HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-04/25/1990 TRUSTEES
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President
Henry P. Smith, Vice President
Albert J. Krupski, Jr.
John L. Bednoski, Jr.
John B. Tuthill
Telephone (516) 765-1892
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
SCOTF L. HARRIS
Supervisor
Town Hall, 53095 Main Road
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971
Fax (516) 765-1823
Telephone (516) 765-1800
MINUTES
APRIL 25, 1990
PRESENT WERE:
ABSENT:
John M. Bredemeyer, III, President
Henry P. Smith, Vice President
Albert J. Krupski, Jr., Trustee
John B. Tuthill, Trustee
Jill Thorp, Clerk
John L. Bednoski, Jr., Trustee
Worksession: 6:00 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by JOHN TUTHILL
to approve the minutes of December 21, 1989, January 25, 1990
and February 22, 1990.
NEXT TRUSTEE BOARD MEETING: May 24, 1990 - 7 p.m.
Worksession - 6 p.m.
NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: May 17, 1990 - 10 a.m.
MONTHLY REPORT:
Trustees' monthly report for March: A check for $4,478.09
forwarded to the Supervisor's Office.
II.
PUBLIC NOTICES:
Public notices are posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin
Board for review.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to recess the regular meeting to go into the public hearings.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Board of Trustees 2 April 25, 1990
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MATTER OF THE FOLLOWING
APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE OF THE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM ~
SUFFOLK TIMES AND AN AFFIDAVIT OF PUBLICATION FROM THE LONG
ISLAND TRAVELER-WATCHMAN. PERTINENT CORRESPONDENCE MAY BE READ
PRIOR TO ASKING FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS ORGANIZED AND BRIEF, 5 MINUTES OR
LESS, IF POSSIBLE.
JOHlg BREDEMEYER:
7:13 P.M. - In the matter of Gardiners Bay Estates
Homeowners Association to construct 115' bulkhead with a 4'
wide elevated catwalk; dredge an area approximately 6' seaward
of the catwalk to 3' BMLW, removing approximately 40 c.y. of
material, which will be disposed at an upland location and
retained from reentering the waterway. The project is located on
Spring Pond, East Marion.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on behalf of this
application?
MR. MATZEN: Anything you want to know about it.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The Trustees have completed a fairly extensive
review of the project. It is a bulkhead of a low impact type,
which will allow nourishment of wetlands behind it. The
applicant has completed a process with the DEC and the Army
Corp. We find ourselves in a position now to issue a permit
ourselves. Does any member of the Board have any questions?
Does the CAC have any comments?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Let me see the file? The bulkhead then is to
be right here? This has been so long ago. Is that correct?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: This application was left at the fo~m that we
conducted a neg. dec. on it and had no problem with it. It is
in front of the vegetated wetland line. It is essentially in
the same location as what is there. Lets see what we got in the
file.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: O.K. It is the same. It wouldn't make sense to
issue a permit contrary to the DEC permit.
MR. MATZEN: The measurements are exactly the same.
JOHN BRED~: It is exactly the same as what we had. No
change from when we did a neg. dec. It took quite a long time
to get the DEC permit. Wasn't that the hold up on this?
MR. MATZEN: They lost all our papers after three years of
work. That is why it has taken three years.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Is there anyone here who wishes to speak
against this application. O.K. There being no comments against
the application, I will take a motion to close the hearing.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by JOHN BRRDEMEYER
to close the public hearing.
ALL AYES
JOHN BREDEMEYER:
7:15 p.m. - In the matter of the application of En-Consultants
in behalf of Antonio Perez/ Ann Branch Williams to construct
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a one-family dwelling, pool, deck, sanitary system well,
bluestone (or similar pervious) driveway. Approximately 500
c.y. of clean fill to be trucked into raise grades. This
project is on a ROW off the Main Road, Orient, fronting Long
Island Sound. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak on
behalf of the application?
ROY HAJE: Roy Haje, En-Consultants, on behalf of the
applicants - Perez and Williams. I received the March 29th
letter from you. Those conditions here are generally acceptable.
If you could just give me a little bit more detail.
Specifically about item 4.
JOHN B~RDEMEYER: Let me read the letter that we sent to you and
that way I will bring the Board up to date on this.
The Trustees issued a Conditioned Negative Declaration on the
above-referenced project.
The following conditions are to be met:
1. Create marsh by removing the old road.
2. Proposed drive to have haybales.
3. Place one (1) 18" culvert under driveway.
4. Create a 30' buffer to elevation (6' on survey).
5. Submit a new plan showing the above.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: This is by the old Main Road in Orient?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes. Up on the north side. The buffer zone, I
think, should have been and/or the 6' elevation. I think when we
did the field survey, it was felt that the contours were fairly
representative of the wetland boundary. We wanted a thirty foot
buffer from the 6' contour. I am sorry, that is rather vague.
In other words we want thirty feet landward of that. We use the
6' buffer as a general guideline, so you will be talking about
half the distance between the 6' contour and the back of the
house or front of the house.
ROY HAJE: 30' beyond the 6'?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That is correct. Does that create a problem?
We want to leave native vegetation there as a filter, if
possible.
ROY HAJE: What would be the restriction within that area. You
could do nothing what so ever?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: What would the applicant wish to do there?
ROY HAJE: I don't know. Perhaps nothing.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: There is no high vegetation that would restrict
a view from a house, I don't believe. That is usually what an
applicant would wish to do, is get the view. I don't think
there is anything besides Grounsel there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: This is Phraymites and then you got Catbrier
and wild blackberry. There is briers and a lot of dense
over-growth.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: That provides and nice natural buffer. I don't...
JOHN BREDEMEYER: In the past when the Board has requested this
kind of buffer activity to be left natural it is a condition of
the standing permit. We have not had a problem with an
individual wanting to come in at a subsequent date and put a
natural low vegetation planting in where they might use pine
bark or wood chips as mulch and want to bring some more
desirable indigenous plants in. I don't thing it stands as a
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prohibition against further activity. If that was the case we
would be asking for a restrictive covenant against further
activity.
ROY HAJE: O.K. That sounds O.K. That was my concern in case
they or somebody in the future wanted to replace that with
something more desirable and get those briers out of there.
JOH~ BREDEMEYER: It is very hard kind of a cover with little
feeding value for wild life. It is a good filter, but I think
the Board would look at any reasonable kind of a alternate plan.
ROY HAJE: O.K. That sounds O.K. then and that would be
acceptable.
JOHN BREDE~EYER: O.K. Is there anyone else who has any co~u,ents
with respect to the application? Mr. Loucka?
MR. LOUCKA: Loucka, C.A.C. We looked at this back in December
and from what I gather there has been some changes made with
this. The original application of what we had in December, the
C.A.C. disapproved the...
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Right.
MR. LOUCKA: As the driveway goes through the fresh water
wetlands, we where concerned about the septic system, the height
and the nearest to it. I don't know if any of those have been
addressed.
JOHN BRRDEMEYER: Yes. We reviewed all the items at the last
meeting when we issued the conditioned negative dec. The ground
water flows in the area are all towards the Sound that are
worse. Because of the elevation. Although the surface
elevations are such that you would be discharging surface water
back to the pond. The base ground water flow is to the north.
The pond more then likely, it is ground water flow but it is
still going to be away just through the native hydrology there.
The Board felt that mitigation measure of removing the old road,
which is further to the east, will benefit the pond by making it
a little deeper and providing for a natural habitat that would
allow possibly for amphibians or other to re-colonize the area
where there aren't depths and that.., essentially what we have
is a in kind wetland creation by removing that old road. Do you
remember the survey?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Plus this area here...that is all sodded isn't
it.
JOHN BRRDEMEYER: The actual edge, yea. The neighbor is over on
this property a little bit so the actual...there is a clump of
cattails in the corner here that is going to be involved some
what. The road actually, about half of it is sodded lawn from
the neighbor. We still wanted...we required a culvert pipe
because we are thinking that it may return to native vegetation
on that side with recurrent flooding. The hope was to not alter
the flow and that imbalance...this was where the existing road
terminates and the way we don't cut any additional. That
right-of-way will never be built on. It will stay open.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Instead of isolating that you kind of create a
larger area.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Those basically those are the issues that we
looked at when we discussed the condition of the way. O.K. the
survey date, now we had issued those stipulations on the
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conditioned negative declaration. We will need a survey
confirming that before the office could issue a permit if it is
favorably voted on. That was another condition.
ROY HAJE: Showing the four items...
JOHlq BREDEMEYER: Yea, as listed in the co~,uunication. Since it
seems agreeable with your client. Is there anyone here who
wishes to speak additionally on this application. O.K. There
being no comments, it is now 7:24, I will take a motion to close
the hearing.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by JOHN TU~4ILL
to close the public hearing.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Next application is in the matter of the
application of En-Consultants in behalf of Erika Swimmer,
revised plan of April 9, 1990, to construct a single family
dwelling, sanitary system, (revised location) with re~aining
wall, well and bluestone (or similar) driveway. Approximately
300 c.y. of fill to be trucked into raise grade. This project
is located on Orchard Lane, Southold. Sandpiper Basin. Is there
anyone here who wishes to speak on behalf of this application?
ROY HAJE: For the applicant, Roy Haje. I will just direct
your attention to a late amendment to that. The revision was
sent to you April 16, 1990 you have correctly identified the
latest revision and that is dated 4-9-90 on the survey. The one
you are looking at is the current one. The yardage needed to
fill according to that April 16th letter of mine is now 800
c.y. We have re-worked the proposal to satisfy the concerns of
the D.E.C. primarily in shifting things over down into that
corner as much as possible. Also, we have to take into account,
the present surrounding wells when siting our cesspools. That
again has necessitated the layout that you see here.
JOHN BRR~EMEYER: Was the change in fill largely a result of the
new plan?
ROY HAJE: Exactly.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: And that fill will be contained in that area,
there is like a semi circle drawn around the project, that fill
is going to be contained in that area? Maybe you could come up
and I can show you exactly what I mean.
JOH/q BREDEMEYER: So with the information of the C.A.C. members
they moved the sanitary away from the marsh, where it was
previously located.
MR. LOUCKA: Yes. It was over here and now it is over here.
MR. HOLZAPFEL: Is it elevated above the land now?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: It would be...I guess it is going to be 2'
above ground water. The sanitary system base elevation is 3.2'
and its base elevation is similar to that of the existing
grade. It is with a retaining wall. The County Health
Department had no objection to our taking Lead Agency. I take
this to mean that if there was serious problems they would have
communicated that they had a problem with their retaining wall
structure. They gave us key indication on lets say the
Connors job where a retaining wall wasn't going to work, they
didn't hesitate to co~,~,unicate to us that they had practical
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difficulties. They didn't indicate that here in their lead
agency communication.
MR. LOUCKA: All that fill is going in here then?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Probably most of it would be on the retaining
wall now?
ROY HAJE: In that area it will be behind the retaining wall in
that area.
JOH~ BREDEMEYER: We still have a practical problem although we
might...if we differed lead agency to the County Health
Department. They won't issue a permit until after the Trustees
have issued a permit. It is a catch 22 situation. Now we try
to rely on comments coming back on them. A1 sends them a letter
based on the Boards initial review and environmental assement
and then hopefully we get co~m,ents back from either the
engineering section or the office of ecology keying in as to
what they are looking for so we can continue to process.
MR. LOUCKA: We had one other question. Where the house was
staked, we get a different measurement to the...
ALBERT KRUPSKI: We also get different then that also. As far as
this measurement goes we wouldn't have jurisdiction.
JOHlq HOLZALPFEL: (Changed tape-in audible)
ROY HAJE: Above what?
JOHN HOLZALPFEL: The water table and on the contour line.
ROY HAJE: Two feet.
JOHN HOLZALPFEL: Where do they rest, on the bottom of the
cesspools?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The bottom of the cesspools are at grade.
ROY HAJE: They would be approximately 3-2.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: O.K. 3' above the water line.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: 3 and 2 is the actually grade but water level
is approximately a foot higher as a foot above sea level grade
at that point because you still flow fresh water out into the
creek.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: I will just make the co~,ent that I have argued
about this before and I think that this is just a dangerous
precedence and obviously it is a flood zone. In a big storm you
are going to have the cesspool right in the water. When you
have it that close to the ground water and that close to the
level of the bay, it is a dangerous precedence. I am just
mentioning it to you.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I know what you are saying. From the
hydrological stand point you have an interesting point. I mean
U.S. public health service would have us have the bottom of any
sanitary system try to have it four feet above grade and we know
from studies that you have better nitrogen removal. The higher
you can get...you know the more unsaturated and more oxygen you
can get there the better nitrogen removal you are going to
have. As a practical matter, these systems although they have
some faults had been, I guess, initiated at the County level
back in the early sixties or seventies to try to acco~m,odate as
much as possible; public health concerns and environmental
concerns and there is nothing perfect about them. The
alternatives are a composting type of a toilet and it seems at
Board of Trustees 7 April 25, 1990
the County level and the State DEC level they have not fully
embraced that this is the way to go.
JOHN TUTHILL: Is this a County regulation then, this two feet?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Two feet above ground water regulation for
special five pool sanitary systems to provide a sufficient
capacity, but sufficient treatment during regular functioning so
that you don't have direct discharge of sanitary waste into the
ground water.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: And yet the County hasn't stamped this yet.
They might alter this.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: It is extremely unlikely.
ROY HAJE: There is really no other alternative.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: There is no alternative given. They don't
approve of leaching fields. Everybody has there own idea of
what is appropriate, you know, I mean some people feel, you know
the hire you go, the better treatment you have. It is just not
an option. This is the only option. It is a question of
whether or not they meet the requirements of the retaining
walls. If it meets the engineer inspect. That is pretty much
cut and dry at this point.
JOHN HOLZAPFEL: Just to add..for my own thing, you know that is
at the very end and there is hardly any flushing down at that
end at all.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Fortunately, with clean sand and gravel the
coliform penetration usually isn't more then several feet beyond
the limits of the system from all the studies that have been
preformed. Obviously, under hydrologic loading, sure. I think
that is why you see the DEC now has special rain fall events
where if you have a three or four inch rain fall they will close
all areas to shellfishing. Any further corf~¢,ents?
JOHN TUTHILL: It seems to me that if this is a County regulation
that this is what you go by, isn't it?
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yea, we have no control. We can handle the
wetland aspects from our side. If the Board feels strongly
about the current level of sewage treatment and they have
feelings and they want to transmit sometime and have further
discussion, that is fine. But as far as the application before
us, we can't really do anything with this now. Any other
comments before us either in favor or against this application?
There being none, I will take motion to close the hearing.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by JOHN TUTHILL to
close the hearing.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The next application is in the matter of the
application of Proper-T Services in behalf of Agnes M.
Dunn to demolish existing house and construct a new house and
regrade property which is located on s/e corner of Queen street
and CR 48, Greenport. Is there anyone here who wishes to
speak on behalf the application?
JIM FITZGERALD: Jim Fitzgerald of Proper-T Services for
Mrs. Dunn, if there are any questions.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The C.A.C. was hoping to have the house a
little further from wetlands. I don't think the Trustees, in
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field inspection, saw a problem. It was all maintained a long
there when we where out there. Does anyone have any thoughts?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I would like to see the grading plan but as far
as we saw it was all maintained area. If you had the house ten
feet either way it wouldn't make a bit of difference as far as
effecting the wetland back there at all.
MR. LOUCKA: That culvert on the highway that goes through there,
I have not been there when we have had a lot of rain. I don't
know how much that backs up.
MR. BREDEMEYER: It does back up on occasion quite well because
we did have a lot of water on that lot down away from that.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: ...those slopes.
JOHN BREDEM~YER: Corner elevations?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: No.
JOH/q BREDEMEYER: It wasn't bad. It is served by public water
and public sewage.
MR. LOUCKA: That is the good thing about it.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: That is the only saving feature on it. If this
was...you would have no sewage treatment there without a
retaining wall for sure, if it had to go to private sewage
disposal. I think the applicant is trying to maintain a set
back off both streets.
MR. LOUCKA: I can see off the highway, but Queen Street they
could maybe bring it back a little bit. It doesn't go any where
other then the camp grounds.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: We thought about that. I don't know if that,you
know what that would serve there.
HENRY SMITH: I don't have a problem with the way it is an
application unit.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I am thinking about un-vegetated buffers or...
MR. LOUCKA: The lawn...
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Yea, the lawn just to get to the dump and then
it is swamp.
JOHN B~RDEMEYER: Does anyone else wish to speak on this
application? For or against? O.K. There being no co~u~,ent, I
will take a motion to...
HENRY SMITH: I make a motion to close the hearing on Agnes M.
Dunn.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN Bredemeyer: The time is now 7:37. The next hearing is in
the matter of the application of Gail Schlegel to
reconstruct existing single family dwelling and expand to 35' X
41' envelope with attached 12' X 24' timber deck and 6' X 12'
stairway; solid fill pier and boat ramp. That is an existing
solid fill pier. Is there anyone who wishes to speak on behalf
of the application?
CHUCK BOWMAN: Chuck Bowman, Land Use for Gail Schlegel. I
think we are all aware of the present condition of this
property. We have kind of looked at this as a water front
improvement project. Hopefully the Board views it the same
way.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Not if you like concrete.
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CHUCK BOWMAN: That is for sure. I think, importantly, we are
reducing the amount of lot coverage of impervious surface that
is there from 55% down to a no£mal 20%. Again, if there are any
questions, I will be happy to answer them.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Just one question. Can the client provide for
dry wells from the roof?
CHUCK BOWMAN: They certainly can. That is no problem.
JOPIN BREDEMEYER: This plan didn't change in form since we
originally had it, right?
CHUCK BOWMAN: Right.
JO~tN BREDEMEYER: Where do you stand with the DEC permit?
CHUCK BOWMAN: DEC, as you know, has not been doing inspection
out here just recently, but it is due to be inspected next
week. I have gone over the plan in the office with Chuck
Hamilton. They don't see any problem with it either.
JOH~ BREDEMEYER: So, they had no problem continuing the existing
filled pier.
CHUCK BOWMAN: Well, just the area.
JOHlq BREDEMEYER: Just what is existing. No problem, I was just
curious if they had voiced any concern. Any one else, any
comment? C.A.C.?
MR. LOUCKA: The C.A.C. has no objection to it. Our only concern
was on possible future runoff to be contained. Anything that is
done there is a great improvement.
CHUCK BOWMAN: I think the runoff, also once we rip up all the
concrete and plant the vegetation, will basically take care of
itself. We will be more then happy to put in dry wells for any
roof runoff.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. Any more questions, comments? There being
no further comments...
HENRY SMITH: I make a motion that we close the hearing of Gail
$chlegel.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The next hearing is in the matter of Edward
Deutsch to construct 215 1.f. of timber retaining wall at or
above the line of M~W. Backfill with 15+ c.y. of clean sand
and loam to be trucked in. Wall will be built only along side
where shoreline is receding; construct a 4' X 16' hinged ramp
secured to crest of bank by (2) 4' posts; and a 6' X 20' float
secured by (2) 8" diameter pilings.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: That float is around the corner from the
retaining wall? Correct?
ROY HAJE: Correct. It is in side on the basin.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: So this hasn't changed since we got the original
application?
ROY HAJE: No.
JOHlq BPRDEMEYER: Is there anyone here who wish to speak with
respect to this application? In favor of it.
ROY HAJE: Roy Haje for the applicant, Edward Deutsch. We
have discussed this in the past meetings. I don't know if I
could add anything. If you have any questions, I will try to
answer them for you.
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JOHN BREDEMEYER: Board members?
MEMBERS: No
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I don't think we have any questions. I don't
know. Does the C.A.C. have any questions? I know you had some
mixed feelings on the project. I think the Trustees did too,
but we could never quite...
MR. LOUCKA: Our only concern is the bulkheading. Is it a
bulkhead or is it a retaining wall? We feel maybe it is more of
a bulkhead then a retaining wall when the tide comes up there.
Is it really needed. How much has been lost by... you know what
is the need for it.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I am usually against retaining walls even when
they are not called bulkheads. This one I could see that there
was sort of a need there and that it is up far enough so that it
isn't a bulkhead. And just because there is no vegetation...and
they are only two where there is vegetation. Maybe we can put
something in that the applicant can try and vegetate in front
there. You know, take ...from there own property. I don't know
what kind of wave action is present there.
ROY HAJE: I think what would happen is that they probably would
get washed out because you get a pretty good wave action that
comes right in the basin which is what is causing the erosion.
I think if they could have taken and would have by spreading
from the point. I think the point is probably the furthest that
the vegetation can extend. The waves get dampened and...in
there.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Was there any consideration to a revetment at
all there? Or is it impractical?
ROY HAJE: A revetment I don't think is the best thing there
because it is very close. It is a narrow little canal which
they do periodically dredge. I think the possibility of
revetment on ravelling getting into the channel, is a real one.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: I could agree with that.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I would think so, yea.
JOHN BBRDEMEYER: Any comments against this project? There being
HENRY SMITH: I make the motion to close this hearing on Edward
Deutsch.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Motion with respect to these permits. Do you
want to take that now?
HENRY SMITH: I make a motion that we approve Gardiners Bay
Estates Home Owners Association to construct there bulkhead as
per application.
JOHN BR~EMEYER: I'll second that.
ALL AYES:
JOHN BREDEMEYER: In the matter of the application of Antonio
Perez/Williams, do I here a motion?
HENRY SMITH: I will make a motion to approve.
JOHN TUTHILL: Second.
ALL AYES.
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JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. We have a motion made and seconded. For a
point of discussion we wish to include the requirement that the
permit shall not be issued until we have a drawing in
confozmance with our letter. If that is acceptable, I would
request that that be added on.
BOARD: All AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: A motion made and seconded to be amended to
include the requirements as set forth in a letter (March 1990)
on a drawing. Vote of the Board?
ALL AYES:
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The next application of En-Consultants in
behalf of Erika Swimmer, with referenced to the revised plan,
first we will need to take a vote of the Board to amend the
application to change the amount of fill.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I make a motion to amend the application.
JOHN TUTHILL: Second.
HENRY SMITH: Eight hundred cubic yards?
ALBERT KRUPSKI: That is right.
HENRY SMITH: Your making the motion to amend it to 800' c.y.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Yes, as per the survey and attached letter.
HENRY SMITH: O.K.
ALL AYES
JOHN BREDEMEYER: Now a vote in the matter of the permit
application on the same application - Erika swimmer.
HENRY SMITH: I will make that motion.
JOHN TUTHILL: Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: The next application of Agnes M. Dunn to
demolish existing house and construct a new house at property in
Greenport.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I make a motion to approve the application.
JOHN TUTHILL: Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BRRDEMEYER: Next application in the matter of Gail
Schlegel to reconstruct an existing single family home
expanded 35' with repairs to timber deck and stair, solid filled
pier and boat ramp.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I will make a motion to... on the application
with the condition that there be dry wells and gutters to take
care of the roof runoff.
HENRY SMITH: I'll seconded.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: With respect to the application of Edward
Deutsch to construct timber retaining wall or bulkhead as it
may soon become and to construct a ramp and float on property in
Southold.
HENRY SMITH: I will make that motion to approve Edward Deutsch.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second.
ALL AYES.
Board of Trustees 12 April 25, 1990
JOHN BREDEMEYER: O.K. A motion to resume the regular meeting?
HENRY SMITH: So moved.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Second.
ALL AYES.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: AMENDMENTS/WAIVERS/CHANGES:
1. Vel~ko Krstulovic- Request extension on Permit #457
issued October 15, 1987 as amended to construct in kind and in
place 174' of timber bulkhead and returns and to backfill with
approximately 70 c.y. of clean sand to be trucked in from an
upland source. South Drive, Mattituck. Mattituck Creek.
After review of the file and seeing that the original permit was
issued February 24, 1988, a motion was made by HENRY SMITH and
seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI to approve the request for an
extension for one year from February 24, 1990 to February 24,
1991.
2. Paul Dinizio- Request for a waiver to fill 200 feet of
land owned by Flint Street Corp. Located at Rt 25, Greenport.
After discussion with the applicant, it was determined that the
applicant submit a full application to the Board. Paul
Dininzio(applicant) publicly withdrew his request for a waiver
and the $35.00 fee will be put towards the wetland permit fee.
3. William Mercurio- Request to amend permit %1730 to
extend the length of the floating dock to add 5' X 14'. Property
located at Bay Avenue, Mattituck.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to amend the permit for William Mercurio.
4. Richard Wright in behalf of Mr. & Mrs. Keegan - to
request a waiver to construct a deck and a screened in porch and
repair the existing deck. Property located 100 Beachwood
Avenue, Southold.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to grant a waiver for the project of Mr. & Mrs. Keegan.
JOHN BREDEMEYER: MOORINGS. Item %5, page 3.
1. JOSEPH HYDELL request a mooring in Goose Bay
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to approve the request to place a mooring in front of his house
on Goose Bay.
ALL AYES.
2. RUTH WELLS- Request for a mooring in James Creek.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by JOHN
BREDEMEYER to table this application until a map of James Creek
can be formulated.
ALL AYES.
3. PHILIP J. VAN BOURGONDIEN- Request for a mooring in Town
Creek.
Board of Trustees 13 April 25, 1990
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by JOH~ BPRDEMEYER
to approve the request to place a mooring in front of applicants
house.
ALL AYES.
4. EDWIN LATSON- Request for a mooring in Town Creek.
A motion was made by JOHN BREDEMEYER and seconded by ALBERT
KRUPSKI to approve this application.
ALL AYES.
5. JOSEPH WYSOCKI- Request for a mooring in Hallock's Bay
to place a pot to keep horseshoe crabs, which shall be used for
conch pots.
A motion was made by Ar.BERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to approve this application to be charged for the length of the
pot as if it was a rowboat. (16').
ALL AYES.
6. Robert Deroski- Request for mooring in Narrow River.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to approve this application subject to doing a survey of the
creek and Mr. Deroski giving up one mooring that he has
inanother creek.
ALL AYES.
7. GEORGE FRIES - Request for mooring in Gull Pond.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to table this application until after a survey can be done.
ALL AYES.
VI. COMMUNICATIONS: NONE.
VII LEAD AGENCY:
bulkhead
front of
mean low
and used
3/26/90.
1. Richard Zeidler- To construct 90 linear feet of timber
bulkhead extending northward from straight section of existing
fronting Brush's Creek. Dredge an area of 30' X 40' in
portion of proposed bulkhead to maximum depth 4' below
water. Approximately 45 c.y. of spoil will be removed
to backfill bulkhead for the bulkhead. Survey dated
A motion was made by JOHN TUTHILL and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to take lead agency.
ALL AYES.
2. J.M.O. Consulting in behalf of William Riley to
construct approx. 145' of timber bulkhead and to backfill
structure with approx. 20 c.y. of clean sand which shall be
trucked in from an upland source.
A motion was made by JOHN BREDEMEYER and seconded by ALBERT
KRUPSKI to take lead agency and request the clerk to send a copy
of the recent correspondence to the Bay Constable.
ALL AYES.
Board of Trustees 14 April 25, 1990
VIII. ASSESSMENTS/ENVIRONMEnTAL DECLARATIONS:
1. Martin Kosmynka- to construct timber dock consisting of
a 4' X 40' fixed elevated (4' above grade) walk; 3' X 15' hinged
ramp; (2) 6' X 16' floats secured by (4) 8" diameter pilings.
IN ADDITION, applicant intends to construct a one-family
dwelling, deck, sanitary system bluestone driveway, 150+ of
fill, all as shown on attached site plan. As this work appears
to be more than 75' from wetland, a letter of non-jurisdiction
is requested for this part of the project.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to declare a negative declaration.
ALL AYES.
2. Frank Vermaelen- To construct a single family dwelling
and sanitary system on a 40,000. s.f. lot. Location of project
is Bay Avenue, Mattituck. Board to declare negative declaration
effective February 22, 1990.
A motion was made by JO~N BREDEMEYER and seconded by ALBERT
KRUPSKI to declare a negative declaration.
ALL AYES.
~. Larry Tuthill in behalf of Carl E. Vail, Sr. to
construct bulkhead behind existing rock revetment and fence on
property located on Wells Road, Southold, on Jockey Creek.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to declare a negative declaration subject to a licensed survey,
showing elevations, contours, all structures and proposed
structure.
Just to mention that from the worksession, that the removal of
the pipe will be a condition of the approval.
ALL AYES
4. Land Use Company in behalf of Constantine P.
Geor~iopoulos to construct a single family dwelling,
sanitary system, fill and driveway adjacent to Freshwater
Wetland Area.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to declare a negative declaration.
ALL AYES.
5. James Malone¥- to construct a floating dock. 4' wide
stationary dock and ramp, 6' wide floating dock with a total of
80' Request for a mooring in Deep Hole Creek until the dock is
built. Property located on Bungalow Lane, Mattituck.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to declare a negative declaration.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to approve a mooring for one year.
ALL AYES.
6. J.M.O. Consulting on behalf of Harbor Lights Canal
Association to maintenance dredge a dredged canal to a depth of
-4' at MLW. Resultant spoil (approx. 4,000. c.y. of sand)
'Board of Trustees 15 April 25, 1990
shall be placed on adjacent beach above MAvW for beach
nourishment. Harbor Lights Cove - off Southold Bay Harbor
Lights Drive, Southold.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to declare a negative declaration.
ALL AYES.
7. Clifford Cornell on behalf of C & D Realty to construct
a single family dwelling on Mattituck Creek. Cox Neck Road,
Mattituck.
A motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by ALBERT KRUPSKI
to declare a negative declaration.
ALL AYES.
IX. RESOLUTIONS:
1. Formal resolution to schedule public hearings for May.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by JOHN
BREDEMEYER to set the following public hearings for May 24, 1990.
Martin Kosmynka, Constantine P. Georgiopoulos, James
Maloney, Harbor Lights Canal Association, C & D Realty
and if the Board receives a licensed survey on Carl Vail
in time to advertise.
ALL AYES.
X. GRANDFATHER:
1. L & M Hiqgins- Request for a grandfather permit and an
Ice Permit to rebuild the dock in kind/in place on Deep Hole
Creek damaged by the ice. Property on Lupton Pt. Road,
Mattituck. There was no need for a grandfather permit because a
file was found with a pe£mit in it.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by HENRY SMITH
to grant an Ice Permit to rebuild a 35' X 4' fixed elevated dock.
ALL AYES.
XI. MISCELLANEOUS:
1. James M. Murray- Request for an Ice Permit to rebuild
dock in kind/in place on Brushes Creek. Property located on
Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel.
A motion was made by ALBERT KRUPSKI and seconded by JOH~
BREDEMEYER to grant an Ice Permit to rebuild dock.
ALL AYES.
At 9:00 p.m. a motion was made by HENRY SMITH and seconded by
ALBERT Ki{UPSKI to adjourn the meeting.
ALL AYES.
Respectfully submitted,
ill M. Thorp, Clerk