that. ALBERT KRUPSKI: I don't believe the Town Board reviewed this project, did they? JOHN BREDEMEYER: They reviewed with respect to spoil placement. I would suspect that there were some preview of the facts surrounding it, but we can't speak for the Town Board. They obviously had to have looked at some of the concerns about use of the Town ramp there. That was discussed, we have a resolution in the file on that. JOHlq TUTHILL: John, do we have a map of where this...? JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes we do, we have a map. OK, anyone else, thank you, Mr. Dacimo, anyone else to speak on behalf of the application? OK, anyone here, ok, are you going to speak on behalf of the application? LARRY TUTHILL: Yes, I'd just like to say one thing. I think the reason why this area is silted and so muddy, is actually, it has been dredged, probably, about in 1960 by Malloy of..over in New London, and I think that this probably should be taken under maintenance dredging, because it was done prior to this, and that's why it is so silted and muddy in that area, and it was done by Ed King back in 1960. JOHN BREDEMEYER: The Trustees were considering other maintenance type as far as our initial review of it. If we did realize there were some activities there prior, and there's the old channel that goes up to it. ALBERT KRUPSKI: We've never seen any documentation proving that though, and we need documentation. JOHN BREDEMEyER: As far as the old Hallock channel, the photographs were submitted... ALBERT KRUPSKI: I'm not talking the Hallock channel. I'm talking about the area of the boat ramp. FROM AUDIENCE: Do you need documentation on it? ALBERT KRUPSKI: Oh, we would, to consider it a maintenance project, absolutely. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Anyone here to speak against the application? Board of Town Trustees 15 RICHARD LATHAM: Some of our people left, I guess they misunderstood and thought it was cancelled, and I guess we'd have more people if more people knew about it. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Well, there'll be a full formal hearing after notification, so..go ahead. RICHARD LATHAM: The..ah ..brought up the original marina, which is illegally placed there; no permit, dredged with no permit, and I don't consider this maintenance dredging. I think that we have a good bay, it's coming back, and we're just going to open it up to some of these bigger boats and ..ah.. problems. It's just a start, it's just a start. It's not a real big deal, just a start. I think you cut it down some, as far as I can see, and I think that's good. I think it should be cut more. The launching ramp should be taken out and put it back behind the line where it's not suitable for shellfishing. We don't want to take it away from the owners, everything, they've got to have something in shoal in there. The survey that you have and the last letter, I think it's January 2, don't seem to match up. JOHN BREDEMEYER: With respect to what? MR. LATHAM: Well, you said no dredging in front of the ramp, but it shows that on the survey. JOHN BREDEMEYER: That has got to be clarified. I believe that in connection was the shoal that the DEC required removed, which was that area in~ediately to the west of the ramp between what would be the ramp and the Kerb's property. That, originally was all that area was included and that's not very specific, that language, but what happened is, the DEC removed that shoal which is full of clams from the dredge project and that was what was meant by no dredging in front of the ramp. The Board hasn't really made a decision on that ramp. We're still gathering, I think, it's a question we're still gathering information, the pros and cons of permitting the immediate area in front of the ramp to be dredged, if any dredging is to take place at all. MR. LATHAM: As far as shellfishing in that area, people are getting shellfish out there, they have. It's not a dead area. As somebody mentioned before, the marina is good for small boats. It's what it's doing now, sailboats, outboards, a twenty-two footer that came in and got stuck, is stretching it a little bit, I think. That's my opinion. If you also advertise "full service", and this marina advertises full service in some folder, and now I don't believe that it is or maybe they intend to be one, but it's not now. I don't think we want to see a full service marina there. As far as the Town Board, I can't believe that the Town Board would do a thing like this just for anyone. I just don't know why. They're just going to make a mess out of it. It'll be a mess when you put 2000 yards of dredge spoil on the place I would think, isn't it? Who's to guarantee, without a performance bond, it'll be put back the way it's supposed to be? JOHN BREDEMEYER: The Town Board, in its wisdom required an insurance policy which is a... Board of Town Trustees 16 MR. LATHAM: That's a liability insurance, I believe, it's not a performance bond to make sure the work is done. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Are you suggesting that if... MR. LATHAM: I'm suggesting a performance bond for whatever you do. I'm also suggesting, whatever you do, and I hope it's smaller than what you want to do, that you have a covenant in perpetuity to restrict further development and enlargement of the marina. I don't think the people can make a full living out of this thing. It's a good marina, but you know, it's not a big one, cash generator, I don't think, and they want to enlarge it. INAUDIBLE, RUSTLING OF MAP It's coming back, just as sure as we're standing here. There's going to be scallops there pretty soon. It's the last good bay we have. Thank you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you, anyone else here to speak against this project? I'm not going to speak against it, but I'm going to speak to get some information. (Stewart Horton) STEWART HORTON: First of all, I have no objection to this project as it is constituted, but I do have some questions. Number one, I am not at all familiar with your procedures as far as issuing resolutions before a public hearing, how does that take place? I may be very naive to ask that question, but that seems to be, again, attacking behind them. JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, if you would like to direct me, I'll be glad to answer that to you. The State Environmental Quality Review Act requires an assessment to be made of a project and declaration of Lead Agency. In other words, who's up first, as the beginning of the process, and so essentially, what takes place, whenever an application comes in, the Trustees have to co-ordinate, particularly when it's in a critical environmental area. We are required by State Law to co-ordinate our activities with the other involved agencies, and for us to conduct any business of co-ordination or any other activity, we have to do it by resolution of the Board, because we have five individuals here with all very different ideas on many different things, and it requires, at least with respect to the applications that are under SEQRA, that we do such a thing. So we decide with the DEC who's up first. In this case, the DEC initially sent us a letter out, saying that they are assuming we're up first and we never even went through the trouble of making that formal resolution, and that's why you have some resolutions that show up prior to the public hearing, but they have nothing to do with the substance of the, as far as lead, the substance of the issuance of a permit or any of the conditions on a permit. That has nothing to do with it. MR. HORTON: ...INAUDIBLE..It says here that it's going to be dredged four feet. Now, is that four feet from bottom level, MLW, or what level? JOHN BREDEMEYER: That's designated usually BMLW is standard. MR. HORTON: Well, as I said, I personally, and I don't think many are in this who are somewhat concerned about this are really concerned about this project per se. The problem is, and I'll put it in my nutshell. Basically, there is a lot of undercurrent against this project in Orient, and I think a lot Board of Town Trustees 17 of it is based on this information. There is a fear and a distrust of the local politics and state politics along with all the other politics, but we have a situation mark going. This leads off almost to the northeast wing of the old channel, almost. That's deep. That channel goes right back to Browns Point and i~,~,ediately runs into shoaling where it's going in between Browns Point and the Peters Neck. Word has come down to some of us who are rather active around Hallocks Bay as hunters and environmentalists, bay people, residents that the Town was going to apply for maintenance dredging permit to make sure, if in some horrendous storm situation and Petes Neck is closed, we can get the County in there and bail it out. Now, by the expression on your face, this is news to you. But this is going on. That leads to a point of, well, we have done this project, and perhaps there are certain machinations that take place over the next few years, and wouldn't it be a good idea if we dredge out between Browns Point and the Petes Neck, or various .... Now this is the psychology you're dealing with in Orient, and I don't believe you, as a Board, can give us any reservations or guarantees that this would not be the case in the future. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Well, I'll give you a guarantee right now. For the term of my office, I've got four more years, I'll never vote for any dredging in the entrance of Hallocks Bay. MR. HORTON: I'm sure the present Board has constituted that it never would. These are some of the underlying concerns. I think they should be addressed, and they probably will be further addressed at the public hearing. So as I say, at this point and time, I have no negative view. I think the maintenance dredging there, it would remove hydrocarbons that have been there from prior usage of heavy metals from the old dump that were there in the 30's and 40's. Fine, but it does lead to the Pandora's Box. JOHN BREDEMEYER: While you're on the subject, since you said it, what about, what prior activities do you know that we should be aware of as far as the immediate area? You said hydrocarbons and heavy metals. MR. HORTON: Probably just about that area alone. The agricultural activities in the 30's 40's and 50's are the parathion and malathion, all the other good things they used. We're now beginning to see the return, seeing small steamers, seeing some grass shrimp, little fiddler cr~hs. It'll be a shame to reverse that trend. As Richie Latham said, it's the last, not pristine, but the last finest bit of water we have in Southold Town, and we'd like to keep it that way. So, I think, perhaps more reassurances might be in order. I got up here to say my piece. You've answered my questions, I think I put out a little info£mation for everybody. I thank you. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Thank you. JOHN TUTHILL: We have a real expert here. Ed Adams, I wish you'd come up and show us where the old channel used to be. I've got the map here. VIEWING THE MAP Board of Town Trustees 18 ED ADAMS: If you want my opinion, I don't think there should be any digging done out here at all. REVIEWING MAP AND PICTURES JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone else that's going to speak on this matter? I'd like a rough show of hands so we can know where the meeting is going. JOHN HOLZAPFEL: In general .... (inaudible,more than one voice) state highway runoff. Are you talking from the Main Road? MERLON WIGGIN: From the Main Road JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Just a point, I've done some puttering around back there, and I suspect ...... more than one voice, cutting out speaker. JOHN TUTHILL: Mr. Wiggin, would you like to come up here and we'll show you where that old channel used to be. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone to speak against this application? If there are no further co~£~L~ents from the people here tonight, the Board members have any questions or have anything to say? JOHN TUTHILL: Well, I've got one comment on it. I think this (survey or map) shows digging out around the marina and into the bay, but also shows about 700 or 800 feet right out into the bay, and that was not the old channel that we just showed. It doesn't seem to me that there's any reason at all for digging this 700 or 800 feet straight out into the bay. Now, we might make some compromise and dig it out right next to the marina a few feet from the end there. JOHN BREDEMEYER: That's something to think about for the future. JOHN TUTHILL: That's my comment on it. I think Hallocks Bay is a , it's what everybody's been talking about and wanted to save and everything. Digging the channel like that is not one way to do it. JOHN HOLZAPFEL: One co~u~ent..I just..what is the application as it stands now? It's been revised a couple of times, it wants to dredge out the marina area ..... JOHN BR~EMEYER: Why don't you come and take a look? Steve Latson, if you want to speak while they're looking at the map. STEVE LATSON: I'm a representative of the Baymen's Association and also I'm in the North Fork Environmental Council. I just want to make a couple of comments, cause I met the same day that Ellen, Ruth and Freddie met with the marina operator, and the map that was there then, we had a lot of problems with. And they had no problem changing the map, the only thing is, now the map isn't the way we changed it, whatsoever. What we all agreed to that day, If I could show you. JOHN TUTHILL: Sure, we need to know that. Here's the map. STEVE LATSON: Well, first of all, we all agreed that shellfishing is very good in front of the boat ramp, which it is, it's excellent, it's all hard bottom. You've heard testimony that people sink in silt there, that's not true, whatsoever. Out in the middle it is very silty. You have to go about 75 feet off the boat ramp, the end of it before you get to the real silty bottom. Historically, twelve years ago when I Board of Town Trustees 19 kept my boat at this marina, it was the same depth then as it is now. JOH~ BREDEMEYER: At the marina or at the town landing? STEVE LATSON: I kept it at the marina. I was rich then. Anyway, you know I had to pull my engine up to get in there at low tide, and it's just always been very shallow there. I don't think you've seen a lot of silt collect in that area because it's so shallow already. It's too shallow to collect more silt. What we finally decided, though, was instead of all this dredging area around this area where there is good shellfishing, in other words, this line is about where the line of good shellfishing ends. We said, if they did propose the channel, it should just go right out the middle, if anything favoring the Samuels or ex Samuels property, be maybe twenty-five feet wide, it's just go down like two feet, and then you'd have three feet of water at low tide, and that would adequately service every boat, go no further out than where Frank Begora's stake is; I don't know if it's still there. (pointing on map as to location) Just have a narrow channel, and the marina operator said that was fine and we have no problem with the bays. JOH~ BREDEMEYER: I think the DEC, I think was one of the ones that did the reviewing of plans, had reluctance of running along that shore, but I'm sure, if that's a concern and we have valuable shellfish lands, we could ask for reconsideration on the line of that. STEVE LATSON: I think what to remind the DEC is that per square foot they're paying more for the Koke-Kerb property than they did the Samuels property. And then they ought to go a little closer to the Samuels property, possibly, and especially because that it is real dead bottom, as long as you don't get out too far. This is the kind of revision we'd like to see and the day we had the meeting with the marine operators, they seemed to be very happy with that. Since then, someone suggested to me that the real reason they want to dredge the boat ramp area so they can get the barge in there either at low or high tide so they can get rid of their spoil. And, you know cause at that bay, well, we don't want to disturb shellfishing. Well, I said this is a great shellfish area and anybody in town knows that. They ought to re-draw this thing, put the channel right through the middle more, keep it to the south, if anything, make it narrow, make a minimal channel, minimal expense to them, and personally, I don't see why they don't use their own parking lot for the temporary spoil. That's the way I feel, and I think the NF Environmental Council feels that way and I think a lot of baymen feel that way. We didn't discuss it at our last meeting, but you know, otherwise, it'll be okay to do a nice small job. JOHN BREDEMEYER: I'm going to say one thing. I'm very concerned about the future, as several people have said. I'm wondering, cause assurances will be what a lot of people will be looking for. I'm wondering, is the operation, Mr. Dacimo, prepared to accept restrictive covenants that the Trustees might place upon it with respect to boat size, and/or degree with Board of Town Trustees 20 which it might request to expand operations in the future out into Town waters? Because, essentially, the operation there exists at the pleasure of this Board in that all the activities are on Town bottom. MR. DACIMO: Yes, I understand, the bottom that's in the marina itself, I own, OK. That's my understanding. I am certainly willing to accept a size being placed on boats, absolutely, that's not a problem, provided that it's bounded by the boats that are currently in the marina. I guess the second thing is, as far as where the channel goes, there's a clear misunderstanding between Mr. Latson and myself. It was very interesting because at the end of our discussion at my house that day, it was my impression that Steve was clearly disturbed with the compromise that was made between Ruth, Ellen Larsen, Freddie Wachsberger, and myself, and Merle was there also. So, I guess, there is something, something missing here, I'm not exactly sure what that is. The third thing I'm very concerned about is, we can go out and put on a set of waders today, now that the ice is gone, and I'd like to see the hard bottom. There are a number of people who will tell you that the bottom is full of muck right across and there isn't any hard bottom in that area. I am absolutely amazed that he can sit there, stand there and say that. ALBERT KRUPSKI: What was the meeting with Ellen Larsen and Ruth Oliver and Freddie Wachsberger? MR. DACIMO: The purpose of discussion ...INAUDIBLE ..... brought up an interesting point as far as what kind of information is out there on this project, and really our intent in that discussion was to explain what the project was and get input from different individuals. ALBERT KRUPSKI: But, you used the word "compromise" in that, that just goes back to the back-door deal you talked about with the Town Board that ... HENRY SMITH: It was just a figure of speech. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Let me finish, let me finish, please. I don't understand why or how you're making a compromise on the project with the Board that you are dealing with not present. I don't quite understand. MERLON WIGGIN: I would like to clear up the misunderstanding. It was a pre-application meeting at the site with representatives of the Trustees ...INAUDIBLE.. Albert Kruspski spoke at same time saying he was present. ALBERT KRUPSKI: No, no, I'm referring to a separate meeting with members of the people besides, besides members of the Board of Trustees ...... INAUDIBLE .... someone in audience speaking at the same time. FROM AUDIENCE, POSSIBLY MR. DACIMO: The purpose of the meeting with the Town Board individuals was really to cut them into the project, because we were asking to place spoil on the property. In response to the other point, as far as dredging in front of the Town ramp, I won't be in that dredging project in front of the Town ramp, it'll save me some money. I'm offering that just as a service to the Town. If the Town does not want that, I will be glad to delete that from the project. Board of Town Trustees 21 HENRY SMITH: It seems to me that a while back, you came to this idea of this dredging thing, and we told you that you had to come up with a spoil site before we could even consider it, and I think you came up with that spoil site. So right now we're in a considering stage, and from listening to these people in Orient and listening to yourself, the people of Orient are concerned with the future of Hallocks Bay, which I can't blame them, because the track record in the rest of the Town is not that great, and you want to get your boats in. So it seems to me that they're not probably against your project, but they want to go small, they want to go easy, and I think they just want it enough so you can get by and they don't want to restrict your boat, but they want to keep the project small and I think if we restrict the size of the boat that you have in there now, and I think a plan could be made out from the most of the rest of these people and yourself. MR. DACIMO: We are willing to work with the proper individuals to do that, certainly. We live in the house that's on that property, and I don't want to see, you know, 35 and 40 foot cruisers with heads come in there. I love to fish, I love to duck hunt, I like to shellfish, I enjoy .. ah..you know, the whole attraction to us buying that marina was exactly the thing we don't,., we want to continue to enjoy those things, ok. Because we live on the property, it's not like, maybe, smaller operations where business, fulltime business and, you know, we don't really see it they way. HENRY SMITH: I agree, but I think that, I have a feeling that, you know, between you and the residents of Orient and ourselves that something, eventually, can be worked out on this. MR. DACIMO: I guess I would want to co~.ent that the ..ah..from the marker that's out there to the marina, if that can't be dredged, there's no sense in doing anything. HENRY SMITH: But, you know, the people of Orient, I mean, you know, they., a couple of years ago the State, I think they came to us and they wanted to apply for a pezmit to dredge in Pete Neck. They weren't going to do it, they just wanted to apply for the permit, so if they ever needed it or anything like that. Well, these people shot them right down, and you know, which is their prerogative to do, but you know, they want to go very lightly here and they're scared. I don't blame them because the State is buying land in there, taking land over, and the State owns all that park property, and there's no telling what the hell the State will do some day. They are liable to make a State marina in there or something or try to or do something like that. You know, these people are very concerned, so I think that the .. they will work with you, but let's keep it really down to the bare minimum MR. DACIMO: As owners of the business, we'll certainly provide the necessary assurances to the people that what I'm saying I want to do is all we will do. HENRY SMITH: Right, I'm sure most of these people here are your friends in Orient. I mean and they just, you know..so Board of Town Trustees 22 MR. DACIMO: We're willing to do whatever it takes to provide that, those assurances, whatever policy or whatever it takes to do that. HENRY SMITH: Right, but, you know, I think, after this meeting is over you should talk to these people and see how you can scale down this project so you can live with it and they can live with it. Then you come back to us with an application, I think there'll be no problem with it. But right now, I think you have to talk to the baymen and residents of Orient and things like that to get the project so... JOH~ TUTHILL: If you want to start a little meeting like that with some of the people that work around there and everything, I'm also from Orient, I'll be glad to sit in there with you and see what we can work out because we still don't want to mess up Hallocks Bay. MR. DACIMO: Nor do we want to see Hallocks Bay messed up. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Ok MERLON WIGGIN: We'll take that off..we've been doing that, working with the Orient people.. HENRY SMITH: But I think the biggest thing with the residents of Orient, there was a lot of mis-information going around, and I think once the people get the right information, why, you know, there'll be something that can be worked out. JOHN BREDEMEYER: OK, anyone else to speak on this? OK, if there's no other co~ents on this, I'm going to ask that we go into about a 5-minute recess. HENRY SMITH: Sounds good to me. AL KRUPKSI: I'll second that. MEETING IS RECESSED. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Will you take the minutes in the absence of the Clerk? We're going to move three items. JOHN TUTHILL: You're talking to me? JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes, you're alternate clerk, if you just take the minutes on this. These are three items with respect to the critical environmental areas. The first one is to amend the designation to read the entirety of all named creeks and Arshamomaque Pond to the north of State Route 25. The amendment is to mean Arshamomaque Pond should be north of State Route 25. All right, the reason for this is the designations where we've had highways in the past, we've designated north of the intersecting road. We did that down at Kimogener Point, as you recall. May I have a resolution on that? JOHN BEDNOSKI: So moved. AL KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES JOHN BREDEMEYER: The second one is to include all of Deep Hole Creek inclusive of all tributaries north of New Suffolk Avenue and east of Meadow Lane (At last month's meeting the tributary, which was off Meadow Lane, had been omitted when maps were drawn). HENRY SMITH: So moved. Board of Town Trustees 23 AL KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES JOHN BREDEMEYER: The final item, Jane, is getting a formal resolution that is in the same form that we sent up the last two times we did designations. While we are waiting, let's go back to the public hearing items and let's move with votes on the various items. A vote in the matter of the application of John H. Geideman in behalf of GRANT H. LENNOX, Knoll Circle for wetland permit. Is there a motion? HENRY SMITH: I make a motion that we approve this application with alternate # 2. AL KRUPSKI: I second that. ALL AYES. JOHN BREDEMEYER: The vote in the matter of the application of J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of PETER BAVARO, Lupton Point Road property adjacent to Deep Hole Creek. Do I hear a motion on this? HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we approve. AL KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES. JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Jay, could I just interrupt for a second? Early on, A1 had said something about buffers on some of these. You mentioned it on the first one, I think. I mentioned it on a couple of the others. I know you're just voting for it, but I think that should be included, and as I say, at our meeting the other day, I think it should be a standard fo£m for all your applications. AL KRUPSKI: You're right. JOHN HOLZAPFEL: You know, automatic vegetative, native vegetative buffer. AL KRUPSKI: I think in this case we might be at a disadvantage, since we already had the public hearing. We failed to discuss it with him. JOHN HOLZAPFEL: I understand that. AL KRUPSKI: And you're right. I thought of it afterwards. JOHN BREDEMEYER: I think we discussed it at the meeting with the CAC. Let's develop a guideline on that and attach it. JOHN BREDEMEYER: In the matter of the application of JOHN AND NANCY PEARSON South Harbor Road, Southold. Vote of the Board? HENRY SMITH: I'll make a motion to approve. AL KRUPSKI: I'll second it. ALL AYES. JOHN BREDEMEYER: In the matter of the application of En-Consultants in behalf of ROBERT BARRY, ESQ., West Shore Drive, Southold. HENRY SMITH: So moved. AL KRUPSKI: I think on this one we could have the opportunity to say: at the second cut, the lower section not to be sodded or Board of Town Trustees 24 planted with any material requiring fertilizer. The top one can be, because you have the buffer of the bottom one. JOHN BEDNOSKI: Second. ALL AYES. JOHN BREDEMEYER: In the matter of the application of Proper-T Services in behalf of JOHN F. O'GRADY , West Cove Road, Cutchogue. ALBERT KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to approve this. Now, do you think a condition is necessary on this one to provide a planting, a vegetative planting or not? HENRY SMITH: Who's going to cut this back by ten feet, too, I believe. AL KRUPSKI: The bank is coming down, but I, because you have the bank there, no marsh in front of it, I don't think it's really necessary on this one. I won't make any special conditions on this, I just make a motion to approve as written. HENRY SMITH: I'll second it. ALL AYES. JOHN BREDEMEYER: On the agenda we're back on to adopt a formal resolution with respect to critical environmental area designations of which were subject to public hearing at last month's meeting, and the following resolution will be forwarded to the State Department of Environmental Conservation. All involved agencies, including the County Health Department, the State Department of State, Corps of Engineers, the Town Board, Clerk and , Planning ,ZBA and Building Department. The resolution reads as follows: WHEREAS, the Southold Town Trustees have held public hearing pursuant to 617.4 (J) 1 thru 4, of the State Environmental Quality Review Act, and WHEREAS, the Southold Town Trustees ownership of Trustee land is to manage such properties in the beneficial public interest, and WHEREAS, our public trust and historic role as Pantenteesis strengthened by the State Environmental Quality Review Act and our ability to protect environmentally sensitive areas, NOW, THEREFORE BE IT KNOWN that Southold Town Trustees approve, ratify, and confirm Critical Area Designation (CEAs) pursuant to the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) (Part 617.4 J 1-4 NYCRR) for all Trustee Lands below mean high water in the following creeks or portions of the creeks by State Department of Transportation Map designations hereto annexed. Such designations shall in no way affect the largely ministerial function of issuing permits or renewal permits for boat moorings on or over Town bottom nor effect the usual or ordinary activities of aquaculture, fishing, hunting, navigation, and mariculture, provided such activities are lawful, and structures installed for said purposes are temporary (less than on year) in nature. The foregoing shall become effective thirty (30) days after filing in the Office of the Commissioner of the New York State DEC pursuant to SEQRA. Board of Town Trustees 25 Listing of Critical Environmental Areas, in addition to those which are already in the Town, I might add, are: Brushs Creek, Cedar Beach Creek, Corey Creek, Deep Hole Creek, Goldsmith's Inlet, Halls Creek, Goose Creek, Little Creek, Mill Creek (Arshamomaque Pond, north of State Route 25), and Pipe's Cove Creek. This is inclusive of the amendment voted on prior. Do I have a vote of the Board on this formal resolution to be sent forth? HENRY SMITH: So moved. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES. OUT OF ORDER FROM AGENDA IX. GRANDFATHER APPLICATION: 1. DORIS AND WILLIAM BRASBY request permit for existing bulkhead on their property located on 650 Blue Marlin Drive, Southold, NY. HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we approve. JOHN BEDNOSKI: Second. ALL AYES. X. WAIVERS: 1. DANIEL SHYBUNKO requests waiver to complete 15' of driveway that lies in Trustee jurisdiction, corner of Tepee and Wampum Way, Southold, NY. Henry Smith, who inspected site, saw no problems. Mr. Morris spoke in opposition. John Holzapfel commented for CAC. Jean Dean, also commented. After a discussion the Trustees decided to table this application for a waiver until the Trustees as a Board can inspect the project. A motion by ALBERT KRUPSKI to table, seconded by HENRY SMITH ALL AYES. ROY HAJE spoke briefly about the RICHARD ZIEDLER application which is listed under ASSESSMENTS. He presented the Board with a modification of the project (bulkhead). The Board expressed its views and will make a detezmination when the meeting continues under Assessments/Declarations. VII. ASSESSMENTS/ENVIRONMENTAL DECLARATIONS: 1. Robert Kassner in behalf of NUNNAKOMA WATERS ASSOCIATION, INC. to dredge approximately 1500 c.y. of material to be hydraulically removed and pumped to adjacent beach as nourisP~ent. Location of project is Corey Creek at the southerly end of Wampum Way, Southold, NY. CAC had no problem with this project. HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we negative dec this application. JOHN BREDEMEYER: I'll second that. Board of Town Trustees 26 AYES: TRUSTEES Smith, Krupski, Bednoski, and Bredemeyer. ABSTENTION: TRUSTEE Tuthill. 2. John Geideman in behalf of ROBERT KOEBELE to add a 4' x 18' float to an existing 18' x 16' float with one additional pile. Property is located on Gull Pond at 1525 Gull Pond Lane, Greenport,NY. JOHN BREDEMEYER: I move a negative declaration on this application. HENRY SMITH: I'll second it. ALL AYES. 3. CARL VAIL to construct a bulkhead behind existing rock revetment and fence. Property located on Wells Road, Southold, NY on Jockey Creek. HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we do not entertain this application. (because of violation) AL KRUPSKI: Second. DISCUSSION FOLLOWED Vote of the Board: AYES: TRUSTEES, Smith, Krupski, Bednoski, Bredemeyer. ABSTAINED: TRUSTEE Tuthill. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ALBERT KRUPSKI made a motion to return application along with the $150.00 fee, seconded by JOHlq BEDNOSKI. Vote of the Board: As above. MORE DISCUSSION JOHN BEDNOSKI: I make a motion to follow original application or existing permit. HENRY SMITH seconded this motion. AYES: Trustees Bredemeyer, Smith, Krupski, and Bednoski NAY: Trustee Tuthill. 4. GRANT H. LENNOX (under hearings) 5. Joseph Perricone to construct a timber dock consisting of a 4' x 15' elevated (4' above grade of marsh) walkway, 4' x 14' hinged ramp, (2) 6' x 12' floats secured by (4) iron pipes. Project located on Goose Creek at 2060 Clearview Avenue, Southold, NY. HENRY SMITH made a motion to give this project a Negative Declaration, seconded by JOHN BEDNOSKI. ALL AYES. 6. En-Consultants in behalf of EDWARD DEUTSCH to construct a timber retaining wall at or above the line of MHW. Backfill with 15+ c.y. of clean sand and loam to be trucked in. Wall will be built only along north side where shoreline is receding; construct a 4' x 6' x 20' float secured by (@) 8" pilings. Board of Town Trustees 27 Property fronts Boat Basin off South Bay at Briar Lane, Southold, NY. ALBERT KRUPSKI made a motion to give this a Negative Dec, seconded by HENRY SMITH. ALL AYES 7. Proper-T Service in behalf of CONSTANTINOS MARKOTSI$ to replace 90 linear feet of bulkhead with new bulkhead 18" to seaward of old bulkhead; extend bulkhead 20'+; relocate walkway, ramp, and floating dock at new bulkhead; dredge area around floating dock to approximately 3' at low water. Project located on Canal off Corey Creek at Williamsburg Road (private), Southold, NY. The Trustees felt that the the project that would go only to the length of the existing bulkhead, would be environmentally a negative declaration, whereas if the bulkheading went up to the end of the creek, it might be undermining the natural vegetation, and they would like it stopped where it was. Mr. Fitzgerald suggested a return. JOHN BREDEMEYER made a motion to table this project until a new sketch was presented to the Board showing the return at the north end. It is also to be in kind/in place. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES. 8. En-Consultants, Inc. in behalf of ERIKA SWIMMER to construct a single family dwelling, sanitary system with retaining wall, well and bluestone (or similar pervious) driveway. Approximately 300 c.y. of clean fill to be trucked in to raise grade (as shown). Property is located at Orchard Lane, Southold, NY fronting Sandpiper Basin. ALBERT KRUPSKI moved to table this project until the Board had CAC co~u,ents and Health Department approval of the septic system, seconded by JOHN BEDNOSKI. ALL AYES. 9. En-Consultants, Inc. in behalf of DAVID WINLKER to construct a timber dock consisting of a 4' x 130' fixed elevated (4' above grade of marsh) walk; a 4' x 12' ramp; a 6' x 20' float secured by (2) 8" spilings. Project located on Eugenes Creek at Beebe Drive, Cutchogue, NY. JOH~ BEDNOSKI made a motion to give this project a Negative Declaration, seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI. ALL AYES. 10. En-Consultants, Inc. in behalf of SUSAN KWIT En-Consultants, Inc. in behalf of WILLIAM WICKHAM, and En-Consultants, Inc. in behalf of JOHN LOCKWOOD; (done as a group) for bulkhead replacements: KWIT to replace with 18" 54 1.f. of timber bulkhead with approximately 5 c.y. of backfill to be trucked in. WICKHAM to remove and replace in same location and configuration 43 1.f. of bulkhead; dredge up to 20' in front to maximum depth of 4' BMLW. Approximately 25 c.y. of spoil will be removed and used for backfill. LOCKWOOD to remove and replace in same location and configuration 39 1.f. of bulkhead; dredge up to 20' in front to maximum depth of 4' BMLW. Approximately 10 c.y. of spoil to Board of Town Trustees 28 be removed and used for backfill. The three (3) projects are located on Harbor Road, New Suffolk, NY, fronting School House Creek. After some discussion, and hearing co~.~,ents from Catherine Tuthill, who is owner of the creek bottom, JOHN TUTHILL moved to a declare Negative Declarations on these three (3) projects, seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI. ALL AYES. 13. En-Consultants, Inc. in behalf of RICHARD ZIEDLER to construct a 49' bulkhead plus a 6' return on north side. Proposed bulkhead will extend from end of existing bulkhead north, generally along MHW to meet existing rip rap; dredge an area up to 15' off bulkhead to maximum depth of 4' BMLW. Approximately 50 c.y. of spoil, which eroded from upland and hinders navigation will be placed behind new bulkhead for backfill. Property fronts Brushs Creek on unnamed road off McDonald Road, Laurel, NY. HENRY SMITH made a motion to table this project because it is in violation of the eye view easement, seconded by JOHN BEDNOSKI. ALL AYES. 14. HAY HARBOR CLUB, Fishers Island requests to replace bulkhead; replace building (bath cabana). The building will be replaced in place and the bulkhead may be exempt. HENRY SMITH moved to Neg Dec the project, seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI. ALL AYES. 15. NARROW RIVER MARINA request to dredge as per amended plan. After much discussion, and with many questions still pending,... JOHN BREDEMEYER called for a brief recess. No vote. IV. AMENDMENTS/CHANGES continued: 3. MICHAEL J. PERLMUTTER requests amendment to permit #1989. The proposed new addition will consist of a ramp attached to the existing bulkhead, and projecting over the wetlands in such a way as not to disturb them. The unattached end of the ramp will float freely with the tide. Property is located on Mudd Creek at 5590 Skunk Lane, Cutchoque, NY. ALBERT KRUPSKI made a motion to approve, seconded by JOHN BEDNOSKI. ALL AYES. 4. Costello Marine in behalf of JOHN VASSIL requests amendment to extend his existing 6' x 24' floating dock 10' (total 6' x 34') and raise the float 2' Property fronts James Creek at Salt Lake Lane, Mattituck, NY. ALBERT KRUPSKI: I make a motion to approve that. JOHN TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES. V. LEAD AGENCY DECLARATIONS: Board of Town Trustees 29 1.Declare Lead Agency on Narrow River: JOHN BREDEMEYER: I move to declare Lead Agency on Narrow River Marina. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES. VIII.RESOLUTIONS: 1. Authorization for Henry Smith to sign checks in the absence of John Bredemeyer: JOHN TUTHILL moved that Henry be given this authority, seconded by JOHN BEDNOSKI. AYES: Trustees, BREDEMEYER, KRUPSKI, BEDNOSKI, & TUTHILL. ABSTAINED: TRUSTEE SMITH. 2. PURCHASE A RECORDERFORTHETRUSTEE DEPAR~MElqT: HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we purchase a recorder for the Trustee Department. ( a Linear dictating machine to handle the transcribing of minutes of meetings) JOH~ BEDNOSKI seconded this motion. ALL AYES. 3. YOUNGS MARINA to maintenance dredge approximately 100 c.y. and extend existing sheet steel bulkhead 45' to prevent further erosion. JOHN BREDEMEYER: This is from the last meeting. We have received additional documentation that the project is taking place on private property. I have a resolution I'd like to read in support of it. This is for the maintenance dredging and I'll try to go slowly so it can be entered on the record. I would make this in the form of a motion: WHEREAS, the maintenance dredging was approved by the Army Corps of Engineers at 20 x 200 feet after thorough review; WHEREAS, the Trustees believe the current application does not encroach on private lands of others based on the map provided; WHEREAS, the title of lands upon which a Trustee permit is issued are a matter between the private parties, should it come to a question in a future date; WHEREAS, The New York State DEC has made a cautioned review and approved the dredging project which was before it; WHEREAS, the project has met the consistency requirement of the New York Department of State; WHEREAS, improved access will benefit many land owners in the basin; WHEREAS, the Marina in question, had been a good neighbor and a non-pollutor as evidenced by the satisfactory surface water quality at the NfS Shellfish Station, located at the entrance to Sage Basin; WHEREAS, the project is part of the larger Youngs Marina expansion, helps maintain access and consistent depth with the parent body of water, Peconic Bay; WHEREAS, the original permit that was considered by the Army Corps was pre-town SEQRA implementation and; Board of Town Trustees 30 WHEREAS, this project is thusly grandfathered and; WHEREAS, this project is considered a minimal impact project of approximately 100 c.y. of maintenance dredging; THEREFORE, be it RESOLVED that the Southold Town Trustees approve the project with the following requirements: 1. That the Bay Constable take sounding once a day while the project is under construction, to ascertain compliance with the permit and file a written report daily with the Trustee Office. 2. That the inspection fee shall be billed at $35.00 per inspection, with a minimum of four (4) required. 3. That a final survey shall be prepared by a licensed marine surveyor to establish compliance with the project and submitted within ninety (90) days of completion of the dredging. I would move that. NO FURTHER COMMENTS ACCEPTED FROM THE AUDIENCE, ONLY FROM BOARD MEMBERS. HENRY SMITH: What's with this with the Bay Constable checking the ... JOHN BREDEMEYER: I want to insure that there's compliance with the dredging requirements. This is a specific inspectional requirement. Normally, we have one inspection, but I think since it was called into question at the public hearing, that compliance is particularly important. AFTER ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, it was determined to delete the section on Bay Constables making inspections (Nos. 1 & 2 above), and JOHN BRRDEMEYER withdrew this seyment from his motion. HENRY SMITH: I'll second it. ALL AYES. 4. YOUNGS MARINA EXPANSION PROJECT: JOHN BREDEMEYER: We have been requested tc reconsider the prior vote of the Board to deny renewal, and just to start with, I'm going to enter into a resolution right now that is going to endorse an extension; a reconsideration and an extension of the permit for one year, which is Trustee Policy, and that year to run at such point as the current permit expires. WHEREAS, The Trustee Board and members participated in numerous meetings with concerned citizens, government agencies and issued a Negative Declaration after thorough review and; WHEREAS, the Trustee members are familiar with this project and; WHEREAS, this project was approved pre-County CEA designation and; WHEREAS, no County agency is currently involved in this project approval; WHEREAS, the project will improve environmental conditions in the basin by installing intercepting drains to restrict surface runoff into the basin and; Board of Town Trustees 31 WHEREAS, an existing sanitary leaching pool will be located away from the basin, and sanitary facilities will be installed for vessels at the Marina and; WHEREAS, special woods and materials are to be employed which will not contain CCA, deritive products, arsenic or copper and; WHEREAS, a polyethylene float system will be employed which will help maintain circulation in the basin; I WOULD HEREFORE MOVE, that the Board of Trustees extend, for one year, the project known as the Youngs Marina Expansion Project, which was previously approved by the Board. JOHN TUTHILL: Second. AYES: Trustees Bredemeyer, Smith, Bednoski, and Tuthill. ABSTAINED: Trustee Krupski. 5. Approval of John Bredemeyer's expenses for traveling to Fishers Island: JOHN BEDNOSKI moved to approve, seconded by HENRY SMITH. AYES: Trustees Smith, Bednoski, Krupski and Tuthill. ABSTAINED: Trustee Bredemeyer. X. WAIVERS (continued) 2. John Bertani in behalf of CAROL ANN STANCS requests a waiver to renovate existing structure and to extend the deck from 8' to 12' on the water side. HENRY SMITH made a motion to grant the waiver, seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI. ALL AYES. 3. Henry Raynor in behalf of CARR/WANAT requests a waiver of permit for property located on Bergen Avenue, Mattituck, NY. JOHN BREDEMEYER: We requested the CAC to look at this, since we didn't get a chance to look at it. It's a proposed subdivision and we don't know what's there, so I would move that we table it, subject to further review for existence of wetlands. JOHN TUTHILL: Second. ALL AYES. 4. PETER BAVARO requests a waiver to construct and extension to existing house on property adjacent to Deep Hole Creek at Lupton Point Road, Mattituck, NY. ALBERT KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to grant that waiver. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Second. ALL AYES. 5. Wickham, Wickham, & Bressler in behalf of HARRIET SPILLMAN request waiver/letter of non-jurisdiction to construct an addition to an existing dwelling on property located at West Creek Avenue, Cutchogue, NY. ALBERT KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion we grant the waiver. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Second. ALL AYES. XI. MOORINGS: Approval of February mooring renewals: Board of Town Trustees 32 HENRY SMITH: I make a motion we approve. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Second. ALL AYES. 1. JAMES BOGDEN requests an on-shore mooring on Hallocks Bay/Narrow River. JOHN BPV~EMEYER: Stake number 27 is open in Hallocks Bay. move to approve. ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second. ALL AYES. I 2.GORDEN HEINS requests and off-shore mooring in Gull Pond. JOHN TUTHILL made a motion to approve, subject to its replacing an existing mooring, seconded by ~T.BERT KRUPSKI. ALL AYES. 3. BARBARA BRUCH requests an off-shore mooring permit in Arshamomoque. JOHN TUTHILL: I'll make a motion to approve. JOHN BREDEMEYER: I'll second that. ALL AYES. 4. Moore & Moore in behalf of RENATO STARCIC request a mooring permit in Jockey Creek, R.O.W. off Oaklawn Avenue, Southold, NY. (Tabled from last month) HENRY SMITH: We'll have to table this one more month, because I looked at it today, and I don't see where there is sufficient room where the "X" is marked on that piece of property. I would make a motion that this thing be Tabled where he would have to show a temporary marker of the on-shore stake, of the off-shore stake, and where his mooring is going to be. JOHN BREDEMEYER: I'll second that. ALL AYES. 5. VALERIE DORAN requests a mooring permit for 31' inboard in Town Creek, Southold, NY. HENRY SMITH: I looked at that one, also; there's no problem with that. The only stipulation I would have is that it require a "For & Aft"anchor. JOHN BREDEMEYER: Second. ALL AYES. RESOLUTION: 1.RESOLVED, to adopt the Type 2 SEQRA List for SEQRA coordination, and to adopt a policy that when the Board doesn't hear from the DEC (within 30 days) that we automatically assume the Lead as a standing resolution. Motion was made by JOHN BREDEMEYER, seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI. ALL AYES. UNFINISHED BUSINESS FROM WORKSESSION: DISCUSSION regarding Dr. Hansen as Consultant for the Trustees was held. BOARD felt that the Town Board should advertise for this position and accept resumes. Board of Town Trustees 33 AL KRUPSKI read letter regarding definition of a farmer. HENRY SMITH brought up the FAKIRIS application, short discussion followed. AT 11:00 PM, JOHN BEDNOSKI moved to adjourn the meeting, seconded by HENRY SMITH. ALL AYES. Re~ctfull~;submitted, e Blados, Clerk !,£ECEIVED AND FILED BY THE SOUTHOLD TOWN Cr.k':P~K Town Clerk, Town of Southold